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Tonight's interview with Joel Osteen and his wife Victoria Osteen on "Piers Morgan Tonight" has already gotten attention for the best-selling author and pastor's statements about homosexuality.
But The Osteens tell Piers Morgan about wealth, and whether achieving massive wealth makes them feel guilty. Eric Marrapodi of CNN's Belief Blog post writes:
Morgan asked Osteen if he ever felt guilty for his wealth. He replied, "I don't ever feel guilty because it comes from – it's God's blessings on my life. And for me to apologize for God's – how God has blessed you, it's almost an insult to our God."
Osteen continued, “There is a religious – I call it a spirit or something that says we have to be poor and broke and defeated and sad to show people that we're really humble, and that we really love God. And I don't believe that. I believe God wants us to be examples of what it means to live for him. And that our money is to be a blessing to others.”
Osteen also talks about dating (before he was married), whether he drinks or smokes, who he voted for in 2008 and more. Check out the full interview tonight on CNN at 9pmET/PT.
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I think that as long as the money is made from his work.. his books etc, we do not have a right to critcize him. He blesses so many people with his work for God. I think people undervalue the great work of these pastors, and the blessings they pass on to their congregants, although it cannot be measured in actual dollars, is invaluable.
We pay Donaly Trump for his work, we pay people for the good work that they do, why not pay Joel for a book or tape that he writes? He is a scholar, humanitarian, believer and pastor. I frankly do not think he gets paid enough!
Blessed? Who? Everyone that follows his interpretation of the *Holy Book* is *blessed*. Any one that does not follow him is a *sinner*. This clown is as bad as any left-wing PC apologist.
While Pastor Osteen's ministry continues to make a difference in the lives of many people, it is regrettable when he is asked by Piers why he is so successful in reaching people, that he does not give God the glory or credit for his God-given abilities. A major distinction between Pastor Osteen and Billy Graham is that Pastor Graham consistently spoke of the grace of God and focused all his attention and energy toward the Lord rather than to himself. For a Christian, it is all about the Lord, not us. Exodus 20:3 and Deuteronomy 6:5
Finally Michelle, someone who knows there Bible. I was just reading my Bible this morning and it was saying , "blessed are the rich for they are humbled and will fade away like the morning mist. The apostle Paul did not charge most churches for his preaching and he is the "most" influential writer in the new testament instired by God. The Bible says that we will be held accountable for everything including how we spend or use our wealth. How does he get so wealthy? Does he force his church member to direct deposit 10% or more into the church bank account. Who is paying all the bills and they are still filthy rich. Never ever trust anyone who smiles or laughs and giggles all the time. That is a lifelong, 40 + years learned experience. They are hiding a deep dark secret and are totally opposite than what they lead on to be. Billy Graham is a true Man of God/Jesus Christ that even his son Franklin will never compare. Another phoney. If God has blessed him so much then he should be blesing other's that are in need. "IF" people would read there bible's, and ones that they can understand like the, "new living translation, students study Bible" then they would see and hear what evil is going on and not be blinded by it.
Hi Nina,
I am glad you have changed your point of view about Joel. I remember his being criticized for the price of his tickets on Ebay when in fact that's a secondary market. His tickets are usually around $15. Don't know why the change, but I agree with you.
Not sure why some are so critical of Joel. He is very honest and clearly states that he has not had the formal training that Rev. Graham has had. Joel Osteen is a wonderful motivational speaker who believes in the scripture and I think he gives God credit regularly. Good evening.
Is he a christen? Does he remember what Jesus thought about the wealthy? Well!
Well my friend you may like Joel Osteen however you should consider this, Jesus told his disciples to not take any money from the people they preached to but that He would supply their every need. Furthermore his prosperity gospel is found absolutely no where in scripture. As a matter of fact Jesus warned about the rich not getting into Heaven because of their love of money and wealth. Paul warned about the dangers of being wealthy. A Pastor that never preaches on sin, redemption, or conviction is not a God-Called preacher. Paul outlines how a God called preacher will preach in his lesson to Timothy when he said "preach the word in season and out of season. Reprove, rebuke and exhort with all long suffering and doctrine." There is no rebuke in Joel's preaching, there is no reproof in Joel's preaching, and there is certainly no Biblical Doctrine being preached at his church. He needs to remember that God is not only "Love" but He is also a "wrathful God" a "Jealous God" and a "God that is going to hold each and every person on earth accountable for the way they have lived. Especially Pastors. We as Pastor's will give an account for every word we spoke in and out of the pulpit. We will give an account of how we managed God's money within the church. We will all give an account for every message we ever preached and every lesson we ever taught. All I can say is that I would not want to be Joel on Judgment Day for I am afraid Jesus is going to say to him, "Depart from me you worker of iniquity I never knew you!"
"an insult to our God"...What a user! The guy is using God as a Business!
I think Joel Olsteen deserves to be paid for his efforts. And He referrs to scripture on his opinion whether being gay is a sin. But it also referrs in the Bible that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God! Shouldn't he provide a large part of his wealth (perhaps 90%) to helping the poor, etc. Joel would still have much more money than he needs to live a comfotable life. After all he is in the Bible business, not the real estate business like Donald Trump!
The bottom line is he makes his money off of God. The money is Gods, not his.
The whole idea of the prosperity gospel is a perversion of the word. Jesus commanded his disciples to go in the world with nothing.
Wealth is Mammon, a Chaldee or Syriac word meaning "wealth" or "riches" :
Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
More importantly he spends his wealth on the pleasures of the world. Comfort and luxury.
1John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
AMEN! Thank you!!!!!!
"I have so much wealth, what can I do to keep it? I know, I will tear down my barn and then build a bigger one to store my great wealth." >Wow what a fool that guy is! For his very life will be exacted from him tonight. Then who will get his wealth to keep, and how will it then be worried over? I do know for sure > If your actions are to pile your stack high and turn you neighbor out to die, you are a servant of mammon my dear-lost-error-filled-captive. Anyone baptized by Christ knows just what I'm saying. If not then keep praying. And if your eye is not clear then how dark are you inside? That Osteen needs to find and get through the narrow gate. Wake up people! He is not Christ, don't look about for Christ, being drawn by sensational chatter. Rumor says he's found all over the place, almost everywhere, but when he does come to you there will be now doubt at all > Just life freely given, shaken together, and spilling over into you lap. Then you know.
Praise the Lord for all of you guys who know your Bibles. How can you make comments about Christianity when you don't read God's word. If you don't put on the full armour of God, satan, who walks about like a roaring lyon will tear you apart. This guy is not only dead but doubly dead, pulled up by the roots.
Any one who calls themselves the ark angle is really full of them selves. And you are waaaaay wrong. Paul says the it is definetly our responsibility to judge those in the church. He also says that if they are caught sinning that they are to be made examplples of so others will have the fear of God and what might happen to them. ONce again, a little truth mixed in with some lies is harder to detect than an ourright lie. Use http://www.biblegateway.com to search for "sin" and "judge" from Romans to Jude. It's there. I just scares me to no end that someone would refer to themself as an arkangle or even an angle. Angle's are fellow servants such as us and are not to be worshiped. Look that up too. Just put in Angle. Also, "none of us is righteous, no not one." Just put in righteous. We all deserve to go to hell. None of us are angle's. If we were born on this planet, then we deserve to die and go to hell. Only by the Grace of God can we be saved. Not Joel Ostein.
Well Ms. Nina,
You need to read your Bible dear. I have been a Pastor a lot longer than Joel Osteen and I will tell you this. The Bible never teaches that any Pastor should live in a 12.5 Million Dollar home and be worth 40 Million Dollars. That is far from what the Bible teaches. God is totally against any one having that much money and not using it to help the poor and the needy. Sure he and his wife may give some money to charity but you will never find where God never spoke any thing but bad things about the rich! He constantly teaches that the rich are suppose to share all they have and build treasures in Heaven. Joel will find out one day that he was dead wrong with his prosperity gospel message. We as Pastor's are suppose to preach with conviction and authority on the dangers of sin in their lives and let people know that God is a righteous Judge who will judge all men one day for the way they live on earth. God is a loving God like Joel preaches but he does not tell the whole story. God is also a wrathful God and a jealous God. Joel will surely feel the wrath of God on day for the way he preached his false doctrine and they way he wasted God's money. We are commanded to be good stewards of God's money not spend it on 12.5 million dollar homes, that is blasphemous to say the least.
"The abundance of a man's life does not consist of the things which he possesses"!
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The fact that through the shrewd use of the process he has succeeded in gaining tax free status as a "preacher" I commend as, truly, a work of art in term sof using the system. He certainly is not preaching a religious message. He doesn't refer to the Gospels, Jesus, by name, sin, forgiveness or any of the most basic precepts of the Christian faith. What he does do is provide exactly what what the lost legions of sheep in the world want: a pep talk and being assured that they're "OK". And turn their dollars in at the door they most certainly do. Actually, if it wasn't so sadit might be comical. Life is so short and it is short for this guy as well. Ultimately, he'll answer for his actions as we all will; and he wont be able to grease the palm of St Peter to get into Heaven on a free pass.
At least he's not trying to hide under the guise of religion and false righteousness!
And like Joel the religious ones, at this point in time, have made a very bad choice ;-(
Yet while there is breath one can repent and make the right choice!
The Eternal Family of "Our Father and GOD" -or- a religious system, all of which are grounded in the sands of time?
Choose wisely!
Who is willing to forsake all, and desire that which The Messiah desired above all else?
"Father, not My will, But THY Will Be Done".......
Father Help! and HE does.......
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Well my friend a lot has been said about Joel in the past but all I know for sure is that He is preaching a false "prosperity Gospel" which you will find no where in the Bible and He also will have to give an account for every message He has delivered to the folks at his church one day soon when Jesus returns. The messages he preaches are sometimes relevant but the fact that he does not ever preach on repentance and sin is a bad mistake since that is what we as Pastor's are called to do by Jesus himself. Do not get me wrong when Paul instructed Timothy to "preach the Word in season and out of season. Reprove, rebuke and exhort with all long suffering and doctrine," he meant that we are to preach some "encouraging messages" but also some messages on sin and repentance to let people know how Jesus expects us to live in this world. Without some grace mixed with rebuke in our preaching we are not following the example Jesus left us to follow. On top of that no Pastor is ever suppose to have an enormous amount of money to live on in this world because Jesus clearly told His disciples that when they traveled from place to place to preach that they were suppose to let each house furnish what they needed to live on from day to day. Joel is not alone in his deception however many false preachers are out there today simply preaching for the money and they will all have to give an account to the Chief Shepherd on day soon and then they will find out that those of us who have been trying to get him to change are right after all..
Nina, I agree with you. It is PATHETIC and SHAMEFUL how many people are jealous of this amazing man. Correct, he is not getting paid enough. May he make millions and millions and millions more! Amen
It's not Osteens fault that there are still plenty of stupid americans willing to give his "church" millions of dollars. People will never learn from the Swaggarts or Bakers of the world that these tv "preachers" are simply well-dressed quick talking con-men hiding behind the church and god.
Piers Morgan really has to be the worst interviewer. He lets people drone on about everything like Condolezza Rice talking non-stop about her parents. I miss LKL... great show great host.
He doesn't even take a salary from his church (not that he shouldn't, he does work there). He simply got an amazing book deal because people love him. You can't fault him for that...
Wake up! He is using God as a Business!
Yes I can he uses his position to make wealth for himself.
In one paragraph you managed to insult God, all preachers, Piers Morgan, the Osteens AND the American people. Sadly, you insulted your own intelligence with your opening remarks, painting 'everybody' with the same brush and have therefore robbed your own post of any credibility.
Look at it squarely. Osteen is profiting off people's greed driven hearts, and Peirs is prifiting off people's lust for gossip. Both are servants of a lessor god (the Baals of $ and guile). Get away from them. That's what wisdom would do > Pay them no mind, nor money for that matter. There is to do today and the day is ripe, let's be on with it!
Piers Morgan is the WORSE of the WORSE! I'll leave it at that.
True 'wealth' is a person's character, not the material possessions they have (or don't for many). I'm not christian (or religious) but I can tell you that if I'm wrong, and god really does exist, I'll probably get to heaven before any of these rich Christians who wage war while proclaiming how much they love their fellow brother.
Money is the root of all evil. Everyone would be better off without it in their lives. It gives false valuation to the one thing we know is priceless: life.
andrew – Money is not the root of all evil. "The love of money is the root of all evil." (1 Timothy 6:10). A small but very significant difference.
Money is the root of all evil...because it's a simple fact THAT the more you have of it the more you love'll it & will guard it with your life. There a saying I heard once "Money begets worry" & its true. People would be better off, especially Preachers who believe God will supply all their wants" if they just had enough money to live a reasonable life. I mean you can only eat three meals in a day unless you're a "Gorge,er...you only need one bed to sleep in unless you're 9'0 x 9'0 in height & you only need one house to make your home, as what more space do you want unless your family numbers a football crowd Any more than that...& it's greed. Especialy, when so many in the world are dying from starvation & the elements, even the homeless in your own U.S.OF A.
I am a Christian too but I am very disheartened by how many Christians use the scriptures and their faith for personal gain and to put down other fellow people who don't have the same views or identical beliefs. Jesus showed by example, not by condemning others/ That is what made him and the gospel messages so inspiring. Joel doesn't spend much time on the gospels which is the essence of Christianity. I think he is a good man but he spends too much time on what makes him money! I am totally turned off by most of the political right because they choose which part of the scriptures suits their views and ignore other biblical references. While Joel can certainly inspire people he is an inspirational speaker rather than a pastor. He does not have the credentials of a reverend. But he has used his religious and inpirational messages to make a lot of money. He is a religious entreprener like doctors have become entrepreners in milking the healthcare system. According to scripture, what he does as a person and with his wealth will determine how God will judge him!
oh please, andrew, please understand that every one of us is by our nature so radically sinful and God-hating that we all justly deserve total condemnation. please, please seek to understand the true gospel of Jesus Christ that so mercifully saves pitiful men like us.
Actually the verse in question states: "the love of money is A root of all kinds of evils." Not the only cause of ALL evil, just lots of it
You are correct, "Money is the end, not the means to an end". That's a sin
God does indeed exist, and no you will not get into heaven because you suppose yourself to be better than some falsely-professing "christians". They will hear from Christ, "I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness", so how much less of a chance does someone have who openly rejects Him? Friend, please don't swing out into eternity on "I'll probably get to heaven..." Oh, why will you die? Why will you die? Come to Christ!
Why don't you try making it through life without any money, but with lots of character, and see where that gets you.
There is nothring wrong with money, as long as you have earned it legally. If it becomes your obsession and sole focus, then like any obsession (wealth, religion, dieting, etc.) it is unhealthy.
andrew, the scripture says, "the LOVE of money is the root of all evil."... think on that and you'll see the difference that can make in a person's life.
Andrew you are absolutely right. Please don't base your opinion of Christianity on people like Olsteen. The "gospel of wealth" is bogus, and it dishonors the Gospel of Christ which is what saves. Joel Osteen has just made millions of dollars telling people what they want to hear not what the Bible says. If you want an idea of what a real Christian pastor is like look up Francis Chan, John Piper, or Matt Chandler.
Billy, Thanks that is right!
Thank you Andrew, your right!
The Bible says that it is the love of mon ey that is the root of all evil.
Andrew, your reply is perfect. I can't add anything to something perfectly said.
So your just as ignorant as is he . Good for you
Sounds like you gave money to the Osteen church and are feeling guilty but you want to cover it up! Your mistake!
Interesting comment. Please paint a scenario as to how the world functions without money/currency. Seriously; I'd like to see that vision.
Why do you teach the unteachable and throw pearls to the pigs? Don't you know the darkness sees no light and recognizes none? You were not thrown into the mire and got muddy. You stepped into it voluntarily and got smeared. What is sin? Romans 14:23: ....whatever is not from faith is sin. It is that simple. For those who are faithful knows it and those who are not will not.
Funny how this minister claims to be a Christian yet is ignoring one of Jesus Christ's most basic teachings about following Him. Found in three places in the New Testament, Holy Bible, Jesus says that money/wealth are prohibitive in being a follower of Jesus Christ. Matthew 19, Mark 10 and Luke 18 all state (that it's repeated three times in three different Gospel books hints at its importance) that one should sell their possessions, give to the poor THEN follow Jesus...that giving away what keeps a person from following Jesus in heart is true happiness. Being poor, i.e., sad, and defeated, is NOT part of Christianity but wealth is a bigger problem. Either one chooses Jesus or chooses wealth, cannot choose both. And, obeying Jesus brings great joy therefore poverty is not a burden.
Gretchen, I assume you are a poor girl , so just read your bible , Jesus said you work for money, Joel sells books , no one has to buy them....
AMEN!!
Matthew 19:24:
I'll say it again–it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!"
why do we in South Africa have to watch George Clooney again this evening? we have seen this programme already. this is nonsense!
It's strange...
i'm in Europe and every second night in Pierce Morgan Tonight, there is a old one! For example today, there should be Olseen but instead there is George Clooney!!! Is that normal?
Yes gunnar you are right!
A few observations: a. Andrew your statements about not believing in God are nullified once you used the scripture, "money is the root of evil." You can't use that verse that is spoken by the mouth of God if you don't belive in God. That's a contradiction.
b. gretchen, the whole premise of the Bible and the life of following Jesus is to first love God with all of your heart and to love others as yourself. WIthin that, as believers, we are called to worship God and obey Him with whatever we are asked to do. The Bible is full of worship, sacrifice and obedience. Other than the Lordship of Christ and the infallibility of scripture which are non-negotiables, Once we get legalistic and start following principles as oppossed to the Person, than we have lost the truth of the Gospel. If God asks us to be poor, than we better be poor and give Him all the glory. If He asks us to have wealth and have influence in that area, than we better do that too and give him the glory. The Truth is this. I belive in Christ crucified for my sins and I am saved once i reiceive that and in His resurrection. Jesus loves us so much, we have the honor to serve Him in all capacities at all times. We are to edify our brothers and sisters and love God first and love the people around us like Jesus would. The two most important commandments from Jesus.
Piers , how much money do you make for this show? Have you ever read any of the bible? Joel is not judgeing , he should have taken Larry King 's place instead of you.
Matthew 19:24
On the issue of money and riches..
Jesus Christ looks at what’s in our hearts.
He discerns our deepest thoughts, and the pre-thoughts of our pre-thoughts of our pre-thoughts of our pre-thoughts of our pre-thoughts and so on and on and on.. So far ahead, that for us it would be totally inconceivable to possibly even grasp, or imagine, much less conceive how far ahead. Again, on the issue of money and riches, Jesus Christ looks at what is in our hearts. “And for that, and many, many other very good reasons, it is always highly recommended to be totally honest with Him at all times.. As we will all face Him someday, as in likely very soon.
Lets see, Jesus lived in a Multi Million Mansion, Private jets, expensive cars, culinary chefs, hundreds of shoes, clothing, diamonds and other luxurious living conditions. While his followers begged the streets! I rather be an Atheists, than profess any false prophets to steal from the poor. But, I will live the Life as Jesus wanted us to live. And, not give to false prophets...for they talk from the demon himself.
Jesus did not live in luxury, far from it, please don't display your ignorance...
for the love of God, Mike,,,that was sarcasm
Sad to see those icons of the trailer-trash set – The Kardashians and Howard Stern – given so much primetime...YAWN...at least you've exposed the anti-gay Joel Osteen for the fraud that he is.....Jesus did NOT exclude people but embraced all...obviously Gays don't have enough bucks for the redneck Osteen which is the only way you get status in his "Church."
Piers Morgan needs to redeem his worth as a journalist and interviewer by allowing somone on his show that is intelligent and educated and not a bigot as this self proclaimed minister boasts. Piers is a huge disappointment to me as a avid follower of CNN. This mnister insulted not only the gay community but their families and their friends. How dare he pass judgement on people. He is not God. There is only one judger in this world and I don't think I have seen this minister walk on water. Piers you need to allow someone to defend this man's insults, someone like Ellen, Rose, Neil Patrick Harris, Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, any of these amazing people who are not bigots and would never insult anyone like this minister did. You really lost me as a viewer Piers Morgan, I will not watch your show again unless you allow someone to speak on behalf of all the wonderful loving and genuine people in the world who live good lives and are do not deserve this rubbish this minister said on your show
Besides, if he calls gays sinners because it is on the scriptures, then he is a bigger sinner for not following what Jesus said on Matthew 19:21: "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
Well, he is not doing that, so he is a bigger sinner!! Besides, gay people are God's creation, not life choice. God does not make mistakes, so gays are not sinners for being born this way.
The gospel of Jesus is not a prosperity gospel nor is it an adversity/poverty gospel...it is a gospel for all people in every walk of life, the rich and the poor and everyone in between. You don't have to be poor to be a follower of Christ and you you're not excluded if you're rich. Gretchen, in the scripture references you quoted, Jesus is challenging the rich man to give everything away because he valued his wealth above God and people. The man loved money more than God! Salvation isn't dependent on giving away every possession, or paying for your seat in church...but on Jesus' sacrifice on the cross and trusting in that. Once we receive salvation, following Him for some may mean giving everything away, but that may not be the case for others. For example, If God blessed someone with great wealth and that person is a good steward of that wealth (blessing the poor, giving generously, etc) it will honor and glorify god greatly. Bottom line, we are not the judge regarding matters of the heart, God is.
Joel Osteen says he doesn't judge, but that is exactly what he was doing on Piers Morgan's show by calling gays sinners – judging.
He talks about sins handed down in the Old Testament by people who were God-inspired, not God, as Christians believe Christ is.
If you're a Christian, you believe in the teachings of a seen and heard God, a God who walked amongst us. Anything Christ says supersedes anything written in the Old Testament by prophets, not by God. And Christ spoke to us about Two Commandments: "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it,
Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."
Just these two. So what Christ said was that we shall love God, self, and neighbor all the same (like unto it). Leave the judging entirely up to a God that most people really do not understand.
I believe we are on this planet to face a most difficult challenge: To love everyone the same, unconditionally. And there are obstacles aplenty in the way, as Christ says there should be.
Why then hasn't the Bible been redacted to omit these obvious screw-ups that God made earlier in His career? Heaven knows it's already been altered hundreds of times over the centuries (since God wasn't really sure of what He really meant when he spoke to Adam and Noah and Moses and those other guys, we had all kinds of religious leaders fix it up for Him).
Also, didn't Christ refute Old Testament passages (Ex. 21:23, 24; Lev. 24:19, 20; and Deut. 19:21) when He said in Matthew 5:38: "You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth." That's when He told us to turn the other cheek instead. I'll take Christ's word over yours.
All religions are fairytales and boy, are these two in a fairy tale. Victoria, what happens when everything is taken away from you...your husband, children, home, church...who are you then???
I saw Oprah interview the physician in Connecticut whose wife and two daughters were murdered in their own home and the home was burned. He said he wondered what that leaves him to be, having lost everything. He is no longer a spouse; he is no longer a father and he has lost his home. It was very sad. Victoria would probably feel similar if she lost everything. Are there those who would not? What does that have to do with money? And your point is what?
Joel Osteen Net Worth around $40 Million in 2008 makes it very easy to preach to others that financial wealth is not that necessary. Joel Osteen is the Fortune cookie and should pay taxes on his millions. Lakewood Church’s income is greater than some states and should also quality for paying taxes.
Wow, two totally different posts. Perhaps you should research some of the good work he does i.e. Haiti. Don't be so quick to criticize. Why is everyone so jealous of people with money. If people spent has much time managing their finances and learning something about managing their affairs and connecting with their family instead of continually throwing stones at those different than they, there would certainly be far less negative comments posted on sites such as this.
Point being he could do a lot more good work than he is doing if he weren't so greedy.
Here is the question. Does he help people with his money?
they don't know... it must be millions! right.
Piers is a poor interviewer. His questions sound more like comments.
Joel, if you are not interested in being financially wealthy, then give your $40 plus millions to the American people who are struggling. Put your money where your mouth is!!!
Well, Victoria... if you do not want to be financially rich, give your money away!!!!! I dare you!!! Talk is Cheap!
God has BLESSED them and no one should be Jealous of it, If you have a Pure Heart God will BESS you too.
She's addicted and lives to trash others every night. Getting a life is not an option apparently.
Right On! Come on Joel.. Step up to the plate and give that money away in the name of Jesus. You can still preach even if you're driving a Hyundai and living in a 3 bedroom rambler in the suburbs. Show your stuff Joel.. Show us how you're teaching your kids to be good Christians.
I was ready to say goodbye to Larry, so I've been watching Piers a little and giving him a chance and I have to say, it would be helpful if he was just a little bit likeable – is he channelling Simon Cowell? I guess he thinks he has to do the 'edgy' schtick. He's no Anderson Cooper, John King, Wolf Blitzer, or Charlie Rose (you know, on the trusted network), so the least he could be is likeable. The thing is, THEY are all likeable. I'm a brit, so I get where he comes from, but after this time, I'm tuning out.
LOL Donna
Had better talk fast with Piers or you will be cut off at the pass....
What a bunch of ! Does he need all that money?
I cannot listen to this preacher! He is far too happy and fake! I can see right through him.
The epitome of evil is having spiritual leaders condone hate, in the name of God, against others such as our gay brothers and sisters."
I think that Piers has guilt issues with his own wealth and he projects that guilt on his ceaseless harassment of his guests. Get over it already.
I must have missed it; I did not see him do that with Oprah.
Piers,
Ever heard of David Lloyd George, Cardinal Wolsey, and I could mention countless others. They rose up from pretty humble backgrounds. Wish you'd stop implying this sort of thing can never happen in England because of a class system.
I think that Joel is a terrible example of a Christian preacher. Why didn't he mention Jesus ? He is a worldly preacher afraid to offend anyone,by listening to him you would not know what he believes in. I know he talks about God a lot but where is Jesus in this interview,this was one of the best chances he had to try to share the gospel. Being a wealthy man is not the point,he is a blessed man,but again where why didn't he give Christ any air time.
Nancy, I was thinking the same as you this is your time to Glorify or Lord and Savior. from whom all our Blessing come from.
Piers, you're interview with the Olsteens sucked! YOU SUCK!!!!!! You and everyone else that interviews him is so jealous and have to scrutinize his money. He has worked hard and helped so many WIlLING followers! God Bless Him for putting up with you.
I toally agree!!
Nice spelling! Did you give all your money to Osteen, so you couldn't afford an education!
A comet is coming do you want to join
I love Joel...his words have helped me through some very hard times and continue to pick me up when I am falling back into that place. I do not appreciate Piers Morgan's interviewing style and am just disappointed to see Joel and his wife having to defend themselves constantly. He deserves every penny that he earns...you try standing in front of all of those people every week and deliver a flawless ministry...which is extremely moving. I don't know he does it!
Glad he has helped you, BUT he uses God as a Business! That is BS!
PLEASE, PLEASE STOP INTERRUPTING YOUR GUESTS!
You are terrific and I think you are great. However, I've watched every show so far and I see this repeated time and time again. You do not let your guests finish their sentences. For heaven's sake, SLOW DOWN A TOUCH AND STOP INTERRUPTING THEM!!!
Please!
With every best wish for you and your show.
Maggie
AAAAAAAAMEN TO YOUR POST ABOUT PIERS NEEDING TO SLOOOOOW DOWN !!!!!!!!!! I HAVE WATCHED EVERY EPISODE SINCE THE FIRST TIME HE AIRED !!!! but i've got to say....i'm getting pretty fed up with his constant interruptions on his guest > i'm trying to give him the benefit of the dought thinking maybe he does that soooo much cause he has so much questions in a one hour time frame or does he do that trying to get at the shock factor for "RATINGS" ???? IT REALLY SEEMS THAT HE WANTS TO BE CONFRONTATIONAL ON EVERY LEVEL and it's really starting to annoy the crap out of me !!! his constant interrupting is sooo aggravating . it's like if they dont have the same opinion as he does or is not giving him the juicy story that he is soooo wanting for his ratings he's NOT happy so he'll constantly barge in on his guest answers and that's where it gives room for others to misunderstand what someone is trying to say if they're not able to finish the point they're trying to make or in this case.......if they're not able to finish the question period which many of the times was the case !! I mean really......LET THE PEOPLE TALK PIERS !!!!! IF YOUR AS GOOD OF AN INTERVIEWER AS YOU THINK YOU ARE .......then you should understand INTERVIEWS should be AT LEAST "50% questions / 50% answers" instead of this ongoing "90% piers questions and 10% quest answers !!!!!! Because why have a show at all if all we hear is YOU piers ?????? isn't that the whole point of having a talk show is to hear what the quest have to say to your questions ??? we don't JUST want to hear YOUR questions and/or comments........BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE PUBLIC WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO HEAR THE QUEST ANSWERS TOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Piers. Allow your guests time to give complete answers otherwise your constant interruptions end up with you talking for 60% of the interview
Mr piers,
This "pastor" does not represent the Christian faith honestly speaking. Joel osteen is an apostate. Please interview pastors like John mcarhur, rc sproul, alister begg etc
As far as the gays, shame on Joel-"He who is without sin cast the first stone." God does not judge gays!!!! It is not an addiction that you are gay!!!!
he did NOT say that STUPID! 1st learn how to listen. he just said that the bible sais it's a sin BUT that doesn't mean gay people are bad,Just because he believes what the bible sais doesn't mean that he's a bad person. There's milions(yes i said milions!) of people out there who feel exactly the same about gay !
joel is living his life for god to bless others and God is blessing him!! because thats what god does, blesses those who bless others. Piers is being very rude with the questions he is asking and how he is asking them, and he is criticizing him for being a good person, Joel said he is not the judge, god is the judge, he is not here to judge others and if you listen to his sermons that is not what he does....I pray for people like piers who clearly dont understand God's power and his blessings......I wish Joel wouldnt have done the interview, cuz ppl are just looking for a reason to criticize him, but he is a blessing to others, and wil continue to be....
AMEN ! you said it Linda! give and it will be given to you!! he deserves soooooo much because he canged the lives of soooo many people in the world! I love you Joel,you are the best,the absolute best! The greatest on this PLANET ! God bless you!
I see his wife wanted to get off the subject of money...when she got her chance to talk. Piers being a Catholic should have pulled him up when he said God gave the us the commandments "Love God & Love your brother" actually it was Jesus the son of God who gave those commandmants to his deciples. And also the wording was in mine & Piers Catholic religion "Love God & love thy neighbour as thyself". Another thing Jesus preached is that "It is harder for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God; that it is for a caml to pass through the eye of an needle". So I suggest that Preacher rethinks his religion & preaching & re-reads the "Bible"!
As, regards Piers...this jury of (One) is still undecided.
its a money laundering business and tax free too.
Piers, I liked your show until tonight. Bashing the beliefs of others is WRONG! I as well as a lot of others will not watch your show again.
I think Mr Morgan was pushing Joel and his wife and I was enjoying myself watching J.O STAND his ground.... Evil will allows try to bring down a God filled person... but Evil will continue with their sinful ways and suffer in the end while the Godly people will enjoy eternity............
I am watching the interview with the Osteen's and am upset that Piers let the comment Mr. Osteen made about the young man in Arizona responsible for the shootings. Mr. Osteen said that he believed that young man was not "well raised". Come on Piers......am disappointed that you did not take that answer to how the Rev feels about mental illness. What does the Rev believe about mental illness. An important issue you stepped aside from.
Agreed. Piers missed that. Suffering from a mental illness has nothing to do with how a child is raised. Parents cannot be held responsible for a child with a mental illness unless there is undisputed proof that the parents were negligent in treating it. But Piers stumped him on several other issues.
I see his wife wanted to get off the subject of money...when she got her chance to talk. Piers being a Catholic should have pulled him up when he said God gave the us the commandments "Love God & Love your brother" actually it was Jesus the son of God who gave those commandments to his deciples. And also the wording was in mine & Piers Catholic religion "Love God & love thy neighbour as thyself". Another thing Jesus preached is that "It is harder for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God; that it is for a camel to pass through the eye of an needle". So I suggest that Preacher rethinks his religion & preaching, & re-reads the "Bible"!
As, regards Piers...this jury of (One) is still undecided.
Piers, Thank you for allowing Joel Osteen on your program. I will continue to watch if you have guests like this.
Gail
JO with his plastic smile is full of crap. I cannot get over how me manages to smile and talk for that long. He doesn't really know what he's worth? Really? Come on. I don't buy the "my only income is from my books and DVDs...." line. Even if it is, he uses his ministry as a platform to promote himself and therefore his books. And do we think really that he doesn't use the millions his ministry rakes in to fund some of their expenses? And Victoria, what value does she really add to the interview? She bought into the JO coolade 24 years ago and stil stares at him like he's the greatest thing since slided bread. And oh, yes, her role is to get him out of a corner when Piers stumps him. She says she's frugal? That's got to be a $1,000 dress she's wearing. I bet we find a few skeletons in his closet before soon !
lol–i agree
well said!
Well said...& may I add starved skeletons at that.
PS. I can't believe people go to be preached by him...& do it every weekly. What may I ask is in their food?
ISNT IT INTERESTING THAT THE ONLY POSTER ON THEIR DAUGHTER'S WALL(stated Mrs.) IS OF TAYLOR SWIFT - THE ONLY OPENLY LESBIAN SUCCESSFUL "COUNTRY WESTERN" SINGER/SUPERSTAR?
James Reid
It is Cheryl Wright not Taylor Swift and who came out and got persecuted for being true to herself. She even felt guity for hurting Brad Paisley and realized she needed to be true to herself. The only choice you have when you are gay is to be proud or stay in the closet and lie.
Also I am very disppointed with Olsteen–Being Gay is not an addiction or anything like it. One last thing: nothing is said about LESBIANS in the bible. Are we sinners?
All of those responsible giving Piers Morgan a platform should be fired. This is one of the worst interviews I have ever seen. Actually I had to stop watching it was so painful. Piers is an absolute self-smug doofus. His questions seem off the cuff and have zero relevant flow. "So, Joel your a rock star aren't you?" Uh, yeah. Is that a question or are you just being a condescending turd?
I love your view Kenny, i also found it painful to watch Piece Morgen s interview with Pastor Joel and his wife also. My name is Nana and my comment is a few clicks below yours, if you would like to see it. Well done
don't forget – Piers is European, you are America, The same way they've hated Simon Cowell just because he was different!
I think Piers is doing quite well, getting better, I'll just try to forget his first sheepish interview with Oprah...
People getting rich by selling god is an insult to god!
I think Morgan is a poor interviewer. He interupts constantly and you cannot really get a true answer from his guest! I am so frustrated by this segment, I don't think I will watch Morgan's show again. Slow down, wait for your guest to respond. What a mess! Pastor Joel, I apologize. WOW
Piers, we love your show so far. If you really want to hear the answers to your very inciteful questions about Christianity and the love and grace of God, you need to have Franklin Graham on your show. Franklin, unlike Osteen, will address your questions directly based on a biblical world view and not avoid them with glossed-over generalities that mean nothing.
Pierce Morgan I find you very anoying, this pastor and his wife did not steal from anybody, they worked really hard for their money. Also, try to accept peoples answer when they give it and learn to be a bit civil like Larry King used to be. It seams to me like you attack people when you interview them and it is very hard to watch you.
God is the creator of heaven and earth. The earth is the Lords and the fullness thereof. His word says that when you accept Jesus as Lord and savior that we are joint heirs with Jesus. Jesus is not poor. He is prosperous in every sense of the word. If your parents are rich, then you are rich. its your inheritance. As a child of God I am rich. Joel is blessed because he is doing what God has called him to do. he has taken the talents that God gave him and used them to gain wealth. why is so difficult to accept a christian minister to be rich. Actors and actresses are rich and even Piers is rich because they put their God given talent to use. Noone is questioning their wealth. or even a athlete getting paid millions to hit a ball or dunk a ball. that's acceptable but if a man or woman of God lives prospersously, then its questioned.
God doesn't need to be rich because he doesn't need to buy anything...& I don't know what Bible you read...unless you have written your own wersion. So read the TRUE one.
As for Piers, give him a chance guys, he's only in the job two weeks & already you want him to be a Larry King. That miracle is impossible...except if your God.
PS. No use thinking that Preacher is good enough to perform same such feat, is there?
I greatly appreciate the willingness to put someone professing to be a Christian on national television, but, Piers...next time would it be possible to get someone with sound theology who exhibits an understanding of the scriptures and has an ability to clearly communicate the gospel and not simply one's thoughts? Do let me know if you need suggestions...I have a few.
Please, Please get this guy off CNN ! Morgan needs to leave! He is a bad interviewer, keeps interrupting, and interjecting HIS own opinions. He makes his guests feel very uncomfortable and attacks them in a very unprofessional manner. Very rude!! Please please get this guy off CNN. He just brings the standard of CNN down.
Kudos Piers Morgan!. First time watcher and I think you are great. You press this weasel con-job Osteen duo and they slither out with this excuse and that excuse. They sucker the ignorant by making them feel real good while they pick their pocket. Although not religious, I wonder what Tertullian, Origen, Diodore, Ignatius, Nestorius, Pelagius, Augustine (of Hippo), Luther, Zwingli, Calvin, just to mention a few, would think. Not to mention Jesus Christ, given that he really existed. One would think Christianity has gone all non-Apocryphal.....
AND Now she says - something akin to - regarding what she thinks of Lady Gaga, she likes/prefers/admires (?) MADONNA! Of ALL PEOPLE!
The blatant hypocracy is simply glorious - heavenly.
Prof. James Reid NYCCT (CUNY)
I have tried, Lord, how I've tried, but...Piers Morgan is rude. He asks a 'guest' (I use this term loosely since I would not treat a guest like he does) a question, then walks/talks over whatever the guest might try to respond. Rude. Sorry, CNN, can't watch any more.
I'm sure he pays taxes on all that money and doesn't hide any of it using the religous exemption from taxes.
Yeah right!!!
I feel sorry for anybody that cant see through the fake used car salesman smile of Joel Osteen. P.T. Barnum once said "There is a sucker born every minute", and I'm afraid that is you. Of course you dont believe that, but the suckers never understand that they are the suckers. It's part of being the sucker. Joel Osteen is nothing more than Jim Baker and Tammy Faye / Jim Swaggart / et. al, repackaged in a better suit. Of course you dont see that and you donate to his mega church and buy his books. It's because you are a sucker.
I could never stomach CNN for more than 10 mins in the past. I must say, Piers has brought a fresh, non partisan perspective on american pop culture. This network does nothing but promote negative media and divide people based on political disposition. I am canadian, and being conservative, liberal or otherwise does not define our beliefs before hearing both sides of the issue. I think (but not sure), that Piers is on the same page. Good on CNN for hiring someone with an open mind, and no apparent alligence to political tunnel vision.
I could never stomach CNN for more than 10 mins in the past. I must say, Piers has brought a fresh, non partisan perspective on american pop culture. This network does nothing but promote negative media and divide people based on political disposition. I am canadian, and being conservative, liberal or otherwise does not define our beliefs before hearing both sides of the issue. I think (but not sure), that Piers is on the same page. Good on CNN for hiring someone with an open mind, and no apparent alligence to political tunnel vision.
P.S.: Osteen is either a robot or will spontaneously combust one day...reminds me of Ned Flanders. Remember when he snapped??
I agree with everything you said except the last line. I think Piers' interview with Joel was great and I very much admire Joel Osteen. Piers simply pushed back on him where others would not. I particularly agree that in the past the objective seemed to encourage people to be divided on political issues and some seemed to live for getting their words posted.
I think what Piers will need to focus on is making sure all of his interviews are equally provocative or equally not so provocative. For example, the interview with Oprah and Clooney was no where near the same type of interview as this interview with Joel. Having said that, I find Piers quite refreshing.
As for your last line, I think Joel is the real deal; some may simply not like him and that is their choice.
I believe I will indulge myself with a 1922 Cabernet Pepe La Pue while you American peasants dry out in the hot winds of my exhaustive breath. Also, Joel Osteen is more than likely gay, not that there's anything wrong with that.
Joel Osteen is inspired many people around the world. Piers morgan show. Piers was asking question about gays. Joel replied he stick in to the scripture four times. Piers Morgan asked that question four times over and over. That is not good creating more problems unnecessary. Piers has no idea about christianity. may be he is not believing God.
DK FL
LAVENDER ALERT!!! LAVENDER ALERT!!! LAVENDER ALERT!!!
THIS PROGRAM MAY CAUSE SUICIDES IN GAY YOUTH.
Osteen is smart enough to know how stupid people are....no business pays like "God"...the invisible (and ultimate) product.
I think you got it right pal. He knows how to turn a buck.. No wonder he's so happy.
God is a mystery...preachers are "Capitalists"!
LAVENDER ALERT.
THIS PROGRAM MAY CAUSE SUICIDE IN GAY YOUTH.
I WANT CNN TO BE MORE RESPONSIBLE. THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED UP WITH AN INTERVIEW WITH THE FOUNDER OF THE TREVOR PROJECT. IVE MADE MY CALLS. IVE SPOKEN HOW DISGUSTED I AM WITH JOEL AND WITH CNN AND HOPE TO GOD A GAY YOUTH IS NOT REPORTED AS HAVING COMMITTED SUICIDE AFTER THIS SHOW AIRS. THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS.
II like Joel because he is inspiring, however as a religious person, I was raised to believe that we are all children of God and gays are not excluded. As children of God because of Adam and Eve's sins, none of us are perfect, therefore been gay should not be considered to be a sin, therefore I disagree with his bible.
Also, as a religious person, I do not believe in the death penalty because only God has the right to take our lives.
Piers Morgan is a JERK! He's not one of us - he's not an American and we don't appreciate his arrogant/pompous "ambush interview" approach to embarrass and humiliate Americans whom we love, respect and admire. Who hired this JERK anyway? Is he really supposed to take the place of Larry King? He probably thinks it's cool to ambush someone in an interview, but he'll only get away with that for a very short time. When other famous people see how he treats his guests, no one will want to appear on this show. I hate him! I especially hate the way he was so rude to Joel Osteen, who does nothing but good in this world and was too polite and gracious to tell Morgan where to go. I'd like to see Morgan with someone like Alec Baldwin on the show and see how far he'd get being so rude. He does not belong on this show. I hate this British invasion of all these British actors taking over American movies and TV shows and putting American actors out of work. Can you imagine Larry King going on a nationally televised talk show in England interviewing the Archbishop of Canterbury and skewering him? He would never do that, out of respect for another country and for someone highly respected by the English people. I hate Piers Morgan! Get him off this show! He does not belong on an American talk show - send him back to England!
Piers is not supposed just to sit there & let them give the answes they're comfortable with...his job is to irk them like a "Interrogator" so as to see if they are really as nice as they're made out to be.
& that's as regards each of his guests.
Dude,
I'm a conservative but someone's got to stop these rip-off artists like Osteen from stealing all of our poor stupid peoples money. I think it was fair that he tried to expose this guy for what he is. In fact, I don't think he went hard enough after hime considering what this guy is doing. These are sick people that would exploit people the way they do, even more scarey if they start having influence in our society. I can't see where Osteen has anything to do with religion or God. He's a businessman who's found a way to make money. He would be better off to call himself a motivational speaker and remove God and Judgement from the equation and just be honest about it. He could be like Tony Robbins or something but to abuse religion the way he is just doesn't make sense.
James, Oh do tell,
Where is this info on Taylor being openly gay. And you criticize someone else!
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Piers, you kept me interested and wanting more. I loved how you kept digging. A few times that goofy smile seemed to fade on Osteen's face – something I never thought could happen. Great interview.
He just embraces the "never give a sucker an even break" philosophy, 'god' is his bait, and there are oh so many suckers out there willing to give him money! So be it.
I think Piers cuts people off because he wants to be sure he can get to all of his questions. Maybe he should consider asking them before the taping to keep their answers brief because he has a lot he wants to cover with them.
"I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God
He's no different than any of the other rich people in this world, who feed on the ignorant. That's how people get that rich, they all feed on people who don't know any better. So I hope you're right about God wanting you to have all your wealth. Because someday my friend you are going to find out how God really feels about it. Something to think about old boy.
Piers I really enjoyed your show with Joel Osteen, however you asked him some really important questions that he had no answers for. I know and understand the answers to all of the questions that he could not answer. I'm a new writer of spiritual metaphysical understanding. God has allowed me to solve the mysteries in the scriptures that were written in allegories in hopes that no one would figure out the hidden messages for each of us to live by that would make all of us better human beings. You can check out my web site http://www.katakiospath.net and read the synopsis of my two books that I have written with the answers to the questions that Joel could not answer. Also tell me where to send you a copy of my books and I will send them to you. Thank You !
Pierc Morgan is too interaptive, mostly interested in HIS opinion, rather in his guest opinion. He stays on the same "topic"- like money too long- feels like he is bashing the guest.
What did jesus say? Jesus was a liberal remember rich man needle? What a bunch of hypocrits. Go to hell.
Piers, I forgot to put the name of my two books on my comment. Spirituality and Our world Crisis and Revelations New Beginnings. These two books have the answers to the questions that Joel could not answer. These two books are connected and the revelations in them not only is for the healing of each of us at the soul level, but it is a healing of our world. They explain the life process that very few people know and understand. God has shown me all of the clues to solve the hidden mysteries in the scriptures that were deliberately hidden from the masses that would make each of us better human beings. Read the synopsis of my books on my web site. http://www.katakiospath.net and let me know where to send the books and I'll send you a copy so that you will understand the why's and how the principles back of all life works. Thank You Pat Katakio
Piers, I forgot to put the name of my two books on my comment. Spirituality and Our world Crisis and Revelations New Beginnings.
I think Joel and Victoria did very good. Go pastors! Thank you for being great examples. We proud to call you our pastors!
and why i'd never, never be a christian..... it's a religion by humans for humans and you can do about anything - kill, rob, burn and scorch the earth and animals, in the name of religion. and if you don't believe that these two con artists are perfect examples of greed by religion.
Never really cared for u Piers... But, dude u won me over puttin them phonies on the spot dude...
The word says your gifts open doors for you and a man is worth his hire. This man stands firm for nothing. He knows what the word says but he. Compromises he don't want ti bash nobody. Well god gonna bash him for not abiding in that word. I was ashamed of him just listening to him.
I was recently in Europe viewing the great cathedrals where popes and potentates, such as Joel Osteen appears to be, once walked and spoke, yet the most moving experience I had was in a rock-hewn chapel on a hillside in Assisi where San Francesco (St. Francis) once secluded himself and a few friends to pray, meditate and sit in silent contemplation. It is important to remember that Jesus changed the world with 12 disciples and that theChristian scripture states, "where two or three are gathered.": We may be impressed by largess, but God appears to be content with small and faithful. That is worth contemplating.
Piers,
Congratulations on your new show. I must respectfully ask you to please stop interrupting your guests, and let them finish answering your questions after you ask them. Sloooowww down!
I know he's new but piers just doesn't seem comfortable. Osteen is a very honest, humble indivudual. Piers kept trying to egg him on, calling him a rock star.. squeeky clean.. digging for nonexistant " juicy" details... not a good interview at all.
he and his wife would be the temple's greedy moneychangers jesus abhored. go to hell you pigs.
How can a preacher forget all about Matthew 19:23-24, mark 10:24-25, and Luke 18:24-25. “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” Unless Joel Osteen repents, and gives up his wealth, I think it is very clear that according to the words of Jesus Christ, he will be refused entry into Heaven.
EVERYONE IS MORE INVOLVED IN BRINGING DOWN ANYONE WHO IS A CHRISTIAN THESE DAYS; PEOPLE SHOULD BE MORE INVOLVED IN BRINGING DOWN POLITICIANS WHO LIE AND CHEAT AND STEAL. THEY SHOULD NOT WORRY SO MUCH ABOUT POINTING ANGRY FINGERS IN INTERVIEWS TOWARDS SOMEONE WHO IS ONLY "READING AND SPEAKING THE BIBLE...SCRIPTURES..."...A PREACHER WHO PREACHES GOD'S WORD DOES NOT MEAN THAT HE HATES THE SINNER OR THE PERSON COMMITTING THE SIN...IF HE IS A TRUE CHRISTIAN HE WILL NOT SHUT HIS MOUTH ABOUT GOD'S SCRIPTURES...BUT HE WILL ALSO BE LIKE JESUS AND LOVE...NOT JUDGE...ONLY SPEAK WHAT GOD'S WORD SAYS. I LOVE MANY MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE GAY...I KNOW GOD DOES NOT APROOVE OF IT IN SCRIPTURE..BUT I LOVE THEM AND IT IS NOT FOR ME TO JUDGE THEM...NOR FOR THEM TO TAKE MARRIAGE FROM THE BIBLE IF THEY ARE NOT LIVING THE REST OF IT. MARRIAGE CEREMONIES ARE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE FAITH IN GOD...NOW..ARE THERE GAY MARRIAGES IN BUDHISTS, OR ISLAMIC OR ORTHODOX JEWISH RELIGIONS? DO HINDU'S HAVE GAY MARRIAGE IN THEIR FAITH? WHY BEAT UP THE CHRISTIANS FOR THEIR FAITH AND THEIR 5000 YEAR OLD SCRIPTURES? ALSO...IF IT IS OKAY FOR SOMEONE TO SAY THEY BELIEVE IN REINCARNATION OR TO WORSHIP SATAN...WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD ANYONE BE OFFENDED OR UPSET AT SOMEONE BELIEVING IN JESUS CHRIST OR IN GOD? PEOPLE FEAR GOD BECAUSE THEY REALLY BELIEVE IN HIM. THEY BEAT UP ON CHRISTIANS AND TAKE THEIR RIGHTS AWAY AND BASH THEM BUT NO ONE ELSE IN ANY OTHER RELIGION...WHY?
It is ALL about money with them!!!
You want spirituality....????
NOT here...and NOT for what you pay for.
people need ceremonies to get legally married..
lol
And most Politicians are Religious interesting connection!
The Bible actually talks about this Christian bashing. Jesus said, ""If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first." John 15:18 It seems that He was preparing us to be persecuted. It will get worse before it gets better and Christians need to be strong, hold on tight to our faith and not be swayed or turned away from the will of God. Remember it is the adversary's objective to turn Christians away from God. Don't be fooled and fall victim to the schemes. It's a good thing that we all know who wins in the end. Praise be to God!!
I have enjoyed your show the brief time it’s been on. Tonight I had to exit early. Joel Osteen seems to be an example of the sign of our times. It’s a sad state of our union when so many people will pay so much money to a smiling preacher to interpret reality for them in a way to give them hope. I’d be smiling just like Joel if I were able to use religion to extract so much money from so many people. I just don’t think I could get myself to do it. Please give us more interesting guests. I really did enjoy watching Oprah and I’m a conservative myself.
Really...when you call his ministry to get counsel you are told to purchase his book or dvd's? The article on courthouse news service Lakewood church-regarding the lawsuits talks about what happens during counseling there at his church. i guess that's why he rather you buy his book. Wasn't that sin?
Osteen is a slimeball, one in a long list of charlatans who feed their greed for power, popularity and money by exploiting fear. Their justification is always that they're doing God's work, as if they have, or want, a clue about what that is. The Hell that they use to augment others' fear and their own coffers awaits their arrival – and it can't be too soon.
AMEN!
This was my first time watching this show and I will never watch it again. This was clear Christian-bashing. Joel does not get to change what the Bible states. As Christians, we follow the Bible and use it as a guidebook for living. A person chooses whether or not to be a Christian and if you make the choice to be one – there are some guidelines that we are to follow. I am so tired of people bashing Christians for standing on God's word. I hope that true Christians stay faithful to God's word and not be moved by all of the bashing. Here are only a few of the many Bible verses on prosperity. Not only does God want us to be blessed in every manner, He can and will do exceedingly and abundantly more than we can even think or imagine.
John 10:10 – The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
John 6:38 – Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”
Philippian 4:19 – And my God will meet all your needs according to the riches of his glory in Christ Jesus.
Colossians 1:12 – ...and giving joyful thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of his holy people in the kingdom of light.
John 16:23 – In that day you will no longer ask me anything. Very truly I tell you, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.
Hahaha. Osteen is a joke. They are so fake..
if you're a devout christian, you're not smart.
Really? That's not what my peers, colleagues, graduate degrees, GPAs, students that I teach (yes, I am a college professor), etc. tells me. And it's not what God thinks about me. Did I mention that I was labeled intellectually gifted as a child and was always at the top of my class? Not that this makes me better than anyone – I usually don't discuss my academic gifts or intelligence but since you just insulted me, I thought it should be brought up. Thank goodness your opinion of me is irrelevant. I understand that many people lack faith but don't insult me because I have faith in God and am a devout Christian. All I want in life is to please God and to serve His purpose for my life. And I thank Him for the many blessings and abundance that He has given me. Praise be to God!!!
Joel Osteen is gayer than rainbows. Is no one else's gaydar going beep beep beep?
I look at someone like Rich Mullins and think there is a man who knew Jesus. He similarly had many fans and people who bought his music, but what did he do with all that money ... he gave it all away and kept what an average american made at the time and taught music to kids on an indian reservation. He had an authentic joy and knowledge of Christ, and shared His love with all. Now you have Joel who honestly has no interest in giving it all away, and smears it in the face of the public that he shouldn't be ashamed. Doesn't seem like a genuine disciple of Christ. He looks like someone who is leading believers down the WIDE road.
Piers, you are a good interviewer, but you really must give your guests time to give a full answer. Your consistent interruptions are a disservice to your guests and viewers. We want your guests' complete responses, which take more than 15 seconds. Please just listen for their answers a little longer. That is the secret of great interviews. Thank you!
I love how she stumbled while saying she has "a fabulous children"...is that even good English??? How easy is it say you would still be happy if you had no money..........what a liar, if Joel were bankrupt tomorrow she would divorce him.
I do applaud them, as they have (along with others) found a way to get rich off the masses, in their case they made money off the weak and ignorant. Their followers are a bunch of turds, who probably are as arrogant as Joel since they think "well if my pastor is famous and rich, then what does that say about me"? "well I guess I have picked the right pastor therefore I am also smart and successful"!! What a bunch of idiots, why would anyone give money to another person to tell them what the bible says??? Just read it for yourself, and then live your life any which way you see fit. No where in the bible does it say you have to submit any money to a preacher and his collection of suits. wake up people.
so many mean spirited comments here. could it be that some of those who dislike, or "judge" joel for his wealth actually resent him because he is inspiring and seems to be honest. i ve seen people who, depend on keeping other s down out of their own weekness, become very upset when someone comes along raising people's confidence.
Most people think the devil has a red cape, a pitchfork, and an evil grin.........the truth is, the devil will come knocking on your door with a handshake and a smile, and you won't even recognize when its him.
I don't think that people think that the devil has a red cape. But yes, many will not recognize him. But a good indicator will be that he will be the person trying to turn people away from God, His Word and His will. He will be anti-Christ (anti-God) and try to make people think that there is something wrong with being a faithful follower of God. He will actually fool many and there will be a great apostasy (which has already begun).
If you have been given salvation, what more do you need?
Piers Morgan is just a not good interviewer... Horrible. He didnothing but cutting in while Joel was talking, Shut up for a second, please.
Oh please, he's already lapped that ineffectual Larry King. When he cut in it was to make a scathing remark where osteen would have otherwise dribbled on with his delussional crap. Osteen is so trite the only way to breathe life into such an interview was to drive the hypocrisy to the surface.
My favorite part of the Bible was when Jesus spoke of the "Rims on my Escalade" as being "gifts of God". When he threw over the money tables in the Temple and was like, "You gave them DISCOUNTS!?" then docked his apostles a days wage for f***ing up his accounts. ... man I would have loved to be at one of his scroll signings to see how he felt about Osteen (after all, he knew the future).
Please email Joel Osteen regarding his feelings about Gay People
His office manager:
lpa@lakewood.cc
Let him know your feelings that Gay people are in the image of God as well as straight people and that his position of gay people is wrong. I do not know if I can support a minister anymore that does not love and accept all the people of God, even the ones he does not understand. God does not make junk and Gay People are people too.
Rob
Matthew 19:24. And I'm a freakin' atheist, for crying out loud; what's his followers' excuse?
I sent an email to Joel Osteen regarding his opinion of gay people and urge others to send his office emails as well.
lpa@lakewood.cc
You can also voice your opinions at their prayer lines at 1-888-567-JOEL and 1-800-278-0520 (Customer Service)
For a minister that I beleived in he sure is wrong on this.
Mary
No he isn't Mary. Read your Bible.
The Greatest Commandment
One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”
“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.[a] 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength ...
Jonathan J Tibbs
Do I hold the charlatan accountable for taking money from fools? Yes, to an extent. But I blame the fools more.
Seriously, where do you think this guy is "making" his money? Please don't be stupid and say it is from his book. That came AFTER he already had money. Money that was donated to his church. Money that apparently went into his pocket instead.
I fully believe in the separation of church and society.
He was made poor for our sake that we by his poverty will become rich 1 Cor 8 V 9. Joel did not say he loved money & he was careful in saying any thing against the gay community. Love is very essential in our dail dealings
And again I say to you: It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 19:24
Exactly! Or, "do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth."
Last night was my first and last time watching Piers Morgan. He talks way too much and doesn't let his guests talk. He kept pressing Joel and Victoria to say things they wouldn't say. Had he read any of Joel's books? It was an embarrassment to watch.
I guess Joel Osteen forgot Jesus' teachings which includes, "woe to you who are rich."
Only in America could a charlatan make so much money from the irrational beliefs of the deluded.
AS far as the camel and the needle, that means it is very difficult to avoid the problems and temptations of wealth. And as for the money is the root of all evil, Correction, the love of money is the root of all evil. Last but not least, getting paid for preaching is priescraft, plain and simple.
Folks, listen. I see a few types of comments. A) Judging Joel, B) Judging each other, C) Defense and Attack on each other's beliefs, and D) Standing on the WORD. Listen to me brothers and sisters, the beautiful part about life is our ability to have free will. YOU have the choice of one of two families – The family of the world, or The family of Christ. That part...there is no doubt (can agree to disagree if you choose, it is your free will and right to do so). However, as Christians, we are called "NOT" to judge, that includes Joel, Bill Graham, Barack Obama, and each other. Why are you allowing such a post to cause such comments of hatred, malice, envy, jealousy and self-promotion to come from your mouths? I see this from both families on this post. All of us must not judge, lest we be judged. Can gay people be Christian, yes. Can Murderers be Christian, yes. Can Adulterer's be Christian yes. Can Liar's be Christian, yes. Why? Because there is a difference between the "sin" and the "belief". What perplexes folks is that they judge the "act of sin" and make a determination on their destination simply based on "sin". We are called to crucify this sin every day. Do any of you think Paul, Peter, or John never sinned again after Christ left? Of course they did. This is why Christ was the ONLY non-sinner. In other words, no one should judge a gay person any different than someone who lied or is an idolater. Sin is Sin. We are called to be pacifists, and to stray from sin, and it is a life long commitment. We are called to love, not hate. Only The LORD can judge. May The LORD be praised, any know that I hate no one on this forum.....regardless if you hate me.
eh, the Lord only loves, thus he judges not, as much as u would like to assign him this human attribute, "judgemental". Lord is Supreme Being, far beyond human thought & existence...Blessed Be, ArkAngel
One sentence you 2-bit con artist: Harder for a rich man to get into heaven than for a camel to get through the eye of a needle. You should know this phrase, the guy who founded your religion said it first. But the, you don't really give a damn about anything he said, do you? MEanwhile, I'll be sitting back waiting to enjoy the schadenfreud of your inevitable come-uppance. It'll be fun.
It's people like Osteen that lure others like Bishob Eddie Long and other opportunists with no morals to the church with comments such as Osteen has just made and in turn defiles the church and its purpose.
:*)...I love this man just like I love Jimmy Swaggert–not for their message, but for their drama. :*) I say have Osteen meet up with Suzie Orman for a brief dialogue and Suzie will get him standing on his truth and not his wealth in no time. Suzie nearly pulled her hair out over her Octomom intervention–sleek Osteen will be a breeze. Glory, Glory.
Anyone else find it a contradiction when Olsteen was asked how he felt about capital punishment and he was for it but right after that, he believed everyone deserved a second chance (referencing Michael Vick)? If you believe in capital punishiment, I don't believe you're thinking of giving anyone a second chance... I'm sure he (like everyone) has their lines that shouldn't be crossed but I wish Pearce dug deeper or at least picked up on that so he could elaborate.
Thank you so much for having Joel on your show last night,i LOVE him with all my heart,he is a great man and really knows how to make you feel better about yourself and give you hope for the future which is what God wants i believe,He loves us and wants us to be happy.And joel deserves ALL the money in the world,just because he has money doesn't mean that he is evil,And thank God that he has so much money,that way he can help a lot of people in this world and that right there is not evil.
By calling Gays sinners I'm sure he made them feel good about themselves...
Lizzy,
Him making you feel better about yourself will not get you to Heaven. And that is the problem. That is why he is so popular. I understand the world is horrible right now and people need hope, but this is not the person to give it to you by lying to you and not preaching the truth according to God. You don't need Joel. You need Jesus and Joel does not preach Jesus or most anything else either actually found in the Word of God. He is not a man of God, he is simply a motivational speaker using God to fill his bank account.
Joel Osteen is NOT a preacher or a pastor in the name of Jesus Christ. He is a great TEACHER and INSPIIRATIONAL SPEAKER. If he were a minister of the True Gospel, he would preach the Saving Knowledge of God and His Son brought to us as a gift paid for by Christ's blood, which INCLUDES recognizing and denouncing all sin as defined in God's Word, and THEN going on to challenge the lost to accept salvation and REPENT FROM SIN and LIVE A RIGHTEOUS AND HOLY LIFE before God and men. I appreciate that he does not "bash" the sinner, but it is sin itself he should DEFINE AND PREACH AGAINST. By being careful not to step on any toes, he is not a soul winner and he guarantees himself the popularity to bring in his as yet secretive but acknowledged huge salary, whether from books or anything else. That which we gain here on earth for some people is ALL they will ever gain; no reward in Heaven as their rewards were given here. It should ALL be ABOUT JESUS, who He is, what He did, what He is going to do. Not about PROSPERITY in this life on this earth. "For me to live is Christ; and to die is gain," said the ultimate Preacher and Soul Winner, the Apostle Paul. Who had NOTHING on this earth, but a reward beyond imagining in Heaven.
Piers – I'm enjoying your new show. And also enjoy that you are asking challenging questions to your guests. I have a recommendation for a guest that may be able to offer some substance for some of the difficult questions you were attempting to engage Joel on. I would recommend that you invite Timothy Keller (pastor of Redeemer Church – I believe it may be one of the largest churches in NYC). If he agreed, I guarantee you would have some good discussions regarding some of the topics you were attempting to discuss with Joel. Tim Keller also is the author of one of the NY Times best sellers – The Reason for God. Well worth reading.
Piers’ tweet:
Pastor talks wealth, religion, politics and… Victoria’s secret. … Smart-alecky, Piers.
All controversial topics under one roof got your most controversial show to the date and your ratings up, more views, more arguing and your wallet gets bigger. Do you feel guilty in any way Piers for your wealth? I see you and JO in the same boat.
True Christians – be light to the world and pray for the nation daily, make a difference through the Holy Spirit who dwells in you.
Everyone else, debate until there’s nothing left in you to debate and then come back to the point A, same questions, accusations, help Piers get rich and CNN bring back their ratings. Let your kids play video games while you spend hours in front of TVs, so that when they grow up they’ll be completely detached, place your old selves in nursing homes and never visit you. Today’s progress☹
I agree with "alli" onTrue Christians – be light to the world and pray for the nation daily, make a difference through the Holy Spirit who dwells in you.
But in truth, we all need to quit wrangling on each other, and these TV pastors, leaders of mega churches, etc. We should truly focus on our own lives, how to live them according to The WORD, and be examples (Children of Light, Ephesians) to our communities. Actions speak louder than words. Let us pull the plank our of our own eyes before focusing on the "splinters" in our brother's eyes.
May you all be blessed.
I find it extraordinary that Mr.Osteen calls the great humanitarian and entertainer Sir Elton John a sinner!!...one wonders what Mr' Osteens immensly wealthy Church has contributed to AID'S RESEARCH or PEEOPLE WITH AID"S – I would guess NOT one dime from that bunch of bigots led by the biggest phony of them all.....he should read Rev Phillip Gulley's IF THE CHURCH WERE CHRISTIAN – he will find that he is certainly NOT a Christian.
The true Gospel soon became hidden after the death of Christ Gal 1:6. Gospel means Good Tale.
Satan was allowed to deceive the whole world Rev 12:9 until the woman of Rev 12 delivers the true word John 1:1 to the world at the heel of time Gen 3:15. The heel of time is of the feet of Dan 2:33 a time not long before the return of Christ.
It is written in Jer 31:22 that the Lord hath created a new thing in the earth, a woman shall compass a man. The man compassed is Satan (Isa 14:16).
The word is delivered by the prophet of Acts 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; (him) shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
The word (him) is Strong's #846 and means she.
What was Moses like? Num 12:3. Moses and Elijah are together in scripture they are both in one prophet Luke 1:17 at the heel of time. This true word turns the hearts of the Father’s to the children.
I was raised up of the brethren of the lukewarm church Rev 3:16-17; the last church before the return of Christ. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people Acts 3:23.
The true word is now going to the whole world as a witness at http://minigoodtale.wordpress.com and at http://thegoodtale.wordpress.com and at http://thegoodtale.blogspot.com
I have posted a reply to your website on http://thegoodtale.wordpress.com/2010/06/21/the-knowledge-of-good-and-evil/#comment-18 It is in kindness, without prejudice and with encouragement for you.
Preachers shouldn't enrich themselves at the expense of God. The role of the preacher is to spread the word of God and practice what Jesus did. Leave your riches behind and serve. Unfortunately they use God to enrich themselves instead of sharing the wealth to people who need food...Love should prevail over greed...
Why is that what was once called covetousness, was then called greed, then materialism, and today good management, or worse yet "god's blessing"? For "the abudant life does not consist of that which a man possesses" for that which he believes he possesses, in Truth possesses him ;-(
And what is "good" about the destruction of Creation(air, water, land, vegetation, creatures) or the perversion of that which is Spirit(Truth, Light, Life, Love, Peace, Grace, Mercy, Faith, Wisdom,,,,,,, ALL that is Truly GOOD)?
Osteen along with many in American are in love with money, even though they may not see or believe it, but their actions show it. The first thing children are taught to do after high school by society and parents alike (Christian parents too) is to go to college with an end result of making money and getting a job.
But Scripture says Mat 6:33 "...seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." How many parents (especially Christian parents) are encouraging their children to take four years after high school to study Scripture and find the narrow path that leads to life? Not that many. Many push their children to immediately attend college so they can start making MONEY.
The love of money runs deep in America. The churches are no different.
"America"?
Not just the u.s. of a., for "the WHOLE world is under the control of the evil one"!
And witness is given in The Word of Truth that you can not serve "GOD and money"!
As for 'churches'? The ONE GOD, Father(Creator) of ALL said, "what buliding will you build unto ME? for Heaven is MY throne and the earth is MY fooolstool"!
Simply, this is a wicked, evil world and religion is anti-messiah!
Hope is there would be those who take heed unto The Call to "Come Out of her, MY people"!
Mr. Morgan! that was a big confrontation ! I think you don't have to do it especially Joel Osteen !
I've met church leaders that have cashed in their millions to help their church and community. They are now living modestly and reaching out to many without the fancy attire. I do not think they (Osteen's) can do the same. Challenge- live modestly and give most of your "blessed-riches" to the hungry in America and many other non-profit groups helping the cause (national debt, see if God blesses you again…trust in him?)….People that smile a lot or all the time may very well be due to cosmetics or a front to hide their true character (have met many happy people and their faces are not always trying to proof everyone else in the world they are happy). History has the verdict on “blessed-rich” sinners (aren’t we all). Hey Piers, keep it coming! You should have seats with built in thermometer, too much? (could be fun)
Will you please have Dr. William Lane Craig on your show? He is debating Sam Harris in a couple months at Notre Dame on the existence of God and this would be a great interview.
http://www.reasonablefaith.org
Osteen or other minister...or simply just plain pastors in any local church....they are blessed! they are serving God and they are being rewarded through their good job on being fishers of men which is the great commission. God created and own this world, why would He withheld all the riches and glory that His servants deserve. He is the Jehovah Jireh! God the provider... Before you judge any pastors I dare you to be a Christian first. True believing Christians are truly blessed they walk in poor and they all become opulent. Also Christians through the power of the Holy Spirit are gifted with discernment they can tell what is evil through the Holy Spirit,,,But you will not know that because obviously you have a different spirit. God bless you all. May our Lord God edify you.
It remains just as The Messiah testified, "Woe unto you who are rich! for you have received your consolation." (Luke 6:24)
"And then The Messiah said unto his disciples, "Truly I say unto you that a rich man shall hardly enter into The Kingdom of Heaven". And again I say unto you, "It is easier for a rope to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into The Kingdom of GOD"." (Matthew 19:23-24)
"HE(GOD) has filled the hungry with good things(Truth, Love, Faith, Hope,,,,), and the rich HE has sent away empty." (Luke 1:53)
And today we have the rich believing "righteousness" is in giving half of what they are "worth" away ;-(
And The Messiah testified, "Whoever of you that does not forsake all that he has, he can not be my disciple".......(Luke 14:33)
Father Help! and HE does.......
asimpleandspirituallife.org
How judgemental some can be. If you don't know, don't assume. Maybe God is using Osteen.... and not the other way around? Either way, the good word is getting spread.
Nobody should be quick to judge and to the person who said to never trust a person who smiles, and giggles all of the time because there is darkness on the other side...SHAME ON YOU....maybe that is true for your experiences but no two are alike....I smile and giggle ALL of the time....and I don't have any deep dark secrets... actually I am an open book and I believe secrets only hurt others as well as yourself.....I love smiling and I love laughing and I love giggling...more people should find a reason (their true reason) to do so....it helps us to live longer and lead a much happier life...:) there is a smile for you...
Notice that everyone's using different Bible passages, all on the same theme. This is far beyond proof-texting – it's one of the major themes of scripture. There are literally hundreds of Bible passages discussing why we should not seek after money or hoard it, because money has always been and will always be one of the greatest idols drawing people's attention away from God.
Amen brother! Joel Osteen is simply pulling many scriptures out and taking them out of context to prove his point. Nowhere in the Bible do you ever find that Preachers are suppose to be living in Million Dollar homes. As a matter of fact we as Christians are suppose to be "good stewards" of God's money and use the majority of it to help the poor and needy. You find all throughout the Bible lessons on sharing the wealth of the rich with the poor. It is commanded throughout. Joel Osteen will have his payday soon! When this "motivational speaker," non-called preacher, finally stands before Jesus and gives an account of what he did with all that money he made running a business instead of a HOUSE OF GOD and spreading that false Prosperity Gospel I am sure that Jesus will say, "Depart from me you worker of iniquity I never knew you." He is not the only one however! Many of these so called men of God on Television driving their Royles Royces, fishing on their Million Dollar yachts, flying on their private Jets, staying in $4,000 dollar a night hotels, and living in these multimillion Dollar homes will all have to answer to God and I fully believe from my study of God's word they will all probably split Hell wide open.
On Piers Morgan show Joel Osteen wouldn't comment on whether the death penalty is wrong. Being from Texas himself, he wouldn't want to upset his death penalty loving Texans who pay for his luxuries.
I understood immediately the message Joel Osteen was relaying about insulting "his god" which is wealth. The insult is to your intelligence. Joel is little more than a motivational speaker with a twist. I wonder if that pretty woman would be sitting beside him if he were poor. A man like him would never give all his money away and it is sinful to live in a 12.5 million dollar home while 25% of Americans are facing foreclosures. @ Francis,,,that scripture is "it is easier for a CAMEL to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God". not that that matters I got your point in a round about way. Joel PREYS on peoples guilt feelings to make him prosperous, most think they can buy their way into heaven. Not to toot my own horn but I made a turkey and remembered a friend or two who might not have enough to eat so I took them food and then a friend working on his house, I took him a plate. I went to have a meal myself and realized the turkey was gone so I had a bowl of soup instead. That is Christianity.
Thankfully i am of The TRUE 1% who have received of The TRUE RICHES!
For it is quite evident that "The Abundant Life" is in and of The Spirit and has naught to with temporal treasures!
Truth testifies, "the abundance of a man's life does not consist of those things he possesses", and i believe those things possess the man, for "the deceitfulness of riches and the cares of this world choke The Word and It becomes unfruitful" ;-(
And why is it that some believe that a certain portion of this world is "good"? When "The Word of Truth clearly testifies, "The WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one", "if any man loves this world The Love of The Father is not in him", and "whoever would be a friend of this world is the enemy of GOD"!
So it is that the brethren of The Messiah are but "aliens and pilgrims while on the earth" for their "conversation(Life) is in Heaven".......
And soon and very soon, each and every son of GOD is taken Home, Home at last!
Till then:
Father Help! and HE does.......
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Father Hel
An Good post with nice ideas.
I watched both interviews with the Osteens.
I have to admit that Piers pushed Joel further during the 2nd interview, but I kept waiting for him to ask the simple question: How does one get to Heaven?
I think it would have been interesting to see Joel's response.
Oh, and, does anyone ever notice how poorly the two of them speak, using the "you know" in their conversation so many times, that I ran out of paper to keep "ticking" away for a final count!
Your buddy Joel is a pompous overbearing fool who will certainly rot in hell for all the people he has led astray. He and his painted lady will feel the wrath of GOD so they better enjoy themselves now.
"Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
all you religous buffoons are making this guy rich. Next...
Well "Holla" I wouldn't call the folks who attend his church and are giving to that church making him rich "buffoons" but I would say they are being greatly misled by Joel with his "prosperity gospel" message. The Bible is very clear that there will be "false preachers" who will preach a message that is designed solely to please the congregation. It also says that there will be "false preachers" who will be only interested in building their bank accounts. Joel fits into both of these categories. He will soon have his day however and have to stand before a Holy God and give a full account of the false messages he preached and why he wasted God's money on such frivolous monetary goods.I pray for him and my hope is that God will save him and lead him to start preaching the true gospel message of repentance some day before it is to late for him.
Everything costs money ........... heaven costs money
You know those baskets the pass around church they want you money if you don't you burn in hell
You know those special Gospel Concerts they cost moeny if you don't buy them or lsiten you burn in hell
Joel Osteen will ROT IN HELL ..he is the pot calling the kettle black. If i remeber the bible says to open your house "church" to the the poor $40 a ticket i dont think these people are poor This guy mayeb should ahem doante ahem to the chruch ahem
No my friend, Heaven does not cost anything at all! You cannot buy your way into Heaven. The only way into Heaven according to Jesus is through Him for He said in John 14:6, "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man cometh unto the Father but by Me!" If you do not accept Him as your Savior then you will never get into Heaven. Joel Osteen on the other hand needs to well understand what you said about the fact that he will burn in Hell someday because if he were truly a Christian then he would preach the truth instead of telling people that "He believes there is more than one way to Heaven and that he does not want to offend anyone by telling them the truth." Scripture firmly states that if you love the world, Joel's love of money and material things such as his fancy cars and the 12.5 million dollar home he lives in, then the love of God is not in you. This means that you cannot love money and love God at the same time and Joel states that he does. This means that he is not a Christian at all. His goal is to earn more and more and live a lavish lifestyle and that is totally against scripture for Jesus said, "Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon this earth where moths and rust corrupt but rather lay up for yourselves treasures in Heaven where neither moths or rust can ever corrupt." Paul told Preachers to "Preach the Word in season and out of season. Reprove, rebuke and exhort with all long suffering and doctrine." However all Joel does is exhort or lift his people up each and every week trying to make them feel good and be happy about themselves. Therefore he is not preaching the "whole Gospel message of repentance from dead works and acceptance of Jesus" and that my friend will send him to hell because Jesus will tell him on the day of Judgement "depart from me ye worker of iniquity I never knew you!"
Leave Joel Osteen alone! He is a good man doing GREAT things. All these IGNORANT people and pathetic and jealous so call pastors show envy are DISGRACEFUL!