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On the heels of North Carolina passing a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, on Tuesday "Piers Morgan Tonight" welcomed Tony Perkins for a spirited discussion on the referendum.
Joining Piers Morgan for a live interview, the President of Family Research Council detailed his "pro-family" position:
"I have been working on marriage law for over 15 years. And the reason it's important, Piers, quite frankly, is because public policy shapes the culture," said Perkins. "And when we're - what we're talking about here is not shaping policy or creating policy based upon an individual here or an individual there, but what the social science tells us is best for society as a whole."
As the lively and engaging interaction continued, the host asked the 49-year-old father of five how he might handle one of his children being gay:
"Well we would have a conversation about it," answered the guest. "I doubt that would happen with my children as we are teaching them the right ways that they are to interact as human beings."
Watch the clip, and listen to the interview, as Morgan asks Perkins to explain how a gay couple can damage civilization by getting married.
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This guy is a nimrod!!!!!!
Name calling simply shows your lack of intelligence an closed-mindedness.
Or you could say that the person who is ignorant of Biblical truth is uninformed.
If GOD is so againts GAYS why isn't he sending down BOLTS of LIGHTNING and desterying them He is all omnipoten and powerful enough to do so. STOP making GOD in you own NARROW MINDED IMAGE!
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The issue with gay marriage is not something that is prejudice, although in some cases it is. The issue that people have with it is this and perhaps you and your viewers will understand it this way. First, I have friends whom are gay, and they understand this concept. Marrage=3. Man=1. Woman=2. Therefore 1 +2 =3. 1+1=2 . Morgan, empathy,understanding, your liberal point of view, which i admire, can not change that. So if 1+1 =2 and marriage is defined as 3 , man + man can not egual marriage. This is the logic behind it the concept against Gay marriage.
There is absolutely no logic in that. Based on what do you assign the value of 2 to woman and the value of 1 to man? What are the units attached to those numbers? Why is marriage defined to equal a value of 3?
Using your same logic I say Apple= man, Orange = woman, Banana = marriage. So apple + orange = banana. But apple + apple or orange + orange can never equal banana. Sounds irrational right? Because it is. Humans created marriage as a social construct it does not fallow the same rules as math and science.
Warren, your mathematical analogy does not work; your variables do not compute. This both displays the intellectual bankruptcy of the far right position and, simultaneously, demonstrates the importance of teaching basic mathematics in school. Support education. Support equal rights. Support Obama. 2012.
Well, that is interesting! By your logic, Warren, three men should be able to get married. I mean, if the only criteria is somehow adding up participants to equal "3," then gay monogamy is the problem. Gay polygamy, on the other hand, must be perfectly acceptable!
Excellent point; man plus man plus man equal three! So there was flaw within that "logic". That was the only argument that made sense.
Marriage is a social contract. This contract was drawn up several hundred years ago; marriage in this contract said "man and woman". So I guess we should change criteria within the contract then? Marriage should be redefined then? Is that what you all are saying? Equal rights? We should not change the criteria to fit whoever wishes to be a part of it. Maybe we should allow marriage to be between three men then? Shoot, let’s allow Teddy to marry his dog too? Because who is to say that dog and the man do not have the right to marry each other and for the states to recognize it as such. Either way, there is court whose mentality reflects what I have said, at least on the surface.
I watched the interview on the television and I disagree with Mr. Perkins. regarding the genetic factor. Mr. Perkins is a prime example why so many young gay people in the 60s and 70s + stayed in the closet. You say, "That wouldn't happen to my children because..." Yes it does happen "to the best of families " and yes genetics is a factor. You denied that. I have met many gay people in my life and have discussed their perspectives and feelings.
Maybe you should do some research or else, stay in denial.
Mr. Perkins is astonishingly ignorant.
Oh Piers, Piers, Piers. What an opportunity of raking Jonah Goldberg over the coals last night when he said liberals have no ideology. You could have laid on him the cliche "I'd rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief." That sums up the difference between liberals and conservatives. Liberals know we live in a multi-dimensional universe and that there are countless ways to solve problems, whereas conservatives have only one worldview and that is "we"ve always done it this way." Conservatives are afraid of the unknown, afraid of change and have a single-minded solution to everything... "no change." That's why they "cling to their religion," to quote a famous president, because religion is old and unvarying and uncompromising. And they "cling to their guns" because they're afraid of the future.
You had such an opportunity of showing up conservatives for what they are... that is very conservative, or one could also say "stuck in a rut."
Very well put. Change is inevitable, and only a bad thing if perceived that way. A new perspective is upon us.
Interesting....I thought Peirs was the closed minded one last night. He wouldn't listen to or be open-minded to the conservative point of view last night. He wouldn't even let Mr. Perkins respond to his questions without interupting him. Peirs was very unprofessional and emotional during this interview...very disappointing of a liberal to not be open to ALL points of views and lifestyles including traditional marriage!
I don't cling to religion, just my belief in the Bible. Which happens to be what this country was founded upon. Again it is a shame that with all the liberals "talk" about not discriminating–Christian are that ones that are having to fight for their religious freedom in our own country against fellow Americans. So much for Liberals being so accepting of people who are different than them!
This country wasn't founded on the ideas in the bible. This country was founded with religious freedom in mind, or freedom from religion.
Good on the state of north Carolina! There is no reason why2% of the population should have such a stark impact on social norms from a legal perspective. This issue is far from being a civil rights issue like slavery or women's suffrage and more often forced (media, political lobbying) on the population to convert people to 'social' acceptance. As an American in Britain it is very clear why Piers feels the way he does the way he does. It seems to be more socially acceptable here than back home in the US. Gay people have their freedoms to have relationships and enter into civil contracts with regards to property and inheritance, etc.,, they don't need to legislate to redefine marriage.
Who defined marriage? Where is it defined? Where is it written it has to be between a man and a woman, where? I would really like to know. I am a straight woman, not shy to share this information and I love men but what if, what if I liked women and I wanted to get married and have a family like anyone else? I have a nineteen year old daughter. What if she were gay, met someone and decided to have a family? What would really be the difference? Honestly, please people let's move on.
Just another mean and hateful Christian.
Why couldn't Mr. Perkins answer the questions? All he did was say "...good question..." and went on to talk and talk but never address the question. Why can't straight conservative individuals answer straight forward questions?
OMG...does this Perkins ever listen to himself talk? What nonsense! Who listens to people like him? Oh...that's right people in the South!
Good for Tony! And for the record, it doesn't make someone an idiot or hateful if they disagree with other people. It makes them a normal human being. Are gays hateful and stupid because they disagree with Tony Perkins? I guess everyone has forgotten that children do best in families where there is a mother and a father, and they are both around. 2 Dads? 2 Moms? We really don't know what that is going to do in the long run to kids or to our society at large. For all of recorded history families and marriages have been made up of men and women, not 2 of each. So somehow, folks that think this arrangement might be best are 'backward' or narrow minded? How about informed, conservative and cautious. This doesn't even get into the religious aspect of the situation, which is obviously opposed to gay marriage for a number of reasons. Nor does it enter into the obvious issues that gays cannot have their own children – a biologically untenable scenario without 'intervention'. How much more obvious info does it take to make this whole thing sound like something man-made instead of something natural?
What recorded history are you talking about? Recorded history is full of things like marriages between female children and old men used to cement kingdoms and trading rights, men having numerous wives and fathering scores of children they barely knew, royal families breeding and sending their children off to be raised by nursemaids and courtiers, workaholic fathers leaving all the work and child-rearing to their wives, families forced to stay intact by archaic , and religious anti-divorce rules which meant both parents were miserable and children suffered. Don't say the way things were done in the past was better, because they weren't. Gay families work so hard to get married, and work so hard to have children, and they never take for granted what came so easily to the scores of clueless humans that muddled through it for the past 120,000 years, and still never got it right.
I support Tony and will definitely not vote for Obama!!!!
Donahue graduated with a Doctorate..... what year? I'm guessing by his age that when he graduated smoking and having a martini after work was the norm. He is arguing why shouldn't a brother and sister get married? It's called inbreeding. It results in the children of close DNA having numerous genetic problems. He's so angry- I'm waiting for his head to explode like in 'Scanners'!
Mr Perkins: You say that marrige between a man and a woman creates kids and benefits society .......Sometimes the kids from these men and women are born gay don't they benefit the society also or should we deny them? ..........Also like Chris Rock said If you HATE black people your white child will marry a black person.....If you HATE gays you will have a GAY CHILD!
Really? Seriously? Mr. Perkins, the fact that you are part of our society and believe what you said in the interview gives me no faith in the future, for gays, for your children, for married couple's divorce rates, on and on. Wow, what a scary interview. Is a prerequisite low level of intelligence necessary to hold down the job he has? He should hang his head and go home.
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