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May 9th, 2012
10:07 PM ET

Bill Donohue: "Obama has always liked the idea of two men getting married"

As Wednesday sees Barack Obama voice his support for same-sex marriage, this evening "Piers Morgan Tonight" welcomed a host of experts and analysts, celebrities, and journalists, all charged with detailing and debating one of America's most-polarizing social issues.

Joining Piers Morgan live for a face to face discussion, Chad Griffin explained the impact of the president's stance:

"Every single night, LGBT people get in their beds, turn out the light, and instead of closing their eyes, and going to sleep like their friends, and their parents, and their colleagues, they stay awake and stare at the ceiling fearing the next day," revealed the incoming President of the Human Rights Campaign. "What the President of the United States said today – the first President of the United States said today – is that he cares for them. He is their president, he is standing up for them and he believes that they too are equal under the law. And that is incredibly significant."

Representing the other side of the debate, Bill Donohue took a decidedly different approach to today's news:

"Obama has always liked the idea of two men getting married. He had to change, because he wanted to become president and he said he invoked his Christian moorings," said the Catholic League President. "Now today he had to wiggle with that."

Watch the clip, and listen to the interviews, as Donohue presents an example about which Griffin responds: "I find what he's saying to be ridiculous."
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  1. FRANK

    PIERCE'S COMPARISON OF DIVORCE OF A MAN AND A WOMAN STATISTICS TO ACCOMODATE A LOVING GAY COUPLE IS LUDICROUS AND HYPOCRITICAL; COMING UP FROM A BRITISH CATHOLIC WHERE, HE'LL PROMOTE ANY CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC TO GAIN RATINGS

    May 9, 2012 at 10:43 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  2. Lisa Chabrier

    It took me some time warming up to the Piers show, but tonight you totally won me over! THANK YOU so much for not allowing that CRANKY old man Bill Donohue get away with his "old dinosaur" remarks. I literally wanted to reach through the TV and slap his hateful face! I am not gay myself, but I am 100% in favor of gay rights ( as are both of my teenage boys) and I applaud your willingness to take on this grouchy bigoted man. I used to be Catholic and have first hand knowledge and then some that even the priests don't live up to most of what they preach. Thanks for a great show!!! And THANK YOU PRES. OBAMA!!!!

    May 9, 2012 at 11:34 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Beth

      Lisa, love your comments – I couldn't agree more. That bigoted old fool made me ashamed that I was raised Catholic and kind of clarified why so many of us have turned away from the church.

      May 11, 2012 at 11:20 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • gerald

      America is one mixed up place where people think that two people of the same s e x can be married. There is nothing sillier even stupid! Common. Call it what you want Sodimony. But it is not MARRIAGE which is and always has been the union of a man and a woman. Don't change the language to support behavior.

      May 11, 2012 at 6:07 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  3. Jan

    Sorry, but Chad is wrong. The majority of America is NOT for gay marriage. Kudos to Bill for standing up for the truth.

    May 10, 2012 at 12:19 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Russell

      #truth

      May 10, 2012 at 12:43 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Norman

      Jan-sorry silly bigot-all national polls last year and htis year show acceptance for gay marriage well over 50%-can you not read?

      May 10, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • gerald

      So far every state that has voted on gay marriage has voted it down. Ya, we are in the minority all right.

      May 11, 2012 at 6:08 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Camille

      According to national polls, you are incorrect! The majority of americans are FOR gay unions, just saw the poll on tv tonight! As the saying goes "we've come a long way baby" that is gays, women, no thanks to republicans or the catholic church, which are hypocrites and yes, I am a catholic and no I am not gay!

      May 11, 2012 at 11:37 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  4. Josh Wilkinson

    If it wrong to refuse gays to marry, why is there not anything wrong with those who refuse (aka United States) the right for loving / consenting couples to practice polygamist relationship?? Where is the line drawn. Since when is it ok to refuse one and not the other.

    May 10, 2012 at 12:21 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Josh Wilkinson

      They are both wrong and should not be allowed. But if for some reason one is held up they must both be held up so there is no dicrimination between one party and not the other.

      May 10, 2012 at 12:24 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Norman

      Polygamy is a straight issue-nothing to do with gays. If youw nat to advocate for it, go ahead!

      May 10, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  5. Darren

    WHERE IS THE REST OF THE INTERVIEW??? There was SOO much more said that was IMPORTANT!

    May 10, 2012 at 12:45 am | Report abuse | Reply
  6. John

    Gays like to say christians are intolerant but I find gays more intolerant to anyone who is against them. At least the other side lets them talk while they don't want to hear anything the other side says. I think Bill Donohue had some good things to say and thank you for putting him on. I'm gonna have to look him up. I do have to say Piers seemed like an "Idiot" for basically saying if your not for gay marriage you can't love a gay child.

    May 10, 2012 at 1:10 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • patmcguinness

      "Gays like to say christians are intolerant but I find gays more intolerant to anyone who is against them."

      I agree. There were horrible hateful things (as in "I hope you die" type stuff) tweeted by those opposed to North Carolina's vote to maintain traditional marriage. Tolerance starts with a toleration of differences of opinion and you cant have that tolerance if you call the other guy a hateful bigot just for not agreeing with you. I am tolerant and willing to live and let live, but we ought not change the definition of marriage, that's wrong, we need to keep it as is for the kids' sake.

      May 10, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Norman

      look, dumdums-gays are denied rights-they are denied housing, denied adoption, -gays dotn have to be nice to you bigots-we HATE you-the courts WILL give us full equality, but who says we have to be nice? did blacks have to ask nicely for rights? did women? shame on you-just die off already!

      May 10, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  7. Bill

    John is right. If you disagree with a gay person you are a gay hater. Piers keeps saying gay people should have equal rights but changing the definition of a word is not a right. Marriage is more than two people who love each other. Marriage has a whole lot of laws that were put in place to protect procreation ( not adoption- but an actual birth). These are laws in place to help procreation which is necessary to continue our existence. But changing the laws will not change the Catholic church's stance or any other church belief. It appears Obama has a 'thing" for the Catholic church and their freedom of religion.

    May 10, 2012 at 1:23 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Norman

      if you disagree with equality, yes, you are a hater-you dont diagree with full eqaulity as a citizen-does teh KK just "disagree" with blacks? idiot!

      May 10, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  8. Kingsley

    This is absolutely unacceptable,what a shame.

    May 10, 2012 at 2:22 am | Report abuse | Reply
  9. WorldCares

    Mr. Donahue's insistence of a response to an incestuous situation had nothing to do with the subject.
    If a person is born a certain way, should they be condemed?
    There is alot of hate, prejudice, judgement and " wholier than thou contradictions" in the United States.
    If my Autistic son had been born in ancient times, he would have been thrown into the fire or sacrficed for being the village idiot.
    Unconditional LOVE has always been the goal but has yet to be accepted by the Christian mass, due to the human ego.
    Truth is good. You did good, President Obama.

    May 10, 2012 at 2:37 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Tony

      Sorry but you are wrong. Christianity is the big reason why we have human rights in the Western world and why kids were not thrown into the fire as you say which was an ancient practice eradicated by Christian values. Now that Christian values are being eroded we do have babies being thrown into the fire. Check the stats on abortion of children with down syndrome and other forms of disabilties. Christians are the lone voice against this abomination. Piers Morgan has turned into a spokesperson for the Obama administration and has lost all journalistic credibility. Calling someone a dinosaur in a debate instead of debating the points the person is raising usually means you are losing the argument. Secondly just because an idea is old doesnt mean it is wrong. Third Piers Morgan should stop referring to himself as a Catholic because he has clearly sold his soul to Hollywood doctrine and there are plenty of Christian denominations who accept gay marriage.

      May 10, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  10. Stella

    The fact that Piers Morgan and the rest of his guests are a little confused about gay marriage is no wonder. But, one thing is for sure, it's not something to be voted on by the people as they did in North Carolina because now it will affect the gays as well as the straights. The civil liberties will be effected for everyone. As a Christian I believe in a man & woman marriage. As a compassionate human being I believe that gays should have their civil liberties according to gay unions but not religious marriage. God was clear on that issue see Rom. 1:25-28. I think the problem isn't so much how people feel about it but how it effects government, benefits, and laws pertaining to children. There are other serious problems we need to focus on like the economy, jobs, Medicare and Social Security. The person who can figure out how to keep Medicare and Social Security solvent definately has my vote. Am I my brother's keeper? You betcha!

    May 10, 2012 at 2:46 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • darthaardvark

      As "christian" you are an ignorant fundie asshat that bases his morality on an imaginairy friend. Good luck with yer buddy by the way we dont need your hate and ignorance.

      May 10, 2012 at 4:23 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • rj

        @darthaardvark

        So it can be replaced by yours?

        May 10, 2012 at 6:39 am | Report abuse |
      • Jim

        Atheists for the most part resort to name calling and put downs when giving their views on religion. You are no exception. You make no sense at all.

        May 10, 2012 at 7:29 am | Report abuse |
      • Brian

        Good reply, Jim. I have noticed this on many occasions, that if you get a comment from an atheist, many 'attack' with nasty and abusive comments.

        May 10, 2012 at 12:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Norman

        Jim-its hard to argue against ignorance. When you insist on Zeus or the spaghetti monster or apollo not approvign of something, it is absurd-hwo do you debate "well, my parenst drilled it into me and I take is as fact"??

        May 10, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Timothy D. Naegele

    Piers Morgan's right to enter the United States should be revoked; and he should be barred from entering this country.

    If only Larry King would come back, and get rid of this anti-American, far-Leftist Brit, who wants to eliminate State's rights, and knows virtually nothing about the United States and Americans.

    May 10, 2012 at 3:18 am | Report abuse | Reply
  12. mark limp

    Wow everyone here is killing me. attack someone based on where they are from, attack them on anything. But don't talk about the point. you who talk about where piers is from are pathetic, where are your parents or grand parents from ? Denying people their opinion becuase your bigoted is not okay at any point regardless of where they are from or what state they are in. your logic is as flawed as your morals and makes me sick

    May 10, 2012 at 3:30 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Jim

      Where he is from may explain his total lack of understanding of why the US even exists. His comment wondering why we didn't have a government where the president could just make a law that covered the entire country is moronic. That kind of thinking is why we have a UNITED States. He is talking dictatorship, monarchy, or one central government (communism). Piers's background leaves him clueless about the country is making a living from with his silly remarks.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:26 am | Report abuse | Reply
  13. Bernie

    This flip-flopper POTUS did NOTHING for equal rights. He talks a good politician's game, then affirms North Carolina's popular vote. DON'T BE FOOLED!

    May 10, 2012 at 3:46 am | Report abuse | Reply
  14. darthaardvark

    now this president comes out on gay marriage? Friggen kim kardasioan can get married but 2 guys cant. Marriage is a farce its a contract of ownership and if 2 gay guys need this paper to adopt then let them. How many hickoids care if two females get married? Biased hickoid crap. Stand up for civil rights. Obama failed hard by not supporting this from the get go. Playing the game.

    May 10, 2012 at 3:47 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • darthaardvark

      why dont u left wingers say anything? This guy didnt care about equal rights until election time came around. call him out on it.

      May 10, 2012 at 4:19 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Steve

        Too Bad, you lost. Get OVER IT.

        May 10, 2012 at 11:39 am | Report abuse |
  15. mike wawshaw

    you the man darth

    May 10, 2012 at 4:32 am | Report abuse | Reply
  16. Chris

    I've listened to the debate for a while. Today I hearda few arguments against gay marriage, that frankly are a bit absurd.

    First, the argument that Mr. Donohue used, comparing veteran benefits to that of marriage benefits is a bit absurd. Almost everyone in this country is eligible for military benefits. All you have to do is serve in the military. Simple. Marriage is a bit different though, because all you have to get from the government is a piece of paper stating your married.

    The other stupid argument was that marriage is designed to protect procreation. There are more than 6.8 billion people on the planet. I don't see humans going extinct because two men or two women want to get married and receive the same benefits as a man and woman married couple. Even if no babies were born from this point on, and two people died a second, it would take more than 130 years for there to be no people left.

    If you go down the road of religion, well not everyone's religion is the same, and all must be included if even one is. Not all religions or faiths say gay marriage is wrong. If that is what you believe then it's your prerogative, but the United States government is supposed to treat everyone equally. Banning something because of one groups religion is just discrimination towards another.

    May 10, 2012 at 4:36 am | Report abuse | Reply
  17. Tony

    Didn't go through the first time, but this is simple: In the U.S. we have separation of church and state. As such, there are religious marriages (ceremonies, recognized in the eyes of God) and state marriages (apply for a marriage license, recognized in the eyes of the state) – typically people get both. But here the debate is about STATE marriage laws. Any argument that "marriage is defined in the Bible as between a man and a woman" aren't applicable, as state marriage governs legal status in the eyes of the state only. Religions are overstepping their bounds when they invoke the Bible as policy argument. Likewise if Bible arguments are the SOLE basis for "marriage laws" (as I haven't heard any other reason) – then it's a conflict of church and state (state is making law based on religious principles).

    May 10, 2012 at 4:39 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • gerald

      Tony, you have never heard of natural law? Man and woman are obviously made for eachother. They are complimentary to one another. There s e x u a l organs together form a purpose more than m a s t e r b a t i o n. Nature is life giving. The union of a man and man or woman and woman is STERILE! There, didn't quote the Bible once. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Call the union between men and men and women and women sodimony or what you want. It's not marriage.

      May 10, 2012 at 11:32 am | Report abuse | Reply
  18. john

    The laws that our forefathers put in to place to protect us were based from the bible. Marriage as it stands is also from the bible. If you don't believe the bible is nonfiction at least believe it was used as a guide that worked well for our grandparents and great-grandparents and the further we get from it the worst things seem to get.

    May 10, 2012 at 6:50 am | Report abuse | Reply
  19. Mark (Canadian)

    Piers..Why do you bother to interview those on the RIGHT? You interrupt them so often and IMPOSE your point of view so strongly, that we don’t get to hear what they have to say. Obviously, you would rather IMPOSE your point of view except of course when those views are on the LEFT.

    May 10, 2012 at 10:03 am | Report abuse | Reply
  20. Reason

    You do realize he's from a parliamentary democracy, right, where the Prime Minister has even less power than our President? I believe he was employing what's known as a "rhetorical device" to make a point. More to the point, why do you folk care about whether or not two people in love can get married? Saying allowing gay marriage will cause polygamy and bestiality (btw, that's actually _legal_ in 16 states, including North Carolina, which recently repealed the ban – which is, ummm, just weird) is flat-out ridiculous. It's legal up in Massachusetts, NewYork, Vermont, etc, and there's been no push for polygamy, bestiality, etc. In fact, as a fun factoid, the states where's it's legal have some of the lowest divorce and adultery rates in the country – the states that want to/ have banned it are some of the most divorced, cheating states around. I judge people by their deeds, not their words, and from actions I condemn the Protestant-Christian states for their lack of family values, morals, or ability to keep it in their pants. It's shameful. Get your own house in order, before judging others.

    May 10, 2012 at 11:03 am | Report abuse | Reply
  21. gerald

    Tell it like it is Mr. Donohue! Good job. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Anything else is BS.

    May 10, 2012 at 11:27 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Norman

      nope-sorry bigot-there are tens of thousands of gays bnow legally married in teh US and in the world

      May 10, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • gerald

        They can think they are married, society can think it as well. The fact is they are not and never will be. Their marriage has not meaning.

        May 10, 2012 at 2:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Norman

      Gerald, youre an ignorant fool. My legal gay marriage actually means a lot. It means legal protection for me and my spouse of 4 years-it means commitment of eternal love to each other-it means everything a straight marraige means and more since it is hard to attain and still not full equality-Who doesnt think it means anything? YOU? hahaha-and your God? That is so innane. I bet youre just some old codger awaiting death, sitting in your trailer, , mindlessly reading your bible, swearing that the country is going to hell "in a hand basket"-YOU, sir, are the one who is meaningless. YOU, sir, are the one who will be dead and forgotten in a few years, remembered by no one, loved by no one. YOUR time is over, sir-I laugh at you and I spit on your grave.

      May 10, 2012 at 3:15 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • john

        Did I hear something like 32 states put this to a vote and it lost all 32 times?

        May 11, 2012 at 7:00 am | Report abuse |
      • gerald

        Norman or is it Norma? And I am supposed to be tolerant of you? Your words only show the hate in your heart that is spawned by you illicit behavoir that is contrary to natural law. I will pray for your eternal soul. Good luck.

        May 11, 2012 at 6:11 pm | Report abuse |
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