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On the heels of the tragic Newtown, Conn. school shooting which left 28 people dead, this evening "Piers Morgan Tonight" invites Sen. Dianne Feinstein to the program to share her vast insight and strong perspective on the firearm debate.
A long-time advocate for stiffer gun control, the senior senator from California plans to answer Friday's massacre of 20 children with political action:
"I'm going to do an assault weapons piece of legislation, and it's going to be strong, and it's going to be definitive, and it's going to ban – by name – at least a hundred, military style, semi-automatic assault weapons," she tells Piers Morgan. "It's going to ban big clips, drums or strips, of more than 10 bullets."
Admitting to being "very angry" following the unimaginable horror that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary School, Feinstein insists that the right to bear arms is not limitless:
"There's no Second Amendment right to bear every type of weapon that you know of. These are a certain class of weapons – they are designed to kill, large numbers of people, in close combat. I don't believe the Second Amendment covers them. The Second Amendment was written a long time before this class of weapons was founded, merchandised, and spread all over our country, where they fall into the hands of juveniles, grievance killers, people who go into our malls, our theaters, our stores, our businesses, and now our schools, and just kill people for no good reason. It's got to stop."
Watch the clip, and listen to the interview, then tune in this evening at 9 as the Chairwoman of the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence further details her reasoning behind being so impassioned to create this newest piece of firearm legislation.
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Yes it does Dianna. I tell you what let's have a discussion on restricting the 1st amendment rights of Hollywook in making those movies and programs that glorify gun violence before you restrict my 2nd amendment rights.
When is this country gonna get it right, gun control has to be at the forefront. It is time to stop all this senseless killing. I have written the White House about this and given them a quote from a famous character on Star Trek. Years ago on one of the Star Trek movies, Spock stated and I quote "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one". It is time to realize that there are more people in this country that need gun control to protect us, then there are people in this country that need guns. Guns kill, gun control can save lives, wake up America, wake up, please.
A post on face book today......
"One failed attempt at a shoe bomb and we all take off our shoes at the airport. Thirty-one school shootings since Columbine and no change our the regulation of guns"
How is an assault weapon ban going to stop all the assault weapons that are already out there? The ammunition they fire has to be banned – far easier and more effective. Also, armed guards have to be in place to help prevent tragedy. If anyone has ever flown internationally, and landed in Germany, they will have noticed the dozens of armed federal police officers (BGS) that are seen everywhere patrolling the airport. They are not just armed with pistols, but with rapid-fire weapons. There has never been an incident at any of these airports.
I want to say thanks to those that like me are sayn NO MORE GUNS ,thanks also to Mr Morgan thank you so much.
Your are exactly 100% correct my friend. I too have written to my state representatives and to the president with my suggestion for a new Gun Control Bill ... may Senator Feinstein & President Obama have the power to persevere and defeat the Gun Lobby & NRA who will now, no-doubt, throw out everything they have (and the kitchen sink) to protect the views of those who love guns in our nation.
May those who love people trump those that love guns.
When you quote star trek, are you saying that we humans are that far advaced as a civilzation?
The question you should ask yourself is why an elementry school, movie theatre, or mall? These murderers prey on people that are weak (meaning people who won't fight back). Why don't they attack a police station or a military base? The answer is...THEY HAVE GUNS and more of them. They don't want conflict...and they usually kill themselves before the police get there. Just because you get rid of guns does not mean they will not be accessible. For years drugs have been illegal...has that stopped people from obtaining them. Murderers will find a way.
What kind of a moron are you, Guns don't kill people, people kill people, guns are just inadament object that takes the blame.
When are people like you going to wake up???
Because not one single person has been killed in Chicago since their gun control laws went into play...
So if the needs of the many are to kill one person, because it could save many more lives, that makes that killing justified?
Its a nice quote, but it comes from a T.V. show and your needs have nothing to do with mine. Especially when I am a law abiding citizen have committed no crimes, you are advocating that I be punished for crimes I have not committed, and it disturbs me that people don't see anything wrong with that?
Senator Dianne Feinstein:
I grew up in socialist Hungary before immigrating to the United States in 1978 at the age of 25.
One way to exercise my rights as a United States citizen is to write to my elected representatives about issues that concern.
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control under Joseph Stalin. From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
In 1928, Germany established gun control. From 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, Christians, gypsies, the mentally ill, and others, who were unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
In 1935, China established gun control. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents were unable to defend themselves and were rounded up and exterminated.
In 1964, Guatemala established gun control. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
In 1970, Uganda, under Idi Amin, established gun control. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
In 1956, Cambodia established gun control. From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated" people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
It seems like people don’t learn from that past.
We need sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition feeding devices because "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
WE NEED GOVERNMENT CONTROL, NOT GUN CONTROL!
C M Arkus
This country was founded by violence, and it continues right up until today and likely beyond. The US has been involved in so many violent wars since its inception, and admittedly we would have no history if we had no wars. When we stop building war memorials, will it mean that we have become civilized?
Forgot to add that we have a culture of violence in this country that has been here since its inception, and it continues on. When will it die out?
wow ok so you are saying that you dont belive the founding fathers where right to fight brittan. Look at how bejamine franklin was treated by the privey counsile, he walked in there a britain and walked out an ammerican. And we where wrong for entering ww2. There comes a time when it MUST be nessisarry to fight for freedom and for the good of people.
have alittle respect most fought for your right to speak your mind
We will become civilize when we stop killing little kids in their classrooms.
I am sick and tired of the liberal media, piers morgan and his abuse of his guests and individuals like Mac above who choose to live in this great country and soak up all that benefits them while insulting our past. Mr. Morgan constantly beats up his guests that do not agree with his ideology. When did the media become so biased that we can no longer get an Honest view of whats going on. Where are the checks-n-balance for them. You do not have any idea on what you are talking about with gun control and it will not prevent future violence. Do not compare us to your country or Europe as we are a different culture. Please leave if it truly bothers you as we need the room. Your focus needs to change and reflect the lack of mental health laws and services that we are lacking at this time. If you like stats so much, the most difficult patient in an ER to find placement is a mental health patient. Ave stay in an ER is 12-24 hours if not longer. Why don't you research why that is? I have watched your show 4 times and get angry with you each time. You are so abusive to your visitors. Is there an Honest and respectful commentator anymore?
Its time for Piers Morgan to be given a one way ticket home. He continues to become more and more outspoken on issues than don't concern him as a NON-citizen. What a shame that he has such a podium.
@wells and effie: You're missing the point entirely. My posts went flying right over your heads. Let me draw you a picture: Our countrty was founded on violence, and that violence continues. Founding fathers used the violence to free themselves from England's grip. Their right to do so. However, studying the Revolutionary War in minute detail may surprise you. I am a Vietnam Veteran, and fought with the 25th Infantry Div. between 1968 and 1969, so don't give me any of your sanctimonous garbage. And Effie D. "we will become ciilized only when we stop killing children?" Does that mean killing everyone else is ok and we can be civilized then? Gimme a break!!
Just as I'm in favor of the second amendment, I'm also all for countries like Iran and North Korea having nuclear weapons too, they have a right to defend their homeland against anyone, and if that means shooting us first so be it. More fool us if we don't have enough weapons stockpiled to intercept them and hit them back.
Piers needs to dial it back. If he wants to give a yelling angry speech that is his choice. It is inappropriate to bring on a guest to "interview" and proceed to be disrespectful and insulting to that individual on a personal level without giving them a chance to even answer the questions posed. That is not productive or informative reporting.
I am a mother and a healthcare provider. I have cried along with the rest of America. I also enjoy shooting guns. I grew up with them. I have been educated informally and formally in firearms. People who are disturbed and evil can kill lots of people with or without guns.
The comparison to automobiles and drunk drivers is valid. I have never heard any suggestion that people be deprived of their cars – or limited in which cars they can own. I would be interested in the statistics of how many people are killed by drunk drivers vs those killed by killing sprees of automatic weilding individuals. That said I fully support background checks and responsible gun ownership – including instructional classes. I also oppose gun show sales.
I live two towns away from Newtown. My heart goes out to all the families affected by that ill individual. But I agree with you Kay. Very rude to invite the man on the show and rip him like that. He was absolutely correct in saying that the media and the ridiculous awful insensitive questions some of these reporters ask and the lack of valid information that they have been reporting is irresponsible. Asking the medical examiner about how many times each were shot.Was it at close range? No one needs to know that. Did they suffer. Really. . Asking that?? Then asking him what were they wearing?? Are you kidding me. Do you think that's responsible reporting??? I do think people have to be responsible in their gun ownership and keep them locked up. I also believe in background checks. I don't beliece there should be bans on guns because they are already out there. If there are bans put in place the law abiding citizens. Will abide by the law and the only ones with those guns will be the criminals.
The comparison of guns with cars is cowardly. People do not drive cars inside movie theaters, churches, schools, shopping malls, colleges and etc. Cars are almost a necessity whereas guns are only a necessity for protection against those with guns.
Nothing kills easier than a automatic assault weapon. To compare guns with cars I think is really redicilous.
We have laws for cars.. For speeding and for drunk drivers. Bushmaster have no places in the streets.
Comparing cars to guns is not a valid argument. Do people die in automobile accidents at the hands of people who are impaired? Unfortunately, that answer is yes. Cars are not made to kill; cars were made for transportation, but that is not the issue at-hand at the present. Why, I ask, are guns made? Answers vary depending on who is responding, but some say guns are for protection, while others may say they are for hunting/sport. Please understand that I am not opposed to the 2nd Amendment, however, the real purpose for any gun is to kill, why else would gun safety instructors teach not to point a gun at anything that you wouldn't be willing to kill? I do not hold the belief that people need assault weapons nor do I believe that people should be allowed to purchase drums/magazines for assault weapons. How many more mass shootings must occur before America wakes up?
With regards to the comments about Piers Morgan, I felt a bit uncomfortable with his approach during one of his recent interviews. However, at least he is among those showing passion about protecting the 'many'.
Such comparison is utterly wrong simply because a drunk driver does not intent to kill his victim. The killer at sandy hook dressed to kill maximum number of people. How how can you possibility say such comparison is valid. Pierce was showing his emotion something that old gun loving guy obviously lacked! It is time to translate anger into action and defeat gun lovers and the gun lobby
Kay, thank you so much. I couldn't agree with you more. Morgan only wants to PUSH his one-sided agenda and will not allow an honest response which may influence another to have a though different than his own. I ask this, why are the liberals so forcefully pushing their agenda while others are still mourning the loss of their loved ones and while many are full of anger? Aren't we taught to wait till we have a "cool head" before acting and verbalizing our thoughts? There are so many issues that are ignored which will have a bigger impact if addressed, on the amount of violence which you and I see on a daily basis in the healthcare field. Lastly, I agree that responsible gun ownership should be pushed which includes locking up your guns in your home. They should not be lying around in a home of an unstable individual?
According to Mothers Against Drunk Driving, in 2011, an average of 27 people per day were killed by drunk drivers.
Right to bare arms, just take your shirt off and enjoy an old fashioned fist fight with bare arms lol
Your culture and worship of second amendment is what is cancerous for the US not what makes your country safer!
Old fashioned cowboy mentality, your living in the US not Iraq lets just call ourselves John Wayne.
This shows how little you know about our history. I am not sure where you are from but in alot of countries even some so called free states you have no right to speak your mind see china. in some countries youre speach is controlled by a state run religion. in some countries just posting on the web could be a death sentence. in this country we take our rights seriuosly and would fight to help you secure youre. Because they arnet ammerican rights they are human rights
You are right Jack. The worship of the second amendment is outdated. When the founding fathers wrote it, it was 225
years ago! It was a brand new small country. If the founding fathers could see what is happening to day they would
have turned in their graves. The abuse of the second amendment.! All those assault weapons in the streets ,killing
our little babies in their schools. Something has to stop the insanity.
Gun control is a tax, and does NOTHING to increase security. Most murders are not even committed with these high profile weapons. There are other weapons besides guns and punishing people who believe in their rights and freedoms is pure evil. Go home piers morgan – I am tired of your verbal diarrhea polluting the air waves.
The Second Amendment is stripping Americans of the Fourteenth Amendment.
I"M MAD AS HELL TOO!
But, Piers Morgan is wrong again!
Facts: Shame on CNN!
The worse mass murder in the U.S. in recent years was by Timothy James McVeigh whom killed 168 people with a bomb in a Ryder Truck. (NO Assault Rifle)
The 2nd was Cho Seung-Hui who killed 32 at Virginia Tech with two hand guns (NO Assault Rifle)
Then of course we have the Muslim extremist at Fort Hood who killed 13 U. S. soldiers and wounded 30 with a hand gun. (NO Assault Rifle)
He brought Australia up tonight, well they are sorry they banned the guns they banned because, the gangs and thugs took over without a fight. This is also out there if you look it up and don't listen to this non-American. (I wonder if the Mexican cartels and inner city street gangs, would run ramped if ALL guns were banned. The cartels can ship 1 million tons of drugs across our borders every year and we can't stop it. I wonder how much money the cartels would make off gun running, enough to buy more politicians? Enough money does corrupt all)
The point here is, Pier is a tabloid journalist who would use any tragedy in America to get on the news band wagon of military weapons and anti-gun debates so he can get paid more next year. And of course get more air time to preach his British views and call all Americans who believe in our 2nd Amendment idiots. And he comes from a country that believes in taxing the poor and giving it to the rich (Royal Family). Talk about living in an out dated country! (We kicked his fellow Britain's out of America 200 plus years ago because we don't want your dictatorship or personnel views in our house anymore!) Hasn't his work visa expired? I'm sure there is an American out of work that could do and would take his job here in America.
FACTS: Here is a career politician worth over $100,000 million, been fined $190,000. for failure to properly report campaign contributions and expenditures, which means she lies and distorts truths like all politicians. She is from a state that she helped get all guns regulated, has the 10 round magazine law, that she brags about, to be from a state with the best gun laws and regulations in the U.S.A., but has more GUN MURDERS than any state in America. Yea, that works well! (Of course it's because there are more people, ha!) She has been in the Senate 20 years and going for 26 and done nothing to fix America's issues. She is also from a state who CUT its mental health programs like all states and the Federal Government.
The issue is helping the mentally ill and the depression and alignated people of America. She and the rest of the elected Government officials won't talk about that today because they are the cause! It's not the Ryder Truck company's fault or the gun makers. It's we the people that have elected the non-truth, word twisting, power hungry and wealth driven politician, all at the expense of the American people. Maybe if we would of used the Government bailout (our tax dollar) on the American worker and mental health programs instead of our politicians giving it buddy bankers, their family and friends, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
Don't believe these BS'ers and get the facts for yourself!
God Bless the Children and Teachers we have all lost.
I am glad you brought up the FT Hood shooter. you as a Marine have the understanding of just how restrictive personal gun access is for servicemembers. you are also very aware of some of the freedoms you give up to join the military. I say to all if you are willing to give up your right to search and siesure with out due prosses then i would look favorably to more restrictive gun laws
The Mormons held the record about 143 men, women and children were murdered by them at the Mountain Meadows Massacre North of St. George, Utah in Sept. 1857 until Timothy came along
UNITED NATIONS SAYS: USA– HAS ONE OF THE LOWEST MURDER RATES IN THE AMERICAS.
Check out Mexico where guns are outlawed 16.9 per 100,000 compared to the USA's 4.2 or 4 times Higher. Wyoming 1.4, Idaho 1.3 and Utah 1.9 where you DO NOT need a permit to carry. (2010 FBI Stats) You just care about your hate for guns NOT THE TRUTH. White and Hispanics together commit about 3.3 murders per 100,000 in the USA, Blacks about 23 per 100,000 almost 7 times higher.
(FBI STATS 2010) If Blacks would quit killing each other the USA would be on par with Merry Old England 1.2 per 100,000 You are an emoitional little guy, but I like --– Just the Facts Piers, Just the Facts. Anyone can find the World Murder Rates at the UNODC
Isnt the biggest mass murder in us history 911 with over 1000 american deaths?? also i get the right that ppl want to own a gun but shouldnt we be then working on a way so idiots dont get ahold of them...stricter laws, psych evaluations to own one?? what about mental health laws...millions of sick americans are not being treated due to unaffordable health care and cant even afford meds they need to be on...this country needs a change!!
This one is much more appalling because it was an elementary school. 9/11 could have been prevented because there was ample warnings.
Wow Piers I'm changing the channel. You make me sick. Just because a few crazy people do something bad, we should make every gun owner suffer. I've owned an AR for about 20 years and haven't shot anyone yet. Yes if someone carried it could have changed these shootings. I don't think I'll be watching CNN anymore. When I watch the news I don't like a biases gun hating reportersshoving their wrong opinions and made up factsdown my throat. Guess I'll buy a couple more AR's before idiots take them away. By the way Mr I'm an expert on guns. An assault weapon by definition is an automatic or burst weapon, not semiauto. Yeah get a new comment program this one sucks...
Amen to Steve and Scott. Well said. I too hate watching CNN. I long for non-biased true reporting. How else can America learn whats really going on? I am sick of hearing about the rights of a few out weigh the needs of the many. The rights they are talking about are their rights too! If there were so few, then we wouldn't be talking about this anymore as those rights would have already been trampled. There are more gun owners than The many realize. Let's address the real issues. Why wasn't there a plan in place for these types of events, since its so common. I mean we have fire evacuation plans, routes and inspectors. Can't we have the same for these types of events? Wouldn't leaving the building be safer than hiding in the corner of the room? I don't mean to sound insensitive but these are real questions that needs answers to prevent such horrific events. Gun control will not eliminate the 200 million guns out there. So lets get proactive in addressing things we can change immediately. Homeland Security has representatives in most towns in my state. Can't they inspect these plans much like a fire Marshall does with fire prevention plans? Then put more money into Mental Health with public education/awareness to recognize the warning signs of depression and aggression. These things along with tighter regulations on gun ownership would decrease these types of nightmares. But don't hold your breath cause people like Mr. Morgan won't let you throw out any ideas for discussion as he is too busy pushing his agenda and abusing his guests. BOOOO and shame on your Mr. Morgan. This one paragraph along with Marine Scott above has been more meaningful than the last 4 shows of your that I watched. LOL
Steve – if these guns hadn't been sold in the first place, how many of those 20 kids would be alive today; every country has their share of deviants, but, based on a per capita basis, the USA has 45 times the number of deaths from firearms, almost 200x the deaths/injuries as the next country in the developed world; something has to change;
1. all automatic/semi-automatic weapon, or those with large magazines sales are banned
2. all owners have 60 days to surrender any banned weapon
3. penalty for possession of banned weapons is min 2 yrs with a lifetime ban on posession of any firearm
4. use of a banned firearm in any crime results in min 20 yrs time served, plus continous ban on ownership and restrictions on movements monitored by an ankle bracelet for life, regardless if anyone is shot/killed
for those law-abiding citizens, it would have no impact on their lifestyle
No law abiding citizen will be affected... right.
Except for the fact that you have now DISARMED ME. As a law-abiding citizen, I would be unable to defend myself, my loved ones, or my property. And any non-lawful influence would know it. I now have to rely on an already overtaxed, and in many cases extremely corrupt, government police force. How many minutes until they get to me? Five? Ten? In that time, any amount of horrible things that someone could wish to do to another human being could happen.
Now. Different scenario. How long does it take me, same situation, to grab my Simonov, load it, charge it, and be ready for an agressor? In my home? 20 seconds, tops. That's including retrieving it and its ammo. From there, I have 10 rounds of 7.62x39mm ready and waiting, with a steel-backed oak stock as a backup. I'm thinking the situation has tilted somewhat in my favor.
@Tesla – how long before these deviants plan for your defense??; possibly attack with a bazooka or tear gas grenade before entering your house???; you wouldn't have a chance to load/find your Simonov rifle; the amount of surplus military weaponry on the internet makes procurement easy;
Mr morgan, if you are afraid to remain in The United States Of America then leave, Guns don't kill people, people do!! I feel bad for the victims and thier families but you are the problem not the solution. Every gun is an assault gun, that is what they are for,,,my gun has killed less people than Kennedys car...background checks are in full effect and work. Mentally unstable persons should be put away and this would not have happened. Stop spouting your pathetic retoric.
where does it stop??; everyone goes out and buys a fully automatic weapon for "self-protection"; the deviants re-arm with bazookas or grenade launchers so they are certain they can overpower their target and achieve their goals; not a pretty picture
You really don't know what you're talking about, do you?
Ok, I'll address your thoughts in something of a reverse order.
1. Grenade launchers, rocket launchers, and other military explosives already exist on the street, in limited amounts, in criminal hands. They are not seen or used often, for a variety of reasons:
A. The ammunition for these weapons is prohibitively expensive on the black market.
B. They draw far too much attention, much more than just law enforcement.
C. The vast majority have a minimum arming distance, which is prohibitive for any sort of close quarter combat.
Why would you use a rocket launcher or grenade launcher against a non-entrenched opposing force? You would be much better off utilizing a submachine gun, light machine gun, or assault rifle, which are already commonly used by criminal elements.
2. Why would a citizen need automatic weapons? Any situation with multiple aggressors (I.E. 3 or more). Ever seen a riot break off through a residential neighborhood? Ever seen video of a "Flash Rob?" Heck, people still get lynched. These situations occur more often than you imagine.
Go out shooting sometime. Find someone who knows what they are doing, and go out shooting with them. Try a variety of firearms; learn the proper care and feeding of at least one. You will understand far better the right that we are trying to protect.
Pepe, it doesn't stop. People having been killing eachother since before recorded history. It's not likely to stop after a weapons ban. You have your opinion and are free to act on it. But understand others do not feel the same way, and you don't have the right to take away their means of protecting themselves.
'A well-regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. The exact wording of the second amendment, written at the time when the American Armed Forces were a militia. It is one sentence, not two so it would seem to me that the two items, a militia, and the right to bear arms are not separate. The US now has arguably the most powerful armed forces in the world which would seem to obviate the requirement for a militia (read the reserves these days) as the sole line of defence for the country. So why does the country need an armed population?.
The Supreme Court has ruled that the right to have a hand gun in one's home is a reasonable interprettion of the right to bear arms, and no one will argue the right to have weapons for hunting (altho that is more sport these days than necessity).
Police and members of the armed forces, all of whom need to be armed, are subject to stringent weapon control, and face severe penalties for their mis-use or loss. Why should the general population be exempt from the same rules?.
Bottom line, it is a sad commentary on the state of a society when everyone feels they need to be armed to "protect themselves and their loved ones". Perhaps if there were more controls, the need to carry a gun to protect oneself would diminish if not disappear. Unless and until the culture which currently exists around guns in the US is changed, I fear the type of horrific situation just seen in Newtown WILL happen again.
Peter, it will happen again and obviously you have never needed the police. One day, when you do, you will see they don't beam into the scene. It will seem like an eternity before they get there. I'm glad I had my gun which saved my life and not a knife like the other guy. Gun control will not eliminate this threat. Education of the public, money in mental health services, and a decrease in violence on the movie screen and video games will all turn this around. Lets get real and work on solving the problem. The media will not allow this to happen because its against their liberal agenda
This is more toward beau and others then you peter c ant we come up with a compromise...i like what pepe was saying...why not just have strict laws on owning a gun..if you are a law abiding citizen then it shouldnt affect you whatsoever....what about a psych evaluation to obtain a weapon or have a gun licence to be certain...i realize nothing is perfect...ppl obtain weapons illegally all the time but it is a deterrant for some criminals...also what about better mental health services...for some reason there is more mentally unstable ppl then there ever was...we need to start something to make mental health services affordable for ppl so they can stay on the meds that help him...or programs to keep them off the street and out of schools, etc with weapons...something needs to change....atleast ppl are making an effort to discuss a solution...dont just defend your gun...come up with helpful solutions as to what you think the country needs to stop the next shooting.....
I think the logical extension of this argument is that every American after the age of 14 and every adult tourist is issued with a sub machine gun and ammo. Combine this with 1 hour per day video game playing shoot em up – like attack of the zombies to sharpen up the reflexes. Of course every 6 months people will be psychologically tested, so we can lock away the crazies. This way we would totally eliminate all gun crime and homicide. Everyone would be too afraid to leave their homes.
Interesting that Feinstein wants to take our guns, but has a permit to carry her own concealed weapon. She can defend herself, but we can't?! I think we should see her for what she is, as hypocrite.
It takes one to see one
Keep it up Piers, I dont want to read another tradegy like this again, its never too late to change America
You are my hero on this issue Piers. Keep the momentum up every night until change is realized. I have been waiting 30 years for change since my 19 year old boyfriend was killed with his own hand gun in 1982.
I agree . Thank you Piers for having the conversation every night. Keep up the good work and maybe the America
people demand strict gun control before we have more tragedies,like Newtown..
Ok, I'm sorry for your loss, but this is important... How did your boyfriend die because of his own handgun?
Go Pierce Go, As a mother of a 6 year old, I worry when is something like this going to happen in my area. Please keep up your passion for common sense gun control. This is absolutely insane that people think that gun control is "just fine".
I agree!! Piers, you care more about the American populous than some of our own citizenry!!
Compromise: let the guns look anyway you want but change the law to only allow weapons that require the following legal: no more than five rounds, all weapons must require the manual advance of a round into a chamber by the operator, without mechanical assistance,, where the chamber must fully retract manually and chamber the round manually. Finally, magazines should be fixed and all rounds top loaded through the breach. This definition would allow people to own weapons but ensure mass murders are reduced as the operator would actually need to know how to use the weapon.
There is NO need for the weapons used in many mass murders to be owned by civilians!
It seems to me that possession of a gun should require the successful completion of a permitting process that includes a bacdkground check and a psychological inventory. Should the inventory indicate a possible problem, the individual should then have to be examined by a board of three mental health professionals that would have to vote 2-1 in order to approve or deny a permit. Importantly, the clearance process should be extended to every member of a household and nor to just the person who desires the weapon. Any individual who intends to move into a household that already is permitted should also be reqired to go through the process. Failure of the potential resident to pass the process should require either that the individual not take up residence or that the weapons be removed to an approved situation. Permits should have to be renewed each year. This should assist in dealing with problems such as the one at hand which involved a disturbed person having access to guns legally acquired by the person he was living with. Granted, this will not end gun violence in America. Mitigation, though, is not top be disparaged. No law is 100% effective. That does not mean that laws should be abandoned.
The problem is that once the gun is out there it does not matter how strict the screening and background check process was. Nobody can guarantee that only the people that passed that process would have access to that gun.
From what I have heard, the guns used in this crime were obtained legally and the owner killed. How does all the gun control in the world prevent this? We are a nation that swallows camels and strains gnats. The killer could have used any one of the guns he had in his possession to commit the crime. While we are in the banning mood lets ban cars and drunk drivers (drunk drivers killed ~211 children in 2010), abortion (55,000,000 dead, all soon to be children) and since we are doing so much good for our society lets ban knives and forks because kids are overweight. We have had guns in this country since it inception, the question is why do we have this problem now? Is it because as a society we have thrown God and his church to the side and embraced humanism?
like what you are thinking william! though not sure its fair to have a family be defenseless because of one relative...option is kick them out or no gun....doesnt sound right...need more talk though
How do you put a ban on all the assault weapons already out there? It simply won't work. What must be done is put a ban on the ammunition it fires, like the .223 caliber rounds That would be a far simpler task.
Hey Mac I'm guessing you don't know what a reloader is used for ?
Yeah, you're guessing and it's a bad guess.
They will need to do both.
do you understand the dif between a .223 round and a 22lr round 5 grains of gun powder total amount 50 grains when will people understand that this not a high powered weapon. a 30-30 round has 150 grains of gunpowder. When people try to say its the same as the military they are wrong. the military one has a burst selection and higher power ammo. Also even with the recent shooting being an annomally. Thsi weapon was never desinged for rapid fire hence why they dont have auto any more in the military. and i would agree that for owner safety they shouldnt allow 30 to 100 round mags they are unsafe for the opperator
Ok piers, we know how all the criminals have taken over the UK. You should be ashamed to dance on the graves of children.
Who is this jerk who claims that his rights to bear assault weapons is more precious than 20 children?? What century is he living in?? "Fun" is NOT a reason to justify these ridiculously over-powered guns be legal!
again these are not overpowered weapons they shoot .223 rounds 50 grains of gun powder a 22lr has 45 grains. a 30-30 which is considered a high powered rifle uses 150 grains. the rounds the military uses are illegal for civilians.
dont belive me check with a weapons specialist. Alot of manufatures mislead people when the say a military grade weapon. It could be with illegal adjustments
Have you any hands on experience with guns?
That man on Piers Morgan just now said that we shouldn't deprive the hundreds of millions of people in the U.S. who want their automatic weapons that they own. There are only THREE hundred million people in the U.S., including children. The man is not speaking intelligently. What hundreds of millions of people is he talking about?
these are NOT automatic weapons they are semi auto huge dif. also they are not designed for rapid fire. For this reason the military took off auto selection and went to 3 round burst which by the way is illegal to have
How can Philip Van Cleave make an arugment for weapons intended for war and assualt are fun? The happy faces of people learning to ahoot them justifies keeping them available? Shall we use that same stupid statement as a reason to legalize meth? Keep it up Piers – show Van Cleave no mercy.
The thinking of Philip Van Cleave proves the mind of a psychopath. Guns are fun – I am certain that it wasn't fun for the parents of the 20 children that spent the night at their school in a puddle of blood because guns are fun.
the civilian model of the m-4 is NOT designed for going to war unless you would say a .22lr would suffice. they are almost identical in the civilian version also dont let the manufactures or pundits mislead you. They are NOT the Same as ther military versoin. its sad these idiots have chossen this weapon. in the military version they no longer have a auto select because of how dangerious it is to the operator.I would say for opperator sfety alone the 100 round mag's should be illegal
Dianne, anyone with a heart should be behind you and I am so happy you are leading the way. I am Canadian and American's need to wake up and get rid of these guns.
Does this idiot Philip Van Cleave have a family because this moran does not have a heart.
Psychopaths do not have a heart.
I do not believe there is a single gun owner that has not been devastated by this massacre, just as everyone has. To say otherwise is cruel and insensitive.
Regarding drunk drivers killing people and not "meaning" to – they are still just as dead.
Piers is doing a great job on leading the outrage on this cause. His passion is palatable. He says everything I am feeling... asks the questions I want asked. Thank you Piers for standing up and doing something so incredible valuable and so needed at this time.
So this idiot wants all of us to have guns on us (as he referenced the movie theater) so we can all jump up and shoot the person next to us??? The days of the Wild West are waaaaay over!
You do realize that the pinnacle of violence in the Wild West, The O.K. Corral, had only three dead, right? Three? In the biggest "massacre" in the old west? Sounds to me like arming everyone and having everyone understand the virtues and responsibility of being a firearm owning citizen saves lives. Odd that.
I'm watching piers Morgan right now and all I can say is yay piers. You are speaking on behalf of all of us and your arguments at every corner are accurate and perfect. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Keep it up Piers. You are speaking for so many of us that feel strongly about limiting access to guns.
Piers is acting like a neo-fascist apologist tonight. He cuts off his guests opposing his views and regales us with British crime policies. He sounds like the British Blackshirts of his heritage. I wonder if he is feeling his oats after allowing his reporters to eavesdrop on British crime victims and then getting away with it? What an embarrassing joke he is.
The second amendment speaks to the right to bare arms. Does this allow me to bare nuclear arms? What a pathetic excuse to say there is a right to be armed with today's modern technology. I'll give the NRA credit this time. They haven't told us that people kill people ...guns don't kill people. But give them time. The debate isn't over.
Think of it like the syrian rebels. The militia was very unrespected by the regular army. Their purpose was to harase the british till the trained regular army could get there. you can think in terms of the viet cong. they didnt need to win just outlast us
here the prob with looking at it from the standpoint of guns kill people with out the nut behind them? The real problem is untill we start to fix our moral ills, not from religion ,but from humanity the killings will not stop even if you could possiably get all guns taken away. the fallacy is people will find away to kill others. banning guns will not fix this. case in point the oklahoma city bombing.
Also if you want to quote the china knife attack, there is a reason their citicenes dont have fire arms.
Gary, I'll take one bombing every 20 years versus the madness of gun violence every day. As for your argument about people will find other ways to commit violence, your right. But that's not how we deal with issues in the world. We address them as they fall on our plate. 911 ring a bell? Weren't prepared, now we're better prepared. Shoe bomber ring a bell? Weren't prepared, now everybody has to get down to bare skin. My point is to say we don't not do nothing to fix a problem in fear of a possible alternative method for violence. Myspace didn't know facebook was comin'. Facebook didn't know twitter was comin'. You do what works in your time period. TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY YEARS AGO the bulls**t 2nd Amendment worked. BUT NOW in 2012, probably not a good idea to live by a piece of legislation made by slave owning, woman oppressing, bad wig wearing, non inclusive all white males. You think?
@freshyoungminds, you're right! We shouldn't hold onto any legislation from 250 years ago. Now shut up and start praying to the God of the Government, because you really shouldn't be following such a mindset that you have freedom of speech or of religion. That's 250 years old! Now, you don't get to sleep in your bed tonight, because there are government soldiers who have taken over your house for use as a barracks. Hey! One of them found your illegal poetry. Good thing they were there to see it, seize it, and arrest you for your contraband. They figure all you poetry-type people always have poetry-type friends, so they take turns setting parts of you on fire, and peeing you out. Finally, when you finally crack and give them your co-workers name just to stop the pain, they take you there, drag them out of the house, declare them guilty, and shoot them in the head. They then resume setting you on fire.
But surely someone will stop this! Someone, anyone! Why did no one tell you that your rights are only sacred as long as you can keep them? No one told you the only way to keep them was by the threat or use of force!
End narrative. A final note. Remember that your nation, your government, in the past 50 years, has opened fire on U.S. citizens multiple times. Remember the blacklisting of the McCarthy era, of government gone mad with power. Remember the United States citizen who (although he had terrorist connections) was executed without trial by the U.S. government. Never, ever think that a scenario like the one I described can't happen here. And yes, 300,000,000 privately owned firearms can and will make a difference in such a scenario.
I am been murdered by the Government without the right to a trial because I tried to expose our Politicians for corruption.
I am so proud of you Pierce! You nailed it! My father was killed by his best friend in a hunting accident. I have always felt this way about guns but have been met with much opposition. Thank you
Peirs is kicking ever loving add on his show tonight. I was sitting here in my living room cheering him on as he verbally decimated this idiot guest of his who compared the Bushmaster to a "Ferarri" the day after 20 children were slaughtered by it. Go Piers go! Kick his ever loving butt!!!
I would agree at least in poor taste. And as a footnote. I used a gun simular to that for 20 years in the Army and they are more like decent volkswagon
REVIEW SECOND AMENDMENT
Second Amendment to be reviewed as follows
No more guns on the streets of America. Only a member of the Armed Forces, Police Forces, Special Forces and Security Personnel will have and carry a gun
The United States of America is no longer the 18th Century militia nation. The United States is now a 21st Century nation of peace, love, honor, innovation, leadership, liberty and freedom
An American citizen will qualify to buy a gun for hunting purposes only at the age of 45 years after being fully vetted mentally, psychologically and socially supported by a recommendation
A violation will be a felony offense
That's just dumb.
Great thinking. In the 1800's, we did not have alarm systems to feel secure in our homes.
A 21st Century Nation of peace, ....... Have you read a newspaper lately ? Aside from problems at home I believe we just sent troops to yet another Country.
Bravo. The Second Amendment needs to read as you stated.
While we are at it, lets throw away all books, video games and movies that are violent. Maybe its time to reinstiute religion back into schools, since when a tragedy like this occurs, where is the first place ameircans turn? Lets begin fixing the root of our problems versus blaming the gun makers.
That sounds familiar....
"Hooray! We're gun-free! We're a nation of peace, love, and innovation! What was that? Yeah, now that I think of it, that does sound like jackboots. Oh look! It's the President! Oh, neat, he's got a plan for the economy! We're gonna build... war machines? That's odd. Ah well, the military knows what it's doing. Ooh, he's going fire and brimstone now, yeah! There's a problem with the economy? No $#!*, Sherlock. It's who? The Je ws? Ok, that was a little unexpected. Umm... What's a Final Solution? And why is everyone raising their hand...? Why are you giving me this star...?"
I live in Ontario Canada and I am just sick of what happen to those little children, I have 4 grandchildren and cannot imagin anything like that happening to them. I agree with Piers all guns and I mean all guns should be turned in. There is no need for anyone to have a gun in their home. Only the ploice or military should be allowed to have them. If you have rage against your neighbour, friend, a family member or a stranger use your FISTS. not guns. maybe the worls would be a much safer place.
Criminals will always get them in other ways. I want a fair chance at defending my family if ever needed. Hopefuly I never have to.. bur if the time arrives I am ready for the intruder
That 98.5% chance you might have to use that weapon of yours isn't worth the everyday violence that occurs. Let's stop all gun sells to regular civilians and do massive "funds for guns" pushes country wide to get guns out of the hands of criminals and violence will inevitably go down. Criminals need money more than they need guns.
Pierce, you are obviously not an American, and your reporting is biased. I have never seen such an unprofessional interview as I just saw with the man that is for freedom to own a gun. You are out of control and I thought you were going to go off and kill someone. It is that anger that is a cause of all these problems. Anger you are spreading.
We have the right to be angry when our elementary school children are no longer safe.
Definitely not a professional, and it's sad to think this is the standard being displayed to children. Now some kid is going to think this kind of behavior is okay.
Congratulations, Piers, on your stand on gun control! Your comments should be heralded in America! God Bless and keep up the good work. I try to never miss our program.
Like you guest just said, "scream it from the hills" Piers.
I'm trying to figure out why his mother felt it normal for 'her' to purchase these types of guns. I also believe she had other guns in her home. My question is how do we get these guns out of the bad guys hands while being able to realistically protect own homes and families. My heart breaks for those who have lost their babies and loved ones. Our prayers are with them.
That has been my question. Why did she have these types of guns to start with??? My 27 year old would say: Just because she can! That to me would be the dumbest, most ignorant answer, but I would bet that's the best answer one would say.
"My question is how do we get these guns out of the bad guys hands while being able to realistically protect own homes and families." AHA, I thought you'd never ask. SO HERE"S MY PLAN TO RID AMERICA OF GUNS (the short version). It's a 5 part plan. Part 1. Simply stop all sales of guns in America. This can be announced a year in advance to give gun shops and sellers time to evaluate and find a new source of income. Hell, we may even set up some kind of severance or somethin' that provides some kind of consolation for the year following. But what about the people that are just going to go buy guns in bulk like it's a nuclear war comin'? Now the announcement of "guns will no longer be sold in America" can only be said with the following information to coincide with it. Which leads me to part 2. Part 2. Announce that fines, IRS, tax, etc, some kind of penalty will be given if all registered guns by legal owners aren't turned in within 5 years. This leads me to part 3. Part 3. We do a "funds for guns" no questions asked country wide. Criminals, crackheads, and the poverty stricken want money more than guns. So what this does is it hopefully keeps guns in the hands of the people who have rightfully purchased weapons a little bit longer because they probably don't need money the same way as the average street criminal and THAT is the initial intent of this plan. To rid the guns from thugs first, thus allowing legal gun owners the relaxation of handing over their own guns later on. We have to be able to prove that crime is down before America kisses that good ole 2nd Amendment goodbye. "Funds for guns" will obviously be available for the rightful gun owners but they probably won't be willing to turn theirs in until year 4 or 5 when gun violence is down. And yes I do know that they've done "funds for guns" in different cities but never on a massive scale like this. Part 4. New law. Unregistered gun owners, aka criminals, only get 1 year to turn in your weapon for money. After 1 year any person caught with an unregistered firearm gets 5 years imprisonment no questions asked. Hey, they do it with 3 strikes or with felons caught with weapons. It's go hard or go home at this point. We have to show the country we mean business. So yes, an automatic 5 years if you get pulled over or caught with an illegal firearm NO QUESTIONS ASKED. I'm not against an automatic 10 to be honest but I'm trying to have a heart. Again, the whole purpose is to first rid the streets of guns out of the hands of the people who absolutely should not have them, BUT the long term plan is to make sure that eventually nobody has one. But those that are law biding citizens and have legally purchased guns should not be treated the same as criminals, thus the reason for a fine versus jail time if you still hold on to your weapon. Drumroll. Part 5. None of this can exist if we don't also take extra measures at the borders and with any shipments coming into America. This is the part of the plan my girlfriend always says "If they don't get them in America they'll just start bringing them in from Mexico". Now I'd like to think that an automatic 5 years is the deterrent for not trying to get your hands on illegal weapons. But none the less, we have to tighten up our borders. Now ALL OF THIS is just the meat and potatoes of the plan. I realize that "certain" individuals need weapons for farms, wild animal areas, etc. and should be the exception. There are many minor stipulations that can be put in but this is my over all plan as a whole. If anybody agrees, disagrees, supports fully, or sees loopholes, please let me know. Aww yeah, there is a part 6. Part 6. Tracking and microchipping people. Then you gun lovers can keep your toys and the government will just know every single step you take. Hell, they already track us with cellphones, GPS, credit cards, black boxes, etc. Again, I say go hard or go home. But I digress. Different conversation for another time. But let me know what you think about my 5 part plan.
well said!!!! wanna run for office?
Sounds like your describing Mexico that has a 4 time higher murder rate (not including the mass graves they haven't found yet) than the USA. According to the U.N. Stats 2012
My heart goes out to all the parents of these innocent children and to the teacher's families who tried to protect them. I am a Canadian too, it scares me that every year many Americans are stopped at our border and their guns are seized if they want entry. They deny they have them in their cars or motorhomes. What about the ones our border patrol people miss?. It is so sad to see this happen time and time again and no action taken. I feel safe on our streets in Canada – I don't know that you would be able to say the same walking down the streets in the USA.
HEY PIER IF YOU LIKE BRITIANS GUN LAWS SO MUCH,...GO BACK THERE,.WE NEVER ASKED FOR YOUR LAWS OR OPINIONS
Tom, Piers does not need to go go back to his country, but let me tell that if you don't know what you talking about because nothing happened to your family or relative. Let me tell you US has lost 9484 lives in gun violence this year so far.If you love gun go and protect your country against US enemy, why don't you join in army? Go kill enemy who wants to kill us citizens. If you don't know what you talking, shut you mouth.
I agree whole heartly. Send him back. When some one has it in there mind to kill some there is nothing to do. Even if u take away the guns they will still find a way. Ask the taliban. They cab always make bombs or use other weapons
I wonder what this man you have on would say if it one of his own!!!!!! Give your head a shake sir .if this is not the biggest wake up call for America I don't know what it is. I. Am glad I live in Canada .......yes we have our own set of problems but my God I am not afraid to go to a mall a movie theatre thinking that everyone one is packing a gun.
This is a horrible tragedy that would have happened no matter what gun control laws were in place. This show is a very clear depiction on just how Liberally-biased this news station is. I don't even believe that there are any firm details to state that the killer actually used the .223, as he carried two other weapons. Right now, I think people need to take time to grieve and then settle down and have a logical conversation about guns. Above all, Piers needs to stay off of his personal agenda and conduct a professional, unbiased interview.
"Having a logical discussion about Guns" only works if the end result is a Bill or other legislation whose end result will protect the innocent of this nation from gun violence .... the status quo is no longer acceptable.
We know what the status quo means: next year, or the year after, or the year after that we are doomed to repeat the lessons of Columbine, Newtown, Aurora, VA tech ... how many innocent dead students does it take before we finally learn this lesson?
After watching Piers Morgan tonight, I can say it will be the last time. If you listen carefully to the way Mr Morgan asked his guest, Phillip Van Cleave about his comments to an interview he gave about firearms, it was clear Mr Morgan was simply using Mr Van Cleave as a piñata to take out his hatred on. This is absolutely disgusting. Mr Van Cleave was a Deputy Sheriff. This is no way to treat someone who has served his community.
Yes, we are all heartbroken by what happened in Connecticut. I personally welcome a real conversation about firearms in the US. But it should be no surprise that anyone who supports gun ownership will not believe that this conversation will actually happen given the way Mr Morgan treated his "guest".
Seriously...there are literally millions of these types of weapons within this country...there's no way you'll every get them off the streets.
Honestly...imagine what the scene would have been if a shotgun was used???????? Collateral damage beyond all belief...it's the people that pull the trigger...no need to penalize the rest of America.
E... people will stop the maniac before he reload??
Normal shotgun hold six shells...easily take out 8-10 people...if not more. It's not about the assualt rifle...it's about the guy who is pulling the trigger...
So you're suggesting we do nothing?? ... throw in the towel, we can't do anything about it, we'll just have to keep burying our Jack Pinto's, Noah Pozner's, Emilie Parker's, Olivia Engel's, Victoria Soto's year after year because there is nothing we can do? We should just surrender the immortal soul of our nation to the Gun Lobby, the NRA, and the Gun-Lovers of this nation?? ... if that's your position then I feel truly sad.
... I will say that your position is not my position, and I'm happy to so differ.
Go Piers!! Finally someone willing to stand up to the ignorant uncaring individuals like the man on his show!! GO Piers!!!
So, so Ditto. Keep chipping away at their foolish & harmful logic, Piers!
Piers Morgan, Will no longer watch you or CNN after the BS way you treated your guest who only told the truth trying to answer your leading questions.
The guns were legally bought and registered by the IDIOT shooter's mother, who should have had him committed long ago. As your guest said, people driving cars kill more people than are killed in our country by guns.
CNN should drop you for such behavior toward an invited guest.!! Bye Bye Piers & CNN. Don't need to be lectured by a foreigner about my 2nd amendment right to bear arms.
Truth hurts I guess. Grow up
How can anyone LOVE a gun!
I agree that we should not only look at the culture of gun voilence in this country but also the part that mental health plays in these tragedies, the first people we should check on are NRA members and people that suggest they love guns and they are fun.......oh yes and compare Automatic weapons to Ferraries..........
first of all that (idiot) you are referring to has been shot by her own son,....we dont know the reasons why she bought the guns but she did.....if you are so defensive of other americans owning a gun then why cant she have one?? because of what her son did...how could she know?? do you think if she did she would not have prevented this tradgedy and gotten rid of the guns?? if you had a son that was mentally ill you may not be so quick to judge. instead of talking about protecting the guns everyone cherishes so much over school children apparently...why dont we just come up with compronmises, ,,,just talk about solutions in mental health etc....instead of insulting eachother,...
I agree the Conneticut shooting is such a tragedy, But i wish Piers Morgan would move back to England where he was most happy with his countrys laws, Can't stand it when a foreigner comes to this country and needs to change our laws, we can do that with out his help,.... Thank you go home Piers
England seems a lot more civilized than the U.S.
Can some one please tell me what the comparison in population is between England & USA. It is more likely to have violent crimes in a country with a population 20 X's larger than another. Only statistics...
Keep it up Piers!! I'm glad you slammed that Philip Van Cleave. What a complete heartless jerk! It's people like that who take our country backwards. It's people like that who bring shame to our country. Thank you Piers!
This is the most pathetic "journalism" I've ever watched on CNN. Piers Morgan is now CNN's BIll O'Reily. Using his air time as a bully pulpit for unfair, unbalanced, time to interrupt, degrade, and talk down to guests I'd guess he promised to give equal time too.
Piers... You sound like a pathic little whining baby who's got his knickers in bunch with anyone who disagrees with you.
Why do you watch his show since you are so critical of him?
Thank you Piers Morgan for speaking your mind. Someone from outside needs to put some sense into this madness. I just don't understand the fascination with guns in this country. Military style guns should stay with military. One only needs a gun with 2 or 3 bullets to defend.
Those of us pushing for gun control are not the ones being emotional. All you have to do is look at the facts and see it makes zero sense for anyone to believe they "deserve" to have an assault weapon.
Thank you Piers for taking a stand on gun control. You are absolutely right! We should be ashamed as a country to have so many gun related murders. It is ridiculous! There is no reason the general public should have the right to assault weapons. Keep up the fight Peirs
I agree 100%
As a fan of CNN, I have to say I have grown tired of Mr. Morgan raising his voice in the process of bashing his guests. It has gotten old and has especially shown its face in these gun control debates. He comes across as too arrogant for me. So now I will exercise my right as an American and use the remote control. In the meantime perhaps Mr. Morgan should tell us why he is in America? Does it have to do with money or what? Oh well, I have an hour to waste before re-tuning to Mr. Cooper.
I am glad to see I am not alone.
Morgan = twit
Yes, Adam you are not alone. Forget the issue of gun control. I am just tired of Mr. Morgan getting so arrogant and nasty with his guests. He most definitely is not a pro, and it seems he really proves that just about every night on his program.
Piers you should be ashamed of yourself – exploiting this tragedy to push your agenda! You are playing into people's emotions and feelings to remove their rational thinking! Guns are not the problem. 911 had nothing to do with guns – that took out more people than any event in recent history. The terrorist attacks prove that guns are not necessary to achieve the same kind of terror. Go ahead – disarm the nation and the next super genius kid with social disorders will simply build a bomb instead of using a gun. You interviewed that guy and kept saying that gun rights activists are the problem – he pointed out he worked in law enforcement unlike you Piers Morgan. I was appalled how you railroaded through him on national TV and implied he did not care about those children. You became very agressive and unprofessional and as a so called journalist and TV personality you should maintained your composure no matter what your views are, I don't tune into CNN to know what Piers Morgans deep personal feelings are – frankly I could care less – what I expect from a so called network is high level reporting that is neutral and not tainted with your anti-gun agenda. Any dim witted twit knows that people kill people and gun laws only work for the LAW ABIDING. I am done watching your mug on TV and you will never fill one of Larry's shoes. England didn't want you and neither does North America.
America was warned about 9/11 by many Countries.
Cannot believe the level if fear I see in your post !!!' You compare 911 to sandy hook to defend your love for guns? Not cool. Pierce Morgan is one the most intellectual tv hosts on cable network !!!! He has no fear to redicule people who have rediculous ideas and that is what a good host does !
I cannot believe people can come up and say semi automatic weapons are like farraris and since they bring joy to life, they should never be taken away as it will be against freedom, and no gun enthusiastic should be punished by a single maniac's action. With this philosophy, I guess nobody should be banned to possess nuclear weapon. Because most of us will be sensible enough not to blow it. Keep to fight for us, Pierce. Really appreciate it.
If you watched the interview carefully you would have understood that Piers was taking that guys comments out of context.
When Piers guest was asked those questions it was under a separate interview – totally different context – and had nothing to do with the recent shooting. Piers USED this as he always does so he can push his Agenda.
I can understand the urgency for weapon control, but, you are burying the issue that the state government in CT closed all their mental health hospitals and left the care of said patients to relatives of the patients. Shame on you Piers for pushing your gun control agenda and not giving equal passion regarding the mental health issue in our country.
The issue is not guns.
The issue is mental illlness and lack of proper resources.
It is know this man was unstable. It is known he had a history ( one can only wonder why his mother kept guns in the house ).
State and Federal government need to be called to task for closing State and Federal Mental Hospitals in the 1980's.
Families have no options. The police won't do anything until after a tragic and preventable disaster.
Hospitals won't hold them more than the few days allowed, and aren't equipped for this long term problem.
The Founding Fathers gave the right to bear arms for very good reasons. Read your history.
If you think it cannot happen again you are naive.
Piers Morgan is my HERO. Please do not let this issue go by away. All of these people who want their assault riffles should take them go live in one state together and LEAVE OUR CHILDREN OUT OF IT. Our children deserve to get to live in a world without the weapons of War! Our civilized society DOES NOT NEED ASSAULT RIFFLES! Why is that so hard to understand? It does not matter if we have mental ill people or not! Those weapons DO NOT BELONG IN THE HANDS OF ANY REGULAR CITIZEN. There is NO rational reason to own a gun like that. THANK YOU PIERS MORGAN. I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT LET GO OF THIS ISSUE. There are so many americans that need you to contiue to be their voice...old and young alike. Only the ignorant seem to yell the loudest. Don let the victims voices be drowned out. God Bless you!
Thank you, Piers, for standing up to these idiots regarding assult weapons. NO ONE IN THE US needs to have one. Mr Morgan, you are on the right road along with Diane Feinstein. I hope other politicians follow suit.
What would Mr Morgan have to say if Adam Lanza had taken his mother's car and run over 20 children waiting at a buss stop? He is upset with the way that we do things in the US, he needs to head back to the UK. Banning a certain class of weapon means that the criminals will have a semi-automatic weapon to commit their crimes and the everyday American will not have an equal weapon to defend themselves. The Second Amendment guarantees the right to bare firearms. It does not discriminate against any particular type and it is not the governments job to do that. This country needs to provide better support to families who have mentally disturbed members. The law enforcement's hands are tied to help a parent when they fear their child, spouse, or sibling. They have to wait until the person has committed a crime. The schools need to allow God back into the classroom so kindness and tolerance can be taught.
Australia may not have had another school shooting but their crime rate has continued to increase since their gun control laws have changed.
Continue the fight for US and World "weapons" control.
You are the voice of humanity for the world.
Please continue and expand with the platform beset upon you.
Few of us on this earth, throughout time, have had the chance to change mankind.
Please help us all in making this change.
So...let's just hand over our guns...then...to prevent drunk driving deaths...we'll just hand over our cars....so forth and so on. Where will it end????????
Sacrifice freedoms for security and you will end up with neither. People who fight to maintain their freedoms are victimized by people like Piers and ambushed on TV and made to look as though they don't care about those kids unless we surrender ourselves to the gov't.
Pat, Do you have kids? The least of remorse on what you hear over all the news stations for the past couple days? I don't get it. The most gain you guys can get off of it that I could've thought of is economic. So, let's just stay on that note, you profit while we pay for the relieves? How much can you make off of one 6-year-old's life? Times 20
Yes...4 children. I'm not saying what happened is "OK"...I'm saying guns are a part of our culture. I own assualt rifles, semi-automatic handguns and a revolver. If it's not a gun it's something else that causes these types of tragedies. Someone has to set these acts in motion...guns don't kill people...people kill people.
It's reassuring to hear that. I understand, like if you've got a Ferrari, or a couple them, it's almost insane to ask you to give it up. But they enables killing, mass killing. All the discussion about the crime rate associated with banning weapons missed the point, it's means of doing massive damage we're allowing. We'll always have dark sides in our nature, as human, but we can do our best to prevent tragedy. Once again, with all due respect Pat, put yourself in Nancy Lanza's shoes, hope you'll understand.
Pat. Your reply is cowardly.
Assuming gun control is put in place, there are 300 Million guns in circulation. How soon do we expect the restriction to have any sensible effect on these murders.
Is gun control alone going to solve the problem...I don't think so
Like your guest just said, "Scream it from the hills" Piers. You are screaming for me and for my loss of a loved one to gun violence 30 years ago.
Thank you Piers... I commend you for this powerful stand you are taking for gun reform... Keep up the great work!
HOW ABOUT HAVING VICTIMS ON THE SHOW THAT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES WITH FIREARMS AGAINST CRAZED PEOPLE IN THERE LIVES.
thats not news worthy, it isnt something that they (Media) can exploit....good call though
Piers..Keep showing your anger and frustration regarding banning assault weapons....you can have tremendous impact on the public and on lawmakers. We also need to push for better mental health programs.
LOL!!!!!!! He has ZERO pull on any facet of our country....
Thank you Piers for taking to task the people defending guns with no restrictions. We have laws for the "greater good"(such as car insurance, seat belts, licenses to drive), but allow gun owners unlimited access to all types of guns and ammunition with no regulation or background checks?? This country restricts how much Sudafed you can buy at Walmart, but does not limit how much ammo you can buy???
As a retired military member I can't see why a civilian would need and assault rifle, semi-auto high powered hand guns, or a stock pile of ammo! There is not self-defense situation that would require you to fire 100 rounds-ever! These weapons are for military use to kill in large numbers and that's it, they have no other use!
I"m amazed at how many narrow minded people have posted here tonight about Piers having an opinion on how things are done in the USA. Have you people looked around? THE WORLD thinks you've got it WRONG!!!!! Get over yourselves and get your heads out of your.......
20 small children were slaughtered because of the stupid politics around your gun laws. And to say that gun control hasn't worked anywhere else? Do you homeowork people.
And what happens if he runs over 20 kids at a bus stop??? We throw our cars away???? Where does it stop?
Pat. Be realistic. He used a gun; not a car. The massive shootings have occurred indoors.
Do your homework !!!!!!! Gun control in the UK and Australia, great idea, do some research , gun related crimes have increased at an astounding rate!!!! Homework!!!!
Joe...there are over 300 million weapons in our country...do really think people will just hand over their guns??? Really???
The nation-in collective remorse about the Sandy Hook tragedy. (With all due respect) On forums like these-persons defending a weapon industry... Do we not see a problem? We don't have to blame an violent incident; we can try to stop them by reduce violence, in every angle frankly.
Piers you are incredibly pompous as a Brit to come here and dictate amendment rights to Americans. We threw your country out a long time ago for that very thing. But wait, it is clear we are still a part of the Empire, as our former President went and bowed to her "Majesty". In light of the fact that this is a horrible tragedy and a compassionate person naturally feels sorry for both the dead and their families, it does not include all Americans. The 2nd Amendment is there to protect us from all forms of tyranny. The Senator's remarks about its contextualization are spurious. I see the Bill of Rights as progressive, not outdated. No one person has the right to change it according to their predilections or ideas. We are a Democracy. This is why we elect Congressman. Please discontinue the argument that guns kill people. People kill people and if they are crazy enough, theyll find a way. It is a fact of life and if we get to the deeper issue, we need to confront our own hypocrisy first. I respect peoples rights to hold fire arms and lets not forget what the old man in Florida did in the internet cafe. He was carrying a firearm and for that he saved a lot of lives. Further, what about the 176 Pakistani children killed by US Drones? I do not see the President shedding a tear for them.
Piers has more guts than most of our American commentators to take a stand and beat down the liars and merchants of death. Yes he may be British..and he still cares.. what about that? And he is right! I Say BRAVO PIERS!!!
Do we need stricker gun control? Yes. Is that the answers to all of our problems? No. If a crazy person wants to cause harm, they don't need a gun to do it. The problem isn't the gun. The problem is the sick person pulling the trigger. We need to be more careful of what the young people in our society are putting into their heads. We need to stop promoting violence as an acceptable form of entertainment. If we don't want our kids to think violence is fun, then why are there so many violent video games? We need to get violence out of our video games and taken off our televisions. If you are looking for violent ideas, you needn't look any further than the television set in your livingroom.
Bravo PIers. Don't let up the pressure. Unlike others, you're direct questions are what must be done and heard by everyone. Semi-automatics are the cause and your voice can help stop the killings. You make all of us very proud.
Piers, I applaud you on this issue & the way you're showing up Van Cleave is spectacular; he is blaming everything & everyone for this obscene act except those that are really responsible like the organization he represents....& I also think he thinks he's Van Cleave of the Spaghetti Westerns where you shoot people and they all get up at the end of the movie & live on to star in the next one. Don't give up on this Piers, & could I suggest you get some of the big names you get on your show to start a campaign against these killer automatics...that do most of the damage/hurt/death, to people throughout the US every year!
Those children who have survived will be suffering for maybe the rest of their lives; & they too have lost their childhood's last Friday by the sights & sounds they have seen & heard. It"s so sad & it should be everyone's role even to go as far as marching to your Legislature's & march till they stop this pure madness of allowing weapons like this to be bought & used freely without a thought of the damage they have done & will do in the future, in the country that is supposed to be the most democratic country in the world, if this is not addressed to properly. Children don't seem to have any rights when it comes to guns & automatic weapons, they don't understand the childishness of the adults who have to still be playing Cowboys & Indians as adults, but with real "Lethal Weapons. I was even told you can buy the bullets for these & all guns/rifles in the supermarkets there – with a ease like if you were buying sweets. The NRA especially should be ashamed of themselves, & should be held responsible for all future deaths from automatic weapons, seeing that they still think guns are "Toys"!!!!
Wait a minute, I just heard a Ferrari comparison in sport vehicle to assault rifles? Seriously Philip? People who entertains themselves with skiing, and the worse that could have happened to them is hit a tree and die (with all due respect to those tragedies happened in 2012); people who entertain themselves with Ferrari or a Lambo at most destroy a couple of million dollar metals and gave their lives being irresponsible (and please remember, those tho can afford these entertainments are rich and most likely not insane; People who you, van Cleave, think you're protecting the rights for, play with killing tools designed to satisfy one of the dark side of human nature, violence. And history proves the evil and unspeakable horrors that this "entertainment" is capable to bring to our wonderful society.
Guns are "fun" seriously? In the 50s you were playing with hunting rifles. Now the media and games made available to our teenagers and even 5-6 year-old (you shouldn't be surprised) are teaching them the power and the "fun" of automatic weapons. Don't believe me? ask your 10-year-old young boy what's a "head shot". Trust me he knows. I've been watching this tragedy unfolding from the first day, I'm just amazed why in the wonderful America, we still can't get our head straight and still discuss gun control.... Do we not have enough proof, evidence or sacrifice? or What the heck are we hesitating for? Money made off of selling guns?
Just wasnted to take moment to tell you you should be absolutely ashamed of yourself. How low can you be to bring a person on your show just to attempt to knock them down. And how disgusting that you are gonna use the topic of gun control to pad yuor ratings, you should be ashamed of your self Mr. Morgan. I am a father of two wonderful boys, the same age of those poor children in Newtown and I could not imagine what the families must be feeling right now. But in no way am I shielding my children about firearms. I guess you media folks like sitting on your little soap boxes and do what ever you can to tell it the way you want it heard. I guess bullets just jump out of these weapons for no reason. Be realistic Mr. Morgan, had somebody been armed in Aurora, Newtown, ect., the story would have certainly had a little bit of a different outcome. And in case you are wondering, I am a proud owner of SEVERAL!!!!!! firearms.......and yes one of them is in fact an AR-15.
I have listened to Mr. Piers Morgan long enough criticize our country. The problem at hand with the mass shooting is very complicated and covers several issues in addition to gun control. Mental illness and TV/Media violence, to name a few...I do not hear Mr. Morgan going after Hollywood or exploring the difficult topics of Mental Health as they relate to the shootings. But to listen to Mr. Morgan criticize our country and use this issues to push his agenda ( gun Control) on the American people is offensive at best. It would be one thing if he conducted unbiased interviews that discussed and identified the issues we need to deal with and address to make America a better place, but when it is obvious that he is openly attacking the single issue of gun control and repeatedly attacking our 2nd amendment rights, it becomes unacceptable. Stop telling me how great the British Empire is... if it is that great move on back there! Why is CNN standing by and letting him denigrate our system. I do not own a gun and never have owned a gun. I am not for ownership of semi automatic weapons. I am for open dialog on the issues that will stimulate conversations and potentially identify solutions. But bashing anyone for gun rights is counterproductive. And telling us every 5 minutes about how fantastic and smart the British people are, is a slap in the face....
Shame on you CNN for letting Mr. Morgan go on like this. I hope the short term ratings are worth the loss of moral convictions for your network......At least Larry King appeared to be more objective and sensitive to the issues.
No, it's not a bit complicated, all you have to do is get rid of those war weapon's & start working the brains in your heads (your type, NRA type) who are just letting the deaths of 5/6 year old's go over your heads. It's not complicated one bit, now act like you have a few brains in your gunfire "Heads"!"
Open your eyes, you are all focusing on the wrong things, based on emotional reactions. Newtown had a ban on these weapons, the weapon was still there. The problem is, as Sanjay Gupta said "every shooter in a mass shooting has been on a Prescribed Psychtrophic drug or an Antidepressant " and now 1 in 5 kids have a mental illness. To only blame it on the gun is wrong there more components to this problem. The biggest component and keeps being over looked is the medications , when the drug has a black box warning may cause hallucinations, and suicidal thoughts, there is a problem with the drug. Piers needs focus on this but no one will because the pharmacetical companies have to much power. Piers needs to go home.
Piers NEEDS this is right. Its so OBVIOUS that he is working for the controllers.
Yeah, no kidding! Set him up with staged questions just so he can run off at the mouth! Yes Brittan banned firearms, guess what, home invasions went up because no one was armed! GOOD IDEA!!!!
while attension should be paid on an ongoing basis most of these drugs help people to function. and i dont have a study but i will bet that with all of the people on phsyc medication these incedents are prob1-100000 or more. And the warning of suicide wow you think a child with mental illness might have an increased chance of it. This iss another symptem of whats wrong the stygma accosiated with mental illness oh BTW president lincold suffered from sever deppression it was a struggle for him
ment Lincoln. and very much there needs to be regular follow up esspesially if prescribed medication. Unforunetly our mental health system sucks big time and the # 1 priority. Unfortunetly its easy to say lets ban guns harder to say we need to send 600 billion to address the mental heath system. One example of this is the anrea Yates story she was having hallusinations thought the devil was corupting her children. they released her even tough she was saying she needed to send her children to heaven. she went home waited till the next day and drowned her children. Thats your current mental health system
Keep it up, Piers. This isn't about Second Amendment rights, it's about the safety of all Americans. The arguments about people protecting themselves against crazies are statistically false. Only military and law enforcement need assault weapons or large clips.
Oh man oh man, seeing all these emotional reactions stating Peirs is a HERO...o my...people you need to get a grip.
This was a HORRIBLE tragedy and its extremely painful for everyone but you can't let you brains fall out of your heads either. Piers is no damn hero – gross. He has an agenda – everytime there is a tragedy he is pushing the gun control – one brain cell should be enough to know that guns don't make decisions – people do. I hear him in the background stating what kind of guns people 'need' or don't 'need.' What happened to reporting! My god. And stop calling this guy a hero – makes me sick.
The 2nd ammendment gives us the right to bear arms. When our forefathers wrote that , arms were single shot weapons. Let the people have their arms but the guns would have to be one shot only. Maybe make an exception for police?
They also had cannons and slaves
@JB- Couldn't agree more. Maybe Mr. Morgan should move back to the U.K. Where he could enjoy the oppressive laws that made his not so distant relatives, hop a boat and sail to America.
Go Mrs. Feinstein and Piers!!! I know you and President Obama can do this Mrs. Feinstein. Thank you.
I agree with the part that their is no reason why anyone needs to own a assault rifle for personal reasons. I have been in law enforcement for 23 years, 20 of those for a college. We are out gunned and out man'd. Budget cuts are killing us and our department is the first to suffer (we need a pretty campus first ). We have one assault rifle for a campus of 3000 students and 600 employees. We train and are expected to go into a active shooter incident with one rifle and 2 officers on shift ( we usually only have 2 per shift ). Yes we carry handguns on us. Assault rifles are used for one thing, to kill quickly, effectively, and in mass, they should only remain in the hands of law enforcement and military. The gentleman who said people own them because it's fun to shoot one, REALLY !!!
is youre assault rifle police grade? if so you use a more powerful weapon than the cilvilian model. If not you should be trained on the proper use of even that. is it 5.56 or larger cal. A 5.56 should never i repeat never use a high capasity more than 20 rounds. And for youre safty should never be used in rapid fire. Thats just how they where designed in fact this is so because the mil ploice versoins do not have automatic select changed to 3 round burst
Yes, I'm Canadian,
Also of UK heritage and family military career.
They are called "weapons " not guns in the military for a reason.
"Weapons" are used in war, guns are used by civilians to kill each other.
Keep on with this subject, Maybe, just maybe somebody will listen. It is time the do.
In 2011 there were 13000 people killed by drunk drivers in the U.S. Compared to 9000 murders by guns in the U. S.. Maybe we should ban liquor. Piers should go back to England, because we don't want him here
& Al? Would you go around drink-driving? Yes, drivers who drive around drunk are using their cars as if they were guns...because they could kill someone. The sentences should be very heavy fines & long term prison for drunk driving. We can't control all the people who go for a drink & then drive their cars, but we can stop guns from being obtained too easily & without checks. And the sale of automatic could be banned in the morning if legislators were willg to do the right & moral thing. One day more not doing so, is one day too many.
Before anyone accuses me of being a blleding heart liberal let me say; I am a Marine Corps combat veteran. I have fired both an M-16 and M-60 machine gun in combat. I fired many other weapons in training. These weapons are designed soleyly for the purpose of killing other human beings. Only military personnel need to have these weapons. Handguns are only good for killing other human beings. We don't need these as well. I can protect my home with a shotgun if I think I need one. Single shot breach loaded weapons are enough to hunt with. Those are the ONLY weapons people need to own and ONLY after 100% backround checks and mental evaluations. Even that won't end the violence but it WILL reduce it.
Check your facts. The worst case of school mass murder in US history, occured at an elementary school in the city of Bath Michigan, in 1927. A 55 year old, part time civil servant/farmer comitted the crime which killed 48 (mostly children) and wounded 58.
BTW – British armed forces have been responsible for the enslavement and killing of millions of persons while enforcing (with guns) their colonial control. If you think Great Britain is so wonderful, please go home, (or to Canada).
Comparison of British colonial rule during the colonial era of the 16 to 1800s is no more relevant to the discussion of Gun control in america in the 21st century as is a discussion of the US government treatment of the Indigenous North American peoples during the same period.
Four mass shootings in 4 years........... Well I guess if I just give up my guns then the crooks are going to just hand theirs over. Thats why they are called CROOKS!!!!!!!!!! Wake up folks, guns are just as safe as anything else in the hands of a MENTALLY STABLE, RESPONSIBLE person. Y'all should try target shooting sometime....very theraputic.
Vince...you're an "Omadawn"!
Look up Irish slang...if you don't know the meaning of word...I used this word out of kindness...I could have used a much telling one!
Awesome, your shellacking of the pro-assault-gun commentator was right on. I agree 100% with Senator Feinstein in that the needs of the many absolutely must outweigh the desires of the few as they apply to the 2nd amendment, now, in the post-Shady-Hook era.
I am a honorably discharged marine reservist and I am 100% behind any Bill or measure that needs to be implemented in order to make our country safe with regards to Guns, even (to the extent of) modifying the second amendment, which is obsolete, having been passed in 1791 during a completely different historical epoch of our nation. I've been shocked, disgusted, horrified, and saddened by the murder of 20 6&7 year old children who had their whole lives ahead of them, as well as that of the 6 heroic teachers & administrators who sacrificed their lives to save them.
The other night I spent 8 hours writing to my congressmen and to the President. I've never written to any politician before in my life on any other matter, but I've never felt so moved by anything as I have by the events of the past 3 days in Connecticut. In my letter, I suggested a new congressional Bill which I named the "Emilie Parker Bill" which is intended to control guns and make our schools safe. I also sent a shortened version as an email to Senator Feinstein, which I'll also copy and paste below ... I absolutely want the congress to do something about the problem of gun violence in this nation; the murder of twenty first grade children is absolutely unacceptable. If there was a pro-gun lobby, or NRA, victory in regards to this matter (i.e. a continuation of the status quo) ... then our nation loses; that would be a disgrace to the innocent people (indeed all people) of our nation and most especially to the memory of the innocent children taken from us (far too soon) from Sandy Hook. President Obama concluded his speech at the the other night at the Newtown prayer vigil: "let us make this country worthy of their memory," I hope that Senator Feinstein & President Obama can rally the congress enough to do just that.
My recommended "Emilie Parker Bill":
1) Increase (all) Firearm Sales Tax by 200%, in a manner similar to the added liquor & tobacco tax, added tax to support one armed security guard per school from K through HS.
2) Increase yearly Gun licensing fees by 200%, similar to above, and universal licensing of all firearm owners. These added tax funds go directly to providing school physical security: bullet proof windows and doors at ground level, outside video surveillance, and alarm systems.
3) Increase tax on ammunition.
4) Immediate passage of the Assault weapon ban.
5) Modification of the 2nd amendment which is now completely obsolete, having been ratified in the year 1791 during a completely different historical epoch of this nation when single-shot muzzle-loading flintlocks were the technology of the time and not semi-automatic, high velocity assault rifles with multiple XX round magazines. The founding fathers could not have foreseen the huge advance in military technology since their time, and the limitations of an obsolete amendment should not be incurred & imposed on Americans of the twenty-first century, thus modify the 2nd amendment appropriately, CHANGE: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” TO “A well regulated national military, reserve military, and national guard is necessary to the security of a free State; the right of the people to keep and bear Arms reasonably shall not be infringed.”
6) “Reasonably” in the above change should include: A) maximum gun # limitations per individual (a woman, or any other person, does not need 7 or more firearms, even soldiers in war are not so armed beyond their primary weapon, a pistol, several magazines, and a couple of grenades). 3 guns at most are a reasonable limitation (shotgun, rifle, pistol). B) mandatory private minimum gun safe stowage rules, including fully locked storage places, to prevent children or any other unauthorized access of private stowage area. C) Appropriate psychiatric and other background checks shall be satisfactorily completed before each firearm purchase. D) This is a list of criteria for those (to define) who may not own firearms.
Applaud, Since there's no like button. Personally I still don't understand this discussion goes in such length. I'm sure majority of the people got the message already, then why the hesitance?
The intent of the 2nd amendment is to insure that the "people" can forcefully resist an oppressive (i.e. communist, autocratic or facist) government, police and military. I do agree that huge capacity magazines and modern military weapons are absolutely unnecessary in the hands of unregulated citizens.
There are many millions of law abiding owners of firearms in this country, many of us trained in the 60's and 70's by the military. As our history clearly demonstrates it's our national obligation and likely our destiny to be conscribed into service and forced to fight with a gun.
Richard, by taxing us on weapons we can buy legally, that would keep us safe??? HOW?? you are out of your mind...as a Army Vet, i think the criminals are not going to give 2 hoots about a tax. but punish the mass for the few, that didnt work in the Corps did it? it does not work now. make the individual responsable for their actions.
Philip Van Cleave compared guns to vehicles. So maybe we can enact laws that require every single gun to be registered, and each registration to be renewed every year, and every gun owner to go through hours of training, and pass written and practical exams before getting a gun-owner license, and have that same routine every year to be able to renew their gun-owner license, and require every gun to have liability insurance that must be renewed every year.
We can also have an ammunition tax that is a thousand times the price of the ammunition.
We should also require gun manufacturers to come up with weapons and ammunition that can only incapacitate but not kill. WeI don't need to kill someone for self-defense, we only need that someone to not be able to hurt us.
Irene, Very good points you made there, saying we should give them blanks instead of ammunition or we could just hand out rolls of caps for to use in the guns...seeing that your man, "Van Cleave", liked the "Fifties" so much!
mr morgan...... what gives you the right to tell what i can or can't have? im a law a bidding person who owns several guns and so does my son! i was raised up this way and so will my son. you have all these people on the show who are against guns and you let them talk without interuption....but when you get gun people on there they can't talk because of you! you make me sick.....i did watch your show but no more! i would love to be on your show to face you down about this issue....but as i know you would not let me talk! so like i said what gives you the right to tell me what i can or cannot have? you make me sick.....
I agree, just calling people names who are pro-gun is childish. A discussion is between two people, not listening to yourself rant. There is a reason for the second ammendment, or it would have not been written. Triggers do not pull themselves, it takes a person.
I think Obama drives people crazy enough to do this stuff.
I sure hope he succeeds.
Will someone please start asking the gun advocates what they think the phrase "well regulated militia" means? If the second part of the second amendment is sacred then the first part must have some meaning. Was the Newtown shooter part of a well regulated militia? The columbine kids? The Va. Tech shooter? Please make someone explain. Thanks
I am not a Gun advocate, I am in fact pro Gun control. I do know about history. The second amendment was ratified in 1791 shortly after the end of the Revolutionary war in 1783. At that time the continental army was to be reduced, and the defense of the nation would be left mostly to state militias. Read this article for a good explanation:
The bottom line: the second amendment is obsolete. There are no longer "militias" as there was during the time of the founding fathers. We now have a national military, a reserve component, a national guard, and a (state level) police force. And, the type of Guns available in 1791 were muzzle-loading flintlocks. We now have high velocity assault guns with 30 or more clips that were first designed as military weapons in the second world war (the first true assault rifle was the German Sturmgewher 44: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44 ... notice its similarity to the AK47, in fact Mikhail Kalishnikov was a soldier in the red army during WWII and would've had access to the German StG44 captured in final years of WWII http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47 ).
The point of the history lesson was to provide an answer to the original poster's question as well as to underscore this point: It would have been impossible for the founding fathers to predict or foresee the evolution of military weapons design. The amendment was written for a class of weapons that was in its bare infancy ... this *clearly* makes the second amendment OBSOLETE and it needs to be re-written for the 21st century!
I am a retired police officer – people who advocate getting rid of the AR-15 and ignore the glock and sig-sauer handguns need to take their heads out of the sand. At close enough range (like a classroom) the guy at Newtown could have killed just as many children with either pistol. He didn't need the AR-15.
Sorry....I meant to emphasize both handguns are semi-auto
Thank you for your service. But, I think I would rather make an unarmed charge against someone with a hand gun rather than an AR. The capacity and rate of fire of the AR makes it a more effective killing machine. But I would agree that in this case, small children, had litte defense against an AR or hand gun. The killer was very very sick and not sure how to stop someone who is that ill.
I don't ignore anything, and in fact those need to be covered too.
Guns don't kill people, people kill people. When they flew planes into the trade centers and killed inocent people, nobody blamed the airplane nobody banned airplanes. Still hundred of flights daily. Nobody says anything about the video games that teach violence. How about drugs does anyone know if he was on drugs. Antidepressant or illegal. They can all cause this kind of violence.
I hope all standing on the front lines to take guns from good people defending their Holmes and families ar the first into the gas chambers. Like the last who could not defend themselves
Drugs don't kill people, people taking drugs may get killed. So let us legalize all drugs.
Gosh, I guess you're right about the planes and 911. I guess all that extra security, pat downs, fluoroscopes, cameras, more dogs and security personnel are just a jet fuel mirage!
Homeland Security is just another tax burden and assault on law abiding citizens. I personally know people who have accidently gone through their security at airports armed – and not been detected. Kids are still getting on planes undetected. I fly on a private corporate jet for business. Guess what ? They land and take off at a smaller side termi8nal with no Homeland Security checks at all. I wouldn't count on feeling any safer at all. A crook or terrorist would have no trouble at all setting off another bombing disaster.
Correction! People with guns kill people, the two can't be separated & please don't reply that knives can kill people too...for the sames applies to them, also, this is a discussion on guns. Your equation of when planes flew into the Twin Towers that the planes didn't kill people of course they did, the planes done the damage, I mean if the terrorists only flew into the Towers of their own bodily steam they wouldn't have made it very far. Your argument is as silly as silly can be!
Over 40 people a day die from prescription medication prescribed by doctors, over 14,000 a year! What about street drugs, Haroin, meth, pcp? Some of these people have no criminal record and can buy guns, I think we need to drug test gun owners annually along with a proficiency test.
Piers: you are right on point..We have got to do something now...I am truly baffled that anyone would think that it is appropriate to take someone with debilitating mental illness to a gun range and teach them to shoot. When you are living with someone who is mentally ill, all weapons should be off limits Guns require a level of responsibility that many people with mental illness, simply can't adhere to, We are being kind to keep guns out of the hands of those who are unable to comprehend the magnitude of the issue. It is time for everyone to stand up and start a conversation that will focus on keeping all people safe.
To blame this horrible tragedy on the firearms is absolutely insane. It's truly sad that people like you (Piers) and other liberals will use the death of these beautiful children to further your anti-gun agenda. Sad, but not at all surprising. It's well known that the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban had absolutely no impact whatsoever in reducing crime. Nor will any new weapons ban or law. Untill we can figure out a way to ban mental illness, you'll never stop a madman like the one in the Newtown tragedy. Shame on you and those like you for using this unspeakable incident to spread your lies and anti-gun propaganda.
I believe your reporting on the firearm aspect of the Newtown tragedy is inflammatory. You have misstated many facts regarding firearms and indeed assault weapons, hunting rifles and ballistics which illustrates your basic misunderstanding of firearms. If your intent is to place the blame on assault weapons, please report the facts correctly.
These comments are in no way meant to detract from the horrific nature of this tragedy.
USA..HELL YEAH!! Lunatics. One of the most retarded comments came from some idiot who said Sandy Hook wouldn’t have happened if gun control was lighter. You moron. I’m not anti-guns but they should only be used for legitimate war (if there is such a thing) and hunting. It's simple, if you have easy access to guns, people will be murdered. The right to bear arms is a nice sentiment but when there are millions of unstable people in the world, that right must be put aside, as most civilised countries in the world have done. Unfortunately it's too late for the US to turn around. And don't throw the argument up that the 'bad' people will get the guns illegally anyway..of course they will, but the level of gun crime and innocent people losing their lives will be minimal compared to what is occurring now.
And Phil Kline, I'm specifically referring to assalut type guns
Then you may as well ban cars too because a car in the hands of a mentally ill person can do as much damage or worse. How about kitchen knives? How about baseball bats? Where do we draw the line? We have to address the source of the issue and as long as we keep sticking our heads in the sand, nothing will get done.
First off my condolences to the famlies and friends of the victims, may they rest in peace. Unfortunately we do not live in a utopian country, like Piers thinks the U.K. is. To confiscate the firearms in this country will again unfortunately lead to more bloodshed as people believe that owning firearms is thier last stand against a tyrannical government and a perverse crime ridden society. We should have the right to protect ourselves, but I also feel that gun owners should bear more responsibility to there guns. A gun can sit on stump for years and not kill a living thing, it takes a person to pull the trigger. 40 people a day die from prescription medication overdose, that is 14,000 people a year from what doctors prescribe. What about herion, PCP, meth? To own a firearm should also involve a drug test and a proficiency test annually. All gun owners should own safes and manage thier firearms to full responsibility of the law and be held liable for thier guns. Like Obama said, our children come first, be safe America.
Agreed. But there are so many millions of guns in the US it'll take years to see any definite turnaround in these types of crimes. The US have dug their own senseless graves.
You call America a true democracy, where people can kill children freely, where the president is hopeless, hapless, and helpless against it!
America is a republic, not a democracy. Really, where do you people come from. Huge difference between the two. Read up on it and then write an intelligent post.
PLEASE READ! JUST THE FACTS!
I am not in favor of assualt weapons nor large clips of ammunition but we need to look at the whole picture. The issue is not the guns, had the CT shooter only had pistols he could have done just as much damage. These children were shot 3 to 11 times each, a 22 caliber would kill with that many bullets. The real issue is people who are not mentally stable getting access to the weapons. Please read the facts below to understand that this shooting could not have been prevented by simply tough gun laws.
– FIRST – The state of CT has prohibited the owning, sale or purcahse of assualt rifles since 1993. This include the bushmaster that was used . See below...
In 1993, the legislature prohibited possessing, selling, or transporting assault weapons, with limited exceptions. The 1993 act also gave those who lawfully possessed an assault weapon before October 1, 1993, nine months to apply for a certificate of possession to continue to possess the weapon. The act made a number of other changes regarding assault weapons (PA 93-306).
-SECOND- Federal law prohibits anyone under 21 from owning a pistol like the 2 found on the shooter.
So in this case all the current gun laws were broken! The shooter did not care and nothing would have prevented this because his mother was the gun purchaser and she would have passed any background check.
These horrible events can only stop when we start to identify those who are unstable and kept from harming others in the community. It does not take a gun to kill, in OK it only took fertillizer and fuel oil. We can take the ASR's off the shelves, limit clip capacity but if we allow someone mentally ill to go without proper treatment then no amount of gun laws will matter. In todays world we can only try and be proactive which will include thorough back ground checks, taking ASR's off the shelves and allowing parents and family to take action when they feel a loved one is having issues.
Sorry Neal but you're wrong. The guns were accessible to this person becuase of wherever they were located in the house. If they were in a locked safe he may not have been able to access them. If the mother was not able to buy an assault rifle it's most likely nit all these people would have died. Mental illness is no worse in the US than any other civilised country in the world, the only difference is...easier access to thse types of guns. When are you people going to wake up.
Right on the Mark, society today lives in the world for Me, Myself and I, I am so sick of hearing the 'gun doesnt kill people' quote. Six year old children see the world as good, why cant we think about them instead of my right to own a gun, me, me, me, me, the people that dont want a change and make some good happen in the world are selfish.
I am a hunter and love my guns. I do not own an "AR assault rifle", but would agree they are fun to shoot. BUT, I am willing to sacrifice this fun if it would reduce the number of killings associated with these weapons. These weapons really are designed for one purpose and they are quite effective. The victims in these tragic killing just never had a chance. Should everyone pack some heat when they go to a movie or school? Not a bad idea, but not practical.
This is really about the $$$$$$$$$. The gun lobby is so powerful, but this may bring some sanity back into what the 2nd Amendment protects.
The thing that make this country great, FREEDOM, also allows tragic events to happen. What freedoms are we willing to sacrifice to keep others safe? This is a problem with Americans, we want everyone else to sacrifice. Hey Im' all for more law and order as long as it has no impact to me or my pocketbook.
Pierce, thanks for good coverage and for speaking truth to the people. This craze has to end. Now.
You were AWESOME, tonight, Piers! You are the MAN! Go, Piers, Go!
Mr. Morgan are you are journalist or a carnival barker? Unlike your home country we let people that we disagree with complete their thoughts before we retort. I think that your thoughts on gun control are sign of being scared of them and not rational thought. However unlike you most gun owners would at least let you finish your thought before we respond. It just shows that the apple did not fall too far from the posioned tree of the Mirror eh!
discussion what i am hearing from three days are pretty worthwhile and positive regarding control of fatal gun violence that ruined the american sprit.deep soul condolences to the victims and theirs near and dear .to stop such henious incidents to happend again, initial three steps are to be taken;
1.educate american people about the mental health cure,work out to provide free counciling and treatment to this disease.
2.come all american togather on moral ground to ban assult weapons like AR 15 and many automatic and semi automatic weopens capable of mass killing.(limit them to police and force)
3.law should have certain sanctions on creation of violent vedio game programmes and flims
YOU SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED ON THE AIR PIER,i HOPE AND PRAY TO GOD THEY PULL YOUR SHOW.
Bill, I hope & pray you & your gun frenzy friends get banned as soon as possible; from ever again being able to pull your guns from your "Holsters"!
That sounds like a threat Jaker. How ironic.
If you think anybody is going to turn them in, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
The conversation matters. I value piers's passion and agree with his views on gun control. However, the shouting, talking over and disrespect of all the pro-gun guests is over the top, arrogant and counter productive. Piers, you are creating a platform to shape the conversation, but your domination and badgering doesn't help advance the cause, will keep the likes of the NRA away and tempts me to switch the channel. I want to hear the pro-gun commentary and then have your team expose the truth in an election-style "fact check."
I agree that he needs to let the other side talk. In the interest of full disclosure I believe Mr. Morgan is a dolt when it comes to this issue and cannot/will not try to see the other side of the issue. With all of his ranting he is missing the point that guns save lives as well. Perhaps if he were not shouting down his guests he would learn that?
Sorry it seems like you do need outside help as usual on this topic, your living in the past which for most civilized countries is a fairly young past 250 years or so perhaps this is why your so immature on the subject.
Lets give everyone a free horse and cowboy boots with their next gun purchase and an autographed t shirt from John Wayne
You have stood still on this archaic second amendment too long of course you need help!
If you are offering to help, hop on a plane and come on over, Mr. nosy. Maybe you can be the 1st one to walk onto somebodies farm or ranch and demand their guns. I am almost sure they will willing hand them over to a more civilized, pompous, arrogant a#$hole like you. Then again, I could be wrong.
It's easy to agree with the argument you are trying to make, especially at a tragic time like this. However, you are oversimplifying the problem, and have completely made it one-dimensional. So, here is my first request. Propose a solution, and make it detailed for everyone to support. Simply calling for a ban on a particular weapon is ignorant and unproductive in it's attempt to prevent another one of these national tragedies from occurring again. Remember, cocaine and meth are illegal in this country, but hundreds of thousands are affected every year in the US by these drugs. Billions have been spent to stop illegal drugs, and thousands are harmed every year regardless. Simply outlawing a particular weapon would not curtail the epidemic of gun violence in the US, nor prevent another mass shooting of innocent children. The solution will need to involve a collection of the following:
– More complete background checks for gun purchases / ownership.
– Evaluating the past AWB, and determining if there was a positive trend in overall violent crime, especially focusing on the multiple victim crimes as a separate data point. If it shows outlawing high capacity magazines is effective, re-implement.
– Focusing citizens of the United States on the negative social trends in our country. Why are young teens in Chicago so eager to shoot and kill other young teens without remorse? Families need to focus on values. It's important!
– As discussed the past few days, identifying and providing quality care for those that suffer from mental illness. Anyone willing to murder innocent children is in need of extensive help before their mind ever gets that far gone.
– Media coverage. No-one who is responsible for these heinous acts, ever, should have their name mentioned in a news report. I've seen CNN list the names of the past murderers on numerous occasions this weekend, giving them more and more immortality to those who are as disturbed and cowardly as they are.
– Re-classifying certain weapons in the United States, curtailing access. If a civilian would like to buy an AR-15, at a minimum, extensive training and licensing will be required.
– Lastly, deterrents in place where our most precious children are cared for. I'm not claiming that a teacher with a gun would have stopped this, but it is something that should be reviewed. Perhaps a couple of well trained individuals per school.
I make these comments as someone who owns multiple firearms, and has enjoyed the shooting sports for many years. I've never been a strong supporter of our current President, however, he was exactly correct in his statement the other night. We owe it to our children, that we must try to make things better. My young twins are not even 3 years old, and I shed plenty of tears this weekend for those families who lost their young angels. We have to take steps to prevent something like this from ever happening again. But, it's not as simple as placing blame. Multiple steps must be taken.
Shooting at a range, at harmless targets, can be a very enjoyable sport. It is a visual and audible stimuli, in some ways like watching a fireworks display. Endorphines are released in the brain, creating an enjoyment for the participants. After a tragedy like the on on 12/14, it seems cold and incomprehensible to see it that way. The last time my friends and I went to the range, it was a great time. That was pre 12/14/12. I imagine the next time I go to the range, I will likely be more reflective on the consequences of what can happen when guns are in the wrong hands.
Please help make this a productive solution and stop yelling at those that disagree with you. Respect their right to an opinion, or go join one of the other hack news channels. I would be happy to discuss and support your cause, but let's do it in a positive way. At the very least, those loving souls lost last Friday deserve that from those of us having never endured such horror.
I understand Piers Morgan's point of view regarding gun control but if he chooses to have guests who are not in favor of gun control, then he needs to let them say what their beliefs are without him being rude just because he doesn't agree with them. I am a legal gun owner and was saving up for an AR-15, but after hearing all of the people wanting to ban these types of weapons, I feel like I need to purchase it now before they become illegal or ban high-capacity magazines. I equate firearms to vehicles and assault rifles like a high-end sports car. In the hands of a deranged person or reckless person, they will hurt themselves and others. The bottom line is that we need to address and exercise more control on who we sell these firearms to. Background checks are fine but to disqualify someone based on mental state is a tough one to enforce. Regardless, Piers Morgan needs to be unbiased on his show when it comes to this topic. It really frustrates me and I end up changing channels.
You hit the nail on the head. I just got back from a gun shop two hours ago, the AR15's are flying off the wall! Buy lower recievers, they are around $100 so with what you saved, buy several before a ban. But also be vigilent in who has access to your guns, please keep them safe and locked up.
I strongly disagree. No person in the world needs a semi automatic gun, no one except maybe military people. I implore anyone to give a good reason that anybody other than military needs one of these type guns. It too disgusts me as it does Piers, that anyone can equate one of these guns with a high end automobile. Also as to background checks, this latest incident in Newtown would have happened with even the best background check because the gun belonged t his mother. Don't you people get it. Children are being killed and all you want is your fun gun. Who's crazy?
I wanted to make sure you do understand the difference between semi automatic and automatic. First no civilian is allowed to own an automatic weapon leagally unless they are a historical collector and they are thoroughly screened. Second, if you ban semi automatic weapons then you will remove some shot guns, most pistols and any number of rifles. I own a 22 caliber rifle that I teach my boys to shoot with and its semi automatic. Semi automatic means one trigger pull yields one bullet which discharges and loads another. Thats it, nothing like automatic...
Thanks for being a spokesperson for the majority of the country!!! It is kind of ironic that someone who is not even an American citizen is helping to lead this much need discussion. We need bans on assault weapons to be put into action immediately. Then we need to take a hard look on how we deal with mental illness in our country and how to stop the national obsession with violence.
Why is the blame quickly placed on the instrument and not the evil operator behind it and our disintegrating morality as a nation? Piers, politicians, and most of the commenters here have not a clue! They simply emotionally react and stroke each others fears by demanding so called solutions. You cannot legislate morality into society just like you cannot legislate evil out ! Bring back morals, the teaching of right from wrong, and get those with mental illness help. Never forget the fact that 3000 people were killed on 9/11 without firing a single shot. The killers were only armed with box cutters and evil intent.
pier,...maybe if your family was held at gunpoint and killed while you stood there like a British pus,you would understand the need for protection,...or nevermind you would just stand there and let them die,..........your pathetic.......btw the assalt rifle was found in the car
And family's being held at gun point is the norm? Sh** for brains. Anything to hold onto to your precious piece of metal that you have a 98.5% chance of never using. Use common sense. More idiots are getting a hold of guns than trained responsible individuals. And since we can't govern stupid, we can govern guns.
Thanks Piers, someone should tell Americans from a outsider perspective. A hamster, which runs in its own wheel does not know when to get out. If NO one want to say the right thing on TV, you will say what needs to be said. After all, your show is a talk show, not news report. You are free to speak...
Piers – I watch CNN because I believe it is an honestly fair and decent source for unbiased news coverage. Watching you the past couple days has left me sick to my stomach for the network that airs your show, your credability as a journalist, and the viewers who assume they can tune in to watch you act as a respectful adult able to have a civil debate. As a liberal who is for gun control reform, your juvenile antics and complete disregard for civil debate has turned this into Jerry Springer style, garbage television. An earlier post that compared you to FOX NEWS's Bill O'Reily is exactly right.
You should be ashamed, and aware, of how foolish you look when you reduce yourself to a screaming "carnival barker" , as opposed to some of your fellow respectable journalists on CNN.
You should be ashamed of yourself. The authorities should lock you up with all your gun crazy friends and throw away the keys. I applaud Piers for all he has done to stop this insanity.
move to canada Peter or britian with your buddy pier
What an articulate, rational response Peter!
FOX NEWS might be right up your ally if you prefer to:
A) Not sweat the comprehension part of what you're reading or listening to. (I am for gun reform as stated above)
B) Listen to talk show hosts masquerade as serious journalists.
Thank you Gwill for your posting. I too felt I was watching a tabloid journalist ambush a "guest" , not someone who is supposed to be of the stature of Larry King. Hardly!
I'm glad you got angry tonight with the gun advocate. Keep it up ! Don't let them off the hook. We live in a violent society, and the solution is NOT more guns. Thank you for expressing your anger on your show. That's why you are there! To confront the people who mock our right to live.
Thank you for furthering this noble cause, Mr. Morgan. Your give-and-take with the gun rights advocate was exemplary, but I'd like to address two points that I think deserve additional attention:
The automobile comparison is not just INVALID, it is absolutely LUDICROUS. Automobiles are subject to a laundry list of regulations in order to be manufactured, sold, and operated in the US. There are minimum safety standards as well as performance standards, for example. Then there are regulations as to what makes a vehicle "street legal", such as noise and ground-clearance. Also, ALL vehicles must be registered, even ones that won't (or can't) be operated (at least here in California where we have "Planned Non-Operation" registration). And, of course, operation of vehicles is highly regulated. The bottom line is that there are far more regulations applied to cars than there are for weapons, and that's simply unconscionable. If the gun enthusiasts are so keen on treating weapons like cars, then I say, "Have at it." Lets start regulating the manufacture, sale, ownership, and operation of guns the way we do with cars.
When the interviewee brought up the 1960s, I was on my feet with rage. He said, "We didn't hear about these things when I was growing up in the 50s and 60s". What about the Texas Bell Tower massacre of 1966? Think that's an exception that proves the rule? Then what about the assassination of our President in 1963 with a military assault weapon purchased by mail-order? He said that today "It's about drugs, not guns". WRONG! It is now and always has been about GUNS.
I've heard their talking points too often and wished someone would come back with responses like the above. Maybe next time.
I watched you both last Friday night and tonight. You were considerably better mannered tonight! Yes, as a nation, we MUST do a better job at identifying and helping dangerously mentally ill young men. I have taught for the past 12 yrs in very rough inner city Cincinnati, Ohio schools and have known many troubled young students. Our school safety has always been very similar to what they had in Connecticut, locked glass doors with a buzzer. Such safety is a joke, as I have always feared. There at least needs to be bullet proof glass on the door, or better yet Lexguard (a superior clear bullet resistant plastic). There also need to be armed teachers who have concealed carry licenses. Israel has armed teachers and Israel does NOT have school shootings. I am from out in the country and have owned many guns my whole adult life, and lived in a gun household my entire life. I have also held an Ohio concealed carry license for nearly 9 yrs. The US has always had a large number of civilians owning guns, and not until the last few decades have we had such gun violence (even though violence is generally at a 40 yr low in the US). The gun “safety zones” of schools are actually gun slaughter zones that merely ensure all law-abiding citizens do not have weapos inside...making it safe for evil people to commit mass murder there.Gun control just kills the innocent, as it has always done because only the law-abiding obey such laws.
Your comparisons to the violence rates in other countries, especially British Commonwealth nations, is not valid. As a Social Studies teacher who scored in the top 15% of ALL US teachers to ever take the most difficult of all Praxis II Social Studies Content Knowledge tests (with an MA in History, a BA in Anthropology. And an Associates in Pre-Law) I know a lot about human societies...not to mention that I have had both English and Canadian girlfriends! You well know that Europe, England, and all their colonies were the product of authoritarianism where freedom and the right to own weapons was long dead even before guns ever existed, leading to great violence there centuries before now. Your emotional hysteria must NEVER be allowed to destroy the 2nd Amendment to the US Bill of Rights here, even if you use former victims and a terrible tragedy to do so.
The US right to keep and bear arms came about because of the wrongs your ancestors visted upon the former 13 Colonies, forcing our Founding Fathers to vow never again! We will not allow ideologues, such as yourself, who aren't even American, but from the same tired old wrong nation of socialistic evil to hijack a terrible tragedy and turn it into an excuse to transform the only true democracy in the world into a police state... which would delight Obama and his fabian socialist friends. Go back to the Socialist “Democrat” UK and the failed EU!!! Your old world brought both world wars upon humanity, not to mention the Holocaust, and murdered the most people who have ever died in all human history. Do you really think you have the right to preach to the United States of America, the greatest light to ever shine upon the world?
How many thousands of innocent people, including kids, have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan by the US military? Maybe we should consider banning the military! Then take all the guns away from our citizens who legally own them and let you idiots figure out how to fend for yourself!
As the daughter of a WWII veteran, a niece and sister-in-law of police officers, I was advised not to have a gun in my home to protect myself and my belongings. Why? Because of the element of surprise. An intruder, a gunman, or a mentally ill person with a semi-automatic assault rifle does not "declare their intent to kill or rob someone" as in a war where war is declared on another. The most likely scenario would be that the intruder would turn the gun against me because I am not trained like a police officer on the job or like a soldier on the battlefield.
Where are the statistics that show a person carrying a legal weapon can react in time to defend themselves against an unexpected surprise spray of bullets? An intruder with intent to kill with the element of surprise shooting dozens of rounds in mere minutes and seconds in an elementary school classroom that is just starting their day, or in a dark movie theater, or at a church service, or even in a coffee shop in Lakewood, Washington where four armed police officers were ambushed AND KILLED has the ELEMENT OF SURPRISE AND THE ABILITY TO SHOOT DOZENS OF ROUNDS OF BULLETS THAT KILL. The laws of physics say the intruder with the fastest gun that shoots the most bullets FIRST wins.
As for being the daughter of a radio man on an aircraft carrier in WWII, I am lucky to have even been born. He was in a chow line on deck when an automatic gun with hundreds of rounds went off and was pointed at the chow line-several sailors died that day because the gun went off un-manned and was left pointed the wrong way- human error.
The gun advocate comparing the assault rifle to a Ferrari and skewing the murder stats by adding suicide should be ashamed of himself- what if it were one of his children in elementary school that got shot and killed with 3 to 11 bullets?
Piers, please stop using the phrase 'blown to bits' to describe the scene at Newtown. Let's show some sensitivity for the images running through the minds of the parents of these dear childeren.
The gun is only a tool and when used in the wrong hands can be totally devastating as proven on this past Friday. Any weapon can be used in this manner if a mentally or emotionally disturbed individual wants to inflict violence on others.
Banning Assault weapons will not solve the problem. We as a society and parents need to recognize and be willing to be forthcoming as to mental problems with our children.
This mother knew her son had mental problems but failed to recognize or realize & accept what this individual might be capable of.
This is not to blame his mother. Any blame should be on our Government & society as a whole for not accepting & caring for those who need mental help.
If Miss Feinstein would spend as much time on correcting the problem as she does in placing unwarranted blame her state of California might just fare in a better light. My heart & prayers go out to all of the families of he victims in Newton.
Automobiles have speed limits and highway patrol as checks and balances what are the controls on assault weapons
Piers. Please Keep the subject alive our Politicians will sweep the problem under the carpet again. NRA is a big donor.
Mrs. Feinstein rocks! Banning assault weapons is a must. Thank you for standing up on this issue,
If I hear one more person compare guns and cars I may just vomit@! Guns are machines made to kill. Cars are machines made for transport. True, cars can and do kill people even though that is not what their purpose is. Guns can and do kill people and that is what their purpose is, maybe not to kill people, but to KILL. Making that comparison is comparing things that are not the same – no useful purpose.
We require people to pass tests to get a driving license and register a car before they are allowed by law to drive.
We do not require people to pass tests or register to get a gun. Why the fight not to register guns or people who buy them? We do require people that have criminal records to be reported and then not to be able to get guns, that works to a point if the gun dealer checks the registry. However, the person and gun are not required to pass tests or register the gun.
I am sure many people out there will think I am absolutely out of touch for asking this simple concept, but I hope there may be a few people out there that may agree. Assault weapons are another discussion altogether. What real hunter really needs an assault weapon!
I was wondering when Morgan was going to do this, he attacks us as American all the time, as if his country is so much better than us. Than he goes after one of our men in blue, this man was a deputy sheriff, and Morgan still took pleasure in a good dressing down of some one that laid his life on the line for us. he has no shame, this man that lives here in our country, making the kind of money that he does, and says what ever he wants. he doesn't attack his drug taking Hollywood jerks, that make the movies and the games that make our kids sick. they are his friends he hate the rest of us. Nice guy he hates our freedom of speech he hate our right to have guns. He will not hear what they are saying to him. Ever shooting that was done was gun free zone why is that Morgan you answers that?
How dare you Piers Morgan! How can you criticize a country that isn't yours. Each country has its problems and its issues, but how dare you speak out about rights of citizens in a country that isn't yours. And if you would look into facts of the Connecticut shooting you would be see that the gun control regulations in place did work. The shooter tried to buy a gun and the gun store refused to sell him one. The shooter still acquired the weapons, and people who are determined enough will find the weapons. I have watched this segment and I want to talk to Piers about this issue. He is spreading discontent and antagonizing people just for ratings. He is doing nothing but trafficking in human misery and he should be ashamed of himself. I am not saying that these tragedies are devoid of sadness, but the path that Piers Morgan is taking and demonstrating on his show is mis-informing the public about the current gun regulations. I CHALLENGE HIM TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE! It doesn't have to be on TV, I just want to let him know how disappointed I am in him and his chosen path in this issue.
This is not about gun control nor religion in schools – this is about mental health and the access to programs for parents with trouble kids and adults that need help. guns don't kill people – people kill people -
Piers, great job tonight. As a Law Enforcement Officer, I know all to well that we need better gun control. I'm tired of taking reports of stolen guns out of the homes of good people! More guns is not the answer. Out of all the mass shootings that have taken place over the years, you never hear of one citizen returning fire.
Could that be because once you return fire, you are no longer the citizen doing justice, but become one of the assailant person(s). Therefore putting yourself in the possibility to do "hard time" for doing what is right.
As a police Officer you understand proper handling and storage of guns. I spent 20 years in The Army so i know the same. I belive that all gun purchasers should have to take a gun safety course and a respociable gun owners course and sign a for saying they will keep their guns secure at all times. Maybe even a limited liability if your gun is used in a crime. That truely is the issue not so called assault weapons but gun owner respociability
also what alot of people dont know is the civilian model is not the same as the ploice model of m-4. Unless they have changed dramatically the m-4 is agian not desinged for rapid fire these punks have just gotten lucky. There is a reason the army took away the automatic on them and went to a 3 round burst. at the very least there needs to be no mags high than 20 rounds what the army uses and for good reason
Morgan has often been a fair interviewer. Tonight he would not let his guest supporting current gun laws even talk... instead he simply spewed forth his own beliefs and his own political agenda. Having guests who have relatives killed in shootings did nothing to add to a rationale conversation about the issue.
Morgan's failure to address the mental health element of this issue is appalling. He has no right to call himself a journalist in any form.
CNN has no business allowing him to represent them in any manner.
Is Anderson Cooper the only person at CNN that works hard to be a genuine journalist presenting the news and not just his opinion.
Shame on Morgan. Shame on CNN letting him on the air.
I completely agree he was way out of line.
I agree with you Rick Wagner: He is not addressing the real issue here. P-Morgan is apart of the problem. He was put in his place a few days ago when both psychologist told him this is not a gun control issue but a mental health issue more than anything but he did not listen.
The root of the mental health problems is been covered up instead of been corrected. Our Country has been neglected for decades and we are now been confronted with all the problems.
Its much eassier and less expensive to ban gun harder to say we will spend whatever to fix mental health. as with everything it does come down to polotics
Ban assault weapons and people are still mentally ill out there . What have you solved, nothing. Would you be ok if he used a bomb or sword only killed 10 instead? How about treating the mentally ill so they don't have these thoughts of killing instead of going after what tool these people use. I swear this small minded approach will do nothing for this country and is only insulting the people who died.
Piers, I wish to thank you for your impassioned outrage over the deaths of the Newtown children and the lack of gun control in America. I am very grateful that during several shows you have vehemently displayed complete disgust that our country continues to allow these atrocities to happen.
We have immortalized 9/11 for the lost of life that occurred on that day, and rightly so. My hope and prayer is that we Americans will now mark 12/14 as the last day that we allowed our children, or any American citizen, to be slaughtered.
I believe that the tide is turning at last, and I urge you to please stay the course. But it is incredibly shameful that we didn't reach this moment of change until 20 babies lay in their coffins, stilled forever.
Here is a little history lesson for ya:
On April 19, 1995, McVeigh drove the truck to the front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building just as its offices opened for the day. Before arriving, he stopped to light a 2 minute fuse. At 09:02, a large explosion destroyed the north half of the building. The explosion killed 168 people, including 19 children in the day care center on the second floor, and injured 450 others
This was worst,some of these were infants that were killed and you know what;NO GUNS WERE INVOLVED. But it's ok because at least he didn't use a gun.
My question, or rather concern is we have focused all of our energy on guns themselves. A gun is only as powerful as the ammunition placed within it, otherwise rendered useless correct? I see no arguments toward this, I am a gun owner and enthusiast however I have earned this right through age and clear background checks. Now to purchase ammo is far too easy. Very few states have regulations on the purchasing of ammo which is a huge mistake. Tighter regulations must go into place with this as well, I believe Illinois and Massachusetts require a card to be shown before purchase. This means 48 other states you are legally able to buy ammo past a certain age. So now this gun which was useless is an active killing machine. I have no problem showing a card to buy ammo if it keeps people who should not obtain it from doing so. Guns are already in the hands of so many, working toward alternative measures is a large step which must be taken Immediately. There is no reason in the Newtown shooting he should have had 100+ rounds to fire. Where did he purchase all this? Have if there were restrictions he would not have been able to, just like he was denied the ability to buy a gun.
If i'm not mistaken his mother owned all three weapons and ammo. So no control of any sort would have worked. She should not been able to buy any firearms while a mentally ill person was living in her house.
The moment you allow the government to control what we can and cannot purchase (as home or self defense) you put the government in the position to become a domestic enemy. Where will the control stop? as said before "People who are disturbed and evil can kill lots of people with or without guns." This has been proven time and time again. I am extremely disturbed by the recent actions in the conn. school tragedy. Deepest sympathies to those families. Do not make a rash decision on these events, they could have happened with or without the use of guns. The problem is not the weapon of choice, it lies on the person(s) weilding the weapon. Keep in mind there a ways to build a weapon of such destruction using only household chemicals. Take the "GUN" away and those derived to do this, will still do it, one way or another.
Your right to bear arms does not trump my right or my childrens right to LIFE, liberty and the prusuit of happiness.
And your right to free speech will not trump the real truth of the matter: The failure of our society for ignoring Mental health issues.
I have tried to get the facts so far out, as a father of two young boys and a gun owner I blame his family and friends. I dont blame the guns, he should have been mentally evaluated but alas he can not because of stupid regulations. His mother was the gun owner not Adam. He could not have leaglly owned any of those weapons. Thats the facts! His mom should have removed them or locked them up once she saw he was not stable. You can ban all weapons and killings will still occur. Just look to Chicago which banned all handguns in 1982. It has some of the highest murder rates in the nation with guns. We need smart guns laws but more importantly we need smart mental health laws.
That old man from Virginia who blamed drugs for killings at Sandy Hook stole his statement from general Ghadafi when he blamed revolutionaries being under drug influence! Seriously? Drugs make people derange and turn them into cold blooded killers? Such a rubbish argument! The truth is lax gun laws combined with availability of assault rifles allows derange individuals to kill innocent people. It is time to translate anger into action and defeat the gun lobby.
And when bombs are used then what?
Please stop being so melodramatic !plz Focus on the issue on hand and leave drama at the door! 20 kids got slaughtered by an assault weapon. Citizens of a civilized state do not need assault weapons. If you like bond and guns and think guns are fun then join the US army. Army allows people legally kill each other. If your little sister was one of the victims would you still say " and what when bombs are used"!!!!!
If my little sister was one of the victims, I would ask one question, where were the responsible adults for this person. Obviously this man had previous engagments that considered him a threat. 1. why was he not closely monitored. 2. How, given his record how did he even get close to a weapon like that
After all these years, Feinstein is still as ignorant as ever. Improved Gun Regulations is something even die hard gun owners would be willing to support. No one wants these killings to continue. Gun Control in Feinsteins's uninformed mind means Gun Bans. Gun Bans do nothing to remove the existing hundreds of millions of the exact weapons that she and Piers want to ban. The next step to a ban is confiscation. Do these people seriously believe that Americans are going to voluntarily turn in hundreds of millions of expensive personal defense weapons just because a few politicians get pressured into passing a law? A well armed militia is necessary for the preservation of liberty. The only thing that keeps a populace from losing that liberty is that well armed populace and that doesn't mean muskets. Syrians are fighting in the streets for their liberty. Half of the Arab world has had to arm themselves to take back their liberty. Yes, all citizens should have the right to live their lives without the fear of being killed by a gun but not at the expense of every other person's right to defend themselves. There is a reasonable way to resolve the problem by discussing stricter regulations for purchasing, owning and selling all firearms- not just the ones you find objectionable. However, when you start challenging free people to justify a need for something or it can be banned by law, you open a door to oppression. There is no NEED to hunt, to fish, to own a car that can exceed the speed limit, to have a soda in excess of 16 ounces, to have alcoholic beverages. Who decides? The law does not protect what is perceived to be needed it protects liberty. We tried banning alcohol and drugs and look how well that worked out. Every ban has created the richest organization of criminals in world history. Who thinks a gun ban would be any different?
It wont, people have to understand the amount of uncontrolled gun traffic already coming into the U.S. This will just increase to move guns illegally rather than tracked as far as it is. Hello, ban all you want : marijuana, cocaine, meth, x, GUNS, it will still get in. It will never be hard to get wether its banned or illegal. These crazies will still get it (my apalogies if this terminology is not politicaly correct)
Go Piers Go! Thank you for elevating this conversation about the idiocy of assault weapons. And thank you for calling your "guest" on his idiocy: "fun" indeed. Kudos on your courage to articulate the helpless rage so many of us feel about these senseless murders.
Rage in the wrong direction and you will fail to see that even when bombs are going off or another plane strikes a building, even then you will still be screaming gun control.
1. Ban assault weapons. 2nd Amendment is not a license to carry suitcase nukes either.
2. Make registration and prescreening mandatory. Make possession of an unregistered weapon a terrorism violation with a mandatory 20 year sentence. Illegal guns are a poison. Their possession should be poisonous.
3. Commute drug sentences to provide prison space and funding for the truly deserving.
Mike, I have served more than 20 years in the service to protect your freedom. I continue to serve as a civil servant. I am a responsible AR 15 owner, do you honestly think that individuals in prison on drug related charges should be set free so that I can take their place?
I understand emotions are high after a horrific tragedy such as this, but we cannot be blinded by our emotions. Those killed are better served if we have level headed and open minded discussions. Progress will never be made if people like you make idiotic comments detrimental to the conversation.
Mr Morgan, you Sir are an arrogant ignorant man and a disgrace to your profession and CNN. Your extreme personal views and opinions incite hate and anger and are counter productive . A reputable journalist does not set up interviews, cut off guests when their statements don't match your views, and you most definitely don't yell at your guests. I enjoyed watching CNN because of their fair practices in journalism. Looks like CNN is becoming MSNBC because of the rude and extreme views and opinions of Mr Morgan. Solada has even changed her style and pushes her personal views and agenda. So sad!
What's the difference between illegal possession of drugs vs. illegal possession of deadly weapons? Both should be treated equally.
Vicky, were you referring to me ? If you were I must inform you that my guns ate not illegal.
When was the second ammendment written? In the good old days when you carried them on your hip.... Isn't it about time this was changed. Next question.... how do you get rid of all the guns already in the streets. All we need is people carrying them on their person...just in case the bad man came. I dont feel that anyone has a chance against anyone carrying a sub machine gun trained or not. The principal and teachers did not have a chance even if they were trained in handling guns. Baby steps. By the way. The gentle men who claimed that a gun was fun, Horray for you, by putting him in his place...BRAVO
Yup, the good ole' days just like our first amendment. Are you ready to reconsider what we are doing now? Just because a law is old does not make it bad. The second amendment was put in place so the people could not simply be walked over by a goverment. Gun laws dont matter! Thats the sad fact, for proof look at the city of Chicago. The city outlawed the sale and possession of handguns in 1982. Police still confiscate an average of about 10,000 firearms each year. Chicago also has some of the highest gun violence cases. Look, I am not saying we dont need tough background checks and get ASR's off the shelves but we really need to keep guns out of the mentally challenged hands. In order to do this they need to be diagnosed and tracked, this way they can not legally buy a weapon. That's it, gun laws dont work because people who should not have guns dont have a record so back ground checks dont work. Not to mention in this sad case the mother bought all the weapons, the shooter was in control of these weapons illegally. He was 20, can not own a handgun until 21. The Bushmaster ASR was also illegal to buy, sell and own in the state of CT. How his mom had it I dont know, the state made it illegal back in 1993. So he broke every law we have! It does not matter to evil people.
Well said Neal.
The Government has legally given me the death penalty for exercising my freedom of speech.
This is the most sadistic crime I believe I've seen in my time. I've got 4 children of my own and couldn't imagine having to deal with something so horrible first hand. My thoughts and prayers are with the family, friends and loved ones of those in CT. The issue of gun control has been addressed multiple times over the years. I believe the issue, only compounded by Mental Health issues, is some people just do evil things that we can't predict or prepare for. These high powered rifles have restrictions for civilian purchase, and are legally purchased by most of the people who own them. Stricter gun laws won't prevent the person next to you from killing someone. Those that choose to break the law, find a means to do it. Stricter gun laws won't remove the guns from the hands of those who already intend on doing harm. Guns are sold and traded illegally just like drugs. Consider this also, most of the gun related killings in this country are not by assault rifles...but are by handguns, or other long arms. Mental health issues drastically compound this situation. Whereas an individual with mental health challenges may not be able to purchase fire arms...who's to say they can't steal one. Or, on the other hand, just as China is dealing with...a man stabbed 22 kids!!! Weapons have been around since the beginning of time...whenever possible, those that choose to violate laws and injure or kill people, should be held accountable without delay or restraint. Guns (of any kind) don't kill people...People kill people. As sad as it is...whether 1 victim or 20, and whether it's a gun or knife, or other weapon...these crimes will never go away. Look back over the last 20 or so years...the more we have taken God out of this country...the more evil has taken hold. Taking God out of schools...out of quotes, sayings, proceedings...pledge of allegience, was one of the worst things this country could do. We should start trying to fix this problem by putting God back in this country like when it was founded. As far as laws, the laws that should be addressed are those that keep people on death row for 20 years, or set a Child Molester free after 5 years. We have more laws that make life easier for law breakers that we do ones that punish them. Again, the thoughts and prayers of my family extend whole-heartedly to those affected in CT.
I agree 100% Shane, thank you for posting.
Jack, thank you. As a Christian, a gun owner, Active Duty Service Member and MOST OF ALL, A PARENT!...I am affected by this tragic event...as are my children. They are full of questions, concern and sorrow. I just believe there are many issues in our country that need the attention of the people as a whole...the 2nd Amendment and Gun Controls are nowhere near the top of that list.
Shane, thank you for your service and honor you bring to your country. I retired a little over two years ago from active duty. After all I have done and been through for this great country I cant help but feel helpless and extremely sad. I feel as if I failed these children and their families somehow. I am also a Christian and although I haven't attended church in many years my I live my life by faith and strong moral values. I too am a father of three yet my kids are probably much older than yours. Although my kids are older we still had several discussions about this tragedy. No matter how old they get they will never be to old to learn and I will always be their teacher. There are many things that are lacking in America today. Morals,integrity, and faith in something good are probably a good place to start.
I would be more impressed by senator Feinstein's gun control pose if, when
she was mayor of San Francisco and banned handguns,she had not quietly kept one for herself while turning in the other with great fanfare! Somehow the politically powerfull, the KKK, the neo-nazis,the brown shirts,the black-shirts,the gray-shirts,cartels and mafia never want for weapons, just ordinary people get disarmed.
Piers, I really don't care what others believe your motives might be. I do care that so many innocent lives have been lost, as recently as Friday. Folks, it doesn't matter how you cut it, a gun is a weapon and now more than ever, appears to be a 'weapon of mass destruction'. Piers, insulting the American population only worsens the debate, but for God's sake, DO NOT GIVE UP! Keep pushing! I must say, I will never understand the need to possess a gun. America, time for change; a change in culture, address the criminal element, re-write your amendment (it is quite out-dated, don't you think?) and no longer serves the purpose or meets the requirements for which it was written.
I agree, the 2nd Amendment is outdated. It was enacted before the war at which time, not all States were free States. And the abuse of the Amendment is stripping us of the rights granted by the 14th Amendment.
I have two daughters and 5 grandchildren. My deepest sympathies go out to all those who lost loved ones in this senseless act by an obviously crazed individual. I can't even begin to comprehend their grief. Had I been there I pray to God I would have had the courage of those who gave their lives to saves others. I also have a concealed carry permit. If I truly believed that turning in my so called assault weapons would save even one life, I would gladly do it in a heartbeat. But I know that one single act on my part would have absolutely no effect on carnage such as this. Guns are not the problem. People are the problem. If there were absolutely no guns at all anywhere in the USA, carnage such as this would still take place. Matthew 2:16 "Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men."
Don, I told my wife the same thing. Thank you Sir for posting a meaningful and heartfelt comment. God bless you Sir!
A lack mental health resources available for those struggling with mental illness and their families that need help
Having guns and deadly weapons easily accessible leads to tragity
There is a reason for the mental health problems in America, however it's been covered up.
Its called organized gang stalking. I don't know who is behind this. Whoever it is, that is a very evil program.
In reply to Shan. Organized gang stalkers. I was not aware of it, however I educated myself and I am a victim. Our Politicians are organized gang stalkers in particular the Republican Party. Their only interest is to protect and defend big donors (big organizations), such as pharmaceutical companies, NRA, big insurance companies and etc.
As a victims of much of their failures because I am trying to expose them for corruption, they are trying to have me murdered and I have been a victim of gang stalking for years.
As a woman who was never vaccinated as a child, I have proof that childhood vaccinations causes brain and health damage. Also, they are giving health insurance companies big breaks at taxpayer's expense. Because I am trying to expose them, they tricked me into the emergency room of the hospital and then tricked me into the psychiatric ward to have me fraudulently diagnosed with suffering mental problems. Obviously, evil leads in America and do not be fooled by them. The worst are usually the first to run to the microphone to deceive the public in believing that they care.
I read somewhere that the shooter was subjected to bullying. Yet his horrible crime cannot be justified by any means. Soon after the shooting incident, lots of people started talking about gun control again. But no one talked about the other side of the story. What or who made this person to do such a horrible crime.
I am a victim of organized gang stalking. I have been experiencing rude and strange behavior from people in public places. In my case at the very beginning, I experienced workplace mobbing in my former workplace in Denver, CO. Later, It turned out to be community mobbing or gang stalking. If you google it , You will find a lot of articles about organized gang stalking. I am under 24/7 covert illegal surveillance. This is not a conspiracy theory at all. The stalkers ultimate goal is to make the victim isolated from the society. The stalkers do that by sharing victims personal information with friends, family, strangers , co-workers and anyone who comes into the victim's life. The stalkers tells others half truth and twisted lies about the victim. After this point, You realized everyone is rude. Your friends act in a strange way implying you that they know your personal stuff. If anyone tries to help you, the stalkers try to turn them against you by using cheap and evil tactics. For many reasons, most of the people think the victim is paranoid or he/she is suffering from some sort of mental illness. But the truth is the victim is so stressed because of what he/she has been going on for months or years. Unfortunately most of the people who are part of the stalking program do not realize OGS is a slow kill method.I have been going through this for past 2 years now. Could school shooting also be a result of gang stalking? When a gang stalking victim tells others what he/she has been going through, most of other people think the victim is paranoid. It's hard to believe a group of people spend so much time and money just to harass one person. When someone goes through this everyday life and no one believe him, There is a possibility that he/she could end up doing something like this. In my case, at least I have some kinds of support system and some of my friends actually believe what I say. But I don't think everyone can deal stalking situation with patience and responsible manner. Some people may take desperate measures at desperate times. I believe it's important to address gang stalking issue too, if we al
growing up in so cal I saw my fair share of violence in school that was caused by someone with some sort of mental problem. not all but but to name a few instances one boy getting hit with a bat from some one with a Mental problem. Some one found a bomb over our school cafiteria wear I ate lunch with my friends and that was very scary, We had a couple bombs found at our school I think.
I own serval guns some for historical personal reasons and some for hunting, only one semi rifle from ww2 and all in a gun safe. But one thing I cant understand is why any thing over a 10 round clip are still egal in other states. I never saw the point of the ar 15 either, My dad had one and the thing always jammed. In calfornia you can still buy one but without a pistol grip and detachable mag so that law does not fix ANYTHING! I dont know if its just california but you have to have a backround check and wait 10 days even at gun shows or online. If you buy a handgun you have to take a handgun safety test as well. so it seams to be a state problem. You also cant blame an object like guns bombs knives or a single person like obama as much as we should blame ourselfs for not helping the mentaly disturbed and cutting programs that may have helped them before. I don't know if its just me but alot of shooting ever since reagan.
In my community it has bean very sad since reagan and the new republican view of cutting mental programs and poor programs, cause the amount of mentaly ill people homeless in my city is heartbreaking. It makes me want to cry hearing the storys about how their family abandonded them and again when the mental facilities closed down. they cant afford to pay for their medication because they have no money so what do republicans do but cut more programs and wine about taxes.
Balance personal rights with social duties
Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
Protect all people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
nobody has the right to ban any american from buying anything they wont weather its a gun or a pizza, piers morgan needs to go back home if he does not like the gun rights of america. if piers morgan were to get robbed at gun point he might rethink his stance on guns
We absolutely have the right to ban anything we want if it is for the public good. It is done all the time. And how would getting robbed at gunpoint change Piers' view? I'd think that it would make it stronger.
Let's Ban not only Assault rifles and also includes:
– Magnum 357, 41, 44, BMG 50, Desert Eagle, Casul 454, S&W 500, Colt 45, 10mm, .40, 45 AUTO, 357 SIG, reloded ammo, etc
And to own a gun must have:
– Background check for state, military and federal offense
– drug use test
– Max 2 defense guns per person
– Hunting rifles – not assualt rifles – max 2 per person
– Attend a 15 hours training and legislation course every 3 years
– pass a psicological evaluation – every 3 years
– 2 weeks hold at least to buy a new gun
– Stop Gun Shows, where people sell used guns without control
– MUST HAVE a strong safe that can hold every gun at home
– limit ammunition buy to defense ammounts – max 100 per year per gun registred
I agree with most of your ideas Marcelo. Some great ideas! I would take the hold period a little further and suggest it be at least a month. I would also suggest that a background check should also be done on any other adults or teens in the home. I don't agree with the 2 gun or ammo limit as limiting ammo would be too difficult to track nd enforce .I have never been to a gun show where guns are sold without background checks. That would be completely illegal as I believe the ATF regulates and inspects gun shows and individuals with an FFL who sell guns at those gun shows. Not sure where people keep getting that info and as a legal gun owner would be shocked and angry if it were true.
Hey piers, "why are the americans so mad", you said that. So tell me, WHY DO YOU GET TO DECIDE WHAT IS BEST FOR US.(as americans)" Question: 1st- Are you a born american?! 2nd- have you put you life on the line to make sure that we continue. If not, If your going to accuse our gov. or way of life being wrong or flawed, maybe you should make sure that your paycheck doesnt come through america. Otherwise, consider yourself a hypocrite, by taking the advantage of the U.S. and all we have to offer. While turning your back towards it at the same time. You should think about all the things and the "riches" you have recieved because of the american people. listen to each one, instead of pushing your own political opinion. Just to sign off on my own personal opinion, piers, shut up and listen every now and then. I used to like your opinion on things. Now you seem to run with whatever majority rules. just shut up and listen.
Oh Jared please... he is not deciding for anyone... he is advocating for an issue that we as Americans should all be very angry about. He is right, and the fact he is British has nothing to do with it. Focus on the issue not the person. We need assault rifles off our streets. Get mad about that.
Jared, Amen brother!
Thank you Piers for calling out the gun bullies. It's time that someone held these merchants of death responsible for their dishonesty and their bullying.
I agree that we have to do something about gun violence but what I do not agree is coming from your mouth. If you do not
feel safe staying here, then leave! I guess in your case money trumps safety. A non-american preaches American must be ashamed of themselves in front of TV makes me very mad and insulted. Please leave us to solve our own problems.
SWH – well I am American and if you want to be mad and insulted you should direct it to those merchants of death that look straight into the camera and say "we need more guns", that "guns are like cars", that "guns don't kill people, people kill people".. all the while they take money from the Gun industry to fund their next election or pay their lobbying fees. Piers is rightly expressing his outrage that we should all be feeling, as humans.. what on earth does the fact that he is British have to do with anything. Americans need to look outside their own borders to maybe learn something. Quit 'shooting' the messenger. We need Piers to advocate this cause.
Mr. Van Cleave who was on last night's program blamed drugs for the problems in America, not guns. It seems on some reflection that if guns are fun, they give a sense of power, invincibility, that they are a sort of drug and that people who need their gun "fix" are holding the rest of America hostage. "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" is a mantra they keep throwing about, but people with mental illness or a propensity to violence with a semi-automatic in their hands are many times more lethal than someone without one – Guns don't kill people, people kill people, but people with guns can kill a lot of people in no time at all – 26 people mowed down in 2-1/2 minutes. Dear God.
I agree sue...150%
The problem with you Sue and all those like you is that you try to take this tradgic accident and those like it out of context. When I say out of context I mean out of context, as in Planet Earth context. You totally disregard the violent history of man, the ultra-violent history of man I should say. a history defined by our faforite pastime – war. The Illegal wars we are engaged in now which have left 100,000's of thousands dead. You forget about the fully-auto (assualt rifles) , mortars, grenades, rockets, missles, tanks, jets, subs, and just to prove how insane our planet is – nuclear weapons. You live inside the zoo bars with the animals. Why do you get to take one subset of humanity – law abiding citizens and relugate them to knives and slingslots. The mantra's you critisize are just summations of some relevant observations. those who don't mind going to prison or back to prision will have guns, those who do wiill not. How hard is that to understand, There are people who do and have used weapons (guns) to defend themselves, including women. How come these people don't count.
Clint, well said Sir.
Youe arguments consist of sympathies for those killed, which we should have. But what about sympathies for those unable to defend themselves, those killed by our illegal wars, those klled by alcohol each year 25,000 in auto crashes alone. You are focusing one tradgedy and sorrow of many. Then you demonize those who would like to defend themselves and their families, so easy to do. and a total lack of historical study or case study of past gun control outcomes Without these three fallacies what are your real points. Show me how to bring peace to the world, show me,
Dianne Feinstein carries a 19 clip gun. Wasn't she saying that part of her plan to ban certain firearms was for any weapon that had more then 10 clips?
Let me say this..... if there was someone at the Sandy Hook Elementary that had a gun on them on the day the massacre happened – who do you think would have attempted to save those innocent children & adults?! A bystander on the outside or the person carrying the gun?
There is NO right answer. My father is a Vietnam Vet and I can assure you, the only way to end violence is with violence. This is a part of our history and it will never change.
Christine – I concur with your statement! I find it reprehensible that Dianne Feinstein wants to "Write Legislation" for gun control when she, herself, holds a concealed weapons permit!!! Not only does she openly carry a firearm; she sends her staff to tactical training school in order to train them to use the very type of weapon she wants to ban! Now whether that's on the backs of the taxpayer, I don't know. Can you say hypocrit?
Better yet, Ms. Feinstein, why don't you give up your concealed weapons permit and gun, as well as, your bodyguards armed with the very guns you want to ban in order to get more press; and walk the streets of Stockton, CA, where the murder rate is over 70 for 2012 alone?
Piers....really? You forgot that little tidbit in your fit of rage. Your actions and angry outbursts are exactly why I would carry a gun. Is your name Piers Morgan or Piers Moron?
Piers...don't use this tragedy to boost your ratings.
Isn't it interesting how many "pro-choice" advocates are suddenly pretending that they care about the lives of children.
Cristine, I hate to say it, but you are correct. IF a public school ANNOUNCED it now has 20% of its staff trained and certified in the use of hand gun defense and that each one is carrying a legally concealed weapon then the chance of that school being hit are greatly diminished. It is a sad solution, but it is where we are headed. America has practically forgotten 911 and will eventually forget Newtown. We are too complacent, and it will is costing us all each day. We should prepare for what is ahead which, in my opinion, will end up with terrorists conducting coordinated attacks on our rural schools and other public venues that are susceptible, easy targets. When that happens we lose our way of life and become a military state. Our enemies will then have won.
a scary thought indeed jb
Teachers are at schools to educate and if an intruder comes in and starts shooting, will the teacher tell the intruder, "wait until I get my gun and it will be a fair fight"?
All are valid questions. If this person did not have access to a semi automatic assault rifle less people would have died. We should address lots of things that can lead to mental health such as bad parenting, divorce , poor nutrition , violent culture and .....! As we do all this we should also have laws that limit access to weapons that make mass killing possible!!!!
If the Assault Rifle Lanza used made all these killings possible...how do you explain the stabbing of 22 kids in China. The slayer in China didn't have a gun. Nor did King Herod...they used swords and spears...even stones in those days. People are the problem. If assualt weapons are banned...what will everyone's excuse be when someone else kills 1 or 20 people with an assault weapon obtained illegally??? I'm not directing this towards you...but all the statistics about all the statistics about lower crime rates and gun killings, etc...for Great Britain and Australia...guess what, the US Population is more than 3 times that of Great Britain and more than 15 times that of Australia...the percentages and rates are going to be lower because of the drastic population differences! Not because there are or aren't as many guns.
Dear Mr. Isadouchbag
i long ago quit watching your netwowk and specifically your "show". You seem to have little understanding of America, the difference between semi- and full-auto weapons, and the Second Amendment. I wonder if that vein still pops up on your neck when your screaming at your guests like someone who missed their morning dose of psychotropics. Maybe you should get your blood pressure checked? Maybe when they cancel your show and ship you back home, ratings will start to go back up,
Have a nice day!
Like I mentioned in my post last night, whether it was with an assault rifle, a handgun...or a knife or a bat...this deranged man wanted to kill those kids and he would have found a means to do it. Friday, when all those children's lives were taken in CT...a man in China stabbed 22 kids. So...should we ban knives too?...should we ban bats?...how about fishing string because you could technically strangle someone with that?...or maybe..............I could go on and on. Just like the Mathew 2:16 that was mentioned earlier...slayings have happened for years...even before there were guns. The problem isn't Assault Rifles...it's not hand guns...it's not hunting rifles or shotguns...It's people and the total lack of basic human respect and compassion that this country has lost for each other. Until we put God back in this country like when it was founded...and we, as a people..."a nation under God!"...start to refocus on the basic foundations of human decency...taking care of one another (including Mental Health!)...we will unfortunately probably see more slayings. I personally agree 100% with the saying "guns don't kill people...people kill people!" I own several guns...my guns stay locked up and they have never killed anyone. I'm glad I have never left them unlocked, they might jump out and kill someone! Aside from the RARE, ACTUAL ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGE that might injure or kill someone....Guns require a PERSON to load, aim and shoot them to kill someone! We need to fix people...not guns.
Someone mentioned earlier about the rise in violence, crimes, etc...since Reagan left office. I couldn't agree more...it wasn't too long after Reagan also that this country began trying to pull God out of our schools also.
Reagan who has been given much credit for his greatness, actually destroyed our Country. Reaganomics – less Government but big business, which left the greed wide open to be greedier. We do not want Government control, however we want Government regulations so that big businesses do not take advantage of the poor, such as banks. It's greed that sent our jobs to China and as the result, Americans are unemployed while we are promoting slave labor in China. Gave the rich tax breaks but taxes the disabled. It takes decades to suffer to end results.
Vicki...Wow...I didn't actually think someone would take this issue at hand...this evil crime against 26 people...and intermingle Tax and business issues. I simply related at the issue of OUR government taking GOD out of our schools starting after Reagan was in office. I will not sit here and debate over greed, small businesses and taxes amidst the issue of these kids being slaughtered by a deranged man...Fridays' massacre was a culmination of severely poor Mental Health Care and the detachment of love and compassion for fellow man from this country. Bring God back into the LIFE of this country, like when it was founded...and this country would see far brighter days! For those that choose not to believe in God, or are offended by Christianity, etc...then go back where you came from, home-school your kids...or just keep your opinions to yourself. This country was founded on Godly principles! Keep your blog entries about small business, taxes and money in another blog...not ones related to these events about these kids getting murdered.
Students should have been given the freedom to choose whether to participate in the prayer or to stay seated and not participate instead of eliminating God from every student. Sorry that I strayed from the subject. I am very
Before we look at gun control why don’t we look at mental health? It seems we want to take guns away from the people who are legally allowed to own them but we turn our heads when it comes to the millions walking around with sever mental health issues. If you take a look at all these attacks the shooter had mental health issues that were untreated
I don't disagree that there is a need to readdress gun control in this country. However, banning a certain type of gun is not going to solve the issue. Just as much damage can be caused by a handgun running a 10 round magazine as an assault rifle with a 30 round magazine. The people who want to cause harm are going to cause harm no matter what rules or laws are put into place because they have already BROKEN those laws and don't care anyway.
You morons just don't get it, someone that is determined to mass murder will do so with or without a firearm. The biggest mass murder was done with box cutters and planes. The second was with a truck and fertilizer. There are several ARs owned in America and 99.999% have never shot a person. Why are you idiots want to punish us lawful gun owners?
Agreed! Thanks for your comments...wish more thought and believed the same way.
Piers, you have stated that your brother is a Colonel , British Armed Forces; when can we expect
to hear his slant on military assault weapons.
Have no fear that the President is studying the method of search and seizure of all weapons owned
He thrives on drone killings, that's his violent game killing pastime.
NRA self righteous morons hiding behind archaic 2ammendment claiming they promote gun safety and self defence lol
Read this, they support criminals and many NRA members have committed crimes least of which is not listening to our children who's country this will be long after your all gone!
It would be nice if you or those like you would just once come up with a point that in some way had some reasoning to it, It's not like gun owners are stupid or evil. "NRA self righteous" who says – we just choose to defend ourselves, @nd amendment archaic, who says, it;s purpose had nothing to do with hunting. I don't think the world is an any less dangerous place today than when it was written? claiming they promote gun safety, I don't really care if they do, but they do have safety programs in place.NRA members are criminals, just another slander. Children? Well this works into the theme I see over and over. No context for any othe consideration other than this tragic event at this point in time, no historical considerations, case studies (Australia) just here today this event. Then there is the "gun lovers", ego maniacs, power hungry, etc. etc., Really I would just love to see a gun control advocate make just one point that does not include slander and allegations, A point that can hold up to some type of scrutiny. Please remember when you say things like "why would you need a weapon to kill someone" that what the public holds is just a faint faint shadow of what the militaries have Now what are those weapons for., see that is the world we live in. like it or not.
Mr Piers Morgan , I want to know what gives you the right to come over here from a country that our fore fathers had to die for to gain our liberty and freedom from and question our Constuition and our Bill Of Rights! Have you served in our Armed Forces I bet Not! You voice your opinions like you are a true American or you? And My question to you is who do you think the NRA is? Its The American people! Wise Up and Please go back to England!
MISS LARRY KING !! WHERE IS HE ?? TOO MANY NEGATIVES AGAINST P MORGAN.....& RIGHTLY SO...WHERE ARE YOU MR. KING ??
I am certain that Larry King is as angry as Pierce Morgan.
I own quite a few guns including semi-automatic rifles like the one the shooter used. I've never used mine to take a life. Thats the issue, is the person that pulled the trigger. I do use mine in the course of my employment and have my permits and licenses from the ATF in order. Somehow I doubt the shooter had any. So please, I don't need the whine about changing gun laws ot protect the mentally disturbed from causing harm, if anything you may want to advocate for more mental health care for them first and foremost.
Earth to Feinstein and Piers: The second Amendment exists so you can protect yourself not just from criminals but from the government which is growing more tyrannical by the day and continuing to grow into a fascist Orwellian surveillance state nightmare which only exists to take more of our money and eliminate our rights. We cannot trust you anymore since you are wholly owned by the global fascists who want to enslave us all and make us increasingly dependent on the government for everything. America's Spirit of independence is being gutted by people like Morgan and Feinstein.
This lady is an idiot, The second amendment is in place so retards like you can be taken out of power by force only if needed, for self defense, defense of others, and for the protection of are county, THAT is why the 2nd is in there.
What happened is a tragedy at Sandy Hook, But you CAN NOT say that if one or two teachers could lawfuly carry this wouldn't have happened.
PERFECT REASON WHY WE NEED GUNS
This kid should have been in a psych ward, If he wanted to do mass scale violence there are so many ways to do it without a gun.
If you are trained and certified there is no reason that a LAWFUL citizen cant carry inside a school,bank,mall, anywere
Police response time ( even though i love enforcement ) 8 minutes
Lawful trained citizen with pistol: 3 Seconds
Have a nice day
Lucky for me even Obama thinks Piers is nuts. I believe Obama will eventually make the decision to put armed individuals in schools, it is the objective pragmatic solution. If this incident proved anything it's that ability of us to create a "gun-free zone" is a laughable delusion. Obama has no interest in taking law abiding citizen's guns, he has always said that. So Piers please go walk the streets of Queens, east LA, south Chicago, southeast DC tonight unarmed and unescorted let us know if you have a paradigm shift in the morning.
I agree completely with Piers. The rights of human beings to life is more important than anyone's "rights" to guns. What would Jesus do? Well, He would tell us to get rid of all these GUNS!
TO ALL YOU GUN OWNERS....WOULD YOU GIVE UP YOUR GUNS IF IT MEANT THAT ONE OF THOSE PRECIOUS CHILDREN DID NOT HAVE TO DIE?
Catherine, No I wouldn't. That there are monster's like this out there makes me more determined than ever to legally carry my sidearm wherever I go. There's a quip that goes around in gun circles that illustrates the point, "When seconds count the police are only minutes away." I can see that you are quite disturbed by this and I wish you peace.
Ms. Feinstein did not create or cause all of the problems in California or anywhere else. You are trying to confuse the issue. The issue is that we have far too many to guns around that serve no purpose but to kill and injure innocent people. I am basically a conservative but I agree with Ms. Feinstein.
How can the workers go back to the factory the next day and continue to manufacture those guns? I wonder what they are feeling or thinking driving to work and when they start up the machines that make the assault weapons.
Kevin – They are probably glad to have a job. You could also wonder if a worker at a tobacco company thinks about all the cancer deaths, if an employee of a beer company thinks about the deaths and hardship caused by alcohol, if an auto worker thinks about traffic fatalities, or if anyone thinks about the mass murders happening through out the world that are paid for and supported by you as a US tax paying citizen.
Lee – getting paid for something doesn't justify the job. Assault weapon manufacturers are proud of their product and I'm sure at least some of the workers are too. They can't all be working there because they have no other choices. I don't smoke and I don't understand people who do. I'm lucky to not have an addiction to alcohol. I drive a car. And I am a tax payer, although I have been against the recent wars since a handful of men in Washington made the decision that has affected the entire world. I have very little say in how my tax dollars are spent. Alcohol, tobacco and cars, regardless of my views, are not manufactured only to cause damage and death.
Tragically this country seems to care more about its' rights to guns than it does to human life. In the 1800's we had slavery in this country. God fearing Christians supported this. We fought a war over this. Now people apologize for what this country did and believed. Someday we may be apologizing for what we continue to do now. Piers Morgan came here from England. All of our ancestors came from somewhere else. He is right regardless of where he comes from. He is trying to save lives. This country is wrong about it's need for all these guns just as it was wrong about slavery and segregation. We already have 300 million guns in this country. That is more than enough.
I've been to Ms Feinstein's San Francisco – a bastion of leftist fringe thinking, hedonism and drug abuse. A fact to consider is that drug abuse kills more people each year than abuse of firearms including suicides. Considering the latest movement to legalize recreational drugs coming from the western states I have to ask: If the preservation of life is their goal, why is it that the same people who wish to ban firearms wish to legalize drugs?
Why does CNN employ a disgraced British reporter? I guess there's nothing like coming to America and cheapening your profession even further by becoming a talking head.
You have to love this hypocrite. Trampling over our rights, while she has a heavily armed security detail making sure SHE is safe! Another narcissist who thinks their life is more important than ours!
Father God, I pray in the Name of Jesus that the hearts of all people will turn to you in love and peace. That the majority will change their minds and their hearts will melt. That they will see with the eyes of their hearts and get rid of their fears and their guns.
These two make me ill. Can we deport feinstein too?
Why do liberals believe that they possess the final/ONLY word on how everyone in this country or elsewhere in the world . . . are going to have to live their lives? http://www.gunownerinfo.com
Yeah, it's funny how that works. Every liberal I've ever met demands great tolerance for diversity. That is unless your brand of diversity disagrees with their world view. Then you must be muzzled, controlled and changed at all costs. Liberal is really synonymous with hypocrite.
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