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December 19th, 2012
11:40 PM ET

Piers Morgan and Christiane Amanpour debate gun control with guests Steve Dulan and John R. Lott, Jr.

As part of a very special edition of "Piers Morgan Tonight," on Wednesday evening the program welcomed a live audience, as well as a handful of informed, invested and influential guests, to continue a conversation on guns in America.

In the aftermath of the unimaginable tragedy that left 20 children dead within the walls of Sandy Hook Elementary School, Piers Morgan invited both Steve Dulan and John Lott to share their perspective on the call for increased gun legislation.

A believer in the concept that firearms can promote safety, Dulan offered his perspective:

"I've had conversations with individuals who've saved lives with guns," said the Attorney for the Michigan Coalition of Responsible Gun Owners. "More than one of the folks who have come through my class have saved lives with guns, and in fact, semi-automatic guns. They have protected themselves, and their loved ones, so we look at it as guns save lives, also."

As the town hall style program continued, Lott – the author of "More Guns, Less Crime" – reengaged with Morgan on a debate they'd taken up on multiple occasions previously:

"Every place, that guns have been banned, murder rates have gone up. You can not point to one place – whether it's Chicago, or whether it's D.C., or whether it's been England, or whether it's been Jamaica..."

As the man seated in the front row of the audience continued to list cities and countries, Morgan quickly cut him off:

"I'm sorry, but that's just a complete lie. It's a complete lie. The gun murder rate in Britain is 35 a year, average. You need to stop repeating a blatant lie, about what happens in other countries," said Morgan. "No, you're not going to get away with this. You lied about it the other day. Thirty-five gun murders a year in Britain, eleven to twelve thousand in America. Stop lying, because what you say drives Americans to defend themselves."

Jumping in to cool the waters as the two men exchanged heated words, Christiane Amanpour crunched some numbers in an attempt to place things in proper perspective:

"After Dunblane, they put in these bans, they put in these punishments, fines, jail sentances, etcetera. And it's true, that straight afterwards, there wasn't a huge change," said the host of "Amanpour" on CNN. "But in 2002, 2003, until 2011, the rate plummeted, by 44 percent. That's math."

Watch the clips, and listen to the interview, as Piers Morgan and his live guests engaged in a hotly contested debate on gun control that comes as part of live, town hall style program.
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  1. Griff.

    "So Uhuru, has had to drop out in Kenya's election. I wonder what Jomo is thinking way up there, after all the time he spent in Prison fighting for Kenya's indipendence of 1963"

    December 19, 2012 at 11:47 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Sadforpiers

      Used to be a Piers fan but am incredibly disgusted by the way he treated the guests on his show with opposing views. It was childish and thank goodness people like Christine Amanpour had the maturity to speak without yelling. When Piers yells over his guests it makes you as a viewer NOT want to listen to his views and turn him off. The bosses at CNN must do something to ensure he treats all of his guests with respect and lets them speak. Tonight was a disgrace and he must do better. This was not journalism...this was a one sided yell fest and Piers came across as a schoolyard bully. This was not an adult discussion.

      December 20, 2012 at 3:57 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Kristy

        I totally agree. I can't stand to watch another minute of his ridiculousness! I have been glued to CNN, but he just ruins what should be a well balanced and completely honest and informative debate. It can't be! He won't allow another person who doesn't share his EXACT views...not only that, he is determined to be as rude and disrespectful to those persons as he can possibly be! I can't believe CNN allows this "crap" to continue.
        I'm done. I can and will find a news channel debate show where BOTH sides are represented honestly and openly so I can get all of the BEST information. I think we've heard enough of a raving lunatic!

        December 20, 2012 at 4:27 am | Report abuse |
      • max

        he puts his finger in the air and which way the wind is blowing is where he is going. it the show its his money and he could careless about us and our kid in the USA. they just don't want him back where he is from. so he is flipping out due to it helps rating, and up sets people that’s all. He is beating up the bad guy and he gets to wear a white hat. if you ever done any reading on this man he is not the good guy.

        December 20, 2012 at 4:47 am | Report abuse |
      • Eagle Creek

        I agree completely. Tuned in to hear what I thought was a honest debate and presentation of facts. Instead I could have sworn Morton Downey Jr. had been resurrected and was doing another one of his shows. All we needed was Morgan lighting up his cigarette and we would have been right there!

        Mr. Morgan, why don't you come to Tennessee and put on the same program? This time, fill your townhall with law abiding gun carrying citizens. And maybe a couple of real VETERANS. Even some who were wounded in the line of fire. Let's have that debate here. You'll have a few more than one guy to berate. But, you can certainly worry less than you may have last night that some nut with an AR is going to bust in trying to kill anyone during filming.

        December 20, 2012 at 7:58 am | Report abuse |
      • craig oliver

        I will never watch him again. I was interested in hearing other views,right or wrong on the gun issue. The shoes was A waist of time. There is A lot of other news on other channels. I just picked up the remote.

        December 20, 2012 at 7:58 am | Report abuse |
      • Jeannie

        I agree. BULLY is the only word I can use to describe his behavior last night. He should be ashamed. Why invite someone onto your show only to not allow him to speak. It was disgraceful behavior. By the way, the historical irony was not lost on me as a watched a Brit bullying an American and trying to take away his rights.

        December 20, 2012 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
      • Day Lantern

        Send piers back to England where he belongs

        December 20, 2012 at 10:47 am | Report abuse |
      • Ross Hooley

        I agree. I enjoy watching CNN but I find Pier's bullying tactics rude and disrespectful. He knows the guests that he has on and what they will be saying beforehand and yet he does not give them a chance to answer his questions. Instead he shouts over them and is very disrespectful toward them if they do not agree with his viewpoint. I am for more gun control but I am also for having honest discussion and hearing what other people have to say. Grow up Mr. Morgan. I expect a lot more. I think I might stick to AC360.

        December 20, 2012 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
      • Paul

        I am very disappointed that PM is unable/unwilling to control his emotions during these last few days. He is wasting a very valuable opportunity to use his large audience to facilitate a balanced discourse on this very complex issue. I, like most Americans, am not passionate about either side of the argument about gun control as I can appreciate both sides of the argument. It would seem that if PM is serious about facilitating a rational discussion he would become more educated about the subject. For the past 5 days all he is able to do is repeat himself about why anyone would want an AR15 while quoting firing rates as well as the death statistics in the UK versus US as well as the recent mass shootings. If he was really intelligent about this he would not focus on the AR15 itself because as his pro gun guests have rightly pointed out cosmetically it looks like a military weapon. This real issue is ALL semi automatic guns function the same. We should be having a discussion on potentially regulating ALL semi-automatic weapons. The reason why the assault rifle ban didn't work was that the NRA lobbied the Gov't to focused on cosmetic attributes rather that functional attributes so the guns industry easily got around it. Come on PM get smart about this issue and control your emotions with your guests otherwise you will only play into the hands of the gun lobby and we will have wasted this opportunity to make a real change in this country. Allow your pro gun guests to speak and clearly articulate their side no matter how far it is from the maiin stream. It is only through allowing them to speak will the majority of the nation and the politicians realize how out of touch they are which will make it easier for real change to occur that is balanced.

        December 20, 2012 at 11:56 am | Report abuse |
      • Davis Alexander

        This says it all

        Look at the background of the piece of filth trying to have our guns taken.

        He is a gun hoax specialist that sets up
        Military members

        December 20, 2012 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • TruthHonorIntegrity

        Very well said. Seems Mr. Morgan is grand standing on the pain and loss of the situation. He just won't listen. Agree, CNN must do something or they will suffer the consequences.

        December 20, 2012 at 12:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dave

        Pierce is a lousy reporter. Maybe if he took the time to look at either the UK or Australia that have gun laws, he will LEARN that more crimes are committed with guns when the average Joe has their guns taken away, typical of the lunatic left, spew lies and expect the simple minded to believe them, only works with the uninformed liberal crowds that worship being so uninformed.
        Thank goodness I stopped watching CNN when they were Sadam Hussein's mouth piece in the first gulf war…….

        December 20, 2012 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • Cliff

        Americans don't like to be lectured by the British about gun ownership. If it weren't for their King George there would be no second amenndment. Clowns like Morgan aren't used to a democracy. We'll work it out without this pompous limey.

        December 20, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mpf

        I am outraged by Morgan's bullying and disrespectful treatment of his guest! I don't agree with Mr. Pratt but he deserves a fair hearing without Morgan's interruptions, insults, and sneers. I've had reservations about him ever since he joined CNN, but this is it, the last time I will view this boor. have only one recommendation for CNN: FIRE MORGAN.

        December 20, 2012 at 6:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • robert

        Who mad Piers a spokesman for Americans anyway?Been to a gun store lately?Everything flying off the shelf!Ask people from Austrailia how they feel about having their guns takin away.They learned what HOME INVASION was.These guns are for home and country protection,ie malitia!I dont trust my government when they keep passing laws nobody wants.I dont know of anyone who will give up their guns to anyone,especially a ambulance chassing brit!

        December 20, 2012 at 10:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • marcus

        I have not seen a person in your position to be so passionate about you views on gun control. I agree with you. You are a man wtih absolute integrity, and I support your views wholeheartly.

        December 20, 2012 at 10:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • Coralrocks

        I agree! Piers is increasingly hostile towards his guest and has a personal agenda rather that reporting the news in an unbiased position. His liberal left position has fired up the the right and the NRA has been receiving more donations than ever. We will fight this a** to the end with all the money we have. Nobody will ever take away our rights to defend ourselves. This is a losing battle for Piers and he will end his career on this note. Goodbye Piers. You are cooked!

        December 20, 2012 at 10:37 pm | Report abuse |
      • KPH in KY

        The words "Anal Orifice" comes to mind! I certianly does not mind confusing facts with his opinions.

        December 21, 2012 at 9:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • TC

        You need to change the banner of the article. This was not a debate, it was an ambush. If somebody invites you to sit in the soundproof room on Jerry Springer's show or sit in the first row at a Piers Morgan "debate" where you don't have the same view as Mr. Morgan, DON'T DO IT!
        Shortly after George Bush was elected, Ms. Amanpour was quoted as saying "How did we allow him to be elected?" Until that moment, I thought Ms. Amanpour was THE BEST news reporter in the world. After, I realized she had a hidden agenda and wasn't interested as much in reporting the news. I feel the same way about Mr. Morgan. If you're going to call it a debate, don't be the antagonist AND the moderator. There was NO moderation in this show – you stacked the deck against your "guest" and you were unwilling to let people with opposing viewpoints to be heard.

        I didn't own a gun until I was 58 years old and I own two high capacity semi automatic handguns now. Since you can't shout me down in this forum, let me tell you why.

        I, like many Americans, have a deepening fear that I may need to defend my family and my property against people that feel they can take it away from me with impunity. This includes criminals as well as our own government. Squeezing off three rounds at somebody has a drastic effect on their willingness to attack, whether I hit them or not. I didn't buy my weapons to hunt, they're anti-personnel weapons to be used TO DEFEND MYSELF!!

        December 22, 2012 at 4:21 am | Report abuse |
      • Moron

        Please don't dismiss Piers- it's been lovely and peaceful here in England without him.

        December 22, 2012 at 8:02 am | Report abuse |
      • Dougie

        Americans are in total denial of the truth when faced the UK or indeed any other civilised countries murder rates by guns.
        Sadly in their ignorance they will continue to murder each other by the thousands each year. Tragically a large number of those murdered such as children have no defence. If you take the NRAs logic to its extreme arm children over the age of five and they will be able to fire back.

        December 22, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Report abuse |
      • What???

        @Dougie! You and Piers can go back to where ever you come from or stay where you are if you don't like what we do in America!

        December 26, 2012 at 11:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • curtis

      mr.morgan should be removed from t.v. I have never seen anyone disrespect a guest as much as him. When will there liberal nuts realize guns are not the problem,its the person behind the gun. Last time i checked drugs were illegal but guess what crackheads die everyday from using them. Should we outlaw cars–no way the driver should be held accountable for their actions its the cars fault–drunk drivers shouldn;t be arrested its the liquors fault. I hurt for the families involved and pray for each of them and while this is an act by a sick person i have yet to hear Mr. Morgan or any of the liberal two face media stand up and say lets stop the killing of 20 ,million innnocent babies murdered through abortion.

      December 20, 2012 at 10:37 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • kappel

        I am so sick of watching this arrogant jerk cutoff people with apposing views, and not letting them finish a single sentence. Then, he demands respect from them when letting people that share his views speak. GET HIM OFF THE AIR!

        December 20, 2012 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
      • Bart

        I understand the easy satisfaction of pierce jumping on the band wagon about guns but over 75,000 people are killed by drunk drivers a year and you do not hear him wanting to ban cars.

        December 20, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • J D

        What will it take for people like you to open their heartless redneckish eyes? The USA is the only modern country in the world that would even have to have a debate about whether high powered assault weapons should be killing innocent people including children. Too bad we can't put you all on an island somewhere... you could have all the guns you like. Look out bunny rabbits. Yee haw.

        December 21, 2012 at 10:45 am | Report abuse |
      • Barry

        How ignorant! AR are not legal to buy. However, SEMI-automatic weapons are. That being, 1 pull = 1 bullet. Pierce is oblivious to the FACTS, as you are. There are SEMI-automatice weapons (please see above description) that have been politcally LABELED as AR because they look like them.The point being, if not total ignorance, then it's bait-n-switch...talking about SEMI-automatic weapons as if they're AUTOMATIC weapons; it is not humanly possible to fire as many rounds per second as Pierce has proclaimed; NO ONE can fire 100 rounds per second ONE PULL AT A TIME!!

        So why is it we're even talking assault rifles?? This last idiot didn't use them, did he?

        December 21, 2012 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
    • darwech

      Immature! DO NOT tell people to go back to their countries lol....what sort of idiocy is this? I will watch him more now because he is talking facts and more passionately about this than every gun owner ive heard from!

      December 20, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • citizens against hammer and baseball bat violence

        –" I will watch him more now because he is talking facts and more passionately about this than every gun owner ive heard from!"-------–
        -– LOL.. Everyone becomes a gun expert from watching TV after someone breaks the law with them. People who know about guns KNOW the media is lying and mis-informing about how things work in the real world. How does the media tell you about a person with a gun that prevented a crime? They don't because to them it's NOT NEWS. Wake the hell up.

        December 20, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ken Kozak

        You say you will watch him more now??? REally? You choose to use a person who has already been caught lying and falsifying a newstory, as your source of information? Perhaps better judgement would be in order. I say, consider the source. This man (a phrase used lightly), sets out to profit from a sickening situation, and you believe he is worthy of praise? Many of us were sickened at what happened, and feel a sense of helplessness at the tragedy. Those are REAL emotions and sympathy's, unlike Piers Morgan who is sensationalizing this terrible tragedy in order to bouy sagging ratings. There is no wisdom in attempting to have a dialog with a person of his failing character.

        December 20, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • Grace Evans

        You go Piers! I love watching his show. Finally someone has the balls to differentiate right from wrong. I think he's doing a great job. What's life without passion and Mr. M is passionate about this subject. So what if gives a piece of his mind to the NRA idiots and the far right wing nutcases. They are exactly what he calls them: "unbelievably stupid!" The NRA wants to arm the teachers! Really! What if a psycho short fused teacher shoots a student??? Oh wait, I know the answer to that: arm the kids!!! Pack a gun in their little backpacks... At the risk of repeating myself: "unbelievably stupid!"

        December 20, 2012 at 11:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • mustangvoodoo1

        With all due respect my friend, Piers Morgan has not the clue as to what he is talking about. I own multiple AR-15 platforms. Uhm, yes an AR-15 is NOT a weapon itself but a platform to which has licensed it's use to multiple firearm companies.
        What Piers Morgan does NOT shout from the rooftops is that the typcal 30.06 or 30.30 hunting rifle is far more powerful than even an AR-15 platform chambered in 5.56 which is the NATO round utilized by Allied troops

        December 21, 2012 at 8:17 am | Report abuse |
      • JillR

        There are way too many people just NOT getting the point. Piers Morgan speaks the truth and called his guest a liar because he did indeed have the wrong facts about murder rates in England. I don't always agree with him – but this time I do. I would go as far as suggesting that those of you who have condemned PM, probably own a gun or have hunted. Get rid of guns altogether and of course the murder rate will plummet – that's a fact and has been proven in other countries. Americans need to get real – your country is in a mess and your kids are dying.

        December 24, 2012 at 12:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • W. Stanley

      I was starting to loose all hope for the US, until I read a few of my fellow Americans express discust at PM & his views on American Issues.
      As I recall, we tossed guys like you out a few years back, for taxing the heck out of us and telling us what to do. I certainly didn't invited you here, please grab next plane back home... if its for good, I'll pay the airfaire.
      Actually, you might want to move in with your new pals in China. I could not think of a worse ally for you gun control position, well other than the Taliban.
      God Bless our founding fathers for they foresaw this day coming.

      December 22, 2012 at 1:07 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • james

      Piersemorgan has lost all respect from me, not that he ever had any... he is a complete idiot to think ridding us of guns will solve anything. We made drugs illegal.. we still have em! Guns.. guess what now the citizens are all unarmed and the criminals ARE armed...yup good idea idiot

      December 22, 2012 at 5:18 am | Report abuse | Reply
  2. John Downey

    Mr Morgan,

    You make America PRoud!!! My only criticism is to allow people to speak and then rebutt their idiotic claims. Thank you for being the strong voice regarding weapons that absolutely have no business in the hands of Civilians. Also, if everyone was armed as advocates seem to believe is the answer; innocent people would be shot and a good example is the single shooting in Fl. of a young man who did not have a knife or a weapon.

    I heard on the radio another idiot make claims about a car crashing into the school doing the same. I am ashamed of Americans who are so arrogant and would rather just say; oh well lets get the nuts off the street hwne the real answer is get the mass killing machines off the street and reduce the number.

    I enjoy your program and directness but I would like to guest to have a chnace to answer. I support your views and am glad you are on American TV because I don' know of any Aerican who hs the gs to speak out as loudas you have.

    Thank you

    John Downey
    Huntley IL

    December 19, 2012 at 11:50 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Bob Haywood

      Wow, the sheer ignorance and lack of foresight is astounding. From Morgan, we've come to expect his particular brand of idiocy. You sir, are a danger to your neighbors and fellow Americans.

      December 19, 2012 at 11:57 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Judy Mungovan

        What are you so afraid of about what might happen if your guns are taken away? What could be worse than the massacres that happen daily in a Country that all the world is looking at, wondering why Americans have such a paranoid fear of government equal only to their sick love of guns?

        December 20, 2012 at 12:17 am | Report abuse |
      • Charles

        What could be worse then that slaughter?

        The same thing happening in your own home, to your family, when you could have had the power to maybe do something about it comes to mind. Maybe not in the grand scheme of things, but to you? To you that would hurt far worse then anything you're feeling for those poor children right now.

        As soon as the government begins deserving trust, I'll give it to em.

        December 20, 2012 at 12:40 am | Report abuse |
      • Chase

        Totally agree with Judy and Piers! I'm an American myself, but I can't STAND these gun lovers and their sick gun fetishes. Hey gun lovers: it's time to stop living in your little fantasy world and grow up! This is almost the year 2013 NOT 1813! You no longer need guns; it's not how it is in the movies when it comes to self defense. You are 'macho posers' and are very insecure about yourself. If you want a gun to play with, go down to your local toy store near your trailer park and purchase a squirt gun!

        December 20, 2012 at 12:42 am | Report abuse |
      • Day Lantern

        Reply to Judy What could happen? Are you ignorant of Fast and Furious where the DOJ sent THOUSANDS of rifles across the boarder to mexican drug cartels. Thousands of innocent UNARMED Mexicans on the boarder have been massacered.

        December 20, 2012 at 11:00 am | Report abuse |
    • Ken Kozak

      You, who sit and enjoy the benefits of democracy, that I and my brothers have fought for, literally, are the antidote to freedom. You implore the taking of a RIGHT, in order to feel secure. This is a symptom of the problem. You look for the governement to take care of all that ills you, or benefits you and yet you pound your chest as though you are a patriot. As though you are fighting an unjust war. While in reality, you are merely seeking an excuse to turn over another freedom. Shame on you.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:18 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • American

        Well said.

        December 20, 2012 at 10:49 am | Report abuse |
      • American

        Well said. I wish the commentary portion of this had a "like" button.

        December 20, 2012 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • mustangvoodoo1

        This is directed toward YOU and your ignorance and drinking the Kool-aid from the media:

        Here me and here me good:

        "Those of you who will trade liberty for security will lose BOTH and deserve NEITHER!!" The funny part is Piers Morgan would call this statement a disgrace and absolute "rubbish"and wholly Un-American. When he does, his complete ignorance will be there for all to see.

        Piers, you want our weapons? In the words of Spartan king Leonidas, "Come and get them" (it's from a movie folks, relax)

        December 21, 2012 at 8:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Roland Lozano

      I totally agree with Downy. The root cause for the massacre is ignorance. A ban on asault style weapons will not solve the problem. All semiautomatics will perform with the same relative action of an assault weapon including pistols. Fully automatic rifles are bullet spitters and are most effective at close range. Did you know that in combat situations it may take anywhere from 25,000-400,000 bullets to kill 1 soldier. Point, aim and fire one bullet or, in other words, one shot one kill. That will get the job done. The ammunition in the AR15 by the way is the same type and will cause the same damage as most bolt action or semi-automatic hunting rifles. Are we talking about banning those too?? If that's where we're heading, then you're talking about banning practically all fire arms. That would not be good for the country. Not now. Piers hit it on the head but then lost it. After 300+ years of living with firearms why has there been a proliferation of mass shootings. Mental illness, Video Carnage games, errosion of good old-fashioned American values. If we want the lives of Newtown shooting victims to mean something, let's stay focused on the cause and not the politics.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:23 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Rolando Lozano

        Sorry I meant to say Haywood not Downy.

        December 20, 2012 at 1:29 am | Report abuse |
      • mustangvoodoo1

        Whilst I believe we are on the same side Roland, you have stated some "facts" that just don't jive. The thing is, IF we are going to post a viable argument we cannot afford to make mistakes or state things we cannot validate. I am a disabled veteran medically retired from the Army. I have never heard that it takes anywhere from 25K to 400K rounds of ammunition to eliminate a single soldier. Where do you get these numbers?

        Further you speak of the ammunition in an AR-15 platform is the exact same as most hunting rifles. I see where you are coming from nevertheless you are mistaken.
        First of all the term AR-15 is a platform and NOT a specific weapon. Not all AR-15 platforms are chambered in 5.56 as it's military version: the M-4 and M4A1. They can be chambered in 5.56 and .223, .308 and .22LR 6.5 and 6.8

        Secondly a typical hunting rifle whether bolt action or semi auto are usually chambered in 30.06 and 30.30. You state they are the same when in fact, the 30.06 and 30.30 ammunition is FAR more powerful than an AR-15 chambered in 5.56
        Again we are on the same side yet we MUST be filling these blogs with facts and NOT conjecture and falsehoods whether innocent or not

        January 9, 2013 at 1:44 am | Report abuse |
    • JT

      John i would like to know what you and your buddy morgan plan to do about the reality of having an absolute psycho point a gun at you? After you take guns out of responsible gun owners hands, what do you plan on doing about the lawless people who point them in folks faces everyday? What would you if you seen that gunman enter that school? call the police? that did alot of good didnt it? it took TEN minutes for them to get there. Its you weak, no impact, no action, no results, type of people who do all the talking and NONE of the doing. You morons sit around and argue about england and how they have 35 murders by handgun? who cares about england? Its one sixth the pop. of the us and the size of oregon, very easy to control there "subjects". I have submitted a realistic plan for lessening the chances of this type of thing happening at a school. What have you done? Ive gone to my childs school and reveiwed there plans and strategies. What have you or this scientist morgan done to help? I teach a gun safety class to kids and adults on all aspects af responsible gun ownership. What do you do help people deal with their personal safety? I suppose your one of "those" people who think its the polices responsibility to protect you. Your dead wrong, police mandate is to investigate crimes that have already occured. Its not printed in any law that the police stay in your house and protect you. I think when danger comes to you, it would run right through you and on to your family. You wont protect any one with a negative, useless mindset like yours.

      December 20, 2012 at 5:17 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Boglesdos

        You have to take a course (+) to get your Captain License, drivers license, real estate license, etc so why don't you have to take a course on gun responsibility? And I don't mean a online course, a course comparable to what any police officer who has the responsibility of gun ownership has to take? And as comparable to the above referenced licenses it should be at the gun owners expense, period. The course should also include a mental health exam and also a certification of where the gun owner will safehold his weapons. If you choose to be obsessed with having a gun than you should have the passion and responsibility and mental capacity that the above should not be beyond your scope of reason. Just sayin! (And I could careless if you show me how to clean my gun)

        December 20, 2012 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
      • JG

        JT the last time I checked the police are empowered to prevent crime. Not sure what is going on in your community but maybe you should work to get that changed. Police – a division of government organized for maintenance of law and order AND the prevention and investigation of crime. I am sorry you feel so alone and afraid.

        December 20, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • kappel

        JG...where have you been? Do you live in an area where everyone has their own personal police officer standing next to them 24/7? Most cops will tell you that more often than not they don't get on the scene until AFTER the crime has been committed. Private citizens end up being their own first line of defense way before the police show up. And, I'm not knocking the cops...I know they can't be everywhere all the time.

        December 20, 2012 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • JG

        kappel, where I have I been? NY for 20 years, MA for 20, and CT for 20. Where have you been. I have never found a need for a firearm for any reason for those 60 years. I once called 911 when I was rear ended in suburban CT and a police officer arrived in less than10 minutes. I was not expecting him to prevent the accident, of course, but I've been stopped for speeding on occasion although not recently. I would call that action police prevention minor as it may be...I would expect if my home was being broken into while I was at home that a 911 call would prompt a speedy response but who knows because it has never happened. I had some experiences with car theft when I lived in the Boston area in the 70's and 80's (who didn't) but that always occurred when no one was around. Instead of getting gun and going around trying to kill the kids (and yes most of them were kids) who were stealing the cars I just beefed up my car security (alarm, kill switches, etc.) and never had a problem since.

        December 20, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • kappel

        JG, I'm very happy for you that YOU never needed an immediate response from the police, or needed a gun. How you can compare the response times for getting rear ended by a car to needing a fast response time for a home invasion in progress by armed robbers is beyond me. In most home invasions, you barely have time to try to defend yourself, let alone even call the cops. In the few minutes it takes the police to arrive, an entire family can be killed. Most gun owners I know would rather have a gun and never need it, than need a gun and not have it. I can think of a few recent shootings in places of worship, malls and schools where the victims would have had at least a fighting chance to survive had they had some meaningful way to protect themselves instead of throwing themselves in front of a hail of bullets while they were waiting for the police to arrive.

        December 20, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • JG

        kappel, If you really feel threatened by a home invasion then by all means find some way to protect yourself and your family but you do realize that if you decide to do this with personal firearms that you are putting yourself, your family, and your community at greater risk from your own weapons than the preventing the small possiblity of your home actually being invaded. Besides if you then want to protect your family by locking up the guns so they cannot easily get at them then you will just lessen the chance of being able to use them effectively during an "invasion". You'll have the wear your firearms on your person loaded and ready for action for that to have any useful deterrence. If was unlucky enough to be living in Afghanistan that might be worth the risk. Is it really worth the risk where you live? I hope not. I certainly do not want inexperienced gun owners walking around in malls and movie theaters looking to take out perceived threats. You heard the gentlemen last night describe the situation in the Tucson shooting where several people who were armed in the crowd actually did not take out their weapons because in the chaos of the moment there was no way to know who was shooting at who. The Tucson shooter was eventually taken down by unarmed people when he had to re-load. If he had not had the 10 or 20 round clip at the time he would have done a lot less damage.

        December 20, 2012 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • kappel

        JG, I am very comfortable with the safety precautions I have taken, and the amount of time it takes to arm myself. I even use bullets that won’t penetrate my walls, so my neighbors can rest at ease. We each take the risks we feel comfortable with. And, just for the record, I’m not sure that I’m more at risk to have a gun accident than I am to be victim of a home invasion/looting…like in a Katrina type situation.

        There are 2 things that cause gun accidents…ignorance and carelessness…the same things that apply to driving a car on a much more frequent basis. As long as responsible gun owners know to keep them locked up when appropriate, how to use them correctly, and remain mindful that the bullet comes out of the end with the hole in it, guns are safe.

        Concerning the Tucson mall shooting…the fact that these armed gun owners chose not to draw their weapons in the mall just goes to show that ‘law abiding’ private citizens are not careless, and don’t act like the cowboys everyone makes them out to be. FWIW, if (and that’s a big ‘IF’) I ever concealed carried in a mall, my first line of defense is still to make it to the exit. But, if I found myself cornered, and about to be executed, I would at least have a fighting chance if I had a gun. Too bad the principal at Sandy Hook School didn’t have one on her when she tried to intercept the animal that executed her.

        There is a YouTube video by John Stossel called ‘Gun Laws That Kill’. Everyone should watch all 10 minutes of it. It discusses when, if gun owners had been able to draw their guns, many lives may have been saved. Most anti-gun people don’t watch the entire 10 minutes because it contradicts their emotional bias against guns.

        December 20, 2012 at 5:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kevin

      Tell that to the poor people in Syria, that only the military should have the type of guns that are killing them and they should only have a single shot gun to defend with or regain a way of life like we have. How did the North beat the South in our own war "faster guns" Gun control isn't the only way.Tthe State is doing away with Mental hospitals and trying to place these people back a thecounty level and society, the lawyers that have taken away the discipline ability in schools, homes. No discipline also has created a monster of itself. I guess this is how Congress and the President sound I'll yell you down if you don't agree with me. ANSWER THE QUESTION! ANSWER THE QUESTION! ANSWER THE QUESTION! I'm sorry didn't I give you the chance to answer the first question. ANSWER THE QUESTION! PIERS SUCKS IN MY EYES NOW. I watch CNN all the time. I will change the channel when PIERS COMES ON AS I FINALLY DID LAST NIGHT.

      December 20, 2012 at 5:35 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Wake up

        I can weep no more .... This is such a sickend society with double standard.

        " In the US, mass child killings are tragedies. In Pakistan, mere bug splats"

        Barack Obama's tears for the children of Newtown are in stark contrast to his silence over the children murdered by his drones.

        December 20, 2012 at 7:45 am | Report abuse |
    • kathy

      I agree with you John Downey. I am so proud that Piers has the guts to stand ground on this issue. He does not allow these gun fanatics to spew their lies. He is looking out for all these dead children , their parents and people like us that have some common sense and decency who want these killing machines off the streets. We are MAD, we are FED UP, we are DISGUSTED by this gun culture that has taken over our country. We will not let another year go by without legislation getting through banning these weapons and high capacity clips and thorough back ground checks on a federal level.

      December 20, 2012 at 8:03 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • American Patriot

        What in the world makes you so high and mighty? You have probably never owned a gun, never saved a life, never protected a nation, never mattered to anyone but yourself. Meanwhile you are crying about guns with freedoms afforded you by others. Wake up read. Guns rank extremely low when compared to other methods of death. Dui, prescription meds, car accidents. Never ending illegal wars. You disgust me.

        December 20, 2012 at 11:38 am | Report abuse |
      • citizens against hammer and baseballbat violence

        You really do not know what you are talking about. You must have learned everything about guns from watching TV?
        THey are not clips. they are magazines. The media does very well at mis-information. What do you say to victims who have prevented death from bad people because they had a gun. ?

        December 20, 2012 at 2:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • Wes

        You are a sheep. If you are SO concerned with getting "killing machines" out of our society, then PLEASE try and focus on the HUMAN that causes the harm, not the conduit of which they choose to inflict the harm upon. There has never been, and never will be...ONE rifle, pistol, or any other projectile weapon that has magically imbued itself with consciousness, gotten up on it's own, loaded itself with ammunition, and walked outside to go on a shooting rampage where it kills human being. They are inanimate objects, Kathy....just in case you can't decipher that out. It is when a HUMAN being decides to pick these machines up, and then they consciously go out and decide kill...and that, Kathy, can be with a gun, a knife, an automobile, a power tool, a vile of poison, or whatever the hell they want to use. It is the person! It is the person! It is the PERSON! Not a hunk of metal and plastic formed together in a certain shape. PLEASE...don't be a sheep anymore.

        December 20, 2012 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • mustangvoodoo1

        Piers does not give a damn about these children. He is politicizing a horrific crime as a means to advance his beliefs upon the US. There was a child's father from the Newton shootings who was interviewed stating do NOT grandstand my loss to advance an authoritarian agenda. Those babies were killed by a deranged mentally ill young man and the weapon used NOT an ASSAULT Weaponis merely the tool. Assault weapons by definition are fully automatic and/or select fire. These AR-15 platforms are the same as any semi auto rifle they only look different

        December 21, 2012 at 8:31 am | Report abuse |
    • American Patriot

      You clearly are undereducated. Spoken like a true communist. People like you make me wish my family didn't fight and or die for this country. What a slap in the face. You sit there mouthing off . Using freedoms our second amendment help obtain and keep. If you don't want to live in a country that allows all citizens to be equal with undeniable human rights......THEN MOVE TO ONE. I can't wait til something happens to you and yours. You are the problem not guns. Why don't people like you actually look into history, see what happens to nations the ban people from defending themselves? Everything here is my opinion, and probably most sane people's opinion. So don't try crying about abuse.

      December 20, 2012 at 11:19 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • susan

        You ain't no patriot, boy.

        December 21, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Valerie

      Piers was fired from the British newspaper The Daily Mirror in 2004 for publishing a fake news story. Look it up.

      December 20, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Cameron

      Am I the only one who actually researches these statistics?

      Lott was actually right about Britain. The homicide rate in Britain was higher after the gun ban until 2008. Only in 2009-2012 do you see an actual reduction in the murder rate, and these reductions could be from a number of non-gun related reasons.

      December 20, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Clint

      It seems the gun "controlers" ha ha use the "fact" that there is something wrong with anyone who would want to defend themselves from whomever wtih a gun as exhibit no.1 Where they got this fact or how they obtained the all seeing eye to know who is naughty or nice I don't know. Name calling seems to be the key though. Just for the record two of our favorite dual citizens Feinstien and Schumer may have carry permits, just not sure. Which brings up a funny fact, it seems most of the gun control advocates are dual citizens. Meaning they are citizens of two countries this one and another.. Other notables, well I will say just go there. google," dual citizenship – loyal to whom" by dan eden, I think you will start to get the picture as to why (our goverment) fabricated infomation then proceeded to create rubble in Irap. Why Americans don't care that the information was fabricated, who knows. Then there is the Dupleted uranium we used still causing all types of health problems and birth effects. Sorry, back to topic sorry ladies you really don't need that 22 pistol to defend yourself against that lunatic stalking you.

      December 20, 2012 at 5:38 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • righttolive

      i respectfully agree with Mr. Downey. I also believe that gun manufacturers are at least partly to blame and should be held responsible as well. Look what happened to cigarette manufacturers? Guns sales make gun manufacturers BILLIONS each year, but just like car manufacturers or makers of medication, shouldn't there be responsibility somewhere? an innocent and really great product, ZICAM nasal gel supposedly made some people have smell issues. These few folks (and I mean FEW) protested and threatened lawsuits leading to the removal of Zicam nasal gel from the marketplace and banned it. this was a product that really worked and I miss it. Guns are for KILLING yet our regulations of them are almost NONE existent! The 2nd amendment was to raise a WELL-ORGANIZED militia (where there was NO law enforcement) and to allow isolated citizens the ability to hunt for their food! I believe in our country (more than any other) we have police forces and grocery stores within reasonable distances of most citizens. those few people that are more isolated in the mountains and VERY rural communities do NEED a gun probably- A GUN (singular)- to hunt for food and maybe even to protect themselves from the rare burglar or wild coyote! Some of our amendments may need amending or at least be put into perspective! I mean isoes he 1st amendment allow you to yell "FIRE" in a crowded building just for laughs? I won't even start on the 14th amendment...... Anyway- LESS guns manufactured and on the street will mean FEWER killings!

      December 24, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  3. David

    Please see this story out of Minneapolis:

    December 19, 2012 at 11:59 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  4. Griff.

    "Top leaders in the world, does not include idiot Obama! "

    December 20, 2012 at 12:00 am | Report abuse | Reply
  5. Douglas Raymond

    Mr. Morgan, the gentleman who pointed out that many time people with guns have saved the lives of others is correct. The Sandy Hook killings were awful things. Still, I am more afraid of what a US Govt., unconcerned about a Citizenry without guns, would take from the people, especially life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Our Govt has certainly already taken 2 of those things from me with their idiotic economic policies in favor of the rich (including you, Mr. Morgan) in this country. Gun ownership is PRIMARILY to protect us and you, the Free Press, from overarching Govt authoritarianism – especially the entrenched Govt workers who do NOT believe in the Bill Of Rights. I want my freedom, I want my Bill of Rights unfettered.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:07 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Charles

      I fully agree with you. It's a right, and it shouldn't have to be explained. Further more I'm not a big fan of how Mr. Morgan stacked the deck, most of his guests being proponents of gun control, and the one or two people who were against gun legislation were simply over run, berated, and close to verbally abused.

      I'd love to have a civilized conversation about gun control, this was not it.

      December 20, 2012 at 12:46 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • JW

      I agree with you all about Piers and his blatant refusal to hear an opposing opinion. It seems that Morgan is incapable of being a fair reporter, if someone doesn't agree with his opinion then they are idiotic, and anyone who even tries to explain how guns have saved lives is never allowed to finish a thought and treated like Robert Blake when he was abused as a guest. These reports seem to allows brag of how we should deregulate drugs and make their possession less punishable and yet they assume that we gun owners are all raving lunatics that stick a gun down our pants and parade around threatening people, and when they preach the great achievements of groups like MADD, all I can do is laugh, because everyday drunks are out on the roads and kill more people than any gun crime. He needs to get off his high horse and quite bragging about his expertise on guns because his limey brother servers in a queens army, he should show a damn site more respect to Americans and our guns considering that the British ask for so many of them when they were getting their behinds handed to them. I will never trust what he has to say, and just because he is in our country doesn't mean he deserves to be, what ever happened to all those people you Brits spied on in the phone hacking cases, I am sure that's were you learned your journalistic integrity from. People in America own guns because we can, and we also remember the massacres like those in West Virginia, when heavily armed private company guards with machine guns murdered coal miners for trying to form a union. Brag about foreign countries and their lack of guns, but remember that our country is full of people who escaped those countries and their oppressive ways. Communist China's strict gun laws; well I am sure that's for the peoples protection, and not so they don't rebel against their dictators or something.

      December 20, 2012 at 4:01 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • JT

        I agree as well, I think he does that to ensure that his opponent is flustered and cannot stay on track with the points they would like to make. I agree a good debate is what this idiot needs as i think he would lose everytime. If I had a chance to debate this issue with anyone i wouldnt pass it up. Id really like to stuff morgans idiotic theories down his throat and see him sit there eating his own words because I have has numbers busted and i have solutions that dont even include congress or politics. But he would never have a sensible person on that actually makes good points.

        December 20, 2012 at 5:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Kathy

      Complete nonsense! Who is saying take away guns from all citizens? The fear mongering and idiocy of your arguments and beyond rephensible. Think about those dead children... If these guns had not been alowed to begin with we would not be having this discussion. The must and will be banned together with the high capacity clips. We will not rest until this is DONE.

      December 20, 2012 at 8:07 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • earthstarr

        Kathy, I can tell from your posts that you are quite emotional, but be careful that your emotions are not affecting your reason. You accuse others of fearmongering, but are you not doing the same by personifying the gun as enemy? Sadly, the gun is not at fault. The gun has no emotions, no mental illness, not hate for the children.

        And when you say that "we will not rest," what do you mean really? What specifically are you going to do other than urge legislators to pass bills? Be wary of hyperbole as it can undo and diminish your arguments.

        December 20, 2012 at 7:49 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Dan

    The issue of gun control in the U.S. dates back to the Wild West, where towns who wanted to bring peace and civilization to the frontier passed laws and ordinances which prohibited the carrying of personal firearms within the city limits. In Dodge City, and Witchita Kansas, the early prohibition of carrying weapons in the town were a key element to bringing peace to those towns. It was never a serious consideration that allowing for an expansion of carrying weapons would lead to peace, it always led to more violence.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:10 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kathy

      Thank you for that Dan. I agree completely.

      December 20, 2012 at 8:09 am | Report abuse | Reply
  7. Mike

    Time for piers to go back to England .

    December 20, 2012 at 12:18 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Vern

      Piers reminds us all of why we fought the Revolution. His arrogant self righteousness is astounding. He calls John Lott a liar and refuses to let him respond. Yet when asked what laws he thinks would have prevented the shootings, he ignores the question. The beauty of his personal campaign is that it is having the opposite affect of what he intended. People are buying AR15s as fast as they can. Go Piers!

      December 20, 2012 at 3:05 am | Report abuse | Reply
  8. sumit

    Piers, why can't we have a nationwide poll (like the presidential election) to decide the fate of guns?

    December 20, 2012 at 12:19 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Charles

      Majority rule with minority rights protected.

      We can not simply vote to take someones rights away, no matter how much we don't like something.

      December 20, 2012 at 12:47 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • dave

      Because this is a republic, not a democracy. Our founding fathers were very wise. If 99 people voted to take away the 1st Amendment and 1 voted to keep it. The 1 person would win. They are called rights for a reason. They can't be taken away.
      Sounds like you need to move to a foreign country. You can have no rights at all. Should make you happy. I'll stay here in the greatest country in the world.

      December 20, 2012 at 6:23 am | Report abuse | Reply
  9. mmqelc

    Piers, Thank you for being a strong voice for common sense on the issue of guns in America. Your courage and advocacy is heartening during a time of such grief and sorrow from gun violence. Please don't back down. The thousands of victims and the citizens of America need strong voices like yours to speak up for us. Thank you.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:24 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ken Kozak

      Your patronizing does nothing to help form a solution. To give kudo's to an individual who failed to engage in a meaningful conversation is equivilent to saying the guy with the biggest weapon wins. This type of behavior does anyone, any good, much less advance any kind of answer. Your logic is as flawed as anyone else's, and yet you cheer it on. Pity.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:38 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • mustangvoodoo1

      Piers, a few brief comments and then a brazen challenge to which I am POSITIVE you will most certainly pretend you didn't see
      If you want to have a meaningful conversation about American citizen's rights to own a firearm or an Assault Weapon(whatever that means) I implore YOU to have a clue as to what you are talking about.

      You made numerous ridiculous statements earlier this evening. 1) about renaming AR-15's for what they really are: Military Machine Guns. Wrong ! They are NOT machine guns, they are semi-automaticweapons

      2)You want a ban on AR-15's, OK which ones? What? Oh yes Mr. Morgan, an AR-15 is NOT a specific weapon good sir, it is a platform. Numerous manufacturers make these platforms. Which caliber would you suggest being banned?
      .22LR / .223 / 5.56 . The typical bolt action and Semi-auto hunting rifles such as the 30.06 and 30.30 are FAR more powerful that even the AR-15 platform chambered in 5.56

      3)You asked an irrelevant question that has no correct answer. You asked how many rounds can an AR-15 fire per second. OK first what kind of AR-15 chambered in what caliber? There is NO answer Piers. Semi-Automatic weapon means one round is fired and ejected per trigger pull. You further go on to state an AR-15 can fire up to 100 rounds per minute. OK you really need to be educated on this subject. Are you sitting down Piers? Good! Now, the M4A1 fully automatic carbine has a cyclic rate of 850 rounds per minute. Even these fully automatic versions are usually utilized by military special forces. Even the US Army and Marine Corps realize that a fully automatic carbine is not superior to control aimed fire. Current M4's are no longer fully automatic, they are semi-automatic select fire which is one trigger pull per spent round and a three round burst per trigger pull.
      You lament that an AR-15 (again you do NOT specify which caliber the weapon is chambered in) can fire 4 to 6 rounds a second and up to 100 rounds per minute. That math does NOT add up Mr. Morgan. By your own calculations, an AR-15 can fire up to 360 rounds a minute.
      Piers, I agree that a dialogue MUST be established to address many issues related towards firearms. I agree that all sales of all firearms in the INITIAL purchase should be subject to 100% background checks

      In regard to dealing with straw purchases, I believe that if the individual who is attempting to purchase a firearm has a spouse who is disqualified from firearm ownership, then said individual should NOT be allowed to purchase a firearm.

      I disagree with your desire to see a national database that contains the names of all citizens with firearms. I see that as a precurser to law enforcement visiting each and every citizen to confiscate these weapons at some point in the future

      In closing, How about you debate a layman, me? I am a disabled veteran medically retired from the US Army. I am an AR-15 platform owner. All I ask is that you allow questions to be answered. I will answer every question you throw out head on. Of course you or your staff will ignore this challenge or pretend NOT to see it. Well then how about a debate with someone, ANYONE? Bring in a member of the NRA, all we as citizens ask is that YOU just let them answer your questions fully without cutting them off and you answer any questions they may have for you.

      Well what do you think?

      December 20, 2012 at 4:11 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Paul

        Excellent post. Very informative. Piers also made another gaff when talking about the shells. He stated, if I remember correctly, that the shells in an AR15 enter the body and explode. That may or may not be true depending on the type of bullets the shooter used. Some bullets are used for piercing and exiting the body. This is commonly the type of shell used by the military. The thought process being that if we kill the enemy with one shot, his buddies won't try to help him. If we can wound him, then it will expose one or two more enemy soldiers to our fire as they try to help their wounded buddy. The exploding shell is used for hunting and by snipers where one shot is all you are likely going to get to kill what ever it is you are after. I am not sure but I do not think the type of shell used last Friday has been released. Maybe Piers can find that out today and tell us tonight.

        December 20, 2012 at 9:52 am | Report abuse |
      • earthstarr

        Thank you, mustangvoodoo1. You have provided the facts that were woefully missing in Morgan's monologue, or should I say diatribe. Isn't it amazing how real facts, as opposed to presumed facts can help illucidate an argument. Kudos!

        December 20, 2012 at 8:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • shaun

        Shut your trap, and reach for the meds. Your lot is done in this country. You can bark all what you want indecent troll. Nothing you and you lot has to say make any sense anymore.

        December 21, 2012 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • avid gun owner

      congats pierce,its time someone got ugly,no one hunts more or has enjoyed guns more than I,but I would gladly give up all my guns to have those children back ,ive not yet heard mention of the money being made off of these types of guns, and now prices are higher than ever, looks to me like all of these gun mfgs are making a killing off of these childrens deaths, also whats a .45 going to do in the hands of a teacher at a range of 200 ft ,which most school halls are at least that long,when a shooter has a scoped ar-15 in a .223 cal,i know who would win

      December 20, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Paul

        "making a killing off of these children's deaths"? Seriously? You couldn't have come up with a better way to put that?

        December 20, 2012 at 2:34 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Brad

    I am extremely LIBERAL and Piers Morgan has always been one of my favorite commentators. I watched him the other night when he was incredibly RUDE to a few people he had on his show while talking about guns and it disgusted me. I saw where he was doing this show tonight, with several different types of guests, and I see he is being EXACTLY the same way. He won't let anyone speak. He just keeps yelling HIS opinions on this subject and they are highly UNINFORMED. I am turning the show off now and will not watch him again I am so disgusted with his behavior. I will leave Piers with this thought though to mull on.

    Most homes in Switzerland have a fully automatic SIG 550 (TRUE) assault rifle, since all able bodied men are required to be in the Swiss army. Despite this, Switzerland has a homicide rate of 0.7 per 100,000 people compared to the US homicide rate of 4.2. The US where automatic weapons are outlawed has 6 times the homicide rate as Switzerland. The issue is not gun laws, it is anger management. Why is it that American are 6 times more likely to kill than the Swiss? That is that is the issue that needs to be solved. And it is NOT all about guns. Can he get that through is thick skull???

    December 20, 2012 at 12:31 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Paul

      Piers is very rude and clearly has no understanding or respect for the culture in which he lives in as a guest. I want to see good discussion – both sides (I support broad rights on owning guns) – and the person who has the most compelling argument wins the audience, not this shoving an opinion down everyone's throat. Little does Piers know, his conduct is contributing to this nationwide rush on purchasing large ammo clips and semi automatic rifles. No one wants to hear a Brit tell us Americans what the proper action is, let alone doing is such a rude, condescending way.

      December 20, 2012 at 12:51 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Sean

        Paul, excellent points! I was absolutely disgusted by his behavior the past few nights. He needs to remember he is a guest here in our homeland. He has not grown up with the culture we have, nor have we his. I would not expect to go to the UK and be able to live my life the way I have in the USA. Piers needs to learn what he is talking about regarding these types of weapons before he spouts off numbers and statistics. These weapons are only semi-automatic and can only fire one round as fast as the trigger can be pulled. You physically cannot fire 4-6 rounds in a second. Also a round from a 5.56 comes in many different types of which military grade ammo is not available to the public. We don"t know what type of rounds were fired, but if I had to guess I would say a typical ball round. What makes a 5.56 so lethal is that the round is designed to tumble when it strikes and enters the body, this causes a massive wound cavity. These weapons in the right hands are perfectly safe and should not be banned. Had they been banned when the North Hollywood bank robbery took place during the 1990's and not been available to the LAPD from a local gun shop, the casualty count would have been much higher.

        December 21, 2012 at 9:07 am | Report abuse |
      • J S

        I suggest if you don`t like him don`t watch him. Why is everyone do focused on debate. How do you debate whether weapons meant for the military use should be allowed to freely roam around the country killing people in theatres, elementary schools, etc. The 2nd amendment does not say every individual should have whatever gun they want and however many they need to form their own militia. If that were the case, I could have tanks and rocket launchers. Dec 21, 2012... this may be the turning point of where we lose our common sense and decency and honor. The NRA is speaking today, the spoke`s people for all that is wrong with gun violence and foolish logic. To me, "guns don`t kill people, people kill people` is more offensive than any based upon color, religon or ethic origin, it offends all humanity and those trying to live in a civil world.

        December 21, 2012 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
      • Barry


        "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED". Thats it...period.

        December 21, 2012 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
    • Ken Kozak

      Brad, thank you for your post. I am a centrist, more like an independent but I see society for what it is, and what we need it to be. That being said, I too looked forward to watching and listening tonight. Piers Morgan has made it very plain that he will exploit this to his own benefit. His self contrived "outrage", conviently runs in parallel with the headlines of the hour. I believe fully that this is a result of his years as a tabloid journalist and the shock value he acquires when resorting to such tactics. Too bad a valuable chance at a national discourse on a sensitive subject were disrupted by his rantings. Unfortunately for CNN, his baffonery simply casts them in an unfavorable light, and clearly not the masthead to weather this storm. I will be sure to let as many people know what transpired.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:47 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • JT

        Thank you both as I am an independent as well. As ken said i realize the world we live in and offer helpful and realistic strategies. If more folks with tv shows used there resources for accurate facts and meaningful debate instead of idiotic pile ons like this we'd be far more informed and further ahead to helping with personal safety.

        December 20, 2012 at 5:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Martin

      Everybody criticizing the very unprofessional manner used by Piers is very right, we have to be able to distinguish right from wrong. CNN should pay more attention to the journalists they hire, I was forced trough tremendous arrogance from Morgan to make this comment about how poor he can make CNN look with his childish brat, and uninformed way of conducting a debate. He is humiliating fathers and husbands and teachers in the eyes of the entire world, its a shame, he only wants his guests to say what he wants to hear not what they have to say in order to make their contribution in trying to tell the american people the bottom facts on this matter before change is made.
      CNN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT^, Its been too long, and very sistematic.
      Thanks everyone. Shame on you Morgan, you are not ready to seat in that chair. "A good leader is a great listener" and you are far behind that.

      December 20, 2012 at 8:10 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Justin

      Brad, you failed to mention that those Swiss militia-men are not allowed to have ammo for those rifles at home since 2007. It's in interesting point, but not really comparable to the current situation in the US.

      December 20, 2012 at 9:29 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • kirk

      Again, Brad I don't believe your claims. You are quoting pro gun nonsense. I lived and worked in Switzerland for years. The Swiss are issued a rifle and sealed ammunition subject to random police inspections with jail sentences if the seals have been tampered with. All ammunition is strictly controlled. One can practice with one's rife but the ammunition is purchased at the controlled range and empty shells are counted and no ammunition may leave the range or there are strict punishments.

      Americans have this need to "explain" things they only have a precursory knowledge of. If you want to reply "Brad" please do it in French or German since you have such a knowledge of Switzerland. I speak both. I can even mange Schweizerdeutsch form time to time.

      Sie sind ueberhaput keine Links mensch. Das glaube ich nicht.

      December 23, 2012 at 9:05 am | Report abuse | Reply
  11. Scott Mester

    Sir , I wish you would have let everyone talk . This is a far too important a discussion to act they way you did . Gun owners are the very people we need to help us come up with good tough laws that have a chance to work.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:31 am | Report abuse | Reply
  12. Sumeet


    See how incidents like this increase gun sales...

    We can debate if crime rate increases or decreases... Can this pro guns gentleman provide any reason what so ever why we need to carry an assault weapon ?

    December 20, 2012 at 12:34 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Paul

      Carrying a semi-automatic rifle, as I presume you mean carrying it around in public, is illegal. Semi-autos account for less than 2% of all murders by firearm. In the event you need to defend your home, they are much more accurate than a handgun, and handguns account for most homicides by firearm – the kids getting killed in Chicago count too. I've shot both a handgun and semi-automatic rifle. Handguns require constant practice to remain accurate, whereas a semi-auto with its longer barrel is going to be easier to hit the target.

      December 20, 2012 at 12:58 am | Report abuse | Reply
  13. maureen

    Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. This program was a ray of hope in the darkness. A little sanity in an insane world. Please don't stop educating the public and disseminating truth from lies.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:36 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Piers Isadouch

      lol...yet another CNN staffer trying to balance the overhwhelming negatove response to Piers; show. what a sheeple!

      December 20, 2012 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  14. AlBrown

    Piers – You are not an American and you have no business commenting on our second amendment rights. You and many others in the news media are guilty of using images of the CT victims to vilify gun owners and stir up anger toward the NRA and all the law abiding, responsible gun owners in this country. DO NOT label us as crazy, violent, paranoid, or barbaric people because we like to hunt, shoot for recreation, or just be able to protect our families. I respect someone's decision not to own a gun but don't attach the rest of us that enjoy our second amendment rights responsibly. Try directing your anger toward the shooter and hope that his soul is in a very bad place for what he did.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:36 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Gretchen Sue

      wake up....don't try to justify the actions of others....having a gun is a right but "you" don't need a assault rifle like your neighbor enough to think about them too!!!!!

      December 20, 2012 at 12:55 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • James

        So, we should get rid of "these weapons" just because you think non-military should not have access to them. Obviously, there are people who feel that access to "these weapons" should not be restricted. Their opinion is JUST AS valid as, and carries the same weight as, your opinion.

        December 20, 2012 at 1:54 am | Report abuse |
  15. martinex

    The question we need to be asking is: What are white Americans so afraid of? Let's face it. The vast majority of gun buyers are paranoid White People getting ready for what they believe will be a 2nd civil war in America. I have colleagues warning me every day to buy a gun and get ready for what's coming. What exactly do they believe is coming? Some sort of zombie apocalypse? What can the rest of us do to ease these fears?

    December 20, 2012 at 12:36 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • AlBrown

      I've seen the ridiculous tv shows talking about the apocalypse and zombies and that doesn't represent the majority of responsible gun owners. I know many people including business owners, medical doctors, lawyers, and family members that own a gun and care for it responsibly so please don't judge all of us so quickly. I don't live in fear of the government or aliens but I know crime and home invasions happen so I want to be able to protect my wife and baby the best way I can. I'm not a superhero and I'd rather not take on an intruder with my bare hands so having a gun in a locked safe next to my bed makes me feel better. I know, there's a slim chance that I will have to use it but you should always be prepared , whether it's for a disaster, snow storm, home invasion, etc..

      December 20, 2012 at 12:42 am | Report abuse | Reply
  16. Paul

    Piers, google critical thinking and learn to seek the root cause instead of covering up a symptom. That's what reporters are supposed to do. Ask the question, are we trying to stop the slaughter of innocent Americans or are we trying ban assault rifles? Assuming you would respond the former, ask yourself what is causing the mass murders? Guns or evil/mentally ill people? If you answer guns, then ask yourself if the mass murders would of been stopped if assault rifles were banned. Most likely not, since other guns and means would be available. Ask yourself, if the evil/mentally ill person is taken out of the equation, would the mass murders happen? No they wouldn't!!!! Now ask, if these people weren't mentally ill would they murder as they did? No they wouldn't! So, mental illness seems to be the constant in all these mass murders. Looking in this direction will get us to the root cause and eventual solution.


    December 20, 2012 at 12:36 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ken Kozak

      Paul you nailed it on the head. Any other reaction is simply a knee jerk with unintended consequences, and will fail to deal with the root layer of the problem. Unfortunately, shows like tonight are a great example why the mental health debate will not get the coverage that gun control will. Journalism, or that version that Piers Morgan calls journalism, seeks to employ the largest audience, seeks to get headlines, and does so in a sensationalistic manner. This overshadows all common sense, all logic, and fails to deliver the participants to an achievable goal. It is a shame that it is called journalism.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:56 am | Report abuse | Reply
  17. Shane

    The problem is not guns! The problem is people. People have killed people...slaughtered people since the beginning of time. King Herod did it with swords and knives. There were no guns 2000 years ago, but it still happened. Peirs just pointed out bullet holes in a car outside the Sandy Hook school...claiming they were from the assault rife that Lanza used. I could go outside right now and shoot my car with any one of my guns (none of which happen to be an AR type) and the bullet holes would look exactly the same. Lanza could have entered that school with nothing but a handgun, numerous magazines for that handgun and still have 100's of rounds and achieved the same amount of devastation! The fact is that Lanza was mentally unstable, ill! People kill people, NOT guns. They do it everyday with many things...not just guns. As far as banning AR' a Father of 4...knowing that many criminals have and will continue to obtain AR's illegally...I would rather have the ability to obtain the same type of firepower to defend my family as those that would attack them! ALSO, I'm so sick of hearing statistics comparing crime/gun rates of the United States to Britain or Australia...the US has more than 5 times the population of Britain and more than 15 times the population of Australia...OUR RATES AND STATISTICS WILL BE HIGHER NO MATTER WHAT...WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE!!!

    December 20, 2012 at 12:37 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Amanda

      Even as a percentage based on population America's rates are high compared to other countries....why? You cannot ignore that fact.

      December 20, 2012 at 12:26 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Russ Pettifer

      Five times the population of Britain and a thousand times the murder rate...

      December 20, 2012 at 7:00 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Russ Pettifer

        Correction and apologies for not being awake – one hundred times the murder rate...

        December 20, 2012 at 7:01 pm | Report abuse |
  18. concerned

    Expected from your Piers, to ask a question of your guest then wrongly accuse him of lying based on your personal opinions rather than facts. The facts about Britain have nothing to do with what is happening in the U.S. He is correct that where guns are allowed, crime rates and murders have declined. A horrific tragedy at Sandy Hook-so much that I and I am sure many others, cannot even go one day without crying over the beautiful lives we lost. Everyone is pointing a finger at guns as a release for something to blame. It is the mentally sick people holding those weapons who are killing-they will find a way without guns. Stop blaming guns and look for the real problem like poor parenting and insufficient medical services provided to those with mental issues. You are a disgrace for not allowing your guest to speak his peace before you rudely cut him off. We could not even hear what he had to say as you spoke your mind over his. Get the facts on American statistics related to gun laws and corresponding drop in gun violence in those areas.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:37 am | Report abuse | Reply
  19. American

    your complete lack of respect for equal access to dialog on this issue shows what an incompetent journalist you are. I've lost all respect for you. You should go back to Britain and let America deal with our issues instead of trying to spin the story to support your own agenda. Clearly did not want that man to speak freely that facts, you persisted in continuously interrupting him and refused to let him speak to offer a rebuttal to your claims. Then you rudely told him not interrupt you when you continued to talk over him. How ironic. By only allowing your opinion to be heard, which has no statistical validity, you undermined your legitimacy as a journalist. You are afraid to hear the TRUTH. The statistics I have read also show that passing laws against guns DOES NOT reduce crime. People who are defenseless are the ones who repeatedly are being attacked. CNN...its appalling you let incompetent, jerks have a platform that are completely lacking in journalistic ethics. Go HOME Piers.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:38 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • AlBrown

      Notice how Piers asks a question, then interrupts and yells at the people responding? He keeps getting upset and saying how ANGRY he is thinking of the poor children. Try directing your anger toward the shooter and not the guns, NRA, or the gun owners of this country.

      December 20, 2012 at 12:47 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Canadian living in Texas

      Could not have said it better. Hard for Mr. Morgan to accomplish his goals or gain respect for his views on a topic – when he was out rite rude and disrespectful to many of his guests (selectively). I have neither owned a gun in my life and likely never will. But I will choose to watch another program – to gain more perspective on these sensitive and important topic.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:02 am | Report abuse | Reply
  20. Brad

    I am probably the ultimate dichotomy on the “gun control” discussion. I am a 22 year VET. I am quite LIBERAL. I also own a LOT of guns. Those would include almost the same 3 guns that idiot kid took into that school to commit this horrific crime with. Mine are a GLOCK 23 – 40 CAL, Berretta 9mm, Bushmaster AR-15. In addition I have an AK-47, a Mossberg 12 gauge shotgun, Sig Sauer M11-A1 9mm pistol, SIG SAUER P220R Compact 45 CAL, a Remington Model 700 30-06, a Winchester 30-30, a Ruger 22 long rifle and a 22 semi-automatic pistol. And I am an expert marksman with every single one of them. I hold military expert marksman medals on a variety of rifles and pistols. And just for the record, contrary to what you keep hearing in the media…. The AK-47 and Bushmaster AR-15 models in America are NOT assault rifles. Assault rifles must be FULLY AUTOMATIC to be technically considered assault rifles. The AK-47 is available outside the country in this form. MANY military’s of the world use it. The AR-15 is also available in the assault rifle form, but in THAT form it is known as the U.S. Military’s M-16 machine gun.
    Do I need all these guns? Of course not. But I enjoy shooting them. I grew up in the Pacific Northwest and was hunting big game and various bird varieties by the time I was 9. I grew up with a Dad who was ULTRA ANAL on gun safety, and as a result I always have been too. I love guns and there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with that if you are a RESPONSIBLE person that has been properly trained in the use of weapons by somebody who knows what they are talking about and you take care to make sure those weapons are not easily accessible to those who do not know how to use them safely, or should never get their hands on them to begin with. But therein lies our dilemma now days………
    As adamantly as I love guns and my right to own them and use them responsibly… I will be among the first to say we have serious issues in this country. This newest tragedy in Connecticut literally made me cry I don’t know how many times as I watched it unfolding. It is sad beyond words and my heart aches for all the families who lost loved ones and friends. How do we keep this from happening again? The simple, honest, and horrible truth is…. We won’t. There are already well over 300 MILLION weapons in the hands of private individuals in this nation. What does that mean? It means you could stop ALL sales of EVERY TYPE OF WEAPON in this country tomorrow and it is already too late. These events are going to continue to happen. That is the simple truth.
    Are there things we can do to cut down on these horrific events? I believe so. But the answer is much more complex than just updating gun laws, which I personally believe can and should be updated. Stricter laws will not preclude me, a law abiding and responsible individual from purchasing guns. If it makes me have to wait even a MONTH before I can actually receive the gun because they have done ADEQUATE checks on me, should that matter? Heck no. But it could very well matter in the case of someone trying to buy a gun when they are in the middle of being disturbed about something like having been fired from their job that day. Or a fight with a friend or relative, or, or, or. But serious discussion on the violence in America will need to include a heck of a lot more than JUST guns. It will require taking a serious look at the how we portray violence in TV, movies and video games. It would require taking a serious look at how much news coverage these fruitcakes get when they do something this horrendous. It would require taking a look at why the MORAL fabric of this country is coming undone. And I don’t mean religion necessarily; I mean how we treat each other and respect each other. It would require looking at how QUICKLY we can get people who need mental help that help. These people that for whatever reason feel like they are nothing, realize they can take 20 minutes and be forever embedded in American history. Curbing this kind of violence in America is much more complex than just guns. Piers does not seem to understand this concept.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:39 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Charles

      thank you for your service, and thank you for being a bastion of sanity here.

      Don't take our guns because you're afraid of them, only take them if they will genuinely do some good for this situation. Focusing on guns is, as usual, the easiest thing to do, when the discussion needs to be far more involved then just guns, or just mental health, or just video games.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:02 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ken Kozak

      Fellow veteran, thank you for your service! You post was well done and a tribute to reasoning. I too have several guns, was raised around guns, and like you, qualified as an expert on several different types. I found Piers Morgan to be a distraction to the discussion, as opposed to an answer. The only other thing I would wish to add is this; The shooting made many of us cry, made many of us sick to our stomachs at the maddening lack of sense behind it all. Now, it appears as though the media is sensationalizing it and wishing to use that as a tool to effect the American Psyche.... I find that as disgusting almost as much as the shooting, and it DISHONORS those that died. To attempt to use their demise as a plank for an ultra leftist gun controlling agenda, thats sick. I agree with you whole heartedly when you point out that a longer waiting period is not only reasonable, it would be a move made in wisdom. That is just one of the things that could be done, and there are more, but unfortunately, due to Piers Morgan making his headlines as papparazi are tend to do, those other measures were never brought up. Sad.

      December 20, 2012 at 2:08 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Amanda

      Well said, it is a cultural change which is required and that will take time.

      December 20, 2012 at 12:37 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  21. Name*Brenda

    This show was not a discussion. It was Piers' Morgan's one-sided attempt to berate anyone on his guest panel that disagrees with him. I am 100% anti- automatic weapons, but the raised voices and name calling will get us nowhere in this discussion. Morgan is a guest in this country. He should tread lightly in criticizing a country and its people who has invited him in and get off his British pedestal. Perhaps if he shut his trap for a minute, let people talk and process what they are saying, we could get somewhere. His ranting reveals not his passion, but his immaturity as a human being. It is a shame to use the power of his show in this manner.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:40 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Paul

      I whole heatedly agree with you. Piers shows over and over how uninterested he is in listening to anyone other than himself. He obviously gets off on thinking he is morally superior and using this anti-gun crusade to stroke his own ego. If he was serious he would actually be interested in someone else's point of view instead of making his same one-sided points over and over at the expense of any real discussion.

      December 20, 2012 at 12:48 am | Report abuse | Reply
  22. Brett Cosor

    I cannot believe that CNN is so hard up for ratings that you are allowing Piers Morgan to run this show the way he is so soon after the massacre. Tomorrow night, is he going to dance on the graves of those children to boost ratings?

    This is not a thoughtful problem resolving effort, it is blind greed by idiots who cannot do any better.

    Send him back to Rupert Murdoch so he can hack into dead children's cell phones for a living. At least we won't have to see this.

    I have never been so angry. This is garbage. Who is he to come here and treat us like this?

    I guess now that Time Warner dumped CNN it has to harvest dead children to make money.

    Shame on you, shame on you. Can the money you are making really make up for dumping this mindless crap on America?

    December 20, 2012 at 12:42 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Paul

      Yes, shame on you CNN for putting this garbage on the air and letting Piers exploit this massacre so he can pretend to be the hero.

      December 20, 2012 at 12:50 am | Report abuse | Reply
  23. Robert

    Any proposal for gun control should answer two questions: (1) Would this law have kept the last four mass shootings from happening? (2) What is the basis for the claim of (1) & be able to cite substantial references . Anything else is just bluster, no matter who is saying it.
    A question to consider as you listen to these discussions, see if you can find someone who can explain what the term "assault rifle" means? What makes it different than any other semi-automatic rifle?
    I am very disgusted with the way Piers comported himself during this recent show. It is clear he has no first hand knowledge of firearm usage including target shooting and hunting and does not understand how firearms are used in these pursuits. There also a wealth of facts and analysis that would help the discussion,and could be presented to educate the public. Piers would do well to gain some understanding of the subject before he pontificates. It is not as simple as he believes.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:43 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Russ Pettifer

      You'll have to go back up to the posts by Brad and Ken Kozak, (12:10am?) as both are worth reading...

      You had asked, Robert, would this (or any) law have kept the last four mass shootings from happening? In a black and white world the answer is no. But that is not the issue. The world can't be such simple terms, and as simple as we'd like things to be there are other considerations.

      Any incident requires two separate and very distinct parts to come together – motivation (call it frame of mind) and opportunity. Laws are like locks – made for law abiding citizens only. If someone has a sufficient motivation there isn't any number of laws or regulations or penalty that will deter him. That leaves opportunity, and that is what the discussion is primarily concerned with when speaking of "control". If there are regulations on ownership that extend the waiting period, background checks, proper training for handling and safe storage, as well as limiting the type of ordnance available, that serves to limit the opportunity of a deranged person to acquire and use these weapons. And again – I'm not naive – that only limits the opportunity, but it is a start.

      December 20, 2012 at 11:22 am | Report abuse | Reply
  24. Richard

    Piers, you need to get you facts straight. Just heard you say that semi-automatic weapons can fire 3-4 rounds a second. WRONG!!!! A semi-auto only fires as fast as you can pull the trigger. Only a full-auto can fire that fast. I do not know of anyone that can pull the trigger that fast.The other two guns that the shooter in Sandy Hook had were also semi-auto weapons and fire just as quick as a AR-15. You and all the other non-educated reporters are miss informing the public. I spent two years in England while in the U.S.A.F. defending your country. Your welcome! Please if you are going to come to the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA then speak the truth, if you want to try to blow smoke up someone's behind then go back to England. Watching you as I type show respect to your AMERICAN guest's and stop interupting them. When you go back to England do us AMERICANS a favor and take Nancy Grace with you.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:43 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • richard

      P.S. GUNS DO NOT KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE. Timothy McVeigh did not use a gun, guns were not used on 911, box knifes were so you think we should ban box knifes. Why are you in our country, do they not want you in England

      December 20, 2012 at 1:27 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Commenter

      This was not a debate.
      -Play sement of grieving parent (nothing to do with the debate itself)
      -Shout down opposing views (facts) without defending with his own reasoned rebuttal
      -Repeat emotional rants (this is not debate)
      -Four to six per second is not 100 per minute. Who's lying now?

      December 20, 2012 at 9:56 am | Report abuse | Reply
  25. Gene

    Lets address parenting, the upbringing of the people of these crimes. Oh just not about the "birds and the bees" but about life and how you live your life. I received my first gun at 10yrs old. So I've had access to guns for a long time. Having said that, do I not need 30 rounds to kill a deer, I would say hunting isn't your game....give up. Strange what I had to do to get a license to drive, but it was just my Father that taught me about guns, the right and wrong. Lastly...I see how good the drug laws have work..... on how fast can a semi-auto weapon fast can a individual pull the trigger? Semi-auto, one pull, one fire.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:44 am | Report abuse | Reply
  26. Ritz

    I feel the same way that Piers Morgan feels about current gun laws and in addition I think we need to discuss in depth the issues we have about mentall illness in America. Unfortunately I have changed the channel multiple times during the last few days because Mr. Morgan does not allow the guest with oposite views to speak. I regularly watch the show but it is not beneficial to see two people try to talk over each other.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:46 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Charles

      Thank you. Though I hold an opinion opposite to yours I do like seeing that most people on this board are getting it. This was not a debate. It wasn't interesting to watch and it didn't give either side new insight. If anything we are further now from an agreement then before this show aired...

      December 20, 2012 at 7:12 am | Report abuse | Reply
  27. Barb Ahrens

    I am SO sick of Piers not letting anyone speak unless they agree with him. WTH is wrong with CNN for allowing his rude journalism? I am so disappointed because I was hoping to hear both sides, not just Piers.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:46 am | Report abuse | Reply
  28. Charley

    Dont sit in my country and get rich as a host on CNN and cut guests off when they try to answer.

    You are a pompous ass and should go back to the island we saved twice.

    Go away.

    You don't understand and you dont listen. You are as bad as the Sandy Hook shooter. Any opportunity to get attention.

    you want a debate? call a man.

    Im open.


    December 20, 2012 at 12:47 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Amanda

      You saved our island twice?! Hilarious!

      December 20, 2012 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  29. Tony Douglas

    I have watch Piers Morgan one time and noticed that his audience is those that agree with him, with the exception of maybe one or two. This way they can gain up on the ones that disagree with Morgan. And one other point, Morgan won't let them finish there statement and cuts them off. Fox News has better news

    December 20, 2012 at 12:47 am | Report abuse | Reply
  30. harith wickrema

    you are doing a great job. do appreciate your passion and bringing out the truth from your guests. we tune in to CNN to watch you due to your commitment to make a difference.
    one need a license drive. so why don't we make it a law to go through rules just like Israel .?

    December 20, 2012 at 12:48 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Teresa

      Excuse me? Israel? If you want to live like Israel-go there and live. This is America and we have maintained this country up to this point by living like Americans. You are the perfect example of what is wrong with this country and why it has gotten worse overall. Piers did a horrible job. All he did was interrupt and talk over his guest. How can you applaud or approve such bad manners being displayed? Certainly is now how people should treat each other. We are trying to make America a better place to live and that doesn't happen by cutting people off in the middle of their sentence and disrespecting them.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:02 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ken Kozak

      Harith?...did you watch the same show I watched? (before Piers continually interupting anyone who had something to add to the discussion he didn't like) I am not sure if you are from the USA or not, but if you are let me ask you this: Do you enjoy your right to vote? Do you enjoy your right to free speech? Do you enjoy the right to a legal process? Do you enjoy your right to assemble? Do you enjoy your..... the list will continue until your all of your rights are listed... and then ask yourself this; What are they worth? Well, they COST my family in terms of blood and life. We have served our country honorably, myself and my brothers and we did so to defend these rights... one of which includes the right to keep and bear arms. There is a good reason it is in there, some pretty wise individuals thought it was necessary way back when, and in doing so, they gave us the means to defend the aforementioned rights that YOU enjoy. IF you are a citizen. Before you go applauding Piers Morgan and the way he shut down any meaningful discourse, rather rudely I might add, maybe you should consider paying your share of defending those rights. (and then watch someone simply try to throw them away)... sickening

      December 20, 2012 at 2:20 am | Report abuse | Reply
  31. Dee

    Thank you!, Y ou are spot on! Why does the average person need military style weapons??? I remember tavelling to Europe years ago and everyone said oh your American you people shoot each other!! How embarrising !! Thats how we are known!! It's wrong!! You go piers!!!

    December 20, 2012 at 12:48 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Robert

      Please define the terms "Military style weapon" and/or "assault rifle." Do we even know what we are talking about?

      December 20, 2012 at 1:23 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Ken Kozak

        Military assualt style rifle... is one that simply looks like its fully automatic cousin, it is NOT automatic, and still requires pulling the trigger one time, for every shell that is fired. An automatic weapon, fires continually while the trigger is depressed. Hence, a major difference in the number of rounds per minute that can be fired. Most weapons, (rifles and pistols) are semi automatic. The only automatic rifles allowed by current law require a special federal firearms license, and not many are even available.

        December 20, 2012 at 2:25 am | Report abuse |
    • mustangvoodoo1

      Wow, really? Well here is MY answer. It's NONE of your F*****G business why I need or want or even better, why I do own Multiple AR-15 platforms. OH we can call it what you buddy Piers calls them, a military machine gun, Hahaha!!! Seriously? Anyone wants to establish dialogue on this most serious subject, then by all means let's talk. But please have a clue as to what you are talking about PRIOR to the discussion

      December 20, 2012 at 4:35 am | Report abuse | Reply
  32. Steve

    It is really great for our nation to discuss this issue of gun control. However, you cannot have an intelligent debate if you are constantly insulting and cutting off those who oppose your view. Not mature. Definitely not productive.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:49 am | Report abuse | Reply
  33. Name*johnnie

    Is pier Morgan a US citizen?
    Also this country including my self hate what happen to these children. However if this
    Insane person had drove his Ford pickup on the playground of this school and done the same thing. Would we be discussing banding
    Ford pickup trucks. The second amendment says right to bear arms. Not arms under 30 Rounds of ammunition. Also Mr. Mogans ancestors did not fight for our 2nd Admendment right. Go home if you don't like it. This will never be shown I'm sure
    Again GOD bless and be with the family's that lost love ones my prays go out to you
    Thank you

    December 20, 2012 at 12:49 am | Report abuse | Reply
  34. Larry McCorkle

    Mr. Morgan

    I just wanted to comment on the gun control debate. Guns don't kill people, the individual pulling the trigger does. Today's ;entertainment like video games and movies corrupt the minds of people, depicting that is OK to kill people and there won't be consequences for their actions. Examples of video games are Grand Theft Auto, Call of Duty, and Black Ops 2. I do believe however that there should be tighter back ground checks and mental health checks before purchasing firearms. Assault weapons shouldn't be banned jus;t more restrictions should be required before purchase the of them. Don't punish law biding citizens for the mistakes of a few psycho people.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:50 am | Report abuse | Reply
  35. Brad

    Piers Morgan is to CNN what Glenn Beck was to FOX. I no longer care a single word out of either of their mouths.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:51 am | Report abuse | Reply
  36. Elliott

    I would love to see Peirs debate Uncle Ted

    December 20, 2012 at 12:51 am | Report abuse | Reply
  37. trevor hopkins

    What a terrible show this was, shouting matches, cutting people off before they could finish. It was like watching a 7th grade debate.No mention about how the US government has given automatic weapons to mexican gangs, no mention of the gang culture, specifically rap musics infatuation with killing and robbing. The only guests you'd let speak their piece are the one's that would agree with you. why do you not talk about taking away the military's guns? Remember the massacre in Afghanistan? the US soldier who killed 17 civilians? Know why I like semi auto weapons? Because it's my only hope if I am ever up against an automatic weapon, the kind felon gang members have, the kind mexican gangs have, again thanks to Eric Holder. Let me reiterate, this was a terrible show made on a knee jerk reaction rather than though and reason.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:51 am | Report abuse | Reply
  38. Gen

    THANK YOU. I guess we've come full circle and we need a Brit to save the country that we founded in opposition to the Brits. You are a hero. The one person speaking the truth. Thank you.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:53 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Robert

      Actually, he said quite a bit that was not true. He was running on emotion, not information and facts. Really a pathetic display on his part.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:09 am | Report abuse | Reply
  39. pdavisnwa1

    Perhaps we should ask the Armenians about gun control and murderous governments. Perhaps Piers could ask the Scots and Irish about murderous governments. We could ask the Jews in Germany.... What about asking the MacDonald clan? Ask the Cambodians, the Ugandans, or any number of other disarmed peoples over the last 500 years whose government decided to butcher them. Please tell the Branch Davidians that the US Government would never assault its own citizens. Ask any number of the Native American tribes about the trustworthiness of the "benevolent" US Government.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:55 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Elliot

      Very well said
      Peirs has no idea about history and why we have the 2A only his agenda and making money off this tragedy.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:26 am | Report abuse | Reply
  40. j.c

    Mr Morgan a semi auto gun can only fire 1-2 times in a "quick second" the only time its 4-6 times is when this gun has been minipulated which is hard to do and very illegal, an easy 25 year sentence for tampering.

    I'll be glad to answer your question.

    These "semi auto" not automatic ARs are fun for guys to target shoot and they are law abiding folks. they are also fun for some guys to hunt coyotes from long distances. There are plenty of law abiding folks who own these guys for whatever reason and they are not going out hurting people.

    Stop using people's emotions to help push new polices!

    December 20, 2012 at 12:55 am | Report abuse | Reply
  41. David

    Piers you have a double chin! You need to get rid of that thing, it's starting to control you and make you look like an even bigger dummy. Lose the double chin, and maybe something that makes sense will come out of that mouth. I am going to make a prediction, CNN is going to fire you by the end of 2013. If you lose the double chin you might buy yourself a few more months. I know the BBC would probably take you, not your extra chin,.... What am I saying they are at least a half way respectable news organization... There is no way they would ever take you. Guess you will have to join kieth Olbrman over on currently dumb tv. ..... Your chin has a brain of its own, it is taking over your body. You are only a few years away from being nothing but a chin. That's just gross piers, hurry, not much time is left.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:56 am | Report abuse | Reply
  42. chills

    thank you piers for all you do. there are so many americans who dont get it. your work will i hope start to turn the tide in favor of knowledge and facts and a solution.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:57 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • trevor hopkins

      and in favor of criminals who don't give a damn about laws.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:02 am | Report abuse | Reply
  43. Brad

    Hey here is an idea. How about Piers do a show around how much damn publicity networks give these idiots when they committ these crimes? CNN has devoted almost their entire programming schedule to this story since it happened. That only feeds the desire of some of the idiots to one-up the last mass killer. ALL YOU NETWORKS ARE JUST AS GUILTY FOR PROMOTING CONTINUED GUN VIOLENCE IN THIS COUNTRY AS THE GUNS THEMSELVES.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:57 am | Report abuse | Reply
  44. kevin

    when are you going tio wake up Piers,,, guns don't kill people,, people kill people,, take your sorry ass back across the pond, and leave us alone

    December 20, 2012 at 12:58 am | Report abuse | Reply
  45. PTrick

    Piers you did terrible in this discussion. This was not a debate, this was Piers being a bully to everyone who did no share his opinion. A missed opportunity of an adult discussion of a tough topic. CNN let's get rid of Piers or at least give him some lessons on how to moderate a discussion and civil.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:59 am | Report abuse | Reply
  46. jay walters

    Piers sooo rude and no facts 4 to 6 rounds per second is way more per minute than 100 rounds per minute now piers which is it. Oh did you mean full auto gun or semi auto there is a difference. And have you ever handled or shot a gun before? Have you piers???

    December 20, 2012 at 12:59 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Paul

      No, Piers has no firearms experience obviously, although he will be the first to remind us that his brother is a colonel and that makes him an expert on the topic.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:03 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Shane

        I cringe every time I read or hear that comment from Piers about his brother...I am active duty military and have had extensive training in fire arms...Piers needs to reserve the fact telling for the professionals and guests he has on his show that have experience in these elements...oh wait...Piers like's to hear himself speak and repeatedly and extremely rudely cuts off his guests in mid sentence.

        December 20, 2012 at 1:18 am | Report abuse |
  47. Wow!

    Piers, I was watching your show and am completely blown away at how rude you have been to the people trying to answer the questions that you ask them. You do not let them speak. Everytime they try to talk, you continue to interupt them. I wanted to HEAR the opinions of those people but you are so stuck on the weapons ban side of this that you can not even allow the people to talk. So, what is the purpose of the show if you do not let them speak. I shut your show off becuase I have never been so annoyed by a show in my life. I will never watch you again and I hope other people follow and shut you off!

    You also made very untrue statements about the AR. Please get your facts right before you speak to the people of my country about this very important issue. I would like it very much if you would go back to your country and allow the AMERICAN people to make the right decisions on how to move forward based on true facts and not based on your out of control emotions!

    December 20, 2012 at 1:00 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • keiber

      That is because he is paid by the Rothchild's and the One World Order – Illuminati to make guns look bad at all cost!


      December 20, 2012 at 4:12 am | Report abuse | Reply
  48. Frank (Tampa)

    Mr Morgan, All Guns are made for killing and or Hunting. AR15 is a combat weapon. Heres My reason for owning one, I live in Florida when the hurricanes come through and the power is out law Enforcements top priority is not protecting me and my family, homestead they will be busy protecting the Dignitaries in the area, Keep in mind they usually show up when all the trouble is over with when a horrendous crime is going on. also with the unbearable heat usually during the season of the Hurricanes criminals and people in general become very desperate and I feel more comfortable about doing whatever means neccesary to protect my family.Yes many innocent people are harmed and many people are saved as well. Florida is full of lethal criminals like the Miami zombie that chewed a mans face off. cmon you dont feel funny about saying I shouldn't own a gun. as far as the AR15 that is the gun you want to protect your home in the middle of the night when multiple assailants are going to enter your property and do God knows what. A 9mm glock is just not feasible. in closing I would like to say Im a licensed Security Officer in the state of Florida trained with the AR15 as well as multiple firearm training classes hand to hand combat and knives defense

    December 20, 2012 at 1:01 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Robert

      In fact, some are made just for punching little holes in paper (target shooting). I am thinking of a Contender or a High Standard target pistol, but there are many others that are not made for hunting or defense. Target shooting is a legitimate reason for gun/pistol/rifle ownership.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:15 am | Report abuse | Reply
  49. Paul

    Piers, you need to learn some basic manners and decency towards your guests. Do you think we all tune in to hear you and you have the right to talk over everyone? You clearly don't want to learn anything and don't think you have anything to learn. You are one of the most obviously narcissistic voices on TV today. Your views are not God's gift to humanity and you are not the smartest person in the room. I got your talking points the first 50 times you said them. Please shut up and try listening for a change, and please do it in England because American's have had enough of your pompous lectures.

    December 20, 2012 at 1:01 am | Report abuse | Reply
  50. Shane

    I don't believe I've ever seen a show host as rude as Piers Morgan. I (my opinion) everyone is devastated by all of the shootings in the last decade...but I believe we as a people are doing the exact opposite of what the majority are saying we need to do as far as mental health...Everyone says "we need to be bold and honest about mental health issues; Whether it's our son, daughter, mother or father...we need to be up front about their conditions and get them help." This is being said, but then the conversation immediately turns to "but the problem here isn't mental health, it's these military grade weapons." IMMEDIATELY so many people across the country are jumping on the weapons ban wagon and avoiding the mental health. The same day of the Sandy Hook shooting, a man in China stabbed 22 children in a school!!! Do we ban knives too??? The problem is people. But that's not a good enough answer for the majority. They think banning certain types of weapons will magically remove the millions of them already in circulation and in the population. What will end up happening is home invasions where criminals are still using AR's and a homeowner...a husband...a father is left with a pea shooter or single shot weapon...resulting in his family being slaughtered. Put God back in our schools and back in this country...perhaps then we can turn some of the evil away. But, guns or no guns...there are still sick and crazy, mentally ill and deranged people out there that will continue to kill people.

    December 20, 2012 at 1:04 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Mario

      .......even if he does believe his own BS, all he is accomplishing is sending gun and ammo sales through the roof and motivating us (american) supporters of the 2nd Ammendment to action!

      December 20, 2012 at 1:51 am | Report abuse | Reply
  51. Jeff

    I expected a more professional and neutral anchor from cnn. The interruptions from pierce would be unacceptable in any middle school debate, let alone a national news corporation.He accuses the guy of intentionally lying, then he does not let him respond to the accusation. I believe in some changes to gun laws, but cannot abide pierce's behavior on this show. Pierce Morgan needs to be fired.

    December 20, 2012 at 1:05 am | Report abuse | Reply


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  52. Mario

    If it wasn't for our right to bear arms, we wouldn't have been able to defeat Mr Morgans redcoat ancestors and give birth to this nation. In 1776 his forebearers hung ours whenever they were found with a gun in thier home. He will never understand our second ammendment until he becomes educated on American history.
    The second ammendment was never about "duck hunting" its about making sure tyrants like Pierces' british ancesters are not the only ones with the guns.

    December 20, 2012 at 1:09 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Shane


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    • Amanda

      Surely laws should evolve as a country evolves, this amendment was written in the time of muskets and as you rightly said is history

      December 20, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Paul

        The point of the 2nd amendment was to allow the American people to militarily defeat any oppressive government. At the time that meant muskets, today that means modern rifles.

        December 20, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mario

        Tell that to the Bosnians and Albanians that were slaughtered by the thousands right in your European backyard. Bet they wish they had some AR-15s and 30 round magazines......but they didn't,..... so now they're in mass graves that we are still uncovering. That was 10 years ago, not 200, so tell me again how much you have evolved?

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  54. thebs75

    Piers Morgan-
    Please just stop talking. I know nothing about you, your views, personal life, etc. but I just had the unfortunate experience of having to listen to you completely bully someone on your "show" and use that term very loosely. Just stop talking about this topic and let these families mourn the loss of their loved ones. This is NOT the time to push your own agenda, this is not about you and what your views and opinions may be. Please just stop talking and let these families, this town and this country absorb this tragic event, respectfully mourn the lives lost, and begin the healing process. You should be ashamed of yourself and your careless behavior. I am embarrassed that you represent news and media in the United States.

    December 20, 2012 at 1:14 am | Report abuse | Reply
  55. Kathryn

    Thank you thank you thank you. This is the discussion that needs to keep happening all over our country. This country has made several controversial and difficult cultural shifts in the last several decades, and we are going to do that again now about the issue of guns.

    December 20, 2012 at 1:17 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Brad

      Discussion is good. But Piers proved repeatedly tonight he is not interested in discussion. It is my way or the highway with him.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:20 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ken Kozak

      Kathryn? Really? This is the kind of discussion we need? One party using his bully pit and promoting his leftist views? I really dont care about his particular views per se, but the manner in which he conducted himself is appalling, and if you dont find that to be true, then something is wrong if you thiink those type of actions are going to create a solution. Do not patronize him, and furthermore, I think you should be upset that the media clowns are exploiting this for as much as they can get. The whole shooting tragedy sickened me, physically made me sick. It made many cry, but this type of discourse is NOT going to move anyone, or anything towards a meaningful conversation, and to support such actions is mistake. shame on you.

      December 20, 2012 at 2:38 am | Report abuse | Reply
  56. GThomas

    Any thoughts from anyone on the idea of insurance?

    December 20, 2012 at 1:19 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Gthomas

      I can't find my own comment about insurance, so here it is again.

      It will be a long time before we solve the gun problem in America. In the meantime, we could require gun owners to carry insurance, just like you carry on your home and your automobiles. The more dangerous the car/weapon? The more insurance you pay. A pretty simple idea. With insurance will come responsibility and accountability. Where do you live? What is the primary use? Are there any minors in the home? Do you have a gun safe? Do you have gun locks? Has anyone in your home been treated for mental illness? Do you have a license?

      The only truly unforgivable element of this entire tragedy is a parent and/or parents who were allowed to have dangerous guns in the home of a mentally ill child.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:34 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Shane

        Valid point at the end about parents of mentally ill having guns in their homes...but on the flip side...I would love my child just the same even if one of the 4 of them had a mental illness...I would still want to reserve my right have a firearm to protect my family...even my mentally ill one. This is almost a NO ANSWER situation we are facing. But like I've been posting on here...guns or no guns...people that want to kill people will find a way to do it...regardless of what type of weapon.

        December 20, 2012 at 1:39 am | Report abuse |
      • gthomas

        Thank you, Shane, for your thoughtful remarks. However, nothing is ever a "no answer" situation, only a "hard answer" for many people. Insurance would insure that you DO still have the opportunity to own a gun; however, you would fall into the same "higher risk" category as the parent with a 16-year-old driver. Makes sense.

        December 20, 2012 at 10:40 am | Report abuse |
      • Ken kozak

        Its called home owners insurance. Your desire to "tax", which is what you are basically purposing, is not only illogical, its wrong. Perhaps if an individual were to ever make a public comment, they should first be required to have "insurance", just in case they hurt someone's feelings.

        December 20, 2012 at 2:41 am | Report abuse |
  57. Silvia Garcia-Rosell

    Mr. Morgan,
    I am a Middle School teacher and I congratulate you for your fight against gun control. You are absolutely right,when
    you say that there is no need to have weapons that can kill hundreds in minutes. It is incredible that it had to take a foreign journalist to bring this up for discussion and it is sad that these poor children had to be killed in order for
    our society to talk about it. Keep up the good work and don't give up, continue with the fight and hopefully people
    will come to realize that if we continue with the mentality that everyone should own a gun for protection, all we are
    ever going to end up doing is just killing each other because guns makes all human beings feel that we are more
    Mr Morgan Thank you, Thank You.
    Silvia Garcia-Rosell

    December 20, 2012 at 1:19 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Shane

      People CHOOSE to kill people with guns...or knives...or bombs...or cars...or drugs...or their bare hands!!! Lanza could have just as easily marched into Sandy Hook Elementary with only the two hand guns...or better yet...maybe just a in China on the same day...An individual, male or female, intent on killing...will kill. Lanza could have achieved the same amount of devastation with the two pistols as he did with one long arm. The problem is SICK, EVIL and mentally ill people...not any particular type of weapon.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:28 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • citizens against hammer and baseball bat violence

      gun promote violence?????? THen mine must be DEFECTIVE. Just like the NO guns signs are in the gun free zones.

      December 20, 2012 at 5:15 am | Report abuse | Reply
  58. John

    Mr. Morgan's behavior tonight was beyond rude. I don't know how anyone can take him seriously as a journalist after what we just saw tonight.

    December 20, 2012 at 1:22 am | Report abuse | Reply
  59. Brad

    Ok off to bed. I have vented enough. Good luck with the show Piers. I think you just went into the dumpster tonight. You deserve to.

    December 20, 2012 at 1:26 am | Report abuse | Reply
  60. Eric

    Pier, I really love your show, your passion for this topic, but at some point we have to admit that FEAR is a big part of the motivation to have more guns, fear mainly of Black people. Think about it....

    December 20, 2012 at 1:27 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Shane

      How inappropriate! I think you've topped Piers Morgan...Aside from being racist, you are almost as heartless to promote something like that in the midst of all those children being killed. I hope I don't have the misfortune of seeing any more of your posts.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:32 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Curt

      Eric, that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. You're an idiot or just trying to be an idiot think about it...

      December 20, 2012 at 2:40 am | Report abuse | Reply
  61. dave from canada

    We have very few guns crimes in Canada there is a connection between the number of guns and gun deaths no doubt

    Pairs says let's have a dialogue and cuts off Cain fellow CNN host unfortunately Morgan is incorrect
    Guns will always find there way into the wrong hands it's no guns at all or the status quo the legit gun owner will not give up there guns. I do not own a gun and won't. Nor will i take others rights to own a gun away. But it is clear you will never stop a psycho with gun control laws. See ecole poly technique canada

    December 20, 2012 at 1:31 am | Report abuse | Reply
  62. Bob

    Mister Morgan,

    You need to let people speak and stop acting like a bully by interrupting and yelling at everyone who doesn't agree with your view. Show some respect and professionalism. Further, you are free to leave the country if it's so bad in the US. Gun violence is certainly a problem as is reality television, violence in prime time tv programming, media like you accepting our lawless celebrities, the ever growing trend of single parent families, and ultimately the lack of social responsibility. Everyone is so worried about hurting someone's feelings that we avoid developing the skills to deal with failure and holding bad actors accountable. As an avid sportsman, I absolutely agree that there is zero need for these high capacity clips, but please keep in mind that 99% of us don't live in gated communities and many more live in downright dangerous communities. Why? Because we have yet to figure out how to control the illegal drugs driving much of the gun violence. You have my support to outlaw the extra capacity clips, the AR15's, the videos games, talk shows, and let's make drugs illegal one more time while we're at it.

    December 20, 2012 at 1:33 am | Report abuse | Reply
  63. Richrd Olson

    "Guns don't kill people, people kill people." "Guns save people, especially assault rifles!" These contradictory statements typify the flawed logic of many gun rights advocates. So does the tautology of preventing gun violence through owning more guns. I can't read minds, obviously, but I am left to conclude that people who think along such lines are ingenuine when they claim to care about protecting their fellow citizens from a government (made of citizens, by the way) that is hell bent on eliminating personal liberty. Fearmongering, bullying, and actively seeking confirmation bias are hallmarks of this mentality. I would argue that these qualities are fundamentally unamerican.

    December 20, 2012 at 1:36 am | Report abuse | Reply
  64. Steve

    A) Owning a gun does not instantly make you violent (people who write that instantly lose credibility in this discussion).
    B) Banning guns is not going to magically make all of the people who wish to kill someone say "Oh, never mind."
    C)I assume that different States have different definitions, but really assault weapons are fully automatic.
    D)You can only fire a semi-automatic as fast as you pull the trigger (I do not know why that guy on the show could not just say that tonight).
    E) Firing 4-6 bullets a second actually equals about 240-360 bullets a minute, not 100, and I'd be hard pressed to find someone with that quick of a trigger pull. So Piers, are you sure you were not talking about an automatic weapon? Which brings me to my next point.
    F) People who know little about guns should have a minor voice in the discussion, let alone a whole show.
    G) Can we have a discussions with facts instead of emotions?
    H) Let. People. Speak.
    I) I'm sure I could get through the Alphabet, but it is late.

    December 20, 2012 at 1:37 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Shane

      That guy could say that tonight because Piers Morgan would shut up long enough for his guests to speak...that is unless they were saying exactly what he wanted them to say and supporting his own beliefs...he would let them speak...but anyone who veered from his way of thinking he cut off and wouldn't let them finish.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:43 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Shane

        ...COULDN'T say that...

        December 20, 2012 at 1:45 am | Report abuse |
  65. Rick

    If it were true that putting more guns in the hands of more people was the safer alternative, surely this would play out in private enterprise. Take the example of concerts and sporting events. Going to a Springsteen show earlier in the month I found myself waiting 30 minutes to get into the event as we were screened for weapons. The amount of people screening and equipment was astounding. Surely every single concert promoter and venue must have missed the facts set forth by the gun lobby. Think of the millions of dollars they could save every year by not hiring screeners and metal detectors at their events. According to the gun lobby we are missing the point! Millions of dollars are being wasted. According to the gun lobby people should be encouraged to bring their guns to concerts and sporting events. The more the merrier and the safer we will be according to them. So why doesn't this happen? Simple, like much the gun lobby sets forth, it's not true. It's not safer and AEG and all the others know this. The insurance companies know this. If you don't believe this is true, please look at this as a missed opportunity. You can step up and insure these events. These events and venues are insured based on the underlying premise that people are not allowed to carry guns into the venue. Please open the eyes of these multi-billion dollar companies that don't believe what the gun lobby says. However, if you believe you are wiser and you believe the gun lobby, please step up and insure these venues and events. AEG and the others would love to save millions of dollars each and every year by not hiring screeners and metal detectors for their events. Personally, I would love to get inside these venues without such long lines. If I am wrong and you are able to convince these venues and promoters, think of this missed opportunity and the money you can make. Just step up or shut up!

    December 20, 2012 at 1:40 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Steve

      I bet the Forefathers were swayed by the Gun Lobbies. Also, I would love to have security and police details around me 24-7, kinda like at that concert. I'd feel safe.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:45 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Shane

        I think you "missed the opportunity" buddy. Those 'screeners and metal detectors' are there because people like Lanza choose to illegally take weapons where they're not supposed to go. Your law abiding citizens and gun owners don't carry their weapons where they're not allowed. You probably won't ever get rid of the screeners and metal detectors at events unless you can prevent crazy, looney, mentally ill and insane people from illegally using guns...guess what...that probably won't happen either. I agree with you Steve...I would feel more safe with the extra security, metal detectors and police...

        December 20, 2012 at 1:50 am | Report abuse |
  66. Richard Olson

    We need to sit down, as reasonable, respectful citizens, and end gun violence in America. Our discussion must be guided by facts, our work must acknowlege that there are multiple facets of the problem to be addressed, and our tone must be guided by reason, rather than the outrage and fear that we are currently feeling. While I tend to agree with your opinions, Mr. Morgan, we need to make sure that we give them voice without acrimony. The work before us is too important to let our raw emotions disrupt it.

    December 20, 2012 at 1:48 am | Report abuse | Reply
  67. kevin

    Piers i think instead of banning guns CNN should ban you from promoting your one sided agenda,,, please let your guest speak,,,, beides how many school children did Timothy NcVeigh kill ??? yet we didn't ban fertilizer, gasoline, and rental trucks,,,, you can't regulate or legislate against crazy people

    December 20, 2012 at 1:50 am | Report abuse | Reply
  68. David Fowler

    Mr. Morgan,
    Your perspective on many issues is one that I appreciate and I have had very positive experiences watching your broadcasts in the past, but on gun violence you have clearly lost your ability to look at the issue objectively and consider the available data which supports the multiple points of view on this issue. Your broadcast on December 19th was the most indicative example of this fact.
    America needs to have a serious discussion about gun violence to determine what actions will be most effective in curbing it, while preserving the freedoms and values of its people. The key word is "serious", and because of that I am asking you to step away from this issue. Your clear bias and inability to restrain your emotional impulses, have compromised your ability to make a valuable contribution to the discussion.

    December 20, 2012 at 1:53 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Shane

      I wonder if we all keep saying that about Piers we will get lucky enough to not have to hear from him anymore...I've only watched his shows since the Sandy Hook massacre...and I'm disgusted at how he actually brings family and friends of the victims on the air to pretend like he gives a crap...lets them have a few emotional seconds on tv...then spends the rest of his 'show' promoting his views and beliefs and being completely RUDE and DISRESPECTFUL to his guests to make his views and beliefs heard. These families, friends and this country needs time to grieve over the loss of so many children...but I honestly believe that we have lost sight of the fact here...LANZA killed those 26 people...not an AR. It's hard to say...but if Lanza had walked into that school with a bat and struck those poor kids and teachers in the head...would we as a people blame that horrible crime on the bat? The problem is sick and evil people...that will never get fixed.

      December 20, 2012 at 2:02 am | Report abuse | Reply
  69. Mario

    Mr Morgan doesn't need a gun, he leaves that to his armed bodyguards.

    December 20, 2012 at 1:57 am | Report abuse | Reply
  70. justamom

    Once again, I was disgusted to see how poorly Piers Morgan behaved. When he didn't like what Mr. Dulan had to say, he cut him off. When he didn't like the FACTS that Mr. Lott was trying to share, he started to shout at him, spit, and call him a liar. Even the woman police officer he had on (her name eludes me at the moment) who killed the repeat gunman in the church and saved countless lives was cut off by him as soon as he sensed she wasn't going to absolutely agree with him.

    Please, do not make me out to be a 'crazy person' because I choose to exercise my 2nd Amendment right. Our guns (mine and my husbands) were obtained and are owned and carried legally. We obey the law. Just today I went to the DMV to get my driver's license renewed. He was with me, armed with his legally concealed pistol, and we joked about the sign on the door that showed no cell phones and no forks and knives allowed inside. As I sat waiting for my turn, he was walking around looking at different pamphlets and such on display, then suddenly turned and told me he would be waiting in the car. I didn't know why but went to where he had been looking and saw, FLAT on the counter so it wasn't exactly displayed and easily seen, a sign with a gun and a slash through it. So my husband, a law abiding citizen, saw that and walked out. No one knew he had a gun on him, it was concealed, but he knew and left because we FOLLOW THE RULES. Do you think if someone had come in there to shoot the place up that they would have seen that sign and left?

    I would also like to say that I if you go through the proper channels to get a concealed carry permit, you should be able to take it wherever you go. A gun-free zone only lets the criminals know where they can go without resistance. Would you put a sign on your front yard saying "Gun Free Home"?

    I do believe the gun show loop hole should be closed. I do believe that background checks should be done for all purchases and a required safety course would not hurt either, also a class in how to actually use the gun you purchase.

    Piers, you like to borrow OUR 1st Amendment right to try to abolish OUR 2nd Amendment right. I am just a mom in America but I, and many like me, are growing tired of your childish rants and your bully pulpit. CNN should be ashamed of themselves as should you.

    December 20, 2012 at 2:00 am | Report abuse | Reply
  71. Sunetha

    Dear Mr Morgan,
    I salute you for speaking on behalf of the millions of parents who are unable to voice their feelings for the world to hear.
    While positive action needs to be taken firstly to enforce gun control it must also be done simultaneously with strengthening the role of the Civil Police force who are lawfully empowered to protect civil society. If the Police Force has the adequate resources of manpower, equipment and strategic plans of action, and are able to protect the people then the civilian society would not feel so vulnerable and insecure and the need for personal protection (to own a gun) would not arise.
    The responsibility of any Nation's armed force/s is primarily to protect the people of your own country.

    December 20, 2012 at 2:00 am | Report abuse | Reply
  72. Curt

    Piers should be fired. These people are guests of the show and to not let them answer a question by talking over them is ridiculous. Piers talks louder and louder over people that have a good point because he doesn't want to lose. He ends up looking like a twit. The UK has a fraction of our population so his stats without a percentage is meaningless. He should be sent back to the UK and continue fighting Amorosa. The ban will never happen so let's start looking at different ways to prevent murders. Most deaths are done with illegal weapons by criminals. He's barking up the wrong tree. A .45 caliber handgun does a lot more damage than an AR15. Maybe get to know the facts before you start grand standing. A brother in the military does not make you an expert. Please move back to the UK and take your socialist ideas with you.

    December 20, 2012 at 2:19 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Peace

      You gun loving paranoid xenophobes clearly demonstrate no concept of Critical Thinking. What are you really afraid of? Be honest! What are you compensating for?! Get an alarm system if you’re so worried about someone breaking into your home. Innocent children and getting slaughtered. Man Up!
      We’re talking about too many guns falling into the wrong hands. This is a simple exercise in probability and common sense.
      I cannot wait for M. Bloomberg and others to take on this issue with their vast resources. Going forward, I hope certain class of guns are restricted with some kind of RFID or GPS technology that disables them in certain public places like SCHOOLS, malls, theaters, parks, restaurants, airports, etc.

      December 20, 2012 at 9:55 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • citizens against hammer and baseball bat violence

        Amazing. LOL.. how everyone becomes a informed gun expert from watching tv the very second someone breaks the law with them. That would be like you knowing how to rebuild a car motor the second a news story comes out about a death from a drunk driver. You cant think because your emotions WON"T let you.

        December 20, 2012 at 3:10 pm | Report abuse |
  73. Ellliot

    Go to you tube and search for Dr Susan Gratia and come back and comment Priers.

    December 20, 2012 at 2:33 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Shane

      Thank you so much Elliot...I think this video should be played on CNN now!!!

      December 20, 2012 at 2:49 am | Report abuse | Reply
  74. ssb81

    Although the United Kingdom is 1/5 the size of the United States it still has more violent crimes. The UK has approx. 1,158,957 violent crimes a year with a population of 62,641,000 people. The United States has a violent crime rate of 1,203,564 violent crimes a year with a population of 311,591,917 people. In the last five years the crime rate in the United States has been dropping even though the anit-gun nuts would have you believe otherwise!

    December 20, 2012 at 2:54 am | Report abuse | Reply
  75. Elliot

    Your welcome
    Thanks for posting the link. I tried but my post are being censored

    December 20, 2012 at 2:55 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Shane

      Mine too...but the link is there never the less for people to copy and paste if they want. I wish there were a way to really get that video viral again.

      December 20, 2012 at 3:13 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Elliot

        Yes everybody that weighs in on this debate should watch it. I completely agree with her feelings and I'm sure when the healing starts about this tragedy many of the parents will agree with Susan regardless of Peirs propaganda.

        December 20, 2012 at 3:35 am | Report abuse |
    • Shane

      Great! You got it to work. I hope everyone sees it.

      December 20, 2012 at 3:38 am | Report abuse | Reply
  76. Cris


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  77. Cris

    How do you post stuff on here? Every time I try it never shows up.

    December 20, 2012 at 3:22 am | Report abuse | Reply
  78. Cris

    Well my original post was longer and with substance but every time i try to post it says i have already posted it or nothing happens at all... any suggestions?

    December 20, 2012 at 3:35 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Shane

      No...not really sorry...I would just try to retype and submit the comment.

      December 20, 2012 at 3:39 am | Report abuse | Reply
  79. Glodef

    Sorry, but I've seen no reason to take this Morgan guy seriously. He is unqualified, closed-minded, and stuck on pursuing his small minded opinions. I might wonder if he's found the latest topic to drive ratings, or driven by his beliefs, but I really don't think he is worth the time. Yes, so much so that i took the time to type this.

    December 20, 2012 at 3:38 am | Report abuse | Reply
  80. Cris

    I'll try to post in segments...

    December 20, 2012 at 3:40 am | Report abuse | Reply
  81. Tim

    Normally... I like Piers.... I really do. But he should really move to Fox News after the past few nights. Those guys embrace loud mouth idiots.

    December 20, 2012 at 3:44 am | Report abuse | Reply
  82. John Gray

    peirs you need to let other people finish speaking and stop cutting them off. It's so annoying when you do that. It's terrible manners. We need to listen both side not only yours.

    If you can do that then get off the air. You are already very annoying on your own. It's even worst when you do annoying stuff.

    December 20, 2012 at 3:49 am | Report abuse | Reply
  83. Everett Mack

    What a piece of work Piers Morgan is. A town hall meeting with one person for guns and 100 against. Yes, lets have an honest talk about guns as long as my voice is heard and anyone against me has no say. What a commie pig. Welcome to the Communist News Network.

    December 20, 2012 at 3:55 am | Report abuse | Reply
  84. Matthew Johnson

    Mr. Morgan,

    One question that you and many others seem to love to ask is, "Why does anyone NEED an assault rifle?"

    That's an interesting use of the word, "need". Why do you NEED to be paid $2,000,000 annually to do your show? The truth is that no one NEEDS anything beyond the bare necessities required in order to survive.

    It has already been said enough on the CNN blog comments that you use bullying tactics in your discussions. Almost every time you asked John Lott a question, you chose not to listen to his answer, and instead talk over him as you call the argument he is not even able to make "a complete lie." Because of that, you obviously didn't hear the part where he said the murder rate. Not the firearm murder rate...just the murder rate. Your repeated interruptions and quoting of only the firearm murder rate statistics was not the point. Firearm use to prevent crime is not only used to prevent crimes involving firearms. However, that is beside the point.

    The following is taken from, "Homicides, Firearm Offences and Intimate Violence 2010/11: Supplementary Volume 2 to Crime in England and Wales 2010/11"

    "In 2010/11, 648 deaths were initially recorded as homicide, an increase from the 626 initially recorded in the previous year (an increase of 22 offences, or 4%; Table 1.01). Where the police initially record an offence as homicide it remains classified as such unless the police or courts decide that a lesser offence, or no offence, took place.
    Of the 648 offences first recorded in 2010/11, 12were no longer recorded as homicide by 18 October 2011, giving a total of 636 offences currently recorded as homicide when the database was „frozen‟ for analysis. This represents an increase of 28 offences (5%) from the 608 currently recorded for 2009/10.

    The latter was the lowest number since 1997/98, when 604 were recorded. The number recorded for 2010/11 is similar to that for 2008/09 (640).

    And since you seem to like statistics so much:

    As you stated (understated, actually)
    Number of legal firearms in the US – 310,000,000
    Number of firearm-related murders – 10,000

    That means that, even with the assumption that each death was caused by a single firearm, that 0.0031% of the firearms in this country killed anyone. I'll write it out so it sinks in. ZERO POINT ZERO ZERO THREE ONE PERCENT.

    Let's bring in assault-style weapons. By the way, regardless of how a gun looks, the rate of fire of a semi-automatic gun is entirely dependent on how fast one is capable of pulling the trigger, so these so-called experts that you are using are feeding you misleading information on the guns that look scary, either that or you are taking the information that they are giving you and twisting and manipulating it in order to attempt to make your point. Regardless, Let's just take the firearm-related murder figures. Assault-style weapons (I make that distinction because an assault weapon is capable of firing in multi-round burst or full-auto with a single depression of the trigger) are used, on average, in 2-8% of all gun related crime every year. If we were to say that every time they were used, they killed someone, you would come out with this statistic:

    Number of assault-style weapons currently legally owned in the US – 4,000,000
    Number of assault-style guns used in gun crime (murder for the sake of the argument) – 200-800.
    Doing the math, that still comes out to 0.005% – 0.02% of the assault-style guns being used to kill anyone.
    If you go from the entire gun ownership number, it means that 0.00006% of the guns owned in this country were assault-style guns used to kill anyone.

    And as far as the all to often used comparison between the US and the UK, the UK has a population 1/5th the size of the US and they are all contained within a landmass that is slightly smaller than the US state of Oregon. It is far easier to prevent bad activity at a gathering when you are dealing with 100 people in your house than it is to prevent bad activity when you are dealing with 500 people on your entire block.

    You also fail to mention that since the UK firearm bans, the weapon of choice is now the knife. Given the statistics listed earlier, that would mean that out of the 648 murders from 2010/2011, 613 of them were killed by weapons other than guns. Knives or other sharp objects were used in 232 murders....up from 210 in 2009/2010....and continuing to climb.

    Some other things to consider:
    Sikh temple shooting – no assault weapons used
    Seattle coffee house shooting – no assault weapons used
    Columbine (occurred half-way through the assault weapons ban) – no assault weapons used
    Virginia Tech – no assault weapons used

    Also, in Columbine, the following things beyond firearms were used:
    A variety of knives
    48 - Carbon Dioxide bombs
    27 - Pipe bombs
    11 - 1.5 gallon propane bombs
    7 - gas or napalm bombs
    2 - 20 pound propane bombs

    So, honestly, do you really think that a cry for getting rid of evil-looking rifles is anything more than a knee-jerk search for the quick fix on a problem to which, in the harsh reality of things, there is no concrete solution?

    Doing something just for the sake of being able to say, "Well, at least we are trying to do something." is nothing more than mental masturbation. It is something that some people think that they have to do in order to make themselves feel better. It is something done by people who are too afraid to admit that you can't always stop bad things from happening, so making a token gesture is all they can do, and in doing so, it gives them a chance to feel morally superior to those who acknowledge that short of isolating everyone from everyone else (or eliminating the human race as a whole), there is no way to stop things like this from happening. You are 60 times more likely to be struck by lightning than to be involved in a mass shooting. Are they tragic? Yes. Can you stop them from happening? No. There are simply too many known and unknown variables that even determine if someone is ever going to attempt something like this. Focusing on the tool that is sometimes used is only addressing one tiny variable, and focusing on a single variable in a problem with hundreds or thousands of variables does nothing but create all new variables to add to the pile.

    I don't know if you are even going to read this. I hope you do. I hope it at least sparks some thought beyond the obvious bias you appear to have formed.

    December 20, 2012 at 3:57 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • justamom

      If this was on Facebook, I would 'like' this post. Well said.

      December 20, 2012 at 4:03 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • mustangvoodoo1

        Just like it, I loved it!!

        December 20, 2012 at 4:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Ellliot

      Very well said Matthew.
      Funny all these anti gun folks can not dispute your well written post that is completely based on facts.
      Watch out their only comeback is name calling and censorship.

      December 20, 2012 at 4:12 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • keiber

      WELL SAID!


      December 20, 2012 at 4:24 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • John gray web

      Well written.

      December 20, 2012 at 4:29 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Dougie

      USA total murder rate in 2011 was 4.2 per hundred thousand, UK total murder rate in 2011 was 1.2 per hundred thousand.

      December 22, 2012 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  85. Glodef

    Matthew Johnson, thank you for focusing on facts and data. Too bad the shmuck hosting this show didn't have the skill or courage to do the same.

    December 20, 2012 at 4:04 am | Report abuse | Reply
  86. mustangvoodoo1

    Piers, a few brief comments and then a brazen challenge to which I am POSITIVE you will most certainly pretend you didn't see
    If you want to have a meaningful conversation about American citizen's rights to own a firearm or an Assault Weapon(whatever that means) I implore YOU to have a clue as to what you are talking about.

    You made numerous ridiculous statements earlier this evening. 1) about renaming AR-15's for what they really are: Military Machine Guns. Wrong ! They are NOT machine guns, they are semi-automaticweapons

    2)You want a ban on AR-15's, OK which ones? What? Oh yes Mr. Morgan, an AR-15 is NOT a specific weapon good sir, it is a platform. Numerous manufacturers make these platforms. Which caliber would you suggest being banned?
    .22LR / .223 / 5.56 . The typical bolt action and Semi-auto hunting rifles such as the 30.06 and 30.30 are FAR more powerful that even the AR-15 platform chambered in 5.56

    3)You asked an irrelevant question that has no correct answer. You asked how many rounds can an AR-15 fire per second. OK first what kind of AR-15 chambered in what caliber? There is NO answer Piers. Semi-Automatic weapon means one round is fired and ejected per trigger pull. You further go on to state an AR-15 can fire up to 100 rounds per minute. OK you really need to be educated on this subject. Are you sitting down Piers? Good! Now, the M4A1 fully automatic carbine has a cyclic rate of 850 rounds per minute. Even these fully automatic versions are usually utilized by military special forces. Even the US Army and Marine Corps realize that a fully automatic carbine is not superior to control aimed fire. Current M4's are no longer fully automatic, they are semi-automatic select fire which is one trigger pull per spent round and a three round burst per trigger pull.
    You lament that an AR-15 (again you do NOT specify which caliber the weapon is chambered in) can fire 4 to 6 rounds a second and up to 100 rounds per minute. That math does NOT add up Mr. Morgan. By your own calculations, an AR-15 can fire up to 360 rounds a minute.
    Piers, I agree that a dialogue MUST be established to address many issues related towards firearms. I agree that all sales of all firearms in the INITIAL purchase should be subject to 100% background checks

    In regard to dealing with straw purchases, I believe that if the individual who is attempting to purchase a firearm has a spouse who is disqualified from firearm ownership, then said individual should NOT be allowed to purchase a firearm.

    I disagree with your desire to see a national database that contains the names of all citizens with firearms. I see that as a precurser to law enforcement visiting each and every citizen to confiscate these weapons at some point in the future

    In closing, How about you debate a layman, me? I am a disabled veteran medically retired from the US Army. I am an AR-15 platform owner. All I ask is that you allow questions to be answered. I will answer every question you throw out head on. Of course you or your staff will ignore this challenge or pretend NOT to see it. Well then how about a debate with someone, ANYONE? Bring in a member of the NRA, all we as citizens ask is that YOU just let them answer your questions fully without cutting them off and you answer any questions they may have for you.

    Well what do you think?

    December 20, 2012 at 4:11 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • JW

      You raised many great points about the fact that his answers to his own questions make little sense; it is like Deepak Chopra lying about a musket only being able to fire one round in twenty minutes, if that where anywhere close to correct it would mean that everyone during the Civil War and before must have asked their target to stand still like they were going to take their picture or something. I own several guns and am a concealed licensee and it is infuriating to see these ignorant people tell lie after lie, and though they say they support people's right to defend themselves and hunt, they fail to understand that people do that all year with various AR platformed rifles.

      December 20, 2012 at 4:22 am | Report abuse | Reply
  87. JW

    I agree with you all about Piers and his blatant refusal to hear an opposing opinion. It seems that Morgan is incapable of being a fair reporter, if someone doesn't agree with his opinion then they are idiotic, and anyone who even tries to explain how guns have saved lives is never allowed to finish a thought and treated like Robert Blake when he was abused as a guest. These reports seem to allows brag of how we should deregulate drugs and make their possession less punishable and yet they assume that we gun owners are all raving lunatics that stick a gun down our pants and parade around threatening people, and when they preach the great achievements of groups like MADD, all I can do is laugh, because everyday drunks are out on the roads and kill more people than any gun crime. He needs to get off his high horse and quite bragging about his expertise on guns because his limey brother servers in a queens army, he should show a damn site more respect to Americans and our guns considering that the British ask for so many of them when they were getting their behinds handed to them. I will never trust what he has to say, and just because he is in our country doesn't mean he deserves to be, what ever happened to all those people you Brits spied on in the phone hacking cases, I am sure that's were you learned your journalistic integrity from. People in America own guns because we can, and we also remember the massacres like those in West Virginia, when heavily armed private company guards with machine guns murdered coal miners for trying to form a union. Brag about foreign countries and their lack of guns, but remember that our country is full of people who escaped those countries and their oppressive ways. Communist China's strict gun laws; well I am sure that's for the peoples protection, and not so they don't rebel against their dictators or something.

    December 20, 2012 at 4:12 am | Report abuse | Reply
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  89. Oana Cioaca Taylor

    Thank you for an excellent show tonight, Piers. You have the courage to confront the gun enthusiasts that are absolutely insane in their love for their guns. I understand where you are coming from because gun culture does not exist in Europe ( where I am coming from too). It is horrific what is currently going on in he US and I appreciate your passion in this national debate about gun control. Hopefully, the public opinion will change in our favor.

    December 20, 2012 at 4:32 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • mustangvoodoo1

      Aha, this STATEMENT is the absolute pinnacle of hypocrisy:

      A European countrymen talking about Europe not having a gun culture and blasting the US for their GUN culture. With all due respect, uhm exactly how many times has the United States and it's GUNS bailed Europe out of a big mess, can anyone say WW1 and what was that other one, oh yes... WW2 ??


      December 21, 2012 at 8:49 am | Report abuse | Reply
  90. Paul

    Piers Morgan is not a commentator. He is rude and overbearing. He will not allow anyone to express their beliefs or ideas. The only thing that matters is he opinion. He just keeps yelling his own opinions on the subject at hand and then insults anyone who disagrees. CNN NEEDS TO GET RID OF THIS IDIOT! I am a gun owner, and to the person above (Chase) i do not live in a trailer park. And your comment only shows your stupidity. I do agree there is very little use for the AR15 or any assault style weapon to go hunting. I very seldom need to take more than one shot at any game animal. As for my own home security, an assault weapon would be overkill. The problem with banning the AR is where does it stop? Next time when some nut goes out and does a mass killing using a shot gun then Morgan will be screaming we need to ban shotguns?!?! No, we need to put more effort into indentifying these people before they go nuts. And make sure we prosecute anyone who is aware of there intended actions and does not report it. Again CNN needs to get rid of Morgan. Whenever I see this Morgan on CNN I will change the channel.

    December 20, 2012 at 4:34 am | Report abuse | Reply
  91. Michael

    I am a gun-owner, and so is my father. We also are former owners of AR-15's. When we heard the tragic news from Sandy Hook, we decided to get rid of our AR-15's. These weapons ARE NOT self-defense weapons, for anyone to argue that they are is ridiculous. We kept our AR-15's hidden away until we could bring them to the gun-range or out in the woods. I don't know a single gun-owner who would consider their AR-15 a self-defense weapon. They are used for entertainment and hunting purposes only. We got rid of our AR-15's because the fun we had with them didn't justify them being in our possession. We have no real reason to have them.

    It's an odd thing to say, but the AR-15 is the weapon of choice to commit a massacre. It's been seen over and over again. I've seen what these guns do to think plates of metal, I dare not think of what they do to innocent people. With that in mind, what would I want with a gun like that? The only justification for such a gun I can think of would be to hunt varmints (a farmer's task).

    I've always had an issue with "we need more guns to be safer," argument. The idea is old-school, cold-war deterrence: make the risk of attacking so threatening that it will deter anyone from attacking. What are we saying about how we want to live life? The way to be at peace with one another is to have a mutual lethal threat on each others life? That is grim. It also doesn't work. I've gone on too long already... so I won't expand any further.

    Keep going Piers, get the message out as much as you can. The loudest voices coming against you will often be the most unreasonable. However, a larger, more silent, majority will consider the argument reasonably and change their minds.

    December 20, 2012 at 4:39 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Elliot

      Come on Michael come clean. Your wife made you sell the guns, Right?
      I hope you did a background check and a three day waiting period when selling them. You did sell them ?
      Not sure you said "got rid of"

      December 20, 2012 at 4:49 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Matt Smith

      Riiiiight..... seems legit.

      December 20, 2012 at 4:55 am | Report abuse | Reply
  92. jarrett

    Piers morgan is an idiot. If your going to do a story about guns at least know what the hell your talking about and the idiot who would not answer the question. Fact is semi auto handguns and rifles are not like automatic weapons. You want to know the rate per second or how many rounds can be fired in one second from a semi auto weapon???? as fast as you can pull the trigger. He doesn't the difference between the two. Now a semi auto can be made to go full auto but you have to alter the gun and nothing has been said about this. Fact is this whole thing is tragic and sad. But remember guns don't kill people, people kill people. You stick a load gun on a table and never touch it, it will not do a thing to you. In the wrong hands of some wacko idiot hell bend on doing something then it will. May God help all these families during this time.

    December 20, 2012 at 5:16 am | Report abuse | Reply
  93. citizens against hammer and baseball bat violence

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  95. Joe

    Morgan needs to do some more research. How fast can a semi-automatic rifle fire? As fast as you can pull the trigger. Just like every other semi-automatic out there. How many saves are there done every day with guns? Compare the numbers of deaths by guns to car accidents and other ways people die. I am not saying what happened can be justified by any means. But the addition to gun laws in the US have had no effect to rising crime. It is not the weapon that does the killing, it is the person. Dec. 1st, a kid killing his dad with a bow and arrow and stabbed his dads girlfriend and himself with a knife. No gun used there. What percentage of people do bad things when compared to how many responsible gun owners? We need to focus on people who do horrible crimes rather on limiting those who are responsible. If the president can be protected by armed persons, why can't we defend our most valuable possessions which is our family?

    December 20, 2012 at 6:49 am | Report abuse | Reply
  96. Patti
    Piers read what you sound like. If you don't like our laws no one is stopping you from going back to England. I find your show a disgrace using a tragedy to try to improve your LOW ratings.

    December 20, 2012 at 6:57 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • David

      Hi Patti,
      If Piers and the rest of us high paid and educated people from around the world that live in America are asked to leave because we do not agree with certain aspects of your thinking, then who will pay for your debt? We pay a lot of taxes, more than 99% of the people in America and have a right to our opinions, especially when the world is on our side. America is great for many reasons, gun violence is not one of those reasons.

      December 20, 2012 at 8:23 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Kathy

        Hi David.. I ditto your comments. It seems some Americans have a problem that he is British. We need to look outside our boarders sometimes and try to learn. We are too ethnocentric and think we know it all at times.. I hope this time around we will see very real change and that common sense prevails. Thanks for your input. I appreciate your commentary.

        December 20, 2012 at 9:36 am | Report abuse |
  97. Faye

    This is the question I have for Piers Morgan and Nancy Grace: Why have guests on your show with viewpoints opposite yours? Tonight's so-called town hall Piers Morgan show was a second round of a bully host that invites guests on with opposing views and then shouts them down when they express them. Nancy Grace is more times than not so rude to her invited defense attorney guests when she asks them for their opinion and then bullies them when they give it. I often wonder why CNN permits this type of behavior. I really felt sorry for the all the Piers Morgan guests last night and thought his behavior was uncalled for and unprofessional. IMO, I wouldn't be a guest on either the Piers Morgan or Nancy Grace show and I gave up on the Nancy Grace show long ago and have added the Piers Morgan show to my Don't Waste My Time list. And then, CNN scratches their head as to why their ratings are dropping and dropping. No matter how bright, experienced, how much good you Piers Morgan and Nancy Grace are not above being respectful and professional with invited guests on your show that express opinions or facts contrary to yours.

    December 20, 2012 at 7:35 am | Report abuse | Reply
  98. Cao

    I always think that Americans are lack of sense of security. why do so many people have guns? Why do they need it if they believe that they are living in a safe society? What makes them so violent or what makes their society so unstable?

    December 20, 2012 at 7:43 am | Report abuse | Reply
  99. Sheldon

    In general Mr Morgan seems decent however when it suites him he loose his temper and respect for fellow humans. The fact is he is a professional. He should act that way and give his "guests" a chance to speak when he asks them a question. Typical superiority complex with a big ego! Get rid of unlawful weapons, put better control in place for legal weapons which includes competency assessment and residential / environmental inspections. Get rid of any semi automat rifles!! Self protection should be kept to pepper spray and hand guns. Rifles only for hunting or sport shooting.

    December 20, 2012 at 8:05 am | Report abuse | Reply
  100. Teymara

    We all thank God over here in Australia for John Howard (ex Prime Minister) who banned the use of fire arms after we experienced the horrific deaths of so many innocent people at The Port Arthur massacre. He wore special protective clothing when he made the announcement, however, he stood his ground and it was passed through government. The only people licensed to have a fire arm were those on the land (they had to be stored in a particular way) plus the police. I beg the people of America to back your President to do something about your gun control. God didn't put little children on the planet to have them killed in such a way. May the lives of those poor little innocent beings not be in vain. Thank God for John Howard and may God or whomever give Obama the courage to take the same stand in America. Enough is enough. Thank you Piers Morgan and CNN for one powerful program. My heart goes out to each and every family as their little ones are laid to rest.

    December 20, 2012 at 8:10 am | Report abuse | Reply
  101. Kathy

    To all you NAR enthusiast out there who seem to be flooding this page now... GUNS ARE THE PROBLEM. Nothing you can say or do this time around will sway the connversation. It is not the only problem.. but it is a huge part. And just because there are sooooo many guns out there.. and you think it really won't make a difference. It would have made a difference for 20 children and 6 of their teacher. I am appauled at some trying to create even more fear, for trying to make it seem that this tragedy is being used as a platform to push an agenda.. it is so thouroghly DISGUSTING. As for Piers.. he is my HERO. Thank god there is someone with decency and sense that sees the insanity of the gun culture in this country. THANK YOU PIERS.

    December 20, 2012 at 8:17 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • sunnie

      The problem this country is dealing with is guns and Neanderthals Run Amok. (NAR.)
      Thank you Mr. Morgan.

      December 20, 2012 at 10:35 am | Report abuse | Reply
  102. ego flos

    You are absolutely right in wanting to change gun possession in the US.
    Assult weapons are not needed.

    December 20, 2012 at 8:18 am | Report abuse | Reply
  103. Coach Larry Stump


    I'm the father of two grown boys and a football coach. I have coached many kids in my life and have considered them all my kids. It also feels like the kids of Sandy Hook are my kids. We as a country must begin to look at the bigger picture and stop being narrow minded. This issues is much bigger than guns. Guns, violence, mental health care. All part of the puzzle. But, violence should never be the answer. Do violent video games make us a better society? Does violent music make us better? Does violence on TV make us a better society? I don't believe so. When I was younger I played these games, watched these shows and movies, and listened to the music. Looking back now I can't help but wonder why I thought it was ok at the time. We let other people raise our kids as we send both parents to jobs to make those fancy car payments instead of living within our means and keeping someone home to raise them. I am part of the problem. But as a parent I emplore other parents to learn from my mistakes. We must address these issues in this country. Forget being politcaly correct. Say what needs to be said. That's why I just want to say to you, Thank you! Ignore the haters and keep fighting the fight. There are others that are encouraged to join the fight because of your bravery.

    December 20, 2012 at 8:22 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Martin

      Do you actually think lack of class, lack of leadership skills and lack of good manners is bravery.
      Nobody is saying that Piers's intentions are thewrong ones, all we are saying he should change the way he talks to his guests. He was one of my favorite CNN journalists but he is wrong abut the way he is doing things, that's all, it's not about being a hater, two fools will argue for ever, Two wise man will shake each other's hands even when their opinions diverge. We are talking about the basics of comunication Mr. Larry, Just give your hero a litle boost, because he his misrepresenting you.

      December 20, 2012 at 8:37 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Coach Larry Stump

        Martin usually I would agree with you. I am an Army veteran and my wife is currently in the Army and we have both helped defend everyone's freedom of speech. But we also have a right to life, liberty, and the pusuit of happiness. Do these Sandy Hook victims still have that? No. Once the argument goes to obsurd, and yes, the argument to arm teachers is obsurd, they need to be cut off. Guys like Dulan, Lott and Larry Pratt from the night before, were not there to make the world better, they were there to promot their political agenda and liveleyhood. They needed to be shut up.

        December 20, 2012 at 8:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Kathy

      Dear Coah Stump.. Thank you for your caring post. I could not agree with you more about your observations on our life here in the US, and also about Piers. I truly pray that this time common sense will prevail. I also appreciate the courage of Piers speaking up and stating the truth.. since so many of us simply do not have that platform. When he speaks, he speaks for me, when he screams its exactly how I am feeling. You're the best. Your kids are lucky.

      December 20, 2012 at 9:00 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kathy

      Dear Coach.. Your response to Martin is right on. Those guys Dulan, Lott and Larry Pratt all make their livelyhoods from the sale of more guns! I found their crassness and lack of empathy appauling. The question you pose.. 'Are they trying to make this country a better place?' is the right one. The answer is clearly NO! That is what all of us should be asking.. It does not make us safer, it does not make us a better does not make this country a better place. We are better than this.. Thanks for your truly insightful contributions. It encourages me that there are people like you out there.

      December 20, 2012 at 9:10 am | Report abuse | Reply
  104. gmaureen

    This whole thing could be solved with a "sin tax" on bullets. Judging by the number of guns in America, this tax would go a long way toward solving our debt problems.

    December 20, 2012 at 8:34 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • mzlightner

      Or perhaps a tax on "recreational guns" since no self-respecting hunter would use an automatic weapon on a deer, duck, etc.

      December 20, 2012 at 9:22 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Janet

        Excellent idea. Perhaps the money raised could go to developing more and better mental health programs.

        December 20, 2012 at 10:01 am | Report abuse |
      • citizens against hammer and baseball bat violence

        "Or perhaps a tax on “recreational guns” since no self-respecting hunter would use an automatic weapon on a deer, duck, etc"---
        This is part of the problem. You anti gun people are WAY WAY MISSINFOMED. Even Morgan would not let Lott finish explaining his side. Amazing how everyone becomees a gun expert the second a bad person breaks the law with them. You can not make rational thought becaue your emotions WON"T LET YOU.

        December 20, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
  105. joedog

    I waited and waited for Piers Morgan to allow others to answer his questions to no avail. Ironically, I agree with Morgan on Gun Control; but he needs to allow the debate to proceed. His scolding "Answer my question!" yelled repeatedly serves only to alienate any one with a different view to listen intently. Indeed, his background in sensationalized journalism in the U. K. shows through in a rather rude manner. It is self defeating and it is quite frankly, "BORING!"

    December 20, 2012 at 9:38 am | Report abuse | Reply
  106. Tim

    I noticed whenever the guest named John Lott tried to speak he was shouted down by Pierce Morgan. I will do my own research on John Lott and his position(s) on guns.

    December 20, 2012 at 9:43 am | Report abuse | Reply
  107. Moscatelli

    Last night was the worse town hall meeting I have ever witnessed. Piers Morgan was rude, screaming, and down right nasty. We all now gun control is a sensitive issue. He would ask an audience member a question, and as soon as the person opened their mouth, he jumped on them, screaming, and ranting. I hope people think twice before ever going on his show. I for one will never watch his show again. As for gun control, we need to have open dialogue, without the yelling and screaming.

    December 20, 2012 at 9:44 am | Report abuse | Reply
  108. Some_Guy_In_Australia

    Dear Piers,

    Heres one simple situation (from countless similar situations) that can force the immediate ban of all guns from all streets of america. Consider a woman (having a bad day) walks in a shopping mall and starts shooting. Some guy (a registered gun owner and carrier) leaps to the recue of citizens and starts shooting back (from a distance). Two cops (eating doughnuts at the stall around the corner) run to the scene and are now facing two people shooting at each other. WHO DO THE COPS SHOOT ?

    Given this potential situation can occur on any day, on any street in america, the cops have no choice but to call for the immediate ban of all guns from all streets of the country. With this ban enforced, the cops can then identify and shoot the bad person (ie. the one shooting). Without this ban enforced, the cops are now in danger of either shooting the wrong person (or persons), or placing their own lives at risk by not quickly identifying the correct person to shoot.

    So, arming citizens on the streets of america only reduces their security, places cops in danger, increases the risk of a mass killing (imagine 5 or more citizens and cops blazing away) and frankly, is just really really stupid.

    Onya mate, keep up the good fight 🙂

    Christiane Amanpour is hot 😛

    December 20, 2012 at 9:48 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Some_Guy_In_Australia

      its simple math .....

      no guns = no gun deaths ....

      lots of guns = lots of gun deaths ....

      americans with guns = clint eastwood 'wannabees' (thats aboriginal for stupids)

      i love boobs

      December 20, 2012 at 10:43 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Everett Mack

        Here is some more simply math:

        No automobiles = no automobile deaths
        Lots of automobiles = lots of automobile deaths
        Oh wait, automobiles are YOUR personal privilege, no wonder you don't want those banned.

        December 20, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      So in this alternate reality, the guy with the legally licensed gun does not appear, and meanwhile countless citizens are being shot until the police come. Sounds awful.

      December 20, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • citizens against hammer and baseball bat violence

      –"Heres one simple situation (from countless similar situations) that can force the immediate ban of all guns from all streets of america. Consider a woman (having a bad day) walks in a shopping mall and starts shooting. Some guy (a registered gun owner and carrier) leaps to the recue of citizens and starts shooting back (from a distance). Two cops (eating doughnuts at the stall around the corner) run to the scene and are now facing two people shooting at each other. WHO DO THE COPS SHOOT ?"----
      - Please tell us where this has happened? Amazing how everyone becomes a gun expert from watching tv the second someone breaks the law with them.

      December 20, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Some_Guy_In_Australia

        Consider this situation, a guy with a gun sees a kid walkin along the street with a hoodie. This guy thinks the kid is up to no good and decides to follow him. The guy feels safe because he has a gun. A confrontation ensues and the poor kid gets shot dead. Shot dead for going to the shop to buy some milk and skittels.

        December 20, 2012 at 7:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Some_Guy_In_Australia

      In response to Everett Mack,

      I was hit by a car when i was 8 (i suffered a badly scratched knee after somersaulting through the air a bit) and ive been in about 3 or 4 car crashes. Death by automobile is harder then you think, death by gun is a given.

      December 20, 2012 at 7:33 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  109. Janet

    Mr. Morgan and Producers of your show, The show last night started on such a good note. I started to think that finally we were going to hear a well balanced and peaceful discussion on gun control. Then everything turned on a dime when Mr. Morgan verbally attacked Mr. Lott. It was very obvious that Mr.Morgan was waiting for that moment. It was rude, non productive and only served to weaken the argument. Is this what the USA is about? Political parties at " war" with one another and talk show hosts who think the only way to get their point across is to bully their guests. No wonder so many people own guns so they can protect themselves. Your show last night only served to exemplify that there is not only a culture of violence in the States but also a culture of fear. If words were bullets last night then Mr. Morgan's were coming out of a semi automatic weapon. Why did the producers let the show go so off base? Please let's have another town hall meeting with the same guests.However, bring in another moderator and let's see if that leads to a more fruitful discussion and a better balanced presentation of the issues. An apology from Mr.Morgan and the producers would go a long way in establishing the show's credibility as providing fair and balanced journalism.

    December 20, 2012 at 9:58 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Moscatelli

      You are exactly right!!! I posted on this same issue!

      December 20, 2012 at 10:09 am | Report abuse | Reply
  110. Janet Matthew

    Piers , I agree with you totally!! It's time someone stood up and fought for the victims. Stay mad and focused. Nobody notices the nice polite quite commentator! I'd like to know how many AK-47 owners have needed to pull that weapon out "in their homes or cars" to protect themselves? How many???

    December 20, 2012 at 10:44 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Janet

      You raise a good question asking what are the statistics for people actually needing the guns to protect themselves. Piers Morgan is taking on a leadership role in the issue of banning assault weapons. However, a good leader must show respect and tolerance. His role on the show was as moderator. That entails diplomacy and fairness. If he wished to take time for a "rant" aside from the town hall event that is acceptable.As well, he could have taken on the role as one of the panelist and someone else could moderate. The "rant" is an effective form of communication. Andy Rooney did it well and managed to get his point across to a lot of people. Here in Canada we have Rick Mercer known for his sometimes funny yet effective rants. The one I post here is not funny but it did get nationwide attention.

      December 20, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  111. Ken

    We have mentally sick kids and adults in this country but so do rest of the world. We watch violent Hollywood movies so do rest of the world. Our kids play violent video games so do rest of the world. Then what gives? Guns have to be number one. It makes killing so much easier. Last four shooting were carried out by young white male (I’m profiling a bit), with easy access to guns, they knew how to use them, must have spend lot of time a shooting ranges, probably with their parents. There are video games with samurai fights and people jumping from one building to the other. You don’t see kids doing that!
    It also has to be a medical protocol in this country. It’s supported by physicians, school counselors and pushed by pharmaceutical lobby. If a kid is hyperactive and can’t sit still they are prescribed drugs like Ritalin, Prozac, etc. and let them be zombies!! They are kids and they are hyperactive there are better ways to get their attention.
    Our countries collective conscious, we are the angriest country in the world. Trigger happy, we have fought more wars than any other country. You see this at a 5 years olds soccer game the way parents behave, at high school games and at professional ball parks. Do you think the power of gun and the rush it gives you at shooting ranges makes you trigger happy?
    This is part of our spiritual training. It becomes part of your subconscious more times it’s repeated. This is how religion is taught. Start them young and keep repeating. Gun control will take 2 generations to solve; banning assault weapons for 10 years will not work. Kids have to be surrounded by parents, relatives, friends, teachers, etc. without anger. Parents should show some restraint at soccer games. This collective effort will help raise kids without anger. Hopefully our next generation will not be this angry!!

    December 20, 2012 at 11:01 am | Report abuse | Reply
  112. Henry

    FBI murder report by weapon for 2011:

    * Total murder victims – 12,664
    * total firearms murders – 8,583
    * Handguns – 6,220 victims
    * Rifles – 323 victims (The so called "assault weapons" are rifles)
    * Shotguns – 356 victims
    * Knives or cutting instruments – 1,694 victims
    * Blunt objects (clubs, hammers, etc.) – 496 victims
    * Personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.) – 726 victims

    This data tell us in 2011 a murder victim was more likely to die:

    * 5.24 X more chances from a stab wound than from a rifle.
    * 2.25 X more chances from a punch or a kick than from a rifle.
    * 1.53 X more chances from a hammer or baseball bat than from a rifle.

    Seems to me a lot of people who ask for a gun ban have their priorities quite confused.

    December 20, 2012 at 11:06 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Stephen Welch

      Wow...impressive math. Nice when you can just ignore the 8,583 figure.

      December 20, 2012 at 11:51 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Henry

        Exactly where that figure has been ignored? Have you anything intelligent to say, sir?

        December 20, 2012 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Everett Mack

      Assuming his statistics are correct, he is saying that you are more likely to die from a knife or a baseball bat than an assault weapon. Perhaps, you should take some reading and comprehension lessons, genius. I noticed that Piers was not interested in anything except assault weapon deaths. The overall violent crime rate of other countries didn't bother him at all. This is nothing except politics. If you want to be outraged maybe you should start by banning automobiles, Over 1500 children under the age of 15 die in car accidents every year. Oh wait, you don't want your person privilege to drive taken away do you?

      December 20, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Henry

        The statistics aren't mine, the FBI provides these statistics on their website:

        December 20, 2012 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Russ Pettifer

      I dunno, Henry. I was a social science student and we were forced to take statistics, so I'm no mathematician, but your numbers seem a bit off...

      The total number of firearm deaths (8583) aren't accounted for in your message. Is there something other than a rifle, shotgun, or handgun (total 6897) that counts as a "firearm"?

      December 21, 2012 at 7:42 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • JG

        Its the "other" category of firearm that is missing. Here are all the numbers:

        2011 FBI Firearm Murder Stats
        Total = 8583
        Handguns = 6220
        Rifles = 323
        Shotguns =356
        Type not stated (other) = 1684

        So the other category is quite large (20%) which is unfortunate, making any analysis of gun violence just that more difficult.

        December 21, 2012 at 11:38 pm | Report abuse |
  113. Michael

    Hello mr morgan

    My name is Michael and I live in Frankfurt / Germany.
    We are shocked by the events in Newtown and our thoughts are with the families.
    We grieve with them and pray with them for the loved ones they have lost.

    I wonder why in a country like America, where democracy and peace prevails, that every year more people die from firearms than in Afghanistan or Iraq, where war is open and everyone is running around crazy with a Kalashnikov?

    We follow your show and you have our fully support for your opinion.
    You are the voice for all the innocent souls who lost their lives by a bullet.
    Keep on fighting for this nobel cause and don’t give up.

    Why are weappons needed? Is the most asked question. And the answer is mostly, for selfeprotection.
    But if any killer can buy a gun legally, you're never because you have never had the weapon at hand when the killer enters the house…or the school.

    When you hear the sick comments of those who repreasent or protect the gun lobby, you must puke.
    As well as the comment of one of those last night in your show, that in case of multiple burglars, then you must be better armed and has to have a larger and faster weapon to be shore you shoot them all before they shoote you.

    I have two question that you should ask them.
    If you have to have a faster and more powerfull weapon to conquer…. what’s next ?
    What is the increase in the heads of those who support the arms and sell them in the name of freedom and self-confidence?
    Initially, there were only the Colts, then the guns, now the machine guns.
    But what should make anyone to protect his house, the family and the school where his kids are going ?
    Wire fence around the house, landmines in the garden, hand grenade all over in the house ready to throw???

    We just need to remember 22 years ago when the world could breathe because the could war ended after a arms race which lasted 50 years and the world had to live in threat and were the oponents said the same thing like those guy’s from NRA are saying today: We need more weapons, and powerfull weapons to shock the enamy.

    I am asking me, by my next vacation in the USA, do I need to buy or rent a gun to for my own protection???
    Do America really need this ??
    Greetings from Germany

    December 20, 2012 at 11:09 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • JG

      Michael, very well said! As an American I am ashamed that we are basically off the charts in gun ownership AND murder rates among the major developed/industrialized countries in the world. While the real homicide problem in this country is actually with handguns (about 50% of all murders) there is no place for military style weapons in the hands of the public. Yet there are those in this country who still feel they must have the availability of these types of weapons to resist or perhaps even overthrow the government even though the last time I checked it was freely elected by the people. These are sad days for America but perhaps finally some things will get changed. I am still optimistic.

      And no, you will not need the rent or buy a firearm for your next visit. I am 60 years old and have lived my entire life in the US and have never found a need for any type of firearm for any reason. I took my children to public school when they were younger, I go the movies every now and then, and I lock my doors at night, but I am not living in fear.

      Hope you enjoy your next visit!

      December 20, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Everett Mack

      Have you ever heard the term "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"? We value our freedom in America, and we know that freedom comes at a cost. What happened in Connecticut is tragic for sure, but considering that you come from a country which has thus far started two world wars, and created one of the largest mass murderers in the worlds history, I am not sure you have a leg to stand on in this debate.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Vitali K

      I am fully agree with Michael on this issue. I have a question for which I couldn't find an answer : Why single mother living in safest city in US (Newtown – 1 homicide in a decade) needs to buy 6 guns including semi-automatic rifle? To protect herself from who? And one more thing,if follow the idea "more guns less crime" – how many guns people have in Newtown to make it safest city in US?

      December 20, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  114. Raymond

    Mr. Morgan is incorrect in that the assault weapons ban has reduced violent crime in the US. The Dept. Of Justice website's data between 1993 and 2012 show a continuous decrease in violent crime with no significant bumps on the enactment not expiration of the ban. Please use accurate data when trying to make a blanket statement as a lack of knowledge can be easily disproved. The link to the data is:

    December 20, 2012 at 11:30 am | Report abuse | Reply
  115. Stephen Welch

    Yeah...sure...guns save lives. So do hand grenades and land mines.

    December 20, 2012 at 11:45 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • kappel

      Don't be so ignorant, Stephen. Drunk drivers kill, too. I don't see anyone trying to take away everyone's car because of all the DUI drivers out there.

      December 20, 2012 at 12:02 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Everett Mack

      Approximately 1500 children under the age of 15 die in car accidents every year. Where is the outrage? Let's get real, the anti-gun movement has nothing to do with children dying, it has to do with your bigoted view on guns.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  116. janeiddingsblogger

    The problem I had with Piers program was that it was a 3 ring circus: a panel of experts, an audience of massacre victims, and two others with contrary views that were obviously going to unhinge Piers. Why waste the views of a whole panel of knowledgeable experts including the brilliant Christiane Amanpour and the victims of prior massacres who definitely have opinions and ideas worth hearing? From the reaction of the audience of victims it looked like they were cringing during the confrontation – like children do when their parents are fighting. The program would have been valuable if we had just heard from the audience or we just heard from the experts (and there were too many of them as well). We don't need this circus; we need reasoned, civil thought from knowledgeable, experienced people.

    December 20, 2012 at 11:59 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • kappel

      Couldn't agree more, janeiddingsblogger!

      December 20, 2012 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • American Citizen

      Piers is nothing more than a giant troll looking for ratings. He has no idea how to conduct an interview and should not be allowed to voice his opinion until he learns how to listen and becomes an actual American citizen. His combative style is nothing more than a ratings grab.

      December 20, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • American citizen

        he also needs to educate hiimself on guns before offering his opinion on them. He definitly showed his ignorance on the subject last night. All he knows are the "spin" words that he has learned from other anti-gun activists. He has no idea what he is talking about.

        December 20, 2012 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
  117. American Citizen

    Can someone answer why his "town hall" last night have a majority of non-American citizens on the panel? What weight does that carry?

    December 20, 2012 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Shane

      I love how so many people from other countries and nationalities come to the United States of America...then whine, moan, complain, sue and claim harassment or offended because of this countries beliefs, religious stance or laws and policies. I have many friends of different nationalities...that part doesn't bother me. BUT, this country was founded as a "Nation under God!" If you don't believe in God...either don't come here...or don't participate in prayers, pledges of allegience, one is forcing you to do that...but don't try and force us to change our country.

      December 20, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  118. Tim

    My family deserves the same protection as any other family. Does the the secret service carry semi-automatic weapons to protect the Obama family ?

    December 20, 2012 at 12:36 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  119. shw

    Why Morgan was given a platform on TV in prime time to discuss gun violence in America? He is neither an American nor a law maker. His view on this issue is totally irrelevant . Please write to or call your congressman if you really care about this issue. It is a waste of time to listen to this Brits.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:36 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  120. Fred

    It is pathetic that talk show hosts like Piers Morgan are so ignorant of how firearms function, or the fact that no gun control laws have prevented crimes with firearms. The AWB that sunset had no effect on crimes with Assault Weapons or Long Rifles in general as they compose only 4% of all firearms used in crimes according the the F.B.I. Research funded by the Justice Department under the Clinton administration concluded the effect of the assault weapons ban on gun violence "We cannot clearly credit the ban with any of the nation's recent drop in gun violence."

    Claims that their is no evidence of self defense with AR-15's ignores the use by Korean's during the Rodney King riots and looting in LA, where they protected their property from looters. Nor the protection used by individuals during Hurricane Katrina in LA. to protect their property from looters, etc. The Gun Control crowd also fail to admit that more crimes are prevented yearly by law abiding citizens with firearms than crimes committed with firearms, as high as 5 times as many preventions.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:43 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  121. Liam

    How many british do you have to kick out of one country to get rid of the can't. They just keep coming back over and over like mindless moths to a light. Go back to England and take as many freedom-hating liberal torries with you as you can.
    Facts mean nothing to these buttheads. This is about having Supreme Control over the population...EOS.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Amanda

      What did that little rant have to do with anything?! Very insightful.....not!

      December 20, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  122. Eric

    1 hour show, the main guests got no more than 2 minutes of talking time all while being interrupted by piers. It was a flipping joke, with two brits, morgan and amampour, taking the spotlight with their out of touch opinions on the 2nd amendment. What was interesting to me was the fact that one of their guests SAVED lives with a gun while a madman wanted to kill them in church, and there was really no sound argument by Piers. "oh shes really trained as a policeman", well you clown CCW permit holders have extensive training as well. There are conceal carry classes, providing pertinent skills needed to SAVE lives the same as his guest did. Piers is a hypocrite, and just flat out stupid when it comes to gun control. CNN GET A GRIP, FIRE THIS MAN TODAY!

    December 20, 2012 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  123. Tim

    Piers is not much of a journalist but he IS a great gun salesman. After watching this show, I am going out to get a couple assault weapons and Glocks tomorrow before these idoits dis-arm all the good guys. Thanks for the inspiration Piers.

    December 20, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Paul

      You and thousands of others. Piers and company have helped rush through the sale of every high cap mag across the country. Very effective gun control, idiots.

      December 20, 2012 at 4:23 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  124. Amanda

    I'm English and have been following the news on CNN as I was very moved by this awful tragedy. I don't know what the answer is but I would be concerned to bring my children up where there is such a gun culture. Please don't think I am criticising just stating a fact. I live in the country where guns are used for hunting but I don't know anyone who owns a gun and wouldn't have a clue where or how to buy one so I am shocked at how accessible they are in America.
    Finally I've got to say Piers is not your average English man, he is rude and obnoxious but at least he has got the debate going,he should let people speak though!

    December 20, 2012 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Everett Mack

      There is no debate, it is his voice and his voice alone that is spewing hatred for gun owners. If you want him back we will be happy to let you have him.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Amanda

        Plenty of debate going on here...nope you can keep him...please.

        December 20, 2012 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • bobm


      Probably a good idea to bring your children up in the UK.

      The United States violent crime RATE was 403.6 per 100,000 population in 2010.

      England and Wales’ violent crime RATE was 4079.7 per 100,000 ADULTS in 2010.

      The US has more gun violence, that is true, but the UK has some major issues with violent crime.

      UK population 56 million, US population 340 million.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Amanda

        I find this very hard to believe in fact I don't believe it at all, evidence?

        December 20, 2012 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
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        December 20, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • Russ Pettifer

        Where did you get your figures? They are about double of this:

        And the UK isn't beyond political obfuscation, either. The Home Office in February released notice that there had been a change in the way the stats are handled and this has resulted in skewed results.

        December 21, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Report abuse |
  125. Commenter

    "they can fire four to six bullets a second if they're primed properly. They can fire 100 bullets in a minute if people know what they're doing with them."

    Four to six per second = 240 to 360 in a minute, not 100.

    "Every place that guns have been banned, gun murder rates have gone up."

    Besides yelling "That's a lie!", what statistical proof does Morgan have that it's not true? None.

    Morgan: "Show some respect to the other guests."
    Pro-gun guests: "Show some respect to us by letting us finish talking. Stop shouting us down."

    December 20, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Flyoverman

      PM merely demonstrated his profound ignorance on the subject. FIrst one cannot physically squeeze a trigger 240 times per minute. Try it sometiime. Second, after a maximum of 30 rounds (far less for a pistol) one needs to insert a new magazine. Further, the faster one fires, the more one will miss due to recoil and other factors.

      The question one can ask is how many ACCURATE shots can you fire in a minute based on the above factors with a particular weapon? PM's lack of knowledge on something he has never picked up is readily apparent and makes him ill-equippedto have a serious discussion on the topic..

      December 20, 2012 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Paul

        Exactly, I would to see Piers at the range trying to squeeze off 4-6 shots a second and see how that works out for him.

        December 20, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Report abuse |
  126. Hal Schnare

    The behavior of Pierce Morgan in interviewing the people whose opinion on guns in America he does not favor, is atrocious and totally unprofessional. In my opinion, he should be removed from this job – he cannot handle it – and he is poisoning the already tense situation about guns and makes the coming together of several opposing factions impossible.

    December 20, 2012 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • American Citizen

      Its a ratings grab, nothing more nothing less. He has no clue how to conduct a proper debate, nor does he have any idea about guns. If people stop watching his train wreck of a show, CNN might get the message. As long as people watch him, CNN makes money and he stays on the air.
      I honestly don't think he cares about guns at all, he just knows that's what will being the ratings right now so he jumps on the bandwagon.

      December 20, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  127. Tim

    It took the police 20 minutes to respond. In that time, this nut could have killed 50 people with a butter knife.

    December 20, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  128. Truth

    I do not watch PM and i encourage you all to boycott cnn until they get rid of this idiot. Mr. Morgan and those of similar opinion here have inspired me. i will now join the NRA and GOA. I will also be purchasing a AR-15, assuming I can find one.

    December 20, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  129. Justin Williams

    Roland Martin was fired from CNN for a joke, but CNN is keeping Piers Morgan as he berates people. That is racism at its best!!!

    December 20, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  130. bobm


    You stated, you been in the US for six or seven years. It is time for you to go back to to England.

    CNN should be embarrassed to have you as part of their news organization

    You are the wrong person to lead a civil discussion about gun violence in the US. You bring folks on your show with a different view than yours and then you talk over them, bully them, or belittle them. That may work in England, but it is turn off in the US and nothing gets accomplished. Please do not forget, the US had a revolution war over tyrants like you and you represent your country's history very well.

    CNN is a great news organization. Anderson, Wolf, and Erin are very good at what they do. You are a disgrace and just a bully.

    Please CNN show this guy the door.

    December 20, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  131. Amanda


    December 20, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • bobm

      Rubbish in that the UK has a violent crime issue or rubbish in a Piers Morgan type of response to the truth?

      December 20, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Amanda

        Neither got a new ipad and still getting used to it, wrote that in error! I don't believe you can compare the uk with America like comparing apples to pears and not helpful.

        December 20, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
  132. cojonius maximus

    Piers, like so many other brits is under the impression that the "colonies" are still the subjects of the crown....the second amendment ensures that we are not......

    December 20, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Amanda

      When did this become Brits vs Americans?

      December 20, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • RillyKewl

        Don't you know? Jingoism + xenophobia are staples on the CNN comment threads.
        Easiest ad hominem attacks to get past the auto-censors!
        Its what they like to use when they have no decent debating points.

        December 20, 2012 at 3:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mario

        It became Brits vs America when your red-coat ancesters kicked thier way into american homes, searched for guns, and if found promptly hung the male occupants of the house. Thats exactly why we have a second ammendment, right to bear arms, as well as several others like the 3rd, which Prohibits the forced quartering of soldiers during peacetime, and the 4th, which Prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures. 200 years ago a musket was an "assault rifle", and our British tyrants did everything they could to stop us from having them. You Brits taught us the importance of never letting the tyrants be the only ones with the guns. We american are passionate about our freedoms, and if you haven't notice, find it particularly insulting when a Brit like Mr Morgan proposes taking them away.

        December 20, 2012 at 5:14 pm | Report abuse |
  133. Amanda

    You say PM doesn't let anyone speak if they don't agree with him but fair bit of that going on here! For the sake of your children I hope you can find some resolution.

    December 20, 2012 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • bobm

      Our children are fine. The schools are safe. The possibility of a child getting killed in school is the same as getting killed by lighting. Seven million to one.

      Liberal Americans, news organizations, and liberal politicians, and talk show hosts love sensationalism. Bring up changing abortion rights and watch these folks scream. We have 27 people get killed every day by drunk drivers but where is Piers on this issue?

      This country is divided on these two issues, but our Bill of Rights allows us to function in a civil manner. There is no doubt the US has some issues, but I am blessed to wake up every morning in the US.

      December 20, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Amanda

        With all due respect I think you may be very slightly delusional, if your children are safe why do you carry guns for protection? I even saw a company selling bullet proof back packs with Disney type designs on!

        December 20, 2012 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
  134. Concerned_Citizen

    Keep up the good work Piers, the majority are behind you. The way you fact-check when they try to mislead is awesome!

    There was a guest that said that time is on the side of the NRA, I disagree... The longer that military weapons are legally available, and continue to enable these horrific atrocities, the more outraged the majority will become.

    Sane intellect will eventually prevail. Watching your show makes me proud, not only of the United States, but of Great Britain as well.

    December 20, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Flyoverman

      WIth respect, the need for firearms is not to deal with people of intellect like yourself. You seem oblivious to the evil that is in this world and in your own community. FIrearms responsibily used are no different than fire extinguishers in a different context. They can sit for a lifetime and never have to be used, but when needed they can save lives. If you think that disarming the law abiding will make things better, I suggest you consider the words of author James Bishop, "Supreme cruelty is reserved for the defenseless."

      December 20, 2012 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • JG

        FLYOVERMAN, you are not seriously comparing having an assault weapon around your house loaded and ready for action the same as having a "loaded" fire extinguisher. I'd like to see how many innocent people could be killed by a maniac getting hold of loose fire extinguisher LOL. You've got to come up with a better analogy, if you can.
        I did appreciate your earlier post on the actual number of rounds that could be discharged from the Bushmaster. However, whatever the actual number is, it still seems to me tremendous overkill for any kind of home protection or hunting use. And then when it gets into the hands of a deranged person tremendous damage will be done. Would you want even more powerful military style weapons available for public consumption? Rocket launchers, grenades, SAM's, tactical nukes? Please tell me no.

        December 20, 2012 at 4:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ken Kozak

      I have several problems with your post. I seriously challenge your loose interpetation of what was said, and your use of the word Citizen in your cheaply disguised attempt to appear patriotic. A citizen should value the freedoms they have, and should be upset when another tries to take those very freedoms from them. You on the otherhand, applaud the effort. You belittle all that those of us have fought for by serving our country, by laying our lives on the line. We fought for ALL the freedoms, not just ones that we have a penchant for, or wish to limit to a select few. You would do well to stop pretending to be anything less than a charaltan who wishes to see freedoms destroyed.

      December 20, 2012 at 4:13 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Steve

      This is what frustrates me... let's take a look at your post:

      "The way you fact-check when they try to mislead is awesome!"--debatable...

      "The longer that military weapons are legally available, and continue to enable these horrific atrocities, the more outraged the majority will become."-Case and point. Military weapons are not available to he public. I bet, Mr. Morgan would like you to think so, which is why I wrote "debatable" for my first point.

      "Sane intellect will eventually prevail."-- Thank you for implying pro-gun people are insane. This is why there is no discussion.

      See the problem? Time to fix it. We need a real discussion.

      December 20, 2012 at 4:59 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  135. RillyKewl

    These shows, the last couple of nights have been riveting! Thank you, Piers Morgan!
    Keep this debate going. Don't quit until serious legislation is passed.
    Bring it on. Call out the liars on their false numbers! Ezra Klein finally did.
    These programs have been nothing short of cathartic.

    One little suggestion, If the gun lover calls their weapon a Ferrari, or a Chevy, or whatever— correct the analogy because it seems this is more a love affair, comparable to that of heroin.

    Keep up the strong, good work. You are absolutely, definitely helping.

    December 20, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • bobm

      Riveting in the sense of shouting over someone, bully, and belittling? Then yes, it was riveting, but that is not the way to have a civil dialog about a serious issue. Maybe in the UK, but not in the US. I have witnessed the UK political process and know why Piers acts the way he does.

      What are the false numbers? If you are referring to Piers', I agree.

      December 20, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Steve

      How can you say false numbers? This is the whole problem... people are calling all pro-gun people liars and addicts and this and that... it's ridiculous and it's why no one takes them seriously... ever.

      December 20, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • bobm

        Guns, gun owners, and the NRA get demonized every time a mass shooting happens in this free society by the anti-gun movement.

        We protect banks, airport, politicians, sporting events, and government building with armed security professionals, but even mention the idea of putting these same folks in schools they call the pragmatic conservatives a bunch gun slingers.

        December 20, 2012 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Amanda

      Repeal the 2nd amendment it is an anomaly

      December 20, 2012 at 3:52 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Ken Kozak

        Amanda, at what point should we
        "allow" the government to tell us what freedoms we should have? I believe you are English, and if I am correct, then I understand why you have a hard time understanding the gravity of the situation. We do not believe the government gave us anything. We GAVE the governement the right to goven by consent, and in doing so, we laid out fundational truths that have to be followed. These truths are based in fact, and were understood by blood, shed blood. To allow the eroding of such freedoms to continue without resistence, is not only folly, but is a disaster. You would not understand that because you choose to live in a country with an entirely different form of governance. I ask that you keep your opinons to things of which you know...

        December 20, 2012 at 4:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • Amanda

        I know that nobody seems too concerned with the 3rd amendment! Why so hung up on the 2nd? Should that not be followed too?

        December 20, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
      • bobm

        We like the Second and Third Amendments equally and they are not anomalies. Americans like all the Amendments except for some, the Second Amendment upsets them like you.

        The Second Amendment supports individual rights to own a gun and keeps the states free with the right to form a militia and the Third Amendment right keeps the military out of our private homes during peace time. It was due to England's King housing the military in private homes. One of the reasons the US separated from England.

        Are both Amendments somewhat dated, sure, but collectively all the Amendments of the Bil of Rights are necessary for the Supreme Court to reference in their cases. There are not many times that a case in front of the Supreme Court only references one Amendment.

        Speaking of anomaly, is the idea of England having a Queen a anomaly?

        December 20, 2012 at 5:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • Amanda

        No but if she was still doing what the monarchy in the 18th century did she would be, she is a figurehead now nothing more, we have evolved. I'm not saying we are perfect, far from it, lots off issues in the Uk but you cannot ignore that the gun culture in your country is a problem. The world is shocked at the complacency thank goodness not all Americans think like you.

        December 20, 2012 at 6:25 pm | Report abuse |
  136. Flyoverman

    As an American citizen I do not think it is unreasonable for me to be armed with the same weapons the Obama Adminstration gleefully shipped to the Mexican drug cartels. I believe I should be as well equipped as members of the Aryan Nation, MS13, and the NBPP. I also think it is not unreasonable to be as well equipped as a Department of Education SWAT team that mistakenly kicks my door in mistakenly to collect on a student loan.

    When the government can guarantee that the above and comparable non-military groups have been totally disarmed, I will have a discussion on giving mine up, not before. I was trained to "gain and maintain fire superiority." That is a reasonable and prudent stance to take, IMO.

    December 20, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  137. billfrombellaire

    Couldn't watch the video, but I think I saw this on another blog. Piers keep asking him "how many bullets can an AR-15 shoot in a second?" I would have said none, only a person can make it shoot a bullet from any gun.

    December 20, 2012 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  138. Ted Frederick

    We must have 20 or more Officers driving around here giving drivers nuisance tickets for going 5 miles over the limit or not counting to 10 at stop signs before proceeding. I really think the they could give up at least one to be a guard each day to protect our children.

    December 20, 2012 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  139. Steve

    I would like to preface my comment with the fact that I am a moderate who bases decisions on what is right, not how I feel. I voted for Barack Obama for President, and I voted for Scott Brown for Senator in Massachusetts. It's the way I am, It's the way I will always be.

    I have been reading a lot of different views that have been posted on this comment page for a while. From what I have observed on news shows and on this comment page, the problem with this national discussion is that the anti-gun people come on the web and their argument is that gun owners are crazy, addicts, in-love with their firearms, xenophobes, nut-jobs, and the list goes on and on. Their second argument is that any statistic that people put forth on crime rates are just wrong, without putting up any statistics of their own.

    Another point that anti-gun advocates like to put out their is that they are concerned parents. Well, so are gun owners! The gun community is made up of families! I am 20 and I just recently became a gun owner a couple years ago with my mother! I enjoy skeet shooting, and together we enjoy target practice and it's a great bonding experience we share. People who do not shoot guns do not understand the culture one bit. Whenever I go to the range, I am met with such kind, gentle people who are always offering advice to me, a relatively new shooter. These people wish to harm no one! They only wish to be armed should a time come when they need to defend themselves. I do not know one gun owner who wants to be in a situation when they need to draw their firearm. It is a situation no one wants to be in.

    I cannot bare to watch these "discussions" on T.V. when it comes down to someone just shouting at their guest only because he or she has a different point of view.

    This is the main point of Gun Control; it needs to prevent bad people from obtaining firearms (through background checks or waiting periods, etc...). But, in my opinion, banning "assault weapons" will not solve the problem.(Don't act like you know what "assault weapon" means, unless you really do. If you listen to Mr. Morgan, you probably don't).

    Please, if you are one of those people who just goes on the web and writes what comes passionately to you, please re-read what you are about to send. Supplement your points with facts and thoughtful discussion. If you do not check what you write, your post will most likely be insulting and unproductive.

    I hope that we will all be open to discussion. I certainly am open to solutions that will "do" something, as opposed to solutions that just "feel" right. We need to curb the violence in this country. However, those who believe the problem is only guns are terribly disillusioned. Drunk drivers, drugs, negligent people, gangs, yes guns too, and much more.... are all leading to the high death rate in our country that has made us all paranoid and has saturated our nightly news programs.

    Please people, let's be rational. We are all American citizens, treat each other with respect.

    December 20, 2012 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • bobm

      Steve, good posting!

      December 20, 2012 at 4:38 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Steve

        Thank you, sir!

        December 20, 2012 at 4:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • JG

      Steve, you are probably right that banning "assault weapons" will not have much effect on the problem of reducing gun homicides in the US since "rifle" related murders (FBI Stat designation) only account for about 3% of all homicides in a given year. Most the gun homicides involve handguns (about 50% of all homicides in 2011). However, I still believe a ban on these types of semi-automatic weapons with the capacity to fire 10 to 30 rounds before having to re-load are just too dangerous to have in the public domain and the reduction of their number may actually stop some of these mass killing events which we have witnessed in the last few years. In my opinion, there is no legitimate need for these types of weapons in the home or for hunting. The only rational reason you might want to have one is to use in an armed insurrection against the government which the last time I checked was freely elected by the people. So you may not be very rational if that’s why you think you need one. If that changes, then by all means arm-up. Until then, forget about it!

      December 20, 2012 at 5:01 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Steve

        Yeah, I do not have a gun because I'm worried about the government. I have one because I enjoy the sport of shooting. I will be interested to see how people defend these type of guns. Right now, I just do not know. I am generally against banning things unless I know there will be a positive reward for having such ban. And, you're probably right, and I'm starting to agree, that people do not need 10 to 30 round magazines. However, from what I hear about the assault weapons ban, it did not do much to protect people. I still need more information to make an informed decision, though.

        I thank you for being informed and mature and having a real discussion. This is how people need to talk. Thank you!

        December 20, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Report abuse |
      • kappel

        As far as the magazine capacity is concerned, I don’t think many people understand the need for high capacity mags for home defense. People who are familiar with guns know that very few times is a single ‘hit’ enough to actually stop an attacker, unless it’s a shot to the spine or the brain. An attacker can stab you to death while they are bleeding out. Thus it may take a few well placed rounds to actually stop someone. In addition, remember the man in New York who had just killed his X-boss, and then was killed by the New York cops, who also accidently shot 9 pedestrians? These were well trained police, and yet their adrenaline kicked in and made them that inaccurate. Private citizens also have to deal with these adrenaline surges. So, it could take about a dozen shots just to get 2 or 3 good ‘hits’. Then, add to that the chance that you are being attacked by more than one attacker! Now, you may need 2 dozen rounds to protect yourself…and you don’t have time to reload. This is why gun owners feel the need for higher capacity magazines. High capacity magazines do have a legitimate defense purpose.

        December 20, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • MarkinCA

        Steve and JG, thank you for your mature discussion. This is the type of dialogue we need to have. Many do not have any first hand experience with guns and do not understand those who enjoy shooting sports as a result. Unfortunately, this also renders them susceptible to half-truths and outright inaccurate statements made by those who support gun bans. I have to agree with what Steve said in his initial post; The gun owners I know (and I know many) are law abiding, peaceful, people. It is troubling to see gun owners demonized as dangerous lunatics by gun ban advocates and certain media personalities to advance their political agenda. Personally, I have not seen any evidence that suggests an assault weapon ban would be effective in reducing gun violence. I am equally skeptical that a ban on magazine capacity would cause any real decrease in gun violence.

        December 20, 2012 at 5:45 pm | Report abuse |
  140. Dennis Wilson

    In the wake of the Tragedy gun laws do need to be discussed, but it needs to be a fair and balanced. For a reporter to pick facts and stats only in favor of one side of the issue is not TRUE journalism. This fever to ban "assualt weapons" is more POLITICAL GRANDSTANDING! Want to slant facts? Almost EVERY home in Switzerland has an assualt weapon in it and thier crime rate is very low. Now if you want fair it must be noted that this is how Switzerland defends it self as they more or less depend on citizen soldiers. Another note a person can take a Ruger 10/22 ,which is a 22 caliper hunting rifle, change out the stock and a few other cosmetic changes and it LOOKS just like the DREADED AR15. Now has it become an assualt weapon? Due some of the EXISTING laws need to be fine tuned, or just maybe ACTUALLY ENFORCED, YES.
    Prime example: FEDERAL LAW states an additional 5 YEARS and to ANY sentence in which a fire arm is used.
    NOW for the good part Most if not all drug case's prosicuted by the LOCALs this extra 5yrs does not HAPPEN
    "WHY?" simple drug bust money goes to the STATE only if STATE charges are allowed ADD FEDERAL CHARGES drug bust money goes to FEDS. See how good this LAW works DRUG dealers win and JOE the LAW abiding citizen looses, and it is all done in the name of JUSTICE?
    Proper punishment for the criminals would stop a lot of this. Disarming the law abiding will increase crime. In almost every state that has adopted conceal carry the crime rate has droped.
    In closing if Piers is going to try and use his journalist postion to fan the flames and make the US more like Britan, HE should GO HOME

    December 20, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • JG

      Dennis, take at look at the wikipedia article on Swiss Gun Politics. It is true that the Swiss have very high gun ownership rates of anywhere from 30 to 60 guns per 100 and relatively low murder rates (0.7 murders per 100,000). However, all Swiss men are required to serve in the armed forces and as a result receive weapons and weapons training. During their military training there are issued firearms which they are required to keep at home which is the reason for the high gun ownership number. In the past they had been issued ammunition with these weapons but no longer. "Only special rapid deployment units and the military police still have ammunition stored at home today." So while they have a low murder rate relative to the number of guns most of the time the guns are not loaded especially in the home. The Swiss have this system, I believe, to be able to quickly call up their national militia (which consists of ordinary citizens) by their government in the event of a national emergency (invasion?) . By comparison the US has a murder rate seven times as high as the Swiss rate of about 5 per 100,000 (2009 FBI Stats) and an even higher gun ownership rate of anywhere from 80 to 100 guns per 100 persons or nearly one gun for every man, woman, and child in the country. There is no other developed/industrialized nation on earth that comes even close. Seems a bit out of whack to me.

      December 20, 2012 at 4:47 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  141. Ken Kozak

    It was a tragedy that 20 kids died a useless and unwarranted death. Its a tragedy that Piers Morgan has to use this as a means to boost his sagging ratings. Pitiful and shameful. (and those that give him props, your not a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem)

    December 20, 2012 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  142. MarkinCA

    Focusing on the type of gun used in a horrible attack like Newtown is simply a distraction. Hours could be spent on shows like this, with hosts who clearly do not know much about handling firearms, talking about this gun or that gun. Perhaps we need to have that conversation publically as many are not actually familiar with firearms. I know many people in my personal life that only know about guns what they see on TV or movies, much of which is not real. The answer Pier’s question about how many bullets a second an AR-15 can fire depends on who is holding it. Sure, in the hands of someone with experience it can fire 2-3 rounds per second, but you can do that with a revolver. I’ve seen people sustain incredibly fast rates of fire with a revolver and speed loaders. The British infantry, back in WW I days, used to have a drill called the “mad minute”. The drill consisted of scoring 15 hits at 300 yards (yes a target three football fields away) in one minute using a bolt-action rifle. Many qualified riflemen were capable of shooting much faster than that…with a bolt action rifle. The worst domestic attack on school children was actually committed in 1927 with bombs. If the shooter in Newtown used the pistols he was carrying I doubt the outcome would have been any different. That is why focusing on the type of gun is a distraction. It was the intent and actions of the shooter that caused this horrific event. He would have done it with or without an AR-15.

    December 20, 2012 at 4:45 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  143. Concerned_Citizen

    The AR-15 was first built by ArmaLite as a selective fire rifle for the United States armed forces. Because of financial problems, ArmaLite sold the AR-15 design to Colt. The select-fire AR-15 entered the US military system as the M16 rifle.

    Military weapons cannot be legally accessible in America. We must protect the freedom of our 5 year old children to attend kindergarten and live through it.

    December 20, 2012 at 4:54 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • MarkinCA

      Yes, emphasis on "selective fire rifle". That means fully-automatic. That is not what we are talking about here. The civilian version is semi-auto only.

      December 20, 2012 at 5:11 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  144. Barry

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  145. Mario

    Amanda, to answer your question......It became Brits vs Americans when your red-coat ancesters kicked thier way into american homes, searched for guns, and if found promptly hung the male occupants of the house. Thats exactly why we have a second ammendment, right to bear arms, as well as several others like the 3rd, which Prohibits the forced quartering of soldiers during peacetime, and the 4th, which Prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures. 200 years ago a musket was an "assault rifle", and our British tyrants did everything they could to stop us from having them. You Brits taught us the importance of never letting the tyrants be the only ones with the guns. We americans are passionate about our freedoms, and if you haven't noticed, find it particularly insulting when a Brit like Mr Morgan proposes taking them away.

    December 20, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Clint

      Great posting!! unfortunatly the gun cotrol advocates don't give a crap about history or facts. They think everything is determined by their emotions at any point in time.

      December 20, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Amanda

      Hilarious, reminds me I must put my red coat in the dry cleaners. Stop living in the past and get out a little more!

      December 20, 2012 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Mario

        Tell that to the Bosnians and Albanians that were slaughtered by the thousands right in your European backyard. Bet they wish they had some AR-15s and 30 round magazines......but they didn't,..... so now they're in mass graves that we are still uncovering. That was 10 years ago, not 200, so tell me again how much you have evolved?

        December 20, 2012 at 8:14 pm | Report abuse |
  146. RandomGunOwner

    Calling this a 'debate' was laughable. We need to be reasonable adults about this. Calm, rational discussion grounded in facts, not feelings, facts. We can start there and find some middle ground (which there is a lot of!).

    If you want to have a meaningful debate, most gun owners/NRA members are certainly open to it, as am I being both. All I ask, be consistent. I respect other points of view but I don't have to yell to get mine across.

    Stuff like this does not help anyone on either side of the issue. Piers said 'what can we do about repealing the second amendment?' the night before then says 'I respect the second amendment' during this so-called debate. That is so disingenuous. Be honest, say you hate it. I may not like your point of view and disagree with it, but at least I'll respect you and engage you in an honest debate. This whole thing was just.. bad. I knew it would be anyway but it turned out even worse than I expected. It was rare I tuned him in before, never, ever again after watching this.

    December 20, 2012 at 5:30 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  147. Clint

    This may be off topic but I think it is important. Notably because Piers is a dual – citizen or at least a British citizen. Think about that for a moment a citizen of two countries. Fine, but a citizen of another country holding an important govermental position or office in this country. I believe anyone in puplic service to the American people should be there 100 % of the time working for what is best for America. Can you really imagine someone who has a foreign citizenship in another country to be totally biased towards the American people 24 hrs. a day 365 days a year, I can't and I don't think it would be expected of them. But should they hold office or write policy?

    December 20, 2012 at 6:04 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Jim

      PM is not in a gvt position Clint. He is just a TV reporter full of opinionated crap.

      December 20, 2012 at 6:09 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  148. Jim

    It is real sad to hear such a pompus ass speak about OUR country the way he did. Please go back to your country and let an American do your job. You are taking a job away from someone who needs it. Show some respect for the families who have lost their sweet angels. Let them greeve in peace. then let US AMERICANS handle this issue not you...... Go back to the island and suck it.....

    December 20, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  149. Martin

    This was an outrageous "debate". It was only another opportunity for Piers to show his ass. You can't call yourself a journalist Piers if you lie and twist the facts, and treat your guests like you are chastising children. I have seen countless people correct his statements about AR15 rifles and he continues to talk about them like they are fully automatic machine guns. Its enough to say they have little practical use, you don't need to lie about their capabilities. You are a boorish man and show your ignorance. You are not helping the discussion on gun control and I would say as a non-citizen, you have no business inserting yourself into this discussion at the level you are attempting to. Go back to the UK and be comfortable in the fact that your citizens can't defend themselves.

    December 20, 2012 at 6:08 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  150. Michelle

    Go Piers! some sort of effort must be made to keep weapons that have no purpose other than mass human killing out of the hands of civilians. There is simply no way any normal person needs a weapon like that to protect themselves. These weapons can so easily fall into the hands of maniac killers who can then all too easily carry out mass human murder. Something must be done

    December 20, 2012 at 6:16 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Clint

      Hey, let's start with the military, the full auto small and large calibers, grenades, morters, missiles, rockets, tanks, jets, subs, and ships. World peace is almost here. Oh and the nuclear weapons too we don't want those going off, and the dupleted uranium rounds, nasty stuff, kids with one eye or two heads, American democracy at it's best. Besides we humans are a gentle race, if you overlook the constant war, torture, and kiillings. Goverments always save the day though uhtil someone like this shooter becomes king or dictator, then well millions perish- oh well.

      December 20, 2012 at 6:41 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Clint

      I think we need refrigerator locks, biometric can openers to keep the beer out of the hands of youth, younger than 25, phychologica exams may be in order also for any wish to indulge in their love affair with alcohol. Hey did you know it was alcohol that kept George Wahington warm when he crossed that rive. What was that river now, hmmm.

      December 20, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • MarkinCA

      Michelle, I would like to address your post in a couple of ways. First I would like to point out there are many reasons a "normal person" might want a semi-automatic rifle. I ask you this out in all seriousness and not to dismiss your belief, but have you ever fired a gun? I know many people who share your belief, but have never fired a gun or have very little knowledge about firearms. One reason is that a semi-automatic rifle is a very good choice for personal defense. I would encourage you to look at the criminological study of defensive gun uses. The evidence shows that “normal people” use guns to defend themselves every day. We could get into a very long conversation about the actual number of these defensive gun uses including such interesting subjects such as research methodology and statistical analysis, but suffice it to say that “normal people” really do use guns for self defense.
      Second, I would like you to consider it is highly unlikely that an "assault weapons" ban would have prevented this or any other tragic violent attack. A sick individual intent on killing innocent children will find a way to accomplish their horrible goal. Contrary to what Piers said, there is no definite evidence the last federal assault weapons ban had any causal impact on violent crime. Assault rifles are very seldom used in violent crime. Far more people are killed every year with knives than rifles. Actually, more people are killed every year with hands, fists, or feet than rifles. So, there is little reason to believe that an assault weapons ban would have any meaningful impact on violent crime overall. Furthermore, if the shooter had used some other type of gun the outcome would likely have been the same, so I am not convinced an assault weapons ban would even prevent these mass shootings. Lastly, gun bans don’t work. They only prevent law abiding citizens from getting that type of gun. Think about it. A person planning to kill scores of innocent children is unlikely to be deterred from illegally obtaining any weapon they want to carry out their horrible plan.

      December 20, 2012 at 7:19 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  151. movarth

    I think Morgan should leave this country because he obviously isn't American.

    December 20, 2012 at 6:26 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  152. movarth

    This coming from a country where folks beat each other into lifeless comas over the outcome of a soccer match.

    December 20, 2012 at 6:29 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Dyan

      He can't go back to England, he'll go to jail if he does. Piers Morgan is facing questions - serious questions - as England’s phone hacking scandal is spreading with four more people filing lawsuits. That's why we are stuck with him. CNN, Please Please Please fire this pompous Brit.

      December 22, 2012 at 6:42 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  153. doonns

    Excellent, Piers. You have awakened the conciousness of teh American people. This is a very emotive subject. These people, I believe, are hiding behind the 2nd amendment. And, very regrettably, totally mis-reading its intent. I am horified to hear any one even suggest that teachers/principals should carry arms or have arms on the premesis. Question, where would they keep it. They would be petrified that it could be 'stolen'. If it is kept under 'lock & key', then by the time they could get to it, the carnage would be over. If you have to have a gun for your personal protection, then at the most you would require one that could fire at the most up to 10 rounds. I am sure the American people do not expect to protect themselves from a large number of persons who would barge into their home. It is generally one person and you need just one bullet to scare or sort our that person. I hear that the semi-automatic guns are required when people go hunting. I thought one bullet is generally ample to kill an animal. Yes, if you are poor marksman, then you would fire another shot. A magazine with 10 bullets should suffice. If you cannot get your target with even 10 bullets, well, then you should not go hunting in the first place.
    I am heartened to see that .President Obama has taken tangible steps and feel confident that this would lead to some very constructive Gun Control Laws, NRA notwithstanding.

    December 20, 2012 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • MarkinCA

      Please then, explain the intent of the 2nd Amendment.

      December 20, 2012 at 7:34 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Clint

      You think too much doonns. You can't make decisions based on assumptions. Didn't anyone ever tell you "never assume". All you need is two things 1. a persona definition of "liberty" that you could explain to someone if they asked. 2. a personal definition of money that you cold explain if someone asked.

      December 20, 2012 at 7:55 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  154. Concerned_Citizen

    The side-effect of allowing military weapons, such as the AR-15 to be in legal circulation of the American public, is the slaughter of innocent babies in a kindergarten classroom, and this is an unacceptable price to pay.

    If this select-fire military weapon would have been modified to be "selected" into fully automatic mode, this atrocity would have destroyed far more American families and lives than it already did.

    It defies sense of any kind to try to suggest that because this weapon was limited to semi-automatic mode, that what happened is somehow acceptable. The destruction in semi-automatic mode is exceedingly horrifying enough.

    It's more than fair, to spare the lives of innocent children, at the expense of locking military weapons up in armories where they belong.

    I can't believe in this day an age I even have to write this to try and appeal to fellow American citizens.

    December 20, 2012 at 6:40 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Clint

      You mean in this day and age where there hasn't been a major war in over half a century, where we spend half our budget of "weapons", where every other nation in the world keeps buying and buying and buying weapons for who knows what , where Orwell himself could not imagined the depths of goverment encroachment and intrusion. where our nation has been subdued by bankiers who have converted our money and wealth into stock certificates. where the only thing that keeps us running is the fact that nobody understands what they are doing and nobody is allowed to know.The day and age where the Bildebergs and the CFR forms policy and the man on the street has never heard of them. The day and age where the movies today would have stunted my growth back in 69' ( I was scared of the birds and the blob) now we have jason, where video games prep and desensitize our troops, Where out of sight is out of mind – Think Iraq. Oh that day and age. And I would have the gall to defend myself. oops

      December 20, 2012 at 7:04 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  155. scottinstl

    Piers is a complete idiot. I challange him to trigger off 100 rounds in a minute with a semi auto weapon. Maybe he should take his stupid limey butt back to England. The problem with growing up a subject rather than a citizen is you get acustomed other people thinking for you. If you don't like it here go back where you came from. We already threw the arrogant POHMs out of here once we can do it again. The second ammendment was a direct result of throwing them out the first time.

    December 20, 2012 at 7:10 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  156. Riverrascal

    Between the show and blog comments, it proves we need to listen more and talk(shout) less.

    December 20, 2012 at 7:16 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  157. dave w

    your math isnt too good piers
    its no more dangerous to be in the US or UK

    firearm homicide / firearms = folks killed per gun
    58 / 1,800,000 = .0000322
    8775 / 270,000,000 = .0000325


    December 20, 2012 at 7:30 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • JG

      dave w, your math is OK but you are making an interesting point that I don’t think you were anticipating and your conclusion about it being no more dangerous to be in the US or UK is completely wrong. With the data from the US and UK you have shown the number of gun murders appears to be just a function of the number of guns. Therefore if you reduce the number of guns and you will reduce the number of gun related homicides. In the US there are about 90 guns per 100 people as you have correctly stated (~270 million guns) or nearly one gun for every man woman and child. In the UK using your numbers, which I believe are a bit low, there are only 3.3 guns per 100 people (1.8 million/53.7 million population). Therefore according to your premise that the number people killed per gun is the same in the US and the UK, which may actually be sound, there are only 58 gun related homicides. The number of homicides in the UK is so low precisely because there are so fewer number of guns. Get rid of the guns and you get rid of the murders. This is why it so much less likely to be killed by a firearm in the UK than the US. Well done!

      December 20, 2012 at 11:13 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Stan V

        And is your math good? Did you account for the number of NON GUN murders in the UK compared to the US?

        No, you didn't. Funny after you comment to the previous poster you miss such an obvious thing yourself.

        Thanks for the laugh.

        December 21, 2012 at 12:11 am | Report abuse |
      • JG

        Stan V, not sure what you are getting at. You will have to elaborate. The total number of homicides in the UK in 2009 was reported to be 722 or 1.2 per 100,000. In the US it was 15,399 or 5.0 per 100,000! As discussed previously there are many fewer gun related deaths in the UK due to many fewer guns. So there are many fewer total homicides in the UK compared to the US. What am I missing? Please explain? Are you talking about violent crime rates instead? Some posts have claimed that the violent crime rate in the UK much higher than the US. I am trying to verify this and examine its impact on these gun ownership issues.

        December 21, 2012 at 1:01 am | Report abuse |
      • Ryan

        JG- The point everyone seems to miss is that homicides increase upon passage of gun control laws! Britain's homicide rate has always been low, even when their gun control laws were comparable to the US. Upon passage of their handgun ban in 1997, when they went door-to-door to confiscate (steal) their citizen's guns, homicides increased. Only now are they starting to return to their "pre-ban" levels.

        December 22, 2012 at 2:05 am | Report abuse |
      • JG

        Ryan, yes, the homicide rate in the UK increased slightly after the handgun ban in 1997 but they are now 20% below the 1997 level. Not a large decline but a decline nevertheless. According to the UNODC data the homicide rate in the UK went from 1.5 in 1996 to 2.1 in 2002. It then began to decline to a 1.2 level in 2009 (last year of available data in UNODC data sheet). To put that in perspective, the US murder rate was over 8 in 1995, declined to 5.6 in 1996 where it stabilized until 2008 where it started to decline again. In 2010 it was 4.8. My point is primarily that the higher murder rates in the US are due in part to the higher gun ownership levels which are about 10 times higher in the US than the UK. If you plot murder rates and gun ownership levels in industrialized countries you get a fairly good correlation between gun ownership and murder rate. The higher the gun ownership levels are, the higher the murder rates.
        I t would be very interesting to track the violent crime rate and murder rates over time vs. the gun ownership levels over time. I am in the process of looking for that info. Some have suggested that violent crime rates (excluding murder) actually go down as gun ownership levels go up. I'm skeptical but would like to see the data in any case.

        December 22, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Report abuse |
  158. Mario

    Hey Piers, I shudder to think about living in a place like this next time this tinderbox blows, and not being able to defend myself and my family.......hope this wasn't sign of things to come. I know some Korean business owners that could probably give you Brits some advice on how to prepare for these nasty scenarios......oops, I take it back, they would tell you how to defend your lives and property with firearms, which of course is illegal in UK......London Riots 2011:

    December 20, 2012 at 8:38 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  159. A concerned American

    CNN – why did you hire Piers Morgan? He is obviously an incompetent journalist who has already proven himself to be unethical and lacking in objective journalistic skills. Someone else posted the link to an article about why Piers was fired from the BBC.

    Here it is:

    I had no idea he was this bad. Really the right thing and fire him. He holds no journalistic credibility and to give him a platform on this very sensitive AMERICAN issue is just plain wrong. He continues to ram his political agenda down the throats of anybody he interviews without giving them the courtesy of responding and has proven repeatedly that he cannot be objective and is highly uninformed. If this is the type of journalism CNN condones and is willing to let continue, then I will find another place to get my news information. I'll be waiting to see if CNN actually responds to this atrocious behavior by their employee or if they continue to ignore the overwhelming majority of people who believe that this man has no business running any type of debate or town hall discussion.
    If you must insist on keeping him on your payrolls, then at least let him go back to his normal celebrity gossiping where he belongs....on the International page of CNN.

    December 20, 2012 at 11:15 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • sean

      You hit the nail on the head, I am absolutely disgusted with his behavior. For CNN to give him this platform just confirms my belief as to how far out of touch CNN is with reality. I believe we need dialogue regarding gun control and the use of these type of weapons. Piers refers to it as a AR, when in fact it is not a AR.....AR stands for automatic rifle. This is a Semi-automatic rifle. I am all for gun control, but am against a ban on these types of weapons. They have a use in our society just like every other type of weapon.

      December 21, 2012 at 9:17 am | Report abuse | Reply
  160. Omar Rocks

    First, Mr. Morgan was intentionally misleading with his statistics. The AR-15 Semi-automatic Rate of Fire is 45 rounds per minute (RPM). Its limitation is how fast someone can pull the trigger. Mr Morgan was referring i believe to the Military Automatic version called the M-16 which is capable of a Rate of Fire of 600 RPM.

    I never have understood CNN's logic in choosing him to replace Larry King. Like many people, I consider him arrogant, ill-mannered and primarily interested in listening to himself speak. You would have to work very hard to actually learn anything factual vs. opinionated from watching this show

    December 20, 2012 at 11:30 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  161. Scott

    Dear CNN – This is like a break up letter! After so many years as supporter of CNN, and loyal TV viewer, and listener on Sirius radio I find myself turned off by Piers Morgan's ranting about his views on U.S. gun ownership, and the Americans who own them. I am a disabled vet, law abiding U.S citizen, and a Democrat who owns guns and enjoys shooting them. Having the ability to defend my neighbors and loved ones should the need arise is important because police generally show up after the crime is committed. My father was a Cop, so I have respect for what they do and know they can't be everywhere. My stomach turns when I see CNN allowing Pier's to step all over our American values and beliefs, and I suggest he looks in the mirror and remind himself many Americans believe he was involved in the phone hacking incidents and is a news media predator with no credibility who takes advantage of those who recently suffered a tragic loss. I am contacting everyone I know and asking they stop supporting CNN until we "American's" who legally own guns (regardless of the caliber)receive an apology for CNN's support of this news airbag, anti-American, feeding off the tragedy of all those that lost their lives to gun violence recently. If someone in that school (other than the madman) had a gun many lives could have been saved by stopping his attack, but there is no doubt lives still would have been lost. Ask Piers if we should also outlaw cars because a crazy person might get in one and run down a bunch of children? Please remind Piers he would be speaking German had us gun toting Americans not laid our lives down to save England during the war.

    December 21, 2012 at 12:56 am | Report abuse | Reply
  162. Scott

    I find myself turned off by Piers Morgan's ranting about his views on U.S. gun ownership, and the Americans who own them. I am a disabled vet, law abiding U.S citizen, and a Democrat who owns guns and enjoys shooting them. Having the ability to defend my neighbors and loved ones should the need arise is important because police generally show up after the crime is committed. My father was a Cop, so I have respect for what they do and know they can't be everywhere. My stomach turns when I see CNN allowing Pier's to step all over our American values and beliefs, and I suggest he looks in the mirror and remind himself many Americans believe he was involved in the phone hacking incidents and is a news media predator with no credibility who takes advantage of those who recently suffered a tragic loss. I am contacting everyone I know and asking they stop supporting CNN until we "American's" who legally own guns (regardless of the caliber)receive an apology for CNN's support of this news airbag, anti-American, feeding off the tragedy of all those that lost their lives to gun violence recently. If someone in that school (other than the madman) had a gun many lives could have been saved by stopping his attack, but there is no doubt lives still would have been lost. Ask Piers if we should also outlaw cars because a crazy person might get in one and run down a bunch of children? Please remind Piers he would be speaking German had us gun toting Americans not laid our lives down to save England during the war.

    December 21, 2012 at 1:01 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kristina

      "Please remind Piers he would be speaking German had us gun toting Americans not laid our lives down to save England during the war."

      Haha! Ahh you Americans! Always returning to the same old arguments. If you wish to play that game, I thank the Polish and my country's absolutely amazing RAF and the defenses and bravery of every other European in the resistance against the Germans. If that's the game that you want to play, America only got involved in the last leg when we were winning anyway and only for your own selfish reasons or you wouldn't have been involved at all. On account that you clearly barely every look out at the rest at the world because you're too busy looking at your own country through rose tinted glasses and polishing your gun, Europe doesn't have issues with Germany anymore, we buried the hatchet long ago. Besides, Germany pretty much calls the shots in Europe now anyway!

      If you would like to start a bickering war with the UK, please be more original.

      December 23, 2012 at 10:21 am | Report abuse | Reply
  163. sean

    While watching Piers a few nights ago discuss gun control with Pratt I became completely disgusted with his behavior. To have an opinion or view is one thing but when you do not allow your guest to speak and you shout over them, and call them stupid is beyond belief, Piers where is your journalistic integrity. I had to sit and watch as he did it again tonight when talking to another guest. What really bothers me is you have no knowledge or first hand experience handling these weapons that you are speaking about. Maybe you should go to a course and learn about these type of weapons, how they fire and why they are so powerful. Maybe even fire one yourself. Then once you do that I will feel you have the right to give your expert opinion. I am a avid gun owner, who served 21 years in the US Army, was a commissioned law enforcement officer with a major metropolitan police department and now protect our US Diplomats. I have over two decades of experience with these types of weapons, and when in the right hands are perfectly safe. You spout of numbers on your show regard AR's that are completely inaccurate. These weapons are only as dangerous as the person using them. What we really need to look at is why were these made available to a young man that obviously should not have had access to them? Why was his mother taking him to a shooting range when she new he was unstable? Why were these guns not secure? These are all questions we need to be asking, long before we even say ban all assault rifles. I believe there needs to be a more complete back ground check for persons wanting to purchase these types of firearms, and that you need to have some kind of inspection of your home so show you have the means to properly secure them. Had his mother lived I think we all would be looking towards her, and I am confident she would be in handcuffs! Unfortunately her lack of concern for safety cost her and 26 other innocent souls there lives. Guns do not kill people Piers, People kill people. This is the United States of America, where gun ownership is a 2nd amendment right. Do we need more regulation we need to ban this type of weapon....NO....if these weapons had not been available to the LAPD during the hollywood bank robbery from a local gun store then more people would have been killed.

    December 21, 2012 at 8:45 am | Report abuse | Reply
  164. raymond harper

    all the hot shot reporters ignore the thousands of unborn children killed in america with out firing one single bullet

    December 21, 2012 at 10:28 am | Report abuse | Reply
  165. Tim

    It is amazing to see how many "pro-choice" or (pro-death) advocates like Piers Morgan are suddenly pretending to care about the lives of children or human life in general, for that matter. This is rich.

    December 21, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  166. Karen

    So proud of Piers Morgan. Keep it up. Let this be your legacy to humanity. Stopping the ignorance about gun ownership in America!

    December 21, 2012 at 2:28 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  167. Ardy Ell

    With Mr. Morgans obvious lack of interviewing skills it becomes abundantly clear why he favors tapping telephones to get a story..........

    December 21, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  168. Jon

    I support the assault weapon ban and magazine/clip capacity limitations for the same reasons as most others in favor of this ban. We will never control guns in the US – too many guns out there to count, too many advocates, 2nd Amend interpretations, etc. However, we can try to prevent/lessen further gun violence as best we can. I am in favor of using the asset seizure laws they use for drug offenses for gun offenses. This would apply to unregistered and illegal guns found in cars, homes, etc. There are already laws for illegal gun possession, but we should add that any person convicted of having unregistered or illegal firearms lose all their assets – cars, home, savings, etc. Same for gun sellers skirting the registration laws to sell weapons. Make this a set of federal laws to the states cannot choose to igore the law or decide to enact their own more lenient laws. The 2nd Amend is federal law, so gun registration and types of weapons bans are also federal matters. Is keeping an unregistered or illegal handgun worth a few hundred dollars worth losing your car or house over? Maybe more registration and controls at all levels will save just a few more lives.

    December 21, 2012 at 4:53 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  169. Richard Smith

    If Americans think more guns is the answer then let them think like that. At least they'll wipe more of themselves out that way lol.

    December 21, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  170. Mark Davies

    Piers had the courage to shut-down an aggressive liar on his show – good for him. Worryingly so many respondents here side with the maniacal arguments of the NRA and can't see the truth that is obvious to the rest of the world. Gun murder rate is about 250 times higher in the US than UK, Germany, Australia , NZ etc. Open your eyes, think for yourselves, try and be really free!

    December 21, 2012 at 9:30 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  171. Bob Williams

    Timothy McVeigh didn't use a gun. Yet he killed 168 people.
    Killed 19 children under age 6!
    Injured over 680 innocent people.
    You can still buy fertilizer. You can still buy racing fuel. You can still rent box trucks.
    Murderers will murder with or without a gun.
    Guns are not the problem.
    Guns are NOT the problem,
    Bob Williams

    December 21, 2012 at 9:37 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kristina

      Bob, the other things that you mention have other uses and are not purely produced, bought and owned with the possible intention of harming another person.

      True guns are not THE problem, but they are definitely a problem!

      It is also true that you can murder someone without a gun, but it's a hell of a lot more difficult to murder with a knife for example, than it is with a gun. Guns depersonalize. You can murder from a distance without getting up close and actually SEEING a person. You take away the connection that you are taking a person's life. On top of this it is also cowardly – at least when attacked with a knife a person may have some sort of a chance to defend themselves, whereas with a gun someone may be completely unaware that they are being aimed at.

      If you can't see that guns are a problem, I think there may be a problem with you.

      December 23, 2012 at 10:06 am | Report abuse | Reply
  172. KPH in KY

    Next to Obama, Piers has become one of the best gun salesmen in the U.S.!

    December 21, 2012 at 9:43 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  173. astransman

    It is becoming painful to watch Piers night after night being so rude and abusive towards his guests. The role of the host is NOT to browbeat guests. It is to engender an exchange of ideas. some of which may well be objectionable to the host and audience. Piers, while I agree with your position regarding the proliferation of deadly weapons in America, I would have preferred to hear Mr. Lott's explanation than you berating him. If your guests do not have viewpoints that are worth hearing, don't have them on. You are disgracing yourself as a journalist and an interviewer. Shame on you.

    December 21, 2012 at 9:53 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  174. User 56743


    I have been following your remarks on guns with a degree of amusement. You clearly don't understand a few basic things about NRAmerica.
    1. A lot of gun people are nuts. Their rationale for needing semi-automatic weapons is to protect themselves from "the new world order", Obama and the communists, the coming breakdown of civil society, etc. If you believe in these notions (as they do) then wanting a Bushmaster makes perfect sense. You are perplexed because you are thinking of rational threats like home invasion or car jacking. You blew it the other day when the gun guy said he needed a semi-automatic weapons in case he was attacked by multiple bad guys at one time. If you had pursued this paranoid mindset calmly you would have exposes the lunacy, but instead you let him slip away as a sympathetic character.
    2. Americans fear government. The second amendment is about expecting that one day it will be necessary to overthrow that government. Heavy weapons in the hands of the people are another "check and balance" on that possibility. You can't see that because that notion seems absurd to a European. You long ago decided to accept the price of civil society, which is a degree of vulnerability to abuse by government. America is not there yet
    3. "Happiness is a warm gun. When I feel my finger on your trigger, I know nobody can do me no harm.", said John Lennon prophetically. Some gun owners just love the semi-erotic rush of power that comes from fondling a dangerous weapon. They imagine themselves as the hero who kills "bad guys".
    4. Stop talking about "assault weapons" and go big. What needs to be banned is ALL weapons that can fire more than X times per second. Once again the gun guy in your audience gave you an opening on this and should have grabbed it. He taunted you about hunting weapons that "only look like" military weapons and you fell for the trap.
    You need to get a lot sharper to have any hope of pushing back the madness.

    December 21, 2012 at 10:44 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  175. William A. Hall

    Mr. Morgan, Cell phones used to text and place calls in Cars cause just a little less than 3 times the amount of people killed by guns. It is done deliberatly by the phoners who unless they are idiots know that they are placiing lthe lives of all around them in danger. Why no Cry to ban them? We have all the evidence in the world that warnings and laws don't work. The people simply cannot be trusted with them. Re the Connecticut tragedy: I hear of increased security measures. But they will not work with out armed guards or police officers in the schools. If someone is so determined to murder, he or she does not have to go through a door. They can go through any opening. I spent many years securing sensitve weapons sites (NUCS) we were succesful because we had barriers and armed guards. A person who is not concerned with surviving their Murderous terrorist act can only be stopped by force. As we all know the police at Sandy Hook got to the school in 7-8 minutes with their guns. They mignt as well had long stemmed roses instead of guns because the kids were already dead. someone on every campus must be armed (more than one is better). A police argument is that this would confuse the issue when they arrive. SO WHAT Armed Guards or Armed Teachers could have saved many or perhaps all of the kids. The police can figure this out. Your interviews with your alleged experts are a joke. I am a bonified expert and would like to debate the issue with you. I believe I can shout "You are an idiot as well as you can. Your experts are mostly completly ignorant of the issues of guns. Do you know how stupid you sound. I am dissapointed in CNN for allowing you to deliberately mislead the audiience. I just don't believe that you are stupid enough to believe your own ridiculous arguments. Are you being paid to lie??? Or are you truely and idiot?

    December 22, 2012 at 12:21 am | Report abuse | Reply
  176. Jayson R. Cottle

    Hear are some #'s you might like to know, as of July 21,2011 the population of the US was 311,800,000 million and in that same year there where 9,369 gun related murders. So lets see what that means; by doing the math on the numbers given by the FBI the odds of you being murdered in a gun crime are % 0.0000310, that is a 33,279.96 to 1 odd. The odds of you being killed in a transportation accident IN THE NEXT YEAR is 77 to 1!!!!!

    December 22, 2012 at 1:32 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • JG

      ?? If I don't have my car, it is true I am less likely to be involved in a traffic accident, but then I will not be able to get to work, go the grocery store, take my kids to school, go to movies. You see my car's primary function is to transport me from point A to Point B. It is not for me to take a chance of getting killed in a potential accident. I make that choice freely every time I get in my car and go somewhere.
      But if I don't have my gun then... well... nothing...I don't need a gun, certainly not a high powered assault rifle, for ANYTHING. It is certainly not worth the risk of keeping it in my home. Your comparison is seriously flawed, in my opinion, of course.

      December 22, 2012 at 5:31 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  177. Jayson R. Cottle

    Here is another #'s game the media is playing with us, trying to compare us, the USA with other countries like the UK – well lets look at just a small number that concerns the two countries – the US has 311,800,000, the UK has a population of 63,181,000 😮 . THE US HAS 4.935 TIMES THE POPULATION AS THE UK!!! No kidding the murder rate is greater in the US. Don't be deceived by the confident use of numbers by the media, go find it yourself, its not hard. Hears sum stuff on Australian to. Take a close read wen you get to the part about dwellings.
    Australian crime: Facts & figures used ABS data on causes of death, but coding procedures used since 2004 (related to an increase in the number of open coroner’s cases) have resulted in an undercounting of firearm deaths due to assault; that is, firearm homicide.
    According to the ABS, there were 260 homicides in Australia in 2010; that is, 1.2 victims per 100,000 population. In 2010, murder accounted for 229 (88%) of the homicide victims recorded. The remaining 31 victims (12%) were victims of manslaughter.
    Location of murders
    Figure 8 Murder location type, 2010 (%)
    Recreational 3% Retail 5%
    Other community 5% Transport 1%
    Street/footpath 14%
    Outbuilding/other residential land 5%
    Other locationa 9%
    Dwelling 58%

    • By far the most common location for murder in 2010 was dwellings (65%), followed by the street/footpath (14%).
    • Conversely, only three percent of murders occurred in each of the following locations—outbuilding/other residential land, retail and ‘other’.
    Source: Reference 1
    Australian crime: Facts & figures 2011 [Note] The population of Australia is only 22,599,256; compared to the US's 311,800,000+ people!!!! Thats 13.7969 times the population of Australia!! How?? can you compare the two, win the two are so different!!

    December 22, 2012 at 1:40 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • JG

      You compare the murder rates for different countries, not be looking at the total number of murders but by looking at the murder rate per 100,000 persons. In 2009 the murder rate in Australia was as you stated 1.2 murders per 100,000 people. In the US the murder rate was 5.0 per 100,000 persons. So the US murder rate is 4 times the Australian murder rate. By looking at the murder rate per 100,000 persons it doesn't matter that the total US population is over 10 times the Australian population. You might ask why the murder rate in the US is so much higher than in Australia. One factor is that the US has nearly one gun for every man, woman and child while Australia has only about 15 guns per 100 persons or a gun ownership level about 7 times less than the US.

      December 22, 2012 at 5:44 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  178. Dyan

    Mr. Morgan should be fired. I don't care how upset or angry he is about what happened a week ago. That has no baring on how he acts. He is rude, he doesn't listen. He thinks he is the only one that is allowed to have an opinion. I am a 47 year old female who lives in South Western Pennsylvania and a NRA card carrying democrat. I own what he is calling a machine gun, an AR-15. I have never seen even a modified one that can be anywhere near a machine gun. I don't have 1,000 rounds of Ammo. I own 1 clip that holds 20 .223 bullets. A 9mm hand gun is semi automatic that can fire as fast as an AR-15. Depending on the clip that it holds. When i bought this weapon in 2011 I had a full background check, as it is mandatory in PA. I also have my right to carry concealed license. Another round of background checks. I am not or never have been a mental patient, I do not have any kind of criminal record nor did I own a gun while my daughters were growing up. They are now 21 and 24. My being a gun owner is only because I bought the gun for my husband as a Christmas Present 1 year ago. He served 4 years in the Army. Carried an M-16 and because he owns a Desert Eagle 50 cal semi automatic hand gun and also a 9mm handgun with also a license to carry concealed, he's as responsible as I am. Mr Morgan just because we own high caliber weapons doesn't mean we plan on using them anytime soon to hurt anyone. We like going to the Range and having a fun afternoon. I also like knowing that if someone breaks into my home after getting through the security system and my 2 guard dogs that sleep at the foot of my bed every night my husband is working Midnight shift, that I have even a 3rd line of defense. Our guns are under lock and key plus fully insured by our insurance company. So before you think all Americans who own these types of weapons are only to do harm, you are severely mistaken. My right as American Citizen allows me to own these weapons of choice. Just because you don't like our laws doesn't mean you get to go on OUR national news and act like a 2 year old. CNN is turning into Fox News. Anderson Cooper is the only one that has treated this story with dignity that it deserves. 20 children were killed by a mad man. I don't care what the report will state. Anyone who walks into a school and kills 26 people in an elementary school is a mad man. I also want to point out that I have a 18 year old Stepson, who is a Senior in High School, He firmly believes that every school including his should have Armed Guards at every exit at every door in all of our schools. He doesn't own a gun nor does he want to, but he does want to know that when he is in school that some nut can't just break a window and gun them down in cold blood. CNN I implore you get Mr. Morgan off the air, he is not fit to fill Larry King's shoes.

    December 22, 2012 at 4:15 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kristina

      "I also like knowing that if someone breaks into my home after getting through the security system and my 2 guard dogs that sleep at the foot of my bed every night my husband is working Midnight shift, that I have even a 3rd line of defense."

      You know what I have as my line of defense? A lock on my front door. That is all I have ever and will ever need. America. this is your insight to the rest of the developed world. How lovely it is not to live my life in fear.

      Now please by all means, carry on with your delusion

      December 23, 2012 at 9:21 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • kirk

      @Dyan "I also like knowing that if someone breaks into my home after getting through the security system and my 2 guard dogs that sleep at the foot of my bed every night my husband is working Midnight shift, that I have even a 3rd line of defense."

      Riiiight. You have a gun so you are Rambo. What you have done is given most people who would break into your house, a weapon of their own after they take it from you and kill you with it. So if someone gives you a scalpel you are surgeon right? If someone hands you a gun you are a soldier. And if you sit behind the yoke of a plane you are a pilot.

      IF you can't defend yourself without a gun, you can't defend yourself with one. The mere possession makes you in danger.

      Gun Defensive uses
      Determine the relative frequency with which guns in the home are used to injure or kill in self-defense, compared with the number of times these weapons are involved in an unintentional injury, suicide attempt, or criminal assault or homicide.
      We reviewed the police, medical examiner, emergency medical service, emergency department, and hospital records of all fatal and nonfatal shootings in three U.S. cities: Memphis, Tennessee; Seattle, Washington; and Galveston, Texas.
      During the study interval (12 months in Memphis, 18 months in Seattle, and Galveston) 626 shootings occurred in or around a residence. This total included 54 unintentional shootings, 118 attempted or completed suicides, and 438 assaults/homicides. Thirteen shootings were legally justifiable or an act of self-defense, including three that involved law enforcement officers acting in the line of duty. For every time a gun in the home was used in a self-defense or legally justifiable shooting, there were four unintentional shootings, seven criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides.
      Guns kept in homes are more likely to be involved in a fatal or nonfatal accidental shooting, criminal assault, or suicide attempt than to be used to injure or kill in self-defense.

      December 23, 2012 at 9:31 am | Report abuse | Reply
  179. failong

    Let the Americans stew in their own is karma, let them slaughter each other, it is better than them continue slaughtering and torturing innocent people the world over, the more they wipe each other out the better for the rest of us.
    My only concern is to keep them out of Africa.
    NO Americans in Africa...go home and do your evil there...thanks...

    December 22, 2012 at 4:29 am | Report abuse | Reply
  180. Reggy de Groot

    I am not a fan of Mr Morgan, but I think it is good he stepped in. I am sick and tired of the many lies that are being told in the US about other countries, whether it is about crime and gun control, health care, euthanasia and abortion or whatever the issue. Americans really should get better informed about the rest of the world and stop listening to people who use so called examples from other countries for their own ends. In many cases they fabricate these so called facts because they know people will not or cannot check whether they are true.

    December 22, 2012 at 5:59 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • JIm

      Americans love spending money on healthcare, about twice as much as any other country in the world per person. And you still die younger than most other first world nations!

      December 22, 2012 at 4:27 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  181. Thomas James

    I am a little sickened by the hate Piers Morgan has been receiving, for trying to help stop further school shootings. What people mistake for arrogance is his disbielief that basic statistics are not being understood: more guns means more gun murders. Which other developed country is having shootings like this with the regularity of recent years? Rather than leading on this issue, America we are falling further behind the rest of the developed world who have all already discovered how to reduce gun murders!

    December 22, 2012 at 6:09 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Dyan

      As soon as this so called ban on the AR-15 started sales have gone up by 33% here in Pennsylvania. So what good will it do to ban them? Piers Morgan should be fired and fired now. No questions asked. He is spewing hate and misinformation nightly. He acts like a 2 year old who doesn't like being told the truth. I don't care what side of the gun issue you are on, the man has no compassion whatsoever for the families of the 26 victims that were murdered by a demented mad man last Friday. He won't stop spewing his name which only gives some other psychopathic killer who probably went to Wal-mart this past week just to get his name on Piers Morgan show nonstop. No we aren't falling further behind, we are dealing with a situation that the Media loves to sink their teeth in and doesn't let go until their isn't any flavor left. I have an 18 year stepson that is a Senior in High School, I asked him what he thought of armed guards in schools, he said and I quote. "We should have them at every entrance and exit and if need to be, one at every classroom door. I wouldn't be afraid to be there because right now we are unprotected from psychopaths who want to make a name for themselves in a blaze of glory." So yes Piers Morgan needs to be fired ASAP just for spewing his hate and misinformation.

      December 22, 2012 at 6:23 am | Report abuse | Reply
  182. Paul M

    So gun freaks don't like their lies called out? Piers Morgan called a liar, a liar. Sounds like good journalism to me. But the NRA freakazoids start crying. Boo hoo. Bunch of big girls blouses. And liars to boot.

    December 22, 2012 at 10:00 am | Report abuse | Reply
  183. Loki

    What exactly is Piers Morgan ? He has to take the award of being the most abusive person ever in the media...and what's more he violates the CNN own rules of discussion..."CNN welcomes a lively and courteous discussion as long as you follow the Rules of Conduct".

    December 22, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  184. Loki

    CNN undertakes tremendous efforts to make being gay a wonderful life choice and human characteristic but fails to recognize the tremendous "public health concern" caused from it. 1.7 million infected people in the USA. Totally dwarfing the gun deaths that Morgan completely dumps on the NRA. Oh...600,000 deaths so far. Hmmm

    December 22, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  185. JIm

    Piers has his opinion because as he states, gun murders are relatively unheard of here in the UK. The reason for this is that not even the police carry guns, let alone citizens and this has been the case for as long as I have been alive. The only place I can remember seeing a real live gun in the UK was at an airport.

    December 22, 2012 at 4:23 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  186. kooolguy

    you know piers is absolutely wrong when he has to resort to yelling and name calling because he has no facts to back up his utter bull$h!+

    December 22, 2012 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  187. Tom Horn

    Thanks Piers for driving up gun sales. My stuff is worth a fortune now. And S&W and Bushmaster also thank you. Nice going CALPERS you sold low and lost a small fortune for your teachers.

    December 22, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  188. bad2worse

    Mr. Interruptus,

    I would have loved to here what your guests had to say, no matter how idiotic or insane. It's your show so you get to do what ever you want. I agree with half of Piers views. But, I have to remind you that the reason we have an armed public is because of Great Britain in the first place. If you like Britain so much, why are you here? Why are you even involved in this discussion? It's none of your business. Piers you little limey kweer!

    December 22, 2012 at 7:59 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kristina

      R.E. bad2worse
      Mr. Interruptus,
      "I would have loved to here what your guests had to say, no matter how idiotic or insane. It's your show so you get to do what ever you want. I agree with half of Piers views. But, I have to remind you that the reason we have an armed public is because of Great Britain in the first place. If you like Britain so much, why are you here? Why are you even involved in this discussion? It's none of your business. Piers you little limey kweer!"

      Haha, one thing I love is that you Americans believe that the name 'limey' offends us, I find it quite sweet and nostalgic actually. No bad2worse, I believe the reason why YOU and your whole county are here is because of Great Britain, but I won't let my self run away with that too much, only that you have the potential to be such a great country and as the root of that GB can be proud that we are your distant descendants, unfortunately though, there are so many things not to be proud of. A lot of you are such lovely people are yet your ethics are so poor. Of course many countries have their problems, but yours are so blindingly obvious that the rest of the developed world are so astounded that you yourselves can't see it.

      GB is not the REASON you have taken such a liking to guns, it is the poor interpretation of your Second Amendment. You all seem to believe that it states that you all have the right to possess guns within your own home, when in fact, that is not what it is saying at all.

      It is everyone else's business because you MAKE it our business, the USA forces it's way into everything whether it is wanted or not, don't be surprised when the rest of the world wants to take an opinion. The one thing that we HAVE all got right it the right to freedom of speech.

      December 23, 2012 at 8:56 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Kristina

        Whoops typo, *that you are our distant descendants.

        December 23, 2012 at 9:35 am | Report abuse |
  189. Danny Hunt

    Newtown, Connecticut : Hurricane Sandy, Sandy Hook Elementary, New Jersey, An Act of Organized Crime and Terror to Advocate Gun Control?

    I did not see much of the news on this issue today, it is a terrible and very emotional issue that is still very recent. - What I did see in one case is that instead of looking or speaking of factors, rage shooting factors, and causes it seemed that the discussion went towards rhetoric, which is linked to abuse, organized crime strategy, discrimination, and advocating a defenseless population.

    "we urge the media and professionals who participate in speculative interviews about the motives of the accused shooter to refrain from misleading comments about autism and other neurodevelopmental disabilities. ... (M)isinformation could easily trigger increased prejudice and misunderstanding."


    1. In Marc Lepine's case the media focused on an Arab Father, while the sociologists, the experts, focused on homelessness. (racial discrimination and prejudice)

    2. In Adam Lanza's case the media focused on Mental Illness, while the experts claim that this was not the cause. (discrimination against the mentally ill and prejudice)


    A well armed population is hard to oppress, and can be scary for oppressors. (Marie Antoinette)

    The stereotypes and abuse are linked to denial, bullying, mobbing, workplace psychological harassment, and criminal harassment networks* aka organized crime. Organized crime is causing these rage shootings, and advocates a defenseless population through stereotypes and rhetoric that is easier to repress and oppress .

    December 22, 2012 at 11:14 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  190. Danny Hunt

    [*] criminal harassment networks, the mob, are linked to I Influence of the Mind and related organized crime acts of terror to advocate a defenseless population.

    "Theory: The mob isolates targeted citizens and tries to hide their attacks or activities, such as pushing targeted victims to homelessness. The targeted citizens may believe or be led to believe, I Influence of the Mind by mobbing or criminal harassment participants that they will become visible, I Ideation, when T Trapped or Cornered by hitting back through terrible crimes or by committing terrible crimes such as a rage shooting or massacres. They do not succeed, any mobbing involved, corruption, or organized crime activity to push the targeted citizen to homelessness is not made visible, only a person that has committed a terrible crime and evil, their crime is used to advocate gun control.

    R Retaliation and Hitting Back, is it possible that the devastation and ongoing hardship that New Jersey is dealing with led to someone inflicting horror and a nightmare on this peaceful location? (Hurricane Sandy, Sandy Hook, New Jersey) -

    Scenarios and illustration examples using rage shooting factors: An act of terror to advocate a defenseless population? Here is an example of the Rage Shooting Factors: I Influence of the Mind: the perpetrator is provoked about the devastation caused by Sandy on New Jersey, that New Jersey and its people are suffering and being ignored, it is now winter and cold, he's the only one that can help them become visible, they need his help, .. , I Ideation: if he commits this terrible crime New Jersey will not be ignored and will become visible, .. , S Strategy: the strategy is part of organized crime using I Influence of the mind and I Ideation, an act of terror towards children that can be used to advocate gun control, .. , Another scenario illustration is linked to R Retaliation, I Influence of the mind: provocation that hurricane Sandy could have been predicted due to climate change, New Jersey is devastated, I Influence of the mind and I Ideation are similar, the perpetrator is led to Hit Back at Sandy Hook Elementary, an act of terror towards children in a peaceful location while New Jersey struggles with hardship and feels neglected, S Strategy: used to advocate a defenseless population to make it more vulnerable to organized crime."


    The pattern is hiding the cause of rage shootings, why?

    "a deranged person" "too many guns" these are rhetoric to advocate gun control but not the cause or explanations for rage shootings. This actually reinforces a stereotype against people with mental illness that is already abused intentionally by organized crime.

    December 22, 2012 at 11:19 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  191. charlotte reading

    The reason Piers was so animated on this point (and to be fair he is not a great interviewer) is down to him sharing the utter incredulity that people in the Uk and Europe have about the gun control debate in the US. Leaving aside hand guns, the potential changes are about restricting access to military style weapons -designed to kill people quickly and easily – and it is staggering that this can even be debatable. In any society we don't have and shoudn't expect total freedom: we cannot throw hand grenades in the street, we cannot drive on the wrong side of the road at high speed and we cannot take things that don't belong to us. Demanding the right to carry incredibly dangerous weapons, especially those that are designed to kill large numbers of people (not for hunting) is clearly, obviously wrong. In this dreadful tragedy, the one moment of hilarity was the pres of the NRA suggesting every school should have an armed guard LOL. Of course mate, how about every football game, every hospital, every amusement park, every beach in fact every time more than ten people gather one should be tooled up? Those poor, poor kids deserve meaningful debate and change.

    December 23, 2012 at 6:32 am | Report abuse | Reply
  192. Mark

    CNN – Please get Piers Morgan under control. He is bullying his guests re gun control and it makes for embarrassing journalism. I am pro gun control, but I want to hear the counter arguments without Piers rude interjections and crying. I see that most of the posts above agree with me and we are ONLY the people who took the time to write on this blog.

    December 23, 2012 at 8:11 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kirk

      I disagree with you WHOLEHEARTEDLY SIr. Piers you keep it up. I do not believe "Mark" is pro gun control. And I'll bet "Mark" has never lived anywhere other than the US. I have lived in the societies that Piers references and he is right. John Lott is a liar and has been spreading pro gun propaganda in the US for years under the guise of "studies" for people who can't do the math. It is time that someone called him a Liar. He is one.

      After the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, the Kuwaitis were armed with AK-47s which had been handed out by the Kuwaiti resistance. For a while their murder rate was on the order of a US murder rate. The Emir ordered the guns turned in and the police collected the guns. Their murder rate plummeted overnight. They now have a European style murder rate instead of the insanity we have in the US.

      "Adult conversation" involves a rational consideration of the facts and THAT has never been the method of John Lott, not now, not here, not ever. The murder rate of the US via a vis its socioeconomic peers is skewed almost off the charts. We have the highest rates of GUN ownership in the industrialized world and the highest rates of gun murder.

      We had 10,000+ people killed by guns last year. China, with 5 times our population had 77. Over a billion people and 77 gun deaths. Explain that in an "Adult conversation." Americans have become dumb.

      Piers, PLEASE keep hammering these childish idiots. Please.

      December 23, 2012 at 8:44 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • David

        Kirk, go live in China.....

        December 23, 2012 at 8:50 am | Report abuse |
      • Kristina

        Kirk, I agree with you 100%, though I do wish that you had mentioned the ammunition that was handed to other countries by the USA for their own benefit.

        The likes of John Lott are the ones that are creating fear among the American people, pushing statistics that aren't true, and he has the cheek to try to dominate and belittle by saying someone else can't do the math because they don't agree with his forged and deceitful statistics.

        December 23, 2012 at 9:05 am | Report abuse |
      • Kirk

        David, I have spent quite a bit of time in China and might even retire there. I'm betting you have not. But I want to think you for proving my previous assertion of about the dumbing down of Americans.

        The Chinese have a saying "what does a frog in a well know of the great sea" They mean you David.

        December 23, 2012 at 9:08 am | Report abuse |
      • kathy

        Kirk, I agree with you.. I want Piers to keep hammering away on this issue and to not give up until we see real change in the form of legislation that removes these high caliber killing machines off our street. Go Piers!

        December 23, 2012 at 9:09 am | Report abuse |
  193. Kristina

    "Look at the background of the piece of filth trying to have our guns taken."

    Are you serious? "Trying to have our guns taken" ?? You all need to wake up!!

    Piers Morgan's background is irrelevant, the point that you should all be looking at is that these people ARE lying about statistics to create fear in you all! The reason why you buy and own guns is through fear that is being created by the media and the likes of the people that are speaking in this interview. I don't own a gun, I don't know anyone who does, in part that is because owning guns in this country is illegal, except by people who have a reason to use them and are specially trained ie. some members of the police etc. but also because I don't feel that I need to, I don't feel deluded that I need to protect myself in this way and I am so grateful that there are so few guns here.

    You're all so wrapped up on how "important" it is to own a gun to "protect" yourselves and your loved ones that your don't see the big picture, your loved ones ARE BEING KILLED by this "necessity". Maybe someone does have to shout over you all proclaiming your love of guns in the hope that maybe just a couple of you will wake the hell up!!! Think of the people you love and think of every innocent child. What you are all doing is JEOPARDIZING their safety.

    On a final note, it's a VERY small person who feels they need to own a weapon of such destruction to feel powerful.

    December 23, 2012 at 8:36 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • kathy

      Kristina.. I agree with you and all you have said. Not all Americans are so close minded.. there is a part of our population that is actually quite ignorant and frankly it's terrifying. I too want our country to wake up.. we have been taken over by the gun industry. I for one appreciate Piers' fierce approach to uncovering the lies that have been all to easily accepted. The fact that he is British.. is of no concern to most of us, it gives him in fact a unique position to view this situation in another context. I appreciate all he is doing..he has a unique platform and he is using in well in my view.

      December 23, 2012 at 9:06 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Kristina

        Hi Kathy, sorry I didn't mean it to come across in a way of "all Americans are close- minded", not my opinion at all and I feel very sorry for those of you who aren't! Not a massive Piers fan, but I can see where he has become frustrated with hearing these same pro gun arguments over and over, I would definitely end up raising my voice too out of sheer anger. Especially after hearing the some people believe gays, abortion, belief in God etc are the causes for the Newtown shootings, complete madness, whatever your opinion on these subjects.

        It seems he is causing a bit of a stir at the very least, glad he is getting the other side of the argument out there.

        December 23, 2012 at 10:47 am | Report abuse |
  194. Lord Toronaga

    And tell that Bloomberg fool to live without his gated apt and special armed guards...and give up all his money. Then we'll talk.

    December 23, 2012 at 10:27 am | Report abuse | Reply
  195. Lord Toronaga

    Amanpour, Morgan and Zakaria.... Foreigners, with no link to a second amendment convention telling us to give up our right to defend ourselves. No Way.

    December 23, 2012 at 10:30 am | Report abuse | Reply
  196. CL

    Hope someone puts shot in Morgans head..Go back to your own country you POS!

    December 23, 2012 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kirk

      Again, the Americans with the shoe size IQs (CL) feel motivated to speak. Did you write POS because you could actually spell the words? Tell you what Brainiac, The Democratic Republic of the Congo allows one to own any type of weapon. Perhaps YOU should consider relocating there? Or perhaps you can find someplace without a civilization so you would fit right in.

      December 23, 2012 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  197. jim

    This is how they talk things out in Britain, I've seen there Parliament in action. They just all yell as loud as they can and don't listen. They deserve to have no guns in Britain, and Piers Morgan needs to go back home.

    December 23, 2012 at 12:43 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kirk

      That's right, they deserve to have a murder rate that's a fifth of the United States'. They deserve to have streets that they can safely walk at night. And conversely, because of people like Jim, United States deserves to have the murder rate it has.

      December 23, 2012 at 12:46 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  198. Lord Toronaga

    Very few Sandy Hook parents are saying no to armed security guards at their schools. CNN tries very hard to find people who say they don't want it. Let's just say the assault weapons ban goes through...which it will not...There still is a long long long time before all the guns are confiscated. During this time there will be plenty of new incidents of school mayhem. If any children die....who will you blame now ? Blame yourselves and then do the noble thing ....

    December 23, 2012 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  199. Lord Toronaga

    Point #2. Are you going to pay all the gun owners for their guns ? You better. Next, how in the world are you ever going to confiscate so many guns ? Never happen. Even if you get 95% of them the remaining will be in the possession of crazies and criminals. You will be very lucky to get 50%. Let's talk about those who will openly rebel and say come get'm. Now what ? More people dying if not worse... Civil war ? Who are you going to send out to get them ? Bill Maher ? Ed Schults ? Racheal Maddow ? Hillary Clinton ? Piers Morgan ? Amanpour ? Zakaria ? HA ! Royt. Maybe Jon Stewart ? They are all talk. They will never put themselves in harms way. They send others...

    December 23, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kirk

      "Very few Sandy Hook parents are saying no to armed security guards at their schools." Absolute nonsense. GARBAGE. You do not speak for the Sandy Hook parents. And I am betting you are also one of the chicken hawks who talk a game but can not play.

      Look at the list of people in your nonsense. Why not put "George Bush, Dick Cheney, or John Boehner?" How about John Kerry or Bob Kerry who, like me, spent time defending this country?

      The argument is not about confiscation but sensible gun controls like EVERY OTHER 1st world country has. Toronaga's BS notwithstanding. Armed guards at schools, right. Do you really think so little of the US that you think we, ALONE, out the industrialized nations need armed guards? So much for the "Greatest country on Earth" nonsense huh?

      Bill Maher ? Ed Schults ? Racheal Maddow ? Hillary Clinton ? Piers Morgan ? Amanpour ? Zakaria ? HA ! Royt. Maybe Jon Stewart Are not the problem. You are Toronaga, and you are the one who is all talk and no sense.

      "if we only had more guns we would be safer" is simply stupid but what does one expect from a society where more people can name the Kardashians than can name their Supreme Court justices. Where we have a tax protest party in the 1st world country with the lowest tax burden. Where people can't see that powertools for killing are not the answer to stop gun deaths.

      December 23, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Mike Hunt

        So name how many parents that had their children murdered and came out against armed schools. Waiting on you "motor pool" hero ...

        December 23, 2012 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kirk

        Firstly slick, It wasn't me who presumed to speak for the parents. And while it certainly is possible that there exist parents whose kids were thusly murdered and whose thinking processes are so flawed that they imagine their children would be safer with another gun introduced into the mix. A "hire-a-security-guard" with a gun (Like the TSA for example). That does not give the slow reasoning parent a right to endanger other kids.

        In every country where there is sensible gun control, the gun murder rate is multiples less than the US. We have had 14 mass shootings since Obama was president. Europe has had one. THey have 1.5 times our population. Most 1st world countries have a small fraction of ours even accounting for differences is population.

        China had a crazy attack a school on the same day as Sandy Hook. He had a knife. He stabbed 20 children, 2 of them several, none died.

        I like the "motor pool" hero comment. It shows where your "service" was centered. Arm chair quarterbacks.

        December 23, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mike Hunt

        Hey Kirk. Guess what ? LT did not come out and speak for anyone. You made the grand assumption. All he said was that very few of the parents came out publicly in support of "no gun protected schools". Says it all doesn't it. Maybe that's a CLUE as to how they really feel. YOU certainly do not speak for them either. Why don't you go talk to them with your liberal pu$$y statistics and then bravely run away. And "motor pool" suits you perfectly. Liberals would rather see 20 kids die than pick up a gun and defend them. THAT'S your mentality.

        December 23, 2012 at 8:08 pm | Report abuse |
  200. Lord Toronaga

    You "talk" to much. I have little kids, served my country, and have no trouble calling out pu$$y liberals to put their toes on the line. Furthermore, I mentioned people who want gun control, but would never get out of the hot tub to actually knock on the door and say hand it over please. Until sniveling liars like yourself can guarantee that all the criminals and crazy mentals have been disarmed I have no reason to hand over my personal safety to soft handed wuss bags...communists. Arm the schools.

    December 23, 2012 at 4:44 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  201. Mike Hunt

    Hey all you folks at CNN. Go talk to the victim's parents and sell them on your "No Security Guards" theory. I think they had enough of your Tributes, Songs and Heart Felt Tears. Maybe they prefer the NRA and their more direct and useful solution to protecting their children. With or without assault rifles America's children are still in danger from maniac killers with genius IQ's. I think they will find a new method to kill people pretty fast. And Wendy Wassermann ... if any children DIE at this point because you kabashed the security guard solution ... your career is finished. You are so stupid it hurts to think about it. That goes for you too CNN. Keep it up and become responsible for the next mass killing.

    December 23, 2012 at 8:19 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  202. Mike Hunt

    I have to add....What makes you "anti security guard" fools think that the next attack won't be something else ? It doesn't have to be an "assault" rifle.... It COULD be something that a security guard could easily thwart. But....that person wasn't there because you are really about hating guns and NOT loving children. It's not about GUNS it's about monsters who are clever and mentally ill.... Oklahoma City was a van bomb.... So keep up the BS about guns and die in an explosion instead ! ... if that makes you happy...

    December 23, 2012 at 8:25 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kirk

      I got a presidential citation for fighting against this type of brainless propaganda in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe before the wall fell. Now we see it repeated here again and again. "Security Guards" "more Guns" "You will be responsible" Mr Hunt might as well be saying "Пролетарии всех стран, соединяйтесь! " If one is already brainwashed I guess this trash sounds sensible. If one is not, it is idiocy. No other industrialized nation needs "Armed security Guards" at their school but MIKE HUNT and the NRA thinks tat Americans are simply so evil that we need them.

      Remember CNN "Passer pour un idiot aux yeux d'un imbécile est une volupté de fin gourmet."

      The NRA has been lobbying for increasing the murder rate in the US for years, they have done a great job. We lead the 1st world in it. The world laughs at us because of people like Mike Hunt.

      From De Standaard (Belgium)
      "De Standaard
      "Die Vehemenz, mit der ein Teil der amerikanischen Bevölkerung am privaten Waffenbesitz festhält, zeigt allerdings, in welch hohem Maße Menschen imstande sind, von einer Wahnidee überzeugt zu bleiben. Die Vernunft spielt im Umgang miteinander eine kleinere Rolle, als wir uns das wünschen. Die feste Überzeugung, recht zu haben, ist sicher ein gutes Gefühl. Aber man erreicht allein damit gar nichts bei jemandem auf der anderen Seite, der nun einmal vom Gegenteil überzeugt ist.“

      ("The vehemence with which a portion of the American population holds on private gun ownership shows, however, to what an extent people are able to remain confident of a delusion. Reason plays a smaller role in dealing with each other than we would wish. The firm conviction that one is right, is certainly a good feeling. But you achieve nothing so when someone on the other side happens to be just as convinced of the opposite." "

      "Voor de meest buitenlandse waarnemers ligt de oplossing van het wapenprobleem in de VS voor de hand. Eerst moet er opnieuw een verbod komen op het bezit van militaire aanvalswapens, die helemaal niet thuishoren in de handen van privépersonen. Een goede federale reglementering, met inbegrip van controles van het verleden van kandidaat-wapenbezitters, de registratie van vuurwapens en beperkingen op het aantal en de aard van de wapens die iemand mag bezitten, zou de Verenigde Staten eindelijk op hetzelfde niveau brengen als andere beschaafde landen. Een kordaat optreden tegen de wetgeving van Amerikaanse staten die het dragen van verborgen wapens in het openbaar toelaten, zou daar ook toe bijdragen."

      (For most foreign observers, the solution of the gun problem in the U.S. is obvious. First, there must be another ban on the possession of military assault weapons, which do not belong in the hands of private individuals. Good federal regulations, including background checks of current gun owners, registration of firearms and restrictions on the number and type of weapons that anyone can possess; Then the United States, finally, can come up to the same level as other civilized countries. Vigorous action against the laws of American states that permit the wearing of concealed weapons in public would also help.)

      December 23, 2012 at 9:23 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Lord Toronaga

        Hmmm. Fascinating. Kirk says we don't need security guards and the world is a safer place without them. Seems like a ridiculous statement in light of just happened in Sandy Hook. I never mentioned assault rifles... Hmmm. I make the point that until things get under control we should protect those that are most helpless first. Like our children.

        Kirk should write those dead kids and their parents a letter telling them that everything is under control and he has all the solutions you will ever need. Please forward to them all your awards and citations. And in CNN style list all your accomplishments and university degrees. That will make them feel "all better" ! And be sure to send them your beautiful speech in several different languages. We are all impressed....Comrade Kirk.

        December 23, 2012 at 10:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • kirk

        Toronaga makes inane comments which are non sequitur. There is nothing about Sandy Hook that implies an Armed Guard would have changed anything. Banks with guards are robbed all the time. Recently the New york police got into a gun battle with a gun man and shot 9 innocent bystanders and we ALL KNOW that "Security Guards" will be better trained than New York city policemen.

        Perhaps you, Toronaga, should write these kids parents and tell them how you carry part of the responsibility for these kids death by propagandizing for the proliferation of killing instrument in our society. Because that would be a damn site more accurate than what you say I should write. Right now there are more than 300 million guns in the hands of people like you. People who have a problem stringing to logical premises together or parsing simple data. People who eschew intelligence as if it were something to disdain. People who buy into the gun brainwashing.

        you prove my point, the US has become dumb. As to me being a Comrade, I'll bet a 100$ that you have never seen a communist nor stepped foot inside a communist country. An another arm chair quarterback, or should I say Walter Mitty?

        December 23, 2012 at 11:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • Lord Toronaga

        The Kirk argument... there has been on occasion some bad or less than perfect results from people trying to stop violence. His solution...just get shot. He suggests that police should not be armed either and they are basically incompetent and unworthy of protecting you. He also suggests that since things never have 100% perfect results we should therefore just give up and take it on the chin.... let it happen because it's inevitable. Fascinating. He also assumes that only his ilk has education and everyone else is just simple fools incapable of rational thinking....and without him and his awards we are all lost and susceptible to "cold war" brainwashing. Once again ... Interesting. You run with that Kirk. I think I will rely on my own "instincts" and have my children live to see another day. We truly enjoy your comment that says we are all dumb and look forward to worshiping you and your greater intellect.

        Oh by the way...I enjoy visiting my farm in Tarnow Poland and having children with a former victim of your beloved communist party. She says hi. Lastly, try not using the ad hominum attack when you are losing the's so liberal of you.

        December 24, 2012 at 1:09 am | Report abuse |
      • righttolive

        Though I don't like people bullying their guests, I stand with KIRK and Piers. Increasing arms and having every citizen armed is RIDICULOUS. Hasn't it been prone time after time that having a gun usually means no added protection but instead makes it more likely other innocent folks (inc. yourself) will be shot? I believe a well-rounded plan should be looked at- Gun control, mental health, but NOT armed security everywhere in our daily lives! and as far as gun RIGHTS- I believe that my right to NOT be shot trumps your right to own guns! and the fact is the fact- FEWER firearms will equal fewer gun deaths!!

        December 24, 2012 at 12:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bent Frank

        the world can go procreate itself! And unless you've only recently arrived – this is America. Speak english you maroon!

        December 24, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kirk

        Mr. Frank, simply because you only speak one language is no reason to try and force people to speak down to your level. I was born here, and I grew up here. My family arrived in the early 17th century. I understand that intelligence is intimidating to many of the "joe 6 pack" types and this is exactly what is wrong witht he US today. It is becoming dumbed down. Kardashianized.

        Du kanst immernoch probieren mich Englisch sprechen zu befehlen aber ich danke Du wurdest nicht sehr erfolgreich. I would tell you where you could educate yourself but on ne fait pas boire un âne qui n'a pas soif.

        December 24, 2012 at 8:46 pm | Report abuse |
  203. Blaine Holzer

    I was pondering how in the world Piers Morgan (and several other CNN "Anchors") could get away with their anti-gun rantings and it finally dawned on me today – Ted Turner (you know, the one who gave a BILLION $ to the UN) is their BOSS. No wonder! They ARE all nuts!

    December 23, 2012 at 10:13 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kirk

      You mean you got confused and thought it was Fox where the boss screens everything for ideology? No this is not Fox.

      I understand how you must be upset in Turner's support for the UN. Since Albert Einstein wrote this: "The United Nations now and world Government eventually must serve one single goal the guarantee of the security, tranquillity, and the welfare of all mankind." it is pretty easy to see how the simpler minds would be opposed to it. Einstein also wrote, "Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds." Blaine proved him right!

      December 23, 2012 at 10:18 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Lord Toronaga

        It's always comforting to hear quotes from one of the people responsible for creating the ultimate assault bomb. Wow. We are all impressed and comforted by trite expressions and liars. I know what you can do !! Bring up Fox News again and the NRA , that should make all your phoney data more reliable.

        December 23, 2012 at 11:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kirk

        Einstein worked on the Atom bomb. WOW, rewriting history are we?

        December 23, 2012 at 11:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • Lord Toronaga

        I do believe he theorized its capabilities. His fellow Jewish compatriots made it a reality. Good job making the world a better and safer place.

        December 24, 2012 at 12:50 am | Report abuse |
      • kirk

        You do believe wrong. Einstein's contribution was a single letter to the President. Like everything else you write, based on incomplete knowledge but that is normal for armchair quarterbacks.

        December 24, 2012 at 8:15 am | Report abuse |
      • Xyphactinus

        Hey Kirk, You better fact check that statement of yours. It doesn't square with Wikipedia et. al.

        December 24, 2012 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
  204. old school

    Get back across the pond you jack wagon – You're not man enough to be an American, shut up!!!!!

    December 24, 2012 at 10:06 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kirk

      I think I miss the logic. Piers, who isn't cowardly enough to NEED a gun to defend himself is "not a man" but the people who are scared to death of simply living and alive with the delusion that the gun will impart them the ability to defend themselves are "a man"? I think you got that backwards, old school.

      OH I see, your SCARED of Piers.

      December 24, 2012 at 11:24 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Xyphactinus

      Anyone who cuts off a guest from stating their view point is a coward. Not to mention rude and uncivilized. Morgan also violates CNN code of conduct. Lemon & O'Brien are frequent violators also.

      December 24, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Kirk

        So taking this idea to its logical extreme, if interviewing Neo Nazis and they want to spew racist hatred one should simply allow them to or one is a "coward"? What John Lott said is untrue. And it has been shown to be untrue many many times. It feels the feeble minded as shown above. It is totally logically contradictory but he should still be allowed to distort this record? Why is it that the cowards who feel the need for gun ownership are so quick to call others a coward? If one is not cowardly, one has no need for a gun unless one lives in violent society.

        Could you show me the CNN "code of conduct" for interview shows or are you confusing the blog Rules of Conduct and assuming it equates to a television program? Try as I might I can't find it.

        As well I would assume you people never ever watch O'Reilly who continually cuts off his guests?

        I do not believe nor do any other rational people believe that allowing someone to state a falsehood in order to propagandize is someone brave. Xyphactinus WANTS to believe John Lott regards if true or not and this is the only reason he resorts to name calling like coward.

        What do you imagine Piers is "afraid" of?

        December 24, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |
  205. Xyphactinus

    I believe that if CNN imposes a code of conduct on the blog boards it also believes that code of conduct extends to everyone...even it's own staff. Why wouldn't it ?
    Concerning the use of the term "coward" it is usually directed at gun owners and the NRA. So when it is redirected at those using it most...people like Piers Morgan..I feel that is fair also. Anytime someone shouts down another...someone who was invited to debate an issue...that is unacceptable conduct. Childish best suits the description of his actions. I find it rather odd that YOU cheer on his behavior since you claim to be an academic and a person of letters. "Roberts Rules of Order" should be honored.
    And lastly labeling people who like guns and the gun defense position as cowards doesn't really make much sense. I didn't realize that our entire military system is based on cowardice...a logical extension of your gun hate position.
    So tell me, how do you feel about Israel and their mass killings of unarmed Palestinians? Right Right Israel has the right to take other people's land and say that they are defending their newly acquired property.
    Lastly, Morgan is afraid of his guests that have a different and defendable point of view. That is why he shouts them down.

    December 24, 2012 at 4:19 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  206. Xyphactinus

    Oh I forgot. What does Bill O'Reilly have to do with Piers Morgan? That's your defense for Morgan being a total psychopath? Someone else does it also ?

    December 24, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  207. David Abineri

    What those who buy into the NRA's solution to the national gun crisis fail to consider is what life will be like in this country within a few short years if their plan is followed.

    If schools are to have a few armed guards to protect the children, then shouldn't malls, movie theaters, stadiums, restaurants, playgrounds, concert halls, ice rinks, swimming pools, practice fields, churches, synagogues, mosques, and anywhere that children and others congregate.

    What will life be like seeing armed guards everywhere you go? How long will it be before a deranged guard, just as in the battlefied, cracks and uses his weapon against those he is protecting. How many innocents will be injured and killed in the 'battles' that will inevitably erupt in these crowded places? Take a look at current gang violence and multiply this many times to begin to see how our way of life, our very society will be changed forever.

    My preference is not to live in a nationwide war zone.

    Let's begin to reverse this dangerous and deadly trend or our future life in this country will rapidly become just a fond memory.

    David Abineri

    December 25, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • righttolive

      Well said DAVID. AGREE 100% but don't forget- we will need those armed guards in gyms (mass shooting in La Mesa 24 Hr. Fitness in 1990s) and hair salons ( shooting in SoCal hair salon last yr.- killed several). OH- and how about all the unsolved drive-by shootings where victims are picked-off one at a time? Having a gun i of your own will likely not help you in those situations, I hate the argument that guns don't kill, people do. It is people with guns and I think we need to cut down on all guns PERIOD! as one person said yesterday- gun manufacturers and owners should have to carry millions of $ of liability insurance. We also need to ban gun shows and not allow people to obtain guns or ammo online. and if you sell or transfer a gun to another person you damn well better report it so that the new owner gets the proper insurance. Sure some criminals and mentally unstable people will still get guns but the fact is if there are fewer guns and they are more difficult to obtain there will simply be fewer gun deaths! I was and NRA member at age 10 and I grew up in a shooting gallery with real 22 caliber rifles. fortunately no one was ever shot. would I ever want to have a family business like that now- HELL NO. It is a different time with more criminals, more crazy folks and less personal responsibility. It is also a different time than when the 2nd amendment was added! Wake up america- we must decrease the number of guns and pass tough laws!

      December 25, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • PD


      I don't agree with the armed guards in every school. However, taking away the guns of those who are law abiding citizens is not the answer either. Besides, if someone really wants to kill someone else they will find a way. In China, where guns are illegal, a school principal loaded a bus with home made explosives and drive it into a group of kids waiting to go to school. Fortunately, the explosives were poorly made and didn't go off. Also in China, a man walked into a school with a knife and injured over 20 kids and an adult. Granted, none of the children were killed but the point is, if someone wants to do harm to others they will find a way. Beginning banning things because they are used to harm people isn't the answer.

      December 26, 2012 at 4:34 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Kirk

        PD, You just proved yourself wrong. The idea is not to eliminate violence, which is impossible but to greatly reduce killings. In the example you just gave every one of the children attacked in China will have a chance for a life after the attack, the 20 killed in Newtown are dead. You could NOT be more wrong.

        Why not let law abiding citizens have hand grenades? Because a great number of gun homicides are committed by people who had never broken any laws prior to their homicide.

        There is simply no sense here. If gun ownership protected people then the US would be the safest country on earth. It is not and gun owners are not safe either.People own guns because they are scared, period and scared people are not the ones I want "protecting" me. Give me real courage over fake metal courage every time.

        December 26, 2012 at 9:21 am | Report abuse |
  208. PD

    I thought PM was going to be a great reporter with serious discussions. Instead he has turned into the same 'reporters' that reside on Fox News. What a shame. PM, you are not there to cut off your guests or to change America (especially given the fact you are not American). Your job is to DISCUSS the topic at hand and a discussion means a cordial exchange of ideas and opinion between two or more people. If I wanted to see an argument between two people I would have turned on Fox News or Jerry Springer.

    PM, you wasted a great opportunity to be someone great.

    December 26, 2012 at 4:28 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kirk

      "What does the Frog in the well know of the great sea?" is a Chinese saying. PD Who do you think you are? Are you really childish enough to believe that a lawful Permanent resident of the US has no right to discuss the problems of society in which they live? Or that your opinion counts more? This is pure bigotry. Piers has the same rights as you do to discuss this. Nationalism is offensive no matter where it rears its ugly head.

      I also disagree that allowing someone like John Lott to pollute the record with falsehoods is a discussion. The one point that could be made is why did CNN invite someone who is a known liar in regards gun statistics? Perhaps because there are no others to "debate."

      December 26, 2012 at 9:49 am | Report abuse | Reply
  209. tabb

    my opinion: no one has hit on the nail head ,the AR type weapons present an image,a human killing image , you don't look at these guns and think about killing a deer or elk, you think of war,we see it on tv in war zones ,we see it in video games,we see it in the hands of swat, its a human killer, its also netting a lot of people a lot of money,part of the reason they don't want to suspend sales,prices are higher than ever ,therefore looks like they are profiting from the Newtown shooting and no way is that right, some one needs to get ugly,the only way something will get done,,give em hell Piers REMEMBER NEWTOWN

    December 26, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • tired of it all

      nobody will listen to piers even if he was right because he comes across like a raving lunatics and people will shut him off. he would do better to listen and let people talk. but he doesn't. nobody trusts any of their statistics. we have so many front orgs that make stats say what they want that nobody believes any of them anymore anyway. wasting our time in fluff. we want real data, not bs that we get from various front orgs or shells anymore.

      December 27, 2012 at 1:21 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • ???

        and why is a british guy jumping up and down shoving his opinion down our throats? why are we supposed to care what he thinks? is he being paid off as a third party thug or something? when did america ever care what british think of us? he can speak for families, but if that's what he is doing, he's coming across more like a lunatic. not helpful. wrong guy. i know they are supposed to get outrage where there isn't enough, but he's making it worse. people will tune out and walk away when they had a chance at making progress.

        December 27, 2012 at 1:27 am | Report abuse |
      • tabb

        piers is dealing with some lunatics,i wouldn't want those folks spouting the bull they were either, also piers comes across as sincerely caring about those people in Newtown,reguardless of where hes from, this isn't about americans, its about mankind

        December 27, 2012 at 1:54 am | Report abuse |
  210. Janet Matthew

    "Why does the NRA feel thaaaat way....must be the MONEY"!!

    December 26, 2012 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  211. Engineer

    The debate is going on again?? This is the finest way to boring me to death.

    December 26, 2012 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  212. DML

    CNN should take this guy off the air.

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    I do believe all the concepts you've presented for your post. They are very convincing and will definitely work. Nonetheless, the posts are too quick for beginners. May you please lengthen them a bit from next time? Thanks for the post.

    December 29, 2012 at 12:53 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • tabb

      I guess we arm all of the firefighters, then what, emt's next, I wonder how much difference it would have made for the firemen to have been armed, and with what, a handgun, this happened so quick ,would they have had time to even draw with all there other equipment and what would a pistol have done against a rifle which was probably at some distance and hidden at that. Then you have armed ,trained policemen that could not stop a man before he could shoot three cops. What is an armed English teacher going to do? And what about the school buses, do we arm all the bus drivers which if a gunman entered the bus the driver would be faced with turning and firing into the midst of numerous kids, you've got to stop the guns from ever reaching a certain point . I don't have the plan to do that but theres got to be a way

      December 29, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  215. em

    ???? says "when did america ever care what british think of us?" Its not just the British Piers speaks for, its the world. The world does not see the US as you imagine- didn't you find that out with 9/11? But then as you say when did America care...... So sad, such an amazing country.

    January 8, 2013 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  216. ShellBway

    Lott said – "Every place, that guns have been banned, murder rates have gone up. You can not point to one place – whether it's Chicago, or whether it's D.C., or whether it's been England, or whether it's been Jamaica..."

    To which Piers replied: "I'm sorry, but that's just a complete lie. It's a complete lie. The gun murder rate in Britain is 35 a year, average. You need to stop repeating a blatant lie, about what happens in other countries. No, you're not going to get away with this. You lied about it the other day. Thirty-five gun murders a year in Britain, eleven to twelve thousand in America. Stop lying, because what you say drives Americans to defend themselves."

    If you'd shut your mouth long enough to LISTEN to what others are saying, you'd quit making a boob of yourself. Mr Lott didn't say more GUN murders. He said more MURDERS. For some reason you seem to be okay with the murdering of people – as long as a gun isn't used.

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