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In the aftermath of the horrific school shooting which cost 20 children their lives, this evening at 9 "Piers Morgan Tonight" continues to push the conversation on gun control, welcoming Dr. Mick North for his unparalleled perspective on firearms, specifically in relation to the murder of young kids.
In 1996, North's five-year-old daughter was among those who perished in the infamous mass school shooting in Dunblane, Scotland. Joining Piers Morgan from overseas, tonight's guest shared statistics that have come since the enacted gun ban following the Dunblane incident:
"Gun crime has been falling in England and Wales every year for the last eight years. In Scotland, it's [at] its lowest level for well over 20 years."
As many pro-gun voices are calling for less regulation, even suggesting firearms might make schools safer, North offers his assessment:
"I just do not understand the logic of that. If they arm the teachers does that mean they also have to provide the teachers with body armor?" he asked, seemingly rhetorically. "I understand the intruder on Friday had body armor to protect himself from being shot at. Do the children have to have body armor? How far do we have to go? The idea that because the problem is guns, the answer is guns, is simply ridiculous. I think it reflects more that some people take every opportunity to expand the gun trade."
Watch the clip, and listen to the interview, as North further explains his stance on American gun legislation, having been instrumental in changing such laws in his home country.
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I just want to say that I, as a Swede, admire Piers Morgan's battle aginst the American gun lobby. Arming the American people is, of course, not the solution of the lifes the violence between them takes. Less arms instead, of course, reduce the lifes this violence takes. The violence itself can't be avoided, but just the consequences of it. Bullets that penetrate bodies are made of metals. The idea itself to produce metal bullets that penetrate bodies ought to be banned. How can we come up with the idea that bullets that penetrate bodies solve any problem? Don't they just catch us in the evil spiral that more bullets solve the increasing problem?
How can a piece of Garbage like this guy take over on an American Show for Larry King? It's like
a French guy who never saw an American Footballl game fill in for John Madden and do the Color for
Monday Night Football.
nailed it Fred....
+ 1 Fred!
Fred, You got it right man! Piece of garbage, lets deport ole Pierce and bring back Larry King. At least Larry treated his guests with respect!
Piers Morgan cares more about American lives that you. He cares. All you care about are your guns. People do not matter whether or not they live or die. Shame, shame on all gun lovers. If a six year old child means nothing to you, and if you love killing humans, please put you gun to your head and FIRE. You are all a bunch of SICOS.
U R Right Fred.
P Morgan & CNN lefties live in gated posh areas and have no idea that most US urban areas are rife with 3rd world level poverty & violence and most of rural USA is third world level poverty zone. Civalized countries (like most of western Europe) have good social programs, health care, education and civilized levels of Policing. Facists don't like paying taxes and having "programs" . The USA is a third world county for all but an elite right wing. For God's sake Peirs Morgan, these people must be armed to protect themselves from the American "Deam" that's turned into their nightmare. Wake Up CNN
I wonder why we have heard little to nothing in our media about the armed bystander in OR who helped stop the mall shooter or the armed person in the theater in TX who stopped the guy this week?
All the media seems to want to do is focus on gun control, without telling the other side of the story when it comes to civilians stopping mad men because they themselves were "packing".
We have all sorts of gun laws on the books, just as we have laws about illegal immigrants. Perhaps it's time the governenment start enforcing the laws already on the books, and judges stop letting people with gun violations off easily simply because of their color.
the reason we haven't heard about those incidents widely reported in the media is because 1) the Oregon mall shooter did kill 2 people and the man who 'confronted' that shooter didn't shoot that man and it's not even clear that the shooter even saw him. The way the shooter was described as hitting his gun, he probably was distracted and having trouble with it. I bet he probably shot himself accidentally. 2) The TX theater shooter was stopped by an off-duty deputy. Which is great and all but not the same as an untrained citizen doing it.
You need to keep Mr Morgan away from ALL GUN events. I can understand his views, and emotion but, I have never seen anything so rude as his town hall special the other night. Not only was he rude, he proved he was misinformed as to the facts involved. The solution to protect the students is simple, only 3 steps are required..
#1. Just employ an off duty Police officer at every school. This would be less than 1/10 of their budget. They spend more than this doing locker searches for dope today.
#2. Then offer free handgun training for the teachers that would like it. Your problem of a gun free zone where the unarmed become an easy target goes away. These mental teenagers would go elsewhere.rather than be confronted.
#3. Have controlled access inside the school buildings, you must be authorized or a teacher, or student to enter!
Consider this: Even if all the guns were removed, and the public becomes helpless, all it takes is 6 bottles full of gas, a rag and lighter to burn hundreds of students in a class room. Who want to see burned children? Will Obama ban gasoline?
I agree ... Piers has shown nothing but arrogance and total disrespect (rude) to anyone who does not agree with him. Surely the"host" of the show should not be doing all the talking.... I find that he just continues to interrupt and "speak over" his "guests.
Pierce is the only reporter with a pair of balls to stand up and say what needs to be said. Not like the NRA's President, Vice President and other defenders of the NRA who think the solution is more guns in schools.
Awww hell let's just arm all students! Level the playing field and issue everyone in the country a gun....then no more excuses for the NRA
I applaud Piers Morgan for standing up for the lives of Americans. I also appreciate what Mick North said " Right to life is much more important than the right to bear arms. God Bless America !!!!
This guy should take a real look at the country he is living in. First, he should visit the many places where you dont dare go out at night or leave your door unlocked if you want to live. We have to lock the door and be ready for a invasion at any time, what does he know of that. As for guns do something right, make the owner of guns be responsible for that gun, and if not the woner would be charged with the same crime that the gun was used for. In every case the guns were bought by someone else and let the shooter have access to the gun, that must stop. Stop private sales of guns, they have to go through a dealer or not at all. we have a shooting every day here in cairo il and if your not armed you will be robbed or killed, that is just a fact and the hood know that.
I hope you all note as I do that one thing seems always consistant in these types of tragedies around the world- the good guys are always unarmed while the bad guys are fully armed.
America has a great history of an armed populace. It has not only helped to keep us free, but has on two occasions helped to keep European nations free. There are many tragic loss of lives throughout the world. These include starvation due to Al Gore's taking food and turning it into fuel. it also includes Obama's use of drones that indiscrimately kill innocent people including many children. Doctors kill thousands, automobiles kill hundreds of thousands, alcohol and tobacco kill millions, totalitarian governments kill hundreds of millions. All the talk about assault rifles is a smoke screen to prevent people from examining the real issues that society needs to face.
Why not modify all of the existing guns in United States with an INTEGRATED safety combination activation keys (by means of digital or mechanical)? So that nobody can use the guns except the owners themselves, thus making it easier for gun control. This way, we can prevent Sandy Hook incident from taking place ever again and save countless of lives...
If you take guns away from the Americans, they will fight back and argue that it is their right to defend themselves (and the debate goes on for centuries). To get rid of guns in Unites States, you probably need another civil war. But, if you ask the Americans to upgrade or modify their guns for national safety interest, it is very unlikely for the Amerians to disagree on that... Perhaps they will all say yes to this idea... It is very important to get them agree on one thing... You will have the political power (or votes) for that...
My idea is very simple, if we have some sort of a combination passcode keys on your iPhones, should not guns be secured even more? If the price of the guns increase due to this, then it is even better because there are less people buying... And finally it will promote less guns in United States...
Tell me what do you think of this idea? Can this idea be proposed to the US politicians?
If just one firearm trained person teacher, administrator, safety monitor had been armed this would not have gone nearly as far as it did if at all. If you don't believe that you are the fool. Each of your politicians have body guards even in the UK why is that? If the same were true for schools this type of thing would stop in an instant. First the gunman would think twice it happens because they know there are no armed personnel. They know super markets now malls even fast food stops people may be armed very seldom do you see a deranged assassin attempt to attack at places like this.
Agreed! They're "deranged" enough to go to a place where everyones UNARMED and mostly underage! Whens the last time a gun show, a police station or any other ARMED place has been shot-up?? Very few and far between.
The fact is evil people with guns kill people. It has 2 parts: evil people and weapons. so let's address both of them. On evil people part, we need to support and label the mental crazy people and on weapons we have to remove assault rifles and large magazines from civilian. I am not against guns. Hand guns for self-defense should be allowed but no need for high power assault rifles. This is not against 2nd Amendment because you can use hand guns for self-defense. 2Amendment didn't say you can have any type of weapons you want. Let's not go to extremes in either sides. The common ground is : hand guns allowed, but no assault rifles.
Wow, First off, to alot of you, welcome to America. Second, We built this nation with guns, We are a culture that loves the wild west. Thats why we dont live in any other country, most of those nations dont have much say in anything that goes on in there country. We on the other hand have power, We love our guns, and are willing to defend our lands from any and all who seek to infringe. If I remember correctly, we beat Englands ass twise, to gain our freedom. Probably why Piers Morgan has a hard on for gun control, other than trying to get popular on tv. To me CNN has lost all credibility with this issue. If you dont like it here Piers? go back to what ever hole you came from?
Guns provide the capabilty to massacre humans with willful intent, what more is there to say? It is shameful of the NRA to proliferate and advocate gun ownership by average citizens, especially automatic assault rifles. Military and police were created to protect society and civilized life. Although no system is perfect, arming everday citizens with guns should make any sane person scared out of their pants – not only do we need to worry about criminals as is, but now the next door neighbor that decides to get trigger happy and blow off your face in the name of self defense.
Self defense should not place the general public at greater risk of danger. If these gun activists believe that the teachers should have been armed to prevent the tragedy in Connecticut, what kind of paranoid society are these people experiencing to think our day to day lives are in far greater danger in a gun free community?
We do not live in the Middle East. The lives in that Connecticut town were not in constant threat. Face it, crime does exist, worse in some places than others of course. Danger is inherent in our daily lives and people die for any number of reasons at the hands of others. More guns is not the solution and will only perpetuate a more violent society. Let's agree to make meaningful changes to control and minimize anyone's ability to kill with willful intent.
Where was the police when the gunman entered Sandy Hooks? Where will the police be when someone encounters you in a parking lot when getting into your vehicle? Where will they be when someone breaks into your home?
Oh My God! Please tell me that overweight, straw hat wearing Hee Haw wanna be is part of some weird publicity stunt. REALLY! Arm our teachers, nurses, clergy and give our principles ar15's. What an idiot, duhh I think others with even the basic of intelligence can for see that disaster. After watching a show earlier today about buying your kids bullet proof backpacks and bullet proof blankets/sleep mats, this idiot comes on and spouts this garbage. Piers I think it's time you shared your nerve prescription because I couldn't have sat in my chair let alone not strangled that man. As it is I’m going to be stewing on this for years. My only comfort is to pretend that man is completely stuck on stupid to the point he should get social security and or has a brain tumor. Not for nothing there are a few things I haven’t heard folks talk about. Number one being the right to bear arms should not supersede the right of masses to be safe. Our leaders today and many years prior have been trying to disarm many countries from nuclear weapons. Why the hell should there be a difference of opinion as to what that mass amount is. Who in the hell gets to decide what an acceptable loss amount limit is? In my life time I have seen time and time again tragedies involving guns nothing has been done about it. Ar15's or any other type guns should stay within our military; they have no place in the private citizen household (no one could ever make me believe otherwise) and have no practical use other than killing lots of people really fast. That's why we have a military and should there ever come a time when the average person or household needed such a weapon; one would think our OVERRUN MILITARY (if such a thing is even possible) would be giving them out like cookies. Another thing I haven't heard (which I feel to be the ultimate rebuttal for gun enthusiasts) is not only ban or recall such high powered weapons but have a mandatory gun tracker system for all guns. Not for nothing, if my adopted dog can be implanted with a gps tracking system, my phone, kid safety locater devices and my Grammy and gramps can call for help using a single push button monitor service for help. Why can't guns? The weapons themselves could require a finger print, code or the like in order to fire. I know it's possible to even disarm with some other type of electronic service (hey OnStar’s got it going on they can shut down vehicles for police and tell them exactly where the vehicle is). This should be a mandatory feature for guns, laws for distance to certain areas can be enforced a 100% better, by allowing service centers to notify law enforcement right away. Sensors can be placed in traffic lights to make police response time quicker. Public areas where no guns are permitted can even have an emergency device and service that disarms, shuts down, etc. making massive gun tragedies a thing of the past. While mental health does play a role in these horrific tragedies we need to be honest with ourselves. There is no sure fire way to predict who's going to snap one day or who's already mentally challenged. To even suggest such things and try to tackle this gun issue from that angle would be like paddling a boat to the moon (ludicrous). However requiring yearly evaluations on citizens to monitor mental health, renew gun licenses, and require additional refresher gun safety courses should be a no brainer. Another and most important thing I believe (whole heartedly) is not to just have some super secure gun lock (needing finger print code or something) But a device in the home, business, vehicle, or area that monitors where the gun is and if it should be where it is, also if it should be armed or disarmed. Folks want their guns, fine I myself would like to have one in my home, and many homes should have one for their family’s safety. However should the gun leave the home and or be somewhere it is not permitted by law. The gun owner and local police can be notified immediately allowing for the most optimal of response times in an effort to save as many lives as possible. Those who disagree I implore you to look in the mirror and ask yourself what is the difference between 2 lives lost verses a million lives lost. Creating a tracking system would create jobs, empower gun safety and serve as a constant reminder about the moral responsibilities for all gun owners as well as future owners. Who will pay for such a system? If chemical, pharmaceutical, vehicle and a million other manufactures and companies can be held responsible for their products misuse, why can't gun manufacturer's? I say they must have a tracking system in place if they want to sell weapons to Americans and if people want guns so bad they can adhere to the masses safety requirements or go without. I know this idea could take some time to even be thought about much or even acted upon. But I feel it's a damn good start, people get there guns, the masses get they're safety (win win).In closing I’d just like to say, this king of the mountain, My culture, people and gods are better than yours mentality needs to go as well. One of the main reasons countries and its people are so dangerously armed to the teeth over is the common knowledge of disaster. The devastation of Armageddon type massive deaths that tips the scales on power because of population loss. Many keep nuclear, chemical etc. weapons to still stay on top and in control out of fear that their race, culture, beliefs etc. would vanish into myth. Others see it as an opportunity to purge the world of what they feel is bad and have it remade in their image. Call me crazy but who’s to say this very thing hasn’t happened in the past. Some country with power or influence over all falling victim to natural disaster and some other country for whatever reason slaps them with another blow, inheriting the earth to do what they will. No one should have the power to do that or be able to mass murder, no one has the right to claim anyone person or race unfit. I realize it is in our very nature to combat one another primitively on a race, belief and culture level for control over food, water, resources and land. Hell just about every species on the planet does. But turf wars of this magnitude involving weapons that could kill so many at once are seen in no other creature known to man other than man.
Sincerely Hoping For Change and Suffering from The Thoughts of Such a Horrific Tragedy,
Tianna Love Riddle
Green Cove Springs, Florida
P.S. Please invite that Hee Haw wanna be to a public debate on Jerry Springer, I need to vent some fury.
I find it amusing that the "enlightened" members of society are sooooo enlightened that they feel no need to further broaden their horizons, such as actually watching an NRA speech... or, perhaps, reading the reports that about 20% of our nation's schools ALREADY have armed guards/police, especially in those gun-free cities like Detriot, Washington D.C., Philadelphia, Chicago, and Miami where the criminals go to states next-door to buy their guns, but, mysteriously return to their home cesspools to commit their crimes. ALSO, while gun-perpetrated crime is falling in the British Isles, VIOLENT CRIME is 5X that of the US... hunh ??? Crimes committed while the buildings are occupied have gone UP.
Before you spout your b/s... you might learn what the hell you are talking about!
Next time one of your guests representing the gun lobby inists that arming teacjers and others is a way out of this horrible mess, why don't you ask them to publically announce (in real time, live tv) the next date their grandchildren will be going to the movies with friends and thereafter, have them "reach out to America" and ask that everyone who has similiar plans bring their guns with them.
Wonder how much popcorn they would sell?
Ok guys you’re getting off the subject with your bantering’s of rights. The time for debating the right to bear arms ending more than 200 years ago is over. However the right to bear massively destructive weapons that military should have is a no brainer. Weapons with the ability to kill lots of people within seconds should not be in the public’s hands. I feel it is grossly negligent and hugely irresponsible of our government, elected officials and who ever in the hell else that makes these (gun laws) that they basically left these weapons out on the table and in reach of the public to misuse and abuse their fellow Americans. Responsibility, morality, compassion and common sense are desperately needed NOW! These types of weapons should be recalled immediately before anything or anyone else has a chance to misuse them again. Furthermore any and all other guns citizens have must be harnessed with some type of tracking device and constantly monitored by services to ensure a safer environment (especially our children). Anyone American claiming to be an American and care at all about their country must support this or their just simply not an American. Knowing where all these weapons are, being able to shut some down remotely when needed in some areas (such as schools, malls, sports events, CHURCH) and having stricter laws for police to enforce in public areas would change the United States over night. You want guns, we want safe, I say tracking system, no military guns, stricter laws for police. This is the responsible and most respectful way to ensure the safety of Americans while still adhering to the personal right to bear arms to defend.
Well said. Thank you for your post.
LOL at the pro-gun "macho poser" anti-anybody-not-from-the-US, bigoted cowboy comments. If the world knows & agrees on just one thing it's this: Americans...are...not...very...bright.
Hey, f-u-c-k you.
HERE'S A GOOD REASON TO ADMIRE PIERS MORGAN'S OBJECTIVE AND THOROUGH NEWS REPORTING:
"Some experts believe" he was also part of the illegal wiretapping fiasco.
The NRA claim 4,000,000 members. There are 150,000,000 registered voters in the United States. They're less than a 2.7% minority. Big bark from such a small dog.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your reaction to the shooting at Newtown, Conn. I am 80 years old and can tell you that the young survivors of the recent shooting of innocent children and their teachers is a horror they will never forget.As a young 5 year old I still remember the horrible day my mother and two sisters and I ran and ran and ran to escape my father, an alcoholic armed with a rifle was threatening to shoot us. I can honestly not remember how we got away. I only remember running and hiding. God bless those young survivors and thank you for speaking out so firmly
Piers does not care about your children. He is out for ratings. Plain and simple. He won't send armed guards at his building home but he doesn't like them at schools to protect children. He won't give up his car that will do 160mph. Will he give up drinking? He is the meaning of hypocrisy. Ratings is his game and that is all he cares about. Scores of children die everyday from car accidents, child abuse, disease, starvation, dehydration, casual abortions, drunk drivers, fast cars, etc. and on and on. If he cared so much he would spend every minute of every show advocating for these dying children. He cares about his own car that does twice the speed limit, his own body guards the carry weapons and protects him, his own money that he saves by using deductions, etc and on and on. He is a pathetic excuse for a human being. Walk in the shoes of someone that spends their entire life fighting for the protection of children. He supports Obama like it was his own child. Does Piers drive a chevy Volt? Does he have his house covered in solar panels? Does he pass on deductions to give the government more money? Does he do anything that doesn't involve boosting his ratings? He is a pathetic excuse for a human being. Speaks out for one thing but does another. He is the height of hypocrisy.
The issue is not cars, trains, planes, dogs, camels, aardvarks or eels, nor the phase of the moon.
Twenty children were murdered. That is where it begins and ends. What can be done about it?
Piers was very rude to his pro gun rights guests last night, yelling at one of them and being very dismissive. The author of " more guns less crime" ( written by a University of Chicago and Yale researcher, who was on the show) has some well supported points to make. Gun control policies don't really do much to reduce crime if at all. CHicago has very strict gun laws but 40-50 people die each month, more than 500 per year.
Look MR Lott you are only an expert at trying to explode the number of guns in America. 71000 criminals in 2009 lied on background checks to get guns and who knows how many got guns via private sales. All this is for you and you ilk is selling guns based on marketing FEAR in America exploiting the Deaths of grade school children. This mythology that citizens armed would stop gun violence is stupid. Between this tragedy less then sevens ago there have been Six police officers killed in the line of service via guns. This equals the adults killed at Sandy Hook . The UK in comparison had two deaths of unarmed policemen the other day and those deaths are the first in many years . The total number of police murdered by gun in the Uk in the last decade is 5. The total in the same period of time in America 544 according to the FBI. Gun control works and in one sector of American in which not a gun death has occured for 1.5 million people daily since the 1970s. It is called the Airllne industry which banded guns in the 1970s on domestic flight and thus ended hi jacking. The NRA is so insistent on the spread of guns that they challenge Amtraks band on guns .
What you FAIL to say is the murder rate is the UK has gone up despite banning guns. Criminals are using other methods to kill people, Right? So banning guns did nothing to prevent killing in the UK and more people today are being killed than when guns were legal to own!
If Peirs and all you British loud mouths would shut up for a brief moment we lawful gun owners could make this point.
The statistics show that your gun ban is not working to prevent murder in your Country. Now dispute those FACTS
The Airline Industry is immune to Highjacking, Paul? I guess the 3,000 folks who died at the hands of 19 goons armed with box cutters would disagree with you.....if they could.
Elliot you're completely wrong. The national statistics for the uk released autumn this year clearly states that the murder rates for England and Wales have hit a 30 year low as a percentage of population. Most crimein the uk has broadly flatlined. Only a 2% increase in petty crime like pick pocketing has been seen. These come from the independent office for national statistics .
Yes, you could murder someone with a knife, but that as an excuse to lift gun regulations in our country is ridiculous. You could kill 40 people with an automatic gun very quickly without being tackled. You couldn't with a knife.
You think because people don't share your view on guns that they are wrong . But not one single person on here has yet to put forward a coherent answer other than gun regulation.
People quote the right to bare arms. What about the right not to but at the same time not have your children shot dead at school?
Your laws covering the right to bare arms were written in a time when automatic weapons were not yet invented. Unfortunately you did not legislate as time progressed and weapons developed to prevent these tradgedies.
What need does anyone have to own these kind of automatic weapons used in these mass shootings? The idea was to protect yourself and property. Military style weapons are appropriate. You may have the right but is their honestly a need.
Most of the people killed in Chicago in gun violence are criminals or drug dealers, not very many innocent people killed in Chicago streets. Drug dealers killing among themselves is totally different from a mass murder where 20 innocent 1srt graders and their teachers were killed !!! I have little sympathy for those criminals killed in street violence in Chicago or Oakland, but these evil mass murder of innocent people have to stop !!!
Keep up the good work Piers. John Lott and his inability to spell out what an AR 15 AKA Bushmaster 223 does was telling. This man and his ilk wish for one thing MORE GUNS . Arming about 7 million teachers has huge problems. Pier you just stated on the situation room that 3 million people in America have mental health issues. That represented a little less then one percent of the population. If you apply that to 7 million teachers we are going to have about 60000 of those that may snap in a Classroom because of some event in their lives and then who protects the children in the classroom. I can hear John Lott then saying we have to arm all the students. This man I must question his sanity . The studies he has done beyond guns are incredibly telling.
yet another CNN staffer posing as a Piers fan...pathetic. this loudmouth needs to go back to judging singers and such.
I think it's time for us Americans to stop being politically incorrect and call a spade a spade! The society is incredibly polite and they sugar coat their opinions while there's anger bubbling underneath; anger that makes them pick up a gun and kill innocent people. All because they have issues; unresolved issues that cannot be addressed in our politically correct society. "It's rude to yell; to speak your mind; to call an idiot an idiot!" Well dears, here comes Piers Morgan! My hero! Gutsy enough to speak his mind! His show replaced Larry King live; he did not replace Larry K! Why must he try to be anything like Larry King? Stop this comparison... Different anchors, different shows! Great work Mr. Morgan!
–"one way or another– that any debate on gun control has to include a fix of our broken mental health care system. I said that people with mental illness are not more violent than the rest of the population, but our fragmented system that permits our most vulnerable citizens to become isolated and disconnected from those of us who would help them, plays a major role in the violence discussed "
Mental Instantution must be re-opin.
Peirs and CNN are making these debated one sided. It is outrageous!
How about having a guest like Superintendent David Thweatt,that has implemented allowing trained teachers to protect the school? These solutions work unlike the idea make the school GUN FREE a thus making the kids sitting duck for monsters.
It's outrageous these anti gun liberals are spouting off saying this will not work when it clearly does. We have 20 innocent children dead as proof that a unarmed school did not work. I do not think one of those teachers give the chance would not have protected those kids with any means available.
CNN and Peirs tailor make this programs to make them one sided to push the Anti Gun movement with no facts or statistics to back up thier claims. When challenged with facts they yell at the opposition to their beliefs and take the mic away.
How about Elliot CNN takes off the gloves any exercises its freedom of the press rights . If I was the parent of one of these dead children the pro gun people would have to crawl under the rock their first appeared from . I would go to a Mike Bloomberg and deliver the gruesome pictures of my child murdered with these weapons you childishly desire to collect like beanie babies. I would instruct Mr Bloomberg to then place those picture on every Billboard that could be rented in America. You think anything would stop the citizens of America from rising up against the real tyranny named the pro gun lobby ?
Paul go to Youtube and search for Susan Gratia. Then come back and comment.
And when, and its only a matter of time, a teacher snaps and uses the gun in an act of slaughter will the answer be to arm the students?
That is the most pathetic argument I have heard. Couldn't the teacher kill the whole classroom with a pair of scissors?
You trust your kids everyday with a teacher that you fear will kill them? Are you saying parents should have feared these teachers that took bullets shielding these little children. Talk about paranoia! Maybe we should take guns away from the police like in the UK too. Is this the reason they do it? They are afraid their cops will kill them? OMG
I am not a gun owner, nor a teacher. I am, however a parent, and think we need to seriously consider having ONE person within school walls who has rigorous training to be a first responder to protect our children. The fact that these defenseless children and heroic teachers huddled in corners and closets, only to be sitting ducks for a madman makes my heart break. He knew no one would be armed. Perhaps the knowledge of knowing one person on that premise has access to firepower (maybe under lock and key and not on their person) to stop a violent act may cause pause for consideration. Think of discussing that issue, Mr. Morgan. And keep your discussion points in perspective Sir. We as Americans are reasonable people, and would appreciate it if you do not treat us as silly gun-toting morons.
Elliot, you made a statement, writing: "The statistics show that your gun ban is not working to prevent murder in your Country. Now dispute those FACTS"
What are your facts to support your assertion that the gun ban isn't working. Please cite your cases so we can verify.
Insanity is rampant in the US.
The problem with insane people is they have no idea they are abnormal. The US is a fundamentalist Christian country. Like all fundamentalists of other religions, they cannot recognize their insanity.
I have been reading and watching the debate on gun control. Every time a pro gun person speaks, I just shake in fear. Their logic is completely illogical. The sad part is this is a political issue because most members of one party, Republicans and a minority of Democrats support the current gun laws and in addition the arming of more civilians.
The collapse of the USA cannot be far behind.
The USA is the most violent country among the developed nations. They are the only country without strict gun laws. They are the only country with Capital Punishment. Believers in guns want Capital Punishment.
Clarence Darrow said during the Leob/Leopold Trial the following:
"“Do I need to argue to your Honour that cruelty only breeds cruelty?–that hatred only causes hatred; that if there is any way to soften this human heart which is hard enough at its best, if there is any way to kill evil and hatred and all that goes with it, it is not through evil and hatred and cruelty; it is through charity, and love and understanding.”
Wake up America...PLEASE before we crumble into chaos.
Piers, you are a Moron
have you done ANY research on this issue?
Why does Switzerland, with a very high gun per capita rate has a very low murder rate?
it is not the gun, it is the mentality
and when you look at the number of guns in the UK, it is no wonder more are killed with bombs than guns.
Canada has gun control with 7 million people owning guns or about 22 percent of the population. The only mass shooting of this scale was a university in Montreal having 14 Women killed and 15 injured. No one in Canada desires Assault weapons and the annual deaths by guns is about 500 annually for a population of 35 million. About 45 percent of Americans own guns with 9000 to 12000 deaths annually due to Homicide alone for a population of 315 million. 40 to 70 law enforcement officers in America are killed by criminals with guns including six in the last five days since Newtown. By every measure America is the most violence cultures in the so called civilized world .
Canada has no 1st amendment or free speech, Feinstien and Schumer may have carry permits, though they won't admit it. and Alcohol is the number one killer of 16 -24 year olds, That is alcohol and automobiles. 500 people die each weed from drunk driving.
While America might be one of the most violent countries in the civilized world, it is closely followed on the statistics table by Britain, where most guns have been banned!
What you say about Canada is also not entirely true. At least this Canadian interviewer is polite enough to let John Lott make his point. You would think given Lott's distinguished academic background that Piers Morgan, who has no university education, would at least show this man some respect. To not do so, is extremely arrogant, and the sign of a complete ignoramus.
Piers has some of the concept right, but we as Americans need to arm ourselves. It is unfortunate that some mentally Ill individuals choose to hurt people. The Government should have enacted laws eons ago concerning buyers being able to get guns at the shows without mental & criminal checks. If you take away weapons and limit the amount of rounds they can hold only the criminals will have high capacity clips. Those crime oriented individuals or groups have NO problem breaking the law and they will be the only ones with the guns. If teachers are able to have them then the odds are that criminals will NOT try to enter the schools. Most malls do not allow weapons on the premise either, this is a grave mistake as the criminals love it. It's like shooting fish in a barrel shot gun style. I agree with law revamping mental health and licensing laws but criminals are going to have access to all those weapons that they are considering making illegal.
Correct me if I wrong but haven' t we made changes to the first amendment, so why can't we do the same to the second amendment?
You will never be able to stop the crazies but you certainly can make it tougher, If the schools are looked down each day, why not have the windows alarmed with sensors for the first responders to get called immediately. Coul;d save a number of lives
As with most Americans I cried and have been sick over the entire Sandy Hook slaughter.
I am also sickeing by the NRA's response for more guns in the school. Let not forget NYC when you had trained cops shooting and hitting innocient victims.
Also, let's not forget that these same guys that are calling for more guns in the schools are the same guys calling for a smaller government,.
Maybe we should start a petional to deport all NRA memebers! You'll see try'll free change by politicians no longered controlled by the NRA. I have more thoughts about deporting people including Norquiste
These tragedies have two more faces besides the mental health and guns. One, the industry of fear, this one is even more potent than the nra and weapons indurtry. Americans live historicaly under fear, is fear of every thing, from kiler bees to mad caw to communism to chicken flu, post Vietnan, Water Gate, 9/11 and now, the answer to this tragedy is to run by more guns. Its just pathetic. This is a billionnair industry, lots of unscrupulous business make fortunes exploiting the fears of people.
The other face is of sensationalizing of the midia. Just look, listen, watch to any broacasting of just about any event. You can name, CNN, Fox, ABC,NBC, etc. From time to time insane criminals will copy cat tragedies as this one and the one before and the one...
Solution for fear? I don't see any, this is ingrained in our culture and the industry is very good in exployting it.
The other face, moderation, responsability in delivering the news. These 24/7 news midia have a big impact in our society, for good and for bad. Think about these.
We have to stop giving this idiot attention. He is a made up television character. He is a left wing version of Morton Downey jr., don't be surprised if he comes out of a airport bathroom with a backwords swastika drawn on his face claiming the N.R.A attacked him.
He would have to fake it because Peirs armed bodyguards would would never let that happen.
I find it interesting that Piers left England and came to American and then works to change America society because he does not like firearms. If you don't like the way we do things here, go back. No one is stopping you. Of course he does not wish to go back because of the rising violent crimes to the unarmed sheep. Most Americans don't have a well protected Ivory Tower and a batch of security guards to feel safe with. Sometimes we have to protect ourselves.
Google if anyone wants to. May 4 2004 BBC news " Daily Mirror editor Piers Morgan has been sacked after the newspaper conceded photos of the British abusing the Iraqi were fake".
Do all these dual citizens like Morgan, Feinstien ans Schumer really have America's best interest in mind 24/7 365 days a week. I just don't believe in dual citizenships for those who shape and implement American policy.
There's hope yet that Morgan might get implicated in the British tabloid phone hacking scandal.
Piers if you read please take note of the fact that as a journalist you are not doing a very good job, simply because a journalists job is present the facts without bias. You on the other hand only present your opinion and refuse to listen to anyone elses. Let me make this clear to you, no one cares about a journalists opinion, simply because you have absolutely no credibility, are you an expert? a scholar on the matter? no, your opinion is driven by those that sign your pay checks. So please, do people a favor and stop spouting your insignificant opinion all over the place and perhaps, perhaps, you might at least be doing your job properly. And also good luck with those charges back at home, in the interest of privacy I will not name them, but I think you know what I am referring to.
Kind regards, Some one who understand the world much better than you do
Mr Morgan we need good family therapists. Parents can not get help for there adult child who are suffering from bipolar and mental health illness. Therapist need full family support but what they do is tell the disturb person to break contact with family. Breaking contact is not treatment. All parents are not bad or wicked. Putting young adults on Prozac is not the answer. Isolating family contact is suffocating the root of the problem.
His agenda has nothing to do with opening the eyes of America that we need to publicly fund ways to deal with the mentally ill in this country. His agenda is to convince lawful America to ban guns so they can not protect themselves. I appreciate your post because dealing with mental illness and protecting our children should be #1 on the demands of America.
Pierce, I'm a Canadian and have been following the horrible unthinkable murders in Newtown. We have 3 children. We are stunned by this and the crazy USA gun laws. I remember being in Florida last April and seeing Guns in the Walmart. I remember thinking ...how awful. The power in stoping gun sales lies with the American people. Expose all retailers selling guns and encourage the American people to stop any and all shopping at those retailers. Walmart is in Canada and until they pull all guns from their stores Worldwide I will never step through a Walmart door again. Money talks...get the retailers exposed and the people behind a boycot. Keep on the story please until there is sustainable change. This is not acceptable. The USA is one of the greatest countries in the world and civilized countries cannot live this way. We ache for the families and will do our part by checking all stores we shop at and if they sell guns, we will STOP SHOPPING IN GUN STORES disguised as a family friendly retailer. Does Amazon sell gun?
What you need to do is stop shopping in the U.S.A.. They sell weapons on a huge scale all over the world. domestically their military budget dwarfs all others. They formulate excuses or rebel groups and invade any country at will. They use depleted Uranium munitions like in Fallujah resulting in horrible birth defects and health issues to this day. They are shipping inflation to all the countries pegged to the dollar as well as stealing the wealth of their citizens through inflation. They condone torture, and indefinate detention and execution of their citizens. They love violent moview with lots of guns and action, They play realistic war games all day long and oh yeah I forgot their citizens have stopped using knives and arrows for self defense and instead are using guns. self defense – irrehensible. You need to stop vacationing in bananna republics disguised as a civilized free republic
Good point! I agree, we need to plan our vacations better. There is so much we are ignorant about or turn a blind eve to and it is time for people including us to consider all our choices. Also to teach our Children how and why we make those decisions. I appreciated your comment. The faces of these Newtown victims are the ones we see but they certainly are not the only victims.
Thank piers for continuing your fight for the Sandy Hook children, and basic common sense gun control. You know the NRA makes al lot of money supporting gun sales, whith no regard to what really matters.
Thank piers for continuing your fight for the Sandy Hook children, and basic common sense gun control. You know the NRA makes al lot of money supporting gun sales, whith no regard to what really matters. But people are getting a bit smarter
baaaa....baaaaa/....yet another sheeple.
If your comment was in reply to my comment, I find you amusing, as you have no idea what my back round/profession is.
I am a school counselor. I often work with agitated and violent children. I am 5'2" and 120 pounds. Some 5th graders are larger than me. Most eighth graders are. Until you have had a five year old hurl a desk at you it is difficult to imagine how strong an angry child can be. If I were armed with a gun at school I can only imagine how many times a child would have tried to take it from me. How long until one of them succeeded? What would be the protocol if an angry ten year old took my gun? Would my colleagues begin shooting at him? People suggesting arming teachers are totally out of touch with education, teachers, students, and the mental health crisis facing even the youngest of our youth.
Nobody is proposing giving some fragile women that is already in fear a gun. After what you said you are not very smart for putting yourself in that position in the first place. Sounds like its only a matter of time before you are a victim. Might be important to go you your school board and them you do not feel safe doing you job. Perhaps a trained professional could assist you do you job.
You also do not understand the concept of concealed carry. It might be a eye opener to you but are schools in America that allow trained teachers carry guns to protect the kids. Do you think the kids know who has a gun? Do you think they carry them in the open were they can seen? Geez
Clearly you are the type of person who makes assumptions without information. You are incredibly rude. I absolutely support your right to disagree with me but personally attacking me is just ridiculous. I love my students even the ones who are troubled. They need mental health care not a gun in their face. They are mad, most of them rightfully so. Many of them have no food at home, no parent who cares. They make poor choices when they are angry. My job, as a trained professional, is to help them learn how to deal with this anger in a functional manner.
"Clearly you are the type of person who makes assumptions without information."
No, you are the ones making assumptions. The kids will get the gun.... The teachers will have to kill the little kids with the gun..... Again there are already schools with faculty carrying guns. It's working and if a armed gunman eners the school they with have the best chance of surviving.
"You are incredibly rude. I absolutely support your right to disagree with me but personally attacking me is just ridiculous"
I did not personally attack you at all. Man you are sensitive for a person in your line of work, huh?
"I love my students even the ones who are troubled. They need mental health care not a gun in their face. "
Ok, so the kids that committed Columbine High School massacre did not need anyone armed to protect the other kids?
They just need someone like to talk to them?
Why would it have to be you. My wifee does not like guns and I cannot see her ever being able to handle one. On the other hand I saw where a 12 year old girl who shoots skeet stopped a home invasion targeting her. Everybody is different. I'm not saying there would be anyone at your school who would want the responsibility of being in charge of a firearm, but you never know. Maybe there would be a retired police officer or highway patrol teaching, What is clear is at this point no one is allowed.. So what if you felt competent to defend yourself with a firearm and took on the responsibillty as a type of "first responder" At this time the only option is to run and hide. They will arrive with weapons eventually, As a thought experiment what if a swat team member started teaching would you allow him a firearm?
I don't have a problem with a trained police officer or school resource officer having a gun on campus. I agree that the idea of teachers carrying guns is contrary to the nature of most teachers. I also think it probably sends the wrong message to kids since teachers are supposed to be people they trust, confide in, and learn conflict resolution skills from. I just think that there is a mistaken impression that all schools are filled with sweet, well behaved, emotionally balanced students. Unfortunately they are not. My fear is that guns in schools would create more problems than they would solve. I appreciate you disagreeing with me without being rude.
Thank you Sara for all that you doing in our schools. Teachers need all our support and our children need a safe school.
How many students are evulated against bipolar? The richest country in the world us has the higest rate of mental illness
because our children is losing all family value. Our children are being robed of there childhood by no other enemy but us. When children grades are not sent to there parents because the schools are trying to protect them in our universities. But as long as Joe/Jane parents pay there tutuion parents must have the right by law to get there childrens grades. Why are kids being pushed away from parents?
India with all its material ill has the least mental illness why? Maybe we need to send our therapist to India for schooling.
Family is the root for good mental health.
i am going to make this short and sweet. your rudeness to your guests, and your improper way of interviewing has not helped your cause at all. i understand passion–and i understand what your are saying. but your way of going about it is not going to have the response your are looking for with everyone. today, i have heard more about your rudeness and arrogant ways on your show on wednesday, than i heard about the shooting. you need to be reighned in.
I agree that his interview was to say the least amateur rating. You don't invite a guest to act arrogant and disgusted by their views. I think, if that principle had been armed thins would have been very different.
folks, Piers Morgan is a pathetic excuse for a host, rude and obnoxious and totally devoid of facts. just take a look at the show's sponsers and boycott them if you want CNN to take notice. getting rid of Piers and shipping him back to his socialist country can happen if ratings decline and sponsers start feeling the heat.
Morgan is a piece of globalist garbage that thinks the Globalists are going to give him a position at the table and the only thing he has coming is a beheading.
I am so sick of Morgans anger – he should be off TV we are not a nation of angry people we are a thoughtful nation
Edward R Murrow, Walter Cronkite and even Barbra Walters never let it get personal. Frankly someone will punch him in the noise for being such a jerk. We need a dialog no name calling
Piers really does need to get off his high horse on this gun issue and start acting like the professional that he supposedly is. I am not quite sure why pro-gun guests even bother to come on, as they are abused verbally by this joke of an interviewer.
Mr. Morgan keeps talking about the "gun spraying bullets" at people. No, Piers, that would be the person holding the gun who is spraying the bullets.
I am curious why Piers has spent little to no time discussing what part our culture plays into these shootings. The increase of broken homes, the de-valuation of human life, violent video games, glamorizing of violence by HOllywood, etc.
Mr. Morgan seems perfectly willing to ditch our Second Amendment rights, but I suspect he would get his dander up if someone suggested reigning in the free speech of Hollywood.
Right on, Guns and gun violence are the bread and butter of hollywood.
if i had been that gun advocate–when piers was screaming questions : 'how many bullets per second?", just asking that over and over, without getting a chance to reply. i would have just sat there and looked at him and not even tried to respond until he shut his mouth.
Hey Piers did you see the news today on CNN? The two women Bobbies killed- they were unarmed.
Hold on Peirs has to convince the US citizens to lay down their arms before the next agenda of disarming our police force.
Only his brother in the Queens Army should have guns.
I am pretty sure the Columbine kids and this kid was on SAID's like Prozac. Why no one saying anything about this?
MR. NORTH SAYS HOW FAR DO WE HAVE TO GO. MY ANSWER TO HIM IS, ALL THE WAY BACK TO UK FOR HIS ASS. OH AND PIERS, YOU CAN JOIN HIM. MORON!!!!!!!!
So there you have the answer, Piers. Give teachers, clergy, nurses Bushmasters. These gun advocates are truly insane. It's all the more reason to ban these weapons.
You make it sound like they will forcing or just passing them out to everyone. As I said above, For a thought experiment what if a swat team member turned teacher, he felt comfortable with the responsibility and felt he could act as a type of "first responder" would you allow him a firearm, would you want him to be armed. No one would make anyone be responsible for a gun. This should be a personal choice depending on the person. I am a male, but I must admit I don't like chain saws, so I don't use them..
So Clint, maybe we should all strap on Bushmasters when we go to the mall, church, school or the movies.
Maybe we should all get in a rocket ship and go elsewhere, Why do you think the average law abiding person is some type of maniacal extreme. This reminds me of the blood in the streets prediction when concealed carry was considered. People just like you were screaming, blood in the streets. Those with concealed carry permits do not commit crimes. That' s statistics. So far all I have seen from the gun control crowd is slander, yelling, assuming, fearmongering, a total lack of historical knowledge and no care to look at precident or case study. Someone tommorow could save lives with a gun and you wouldn't give a care. I used to get the NRA magazine, each month a page of stories of defence with a firearm. That is what we are talking about. What about all those people killed by fist and feet, What do you want to do – outlaw martial arts.
Clint, the idea that teachers, nurses, and clergy should pack Bushmasters and that solves the problem is insane, and if you don't see that there's something wrong with you. As a person who has looked down a double barreled shot gun pointed at my face by my drunk father who frequently terrorized my family with his guns, My father was one of those law abiding citizens who legally own guns. I know about gun violence first hand, So your solution would be that I should have had a gun too. Even with my experience I'm not saying that all guns should be banned. There is no sensible reason why the public needs to have access to Bushmasters or other guns of that kind.
should have turned your father in for domestic abuse then he would not be able to get or own guns. thats your fault
piers, i'd like to see an interview with TED NUGENT. very interesting
I would love to see Uncle Ted debate gun control with Peirs.
"Uncle Ted" ?? Now Ted Nugent is your uncle? Kind of a sick familial analogy. Ted is a blowhard, rock wannabe who had a short term in the spotlight (and as a Detroiter myself I like some of his music) and now lives in a paranoid fantasy land where he struts around like a rooster with his fanboy groupies who I think actually have man-love for the guy. I appreciate Piers for taking a public stand.
It really has something to do with Prozac, Prozac and Prozac. As in the Columbine Shootings, this kid was on Prozac.
HELL YES! I'M ALL FOR THAT...
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Quote from you "As a person who has looked down a double barreled shot gun pointed at my face by my drunk father who frequently terrorized my family with his guns, My father was one of those law abiding citizens who legally own guns."
This is where youre wrong, your father is not a law abiding citizen as what he did is illegal. What your father did is actually considered a felony and he should be locked up with the other criminals in this country.
As a Canadian I am stunned to hear the comments of Crockett Keller on "equal fire power ". America, America. You need to take a good look at your whole societal value system. You just don't get it.
I am awaiting the Headline "Gung Ho Armed Civilian takes out Piers Morgan". Someone has to stick a sock in it.
Why not ask teachers state by state? Each state can make its own determination based on how teachers vpte. Stop tryingnto dictate the lives of everyone else. Not everyone has a driver, a body guard and personal police escorts from the mayor of new york city pierce. The day bloomberg gives up his bodyguards not just for him but his entre family, then he can tell me ehat to do on guns.
Piers needs to stop having well informed gun enthusiasts on his show, they keep making him look as stupid as he really is. When the only way to defend your position is to repeat the same "100 rounds a minute" garbage that is easily refuted, it's time to hand pick back woods rednecks. Also anyone who has had a home invasion will tell you what they did if they were not armed, hide, call the police (guys with guns) and pray they get there before you are found. Stop creating victims and TRAIN heroes. I don't see piers attacking rap artists, y'know those guys who brag about how killing and robbing got them rich. Just go back to britain already.
Piers just stated that the school shootings were done with an AR-15. WRONG, pistols were used and you emphatically stated it was an AR-15. At least do a little research before you become an expert. I am retired from law enforcement and side with the gun shop owner from Texas. Look at Israel, there are armed guards on the school buses since 1974. We need to recognize the problem and deal with it. Gun bans will NOT cure the problem. Back to the motherland with you.
I own a 20 gauge shotgun which I have used in the past for hunting, including duck hunting. It is a pump action shotgun which can hold up to five (5) shotgun shells. When duck hunting you are rerquired to insert what is sometimes called a "duck plug", which only allows three (3) shells to be inserted into the gun at one time. This is a Federal Law when hunting waterfowl. Why is it that this law can be on the books, and enforced, but the NRA argues against limiting large capacity clips in guns used for other reasons. In fact, I would like to know if any wild game hunting rules allow an unlimited number of shells or bullets to be in a gun or rifle while hunting.
I don't believe the second amendment was inserted for hunting purposes. It was there in the unlikely case that your shooter or someone like him became the first in line in the royal family,or a dictator like Stalin, 60,000 people perished in Russia, mostly Christian, 40,000 churches burned down.
Another uneducated gun owner trying to push his viewes onto others. First of all its called a magazine, not a clip. Go read a book on guns or better yet attend a training class, you might actually learn something.
hunting with specific calibers has no limit on magazines. check the fish and wildlife sites for specifics
I'm watching tonight in disbelief that the man interviewed from Texas wants to arm principals, teachers, etc. with guns! I am a retired teacher/principal, my husband is a retired teacher and coach, and my 27 year old daughter presently teaches second grade here in Hunterdon County, NJ ( an area very much like Newtown, CT). What an absolutely horrific idea! I would love to be part of a panel discussion on your CNN show, Mr. Morgan, to debate this. Mick North was knowledgeable and positively inspiring in terms of what direction we should be taking here in the USA.
What we need to do is pick one person male or female from each school and make them train dilligently in martial arts. Since no weapons are alowed they must have fist of fury just like Bruce Lee. Then during the 15 min. or so it takes the swat unit to arrive, assemble and work their way in, they will at least as they say, "have a fighting chance. '
With all due respect it is "horrific" that you do not believe in taking action to protect the children. There are currently already schools in the USA that allow trained faculty to carry guns to protect the children. Are you against cops carrying guns too?
Its closed minded people like you that are part of the reason these kids are dying and the teachers are having to throw their bodies in front of the bullets. THAT'S HORRIFIC!
I stopped reading your comment right after I reached the text "New Jersey"
So, all of you folks that think you will achieve the utopian view of having everyone abiding by the laws of this country if we only were to ban guns.....I've got to ask.....Is it more or less likely that the only individuals that will then possess the guns will be criminals and the government? So, who exactly are you all kidding? All you big government, pass-a-law-to-control-the-people robots out there.......what about Hollywood?...what about the video game makers that create the first-person-shooter games?.....Let me guess.....that's all "fake"....it doesn't hurt anyone......you're all idiots.
Please reference your statements that anyone has put forward what you have just asserted. I've watched every show since Pratt was on and I've yet to hear anyone calling for a complete ban on firearms.
Russ, my point is that Pierce and all his anti-gun blowhard friends rant and rave over this issue....yet fail to understand that banning semi-automatic guns will only lead to law-abiding citizens not having them, and with thugs and criminals having them. It does not make any sense. NO LAW can replace having common sense. In this terrible case, a mother (who was likely in denial over the true condition of her son) was careless enough to leave unsecured firearms in the house. A countermeasure to that lack of common sense would be to arm as much of the school staff that would be willing to become TRAINED in the proper use of a firearm for DEFENSIVE PURPOSES. The fact that Pierce repeatedly made reference to a "female teacher" taking up arms against an armed intruder shows how disgustingly chauvinistic he is. I know several women that wouldn't have a problem putting a cap in someone if they're threatened or under attack.....and they're all great mothers to boot! As soon as that crazy SOB forced his way into the school he should have been put down with one shot to the head....problem solved.
I've read ranting and raving from both sides of the discussion, and none of it is particularly helpful. I don't believe there has been a call for a complete ban on firearms, and it was that particular point I was addressing. I do think a complete ban is unnecessary and unworkable. It is reasonable, though, that there will be an examination of the proliferation of military-grade weapons that can be so easily obtained...
Ya pierce, yell and scream like a moron at all gun rights advocates, but kiss sopranos creator david chase's ass, the show that had loads of violence how come you dont have the balls to grill him on the gun use on his show. You are a 2 faced snake
Hey Piers go back to England if you think our gun law stink. CNN you are turning into MSNBC.
Thank you Mr. Morgan! After last night I did not want to watch again...but did. By allowing others to speak, regardless of how difficult it may be, we can hear the lunacy of their "solutions." It is visible how difficult it is to stay silent, but, it was civil. Thank you.
As a former teacher....and living in Texas....it is ridiculous to arm the teachers in the schools.
Your guest from Scotland made perfect points.
I am a gun owner. I live in an area with mountain lions, coyotes, and other predatory animals. There are times that in order to protect my animals I have need of a weapon. I do not understand the need outside of law enforcement and military for high count clips, and the weapons that use them. I blame the popularity of them on media, video games, and the turning of gang thugs into heros for the younger age groups.
Solution? The high count clips must be outlawed, the requirements to acquire weapons must be tightened, our society must be healed from our lack of sensitivity to violence... That could be the beginning.
Again, thank you for the civil discourse--I understand the heartache and rage....but, that was not the answer.
Donna its called a magazine, a clip is something that holds bullets when not in a gun. You mention youre a gun holder but dont know the difference, perhaps you should invest in a training class to better protect your animals. I am worried you may end killing an innocent person.
So you believe its ok to carry a gun to protect your livestock from predators but it is "ridiculous" to train willing faculty in handing arms and tactical combat to protect our children from monsters like killed these kids. I'm sorry you are a hypocrite!
The suggestion that teachers should be armed is absurd! You may as well send them to boot camp, make them Marines or Navy Seals before putting them in the classroom.
To appropriately respond to a shooter takes training that would be ongoing. Hire security do not put a teacher in that situation, let a professional who’s craft it is to respond to these types of situations because that is their job, not the teachers.
Part of the solution is simple. Slap hefty taxes on the sales of guns, make the gun manufactures fund the hiring of security for schools. Gun manufactures are not unlike tobacco manufactures, hold them responsible for the deaths associated to their products. Hell why stop there find an angle and sue them for wrongful death. Time they start emptying their coffers and step up and make a donation to Newtown.
Newtown has lost more their right to bear arms they lost something more fundamental, the God given right to sleep at night knowing they can raise their child with out fear of them being gunned down in the streets and schools of America. Can you seriously go to sleep tonight without fear for your children tomorrow?
Time to ante up Gun Lobbyist, empty your pockets and fund change. Don’t make the parents of Newtown and the parents before them pay anymore then they have already to restore their peace of mind for their children safety.
What if they did go to boot camp and were a navy seal, now they were a teacher. Would you expect them to run and hide, hoping. What if they could save lives?
I agree Clint not my point, teachers have enough on their plates. When are they going to fit time in to hit the gun range and add regular defence training on top of their current workload. Of course individuals rise to hoerism whom are not on the front lines of violence everyday and I would hope my child's teacher would protect my child as if he was their own. I believe all teachers need training to protect their students. while they are teaching my child I would rather someone be on watch whose job and regular training is to take out an assailant before he gets to the teacher. That cost money so does arming and training teachers, might as well make it someone's full time job.
all rationalizations and excuses eh Fletcher. How about the Sandy Hill principal who confronted the shooter. He gunned her down like all of his other victims...but what if she had a Glock 17 and a couple of handgunning classes under her belt. She could have neutralized the psycho before he got into the classroom. You probably think she's a hero...I think she's a victim as well as the children who were murdered because they were all forced to be in a place where any perp could slaughter them at will without any armed resistance until the police arrived.
You make the sport/ passtime of shooting sound so arduous and difficult because you yourself obviously hate it. That's ok by me...but don't project your dislike and fear of the "what if's" regarding firearms masquerade as fact.
Maybe you should read about what the onside media does not want you to read like Vice Principal Joel Myrick.
Go to the parents of the next school the gunman was heading to to and stand in front of them and explain why Joel should have just waited for the police.
ohh that's it Dave....let's build a wall of mystical ninja-like, jedi-like expertise around the average armed first-responder while out teachers and children are being held out as bait in "gun free" zones to further the liberal agenda of elinimating the 2nd amendment.
As a student of tactical handgunning I can honestly tell you that any resistance to a school shooter is better than no resistance (which is what they can expect because of the legislative madness of the "gun free" zone.)
Absolutely Dave, why not put someone between the teacher and the gunman like a trained professional. Are you suggesting their tactical training is inferior to your ninja skills or that they would be any less heroic to save the lives of children and teachers they would be charged with? Maybe if there is someone in the hallway of a school with a gun and a perp makes it in the teacher doesn't even have to deal with this the person who's full time job it is to protect them takes the perp out.
Exactly, David. Gun manufacturers are squarely behind the "more guns" mentality. It means more money to line their pockets with. I hope it backfires on them and their stocks continue to go down.
I love how this evenings discussion pointed out the 1996 Dubland massacre yet failed to make any mention of the 2010 shootings. Oh wait thats right that would prove there were still loop holes in the ban the U.K. passed, because this shooting in 2010 was performed by a man who legally owned a shotgun and 22 rifle! Oops did we fail to mention that. I am not against reasonable restrictions, nor closing loop holes in the laws that are already on the books. I just wish this smug Brit would point out all the facts even in the U.K. stance on weapons
There might be loopholes in every system, but these shootings would have been worse with fully automatic weapons which were banned...think that this is the point that all here need to look at.
Actually that's not correct. Full auto in the lightweight M4/M-16 is extreemyl inaccurate. The weapon jumps all over the place. Good for military type fighting (lots of rounds down range keeping the enemy's head down so you can advance, but much less lethal. I understand that is why the USMC went to M-4's with no more than 3 round burst capacity as we were tought to manually employ in the Army.
Automatic weapons were banned? by who? what country? It is NOT illegal to purchase a full auto weapon in the U.S. However it is cost prohibitive for the common person in the U.S. and you must have the correct license.
Berry is correct both the Marine Corps and Army switched out from the Full auto M-16 in the 1980's because of inaccuracy in a heated fife fight "lessons learned in Vietnam" for the M4 version of the M-16 with 3 round bust better control, and accuracy. As for the issues of this debate I fully understand what the Smug Brit is getting at, but I find it disgusting that he would use only one example from the U.K. to try to exploit his views. If he misses Marry Ole England so dam bad move back! I Have the utter respect for members of Her Majesty's Services, i have had the opportunity to work with them and have the utmost respect for them. This Smug S.O.B. sorry not going to happen
Since no one will answer Piers on TV on how many rounds an AR-15 can fire I will do it here. The AR-15 like all semi-automatic weapons can fire one round per trigger pull. The AR-15 isnt more dangerous than, a semi-auto is a semi-auto. I hope that Piers will read this and educate himself.
Thank tou again Piers, for all you are doing.
absolutely, his soft-handed, "tough talk" against the 2nd Amendment has sold more rifles and ammo thn Obama....he should be employee of the quarter at half the gun stores in America....keep up the good work Piers....
Jebb, this is the third time you've posted this exact to-the-letter message. We applaud your ability to cut and paste, but you have to appreciate that simply repeating the same statement over and over again does not make it true or you smart.
Nice to see people thinking about gun control though!!
This show is a joke. A Brit doing all that he can to slant American opinion against our 2nd Ammendment...the thought his peopleor a similar government are the reason we have it! And to make the other side look foolish, he gets these pro-gun enthusiasts on there that are off the charts nuts. No logical person would advocate arming teachers and nurses, but would certainly advocate professional security at vulnerable venues and very strick enforcement of gun ownership (weapons secure storage, background checks on ALL household members, purchase age 25+, ect) with severe jail time for violations. Most reasonable gun owners would accept this, but not a Brit giving us his opinion on our 2nd. Well at least he didn't give us his Jerry Springer rant tonight.
Well, well, well Mr. Morgan...
Looks as thought your pathetic Liberal gun hate rhetoric has helped land BILLIONS OF DOLLARS in the sales of AR15s. Hmm...seems like this whole heart bleed ordeal BACKFIRED ON YOU! Stick to your own politics! Keep your nose out of ours!
No, it did not.
Go to the gun store than. They have completely sold out of the guns in question. Placing huge orders for more that will sell out as soon as they arrive. Gun permits are being filed faster than they a keep up. Record people are joining the NRA and Gun owners of America.
Sorry,but that just doesn't make it real smart
Piers , common sense and reason says that you are 100 % correct in your position . No society in the history of the world comes close to the violence that is tolerated in the U.S.A. Citizen on citizen. The problem is they cannot take all the guns off the street so the gun lobby states that assault rifles should be availed to all . I guess every school in America will need to hire its own Seal team and train its school teachers to pack magnums and do a Dirty Harry on any person who comes within spitting distance of a school carrying any kind of weapon. America wake up you should be marching on the streets and show real anger you have a very violent sick,sick society and its not a model as to how a civilization should evolve.
Piers...seriously...it's time to pack your suitcase and go back to the UK to judge talent shows. Your grandstanding against the 2nd Amerndment is destroying CNN's viewership even more that your network's reputation as the whitehouse's propaganda news service.
Boy, American people would never send their children to a school, where Teachers have to carry a gun.
People who love their guns are scared little induviduals , they feel BIG only when they carry a gun.
Mr. Morgan is upsolutely right . You want to protect our children, have a Policeman at every school.
to protect our children, the future of America.
It has nothing to do with right, its all about money-money money making,you all saw that man with the BIG HATat Mr. Morgans interview.
There are already schools in the USA that already have armed teachers in schools. Thus your statement is completely wrong
you can pay for those extra policement Martha-Karen....I'm done with feeding the liberal frenzy with my tax dollars.
I dont think so....
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated
Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
Just so that I understand you clearly, the reason you are against any limitation on access to military weapons (nobody has suggested a complete ban on firearms) is that you are afraid the federal government is then going to start rounding up and executing citizens a la Stalinist Russia and Hitler's Germany?
Really? You're afraid of your own government???
I thought the majority of the 'pro-gun' people (forgive the label) were more concerned with raving criminal lunatics shooting up schools or movie theaters, or invading their homes or jumping out from behind bushes or something.
How about we all stop watching this show and commenting on this site. Ratings will go down and POOF no more Piers. Brilliant!
He already said he will do what it takes to pass laws even if it only saves one person.
Odds are that if that one person was you, you'd feel pretty good about his conviction... ;)
I am a married father of two girls (6 and 11). My wife is a teacher. I am a republican, and believer of the 2nd amendment. I am a deer hunter who owns a .270 bolt action hunting rifle which holds 3 bullets at one time. Now let me say, who needs an assault rifle that holds 30 rounds of ammo. Not me! We need to ban all assault rifles to ordinary citizens, which provide no benefit to the owners. Assault rifles are not good hunting rifles. Watch the hunting channel; they don’t use AR-15s for deer hunting. Assault rifle are exactly what their meaning is, “Assault” meaning “attack”, which does not mean “defend”. We must be responsible in protecting our children and logical with our laws. I support Pier Morgan’s, fight for stiffer gun laws and understand his passion and frustration on this topic. At the same time, we must be a responsible nation and begin consulting with experts in regards to how do we make our schools safer without arming teachers. Arming teacher is not an intelligent approach. I do not think teachers or school districts want the responsibility and liability, if by chance a student gets a hold of a teacher’s gun, and uses it in our schools. Let's be smarter than that!
Jeff can you explain how an "assault" rifle is any different or more dangerous than your normal semi-automatic weapon?
Thank you, Jeff, for a well thought out and reasonable post. It was a pleasure to read.
You believe in the 2nd amendment and think it has to do with your right to hunt?
Sad day for America. God help us and all the slaughtered people in history.
This is the point that no one wants to talk about in this debate. Jeff, people want these guns because they don't trust our government. Plain and simple. It has nothing to do with hunting.
Sorry, I mean this out of control government.
Actually, despite what Piers with his limited knowledge of firearms claims, AR15s are extremely popular with varmint hunters, and are used by ranchers to cull out fast moving predators like coyotes and wolves, where quick follow up shots are required. The larger caliber AR15s are also used by big game hunters across the country, and some of the heavier caliber one's actually make good bear defense guns.
20 children and all everyone is concern about is how can i reserve the right to own a gun. Its not the question.. the question is why does someone need a high power military style gun with extended clips... don't say its for target shooting ... that is BS... that gun is made to kill.. period.... if it wasn't then why does the military use it? think people... we have people out there that have no clue and think its cool... we didn't have these issues in the 60's 70's or even the 80's... so what has change.. made the thought is who cares? or we have lost touch with each other... 20 kids ... sad
Mike its called a magazine, not a clip. Tell me what is the difference if im holding 1 magazine with 30 rounds in it or 3 magazines with 10 rounds each. Better yet, what if I am holding 3 guns with 10 rounds each? I dont think the capacity of the magazine has anything to do with it. We ban murder in this country however murder happens almost every hour. Laws and restrictions are not the answer.
Jeff... great posting.. my daughter is a teacher and i could not see her with a gun... she is trained to teach young children not have a side arm.... thank you sir... for your comments
this man is very scare...he no that it is wrong to carry guns in school..what kind ofmessage would we as people teaching young kids and young adults...i think you Mr.Morgan should check to male sure he didn't have a mental health problem...he sound like he does...he problem purchased his gun before he been evaluated for mental health...i think you(Mr.Piers Morgan ) should check into his background and if he is found to have a therapist..You should seek to get his guns removed..
"You are incredibly rude. I absolutely support your right to disagree with me but personally attacking me is just ridiculous"
I did not personally attack you at all. Man you are sensitive for a person in your line of work, huh?
"I love my students even the ones who are troubled. They need mental health care not a gun in their face. "
Ok, so the kids that committed Columbine High School massacre did not need anyone armed to protect the other kids?
They just need someone like to talk to them?
don't post my remark but know that your show did tonight was sick we all know from the studys on the war of the world and other movies that its the truth that the movies can make some very sick. they are to blame. how dary you not say this.
I see your rules say "courteous" discussion. That's more than can be said for your host. Ship his ass back to England where he might get find a job wiping the queen's a– or nose.
Someone should start a Piers Moron web site.
Sometimes it takes an outsider to see the situation for what it really is. I think your perception of the gun problems in this country is right on target. After living in Turkey for two years, and Germany for several years, I came back to this country in absolutel disbelief. Both my husband and I have compared our country to a third world country. How sad. Guns are an enormous problem, and how do you argue with an idiot who will never be willing to open his mind and see what is right for the majority of Americans.
Did you study Turkish history while you were there?
In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
We have our 2nd Amendment for good reason. Study history a little any you will start to understand why with amendment is the backbone to all our other freedoms that many take for granted.
How is a ban on guns going to keep them out of the hands of the bad guys? Oh thats right, probably the same way the ban on drugs is keeping them out of schools and communities, lets not forget the ban on murder because that doesnt happen either.
I've asked before (Elliot, are you there?) about the statement that anyone is calling for a complete ban on firearms but there doesn't seem to be anyone who can answer. Perhaps you can.
What are your sources? Who said they are calling for a complete ban on all firearms? I have watched those programs that are being discussed and don't recall hearing that...
It's in the fact that, as you watch the things you're watching, these "anti" people totally misrepresent the situation. USING this horrible situation to bring up what, if you'll study further about these folks, IS their AGENDA...TOTAL gun ban. THIS situation did not use assault weapons, so why are we discussing....assuault weapons??
What a piece of garbage. Guns of all types have no place in a moral and civilized society.
We all agree that no sane person would commit these horrendous crimes. Therefore no sane person would want to own and carry a gun.
Merry Christmas to you and all your gun loving friends in the asylum.
Barry, I'm sorry, you'll have to help me a bit...
You said: "It's in the fact that, as you watch the things you're watching, these "anti" people totally misrepresent the situation" and "if you'll study further about these folks, IS their AGENDA...TOTAL gun ban"
What people? I haven't heard anyone calling for a total ban. Who are they?
The mass murderers want different targets. The next might be old age homes, or nurseries or who can guess what. We need to arm ourselves so that we don't need to wait for the police. An Assault Rifle is the ultimate Defense Rifle. If someone cornered me, and was shooting at me (the oil industry sponsored Men In Black who want to kill me for my Free Energy Device as an example), I'd want Full Auto and 1000's of rounds. If I am successful and put a Free Energy Device in your house, you will want an Assault Rifle with 100 round magazines.
I guess we better listen to this "Scottish" guy now, telling us to give up our rights. Whatever Piers! Go home, and take the limmy Scott with you.
tonight watching your show made me see one thing. Its not the gun banding that is up setting me. for I do think we need to back off on the guns. hand gun shot gun is a good deal any thing over this is over kill. But its you Morgan and the other guy you had on that is from England. the English got up set over Mitt making remarks on there country be really. so that’s it, its you. Your telling us when your not from her what to do. But its Hollywood its the movies and if you wish to kiss up to them your sad in doing this. they done many studies that show this.
Band the movies or this is going to get worst and you know it.
HEY MORGAN , IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE US FREEDOMS AND THE RIGHT FOR AMERICANS TO OWN GUNS.... WHY DON'T YOU TAKE YOURSELF BACK TO ENGLAND...I'M SURE NO ONE WOULD MISS YOU !
THAT'S WHY ENGLAND HAD TO CALL ON THE GREAT COUNTRY OF THE USA TWICE IN ONE CENTURY, BECAUSE OF THE DIMWITTS LIKE MORGAN
Mark you are an idiot with a mental capacity suitable to run for a seat on NRA board of directors.I recommend you go to Newtown and talk to the parents,brothers and sisters of the little kids murdered in their classroom with an assault weapon and tell them the 2nd amendement is more important than a total ban on public sale of such weapons.Name me just on case where (semi)automatic gun played a role in SAVING life or property!
Actually it was a CHL holder that stopped the Oregon gunman at the mall. http://www.fishgame.com/deblog.php?p=888
Everyone youre missing the point. We already have a ban on school grounds, perhaps this miss print of a human forgot to read the sign. I would like to know how a ban on guns will stop the bad guys from obtaining them? Someone please explain this to me. I mentioned it a few posts above, I assume it will keep the guns out of our communities and schools similar to the drug laws. At the end of the day murder is banned and yet someone commits a murder every hour if not more frequent.
Please Mr. Morgan, would you be so kind, as a self-proclaimed journalist, as to let people who utter a different opinion than you have, finish their sentences? Shouldn't you, as a journalist and host, show some kind of distancing yourself from agressively taking sides? Because of your behavior during a lot of shows, not only recent ones, it's increasingsly hard for me to watch your program. Larry King was in a COMPLETELY different class. Please reconsider your behavior
I'm European and don't take sides, I'd like to hear different opinions, so PLEASE´let people speak without interrupting them when you don't like what they're saying. Thank you.
Its apparent from his behaviour on the show that he failed journalism 101. England didnt want him so he ends up here. Good job to the CNN executive that extended him an offer.
That is probably true. I don't think Piers Morgan actually went to university, or even has a degree, which might explain some things.
Piers I want to personally thank you for boosting the US economy this CHRISTMAS season with all the gun and ammunition purchsing its really going to add to the bottom line for many businesses.
Interesting to note that I was at a gun store this week and saw firsthand the reactions of hundreds of people acting upon talk of gun bans. Literally hundreds were sold in that one store , in 1city, in 1 state, on 1 day. The government should or will see what effects a ban is going to have and is having before legislation even begins. In less than a week the results have been a drastic increase on the number of "assault weapons" in possession by many that otherwise would not have been purchased. What's the plan for those? I know firsthand a large percentage of law enforcement will either refuse or be extremely hesitant in attempts to remove any firearm that was purchased legally. I just love the thought processes of do gooders!!
Please, please for God sake, go back to your home country England. I am fed up with your show. Each night, Since like 10 days in row, you have talking about the same issue. Gun and Gun Control. In those 10 days, Some 900 died in car accidents in US. In addition, 60 or so, Aged 0-14 where in killed in those days. If you have interest in saving lives go after cars, not guns. A Car does not defend me against criminal with knife or sword, or chainsaw, when attacked in my home, My firearm does! Reference for your reading: http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/809762.pdf
While gun deaths in Britain are low, the overall violent crime and homicide rate, despite the absence of guns, is the highest in Western Europe. The Germans, French, Swiss, Italians and Spanish, to name a few of Britain's close European neighbors, are some of biggest gun owning nations on the planet. The Swiss and Germans for instance, on a per capita basis, rank 3rd and 4th in the world, according the UN, in terms of private gun ownership (45.7 gun/100 people and 30.1 guns/100 people respectively), and the French, Italians and Spanish rank closely behind. Britain conversely has one of the lowest gun ownership rates (ranked 88th – 6.7 guns/100 people) and yet all of these other European countries have significantly lower overall homicides rates, despite having more guns in circulation. Maybe Piers could explain why the probability of getting murdered in Britain is so much higher than any of these other gun toting European countries – the overall murder rate in Germany, Switzerland and France for example is 30% lower than Britain's. Guns are clearly not the problem, because if they were, all of these countries would have substantially higher homicide rates than Britain. The question that should be asked is why are some societies, like Britain, so much more violent than others?
Lastly, Piers continues to mislead his viewers in terms of the reported gun crime numbers in Britain. If you take 1997 as the baseline year, when Britain banned handguns, the number of reported gun crimes and gun injuries today are significantly higher. Multiple reports in the British media in 2009 confirm this. Gun crime doubles in a decade, were the headlines.
I went to the first article you identified and read it. It seems you missed this part:
A Home Office spokeswoman said: "It is misleading to compare figures for 2007 / 08 with those from 2002 and before, due to changes in recording practices.
"There has been an 11 per cent fall in gun crime since 2005 and provisional figures for firearm offences recorded by the police show they account for 0.2 per cent of all recorded crime.
Shall I waste my time going to the others? And, too, lets talk real numbers. The US has about 31,000 people a year killed by guns. The UK, about 350.
There is an old adage that you probably haven't heard before – figures lie and liars figure. Who knew?
Omg – the NRA is doing it's press conference right now and it's beyond horrible!! This guy is scaring the crap out of everyone – it's building up...it sounds like he's going to tell people to get MORE guns!! So disgusting – who are these people?? God help us...
It is a shame to hear the the the Vice President of the NRA is blasting the media and the polticians, the tells a lot, now because the politicians are turning their backs on the NRA, the NRA is blasting them. The NRA vice President sound like an idiot. SHAME ON THE NRA. They need to answer the questions now. They want to make the school a WAR ZONE.
Your the women they had to drag out of the press conference just so they speak? Wake up the Schools are a potential war zone. 20 kids were just killed! Now you are against protecting them? Man you are the one with blood on your hands. How do you propose protecting the children?
Well, you have to appreciate that the NRA is a business, a very large and very rich business. The four million members have pumped tens of millions of dollars into lobbying Washington politicians to support their agenda. They manipulate the political process that some of the people here seem to be blissfully ignorant of, reading their posts.
But lets take their suggestion as an option. There are about 100,000 schools in the US. I wouldn't imagine that the local police forces would voluntarily place an armed guard there, so it would have to be something paid for either by the state or federal government (taxes). And figure an officer would have to be there about 8 hours a day at the minimum. I hate to speculate, but lets assume current wages are about $25/hr for a cop to patrol the halls for each of those eight hours. Each day that would cost the American taxpayer about $20,000,000 A DAY just to pay the raw wages, not considering the additional cost of insurances and benefits. And how many school days are there each year and every year thereafter – 200?
Sounds expensive to me.
No they sound to me they want action now to protect schools. He was speaking of armed security. Amazing again how statements are twisted to attempt to influence the minds of adults. What do you think is the cause of the major meltdown of values in our society? The media and entertainment industries have nothing to do with it? I would guess that a huge number of parents are guilty of not providing what children view and do with their time when the mother is at work.
Now that the NRA has fought so hard to get 3,000,000 AR-15 style assault rifles on the streets of America, armed guards might be the only solution to this madness. I'm a life long gun owner and see absolutely no need for military assault rifles, even in semi-automatic form, in the hands of citizens. These guns were designed for the battlefield and sad to say, that is what America is becoming. I applaud Mr. Piers Morgan for fighting thre good fight.
Do you have anything to say about gun control?
Jebb say something about gun control?
It seems all he can do is cut and past ad nauseum the same old drivel. I've seen about a dozen of these from him in the past three or four days of these discussions. I'm getting the idea that he's not capable of a rational discussion and he posts "because he can" and not to add to anything here...
It is amazing to see how many "pro-choice" or (pro-death) advocates like Piers Morgan are suddenly pretending to care about the lives of children or human life in general, for that matter. This is rich.
I'm sure you can find a cogent connection between what a woman might do with her body and a discussion concerning guns, but I can't. It's just a little too Freudian for me... :)
Tianna Love Riddle, I, and most Americans, **agree with everything you just said!!!** WE, the silent EDUCATED majority of this country, completely agree that these pro-gun cowboy "macho poser" IDIOTS should be sent off far, far away to their own little island where they can play with their gun toys all they want. But do us civilized people a favor, and shut up about your gun rants, in which half of you can't even spell or write cohesively anyway. GUNS ARE NOT THE ANSWER. PERIOD. It is 2012 not 1812. Time now to STFU!
And just to clarify Tianna, I was NOT telling you to shut up. Instead I was talking directly to these straw hat wearing wannabe cowboys that you and I both agree should simply shut up!
You are as rude as Piers Morgan. Two peas in a pod. Please get a grip and try to chill. You should also apologize to Tianna Love Riddle for telling her Time now to STFU!
By the way you should ease up on your comma usage.
What struck me the most was at the end of the interview when Dr. North used the anti-choice people's phrase, "right to life", in relation to guns. His use of that term made me think anti-gun violence people should adopt "pro life" as an identifier, since it's the only context in which the term makes any sense.
I have just read many posts and the insanity I talk of appears to be prevalent among you. I guess I should not be surprised at the ignoramuses who prefer guns and killing to life. Why don't you all meet in a circle and start firing your guns. You make me sick.
Obvisouly youre missing the point and probably would not understand if it smacked you right in the face. Let me try to break it down for you in terms that you might understand, let me know if im going to fast:
1 – Gun laws only restrict law abiding citizens to obtain them
2 – Criminals will always have access to guns no matter how many laws and restrictions are passed
3 – Legal guns owners, those who actually take a class and learn something about a gun are just as responsible with a weapon as police offices and military personnel.
By comparison lets look at the drug laws:
1 – Bad guys have access to all the drugs they want
2 – Drug free school zones dont prevent drugs from entering schools
3 – America is losing the battle on drugs
Can you relate the two? Is your brain mentally developed enough for you to connect the dots and draw a conclusion?
After today's posts by all the lunatics who have no regard for human life what can I say. If guns were banned where would the criminals get them? Therefore no guns by anyone means you have no reason to defend yourself. As I have said in many posts the US is the most violent country in the world vis a vie gun deaths by legal guns. 100 time more than any other industrialized country. Who needs a gun? No one.
If gun owners don't give a damn about what is happening around them, what does it matter. The lives of innocents are are irrelevant in your eyes.
Last Friday a young deranged person killed his mother and all those children and teachers. They were killed by legally obtained guns by a sane person, his Mother. If there were real gun laws including all types of weapons, these guns he had would not be available to him. Maybe his derangement would have turned him to a bow and arrow or a knife. He might have killed one or at most two.
Do you value your gun more than one innocent life? Is it worth owning a gun to satisfy your manly ego? I am against capital punishment. how many innocent people have been murdered by the authorities. One such murder is one too many. How many innocent people have we killed and killed and killed in the name of revenge. The civilized world lives without guns. Are you suggesting that you are no higher on the moral scale than the lunitics.
As I have said in previous posts, all you gun loving sick people who think your gun is more important than one human life should all get together and stand in a circle and start firing. The problem is solved. All the gun lovers are dead and maybe the rest of us can live in peace knowing some lunatic will not cross our path.
I don't completely agree with Piers Morgan. He is a softie and really does not say the truth. All guns, hand guns included should be illegal. The fine for having one should be tens years salary and at least ten years in confinement or sent to a remote location with no hope of escape.
Do you have an innocent loved one? A young child who has a whole life in front of her and then is mowed down by a legally obtained gun by a person who passed all the checks to obtain the gun who has been an upstanding citizen. This person slipped and banged their head in the fall and lost it. One innocent death is not worth the 300,000,000 million guns in possession in home . If you have one grain of intelligence you will realize all the horror guns have caused to many very decent people. Think again.
I DISAGREE with the suggestion of our teachers being armed! Talk about flirting with disaster! What kind of message do we want to send our children? I do AGREE with retired military personnel, bearing arms, protecting our schools. Teachers should be equipped with non-lethal devices and a plan of action. Our children deserve to be and feel safe.
No, our kids deserve to BE safe. They should be allowed security. We have it all over society. All these liberals that want to disarm law abiding citizens all have security that is armed to to the teeth to protect them and their kids.
Are they more secure with guns on all sides or with no guns on either side. If you do not cherish our society, keep buying guns. If you have a touch of decency, wake up...GUNS KILL!
If you believe, as Piers does, that we should ban military type assault rifles and high capacity clips and close the loopholes that allow for gun show and online purchases without a background check, please join me and thousands of other Americans and light a candle in support on Dec. 30 at 8pm EST. I'm just an ordinary, unaffliated citizen whose President has asked for help. Please join in and hopefully, Piers, you will light a candle whereever you are at 8 pm EST. on Dec. 30.
They are just military style weapons, they look like military weapons but the last time the military used semi only rifles was in the 50s in Korea. Actual assault weapons are select fire full auto and semi auto like the M-16.
Why is Piers Morgan so concerned about 1 gun, the AR15? It doesn't take an AR15 to kill a small 40 pound child 10 feet away. You can do that with any gun available in any gun store. You could replicate this disaster with low-powered revolvers and speed loaders.
Gun-free zones don't work and invite violence. That's why President Obama signed legislation to allow guns in National Parks.
The VA Tech shooter killed 32 people and he didn't need an assault rifle. One of his guns was a 22 pistol, one of the lowest powered guns you can buy.
While Nancy Lanza can't defend herself now, there has to be some outrage over how the mother of a disturbed child could leave all that firepower and ammo unlocked in her house. If she had kept her guns and ammo locked while she was gone, this tragedy would not have happened.
Like all gun lovers you are sadly very disturbed. Guns of all kinds kill and kill and kill innocent people. It doesn't have to be an assault rifle but they are faster, and can kill 4 people per second.
There is no other country in the developed world that allows guns of all kinds in anybody's hands. There is one country in the developed world that has the highest kill ratio per capita and that is the US. at least 10 times any other country. You must be very proud of this accomplishment!
Sadly the US is becoming a sick country because of guns. If we continue supporting insane gun ownership, we have no hope. We don't live in the time of the wild west where we were conquering the natives and needed to defend ourselves. We are as sick as any terrorist with the exception we are terrorizing our friends, our neighbors and our children. Shame on you and shame on all gun supporters. You are all mentally ill and sadly your illness prevents you from realizing the truth. STOP the killing by removing all guns from our hands.
Here is a thought: all you believers in gun ownership should be charged with being an accomplice to every murder and face the courts.
Sick, Sick Sick.
Why don't you try that crap against a Vietnam vet, one like me. you take for granted the freedoms that men and women like me go over seas fight and die to give little worms like you.
Death of innocent people is crap. Killing of all kinds is crap. How about when your child/grandchild is an innocent victim, is that crap? What if the 20 innocents last Friday were 200 and they were killed in minutes. Are they crap.
Our streets, our schools, our religious houses are not Vietnam, they are not a war zone. I honor those who fight for for our country even when the war is wrong like Iraq. You are a great group but we are not at war with ourselves.
As I said in an earlier post, maybe all the gun toting lovers should make a circle and start firing their guns. Is that the life you want? Are those children who died collateral damage in your war for guns?
Wake up before you have no country to fight for. I love my country as much as any vet. Being a vet does not make horror right. Wake up.
Sadly the US is becoming sick because of criminals, not guns, lets get the facts straight. A gun is a tool and by itself cannot do a darn thing. It take a human to pull the trigger, an evil one to commit a crime and an honest one to prevent a crime.
I dont expect you to understand. Liberaism is a mental desease, its not your fault and I hope with Obama care you can get the mental treatment you so desperately need.
I pray for you
They think they can ban military styled weapons easily on their way to banning what they really want to ban, handguns. But they have underestimated the popularity of military styled rifles. They are the number one selling rifles in America and have been for some time. There are millions of them.
I agree with you. We true liberals want a ban on all guns. America is the only developed country that allows ownership of all guns. All other developed countries don't, including hand guns. The murder rate is 10 times per capita here. If you want to continue slaughtering innocent people go ahead. Kill Kill Kill. Wake up my fellow right wingers. You mean well but look in the mirror. Look at you gun(s). Look at your loved ones. Look at your loved ones missing the one who was slaughtered by a gun owned by a nice person who passed the tests for ownership. Do you have a daughter with pretty blue eyes. Bang she is gone!
When you support ownership you have two guns. When you support no guns then you have the crazies and the gun lovers facing with each holding a knife. You may slaughter one but not 4 per second.
In Canada they have at most 100 gun murders per year. About 60% are mafia related. All the hand guns were bought in the US and smuggled into Canada. 10,000 gun murders in the US and less than 10% are mafia related. We have 10 times the Canadian population and 10 times the murder rate. Don't use your red neck jargon by telling me to move to Canada. In time our democracy will get rid of guns. You will be the proudest American.
I am a U.S.A.F. Vietnam vet and owner of AR-15 assault rifles with 5, 30, 40 and 100 round magazines. I've blead and killed for my country and OVER MY DEAD BODY WILL ANYONE TAKE MY WEAPONS!!!! I challenge Piers Morgan to a live debate anytime anywhere I'm not a pushover like the pro gun rights people he's interviewed. Let him take on a Vietnam vet!
Congrats on your service record!
What in the hell does that have to do with gun ownership. Guns kill. People like you are mentally ill but sadly you do not know it. Most mental patients have no idea their beliefs are abnormal.
Maybe you will wake up and discover that you 6 year old daughter/granddaughter were killed by an assault rifle. Think again and if the US which you fought dearly for means anything to you, rather than criticize Piers Morgan, you would champion him and all of us who know how evil guns are.
Are you a Christian? What would Jesus say to you if he were alive. Love is the answer not guns or gun ownership.
Personally, I am not a organized religious believer yet I am against guns, capital punishment and any type of harm upon another human.
Frankly, I am getting sick when I read the gun lovers' comments. You are a sad lot who have lost your perspective in life. But then, our species has proven over and over again that we have no respect for human life and I find gun lovers head that class.
I have a lot of respect for any combat war veteran. But people screaming about their right to own assault weapons are the very ones who should not own them. William is borderline sociopath and in the USAF never faced enemy fire anyway. Most combat war vets I know want nothing more to do with guns. It is the pretenders who shout the loudest.
You know we feel the exact same way as you with this comment: "People like you are mentally ill but sadly you do not know it. Most mental patients have no idea their beliefs are abnormal."
Am I the only person who recognizes that the NRA's statement regarding the recent tragedy in Connecticut was really just an attempt to try to use the tragedy to help its biggest customers (gun manufacturers) sell more guns? They actually tried to use the death of children to sell guns!
You are not the only one.
The NRA has no morality. They have brainwashed all the crazy gun lovers and frankly do not give a hoot about innocents who are murdered by the weapons the NRA claim are safe.
They argue that all you have to do is background check and then train the owners of these weapons. What they don't
tell you is that some of those who passed background check and were trained sometimes lose their minds. Very well minded people lose it for a variety of reasons. They go berserk. One innocent person killed is one too much.
It is time that the sane people stand up to the gun lobby. We are a civilized society, are we not? Everyone who agrees with this statement, get to the phone or computer and yell "One murder by a gun is too much!" If you keep saying people will believe you. Most people care. Even the brainwashed gun owners will come to realize that their best option is NO GUNS of ANY KIND.
We are the most uncivilized country in the developed world. Is everyone else wrong or are we wrong? Stop the massacre NOW. It may be your child who is murdered by an NRA sponsered gun.
Go, Piers, GO! Keep talking sense to people who need it desperately. Let's hope we can ban assault weapons.
I am so sick and tired of listening to paranoid gun nuts. And gun nuts are what they are. This rabid irrational paranoia is scary. I own guns, always have. I like to target shoot. But I would give them up in a second if the nation just banned them. The answer is to limit the manufacture of guns and force the gun makers to trace the ones they sell. The only purpose of hand guns and assault guns is to kill humans. And if you think that killing humans is ok then you probably should not own a gun. Wake up America and look at the statistics. The answer to guns deaths is more guns?! That is insane. Go Piers. Let's stop the NRA. The NRA has children's blood on their hands and is proud of it.
Please take a moment and email CNN to ask what type of firearm(s) Piers Morgan's bodyguard carries. (Feel free to re-post)
Anyone willing to give up their gun in attempt to get peace and security haven't been mugged on the south side of Chicago. When it's just you, your wife and the intruder, you'd love to have a gun in your hand. But law abiding citizens in Illinois can't defend themselves against lawless criminals so they are slaughtered at a daily rate higher than the war zones of Iraq or Afghanistan. The kids killed at school were made targets by liberals who are willing to sacrifice anyone and anything for their politics. We put guards at sporting events, train stations, banks, even grocery stores but not schools... the most innocent and vulnerable of us all. In fact we make school gun free zones so anyone with criminal intent know where they will have the least resistance. Why do you think there are so many shootings at schools... because criminals know the kids are defenseless. The fact is armed citizens lower crime rates anywhere they are available. It's a fact that can't be denied by any honest assessment of the statistics. Twenty 26 people died at the hand of a crazy person and that's tragic but over 5000 babies are surgically dismembered while they are still alive every day by those same liberals who claim to care so much about the children. Nobody can depend on the government for any protection, they are never around when you need them and even when they are, they are incompetent ...just look at Benghazi. Help was only an hour away for those 4 Americans and the battle when on for over 7 hours but help never arrived because it was never sent. Why did it take the police 20 minutes to show up at the school after the reports of the shooting came in it was a small town. When the intruder is in your house, how long will it take for the police to show up to rescue you and your family? We'll just hear about you on the evening news as another tragic home invasion that ended tragically. It there was only one gun at that school and someone willing and able to use it, how many lives might have been saved. Our only defense against criminals and crazy people is our own initiative and courage to stand up to evil when it happens to us. Having the ability to carry a concealed weapon, your good judgement and ability to use it to defend your family is your only defense. If you are willing to give up your only means of defense because some liberal thinks it would make for a better society , I guess that's just another part of natural selection...maybe you'll get next year's Darwin award.
You are insane. What do liberals, Chicago have to do with this. Our country is barbaric.What happens here does not happen anywhere else because they have strict gun laws..i.e, no guns allowed of any kind. If there are no guns then you do not have to defend yourself with a gun.
What is the matter with all of you. The slaughter just goes on and on. If you don't care, that is sad. Are you pretending it is anything but our gun laws. Then you may as well count the bodies every day.
Gun lovers do not deserve the freedoms they have. You are all sick, sick sick.
I think if we Liberals moved say to Canada and left the lunatic and their guns, then maybe after a period, we will find you all dead from you beloved guns.
As I said several times in my posts...
All gun owners should have a convention in a large stadium. Please stand in a circle, kidd your guns because you love them so much and then start shooting wildly like the lunatics you are.
What about your wives, kids, family and everyone you love join you in your shoot fest. Ready set Fire, Fire, Fire. At least 4 bullets a second.
I am so ashamed of my country for having these lunatics get their way. One life is one too many.
You are living in a dream world if you think you can dis arm all the criminals prowling the streets. They are criminals thus they do not obey the law. When you disarm law abiding citizens you make easy targets for criminals and the insane. This guy was crazy if it were not a gun it would have been something else. Unfortunately these things continue to happen because hysterical people like yourself pass laws to disarm law abiding citizens, the same citizens that could have stopped this tragedy when this lunatic shot his way into the school.
As for Piers Morgan I think he should go back to his socialist homeland and leave us the hell alone. I am sick of those that come to my country and want to tell me how to run this great nation. I beg of you to go from this freedom loving nation, the one whose freedom allows you to be successful, please leave and don't let the door hit you in you hind end.
If guns were unavailable to anyone then criminals would have nothing to steal. It is not criminals who are as much of a problem than very good people going bad. They have their guns and when their mind pops a lot of innocent people die and for no reason. If no one had a gun then you would not need one to defend yourself.
In all other developed countries, the few guns that are available come from us in America.
As long as you incorrectly think that allowing guns is ok, then just think of all the innocent people who are dead and for no reason except that people like you wrongly believe guns are ok. Think again. Think about all the people who are not killed in other countries. Think about a loved one of your killed. You will change your mind.
You mean well but insanity is hard to see in oneself.
Trouble is that you make your decisions based on feelings and emotions.
Rational people make decisions based on fact and rational thinking. The fact is the only place these horrific mass murders take place are where law abiding citizen are lawfully disarmed.
I would be crushed if one of my children were murdered by one of the NUTS, however I would not blame the gun nor would I blame law abiding gun owners who are not the problem.
Using your logic we should blunt all knives, get rid of axes,and burn or meltdown baseball bats. Oh I almost forgot you should get rid of the automobile because that kills a hell of a lot more people every year than firearms.
Emotion is crap. There is a huge lake cluttered with islands. They are all populated. Some are developed and economically successful. Others are not. Among the non developed countries you find tribal wars, ethnic cleansing and with no rule of law. mong the developed countries with the exception of one you have violence but it is limited. Access to violent weapons is limited. In one country, they allow access for most anyone to violent weapons. They are the last island that permits government murder. They have the highest incarceration rate of any developed country and many of the so called barbaric uneducated countries. This island has a love affair with violence. They have laws which were written for a time when they were at war with the group they were conquering. Yet long after they achieved their goals they continue to desire violence. They do not believe that there is a difference between a rapid fire weapon, say 4 bullets per second and a very sharp knife.
What would happen if everyone like me decided to move to another island. All that would be left are the violence loving people. Think again my friend...think again. I have a suggestion which will work. If I got rid of my gun and you got rid of yours, what I do know is that we do not need our gun for self defense. I realize some people will find a way to get a gun but it will be much harder. There are none available at home so they will have to go to another country. They still cannot get a gun because all the developed islands don't have guns.They could go to one of the wild undeveloped countries If they got a weapon they will not be able to return home because they would be stopped from entering with a gun. Just imagine living in our country will be beautiful. No fear of one more innocent person getting killed, not one innocent. child having their future destroyed because some people put guns above all. To me, it sounds like the gun is their God. It is not only the person killed by the gun, the lives of their loved ones are ruined.
Let me ask you again, is the current life in the US the life you want? I hope not!
What about hunters and gun club enthusiasts...Regulations can be put in place which can control these activities going bad. Just like our car rules. We have rules to follow.
The elimination, not the control, of firearms is necessary. There is not one valid argument for their ownership. The self defence argument only makes a bit of sense in an environment of violence. If no one had a gun then their need is completely eliminated. This would be a great start.
You are nuts. According to you logic if you eliminate firearms you will eliminate violent crime. I guess nobody is killed with a bat,knife,or any number of everyday items. And before the invention of gunpowder there no murders in your fantasy world. You need to live in the real world and quit spouting your liberal coffee shop crap.
Without a firearm how should a 110 lb. woman defend herself from a 200 lb. attacker. Samual Colt was right nearly 150 years ago the firearm is the great equalizer.
Gun control does not stop violence. Without guns, on occasion sadly, people are murdered. That is the nature of our species. What does not happen is mass and rapid murder. I refer you and all gun lovers to the following article in the Washington Post.
It is startling that The U.S. gun murder rate is about 20 times the average for all other developed countries. If you really do not care for your fellow Americans and do not mind that innocent people including children, mothers, fathers etc are being massacred because you just love your gun...then that is the kind of country you chose. I believe a term for that is barbaric. I prefer to care for people and would hope Americans feel the same. The next time an innocent person is killed by a gun hope it is not your child.
I realize that you and all the gun lovers are good people and believe guns are not the problem. Please for America's sake think again. Remember we are twenty times more likely to be killed by a gun in America than anywhere else in the developed world.
Let us all get together for a kinder and safer country. I love America and Americans. Do you?
An honorable CNN journalist would apologize to Mr. Platt or resign for being so unbelievably rude in order to boost their twitter followings and TV ratings from such a terrible tragedy. Piers, do you think you may be culpable for many of the assault rifles that became Christmas presents this year? I hear sales are really up.
Now Piers wants to amend the Bible. Brilliant timing for more controversy, thanks for the gifts and Merry Christmas to you and CNN. Hope your ratings please you in the new year.
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I'm impressed with all the name calling Piers. That doesn't really get anyone anywhere. If that's the way the British solve their problems then go back home Piers. Nobody really cares. My first inclination is that you're a pompus ass and really wouldn't understand the American way of "The Right to Bear Arms" and I don't believe I'm alone in that feeling. In England you do it differently. You also used to line up in a straight line and shoot at your enemy. We needed to show you a better way. This subject is a serious issue to be discussed by people who get the other side's reasoning and are willing to do some horse trading. I'm afraid Piers Morgan has no business in that discussion. Piers, if you're serious about going back to England, don't let the Statue of Liberty hit you in the ass on the way out. BYE!!!
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I know this is an old blog but WOW!! I felt compelled to leave a message....
I am not someone that likes guns and I do not own one. I am a nurse by profession and value every life. I never considered myself on one side or the other of the arms control issues but....How stupid can half of the U.S. population be?? If you take away the right to bear arms....SERIOUSLY think of the outcome of that. All this would achieve is leaving the law abiding citizens of the U.S. unarmed and defenseless. I can tell you for an absolute fact that the criminals will still get their weapons!! If I were a school teacher and cornered in my classroom with 25 innocent children looking to me to protect them....YOUR DAMN STRAIGHT I WOULD WANT A GUN IN MY HAND WHEN THE PSYCHOPATH CAME CRASHING THROUGH MY DOOR!!! I might not save them or myself but at least we would have had a fighting chance. Imagine if it were your child standing behind that teacher, would you not want to give your child that chance of living??? This debate is just so mind blowing to me! Arming teachers would be the quick fix and if the politicians don't want to approach such a hot topic, then shell out the money to remodel every elementary, middle, high school and every college in the U.S. with a safe room!!
I have moved back to Canada. We have no guns, except hunting rifles, in our possession. Yes criminals get guns...mostly from the US. Our murder rate is approximate 100th, on a per capita basis than the US. Of all the countries in the developed world, the US is the most violent. More peace loving people get murdered, per capita, than all other developed countries combined. The US has more innocents murdered than tribal nations, which we look at horrifically. Arming teachers? Insanity?
To all Americans...I love your country and have spent a great amount of time with you. Do you have any idea what it is like to live knowing that your neighbor, no matter how crazy he is, has no gun. Do you know what it is like going anywhere in you big cities without fear.
Lately, I have been looking at the history of decadent countries....that is the US today. There are groups in the US today that are thinking like Hitler did in the early twenties. They are frightening and so should you be scared of their growth.
The US is the last developed country that still murders people under the name Capital Punishment. How many INNOCENT people have been murdered by the state in the US. It is in your, excuse my language, warped mentality that "an eye for an eye" is what you believe in. A modern terrorist thinks that way and we state that he is crazy and his actions are unfathomable. Does he look familiar? Look at your mentality regarding human life, and you will realize that the US is now the most barbaric country in the developed world.
Please, the US has so much to offer the world. It did in the past. Most gun owners are great people. Believe me, you have been brainwashed by the gun lobby and you are in a place you do not want to be.
I am a senior citizen. An average Joe. You have one of the greatest presidents ever in Obama. He is a breath of fresh air from past leaders who favored their friends and colleague.Obama appears to care for the everyone. I have always believed that a country is as strong and healthy as the weakest in their midst. You may interpret this as socialism...caring is loving. We cannot quash the drive of the creative mind.
Please wake up before you drive your country to ruin. How sad that would be.
So well written & well thought out
Sensible for a knee jerk reaction. Have you ever worked in a school? Some of the teachers are pretty stressed out & not always well balanced. Your scenario is appealing. Explain to me how that would work on an everday basis? Will the teacher need a holster like a cop or will ithe gun be in a locked box with amunition safely stored separately? No I guess they have to be loaded and ready 100% of the time.
What about that deliquent; oppositional, defiant kid? Not too hard to wrestle the gun out of a nerdy teacher's holster eh?
Back to the drawing board nurse
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