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March 6th, 2013
02:13 PM ET

Clips From Last Night: Founders of Evolve talk about "irresponsible behavior related to guns" and a proud gun owner quits NRA

On Tuesday evening, "Piers Morgan Tonight" welcomed to the program Rebecca Bond and Jon Bond. The founders of the organization "Evolve" shared with Piers Morgan their alternative method of enacting change in the sentiment towards guns in America, by working with the NRA.

"Our fight isn't against guns. Our fight is against irresponsible behavior related to guns," said Rebecca Bond. "And so by coming at it from, first and foremost we start with saving a life. So if most people in this country can agree on one thing to begin with and that is to save a life, then we can start from a common ground."

Jon Bond explained the need for gun owners to work with them side by side:

"We need people who own guns to accept our organization," he said. "And if we make them feel bad about them self or they see they're being attacked, then they push back and are intransient. So we need to be inclusive."

Also on the program, attorney James Corley joined Morgan and explained why he is no longer an NRA member. Corley owns 38 guns and used one to shoot and kill a robber at the ACOA Club in Columbia, South Carolina in 2009.

"Because all you ever hear about is fund-raising, for what purpose, I'm not really sure," said Corley about his frustration with the NRA.

"I think there is a disconnect. I don't think they're communicating," said Corley. "They communicate through three magazines and some select mailings. All of which are just basically soliciting funds for whatever, you know, they happen to be pushing at the moment. I'm not really sure what they're pushing."

Watch the clips and listen to the interviews as Corley tells Morgan, "You're going to get a lot more gun safety in a concealed weapons permit class here in South Carolina," than in the NRA's marksmanship program.
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  1. Gary

    I am a proud Gun Owner, and everytime I hear the NRA jump into the gun debate I shutter at their response. Instead of having an open dialog, they reort to attacks, but neither side knows how to have a difficult conversation. THe Anti-Gun side just lobs attacks at the pro-gun side and by our very nature we're prone to defend ourselves. Choosing your words carefully is an understatment with this debate, and both sides fail miserably. However, the NRA, and the gun supporting right, tend to throw more rhetoric around, or push the discussion onto something completely off topic because they can't form an adequate response because of their charged up nature so they revert to an attack stance and verbiage to get their point across. This is not how conversations are held. IIn fact my whole comment can apply to the Government as a whole, but with this case, specifically both sides need to go back to communication 101.

    March 6, 2013 at 2:58 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • commiebash

      Sure you are a "Proud gun owner"....Right... You are a LIAR. With an AGENDA.

      March 6, 2013 at 8:52 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • some guy

        I hope you and your kind stop such a lust for guns before you turn your excellent country into Somalia or Afghanistan, where every one owns a gun. I hope you understand that among those 1000s of members who have joined the NRA in december, some are complete imbeciles who are capable of massacres like sandy hook and when they do you will be morally responsible if not legally. Lastly, I sincerely hope, you realize that your lust for guns can turn around and bite you when your lust for guns and your children's curiosity might cause an incident which you may regret for the rest of your life. I hope some of what im saying has sunk in and at least you will support a assault weapons ban.

        March 7, 2013 at 10:20 am | Report abuse |
  2. SouthernGent

    One gun owner quits the NRA.

    250,000 gun owners join the NRA as new members since December.

    Guess which one CNN runs a story on. Good grief.

    March 6, 2013 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • cr

      But even the person who appeared on Mogan's show last night who quit the NRA doesn't agree with an AR15 ban. He might not be an NRA member but he's still a pro-gun advocate.

      March 6, 2013 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • some guy

      I hope you and your ilk and kind stop such a lust for guns before you turn your excellent country into Somalia or Afghanistan, where every one owns a gun. I hope you understand that among those 1000s of members who have joined the NRA in december, some are complete imbeciles who are capable of massacres like sandy hook and when they do you will be morally responsible if not legally. Lastly, I sincerely hope, you realize that your lust for guns can turn around and bite you when your lust for guns and your children's curiosity might cause an incident which you may regret for the rest of your life. I hope some of what im saying has sunk in and at least you will support a assault weapons ban.

      March 7, 2013 at 10:19 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Ichiro

        Unless you go to crime-ridden neighborhoods, like certain parts of Chicago, New York or D.C. (where ironically have the strictest gun-control and prove that it doesn’t work), you have a hundred times higher chances of being killed in a car accident. 2000 kids die in car accidents in any given year. Are you going to give up driving now? Otherwise you are morally responsible for their deaths, if not legally.

        March 7, 2013 at 12:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Scare The Pilgrims

        Assault Weapons- ??????? Semi-Automatic Firearms Technology Started with John Moses Browning and the Auto-5 shotgun . I think the 1911 .45 acp Semi-auto pistol came next. If I'm wrong,,so what.. there is no such thing as an assault weapon. They exist in the feeble mids of people who can't fix a bicycle. The chance for any laws passed > ZERO,,
        as far as buying any Semi-Auto's or ammunition ?? Hell,,, there all gone ,,,sold ,,and backorders have machinery at the Firearms manufacturing plants whirring away..CONGRADULATIONS. 7 -days -a -week-3-shifts-per-day..Guns-Magazines-And Ammunition manufacturing plants – money hand over fist- AMERICANS INVESTING IN AMERICAS FUTURE.

        March 7, 2013 at 2:43 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Amy

    Dear Piers Morgan, Its a losing battle my friend. Piers Morgan you make it worse.
    Alot more U.S.Citizens joining NRA, 70% rise in three months! FireArms sells went up 80% in some States.
    Alot of people think your crazy and hateful. My blood pressure gets to high
    watching Piers Morgan. BRING BACK LARRY KING!

    The Second Amendment
    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed!!!!!

    March 6, 2013 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • fayray11

      98.5% of us are NOT NRA members and anyone who agrees with them is not a responsible gun owner. I left them years ago. I am a hunters and have a FFL, which makes me an obvious gun owner who you would think supports the actions of the NRA. However, I do not and actually think they are hurting the rest of us gun owners and reducing the future of guns here.

      March 6, 2013 at 3:19 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • SRS

        "I am a hunters and have a FFL..." Really? Something makes me think you are not a "hunters" and don't even know what "an" FFL is.

        March 6, 2013 at 10:41 pm | Report abuse |
  4. wiseup

    wiseupThe NRA kis balking at some common sense issues without banning any weapons. Limit ammo clips at 10 and require that ALL gun buyers do a background check. Not only at licensed gun shops but at all gun shows, over internet or private sales as well. Any seller who does not do a background check on a purchase of a gun and that gun is used to kill someone ,that seller should be charged as an accessary to that murder. A background check may have revealed that buyer had a felony recordand would have been rejected the purchase. had the backgroung check pased him fine. At least you did backgroung check and covered your &ss.

    March 6, 2013 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Luke

      piers morgan does not reflect the views of the majority of the UK. please keep him, we hate him...

      March 7, 2013 at 4:01 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Tedd

        Good to hear that... but please take him... I beg you...

        March 7, 2013 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • cricket

      Always remember, criminals never concern themselves with laws. Banning anything from honest folk put them in jeopardy of the criminal element and allows the criminal element more freedom to do their dirty work with less fear.

      March 7, 2013 at 10:42 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Nae

      Faleh Hassan Almaleki, an Iraqi immigrant, struck and killed his daughter Noor Almaleki with his car and also injured her boyfriend's mother Amal Khalaf. Noor had shunned an arranged marriage, and was living with her boyfriend and his mother, police said. Enraged Almaleki hid in the parking lot waiting for her and her boyfriend's mother and then "revved and raced that car right into them."

      Are you gonna hold the car dealership, who sold Almaleki the car, accountable for his crime?

      March 7, 2013 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  5. Brian Williams

    Half you idiots can't even spell much less rationalize anything regarding firearms. Piers Morgan leads the way!

    March 6, 2013 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Chris Campbell

      443000 Americans die from tobacco use. 49000 which are from second hand. Why doesnt Piers Morgan lead the way on that debate if he really wants to save American lives.

      March 6, 2013 at 11:11 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • E

        When are such obtuse people going to get it into their thick skulls?

        Smoking or not using a seat belt in a car are PERSONAL choices. We get to choose to be irresponsible and pay for our OWN consequences.

        Getting a bullet through the chest or brain are choices inflicted and forced by OTHERS, most of the time. We pay for the irresponsibility of OTHERS and suffer THEIR consquences.

        March 6, 2013 at 11:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • Eugene

        @E
        What? Do you by any chance think not wearing seat belt is the only cause of death in car accidents? And do you know what “secondhand” means? When are such obtuse people going to get it into their thick skulls...

        March 7, 2013 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Eugene

      Oh, believe me, there are plenty of idiots in the anti-gun crowd that can’t spell nor can they put a coherent sentence together. sm980268, where are you? We miss you!

      March 7, 2013 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  6. Chuck

    We are not giving up our gun rights.

    you are just wasting your time, and our patience.

    No go do some real good and Lecture your people in your homeland, they
    need it

    March 6, 2013 at 4:13 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  7. Tehran BOLDON

    Thank you Mr Morgan for bringing issues related to getting what I feel has become epidemic. this story about my Brother Michael 's tragic and senseless death. Please , please , please take a moment to think of how together we can recreate an American society that will dramatically improve the quality of life of those most effected and disenfranchised. We all must have STRICT GUN REQUIREMENTS. We can start with banning the sale of assault rifles ,high capacity magazines,armour piercing ammunition and requiring not only stringent background checks but also periodic registration and gun owners liability insurance . Please support any legislation in favor of helping us get this catastrophic situations plaguing our cities and this nation under control . For the sake of lives take a stand of action so no other family's suffers Tehran

    March 6, 2013 at 5:28 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • cr

      If countries like Switzerland, Germany and France can live with high levels of gun ownership and some of lowest homicide rates on the planet, then what does it say about our society? The high homicide rate we have in this country isn't driven by the number of guns we own but by our frighteningly large and ever growing inequality gap. In Western Europe you don't see the extreme levels of poverty we have here.

      March 6, 2013 at 5:58 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • cricket

      I repeat:

      Always remember, criminals never concern themselves with laws. Banning anything from honest folk put them in jeopardy of the criminal element and allows the criminal element more freedom to do their dirty work with less fear.

      March 7, 2013 at 10:45 am | Report abuse | Reply
  8. Chris Campbell

    443k Amercians DIE from tobacco anually. 49k from second hand smoke. This is just one example of many others that could be debated if its saving American lives everybody wants to talk about. AR-15 deaths are a tiny percentage of these numbers and the remaining gun related deaths are a fraction of these numbers. The gun debate is absurd especially if Piers Morgan and some old hag senator is leading the way. Wake up!

    March 6, 2013 at 11:16 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • raulisodo

      Well, smoking bans are quite popular these days... careful what you wish for – you may get it.

      March 7, 2013 at 12:22 am | Report abuse | Reply
  9. Liam

    Piers Morgan is sharp, he should run for Congress.

    March 7, 2013 at 3:45 am | Report abuse | Reply
  10. kpjenk21

    Hey Pierce, i just ordered an AR... just thought you'd like to know..also, i hope your show fails miserable one day just like you said to the fellow who allows guns in his pizza shop for a dicount. Go back to your country you worthless puke

    March 7, 2013 at 6:55 am | Report abuse | Reply
  11. Rob

    I see my last post for this issue never made it on here for some reason. I guess the Challange of Mr. Morgan taking on a person with a IQ higher then his and his Guest was to much for him to take. So here is my input once again Piers Morgan You should go back or stick to Dancing because you dance around every issue.Here is the Bottom Line Up Front (BLUF) I would never use any AR 15 or Semi auto Pistol, Shotgun in any Assault. I spent 24 years in the Military and Civilian duplicates can not handle the use they get. So to call them Assault weapons is... well you know. Another thing 90% of all Gun crimes are done with Illegally owned weapons. So what needs to be done is stiffer punishment on the ones who illegally deal and purchase. I am an Independant the crazy liberals would take every right unless it was to smoke weed and other things that destroy the mind and body.I am a Gun owner and teach my kids about safety, what guns are ment for (Hunting target practice and self defence) it is an equalizer in todays world. and anyway do you think any ban effects the criminal? No so get you and your Hollywierd Friends together and Fight a real problem like quit giving everything for free to people that are a burden on the US. Fight Laziness not something I fought for in Iraq, Kuwait, Honduras. my right to own purchase and use my weapons. The NRA are like Unions if you do away with the NRA then Do away with the Unions. Oh sorry that is the way you liberals get elected.

    March 7, 2013 at 9:49 am | Report abuse | Reply
  12. Scare The Pilgrims

    THE PIERS MORGAN FANS ON THESE BOARDS ARE PLANTS PUT IN PLACE FROM CNN'S COMPUTERS. NO WAY ON EARTH A REAL AMERICAN CAN RELATE TO THIS W E I N I E .

    March 7, 2013 at 2:53 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  13. Scare The Pilgrim

    The 1st Time I ever Laid Eyes On Piers Morgan was The Day Of The Sandy Hook Horror. I was Chanel Surfing and 2 hours after the last shot was fired I caught it on the news on my TV screen. I watched Piers Morgan that evening for the 1st time. Ask Phil Donahue what its like Piers. I saw his last show . The show that was his last because the network Cancelled his show. There was Sarah Brady, her Handgun Control Inc. Attorney, Stephen Hallbrook Attorney / NRA I believe paid part of his fee to represent the 4 law-enforcement officers on Phils last show who Mr. Donahue Badgered and threatened with jail for not enforcing Federal Brady Background checks...Stephen Hallbrook WON THAT VERY LAWSUIT just a few weeks later in the Supreme Court,,keep it up Piers....your next. Sherriffs do not have to do background checks with NO FEDERAL FUNDS to pay them for their time. No B.A.T.F. to speak of. 2000 agents for all 50 states ??? hang in there .. I'm raising catfish this year,,from Andry's in Birdeye, Indiana. Fish truck rolls thru in April.

    March 7, 2013 at 3:53 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  14. Tedd

    Anger management classes for bullet buyers?????
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/faleh-hassan-almaleki-muslim-man-accused-murdering-daughter-honor-killing-found-guilty-article-1.120604#ixzz2Mse2x5zI

    We oughta vote out those arrogant nonsensical politicians, otherwise we are doomed.

    March 7, 2013 at 7:01 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  15. Tedd

    Sorry, posted a wrong link...

    Anger management classes for bullet buyers?????

    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/america-live/index.html#http://video.foxnews.com/v/2209770105001/anger-management-classes-for-bullet-buyers/?playlist_id=87651

    We oughta vote out those arrogant nonsensical politicians, otherwise we are doomed.

    March 7, 2013 at 7:05 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  16. Joel

    Why not show the entire clip? Mr. Corley talked about an instance where he had to use his gun for self defense, how things could have gone differently if he had not had his weapon then, and why he still carries a gun. Piers Morgan had no choice but to agree.

    March 13, 2013 at 1:45 am | Report abuse | Reply
  17. Gloria Cadet

    Dear Mr Piers Morgan,

    I have cable tv and when I surf the channels all I see are cars beiing overturned, houses exploding, people with assault weapons killing dinosaurs and vampires sucking blood. It's no wonder that unstable people watching all these programmes go out and buy assault weapons and kill people.

    It's time to remove guns from sale in America and return to acceptable tv programmes for people to watch

    A case in point is the present programme "The Following". Is there anything more insane to show the public? If this show doesn't incite unstable people to violence then I'm a monkeys uncle.

    March 13, 2013 at 7:36 am | Report abuse | Reply
  18. Paul

    Piers
    You asked if the pro gun control folks should start with advertising tactics like those used by MADD. I think you missed the point of the MADD commercials. The reason MADD has been successful is that they focus on the real problem. They focus on the problem people and the problem behaviors, not the inanimate object (alcohol). Do you think MADD would have been successful if they had fought for banning alcohol? Or banning certain types of alcohol? That would have never worked. Instead, they focus on the people who abuse alcohol and focus on the criminal behavior of drinking and driving. They never talk about limiting what kind of alcohol people can buy or how much they can buy, or even how much they can drink. They only focus on the bad behaviors that can result. Trying to ban alcohol or certain types of alcohol would be a miserable failure. Refer to the prohibition times in America.

    So, if we wanted to have more effective conversations and ads that would get more people on both sides talking, then start focusing on the real problems. Criminal behavior with guns and the criminals themselves. Gun owners will naturally resist when the discussion focuses on banning guns or certain types of guns, just like responsible or social drinkers would resist a ban on alcohol or certain types of alcohol. A gun is a tool that in the wrong hands can be destructive, but in the right hands can save lives. Alcohol is a drink that in the wrong hands can be destructive, and actually destroys more lives than guns. More people are killed each year in alcohol related driving accidents than are people murdered by guns. More people are killed with blunt force objects (i.e. baseball bat) than are killed by rifles; rifles of any kind.

    Focus on the real issues, and you will see the two sides come together.

    April 3, 2013 at 11:24 pm | Report abuse | Reply

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