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Amidst the aftermath of the dramatic courtroom conclusion which saw the jury in the George Zimmerman trial return a "not guilty" verdict, on Monday evening Piers Morgan invited Rachel Jeantel to join him in studio for a face to face conversation.
With a live audience hanging on every word, Jeantel listened intently as the "Piers Morgan Live" host rolled a video clip from earlier in the evening, in which CNN's Anderson Cooper conducted his own exclusive interviewwith the juror known simply as B37:
"I think she felt inadequate toward everyone because of her education and her communication skills," said the juror, speaking about Jeantel. "I just felt sadness for her."
Admitting to feeling "angry" and "upset" after hearing herself described that way, Morgan's guest defended her character:
"When the state closed they're trying to explain what kind of person I am. And you can see the kind of person I am," she explained. "Out of the whole stand I never cussed out Don [West]. Even during our little back - since March."
Having seen her courtroom nemesis, the man who aggressively cross-examined her doing the trial, in the CNN hallway earlier in the evening, Jeantel took the high road:
"I'll hold it back. The only reason I have not said anything to Don Weston [sic] because my parents taught me better. As an adult you don't have the right to disrespect an adult," she explained. "Don't curse - okay I did give attitude."
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Pierce, I like your great passion to african americans! But have some respect for US law and a jury too!
Geo: I have great passion for people that are not lily white, but please stop with African Americans. Nobody living in this country right now, today, is African American unless they were born in Africa and moved to America and got citizenship here. To the rest of the people with more pigment in their skin, you are doing a great disservice to all by dividing this country and that is the whole problem.
Sorry to offend you, whoever you are. I was talking about Pierce and his Nnacy Grace – like shows. Also about his hate tawards american laws and justice system Those shows brain wash people like you and get you guys hatefull
What do you want to be called...black then?
Lizzy you have serious social issues. Geo's reply to you was right on the money. Simply reading your response it clearly indicates that you are simply too intellectually deprived to understand diversity in this country. When I refer to diversity I am NOT just suggesting skin tone.
Jax...really? What do you want to be called? Its clear that Geo like any other US citizen would like to be referred to as an American. Do we refer to others Americans for instance as Caucasians Americans? Latino Americans.....Asian Americans....Jax take a break and get a better understanding of the social dynamics of this country before commenting.
How about the term White? How divisive is that word?
another classic example of the media starting trouble and fueling the fire. The juror DID NOT say RJ was uneducated. What she said was that she felt RJ felt intimated by her education/personal skills and that she felt bad for her. Pierce immediately jumped on the chance to ask RJ "how does that make you feel that the juror said you were uneducated"?
c Rogers, were we listening to the same juror member she called Rachel uneducated.
Seriously, I can't believe the arrogance of Piers Morgan that he sits there and twists the intention of the jurors word to basically ridicule this girl to her face and watch her reaction. This guy's quality as a journalist is similar to that of a tabloid. Where's the real Will McAvoy?
not talking about problem does not make it go away. It lays in the shadows and festers when; then where there is a stimulus it erupts! I submit that the killing of a teen by an adult was the stimulus . the media didn't cause or isn't stirring this mess! Race is a factor in American life! Always has been but I hope that someday it won't be....
C. Rodgers you "heard" what you wanted to. The juror DID say she was uneducated and felt sorry for her. Unbelievable but quite understandable when the juror actually "believed" an animated demonstration regarding the death of this teenager.
What they should have done was imagine being on the phone with a close friend, then finding out he was killed 1 minute after you last heard his voice. Not only the shock of losing a friend but thinking maybe if you or said did something different,
he would still be alive. Now add the international media coverage.
C Roger, the juror did indicate that RJ was uneducated and even offered sympathy for this. I believe you're smart enough to recognize a candid way of making a statement because one is to coward to say just how he/she feels.
Rachel IS uneducated.
Shame on Mr. Morgan having such an invalid and information-less circus of a show. Shame on CNN for calling itself a news channel. They should have asked the young lady what type of judicial system she would prefer.
Those that do not accept the outcome of the trial should vote for a fascist candidate that will promote execution on the whim of the public, and eliminate the judicial system all together.
Agreed. well said,this type of continued media coverage serves no purpose but to continue to stir the pot & divide our country.. and not deal with the the real issues.
Your way of thinking signals in psychology what we call denial. People of your character are in denial. They are ethnocentric and ignore that the United State is populated by a multi-ethnic society. Who dare you to judge Piers Morgan. He is a great Journalist because he is impartial. He is aware that America is a multicultural society. You need a lesson in cultural diversity to better understand other people of different background living in the US. It seems to me that you only see Caucasian as Americans . I Compare you to juror, B-37 who did not deserve to be part of a jury because she is bias. She thinks Rachel Jeantel is ignorant and at the end of the day, Jury B-37 is the one who needs knowledge in cultural diversity. Rachel Jeantel knows more about American culture than her. I compare her to you Waloso.. your are living in a Caucasian nest and ignore and disrespect other cultures around you.
Pierce doesn't truly care he is just trying to keep his show going.
Americans can have respect for the law but voice opposition to the selection of an all white (except one hispanic) jury to hear the case. Jury members have prejudices just like all Americans. What made me angry with this jury member, was her references to Jeantel and saying that they didn't give any credibility to her testimony because she's not educated and didn't understand a lot of the phrases she used. Then she made mention of that's the way "they" talk where "they" come from and their environment. You've got white women on the jury that think highly of themselves because of their husbands jobs. Her husband was a lawyer (you can imagine the types of conversations they had at their kitchen table about young blacks). She was pro defense and pro gun rights from the time the jury deliberated and you know her mouth was running to change the others minds. She said gave more weight to the uninvolved neighbor saying they were afraid from the breakins from blacks than Jeantel. I just felt the tones of racism and bias feelings towards young blacks from "their environment'. I can respect the law, but not this jury member. And Trayvon didn't stand a chance for justice with this all white and hispanic jury.
Umm so white people make up 72% of the population, therefore in a 6 person jury there should be 4 white jurors. Being off by one is not that bad of a miss. The ideal REPRESENTATIVE jury in this case would have been 4 white people, 1 black person, and 1 hispanic person. The jury really wasn't too far off of being representative
What does a jury of mostly white women have anything to do with their ability to judge an alleged crime by a Hispanic man against a black man? And how do you know what these women think, how they live or what they believe? Now if the jury had been full of Hispanic men or black men the questioning its makeup would be a valid point.
when ive heard her talking the first time,i did not believe her,here is why: she tried too hard to makeTreyvon look and sound too good…ex;he was a child..he was never aggresive..he only smoked weed twice a week..he was chill…he only wanted to come home..and on and on,makes it too hard to believe that he was a stand up citizen when your own family and friends describe you cause they try hard to make you look good…and then when she was ask what does "cracka" means she said..oh..thats nothing..just a men..we call any men "cracka" really?? i know blacks call ONLY white men that..then Pierce ask her do you smoke weed?? of course she said NOOO..not me..really?? i only say what i see,and to me it looked like she was trying to hide something,then that thing about she tell him Treyvon to run cause they tought Zimmerman might be a rapist??? really?? come on!! a 17 yo boy is not a baby…Kobe went to the NBA at 17
@Jeremy – learn FL demographics: The largest Florida racial/ethnic groups are White (57.9%) followed by Hispanic (22.5%) and Black (15.2%).
Great post here, I too heard a lot of disregard for Rachel and the statements that she made which should have been crucial in the decision making process of the jury. She was the one on the phone with Trayvon, she could testify as to why he was trying to get away from someone who was stalking him. The juror said she believed everything GZ said about the case and that is why she voted the way she did. It's sad but there is no understanding of what the kid was thinking, no idea that he might have been afraid of GZ and the juror did not recognize Trayvon's right to "Stand his Ground!", after being stalked by GZ for no reason.
My comments are solely based on my opinion of the jury member's interview. When a grown adult lady wants to disregard a teenager's testimony because she's "uneducated", then I question whether or not she is racist. I doubt she would have said that about Defense Attorney's West's two blond haired teenage daughters. And I have little doubt that these older white women (most of them housewives who's husbands had good jobs) would say that they are afraid of a black teenager if they felt like they came from a low income or inner city neighborhood. I'm a white executive and hear this type of talk all the time from my professional co-workers and their spouses. If this is a trial on whether or not the jurors feel like Zimmerman was afraid or not at the time he pulled the trigger, then Trayvon never had a chance for justice with this jury. Doubt they could have got any consensus for conviction with any jury. Fortunately, civil trials don't require a unanimous decision and far less evidence. We'll see what happens.
Dave I could'nt have said it no bettter than u did.
Let's realize that jury selection was done by both the prosecution and the defense. The fact that the jury was made up of 6 women – none of which Black Americans – can be completely attributed to that is what the prosecution wanted. If you want to believe that the trial was not fair because of the jury makeup – blame the prosecution, not the system or the defense.
Our country is so far removed from the American Dream, because we are not able to accept others who are different from us. We maligned Rachel Jeantel, as ignorant because she couldn't speak. She should have been viewed as the immigrant that she is – not as an IGNORANT person. In this video, her attorney was with her to help her through her nerves and this interview. I liked that she was able to remember the teachings of her parents, "To Respect Your Elders" even within the courtroom. Great interview Pierce because it showed Rachel Jeantel as a human being with emotions and respect for her familial upbringing.
piers how dare you put down Rachel just she is stupid, it is the fault of the white teachers she had ,they should have taught her the whites are to blame for everything in the world blacks have been slaves for four hundred years and we want more food stamps and more welfare benefits, and we like to steal and loot and be a thug like little 10 year old trayvon
And even though there was ample evidence that Trayvon was on top of George Z. giving him a good beating, Rachel clearly heard Trayvon say, "Get off, get off." Makes sense to me.
I can't make a commit on this site because it is biased against whites
This is something that just happened a few days ago. Where is the outcry for this man. Please look at this link and see for yourself. Again where is Rev Jackson & Sharpton and such. By the way the man being struck, is a special needs person. Yet NOBODY of color in my community has come foward to condem these actions
Piers Morgan is why I did not become a journalist. To be successful or popular, a journalist MUST sensationalize a subject like he did with gun control and how he's doing with the outcome of a criminal trial. Why cannot people accept the decision of a completely open trial shown on television? The FBI had already investigated this case and did not want to take it up. Piers Morgan - grow up along with Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and others and ACCEPT the verdict. The kid was a thug - no matter what people said - he beat the hell out of Zimmerman. Piers, what if that was YOU laying on your back getting pulmetted on each side of your head and your head bouncing off the concrete.......do you honestly not think you would have felt very, very threatened? And also, how far would Trayvon Martin had gone if he hadn't been shot? Maybe he would have very seriously injured OR killed Zimmerman. The Black community needs to accept the judicial decision and quit trying to make a saint out of the thug kid. Also, Piers Morgan, how do you justify getting so involved in American culture when YOU"RE a bloody Brit ? Go home.......leave America !
I'm still mad at the OJ Simpson verdict but you didn't see me or any other race out protesting.
OJ was found innocent of even killing anyone by the jury but yet lost in a civil court (big time) for wrongful death (which he was found innocent of killing). So lets see what happens when its a known fact that Zimmerman killed Trayvon. A wrongful death appears to easier to win – and will have a different jury.
So as Americans we should just sit back and accept whatever is decided even if we know it to be wrong. Look back to cases like the west memphis three. Three kids convicted of murdering two young boys and preforming satanic rituals with their body. Conviced with not one single shred of evidence. Two were sentenced to life in jail and the third was given the death penalty. They could have sat back and just accepted the verdict, because hey it was an open televised trial so who are they to question it. But they didn't let it go, they pushed for appeal after appeal and they are all free men today. At the same token it is clear that Zimmerman messed up here and should have been found guilty. Okay so Martin supposedly had a history of gang related activity, but there is nothing that says that he was doing anything wrong that night. You can bet your ass that if some guy followed me in his car, got out of that car and started following me on foot, and came at me with a gun that I would try to get away too, and if I couldn't I would beat him within an inch of his life to escape. Anyone who says they would do otherwise is a liar.
Yeah because that's what happened. Trayvon ran away and George hunted him down until Trayvon had to fight for his life. Did you not watch the trial at all?
Well said Bill.
bill- quite obvious we we're watching 2 different trials.. its not against the law to follow someone especially in a gated community..why did it turn violent? unfortunately, this is the answer/choice to many young male adults (black, white or any other color) .. his own friend testified that he was angry not afraid and that GZ asked him what he was doing there? She never said that TM said he had a gun at that point! his answer was by way of a fist and "beat down". Maybe if he had some respect and made a different, better choice in how to handle the situation he would be here today so thats where we should try to start to change.. the mindset of handling confrontations, the gun was drawn as a last resort. And TM history of fighting, gang activity and behavior should have and does weigh in on the choice he made..while tragic, he was 17 and he knew right from wrong but chose the wrong path in this situation.
There was no evidence of Trayvon being involved in gang related activity. Trayvon was not on trial. Zimmerman was found "not guilty" not because he was "not guilty", but because there weren't any witnesses other than the young man he killed, to what actually happened. He could have physically grabbed Trayvon to keep him from getting away; could have thrown him to the ground and Trayvon managed to free himself and get on top of Zimmerman before any witnesses appeared on scene. But Zimmerman was tried by an all white and hispanic jury. Americans have the right to free speech and most likely have the right to post Zimmerman's whereabouts on social media for the rest of his life.
Dean – You obviously did not watch the trial with an open mind to the FACTS.
There was absolutely NO EVIDENCE that Trayvon was "hunted" down. Followed to a point, absolutely.
The FACT is Trayvon had more then 4 minutes to walk 50 yards home, that is a FACT.
He chose to confront GZ, FACTS, Thank God these jurors used common sence, they knew it was GZ's voice screaming, even after all the lies from the Martin family that it was Trayvon. You cannot convict somebody based on emotion. Do I wish GZ made better decisions that night? ofcourse! Do I wish Travon made netter decisions that night? Ofcourse!
The one thing people are not speaking about is that Trayvon had every "right" to protect himself. How many of us if we're out after dark in the rain and we see someone following us. If they appoach you, are you just going to let them come at you and not defend yourself. If I'm going down I'm going down fighting. Stand your ground should go both ways. And race is in the play. If this was a black man and he shot an unarmed white boy he would be under the jail, and you know that's right.
defend against what? questions? TM wasn't afraid .. he was angry..according to the "credible" witness RJ..GZ asked him why he was there..it was a gated community that had been burglarized many times recently. listening to the interview that Piers morgan thought it was important to air with RJ only convinced me more that these young adults/teenagers feel its ok to smoke pot afew times a week, and use vulgarity, racist names and "whoop ass' when questioned.. and then it becomes a media circus b/c a man who was not raised like that, and is trying to protect his neighbors (of many races), and then must defend himself b/c he feared for his lfe? Seriously?
At what point do you stop calling the police? If your house was broken into four times, would you not take some form of action? If you are not from that neighborhood, you are suspect..period. People keep flinging this profiling word around. If I saw two white guys standing on a street corner looking over their shoulders, and one reached into hos pocket and gave the other one something I would think it is meth. If I was a cop, I would think the same. It could be a piece of chewing gum. It's the environment we live in. The unicorns and fairies are all gone. They apparently moved to England (according to Piers).
What makes him a thug? Please give me your definition of a thug? I am a grown man and if some stranger comes and grabs me I going to defend myself. Zimmerman got beat down because he didn't identify himself. Have you ever been in a fight before? Zimmerman's head was not bashed into the concrete 12 times because he would have had a concussion. They had a fight he probably slipped and fell and a teenager was getting the best of him and he lost his cool. Those little scapes he had comes from a fight. I seen worst than that at bar fights from people of all races. His little abrasions are consistent with a fight. You perpetuate a sterotype and need to get out and see the world and education yourself.
I don't care if Trayvon was a thug, pimp,or pot head, that robot cop had no right to gun him down, The robot cop wanted to be the hero of the neighbor, but insist he is a ZERO. Killing a 17 yr old unarmed black male, And it is only one word that can decribe juro rB37 RACIST.
Piers seems to be baiting the fire. What's up?
RATINGS. Unfortunately, there are those viewers who cannot see past the obvious attempt to stir things up just for the sake of being watched – with no regard for the damage it does.
Piers, you are a terrible journalist. All you do is stir the race pot. You try and turn every issue into a race issue to boost your ratings. You should be ashamed of yourself. You are dividing our nation. Go home.
You sir are a disgrace to journalism. Please consider packing up and going back to the UK. I am sure the readers of The Sun would appreciate your sensational reporting where the facts don't seem to matter. Report facts or don't report.
Piers needs to rethink his line of questioning here...is he frustrated that he didn't get to interview a juror. The jury has spoken and in our country we have to respect that.
The trial is over. Both sides had to agree to the jury panel. The Prosecution could have asked to have anyone excused. RACE was not the issue with the JURY!
On Rachel: Is it me or does she always look stoned? OPEN YOUR EYES!
On the verdict: It is what it is. Was OJ really not guilty? I won't debate this with anyone. I was not upset with that verdict or with this one. This is the legal system we all rely on..
Was Zimnmerman a racist? Don't know nor do I care! Did he make a poor decision leaving his car? ABSOLUTELY.... Did he murder Travon Martin? We will never really know as only one of them is here to tell his side of the story.
But one thing did irritate me about this entire trial. It was the way that Travon was portrayed as the young child. The pics shown by the media showed him at what appeared to be an age of 12, maybe 13. He apparently had a past of drugs and fighting.... it appears he was NOT the innocent young man he was made out to be....
One man has changed his life forever and ended the life of another. Is it Zimmermans fault entirely? ABSOLUTELY NOT! It is a combination of his own reaction along with how our society has evolved.
Now I am not a racist. I have Spanish friends, African American friends, European friends and of course my caucasian friends. More of my friends are considered minorities (Black and Hispanic) . There is no public outcry when a black kills a black, or a black kills a white, or a Hispanic kills a black. Why is this such a big deal? Murder is MURDER!
Lets rationalize this as a SOCIETY ISSUE, remove the RACE CARD and cure the problem by raising our children to be better people and work together to stop ALL of the VIOLENCE!
Think of how you reasoned when you were 17 years old. It don't necessary matter how you looked, fat, thin, tall or short you were 17. And it is the same for late Trayvon Martin, he was 17years old with pictures in the media or no pictures. A teenager is a teenager regardless
many teenagers are tried as adults based on the decision they make.
You got everything right except one thing. You do not have to justify yourself by naming your minority friends. It pokes holes in all of these media slimeballs and politicians and "community activists" (isn't that a play on words.) If you have to "prove" you are not a racist than anything besides your word, then they are the ones who have an issue. Isn't that the same thing as a cop pulling a group of black teens over because the color of their skin? You are white, therefore, you must prove your neutrality, hey black kids, you get a hall pass. Hypocrisy from beginning to end. Am I the only one who sees this? I would fly at my own expense to debate Piers Morgan.
Mr. Morgan is again attempting to revive his show. He has stated his views against guns. Those are his views. The softball questions to th young lady could have been answered by a baby. No disrespect to Ms. J, . But lets be very clear the world is Not against Black People. The media i.e. HLN as such would not be on the air if they did not create the news. The operative word is create, they do not report it. I ask Mr. morgan how he vetted his info. Mr. Morgan if I could find this info why didn;t you or your large staff?
Just check out this link and maybe use your so called power to get the record from the Miami Board of Ed and PD to get a real prospect of who Trayvon really was.
Piers Morgan is guilty of race baiting. He is arrogant and is contributing to the divide in our county. I watched the interview with Rachel Jeantel. As of July 15, 2013, I will no longer watch his program. Good Luck Cnn!
Piers needs to go back to England anyway...
I totally agree with your comments. I don't respect Pierce Morgan as a journalist and as a result, I don't view CNN as an unbiased, reliable news source. I will NOT be tuning into CNN, EVEN when there are nothing but commericals on other stations. In a nutshell, watching muted commericals is preferable to what's being passed off as "news" on CNN.
Nancy Grace is the "Jerry Springer" of justice.
The juror did not say you (Rachel) were stupid. I believe was meant was none of the education you received prepared you being placed in the court room as you were. I feel I'm educated enough to hold my own in most situations, but no way would be able to in the court and attorney 'world'! I do, however, think you (Rachel) need to open your mind to what the juror and anyone else who has said something you don't like or agree with. Just as you expect, almost demand they do when it comes to you, Trayvon, and your 'generation's' way(s). Yours is not the only way.
Just because you disagree, does not make you right.
Personal note: don't have the surgery, is part of 'you', and actually, those who are your friends, family, partner... probably think is an enduring 'cute' part of 'you'.
I like what you just said in this post. Jeantel is who she is but do you know the Juror did not understand her. she was not clear to them, her communication was not clear to them. They kept quiet about it until after the verdict. Yet she was the star witness!! They should have asked for an Interpreter.
I still can't understand a word she is saying.
Dawn, she is not smart. She lied in court, and she cannot read well. A (black), I shouldn't have to mention that, but in this country, and on this issue, apparently that has more credibility, wrote an op-ed piece the day after she took the stand and he said it wasn't a race issue, or a generational one. It is an educational issue. Apparently the highschool she attended performs in the bottom quarter of reading, writing and math. I was looking for the stats, but it isn't good. Is it the school systems fault? Maybe. Regardless of what the teachers are doing for you, if you replaced just a little bit of "hanging" out time with some enlightenment time, watching news, reading, I bet you would advance yourself. That really speaks to all kids, not just the school in Miami.
Rachel Jantel was a very sympathetic person and I felt a great empathy for her. She is a human being as such has to be respected as is the right for all people regardless of race or background. However, I find that Piers Morgan is an abomination to journalism. He is stoking the race card here for his purposes whatever they may be. I agree with Robert Zimmerman who so much as said that Morgan was smearing the brother, George. Good journalism is shown by Anderson Cooper who asks question with no pre conceived notions. Piers Morgan is one of those who refuses to accept the verdict which was open and televised with no visible overtones as Morgan would have you believe. Would Morgan have felt the same way with the OJ trial where an almost wholly black jury acquitted OJ in three hours after a trial of many weeks? I want to see justice for ALL people and it does not serve any purpose to further human relations by stoking a reverse lynch mob.
This was SELF DEFENSE, not stand your ground. Piers apparently thinks it's ok for thugs to attack you and you can just stay and take a beating. I say no,....you have a right to defend yourself and if it's with a gun then so be it.
Skittles and iced tea and cough syrup = street drug called "LEAN". Also, why doesn't Piers ever mention Martins cell phone texts and pics?
And what's with the idea we need black juries for blacks? Blacks don't convict other Blacks. Blacks only convict other races. That was obvious in the OJ trial.
Piers is just a liberal. Nothing confusing about the way he thinks. He's an emotion based decison maker like most liberals. They think and decide not on logic or common sense but on emotions. People riot based on emotions as well. Emotion based decision making is very hit or miss. When you are an emotion based thinker you constantly go back to basic elements of thought, sort of like a child thinks. It's not a mature adult way of processing information.
No, Piers is a guy who came to US and wants to teach us how to live here. He forgot that we kicked them Brits out for the very reason that we don't want to live their way. Although I do drink English breakfast tea, I also carry a gun, so if any Travon will attempt to jump me, I know what to do.
Piers is just a C O N S E R V A T I V E . Nothing confusing about the way he thinks. He's an emotion based decison maker like most conservatives . They think and decide not on logic or common sense but on emotions. People riot based on emotions as well. Emotion based decision making is very hit or miss. When you are an emotion based thinker you constantly go back to basic elements of thought, sort of like a child thinks. It's not a mature adult way of processing information.
Works both ways, doesn't it ?
The juror on CNN with Anderson Cooper was VERY intelligent. Very impressive.
Molly West will go down in history as triggering a Department of Justice investigation posting a picture on Twitter of her and her dad and the most racist item identified on camera in this century. How great is today's technology? Too bad it hasn't advanced to sound recognition, but that is coming in our lifetime, identifying Trayvon's screams.
Yeah, having an ice cream with your dad makes you a racist.
Don't forget very white
I thought that Don West was very polite to Rachel Jeantel. He asked her questions about what she heard on her telephone call with Trayvon Martin on 26 Feb 2012, but he was nice about it. It was his job to find whatever answers he could. If Jeantel got made to look like a fool, then it was her own doing, not West's. I mean, really, either "creepy ass cracka" IS a racial comment or it ISN'T. One or the other. And Jeantel said it was... until West pointed out that since Martin made the comment, then all the racism must have been coming from Martin. Oops! Suddenly, "creepy ass cracka" wasn't so racial after all! How do you recognize a liar when you hear one? By identifying statements that are in conflict with each other, with the known evidence, with the laws of logic, or with the laws of nature. The moment Jeantel contradicted herself, it was obvious that she had lied once again.
DID YOU SEE DON WHITE'S DAUGHTERS MOLLY TWITTER PICTURE? Outrage. Absolute outrage. Total outrage.
I know!!!!!! Eating ice cream is just an outrage. And saying "we beat stupidity" how dare she.
Marching in the streets and rioting are perfectly ok though. Sorry Sam but I find your outrage amusing considering the facts in this case.
Don West was more patient than I would have been. I was ready for her to write her answers on a chalkboard as she was not understandable.
Honestly, Piers Morgan and so much of the media is fanning the flames of racism rather than dealing intelligently with facts and the law. Can they be held accountable somehow – please?
(And, by the way, I am not rejoicing in this verdict. This whole mess is a tragedy – there is no innocent person here. There is no criminal culpability – I agree with the jury on that – but that doesn't mean that both of these men couldn't have made better choices that would have prevented the whole thing.)
Did you hear the Juror on Anderson Cooper show?, they didn't understand Jeantel., the star witness. This begs the question????. The Jurors didn't make efforts to make sure the court is aware of that problem. Have seen interpreters in court for people who can't speak or speak different language. If the Jurors felt that they didn't understand Jeantel they should have asked for an interpreter.
I don't think that the court offers an ebonics interpreter? It wasn't because of her speech impediment or medical condition but because she is unable to speak proper English. If you went to a job interview or talked to someone in a professional setting and spoke the way she did, would you be taken seriously or as creditable?
You just nailed my point exactly. This was not a job interview, neither was it an exam. All the juror and the public needed from her was her testimony. "Tell us what happened that day Jeantel".
Mine here is a concern regarding the jurors comment on Anderson Cooper show. If the jurors did not understand what the star witness was saying are they not supposed to ask for an interpreter? It is wrong to ignore or discredit what she was saying just because they can't understand her. Her communications skills as Jeantel has explained on your show is caused by a disability. What Jeantel said on the stand matters a lot to this case and if the juror heard or understood nothing other than the cursing, then this is a mistrial. The Jurors should have voiced this concern in court, why they kept quite until after the verdict is behold me.
You realize Mr. West has spent most of his career defending criminals, the majority of which were black males. He isn't a racist.
Tonight is the first time I saw the picture West's daughter posted with the ice cream cones. Deplorable. Absolutely horribly deplorable. Totally disgusting. Shows what stereotype parenting some people give their offspring. I totally disagree with West's ugly daughter (and she IS BUTTT-UGLY BY THE WAY, DESPITE WEST'S MONEY). Well, I do agree. Jeantel beat stupidity tonight. West's homely offspring.
The only thing offensive are your attacks. Eating ice cream and supporting your father are not crimes. On the other hand the special prosecutor is being investigated for withholding evidence and not sending the case to a grand jury. The only thing ugly is your obvious racism.
Your resort to cheap personal attacks against THE DAUGHTER of one of the lawyers who represented GZ proves conclusively that you have virtually nothing of value to offer in this discussion.
Oh, and YOU CAN GUAR-AN-TEE The Department of Justice of the United States will evaluate the ice cream picture. Like Father, Like Daughter!
One more....the juror (the one to speak first that hopes by doing so her book deal will outsell the other book deals in the making) saying something like "This is the way they were brought up" about Janteal. Well, you cannot get more racist and judgmental than West's daughter and the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Your the only racist I see.
I'll second Dean on that comment. I mean, if you had something principled or logical to say about this, I assume you'd say that and not wallow in personal attacks. Shoot, if you're going to do that, at least attack the lawyer, not his kid.
I'm very sorry it offends you, but this jury got it right. There was much more doubt than mere "reasonable doubt" about whether GZ committed murder or manslaughter. The only legal verdict was NOT GUILTY. The rest of this is a side show. Get over it.
Piers look at this http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cracka
Bravo William.....I just posted the same comment! It's only ok for African American to use this term and turn it around for their own benefit. So typical!
I'm an outsider looking in. I'm a 62 year old white woman in British Columbia, Canada and can't believe that anyone has the audacity to say that race was not a factor in this case. That's what so obviously started it all. I accept the jury's verdict and might have also voted the same way based on the letter of the law. However, for the woman on the jury to say that race was not considered is to pretend not to see the elephant in the room as you move around trying not to have it step on you. Get real people. No way would George Zimmerman have been alerted to and following a young white teenager in a hoodie. None of us knows for certain what happened after that but if George had simply walked up to the kid and asked what he was doing in the neighbourhood, like he would have with any white kid, the whole thing would have ended differently.
Thanks to Piers for having Rachel Jeantel on tonight. Like everyone else I was amazed at how relaxed, articulate, and personable she was. I thought back to how I was running a household at her age as my mother was was in hospital dying of cancer and there were younger siblings to raise. I would've been scared spitless to have been sitting in a court room, answering questions about the last few minutes of my best friend's life. I can't say that I'd have done any better than her in spite of coming from an upper middle class background with all the resulting privileges. Tonight she shone and we all got a better picture of Treyvon through her. I don't think it would've changed the verdict and I hope that she's surrounded by people who've told her that. The letter of the law doesn't take into account what started the encounter, merely what George thought was happening, and how it all ended up. It doesn't make it right, but that wouldn't make it the first case in the history of the law would it?
The people on here who want to believe that race wasn't involved are as blind as the nearly all-white jury. When you're in the middle of the situation, can you really see what's going on? I don't come from a race-free country but I sure as hell recognize when race has entered the equation and so should you.
Yup, George is such a racist, he went to his senior prom with a black girl.
Keep swallowing the media garbage.
Ms. Cyhtia, Well said! I probably would have chosen man slaughter for other reasons, such as who takes a gun to go to targets,...the statement all alone "they always get away" indicated to me that his mind set was, not tonight. It is my strength that in this situation I stand on...I was guilty of sin, yet Christ forgave me. I believe he could have handled that situation a whole lot better, but I do not hold any ill will in my heart for him.
Love you piers..I am a 26 year old mixed female. I appreciate this interview but honestly, I wish the star witness had been able to articulate her point better. I did clearly hear though, her point about trayvon possibly thinking zimmerman may have been a rapist, how could the defense look over this?! therefore, trayvon was using self defense.....the media we are exposed to these days as a whole really makes us all paranoid about one other. So what is self defense against self defense? It's almost like a duel...how would you charge that?
Hmmm, never mind, I know.
I couldn't hear what she was saying and I was trying to. I didn't make out that part about rapist.
Was it reasonable to suspect Zimmerman was a rapist? Is there a bunch of 28-year-old Hispanic males raping 17-year-old boys? The answer to both is no. Just because you think something doesn't make it reasonable. Now if someone punches you in the face and is then on top of you punching you and your head is slamming against concrete, then it is reasonable to fear grave bodily injury.
One, the defense didn't miss anything, but I think you meant the prosecution.
Two, self-defense against self-defense wouldn't matter. In the matter of self-defense the aggressor is what really matters, one who has either verbally expressed serious threat and is advancing giving you reason to believe they will act on those threats, or one who has engaged in actual physical violence upon you causing you to fear for your life. No matter which occurred, there would always have been reasonable doubt. No matter how you spin it, the evidence provided a ton of reasonable doubt, and if anything at all, far more reason to believe Zimmerman's account.
I saw Jeantel's testimony. Mr. West was very thorough and specific with Jeantel. And sometimes confused – but he was never rude or mean. If she was embarrassed, it had nothing to do with West.
Agreed. It had to do with the fact that she is not educated, and according to her twitter account, she smokes weed everyday. Great star witness. I wouldn't let this lady mow my lawn no less be a witness in a murder trial. This is one of the most ignorant people I have ever had the pleasure of listening too.
Mr Morgan I dare you to say you love the USA that you be proud to be one of us,. you can not say this can you? for this is why you are here and why you are doing this to our country. you love England and this is all plan to harm us isn't it, you never say any thing nice about us or our country ever. tonight was all about our court got it wrong isn't it, sick so sick.
How can you people be so stupid? Molly West alone started a Justice investigation.
Molly West was just supporting her father for doing his job in defending Zimmerman.
Piers, go back to your miserable UK. We don't need you here. We don't need you to tell us about guns or justice in America. This is why we're Americans and you are not. YOu want to live UK way – go and live there
I am so sick of hearing about teens being children. When I was 13 I was a young adult in High School. When I was 17 I was a High School Graduate, old enough to be a United States Soldier in the Army to defend my country... a 17 year old is AN ADULT ! ! ! An 18 year old is able to pick the President of the most powerful country in the world. Yes as a SEVENTEEN year old I was an ADULT.
So America, stop trying to baby our adults and make them responsible for their actions; as I was held accountable for mine. 17 year olds are NOT babies...
So you think at 17 you are grown huh? You joined the military at 17 huh? Riddle me this did your parent(s) have to sign for you to join due to your age? Before you answer you should know that you are addressing someone that knows the answer. So by American standards NOT YOURS 17 is still a child.
Piers I dare you to air this comment: I am so sick of hearing about teens being children. When I was 13 I was a young adult in High School. When I was 17 I was a High School Graduate, old enough to be a United States Soldier in the Army to defend my country... a 17 year old is AN ADULT ! ! ! An 18 year old is able to pick the President of the most powerful country in the world. Yes as a SEVENTEEN year old I was an ADULT.
So America, stop trying to baby our adults and make them responsible for their actions; as I was held accountable for mine. 17 year olds are NOT babies...
For a girl that didn't want to get involved in the trial...for a girl that didn't want to testify...for a girl that didn't want to be in the spotlight...why is she doing national interviews now?
Simply put, she is just a big/fat liar!
Piers is an idiot for trying to capitalize on a tragedy. Piers, if you hate América so much, go back to your own country. Most "REAL" Américans don't welcome your ilk in this country, anyway.
As for Rachel Jeantel, as a minority, I feel she is an embarrassment to the Black community. If she was a little more intelligent, she would shot her huge trap!!!
Here is another fact that the biased media and willfully ignorant and racist populace choose to overlook.
The need for Trayvon Martin to feel sufficiently paranoid to lash out violently in the way Zimmerman and eye witnesses claim. This is important because a street drug that is popular in the young urban community known as Purple Drank or Lean produces those very side effects.
Purple Drank or Lean is a coctail that is created by mixing Robitussin or other over-the-counter cough medicines with, you guessed it, Skittles and Arizona Watermelon Juice, the flavor of tea Trayvon Martin was carrying that night.
Purple Drank also goes by other street names such as sizzurp, lean, syrup, sip sip, drank, barre, purple jelly and Texas tea. It has opiate like effects. Some of its side effects include confusion, agitation, and hallucinations among others.
What's so frustrating about this case is the blatant disregard for Trayvon Martin as a human being with every right to go where he pleases and to be a teenager who makes mistakes. I would challenge any parent of a teen (especially young boys in Trayvon's age range) to tell me that life with a teenager is all peaches and cream. He's dead and yet it's his life (life style) that many are focusing on. Was this jury told to disregard all of the facts leading to his shooting and only focus on the end result? I listened to the juror who spoke to Anderson Cooper last night who admitted that she didn't understand Rachel at times. Does that mean you discount her testimony or do you ask the judge for clarification? Was this done in this case? A sinking ship will eventually drawn everyone on board. 1 John 4:20 Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.
Pierce Morgan goes too far in his erroneous reporting of the George Zimmerman case. Morgan is himself prejodice and VERY partial.
I won't watch CNN because they permit this type of NON news trash !
Piers – you are a pompous ass! you call this good reporting? you are one of the many ring leaders in this media circus! that being said, having watched the interview, I am more convinced that GZ acted appropriately, your guest said that its ok in her world that using racist language is not only acceptable but expected, smoking pot a few times a week was normal? and that TM was not afraid but he was angry and merely giving GZ a "whoop ass" so wasn't this exactly what the defense was saying? the only difference was TM was expecting to come out the winner and not expecting a gun. My answer is if you are afraid you run, you hide or seek help, you don't confront, and use violence. why didnt he ring someone's bell? why didnt he go home or call the police as GZ did? insetad of asking questions fairly, it is clear that you want to keep this going to secure your pathetic job..RJ, a credible witness, really? she said whatever the prosecutor wanted her to say and got tripped up when she couldnt remember..why didnt you ask her about being a racist?
There are a few hard questions here that no one really wants to face. When Trayvon noticed he was being followed bhy did ht turn around and confront George Zimmerman? Why didn't he keep walking and call 911? Why didn't he knock on someone's door and ask them for shelter or to place the call? If he was really scared why didn' the run? Why turn around and ask GZ "why are you following me?" Houses had been broken into around that complex and TM had no way of knowing of GZ was trouble any more than GZ knew of Trayvon was trouble. Biggest thing – why did Trayvon strat the fight – and he had to – he was on top when the trigger was pulled.
As for Rachel Jeantel, if her behavior on the stand was that of someone whose parents "taught her" then that is a girl is is stlil in dire need of raising.
I watched Jeantel's testimony and it was clear to me that there was a history with Don West. Indeed, he did depose her back in March and given Jeantel's disposition towards him during the trial there is no doubt West was below the belt cruel-he bullied her relentlessly during deposition. By contrast during the trial his cross examination of her, while not directly harsh, was certainly patronizing–and she felt trapped–she tried her best to protect herself from being bullied by this man and to let us and the jury know he would stoop to any level needed. West absolutely expolited her vulnerabilities. What kind of man is West that he raises a daughter who has such utter disregard for people that she would tweet "we beat stupidity?" Perhaps she is just "Trash come to town" for the first time. Her parents should have reared her better
She is unable to make 1 complete sentence grammatically correct. She was the STAR witness? Joke. Do not tell me this was a racial issue. She is as dumb as a box of rocks. Serve her right to get such horrible criticism.
@ Marco-It would be grammatically correct to say "serves her right" not "serve her right". Only a problem since you are making a critique of someone else's grammar. But since you brought the topic up--correct grammar has nothing to do with truth-it is just window dressing. While it would have been nice had Jeantel been able to articulate what she heard and perceived a little better-–the truth of the matter is that Jeantel did know and Zimmerman had to admit that he was absolutely following Trayvon. Trayvon did not do one thing to lead Zimmerman to reasonably rationalize that Trayvon was up to cause harm to the point he needed to be followed by a citizen with a loaded weapon. I do not have a problem with guns. I have a problem with losers who have guns.
Mr. Morgan????? What do you think you are accomplishing by being so far left on every single viewpoint and fanning the flames on this George Zimmerman verdict! Just heard you say "Rachel was clearly a smart cookie"? Can you not see she was all dolled up and clearly had been coached before your interview? You make the comment about NOT injecting gun control and in the same sentence say George Z (your White Hispanic) acted like some gun toten action hero from TV because he had a concealed carry permit and protected himself?
Have you ever considered for even a moment that George Z could be telling the absolute truth and what Trayvon could have conceivably did to George if he didn't end the fight with that pistol? Brain damage or death maybe? Is it nice to live in a fantasy world like yours? You are a disgrace to America and hate everything that makes America great. You should be sued for fanning the flames and causing Trayvon supporters to Riot and damage people and property.
I recently retired after 29 years in the Army and know a little bit about human nature and the reality of conflict. You seem pleasantly clueless as to what it means to be American. We are not perfect but we are free to succeed or screw up unlike most countries of this world. For just once support the good guys, White people are not all KKK members and gun freaks merely because they are conservative.
You are the apitemy of "White Guilt" you never challenge any minority or far left guest but you have disdain for someone that makes rational sense like Mr Zimmerman's brother that put you in your place several times during interviews. If I were him I would cancel also since you wil never have an open mind for conservative viewpoints. Thanks for listening...
1. you carry a loaded gun (equalizer)
2. you pick a fight
3. you begin to lose the fight you started
4. you scream for help to get yourself out of the situation that you started
5. no one helps you to extricate yourself from the mess you created
6. you pull your equalizer and kill the person who's getting the best of you
7. a young life is snuffed out
8. you claim self defense
9. a jury of your peers declare you not guilty
10. only God knows – pray for Peace
#2 not proven. If this was true the entire outcome at trial is different. It really comes down to this.
Pierce – news item in the local Phiily newspaper today – "10 Murders in City Since Saturday". When will you and your guests express your outrage be over this? Or do you and your liberal commentators just accept black on black murders as normal business and no need to get involved? If you and your guests truly cared about how minorities are treated , you would cover this topic but NO ONE – including Rev Al, NAACP, Jessie Jackson and your quests – care about it because it is not as newsworthy are a Hispanic shooting a Black in a self defense case.
Would you feel the same way or make the same comments if the roles and races were reversed in this case? My guess is probably not. Just relax.....
Piers Morgan is not fair and balanced, his journalism is so, so skewed. First, he has Robert Zimmerman on Sunday night and he gets his lunch handed to him. He tried the old bait and switch, and Zimmerman was not buying it and put Morgan in his place. Then last night , Morgan interviews Rachel Jentel and surrounds her with an audience (never see that before) that is so pro Trayvon Martin. Morgan....get over it. The jury has spoken...and found Zimmerman not guilty. He may be not innocent, but only God knows that. I do have some advice for you though....go back to England.
Zimmerman was found not guilty by a jury from the evidence shown in a fair trial....End of story...If it were a black man who killed a white man this wouldn't even be news...there would be no public out cry, no rallies,no nothing except being just another statistic....Journalist with the tabloid style of Piers Morgan like to keep fanning the flames,from this story ..not because Morgan really gives a damn, but for ratings and controversy... Morgan is exploiting this tragedy for his own gain,and "milking" this story for everything he can get...proving even further what a contemptible a$$ he really is. He doesn't care that the proven innocent Zimmerman will always be looking over his shoulder and his life could be in danger..and the enormous expense that Zimmerman has for legal fee's...all because this story was made political and exploited by the media and by people like Morgan..Pathetic
You are correct that if it were a" black man that killed a white man" this wouldn't be news. Its also clear that if this were as you suggested the black man would have been arrested immediately. The bottom-line this wasn't as you suggested and we will never know. Its very sad that a teenager lost his life. Personally I don't believe that GZ is racist, a bigot or a "bad" person but I do believe that he was wrong in using deadly force. Yes the jury found him not guilty and GZ will have to find peace with God.
Abovethelies...I too believe that GZ is not a racist,however I disagree with you about Zimmerman using deadly force...Travon Martin was a scraping 17 year old who was over 6 ft tall and athletic who sucker punched Zimmerman breaking his nose and knocking him down,and then according to the evidence was slamming his head into the cement.....I'll remind you of the FBI statistic that more people are killed each year by bare hands then by rifles...any kind of rifles including what is called assault rifles...So what would you do if a bigger guy was on top of you and beating the crap out of you ??..I have no doubt that Zimmerman feared for his life and neither did the jury..thus the use of deadly force was justified...And I'll also ask what would a cop have done if this kind of attack was against him/her ??
How do you know they were in your words "Pro-Martin"? Not everyone in the audience spoke nor did everyone "cheer" on Rachel. Based on your comments its obvious that you are biased which is apparently what you are claiming Piers is guilty of. Actually you need to "get over it"....
LOL..this is the best that piers morgan could get on his show..hilarious..this woman cant but 2 words together and Piers holds her in high regard..thats all you need to know about piers
Bigoted comments....Does that make her a bad person or are you simply stating a point of view from the eyes of a bigot? Who cares if she can't "put two words" together that you can understand. There are many people like her in this country and it has NOTHING to do with the pigmentation of their skin. However, I am glad you shared with us your higher level of intellect.
you have got to be the most gullible person alive...if you don't think that staged audience was not pro Martin. Take off your blinders. Yes, and you are right, I do have a bias with unfair journalism. If you think Piers Morgan is fair and balanced then you are as blind as him.
AGAIN I ask you....Did everyone speak in the audience? Did everyone cheer at every word she spoke? Unfair journalism is in the eye of the beholder......I didn't see an ALL pro-Martin audience. If you aren't satisfied with Pier then I recommend you turn to FOX network instead. I'm not anymore gullible then you are biased. The jury decided on the evidence presented to them and GZ will have to make peace with Go; not CNN, you or I.
I give up.....you like the kool-aid....then keep on drinking it.
Peace with GOD........
Koolaid.....really???....Coming from a self=proclaimed "Texas Justice" ....I take that as a compliment......If you don't like what's being reported on a network then change channels......
Its really bothering me that Piers Morgan is not defending the judical system.. these jurors didnt ask to be a part of this trial, they gave up their time with their families and their lives are forever changed. Now they are being questioned? they followed the evidence and the law, pure and simple! Remember in a trial, its a jury of the defendant's peers not the victim.. TM supporters you can't have it both ways, not have the victim on trial but have a jury of peers that would clearly not be neutral.
Piers Morgan, why not do a show about how many young black males have died at the hand of other black men, and to simplify it.. since this shooting occured? the numbers are shocking and devasting, why aren't al sharpton and jesse jackson walking for all those men? better yet, how about all the soldiers, of all races that are dying to give us the very freedom we exist under, a rally or walk for them ? disgrace!
Sadly, in that interview she confirmed everytghing that's been said about her.
Well this latest news now that she gave the suggestion to Travon he might be a rapist, that could explain Travons fear and why he reacted so quickly to punch out George. From what I've been reading she say he might be a gay rapist. Also if Travon was high on weed and that suggestion comes through to him it hightened his fear. Maybe if she would of said just run home and get out of there this would of never happened as well. Thoughts.
Jurors come to the judicial process with ingrained thought patterns and prejudices. They do not become animatrons once deliberations begin and suspend all of their base beliefs to interpret the evidence. The fact that the juror felt compelled to mention she felt sad for her because of her perceived inadequacy tells more about the juror than Rachael. We pity those we feel superior to, or are glad we aren't.
tyfuller11 – most definitely agree with you. well said.
Really? Are you sure about that statement? Have you ever experienced being a juror? One thing you would know is someone is assigned as the one who keeps things honest and it's not easy to remind everyone hey "we have to use only the evidence presented not our OPINIONS or so called PREJUDICES " only Facts nothing else no matter what we personally may feel or believe WE ARE SWORN IN TO AN OATH and we can be held in contempt of court if WE don't follow the rules of the court. These 6 jurors were sworn in and had to abide by the LAW as it is stated on the books for FL. They had to follow steps to convict or not to convict according to the Judge and I suspect if they pursued this decision without bias but as a servant to the Judicial System then the verdict that was rendered was done so according to Law and Statutes for the state of FL.
Piers' issue is with guns, even if used legally. He doesn't care about blacks, the judicial system, or anything else except his own agenda.
The homeowners association where Zimmerman murdered Trayvon already settled out of court and paid the Martin family $1,000,000.00 dollars. The home owners had to pay for Zimmerman's actions.
Jeantel certainly hasn't missed a meal
She admits in her "urban community", Martin was administering "whoop-ass". They take physical assault very lightly. She continues to convict Martin.
It is not so hard to figure out that racism and ethnic discrimination exist in America. Just read the comments on all these American news sites. Blacks are treated like second class citizens and considered America's problem. The brunt of racism was experienced by Rachel Jeantel for being different. Look at all these people GNAWING and PAWING at Rachel like she is some BEAST.
People do that all the time, to folks of all colors and creeds, when they are made into public figures as she has been. She is probably getting it a bit worse at the moment for a number of reasons, the biggest of which is the high emotions revolving around the case.
That said, she isn't educated. She isn't a good speaker. That's not an inference based on her skin color, that is a fact you glean from listening to her speak. Why can't we even say the truth? She isn't a good speaker. FACT. Could she be one day? I'm sure she could, with practice and dedication she could become good at it, just like anyone. Acting like she is at least average, or "just fine", is a disservice to the young woman. I hope that's not what her teachers have been telling her just so they can move her along.
Jim: listen to yourself speak. Are you unemployed and have all day here at the boards? You have nothing good to say about Rachel. Face it.
Jim, the nails of your paws are getting too dull from too much pawing at Rachel.
When did he change his name to Don Weston?
Rachel has a BITE problem so pronouncing words and names are a problem for her.
RJ had a gun to sell to TM. The defense team had this text message but wasn't allowed to put it in as evidence. That's why RJ was afraid to be on the stand for fear she was going to have to explain.
TM was using RJ. She was doing dirty work for him. It's all in the text messages that wasn't allowed into evidence. She is getto smart and book dumb.
Gosh, what restraint Jeantel shows! She didn't curse out nobody while testifying in a murder case. Awesome job!
Most of the discussion that I have read and/or participated in, since the Martin decision was rendered, centers on everything but the facts. I have previously stated that opinions are like certain body parts. Everyone has one and some people are one. So here's mine. Once Zimmerman chose to ignore the instructions of the 911 dispatcher not to pursue Martin, he was no longer under the umbrella of protection afforded by being a Neighborhood Watch volunteer. He was on his on with no right to do what he was doing. Regardless of any social perspective Trayvon Martin may have had of George Zimmerman, he had every right to "stand his ground" against Zimmerman's unknown intentions. He was under no obligation to verbally or physically respond to any command Zimmerman may have given. Zimmerman's apparent plan of subduing Martin fell apart when Martin took him to the ground. Based on Zimmerman's training and ambitions, he was a want to be Officer of the law and couldn't make the grade, I believe he was on a mission to prove himself worthy. I think Zimmerman is guilty of manslaughter. I think if Trayvon Martin had killed Zimmerman in self defense the decision would have been a resounding united verdict of manslaughter.
Ray, Where did you get your so called facts? They are skewed at best there was no evidence saying that Zimmerman still pursued Trayvon once he was told not to. You obviously believe the lie that Zimmerman got out of his truck after the 911 dispatcher said he didn't need to follow the suspect? The trouble with that is Zimmerman was already out of his truck when he talked to the dispatcher and said "Ok" when he was asked not to pursue the suspect. Something went terribly wrong in the next few minutes that forever changed the lives of two men as well as the tapestry of America. According to the trial the jury can ONLY rule on FACTS not opinion or hearsay if the lawyers had presented FACTS to back up their charges then we would have seen a different outcome since they didn't we are left with this outcome.
Oh but her parents didn't teach her how to conduct herself in a court of law? She is a disrespectful, lying, and uneducated person.
Rachel said on Piers Morgan last night that Trayvon smoked weed about "twice a week" and flapped her gums about a few other things. I don't think this is the kind of information Trayvon's mom want to hear. The more I think about it, it's because of being around people like Rachel is one of the reasons why Trayvon's mom sent him to his father in Sanford.
It is disgusting, how this poor, ignorant, and uneducated child is being taken advantage of the media. They are a disgrace and so are her parents for not teaching her how to speak properly. Who will ever take this girl seriously? Who would ever hire a mess like this? She is in for a long, hard life. Instead of blaming her parents for her ignorance, I'm sure she'll blame society.
A thought for Piers Morgan
You have people speculating about the change in Rachel's demeanor and personality on your show compared to what it was in the courtroom. Using your your investigative nature, why not discuss the probability that what accounts for the difference is that she was prepped and coached? Any reasonable person that was told how they portrayed such a poor image on national TV will certainly go to extremes to correct that the next time they appear on TV. My intuition is worthless in legal terms but it appears obvious to me that she was self-playing the role of a different character on your show than she was in the courtroom. It didn't seem genuine at all.
What a waste of human breath,,she has contributed NOTHING to society. Typical taker and no contributor. squirted out 3 puppies w/ 3 different men,,,uneducated by her own fault. now she is going to get a free ride,,,,,what a joke. she has or never had any intentions of bettering herself. this case has gone to her head (like most uneducated black people). she represents the trash of haiti. come here and do nothing but get free crap and be a fat, nasty bum. society fail!!!!
This is just pathetic. This poor woman, obviously a product of our fabulous public school system, spoke a language? that did not remotely resemble English, hell, that isn't even eubonics. No way you understood a thing she said, though I did notice her fondness for saying whoop asssssssssss. She did no good for herself, the Martin family. She is a sad pathetic mess, a product of the hood/ghetto whatever and you should be ashamed for exploiting this woman for ratings. Another not so shining moment for you, Mr. Morgan.
How about you do real shows, about the real problems in America, CRIME IN BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS. BLACK ONBLACK. Chicago, Detroit, LA, every major metro city. WHEN WILL YOU COVER THIS???? MURDER EVERDAY AND THE MEDIA IGNORES IT. ENDLESS MURDER/CRIME AND YOU WON'T COVER IT.
Shame on you, CNN, and every other network that refuses to cover the real crime going on daily.
If not, please do us a favor and go back to UK. Just try not to get drawn and quartered walking down the street 'cause you and got no guns and aint no stand your ground in jolly old England.
Do you support summer jobs programs and cancelling the sequester.
90% of Blacks arrested are unemployed.
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