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February 4th, 2014
11:21 PM ET

Bill Nye and Ken Ham join Piers Morgan to discuss global warming

On the heels of a debate that lasted just under two hours and streamed live on cnn.com, on Tuesday evening Piers Morgan asked both Bill Nye and Ken Ham to join his program with additional insights and further reaction.

Touted as an evolution versus creationism discussion, Nye followed the interaction with Ham by offering his analysis of the extreme weather that is quickly becoming commonplace around the world:

"You cannot tie any one event to climate change," allowed the gentleman forever known as "Bill Nye the Science Guy." "But interestingly enough, there is new statistical evidence ... that extreme heat events can be tied to climate change. So that when more heat energy is in the atmosphere, you expect more storms."

Seated directly next to Nye, Ham looked to clarify his position on Global Warming:

"I didn't say I believe in global warming," noted the CEO of "Answers in Genesis", before the "Piers Morgan Live" host pressed the issue.

"I was under the assumption you don't believe in global warming as an entity," said Morgan.

As Ham attempted to refute the statement, Nye came to Morgan's aid:

"You mentioned it on a radio broadcast. There was a link to it," he interjected.

At this juncture, Ham aimed to summarize the specifics of his actual position:

"One of the things that we say is the fact that climates do change and when you do a lot of investigation as to what's actually happening and why that's happening, there's a difference between what you observe, and then interpreting the reasons," he noted. "A lot more research needs to be done in this area."

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  1. Marc

    This looks like a set up. Why is it that the clip that was shown so steeped in assumption on the part of both Morgan and Nye as to what Dr. Ham said? I wonder if that is the tone of the entire piece.

    February 5, 2014 at 12:23 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Nahum Fernandez

      I completely agree. Very weird how they just cut the video.

      February 5, 2014 at 12:42 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Reasoner

      Ken Ham is NOT a doctor of anything... he did not get any doctorate from any university. Don't call him with prefix Dr. He has a diploma and honorary degrees. Not Doctorate in any thing.

      February 6, 2014 at 11:50 am | Report abuse | Reply
  2. biccoaydan

    Now I may be off base, but it's likely because The Big Ham was about to go into another tirade revolving around "There's a book for that..."

    Ham isnt worth listening too. According to his theories, since the earth couldn't have been proven to be round thousands of years ago, there is no way in hell it should be round. Yet we know it is. His logic would have kept the world in the Dark Ages. Think on that.

    February 5, 2014 at 2:23 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • rpavich

      Looks like you have no idea of what is argument is...

      If you are going to call someone wrong about something....knowing what they actually say would be a good first step.

      February 5, 2014 at 5:15 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Puzzlin

        It was the Christians who helped the world plunge itself into the dark ages in the year 400 when they burned the library in Alexandria. It held much of knowledge of the world as well as real cold die hard scientific writings that we had to re-learn (enlightenment). The Christians intentionally turned their backs on science as is evidenced in their historical writings of the period. Their book burning way insured the darkness.

        We seek TRUTH people. Learn how to find the REAL truth. Always start with evidence. I call it EVIDENT TRUTH. Any others, are only entertaining and fantasizing. That's fine as long as you understand.

        Now, breathe in, relax, chill. You want easy answers. Try again. "Get in the Game"

        Still Puzzlin'

        February 5, 2014 at 7:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Paul

      tirade: a long, angry speech of criticism or accusation.

      I don't think you watched the debate. Ken Ham wasn't angry at all. And when Mr. Ham said ""There's a book for that..." , he was simply explaining what he believes.

      February 5, 2014 at 9:40 am | Report abuse | Reply
  3. Edward

    There's no question that our environment is constantly changing. We agree the major source of energy is the Sun's Radiation. Bill Nye desires man's ability to predict things, based on assumptions, who will quickly dismiss logic based on Biblical Scriptures that have meaning that remains unchanged since it was written.

    February 5, 2014 at 6:52 am | Report abuse | Reply
  4. Eric

    Ham is a joke. I went to a fund raiser for The Ark project in my hometown of Cincinnati. A friend of mine believes in The Genesis story and Creationism and he invited me to the event to see why he believes what he does. A scale model of the Ark was placed in the living room of a mansion in Cincinnati. After Ken Ham went into a tirade about how Obama is the devil and supported his theory with scriptural evidence we both left appalled by what we saw and heard. Ham's entire schtick is used to make money on the back of salvation. The Ark project is "Ark Encounters LLC" so they can make money. They tried to sell bonds but their request denied because they offered no r.o.i. Guys like Ham need to be exposed for the criminals they are. Here is a link to the letter he sent blaming the devil and secularist for the Ark projects failure. http://www.answersingenesis.org/e-mail/archive/ark/2013/letter-november-15.html

    February 5, 2014 at 7:32 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Daleri Rileda

      You still have a very great supernatural Maker, regardless.

      February 5, 2014 at 9:05 am | Report abuse | Reply
  5. shehar39

    Ham did a great job, first time i have seen him talk

    February 5, 2014 at 8:19 am | Report abuse | Reply
  6. Daleri Rileda

    Peers Morgan putting his foot in his mouth again and labeling Christians as people that are against science!

    February 5, 2014 at 9:01 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • well... if the shoe fits

      Christians ARE against Science.

      If you believe in the bible, you're against Science.

      February 5, 2014 at 6:28 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Puzzlin

        It is true that ultimately the Christian belief is brought to into severe doubt when held into the light of reason. It skips Reason to opt out for easy road, that is, easy if you have blind faith. Then it will all be easy, make up whatever you want, add a heavy dose of faith, and you may believe as you wish to your heart's delight. Don't let any silly facts get in your way : )

        Or, if your brave and strong, you can be skeptical of those who claim "easy" Truth, and actually seek and find truth by examining the evidence carefully, and sticking with the facts. And when you don't know, you may freely admit it. Many of us find much mystery surrounding our lives. It's ok to admit you may not know everything. Especially when it comes those things which none of us have yet to experience. Humility is helpful and helps keep one grounded.

        Enjoy the Universe, and Learn. Learn to find evident truth. Start from there.

        February 8, 2014 at 1:46 am | Report abuse |
  7. Jenny

    Strange CNN edited this for viewers who come to their website to see the interview. I had to watch on another website to see it on its entirety. It's understandable to edit on air content for time but what is the reason for editing online content?

    February 5, 2014 at 9:23 am | Report abuse | Reply
  8. Christine

    There is a very real problem with this interview and society today; no one is even willing to consider other theories. If we go back to the flat earth argument mentioned above, imagine that contemporary scientists all believe the earth is flat and they teach it in school to children, so generations grow up to believe that the earth is indeed flat. Then Eratosthenes comes along preaching that the earth is round, but since the general public has been brainwashed for generations and generation that the earth is flat, they call him a whacko and won't even consider a alternative theory. That is what is happening to the bible and its validity in explaining the creation of the universe. The biblical account of creation and does not necessarily contradict the secularist belief, what is happening is that they are completely denying that it could be true because they have been brainwashed for hundreds of years in the religion of science. They are told that the two cannot coexist and therefore the bible is wrong. Have they ever even read the bible? Mr. Nye repeatedly misconstrued biblical accounts and tried to argue base on wrong facts. If a scientist, like Bill Nye, could simply admit that his theories of the creation of the universe also take faith, the bible and Christians wouldn’t look so ridiculous to secularists anymore would they? Both world views take an amount faith to accept. The difference with the bible is that we have a record of what happened and we observe the world through that account, so faith comes easier to the people holding the answers in their hands.

    February 5, 2014 at 9:59 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • westc2

      Facts do not require faith. We observe the history of the known universe and believe it to be true based on fact. The bible is a book of ideas written by people who had no knowledge of these facts and needed a way to explain their existence. The best they could come up with was this some all powerful and eternal sky wizard created all matter and life.

      The things they never answered was "why does this sky wizard exist in the first place?" or "why did the sky wizard create matter?" or "why should we worship this sky wizard?"

      February 5, 2014 at 4:58 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Christine

        Evolution does require faith. And so does the big ban theory. Where did matter come from? You don't know! You have faith that the big bang theory is a viable theory. Lucy, the australopithecus, was only 40% recovered. You take in faith that te other 60% supports scientist claims that she was an ancestors of man. Unless you can prove where and how matter was created and why a skeleton (that actually is an better example of an ape ancestor) whose is largely incomplete indicates evolution, then you need faith! Science is a religion just like Christianity.

        February 5, 2014 at 11:45 pm | Report abuse |
  9. *kristi b

    For someone (Ken Ham) who said he respects the scientific process and innovation, he completely negated that when he admitted his personal bias (that there is no evidence that will ever change his mind about creation science) soto make all narratives fit a foregone conclusion -completely the opposite of science!

    February 5, 2014 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Micah Z

      Kristi B: In the debate Ken proposed the distinction between observable science (that which can be tested in a laboratory) and that which is calculated using hypothesis and theories... but never actually able to be tested. Anything that happens in the past falls under this category. Often times scientists forget how much philosophy influences the rational thought processes that go into making up a scientific worldview -> and that is what Ken was attempting to point out, that the words have become associated with only specific train of thought. Evolution/Creation aside, the foundation of science is observable evidence and the calculations and truths we draw from it -> nothing more. The interpretation of those evidences into hypothesis and theories that fall into an unobservable category require faith to construct the model that holds them together. Ken was expressing his bias about the model, not the evidence. Bill believes in the autonomy of human reasoning and that he himself doesn't have a worldview, which is philosophically impossible, and thus misses the model of faith he uses to construct the evidences in question.

      February 5, 2014 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  10. Roger

    This small clip and the written summary is dishonest and misleading. The full 9 minutes has landed on Youtube, and where it is not an out and out recreation of the interview, there are slanters in it that "color" the dialogue.

    February 5, 2014 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  11. travelingknightontheroad

    People like Piers Morgan are disingenuous to those he disagrees with and obviously did not watch the WHOLE debate. He constantly tries to put words into the moth of Ken Ham. Ham held himself with decorum under the corrupt onslaught of msomeone that is supposed to be...interviewing, not vilifying...the guests. Ken Ham tried to stay to the heart of the debate question and Morgan goes into soap boxing about global w arming. Typical habit of liberals to side track the issue of the day

    February 5, 2014 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  12. Jo

    You know I didn't and don't watch the show. But I'm not surprised that the only show Bill Nyes statement because everyone knows how Piers Morgan thinks! So I just state this I really don't understand why the people that claim not to believe in God or the bible spend so much time trying to disprove it. Why concern yourself. Christians have their belief, non believers have their belief. Fact is your never going to get Christians to stop talking about their God. And the hate non believers show towards Christians, why? You don't even believe in God. What should it matter to you. Just like your not going to convince Christians in the whole big bang theory. Truth be told there are some out there that misrepresent Christians. Christians tell people about God not out of hate but out of love. That is their motivation not hate! And Christians don't force their belief, a Christian comes up to you and wants to share the gospel, and you don't want to hear it shut the door, walk away, close your ears. Christians share they don't force their belief on anybody. Evolutionists does try to force their beliefs on people. I've always said let the children learn about both and decide for themselves what they are going to accept. Make the playing field even. What are Evolutionists afraid of? Let both subjects be taught in the schools. Our children have the right to choose what they want to believe in. The problem I have with some Scientist they think they are some kind of god. And they are not, nor will they ever be. Oh and Nye, their is a big difference between religion and Christianity!

    February 5, 2014 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • westc2

      From reading your comment, I can infer that you are an extremely close-minded and ignorant person. People like you are the reason we don't want "creationism" taught in our public schools. Evolution is not a belief. Everything in the Bible is faith-based. Should we also be spending time teaching kids Scientology and Mormanism?

      Do you realize that the theory of evolution and big bang theory are not-synonymous with atheism or christianity? The big bang theory isn't an explanation of the beginning of time, it's an explanation for the known, observable universe. There are Christians who believe in both, who I think are just atheists that are too afraid to admit it to themselves.

      The whole thing comes down to this...Christians, and most all religions, ultimately "believe" because they are afraid of death and want there to be an afterlife, and to feel there's a purpose to their lives. They CAN NOT accept what we really are. This is why they create all these things to try and justify their beliefs.

      February 5, 2014 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • travelingknightontheroad

        Speaking of close-minded. If you are so open-minded why do you ATTACK her belief? If you are as enlightened as you say you are you will relinquish to her the idea of Creationism as being valid for her. That being Creationism is my belief as well.

        As to your statement about the big bang theory not being an explanation of the beginning of time, why do evolutionists take great pride in trying to articulate their belief how old the universe and the world is? You can only observe what you see and move forward. You cannot "guesstimate" age of the cosmos by trying to use dating methods that have been shown to not be fully proven accurate.

        As to your statement Christians afraid of death...where in Sam Hill did that come from? The Christians I know revel in the knowledge that someday they will live forever in Heaven...not that they shake in fear of the moment of leaving this mortal body. We do accept what we REALLY are...even in faith. If anything atheists go out of their way to insult, trash and deny us our beliefs...Christians do not do that in return. Christians share their belief but do not try to force it or deny your right to your way of thinking.

        February 5, 2014 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • rogerh

        Talk about closed minded and ignorant, let's not get abusive. You are blinded in the heart. The big bang is not a known observable fact. It is only a theory and a poor one at that. There was a huge explosion last year at a fertilizer warehouse in Texas which killed many people. Explosions don't create life, but destroys it. You are blind, but there is hope. Once I was blind but now I see1

        February 5, 2014 at 8:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • Eric

        The Bible was not an observable fact either. You weren't there so how do you know the events took place, or at best, occurred the way the Bible described. And don't say The Bible is the word of God – That is circular logic and has no place in intellectual thought or discussions. Also here is a question. If Adam and Eve were the first and only people on Earth as it says in the Bible, and they had Cain and Abel, and those are the ones who started to populate the Earth, it is obvious that a lot of incest was going on. I am not comfortable with that.

        February 6, 2014 at 5:41 am | Report abuse |
      • Christine

        You know why we as a nation frown upon incest? What the laws forbidding it are based on? The Bible! You are only validating biblical concepts when you say that you are uncomfortable with incest.

        "In the beginning... [the world] was good" and incest wasn't a worry of ours or God's. When sin entered the world and populations increased, incest started to cause genetic problems. So Moses was given the Levitical law forbidding it. If you were a true evolutionist you wouldn't pick your mates based on if they were related to you or not. You would pick the most "fit" and that could be your brother or sister. Guess you like biblical teachings, you know, since you are not comfortable with incest and all.

        February 7, 2014 at 12:41 am | Report abuse |
  13. Common Sense

    Ham: "A lot more research needs to be done"

    So we're at a 95% confidence level... When will your flock of sheep understand that it's happening?

    answer : when you and your old white GOP farts die off, and we can focus on Science again .. please, let it be soon

    February 5, 2014 at 6:22 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Neil H

      Thus the difference. Christians love the person and not the behaviour. Your so-called common sence group are true haters. You are racist and muderkus in heart.

      February 16, 2014 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Neil H

      Murderous even. At least I admit my mistakes.

      February 16, 2014 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  14. Steve

    Ken Ham needs to STFU as he IS NOT A SCIENTIST in any field. He has a cursory knowledge of science AND dishonestly deny's scientific fact. Why anyone would give this asshat credit, is beyond me.

    February 13, 2014 at 7:03 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Puzzlin

      Morality does not need a GOD to prop it up. It requires Reason based on evidence (proof). Morality does not come from GOD, it comes from us, and wait for it.....wait for it......the GOLDEN RULE. This rule comes from PEOPLE not GOD. All religions contain it in one form or another. No religion can ever claim it as their own or as proof of God's existence.

      Critical thinking PEOPLE. Use it to find Evident Truth. No shortcuts, those are just lazy cop-outs.

      February 16, 2014 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse | Reply

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