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September 29th, 2011
12:38 PM ET

Damien Echols of West Memphis Three describes life in jail: "I hadn't seen daylight in almost a decade"

Damien Echols of the West Memphis Three talks to Piers Morgan tonight about his experience in jail – and his recent release. "I hadn't seen daylight in almost a decade," says Echols. "The only thing you can do to maintain your sanity is not think about the case."

Echols also talked about the first moment he left jail. "I couldn't wait for the nightfall, just to see the sun go down, because I had never seen that, not in almost 20 years," he said. Watch the full, emotional interview (along with Jason Baldwin and Echols' wife Lorri Davis) at 9pmET/PT.

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  1. Christina

    Why wasn't Jessie interviewed? Afraid he's gonna confess again??? Why didn't you interview the victims' families, too?

    September 29, 2011 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • John

      Why would they interview the victim's families? Were they wrongfully imprisoned for 20 years?

      September 29, 2011 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Christina

        No, the victims' families were not wrongfully imprisoned and neither were the WM3. But it would be nice to focus on the REAL victims for once.

        September 29, 2011 at 3:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sandy

      Jessie chose not to be interviewed. He doesn't like the spotlight. Mr. Morgan, thank you for this excellent interview. We supporters apologize for the haters, but they follow us everywhere.

      September 29, 2011 at 5:23 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • jacksonbad

        You can't hide Jessie forever, Sandy. Eventually an actual reporter will interview him and this entire fraud will collapse.

        September 29, 2011 at 5:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Michael

      He just doesnt feel comfortable right now Jessie is a very nice person leave him be

      September 29, 2011 at 7:29 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Sandy

        jacksonbad, you're a typical clueless non. Nobody's hiding Jessie. He chose not to appear. I don't think he feels particularly comfortable talking to people, and that is completely understandable given what happened to him when the WMPD forced him to talk to them. Seriously, you nons are just incredibly crazy. But you're also tedious. Please give me something new to be amused by. I can only get so much pleasure out of watching you all writhe around in your ignorance and anger. Until I get to see how totally off your rockers you go when we finally get Damien, Jason, and Jessie exonorated, please come up with some new material.

        October 1, 2011 at 12:11 am | Report abuse |
    • sdk

      I think that Misskelley has stayed out of the spotlight probably because of his family and his diminished mental abilities...the guy has an IQ of like 72 or something. I'm sure he is being shielded by his family. The same ones that allowed him to be interviewed for over 12 hours without a parent or lawyer present. I haven't read every single thing about this murder and trial, but I've kept up with it and I've lived in a small town in the 'bible belt' and I can just imagine the 'good ol boy' police/prosecution/judge mentality on top of the 'satan lover/goth/metal music' stamp that was put on these kids by the community...they didn't stand a chance until people in the real world said...Hey, something smells fishy here.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • TheIntelligentWendy

        LEARN the facts. There was never a 12 interrogation. This is a lie and Jessie confessed THREE DIFFERENT TIMES. Here is his confession TO HIS ATTORNEY.

        October 2, 2011 at 2:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • Vicki


        October 2, 2011 at 8:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • the west memphis 3 are guilty

        Let them keep talking and maybe jessie will confess again

        October 2, 2011 at 8:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Let's hear from Jesse

      They don't want Jesse to go public in the media because he would tell everyone the truth. They keep making up lies how he was "mentally retarded." The reality is he was just low academically. He was very street smart and had been in legal trouble before, so he knew what he was doing when he confessed three times. Each confession may have some differences, but the main details are correct. He had the courage and the morals to tell the truth. Jesse may minimize his part in the crimes some, but he knew what he did was wrong and abhorred what happen. Echols and Baldwin, even though they both told others they committed the crimes (Echols four time in all), like most criminals deny the crimes they were found guilty of. Let's see a TV show and movie with both sides of the story, not just that of the defense.

      October 1, 2011 at 2:18 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • TheIntelligentWendy

      Piers, Why did you NOT ask Damien and Jason any of the questions that were submitted to you by Michael Moore's father?

      October 2, 2011 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • spike

        Piers probably didn't ask Todd Moore's questions because nobody with halfa brain takes Todd Moore seriously anymore. He lost his right to be respected when he started acting like somebody out for blood and money and not like a grieving father 😛

        October 2, 2011 at 11:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • TheIntelligentWendy

      Piers Morgan was given questions to ask Damien and Jason from Michael Moore's father. Piers refused to read these questions.

      October 2, 2011 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • buttercup

        maybe Todd Moore needs to stop harrassing Damien and Jason with his stupid "questions" and start asking Terry Hobbs some questions

        October 2, 2011 at 11:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • damein is a nutjob

      Those 3 are guilty they have confessed over and over again

      October 2, 2011 at 8:08 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • The MEDIA doesn't buy this NONSENSE

      On Todd Moore's new website...
      Some one confessed to having contacted over 500 media outlets to tell the THEIR GUILTY side of this story. NOT ONE RESPONDED.

      Do you know why? Because their websites are full of garbage. Even on this new improved board they still manage to 1. Not have any members and 2. Not make any sense. and 3. Still show how filthy their mouths are.

      ATTENTION NONS: The media fact checks things before they decide to do a story. Your story no longer has any facts to check. You can continue to post they're guilty all day long. It's not going to change the fact that the facts in this case have changed. You have rejected those changes and this is all you have left, tired media assaults across the internet. You will have your work cut out for you when PL3 hits, and if it's nominated for an Oscar what then? How about when the Egoyan movie comes out next fall? You have failed to adapt, your approach has been wrong and it's too late to right that ship.

      October 3, 2011 at 10:20 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Debbie

      Why weren't John Byers dental impressions (before dentures) ever compared against the bite marks that were found on his adopted son's body (Chris Byers)? Why were the police so willing to let Chris Morgan and Brian Holland go after a confession? And what about the Mr. Bojangles guy? This case was doomed from the start. I just hope that some how, some way the victims, their families and the wrongly accused will find peace.

      August 2, 2012 at 12:58 am | Report abuse | Reply
  2. Storm

    Exactly Christina. Awesome questions.

    September 29, 2011 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  3. Storm

    Why isnt Jessie getting any supporter money? Why is it that Jessie cant pay for his bills, yet Damien and Jason are touring the United States? Why are they pushing Jessie out of everything? I think they are hoping Jessie will reoffend, then they can say..see it was him all along. Why isnt Todd Moore being interviewed on his reactions on all this? Why did Damien lie to Larry King saying his mental issues were just teenage angst? Look at his 500, it was alot more then just teenage angst.

    September 29, 2011 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Educated about the Case

      I have been following this case for a long time. I have read the 500 about Damien Echols. Sure he had a lot of serious issues as a teenager. These medical records only provided the cops with the "Satanic, Ritual, Killing " concept.........still no evidence that this was ever a satanic, cult like killing.....Another thing, Scott Ellington revealed that there was more DNA testing and they do not know whose DNA it is....He said that they have to rule out the possibility of the DNA from the West Memphis Police Department since they were all over the crime scene before the bodys were discovered. If he thinks the police could have easily left that DNA just by being there...If it is that easy, then why is there absolutely NO DNA from Damien, Jason, and Jessie.....I urge everyone to study this case....

      September 29, 2011 at 2:57 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • jacksonbad

        Here is something you really need to ask yourself, EATC. I'm serious, and no one has raised it.

        The defense waited almost seven months before it approached the State with a plea bargain offer. Their stated reason was they wanted their clients out of jail. So why wait seven months? My guess is the DNA testing did turn up something that had not been divulged to the State yet, and it wasn't helpful to the defense. Otherwise, why not wait the additional four months for the evidentiary hearing to determine if there would be a new trial? Would 11 months have been that much worse than the seven the defense waited to deal? Something happened, and we don't know exactly what it was, but it didn't come from the State...which wanted rid of this headache, obviously. The defense cannot be forced to divulge what it found. It would be nice to know, though.

        Finally, regardless of how anyone feels about the case, here is where you can get the raw datat to make a rational, reasoned decision:

        September 29, 2011 at 3:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Educated About the Case

        Jacksonbad, I am going to have to respectfully disagree...I have and conitinue to read about the case from the very website you mentioned...In all of these years, I do not feel like anybody has shown one shred of evidence that these men are guiltly.....I do not believe that the new DNA is of Damien, Jason, Jesse. If you watch the press conference explain in detail what led up to the plea agreement.

        September 29, 2011 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • jacksonbad

        I watched the press conference and it didn't add up, EATC. Again, why four months from the evidentiary hearing and yet seven months after it was ordered? That question wasn't even posed let alone answered.

        Something happened, and we eventually will know. It hasn't been explained to us yet why this fortuitous lunch date happened so long after the hearing was ordered and well into the DNA testing.

        I assumed you were familiar with callahan's. I posted it so others can reach their own conclusions independent of ours and the crap that gets pumped out by what passes for media these days. We both read the same body of evidence and arrived at different places; maybe fresh eyeballs can cause one or the other of us to take a different look at the case.

        September 29, 2011 at 4:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • raven

        I agree completely with you, Educated. I have read the raw data - the police reports, medical reports, transcripts, etc. - and it seems clear these guys were wrongly imprisoned. I look forward to Morgan's interview tonight. Jackson, you are obviously not familiar with the judicial system, and that is understandable. Things move at an incredibly slow pace. It is not like it appears on TV shows. Waiting all those months does not seem unusual at all. What a shame these men will always live with the cloud of doubt over there heads, kept there by people who simply do not understand or do not care to educate themselves. But at least those clouds will be on the outside of a prison.

        September 29, 2011 at 6:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Christina

      It's because no one wants to be around the "snitch." IMO.

      September 29, 2011 at 3:59 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • lawsquared

        I think maybe it has more to do with the fact that Damien and Jason didn't really know Jessie prior to their arrest and they obviously didn't get to spend a lot of time together in JAIL.

        September 29, 2011 at 9:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Wendy

      LOL... "Storm", tell your dumb little friend that he miscontrued that tweet he's using as "evidence". It's a sarcastic response to someone saying wm3truth is a great site. Did he honestly think the person that runs the Twitter account is like, "Oh, wow, that site was made by the prosecution!!!"? Really? Because that almost makes me embarrassed for you lot. Y'all can't even understand when sarcasm is being directed at you.

      September 30, 2011 at 10:15 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Cult killing

      There was plenty of evidence it was a cult killing. Echols was deeply involved in occult practices. There was testimony that the teenagers had cult meetings at night. Misskelley's accurate account of the crimes included cult practices. The crimes occurred on a full moon.

      The lack of DNA evidence proves little. The bodies were underwater for 18 hours after the crime. The crime scene with all of the water made it easy to clean up and hide evidence. Still Echols was seen at the scene of the crime in muddy clothes and blood on his necklace had the DNA of one of the victims.

      October 1, 2011 at 2:26 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Jane

        Regardless of guilt or innocence debate, there is no evidence at all that these were cult killings. In fact, there are few cult killings EVER. So move on to something useful.

        I think motive for these killings would be a good subject.

        October 6, 2011 at 10:24 am | Report abuse |
      • J C

        There still would have been some sort of DNA left whether on the shore, or some on the kids. There WAS DNA in the form of mitochondrial in hair left in the ligature of one of the boys and DNA in the shoes of another. Both DNA profiles did not match Misskelley, Echols or Baldwin. So, why would there be DNA of others and not the killers (to you being Misskeeley, Echols and Baldwin), being so close and restraining, stabbing, cutting and assaulting? Perhaps the DNA found was that of the killers? If that is so, the DNA profiles are not that of Echols, Baldwin or Misskelley. So, please explain that.

        October 11, 2011 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sandy

      Storm, give up already. Jessie is CHOSING to keep a low profile, and he's getting plenty of support from people. Don't talk about things that you don't know about, it only makes you look even stupider than you actually are, if that's possible.

      October 2, 2011 at 11:37 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  4. Jack Dobson

    This looks like a typical whitewash and is a bad reflection on your integrity if this clip is representative.

    Was part of the deal Misskelley couldn't appear?

    Based on what I just watched, you are a typical hack who works for a celebrity-oriented media outlet and I will cease to watch your show, not that many do.

    September 29, 2011 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • sllooper

      Damien and Jason are not legally supposed to have contact with Jessie because of some legal stipulation. This does not apply to the interractions of Damien and Jason because they were tried together. I am not a lawyer, so I don't know the exact legal terminology. But maybe a lawyer on here could explain it better. It has NOTHING to do with "not including Jessie". It's a legal order of sorts.

      September 29, 2011 at 6:57 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • TheIntelligentWendy

        This sleazy legal maneuver keeps Jessie out of media interviews. I can't wait until Jessie becomes tired of being called a "retard" and decides to write a tell-all book. The truth will be presented AGAIN in Jessie's FOURTH confession found in his book. WRITE YOUR BOOK, JESSIE!

        October 2, 2011 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
  5. WM3 Supporter

    Read the trial transcripts. Read The Devil's Knot. Burnett, Gitchell, Davis, Ridge, Griffis should be the ones in prison. Have any of you people thought that maybe Jessie just wants to be left alone? He doesn't want any publicity? Jessie will be fine... don't worry about him. Also, Pam Hobbs (Stevie Branch's mother) and John Mark Byers (Christopher Byer's step-father) fully support the innocence of Damien, Jason and Jessie. The families were lied to by the investigating detectives who were inept, incompetent and desperate. There were't just three victims... there were six.

    September 29, 2011 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Christina

      Then why was Jessie on facebook with his hand out begging for donations so he could have the lights turned on in his trailer? He sure was putting his personal issues out in a public forum – not exactly acting like someone who needs "privacy." Maybe Damien and Jason don't want to be around a "snitch" and are punishing him for squealing on them.

      September 29, 2011 at 3:49 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • sllooper

        Jessie had NOTHING to do with asking for help. That was done by the supporters who want to help these guys ease their way back into society, since their lives have been ripped away from them for the past 18 years. Just to clarify. The ONLY thing Jessie ever asked for was a possible job opportunity. Again, are just making assumptions, which is exactly what got these guys prosecuted in the first place.

        September 29, 2011 at 6:50 pm | Report abuse |
  6. randloph fox

    So you just picked up where Larry King left off, Piers? Did you even read the trial transcripts or explore Echols' extensive trial perjury (some of whch he has since admitted)? Did you ask about his history of violence and profound mental illness prior to his murder of these three boys? Is the peer pressure such you cannot even take a neutral approach to this subject?

    You once were a serious journalist, but I fear what will air tonight will destroy that image with anyone who has looked at this case objectiveley, supporter or not.

    September 29, 2011 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Jane

      There are serious journalists looking into this case, and I'm sure more articles and books will come out of it.

      October 6, 2011 at 10:37 am | Report abuse | Reply
  7. notgullible

    Will you reveal the restrictions and limitations the West Memphis Three cash machine placed on you or will that, too, be a whitewash?

    September 29, 2011 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  8. Boo

    So far most of these posts are the typical ignorant internet blather. People really ought to either study the case, or refrain from speaking on a subject they know nothing about.

    Echols is an amazing man, and I'm anxious to hear from him in a venue where he can speak openly rather than being reduced to a few sound bites. Anyone who can endure what he endured, and come out of it as good as Damien seems to have, is worth learning from.

    Speaking of learning, right after the first of the year I will enroll in the Duke University Paralegal Studies Program with a specialty in criminal defense. The case of The West Memphis Three provided the inspiration for that life altering decision.

    September 29, 2011 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Angie

      Boo, I couldn't agree more. I get so tired of reading line after line of ignorant jibberish. It's obvious they have no idea of what all happend in this case. I know if those who mouth so much about the guilt of these 3 men, would take time to read ALL of the case information, like I have numerous times, they would relay a different, much kinder story.

      September 29, 2011 at 5:14 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • raven

      Yay, Boo! I, too, am sick of the ignorance and hatred. These men lost such a huge portion of their lives. Yes, the little boys lost their lives entirely, but these were not the men who took those lives. Read the case reports. Educate yourselves. Put down the hate long enough to learn something, people.

      September 29, 2011 at 6:59 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • TheIntelligentWendy

      Life-altering decision is what occurs to those that get near the psychopathic and homicidal WM3.

      October 2, 2011 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  9. jacksonbad

    Piers, I don't want to prejudge your work based on one clip. Nonetheless, as a loyal viewer and admirer I do ask you to do another segment with those family members and researchers who have concluded these three men are, in fact, guilty. This is hardly a black and white story and after years of research I can assure you that presentation of only one side will hurt your credibility with those who have devoted time to this case.

    Here is where I have come down.

    Did these three men get a fair trial?

    They did not.

    Did these three men commit the crime?


    This can be a provocative story for you to cover if you refuse to be willfully blind.

    September 29, 2011 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Christina

      Agree! The REAL victims of this case have been overlooked.

      September 29, 2011 at 3:52 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Bill B.

        In insisting upon this you do realize that two of the victims' family members (Mark Byers – who himself was painted as the murderer in some circles for a number of years – and Pamela Hobbs, Stevie Branch's mother) now believe the WM3 are most likely innocent.

        September 29, 2011 at 6:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • sllooper

      For someone who claims to have studied the case for years, I have to say that you can't possibly be "studying" the facts. There is NOTHING that would point towards them being guilty....NOTHING. Period. And this is coming from someone who HAS read and researched and studied the FACTS for YEARS!!!!

      September 29, 2011 at 6:46 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Ted

        What about Jessie's multiple confession? One with his lawyer pleading with him not to confess.

        September 29, 2011 at 10:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sarah

        I totally agree with you! There is absolutely no physical evidence in this case. It seems that the loonies keep pointing out Misskelley's ridiculous confession, but if they really knew this case than they would realize that said confession was NOT ALLOWED to be introduced as evidence in the second trial. However, some hillbilly jury foreman took it upon himself to discuss it in the jury room, which gave the defense no opportunity to attack it's flaws. I always try really hard to respect other's differing views, but this miscarriage of justice and the nons continued legal ignorance scares the hell out of me!

        September 30, 2011 at 11:42 am | Report abuse |
    • lawsquared

      You don't have to watch. And Peirs Morgan doesn't have to listen to you. Go watch Nancy Grace, I'm sure that's more your speed.

      September 29, 2011 at 8:51 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Jane

      You mean, "Did these three boys commit " a murder. I want everyone on this board to remember that the WM3 were all teenagers at the time of the murders. They were not men.

      October 6, 2011 at 10:33 am | Report abuse | Reply
  10. Ted

    I'm sure you asked Echols some hard-hitting questions... like "what's your favorite color."

    September 29, 2011 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  11. Bryce

    Black male covered in mud and blood in the restroom of a restaurant less than a mile from the crime scene around the time the boys were murdered. Damien Echols is innocent, and the killer is out there. Plain and simple.

    September 29, 2011 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Lifer


      September 29, 2011 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ted

      There's no way that man could have done it. He was wearing a cast, how could he have restrained 3 boys? He was also bleeding profusely, how could he have walked nearly a mile from the crime scene AND not left a trail of blood? He also had a serious bout of diarrhea and was incoherent.

      September 29, 2011 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Elizabeth

        No one is suggesting the Bojangles Man did it. But maybe he stumbled onto the crime being committed by Terry Hobbs (who had his gun with him) and was shot and stumbled into the restaurant. If you want to get into physical ability to do the crime, Jason Baldwin was a complete shrimp who looked 12 but was 16... you think he hauled some kids around?? Please. Jason and Jessie both had opportunities to greatly reduce their sentences but chose not to lie and incriminate Damien. Jason could have been out after five years. Choosing to stay wrongfully incarcerated and stand by his story caused him to do another 13 years. Doesn't sound like the choice of a guilty man.

        September 29, 2011 at 8:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ted

        @ Elizabeth So who took care of his young daughter while the murders happened? And how did he clean himself up in time to pickup his wife from work?

        September 29, 2011 at 10:50 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Brannon

    Why not interview Jessie? Someone needs to ask why he confessed repeatedly, including to his own attorney. Ask him if he confessed to more people in prison.

    How come none of the WM3 have an alibi? How did Damien know that one of the boys had been castrated when that information was not yet public?

    Why did Damien describe himself as homicidal in his Social Security paperwork?

    September 29, 2011 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Angie

      Brannon, did you know that Jessie also admitted to robbing a convenience store down the street from the jail? Dan Stidham was testing him during one of their sessions. He had Jessie admitting to it in a matter of minutes. Of course, no such robbery ever took place. Just goes to show you how young people, especially those with lower IQs, can be convinced to say anything.

      September 29, 2011 at 5:03 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Brannon

        Let me correct you Angie – DAN STIDHAM said that Jessie confessed to robbing the store. Yet, when pressed in court at the Rule 37 hearing to produce this alleged taped confession, Dan could not do so. Dan Stidham is also the one who created the "Jessie is retarded" angle, because that is the only argument possible against all these confessions. But Jessie is not retarded, as evidenced by his score of 88 on an IQ test and his recent enrollment in community college. Actually, anyone can watch Jessie interact with others and know that he may be an idiot but he is not retarded.

        September 29, 2011 at 5:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Elizabeth

        @Brannon How is Jessie enrolling in Community College when he doesn't have his GED yet? Check your facts....

        September 29, 2011 at 8:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • lawsquared

        Jessie has enrolled in CC to get his GED. It's not like he's taking trigonometry or biophysics. You non supporters just take any angle don't you? Jessie had a history PRIOR to the trials as having learning issues and he was tested several times BEFORE the murders even happened. If you had researched this case you would know that already. It's not like they magically decided to label Jessie slow. There was a prior history.

        September 29, 2011 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse |


        September 30, 2011 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Angie

      Oh, and by the way, they all had an alibi.

      September 29, 2011 at 5:06 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Ted

        Not true, all their alibis were discredited in court.

        September 29, 2011 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • sllooper

        Angie you are exactly right. They in fact DID have alibi's. Damien was at home on the phone with 3 different people throughout the night, who DID verify that. Jason had mowed a neighbors yard, and was with his mother for the remainder of the night, and Jessie was at home, to which there were about 20 witnesses in his neighborhood, then he wrestled in a wrestling match out of town, to which was verified. The only alibi that "fell through" was Terri Hobbs, the same person that matches the DNA at the crime scene. INSIDE the tied knot of the less.....Hmmmmm....I smell a RAT!!!!

        September 29, 2011 at 6:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ted

        @Angie @sllooper Their alibis were thoroughly discredited, please look into it...

        September 29, 2011 at 10:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Angie

      Well of course they were discredited in court! That trial was the biggest joke I've ever seen in my life. Just admit it, that whole case smelled bad from the beginning. The WM police had no idea who killed those little boys, but they needed to put it on someone quick, and they did...three teenaged nobody's! What's sad, is that for now, the case is not going to be re-opened and the real killer(s) is still out there.

      September 29, 2011 at 5:22 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • hateondamien

        No, Damien perjured himself at trial and was caught. This admitted and convicted child murderer and love object of Piers Morgan was caught red-handed in his lies. I imagine if police would dig further they would find he committed at least a few other murders before he was caught.

        September 29, 2011 at 5:31 pm | Report abuse |
      • lawsquared

        for Hateondamien... really so the 18 year old murdered additional people. Do you people listen to yourselves when you speak? INNOCENT. if you care about the victims you would be working to find the real killer. States typically don't let "guilty" men walk out of jail with no supervision without knowing deep down that they are innocent. That plea was simply a means to an end. Arkansas doesn't get their dirty incompetence aired in public and the three get their lives back. Research this case. There is no evidence of guilt. plain and simple.

        September 29, 2011 at 6:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • John

        He might have consumed them. Psychotic schizophrenics do things like this. Research schizophrenic Ed Geins and Jeffrey Dahmer. Remember that Damien said drinking blood gave him special powers and he tried to suck the blood from another teen's wound.

        October 2, 2011 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • Damian

        I think you need to read up a little more before commenting Angie, particularly regarding the alibis and the 'robbery' confession, your completely wrong on both.

        August 2, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Report abuse |
  13. ATS559

    Mr. Morgan,

    Please ask the following tough questions that no other media dare ask of the WM3:

    Why did Jessie Misskelley confess, not just once to police after allegedly being coerced, but multiple times? In fact, after being convicted, he confessed to his attorney, despite his attorney advising him not to do this. Why? Does he have any guilt for these false confessions?

    In Paradise Lost 1, Jessie's sister calls Damien "nice," and Jessie looks at her sharply. Why?

    In Paradise Lost 1, Jason Baldwin is asked by his attorney if he thinks Damien did it, and Jason responds, "they make it seem like he did." Why did he say this?

    Many things have been said about Damien Echols' troubled past, from stomping a dog to death, to attempting to remove the eyeball of a classmate. Is any of this true?

    There have been many reports of prison guard and inmate abuse by Damien Echols. Can he talk about that?

    September 29, 2011 at 4:11 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  14. Jesse Jackson

    I have one question...and its for Damien.
    DAMIEN-How many snake spells did you and Jason attempt or perform before moving up to human sacrifice?

    September 29, 2011 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • raven

      Ugh, if that was supposed to be funny, it wasn't. If that was supposed to be sarcastic, it wasn't. It was, however, stupid, so good work on that.

      September 29, 2011 at 7:02 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  15. ATS559

    Apparently, Jessie has announced that he did not agree to be interviewed. That is his prerogative, but as far as I am concerned, he needs to speak out at some point. With those who argue that he doesn't owe anyone anything, I disagree. You can't solicit donations and funds from people and not answer some basic questions they have. That is wrong. We don't owe HIM anything.

    September 29, 2011 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Christina

      Totally agree ATS559.

      Jessie and his handlers are probably afraid of what he might let slip when interviewed and the whole house of cards will fall down. It'd be harder to shake down supporters for money if you admit you did it.

      By the way, why are they asking for SO many handouts? Didn't one "celebrity" donate over $10 million dollars?
      Where is all that money going and why is Jessie still living a trailer and can't afford to have his lights turned on while the other two are living it up?
      Aren't supporters wondering where all their hard earned money is going to?

      September 29, 2011 at 6:30 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • silence do good

        ive read jessys confessions. the police were doing a lot of directing theyd ask a question jess would answer if they didnt like the answer the police would say something like u said 2 oclock dont u meen 4 oclock and jess wold chang his storie to match the cops

        January 14, 2012 at 9:17 pm | Report abuse |
  16. Blueeyesinar

    I saw the preview of your interview with 2 of the West Memphis 3. I am from Arkansas. I am not sure whether these boys are innocent or guilty of this horrific crime. A deal was made on BOTH sides. No one but these three know the absolute truth about this crime. I find the fact that Piers Morgan fells that he can proclaim that these boys are 100% innocent to be a pompous perspective. Three little boys were murdered and he makes himself judge and jury and broadcasts it to those in America and elsewhere that watch CNN. One jury found them guilty and another jury has NOT found them innocent. Typical Hollywood. Typical "I am better and know more than you stupid Americans!" Piers should have done an interview and left it at that but instead he, once again, taints it with his unwanted personal opinion. I was not a huge fan of Larry King but CNN replaced him with this guy??? I cannot sit and watch a whole interview that he does with anyone!

    September 29, 2011 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • FunnyFaceKing

      How is it a fact that Piers Morgan proclaims that these boys are 100% innocent? Where do you get your "facts"?

      September 29, 2011 at 5:11 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  17. Sllooper

    The FACTS about this case, are available to anyone who is interested in researching it, Not JUST the supporters. If you for ONE SECOND think that a judge would allow a "convicted child killer" off of death row, that he felt was actually "guilty" are CRAZY!!! This case is FAR FROM OVER, but it's one step at a time to get justice for all of the WM6, and YES, I said *6*. There were 6 victims here, and 6 victims families. Research it people, before you make a shallow minded statement about them being GUILTY. There is not ONE thing that points guilt in their direction. Any nay-sayer out there will be eating your words in due time, this I can ASSURE you. Stay tuned people....this is far from being over!!

    September 29, 2011 at 6:35 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  18. Toomas

    The moment is not very far away when the killer-groupies of these three sadists will shut up all at once. I hope the event that shuts them up will be a verbal one and not the death of another child

    September 29, 2011 at 6:42 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • lawsquared

      what about ignorance groupies? What happens to you guys?

      September 29, 2011 at 6:44 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Angela

      Toomas, I find it very offensive that you refer to rational adults as "killer-groupies." The fact that you have to berate those with a different opinion than you speaks volume about your character. Perhaps you are one of the toothless, inbred members of aforementioned hillbilly mafia.

      October 2, 2011 at 8:40 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  19. lawsquared

    The money is being converted to a trust. Which takes time. It is in progress. IF you go to, you will see that they are requesting that donations if you would like to make them for helping the men get on their feet, be sent directly to the men at this time.
    You don't think all those DNA tests were free now do you? How bout all the experts hired, and investigators? Seriously give me a break. I'm SURE the legalities of converting the money over to help the men in there new lives is complicated and care is being taken to ensure the funds are allocated to the men while retaining the original intent of the donations.
    I have realized that 98% of everything posted here is a total friggin exaggeration or outright lie with no proof. Kinda how an Arkansas Judicial procedure works.

    September 29, 2011 at 7:09 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • John forgot to mention that Peter Jackson announced that HE paid for the last SEVEN years of Damien's defense costs. Where did the money go that Lorri collected over the last seven years from all the donations to the defense fund that she controls?

      October 2, 2011 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  20. sllooper

    I highly recommend that any of you that doubt the innocense of these three guys READ THIS. It is all the evidence collected that has been put together and makes perfect sense. Please take a second to just look it over. You can't deny the facts and they are right here. Including the "Bo Jangles" guy.

    September 29, 2011 at 7:10 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Toomas

      And then read Misskelley's confession to his own lawyer

      September 29, 2011 at 7:19 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Toomas

      September 29, 2011 at 7:21 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • lawsquared

        which still didn't make any sense. Was the reason I became a Supporter. It's incoherent. It's illogical, and its laughable at best. At this same time Jessie was being contacted by the prosecutors who were trying to literally bribe him into testifying for the prosecution in Damien and Jason's case. They repeatedly violated his attorney client privledge, 5th and 6th ammendment rights. All Jessie wanted was to go home. The most telling part is the fact that he in fact DID not testify.

        September 29, 2011 at 7:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • Toomas

        Your reaction was crap, because this link I put there is photocopies of official transcription MISSKELLEY*'S CONFESSION TO HIS OWN ATTORNEY AND AFTER HIS CONVICTION. His own attorney told also Misskelley not to confess this, but MISSKELLEY WANTED TO CONFESS THIS. Read it, you lovers of sadistic childkillers

        September 30, 2011 at 5:01 am | Report abuse |
  21. Elizabeth

    Thanks for all the ignorant comments from the haters who KNOW NOTHING about this case!! Your ignorance made me smile!!!!

    September 29, 2011 at 7:22 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Toomas

      I wonder if you smile at Misskelley's account of the events too.

      September 29, 2011 at 7:28 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • lawsquared

        Sure they do. They are completely illogical. So yes smart people find them hilarious. The only sad thing is that the state of Arkansas thought that was a real confession and that they were more interested in having a salacious satanistic murder and moving up the career ladder than solving the murder of three little boys.

        September 29, 2011 at 7:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • Elizabeth

        Have you ever studied the psychology of false confessions? This was a teenage kid who's borderline retarded, grilled for over 12 hours and deprived of a parent or lawyer during his "questioning." If the interrogation was so legit, why wasn't the entire thing recorded? He recanted and refused to testify against the other two when it would have benefited him GREATLY. If you've actually studied the case and still believe the ridiculous theory of the crime by the WMPD, I congratulate you on figuring out how to operate a computer.

        September 29, 2011 at 7:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • Toomas

        Echols will kill again. May be not tomorrow but as soon as he will be out of the limelights he will do it to get back there. And watching him yesterday on the show – he is too stupid to do anything except torturing, ans he is still a wacko like when he murdered those children. Misskelley may be slow but Echols is a sick fcuk

        September 30, 2011 at 5:37 am | Report abuse |
      • Damian

        Exactly!! He confessed 3 times but apparently that doesn't count according to all of these child killer supporters!!! It's a disgrace that people put so much effort into supporting these three and hardly even mention the poor children who were murdered!! It's sickening

        August 2, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Michael Gosa

    For all you haters out there Ive lived in west memphis and still do before you say something about someone get educated ai personally know these guys they did not do this there is no evidence leading to them I am so sick and tired of the idiots that act like they know when they read these web sites there is so much crap going around once again these guys are innocent The WMPD are nothing but frauds I should know I live here

    September 29, 2011 at 7:37 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  23. Michelle

    wow, I cannot believe the comments from some of the people on this page. Seems you "nons" only have one thing against the WM3, that's Jessie's confessions, okay, well we already know that, it's no secret there, he "confessed" because he wanted the reward money, the only thing he claimed to have confessed to was catching Michael Moore and watching the beginning of the murders. If anyone in their right mind listened to the confession then you would know what junk it is. Secondly, Damien's mental health records? Really, okay, so I tried to commit suicide when I was younger, I was depressed, hmmm.... I guess I'm a murderer. Thirdly, the whole dog bashing and poking out an eye thing was rumors, none of it was reported. All three of them had alibi's, there's even a picture of Jessie with 2 other wrestlers taken on the night of the murders. If anyone bothered to read any evidence or court transcripts or even callahans knows that their alibi was confirmed. Basically what happened is the WM police botched this case, it was during the satanic hysteria, they wanted someone to blame, town became restless, they had to solve this crime. There isn't any evidence, none, I've read some of the crap on the sites that claims to have evidence, and it's just as I call it, crap. The state knew that in December they would have lost the case, there's no evidence proving this. You really think that if these men commited this crime that they would be able to walk amongst us? The very people that you stand so firmly in believing? If you can bring on the evidence that proves they are guilty well I'm down for a real discussion, but I don't think that can happen. So until you actually inform yourself on the case, actually read info, such as callahans then you would know that they are innocent. Three boys deserve justice and ignorance that you spew isn't going to help.

    September 29, 2011 at 9:08 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • lawsquared


      September 29, 2011 at 9:39 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Firewoman

      Thank you!

      September 29, 2011 at 10:06 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Todd Moore

      Michell, are you really that stupid? I would hope not but then again you people come and go over the past 18 yrs and once you really find the truth you go away knowing the right ones were in prison and shamefully fade away into history as so many before you have done.

      September 29, 2011 at 10:30 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Michelle

        No Todd, not stupid but I do know how to read, I have done my fair share of reading. I went into the case years ago with an open mind, putting the docs aside. I've read all that I can, from several boards, even the wm3 hoax board. I feel sorry for you Todd, I do. I understand that you in your heart believe everything that you've been told and that's fine. What I don't understand is that you don't even look at new evidence, you shut it down. You can't even have a simple conversation or debate and not even act negative, when I did go to the hoax site everything is so disgusting. No one can have a simple conversation without threatening or cussing or just being nasty. I understand that you've been through a lot, I could never imagine, nor am I going to. You seem like an intelligent man, but you act so ignorant. I'm on your side as far as justice goes, unfortunatly your son hasn't had that, and I fight for the 3 boys. I don't think I'm going to say anything more because your going to turn this into some ignorant rant and tell me I'm ignorant and blah blah blah, with several curse words. As I have said before, you give me proof and we can have a discussion, but I somehow don't think that you can do that.

        September 29, 2011 at 11:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • Lisa

        First and foremost, I am so sorry for your loss and am haunted by the horrible way that your precious son was murdered. That being said, I really think that you need a great deal of help. Every word that I read from you is filled with hate and threats of violence. I think that your anger and loss has prevented you from seeing what is right in front of you. There is just absolutely no proof that the convicted men are the ones who brutualized your child and his friends. I do support the West Memphis Three, but more importantly I support justice for your beautiful child. I hope that you are able to eventually find some peace and that the real killers are brought to justice.

        September 30, 2011 at 4:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • Pixie

        Todd, do you and Dana NOT want to find out who really killed your son? It's odd that you nons throw words like "baby-killer groupies" at us and yet we are the only ones trying to find true justice for your son and his friends. Don't you want to honor your son by finding out the truth?

        October 1, 2011 at 12:33 am | Report abuse |
    • Ted

      That WAS NOT A RUMOR Michelle!!! Baldwin's OWN COUSIN told investigators about the dog Echols had beaten to death and mutilated. Why the fu*k would he say that unless it were TRUE!? And Misskelley didn't confess just once, but THREE TIMES. Once, AFTER he was convicted and sentenced, with his lawyer pleading with him not to! Why would he do that!!!

      September 29, 2011 at 11:17 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • lawsquared

        This is not the farm. We don't curse in public. It makes it difficult for people to listen to you as well. Uh the killing the dog thing was not proven it was heresay... just like the chick at the skating rink hearing Damien in her mind, just like Damien walking around with intestines around his neck. Seriously EVIDENCE. It's not hearsay. The word is evidence... I ammend my later statement the only thing you guys have is the 500, the "confessions" and the dog story, oh and name calling.

        September 29, 2011 at 11:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ted

        @lawaquared Is it lonely up on your pedestal?

        Look, Echols even said himself that he may have bragged about the killings... “I might have said it, but it wasn’t because I did it. I was a teenager. People were saying a lot of stuff about me. But I might have said it joking around.” I don't think he was 'joking around.'

        AND explain to me why Baldwin's cousin would say that? His OWN COUSIN was suspected of murdering three boys. Why on Earth would you say anything about Echols killing and mutilating a dog? This was his cousin's friend, it wouldn't look good for his cousin... that he hung out with a guy that stomped a dog to death and cut out its innards. It would be like saying you hung out with Jeffery Dahmer.

        Please, please explain to me why he would say that?!

        September 30, 2011 at 9:37 am | Report abuse |
      • lawsquared

        I'll post it up here as well. That statement about the dog was given and did not implicate Jason. It implicated Damien only and the said incident occured a year before as in 1992. It is ALLEGED because it was not proven to have happened. Again some silly little girls at the skating rink gave a statement about Damien being in her mind. So if you are trying to convince me of this actually happening find me a dead dog owner. Great Danes aren't cheap. They are an expensive breed. Where is the missing animal report or the criminal complaint of said animal existing. There isn't one. If you're going to post all over the internet about things you obviously don't know much about you should think thru your arguments. That incident even in the small chance that it happened would have NO bearing on the murders since it was never proven to have actually occured. Did you ever stop to consider that since everyone knew they were seriously gunning for Damien that Jason's extended family was trying to place blame on Damien to save Jason? Because that's where i believe this completely unprovable claim came from. Until you provide proof that it actually happened, it is hearsay from a teenager. Many teens came forward during this investigation spouting just as unprovable and completely ridiculous claims.

        September 30, 2011 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
  24. The Truth about Echols

    Echols’ psychiatric records –
    about his history of violence and drinking blood
    also see

    September 29, 2011 at 10:14 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • lawsquared

      Really The 500 and the confession which has been refuted time and time again, is the only thing you guys have to hold on to. So it is your estimation then that all confused, maladjusted teenagers are murderers then? I know plenty of people with mental health histories far more damning and disturbing. I fully believe much of that was exaggerated, and acting out. But then you wouldn't know anything about that would you? Especially considering your obsession is 3 men who were wrongfully convicted for a crime. The mental health stuff isn't evidence of a crime. If it was then i know some folks who should be locked up.

      September 29, 2011 at 10:20 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Ted

        It's not simply a confession, but CONFESSIONS!!! Once with his lawyer present pleading with him not to confess!!! In his third confessions (after he was convicted and sentenced) he really wanted to get things off his chest. He even told his lawyer he had thrown a whiskey bottle over a bridge on the way back home after the murders. His lawyer went out to find the bottle and it was exactly where he told them. Explain that!!!

        September 29, 2011 at 11:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • lawsquared

        OMG no way they found a liquor bottle under an overpass!!!! NO WAY!

        Seriously i know some underpasses, they all have broken bottles under them. I'm pretty sure that finding a bottle a year later isn't really admissible evidence.

        September 30, 2011 at 12:23 am | Report abuse |
      • Ted

        Well, you skipped giving an explanation for three confessions, so I guess you're as bewildered as I am.

        And you're right, the bottle doesn't prove the WM3 killed those boys, just like the hairs found at the crime scene don't prove Hobbs committed the murders either.

        But why would Miskelley tell his own lawyer to look for that bottle–regardless of whether or not he threw the bottle there? He really wanted to make it clear he was there, he was insisting on his guilt, that's why he asked for the Bible too.

        September 30, 2011 at 7:55 am | Report abuse |
      • Michelle

        The confessions are still crap, I think after seeing pictures and going through trial and hearing rumors I could even confess and make it believable. Jessie really thought he was going to get out of it and go home, maybe even the reward money. I am not convinced, you can throw the confessions around all day but after reading them and listening I am just not convinced. Yet you still have no physical evidence, none.

        September 30, 2011 at 8:27 am | Report abuse |
  25. susan

    Every time I hear Damien/Lorrie say that he has to learn to eat with a fork again, I start laughing. If you have learned to use a fork and then quit using one at 18 years, do you really have to be told with end of it goes into your mouth when you take up the practice again. Damien is so full of s**t. Oh, and he is learning to walk again. HAHA. How long before he "learns" to kill again??

    September 29, 2011 at 10:39 pm | Report abuse | Reply

    This interview was a lot like the interview with Goldie Hawn, Piers. Lots of ass kissing and no hard qestions. These are three CONVICTED child killers who have PLED GUILTY to their crimes. I get that you don't like the death penalty, but where was the "interview" here? Let's all feel sorry for the killers and just skim over the evidence in the case and dead kids 'cause that would be rather uncomfortable to talk about, wouldn't it?
    By the way, wasn't a condition of release that all of these murderers get an education and/or a job? What the hell is Damien waiting for? Oh yeah, I forgot, the supporters are still begging money from the kool aid drinkers to support these three losers...

    September 29, 2011 at 10:56 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • lawsquared

      Yes. They agreed to an alford plea or as called in legal circles a CYA plea. CYA being that the state gets a fake win, while ensuring that the three are never able to sue the state of Arkansas for their laughable handling of this case. If you put your faith in the guilt of the Three, you put your faith in shoddy police work, railroading, tunnel vision, satanism, Bad judges and a broken legal system that was Arkansas in 1993.
      In the alford plea which is a technical guilty plea where they plead that the state may have enough evidence to convict them but they maintain their innocence. I know that's hard to wrap your brain around. EVEN MORE ironic is the fact that the prosecuter Mr. Ellington stated after the hearing on the 19th that if a new trial was granted he was pretty sure the three would be acquitted. So really ask yourself how strong that evidence was for a prosecutor to make that statement.

      September 29, 2011 at 11:08 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • KENNEDY

        Alford Plea = put your sorry cards on the table, but just keep on telling everyone it's a royal flush
        Once you're found guilty by a jury of your peers in America, then you either suffer the consequences or you try and then prove that you are innocent. They have not proven they are innocent and they never will.

        September 29, 2011 at 11:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • lawsquared

        I'm not playing cards I'm talking law. The Alford Plea just enabled three men to walk out of jail it's legal. It's done. They are out. So yes you can, obviously, walk out of jail if you are wrongfully convicted and the state doesn't want to admit they were wrong. It just happened. And once again... do you think the state of Arkansas would let three convicted child murderers out of jail with no pre-release counseling, no post release supervision, no psychiatric or therapy requirement, if they actually believed them guilty? The answer is no, no they would not. The state was under NO obligation to do this. None. it could have said no, and we wouldn't be here talking aobut this.

        September 30, 2011 at 12:04 am | Report abuse |
  27. lawsquared

    see, that's all you non supporters can do. Post ignorant stuff, call people names. This is why you can't be taken seriously. Where is the proof of guilt? Where is the damning evidence that would withstand under the scrutiny of the world this time and a jury of 12 not so easily fooled individuals? Where is it? Evidence doesn't evaporate over time. Usually if you're guilty MORE evidence is eventually found to further damn you. I think we all need to focus on reopening this case and finding out who really did this. I for one will NEVER forget this case. I will never forget the victims and i want them to have the justice that has been denied them for over 18 years.

    September 29, 2011 at 11:00 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ted

      You know why we call you names? It's because you haven't bothered to look at all the evidence! The evidence is mainly Misskelley's MULTIPLE confessions (with details), their lack of alibis, and Echols violent and disturbed mental history.

      September 29, 2011 at 11:24 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • lawsquared

        Oh ok. Let me break it down for you AGAIN.

        Jessies multiple confessions were incorrect. Jessie never gave an accurate accounting of the crime. This is a fact. His later confessions were not used against Damien and Jason. He actually stopped confessing once he realized he really wasn't going to get out of jail no matter what he did at that time. Anyone who wonders please google the confessions better yet find the audio. Then look at the layout of the crime scene. See the distance the boys would have had to go to get to the woods based off of their timeline of events on May 5 1993.

        Their Alibi's were not impeached or proven faulty. They were solid. They never deviated. They were backed up by family and friends as most 16 17 and 18 year olds alibi's would be. I mean what do you want? Receipts? Lottery Tickets? Who else is going to back up their alibi's? Jessie had his picture taken at a wrestling match what more do you want?
        I think it's problematic to rational individuals that you guys ask people to throw incredulity out the window. There was no dna here. There is no physical evidence tying the three to this crime. There is evidence tying OTHERS to this crime at the scene. So we should throw that out? How do you explain David Jacoby's DNA on the tree stump? He's not related to any of the boys. If you want to deal with facts, those are facts. DNA doesn't lie. And you want me to believe that three teenagers committed this crime and left not a hair, not a print, not a shoe print, not a drop of blood, NOTHING. Seriously. I'm gullible sometimes but i'm not that gullible.

        September 29, 2011 at 11:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • lawsquared

        I'm just here to make sure people don't leave this page listening to the rantings that the handful of you left litter all over the internet to make sure you get your point across. If you are truly interested in this case read... read... read... ask your self if it's logical.... for most people it won't be.

        September 29, 2011 at 11:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • Michelle

        okay, you've mentioned the confessions several times, we get that. Lack of alibi's? Really? There alibi's have been verified. It's also on callahans. Mental health? Really? Your using that? wow.... There are millions of people with mental health issues, doesn't mean they go and kill 3 kids.... Every bit of this is public knowledge, none of that puts physical evidence that Damien, Jessie, and Jason were there.... I want evidence, your giving me crap that most people have.... Jessie has the mentality of a child. It's so easy to get a child to confess to something, whether they did it or not, you keep bugging a child long enough they are going to say yes I did it so they can get out of it. I can't tell you the things I had to fess up to as a teenager or a child just to get my dad to shut up. Oh my arrest me now, I'm a murderer in the making.

        September 29, 2011 at 11:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ted

        You're right. Jessie said some things that weren't true in his first confession. He later told investigators he said those things as part of a ruse to throw them off. Reread his first confession... he's trying to downplay his involvement. He keeps telling them he'd left but then goes on to explain what furthered happened in the woods.

        And NO... their alibis were thoroughly ripped apart in court.

        Misskelley made three other confessions after he was convicted and sentenced, so apparently he didn't put too much stock in his alibi witnesses. Echols alibi witnesses exposed obvious contradictions under cross-examination. Baldwin didn't even bother to provide alibi witnesses at trial.

        Funny how you say non-supporters want lottery tickets and receipts for solid alibis, as if it's some sort of impossible standard to meet, then go on to say there was no physical evidence linking the WM3 to the murders (and no one else for that matter). But isn't that the same sort of standard you find ridiculous to meet? People like OJ Simpson, Rober Blake and Casey Antony go free because people mistakenly believe that all crimes have tons of forensic evidence linking the perpetrator to the crime.

        September 30, 2011 at 9:14 am | Report abuse |
      • lawsquared

        Either you think Jessie was a satanist or you don't. why would a satanist swear anything on a bible. A true satanist would have no regard nor place any importance on a bible of all books. Another reason why this is totally and completely illogical.

        September 30, 2011 at 11:32 am | Report abuse |
      • Ted

        @ lawsquared I don't think Jessie is a satanist, and I don't think these murders had anything to do with a sacrifice. All three of them may have been interested in the occult, but I believe the murders were simply a thrill-kill

        September 30, 2011 at 11:38 am | Report abuse |
      • Sarah

        Ted, I am a supporter and have definately looked at all the evidence. While I am not formally trained in law, I am a rational, educated human being. Based on all my research, I just don't see proof beyond a reasonable doubt. I respect that you don't see things the same way as me, but your aggressive, personal attacks seem a bit over the top.

        September 30, 2011 at 12:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • silence do good

        his multiply confessions were led from police to directing him what to say period. inbred scary cops bascily telln jess to go allong with us or well make you squell like a pig. got to love the south

        January 14, 2012 at 9:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • Damian

        I really cannot understand how so may people can suggest ignoring 3 confessions. I can understand people saying he wasn't the cleverest person in the world but that could surely just explain why small details changed within the confessions!! And as for the alibis Damien admitted to lying at his alibis to fit with the evolving case, he admitted it!! Why doesn't that count for anything!! I think people are right to question the case but to simply deny the possibility of guilt is an insult to the poor victims, and when I say victims I mean the little children who were murdered, something most people seem to ignore on here

        August 2, 2012 at 5:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • kire8181


        Link or GTFO

        August 2, 2012 at 9:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • Damian


        What's your problem?

        August 3, 2012 at 6:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • kire8181


        you don't have a link

        that's YOUR problem

        August 3, 2012 at 7:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Damian

        @kire8181 what on earth are you talking about? Do you have a point or are just a troll? Everything I claim is based on footage from conversations with Echols and evidence in the trial, I don't need to provide a link for anything. If you want to discuss any of my points then go ahead but don't just get abusive just because you can hide behind a keyboard

        August 4, 2012 at 4:34 am | Report abuse |
      • kire8181


        Pretty please, with sugar on top, can you provide a link or a source to what you are saying?

        Even if Damien Echols did "lie to fit the evolving case" as you claim, no person in the history of the United States has gotten the death penalty. Lie about what, mind you? That's all, I'm asking. This is serious stuff and you're getting all morally indignant because I said GTFO. You should GTFO if you want to punish these boys and you can't (or won't) even try to provide a legitimate source to back up your emotional claims. Poor baby. You get your feelings hurt? Try living in solitary confinement for what, eighteen years. Who gives a flying F about your feelings? I don't.

        August 4, 2012 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
  28. Daisy

    Shame on you, Piers! Absolutely no objectivity was displayed. Clearly no research was done on your part. The information is all readily available to those who would just take the time to read it. I was once convinced of the innocence of the WM3 based solely on what I had "heard". My opinion quickly changed once I began to read the information for myself. Arm yourself with the actual facts and then make an informed decision, people. And for God's sake Piers, run another piece on this and present some objective FACTS.

    September 29, 2011 at 11:00 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  29. Wendy

    Be sure to check out the website of Todd Moore, father of one of the victims. Sad to watch a grown man behave that way...

    September 29, 2011 at 11:02 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  30. syl

    Was that Damien Echols, or his alter-ego Bella Lugosi?????

    September 29, 2011 at 11:49 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  31. jacksonbad

    Wow, you either have the most inept producer imaginable or you are a compulsive liar. Echols certainly was allowed to lie with impunity, and you either were too ignorant or too complicit to fact check him.

    I watched you every now and then. No more.

    You have managed to make my estimate of Ms. O'Donnell rise by about 1000 percent. Only a moron wouldn't walk off the steaming pile of dung and lies that pass for your "show."

    September 29, 2011 at 11:56 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  32. Storm

    Are you kidding me, Todd Moore is the only parent besides Dana that has been adult, and respectable about this whole freakin thing. He didnt sell out on his child for money. He is trying to get justice for his son, one of the VICTIMS! How dare anyone say anything about this man. You have not walked in this mans shoes, and felt the emotions and crap he has had to deal with. How would you feel if the man you felt tortured and murdered your son was sitting right next to you? People need to back off Todd!!

    September 30, 2011 at 12:41 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Michelle

      Back off Todd huh? It was him that posted on our comments, respectable? Really, can you show me where this can be found? I have gone back and read his comments on these pages and he hasn't said anything that I would take as being respectful. I don't understand the pain he has and is going through, I couldn't even begin to imagine. He's lived through the parents worse nightmare, over and over again. Whether we are on the same side or oposing sides, we all want the same thing. Justice for Stevie, Michael, and Christopher. I just don't understand why he would shoot down evidence, doesn't want to hear it but yet the first person to try to discredit it, why not? What's it going to hurt, his child is one of the victims.

      September 30, 2011 at 1:09 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • silence do good

        i think that the people surounding the case should see look up deeds or proprites the hobbs and mark byer may have ownd or shared lot people think the bodies were killd some else and dropd in the hill they should checkd hobbs and byers trucks and propertys for dna

        January 14, 2012 at 9:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Wendy

      "Storm", if I had a child that was brutally murdered, and the men who were convicted for that crime were set free by my own government due to more evidence coming out post-conviction and my own government's representatives feeling that they were incapable of winning a new trial against those men using the same evidence they had used to convict those men...

      Well, honestly? That would prompt me to take a long, hard look at ALL of the evidence. Not just the evidence that supported my belief that they were the killers. Because if my government is releasing those men from prison, there must be a reason, and rather than close my eyes to any new information about how my child died and who caused him to die so young and so horribly, I'd want to know what that reason was. I'd want to know WHY the prosecution felt the case was too shaky. I'd want to SEE the new evidence that made them feel like they couldn't re-convict these men. Why doesn't Todd want to know the truth?

      I've seen it said on your group's little message board that prosecutor Scott Ellington didn't even read the case files and knows none of the facts. Can any of you back that up with some actual evidence, like an interview where he says that? I just read a lengthy interview with him from August 23 in the Paragould Times, maybe you need to give that a slow, careful reading.

      By the way, "Storm", please do pass a message on to your friend David K., the owner of wm3truth. You folks seem to have the idea that Mara Leveritt thinks David works for the prosecution in this case. What she actually wrote in the article where she mentioned his site was that she likes his site because it takes the evidence the State used to convict the men and it lays that evidence out in a manner like that of a run-of-the-mill prosecutor, and because of that you can see how the prosecution's case is flawed and does not hold up to scrutiny. I have to admit, I do find it pretty amusing that you folks misconstrued that so badly, and that it's touted as a badge of honor. And you wonder why no journalist has taken any of you seriously yet, and listened to your lists of "facts" about their oh so obvious guilt?

      September 30, 2011 at 1:33 am | Report abuse | Reply
  33. No Dice

    This seems interesting.,10852.0.html

    September 30, 2011 at 12:56 am | Report abuse | Reply
  34. Kelly

    Piers-Thank you for another good interview. I also appreciated Michael Moore interview earlier in the week. Good job! This was a tough interview because these men have suffered unnecessarily for a very long time.Justice is not about cruelty. American cannibalism by words has to end with true discourse. Integrity. Well done tonight! CKelly.

    September 30, 2011 at 1:10 am | Report abuse | Reply
  35. Toomas

    Jeremy Clarkson hit Morgan not without reason

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  36. Michelle

    Their alibis were mot ripped apart, the WM police dept and Damien and Jason's lawyers didn't verify anything. The whiteness he had before are still defending their statements today. Unfortunately because phone records were not.pulled at the time so we just have the word of the witnesses. Jessie's alibi has been proven, via pictures and everyone at highland trailer park. I find it hard to believe that he was seen talking to several people including a police officer in Marion at 6:30, make his way on feet to the crime scene and commit this crime in the dark and be able to walk all the way back home and leave no trace of evidence, no blood found at their homes nothing. Plus no witnesses have seen him there.

    September 30, 2011 at 10:02 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ted

      You're forgetting, Jason didn't even bother providing alibi witnesses at trial.

      When he took the stand at his trial, Echols agreed to the alibi his mother had arranged: Pam, Joe and Michelle picked up Damien and Domini around 4:00 PM; later Pam, Joe, Michelle and Damien visited the Sanders together; aside from that visit, Damien stayed home all evening. However, the alibi collapsed in this exchange between Echols and prosecutor Brent Davis during cross-examination.

      Q. Your mother testified that when you were down at the police station, one of the things she told you was, we’ve got some alibis, correct?

      A. Yes.

      Q. She’s testified that the same day the police talked to you, or maybe it was your sister, that that is when you first started discussing among the family about the details of those alibis, correct?

      A. Yes, sir.

      Q. When the police talk with you on the tenth, at that point in time you tell them from 3:00 to 5:00 is when you think you were at the Sanders’, is that right?

      A. I probably told him that then.

      Q. That was about five days after the boys had turned up missing that you told him it was around 3:00 to 5:00?

      A. I probably told him that if it’s in the report.

      Q. When your mom tells him something, it is about five to six or five to six-thirty, okay?

      A. (NODS HEAD)

      Q. As time moves on and the time period that is in question becomes later that evening, the visit to the Sanders’ becomes later that evening, correct?

      A. Yes, sir.

      Q. So the story kind of changes to fit the facts we need to cover, right?

      A. Yes, sir.

      The jury obviously didn’t believe the “visiting the Sanders” alibi.

      None of the four girls Damien claimed he had phone conversations with testified at trial. And in statements to police, none confirmed talking to Damien between 5:00 and 9:20 PM.

      And your wrong about the police officer reporting that Misskelley was at the trailer at the time of the murders. All three police officers who had responded to the disturbance call at the trailer park — James Dollahite, Joe McCafferty and Jason Oliver — testified that they did not recall seeing Misskelley Jr. there.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:16 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Michelle

        I have read this. I have also read the statements provided from the girls that did talk to Damien on the phone so you are incorrect. Debunked, there are statements.

        September 30, 2011 at 11:40 am | Report abuse |
      • lawsquared

        DAMIEN TIMELINE: May 5th, 1993

        11am – Damien had an appointment at East Arkansas Mental Health Center.

        1pm – Pam Hutchison said she dropped Damien off at Domini's after a doctor's appointment and after she dropped a prescription off at the pharmacy.

        3:45pm – Michelle said she went with Joe and Pam to pick up Damien and Domini from the laundrymat.

        Pam Hutchison confirms she received a call from Damien at about 3:45pm to come to the laundrymat on Missouri Street to pick him up. Jason was at his uncle's, mowing the lawn.

        Joe Hutchison confirms this as well.

        He said they picked up Damien and Domini only. No one else was with them.

        Pam said at 4pm she dropped Domini off at her trailer.

        4 – 4:30pm – stopped at the Marion Discount Pharmacy to pick up meds for Damien.

        (In Pam's first statement she said she dropped off a prescription for Damien in the early afternoon of May 5th and picked it up the next morning. The police did not check with the pharmacy to see what time/date the prescription was filled.

        Pam confirms in a subsequent interview she did pick up Damien's medication on May 5th at about 4:30pm.

        Joe H. confirms trip to the pharmacy.

        3:30-4pm – Jennifer Bearden said she spoke to Damien and Holly George on a three-way line.

        Holly confirms this call took place at 3:30pm.

        Damien told her to call him back in 30 minutes at Jason's.

        4:30pm – Jennifer called Damien at Jason's. Jason answered the phone and they talked for about 5 minutes. Jason was playing video games with his little brother Matt and said they were going to go somewhere.

        Talked from for about 20 minutes around the 4:30pm timeframe.

        4:30pm – Hubert Bartoush said that Jason came over to mow his lawn. He then states Jason was alone at his house until 6:30pm, when he left to go to Walmart to play video games. No mention of Ken, Damien, or Domini despite all other accounts to the contrary.

        Hurbert said that on another date Domini, Damien, and Jason came to mow the lawn, but he didn't know what date that was.

        4:45pm – Joe H. said the Sanders called him at home and asked the family over to their house. At first he said no, but changed his mind later.

        5:30 – 6pm – Pam, Joe, Michelle, and Damien ate supper.

        6:30pm – Pam Hutchison said Damien, Joe, and Michelle went with her to the Sanders house.

        7pm – 7:30pm Damien went to Jennifer Sanders house, stayed for about 30 minutes. Jennifer and Michelle watched Beverly Hills 90210.

        Joe H. confirms but says he cannot remember if Damien was there or not (His interview did not take place until September/six months after the murders).

        Jennifer and Michelle remembered it was Wednesday because Beverly Hills 90210 was on. This show was on Wednesdays until June of 1993 when it changed to Tuesdays.

        Stacy Sanders (Jennifer's sister) confirmed they came over that Wednesday and that her parents had gone to Splash Casino. She also remembered the time based on 90210 coming on (at 7pm). She said they left at about the mid-point of the show.

        7:45-8pm – Damien and family returned home.

        Confirmed by Joe. He says after they got home girls were calling for Damien.

        Jennifer Bearden said she tried to call Damien at around 8pm and the grandmother answered. She told her to try back at 9pm because Damien wasn't there.

        8-10:30 – Damien was on the phone. First talked to Holly and then Jennifer Bearden, beginning at about 9:20pm.

        Jennifer confirmed she was on the phone with Damien and Jason until about 9:30pm.

        9:30pm – Damien talked to Jason on the phone.

        10pm – Damien called Domini and they argued on the phone for an hour about Jason and his girlfriend, Holly. Domini said Holly kept calling Damien to cry about Jason.

        10 – 10:45pm – Damien was on the phone, according to Pam.

        So this doesn't mean anything then? Give me a break.

        September 30, 2011 at 11:44 am | Report abuse |
      • Ted

        Anything that happened before 6:30 p.m. is not relevant to this conversation. Where were they at the time of the murders is what I'm concerned with. Thank you for providing links to their alibi witness statements, but they were all discredited in court.

        Jason’s alibi

        On 6/4, the day after the arrests, Gail and Terry Grinnell, Jason Baldwin’s mother and stepfather, told police that school records showed Jason took the bus home from school around 3:00 or 3:30 PM on May 5. Jason then mowed his uncle’s lawn from 4:30 to 6:00 or 6:30 PM on 5/5, accompanied by Ken Watkins and Damien. After getting paid for mowing the lawn, Jason went with Ken to Walmart to play videogames, then came home around 7:30 PM. Neither Gail or Terry Grinnell actually saw Jason get home that night, because Gail was at work and Terry was living temporarily with his mother.

        On 6/14, Jasons’s uncle, Hubert Bartoush, told police (statement, report) that Jason had mowed his lawn on Wednesday 5/5 between 4:30 and 6:30 PM. The uncle said that Jason was alone, not accompanied by Damien or Domini or Ken.

        On 9/23, Jason’s mother, Gail Grinnell again said that Jason mowed his uncle’s lawn that day from 4:30 to 6:30 PM, accompanied by Damien, Domini and Ken. Damien and Domini left first, then Jason and Ken walked to Walmart to play videogames, then walked home. Also on 9/23, Jason’s brother, Matthew Baldwin, told police that Jason came home that night around 7:30 with Ken Watkins.

        However, Ken Watkins told a different story in his 9/16 interview. Watkins said that he, Damien, Domini and Jason walked from Jason’s house to Walmart around 4:00 PM that day, and that he (Watkins) walked back home alone around 5:30 PM to babysit. After his polygraph, Watkins added a detail to his earlier story: when he left Walmart at 5:30 that day, “They said they was going to the bowling alley.” (Not clear who “they” included; he mentioned Damien, Jason, Domini and L.G. Hollingsworth being at Walmart before he left.) Watkins told police that Jason mowed his uncle’s lawn on Saturday or Sunday, not that Wednesday.

        In his first recorded statement on 9/16, Watkins said he met up again with Damien, Domini and Jason around 7:00 PM on 5/5/93 at Jason’s house. In his second recorded statement, detective Ridge asked Watkins again if he saw Damien and Jason that evening, which led to this incomprehensible exchange.

        Ridge- Okay. When you got home, and then you went back over to Jason’s house, at what time?

        Kenneth- About 6:45.

        Ridge- And no one was there?

        Kenneth- His mom’s boyfriend. He said that they wasn’t home yet. And I went back over there, finished watching the show. Then a little bit after that, I went over there to see if they were home ago.

        Ridge- What was the show you were watching?

        Kenneth- It was a movie.

        Ridge- On T.V.?

        Kenneth- Yeah.

        Ridge- Was it a rental movie?

        Kenneth- Huh uh. It was a movie on T.V. It’s like a series.

        Ridge- It’s like a one hour show?

        Kenneth- It’s a half and hour show. Let’s see, I watched Full House, then watched something else, and I went over there.

        Ridge- What kind of movies do you normally like to watch on Wednesday evenings?

        Kenneth- King-fu, and …

        Ridge- Timetracks?

        Kenneth- No, I don’t like Timetracks that much. I usually watch that, I don’t even watch much T.V.

        Ridge- 90210.

        Kenneth- Uh uh.

        Ridge- You don’t like it?

        Kenneth- I don’t watch much T.V.

        Ridge- Alright, did you watch Kung-fu…

        Kenneth- Uh uh…

        Ridge- That night?

        Kenneth- I watched Bonanza. And then (inaudible) that Bonanza was on.

        Ridge- Okay, how long were you there at Jason’s?

        Kenneth- Just about 2 hours.

        Ridge- That evening.

        Kenneth- Yeah. And when I got home, I went back over there and we stayed about 2 hours and I came home, and was watching Bonanza, and I watched part of it, and I went to sleep on the couch.

        Can you piece together a coherent timeline from that? I can’t. The relevant questions are: Did you see Jason and Damien that evening? And if so, what time did they return to Jason’s home? This exchange doesn’t clarify those questions in the slightest.

        Either way, Ken Watkins 9/16 statements contradicted both Echols’ alibi (that Damien was with his parents continuously from 3:45 PM onward that day, at home and at the Sanders house) and Baldwin’s alibi (that Jason mowed his uncle’s lawn from 4:30 to 6:30 PM, then went to Walmart with Ken, then walked home).

        Jason Baldwin’s defense lawyers didn’t have much confidence in their client’s alibi. They did not call Hubert Bartoush, Ken Watkins, Matt Baldwin or anyone else who could account for Jason Baldwin’s whereabouts on May 5.

        Damien’s alibi: visit to the Sanders home

        On 9/10/93, Damien’s mother, father and sister all gave statements and told similar stories. Pam Hutchison stated that she, Damien’s father (Joe Hutchison) and sister (Michelle Echols) were all in the car when they picked up Damien and Domini at the laundromat at 3:45 PM. They dropped Domini at home, then went to the pharmacy to pick up Damien’s prescription at 4:30 PM. All four went to the Sanders home, arriving around 6:45 and staying 30 minutes, then returning home. Damien stayed home and talked on the phone all night after that. Michelle Echols told the same story.

        Joe Hutchison told the same story with the same times, except he couldn’t remember if Damien had accompanied them to the Sanders home. When asked “Who all went to the Sanders?”, Joe Hutchison hemmed and hawed: “It was me, Pam, Michelle and if I ain’t mistaken, I can’t be positive, because I’m trying to run this back in my mind. But Damion was with us. But, I cannot be positive. I can remember the three of us being there.”

        Two Sanders daughters gave statements supporting this alibi. On 9/2/93, Jennifer Sanders (age 11) told police that all four (Damien, Michelle, Pam, Joe) visited the Sanders home at 7:00 PM and stayed 20 or 30 minutes. She said she remembered the day because her boyfriend’s band concert was the following night. She testified for Echols’ defense at trial and told the same story. Prosecutors called the school band director as a rebuttal witness, who testified that the band concert had actually taken place on Monday, May 17, 1993.

        Also on 9/2/93, Stacy Sanders (age 18) told police that she had been across the street at her cousin’s house that evening. She looked out the window around 7:00 PM and saw Damien, Pam and Joe enter the Sanders home. Then a little later, she saw them leave. Stacy Sanders also had some confusion about the exact date of this visit. She remembered “it was the first Wednesday in May, because my parents went to Splash [Casino]“. But she also remembered it as two days before Damien was arrested; Damien was actually arrested 29 days after the murders.

        When he took the stand at his trial, Damien Echols agreed to the alibi his mother had arranged: Pam, Joe and Michelle picked up Damien and Domini around 4:00 PM; later Pam, Joe, Michelle and Damien visited the Sanders together; aside from that visit, Damien stayed home all evening. However, the alibi collapsed in this exchange between Echols and prosecutor Brent Davis during cross-examination.

        Q. Your mother testified that when you were down at the police station, one of the things she told you was, we’ve got some alibis, correct?

        A. Yes.

        Q. She’s testified that the same day the police talked to you, or maybe it was your sister, that that is when you first started discussing among the family about the details of those alibis, correct?

        A. Yes, sir.

        Q. When the police talk with you on the tenth, at that point in time you tell them from 3:00 to 5:00 is when you think you were at the Sanders’, is that right?

        A. I probably told him that then.

        Q. That was about five days after the boys had turned up missing that you told him it was around 3:00 to 5:00?

        A. I probably told him that if it’s in the report.

        Q. When your mom tells him something, it is about five to six or five to six-thirty, okay?

        A. (NODS HEAD)

        Q. As time moves on and the time period that is in question becomes later that evening, the visit to the Sanders’ becomes later that evening, correct?

        A. Yes, sir.

        Q. So the story kind of changes to fit the facts we need to cover, right?

        A. Yes, sir.

        The jury obviously didn’t believe the “visiting the Sanders” alibi.

        Damien’s alibi: phone calls with girls

        Another part of Damien’s alibi for 5/5/93 involved his phone calls with various girls. In his 5/10/93 interrogation, Damien said he talked to Holly George from roughly 5:30 to 11:00 PM. At trial, he testified that he talked to several girls on the phone that night.

        Q: OK. Once you went home [after visiting the Sanders house] do you recall what you did the rest of the night?

        A: Most of the night I was on the phone.

        Q: Do you recall who all you talked to that night?

        A: I think so.

        Q: Who was that?

        A: Holly George, Jennifer Bearden, um, Domini Teer, uh, Heather Cliett, I think that’s it.

        However, none of these four girls testified at trial. And in statements to police, none confirmed talking to Damien between 5:00 and 9:20 PM.

        Holly George (age 13) told police she talked to Damien and Jennifer on a three-way call around 3:30 for five minutes, then didn’t talk to Damien again that day.

        Jennifer Bearden (age 12 or 13) told police she talked to Damien and Holly on a three-way call around 3:30 for five minutes. Bearden also said she called Jason’s house that afternoon and spoke to both Damien and Jason. She estimated this second call as “somewhere in between 4:15 and 5, something like that 5, 5:30″. Later in the same statement, she estimated this second call as beginning between 4:15 and 4:30 PM and lasting 20 minutes.

        Bearden stated that she called Damien again at 8:00 PM, at which time his grandmother said Damien was not home. Bearden then stated, “I called back around 9:20, 9:30 and I talk to [Damien] for a little bit”.

        In 2004 Bearden reaffirmed her account of that evening. The Echols defense team included Bearden’s affidavit in a court filing to support Echols’ appeal. It’s not clear how Bearden’s account helps Echols. She doesn’t claim to have spoken to Damien between 5:00 and 9:20; her claim that Damien was at Jason’s home around 4:30 PM contradicts Damien’s trial testimony; and her claim that Damien wasn’t home at 8:00 PM contradicts his alibi.

        In her 9/10/93 statement to police, Domini Teer placed the laundromat pickup by by Joe, Pam and Michelle at “probably about 5 or 5:30″. She then said Damien called her on the phone “about 10″.

        On June 8, 1993, Heather Cliett (age 14) gave police a handwritten statement about 5/5/93. Cliett said that she tried calling Jason around 4:30 or 5:00 PM, then again at 6:15 PM, but could not reach him either time. Cliett then wrote, “Around 9:00 PM I was talking to [Holly George], we tried to get a hold of Michael Wayne “Damien” Echols from then until around 10:30 PM, when we finally got in touch w/him!” Cliett added, “The next day Hollie told me that ‘Damien’ said he had just been out walking around.”

        Jessie’s alibi

        After Jessie confessed on 6/3/93, his father and friends tried to build an alibi for him. This alibi had two prongs: that Jessie was in Highland trailer park around 6:30 PM on 5/5/93 when police responded to a disturbance, and that Jessie and friends drove to Dyess around 7:30 PM to go wrestling. Twelve people — Stephanie Dollar, Susie Brewer, Jennifer Roberts, Christy Jones Moss, Charles Ashley, Jessie Misskelley Sr., James McNease, Louis Hoggard, Dennis Carter, Fred Revelle, Roger Jones and Keith Johnson — testified for the defense as alibi witnesses at Misskelley’s trial.

        However, all three police officers who had responded to the disturbance call at Highland — James Dollahite, Joe McCafferty and Jason Oliver — testified that they did not recall seeing Jessie Misskelley Jr. there.

        Jessie Misskelley Sr. testified that his “DWI school” class got out at 7:00 PM on 5/5/93, at which point he drove home and spoke to Jessie Jr. around 7:15 PM before the latter left for Dyess. On cross-examination, Misskelley Sr. admitted that he told a TV interviewer after Jessie Jr.’s arrest, “he may have been there, I do not know … but if he was there he didn’t have anything to do with killing those boys.” The prosecution also called the alcohol safety class teacher as a rebuttal witness; she confirmed that Misskelley Sr. attended on 5/5/93, and she recalled that she did not dismiss class until “at least fifteen to eight” that night.

        The wrestling alibi also fell apart. Fred Revelle testified at trial that he specifically remembered that Jessie was with them that night.

        STIDHAM: How can you—tell the jury how you can remember that day as opposed to any other day.

        REVELLE: Because Kevin Johnson, one of the guys that went to wrestle with us, he was at a search and rescue meeting that night so he didn’t get to go wrestle with us and practice that night.

        STIDHAM: Is there anything else about May the fifth that makes it stand out in your mind in relation to any other event?

        REVELLE: Just that Keith Johnson, Kevin’s brother, that’s the only night that he went with us, that he ever went with us and wrestled there.

        * * *

        STIDHAM: Did anything happen to the defendant that helps you remember that night?

        REVELLE: Ah, Bill Cox, he went to go throw Jessie Misskelley into the ring and his head was bent too low and he hit the side of the ring, had a big knot on his head.

        On cross-examination, the prosecutor brought up a statement that Fred Revelle had given police on June 9, 1993, a few days after Misskelley’s arrest. Back then Revelle gave a different reason for remembering which day Misskelley went wrestling at Dyess.

        Ah, it was May 5th. The day of the murders, around 7 o’clock, 6:30, 7 o’clock, Bill Cox the guy I’m training to wrestle. He arrived at my residence with the money that we needed to go pay the Charles Stone in Dyess for the ring. I’m training him to be a pro wrestler, teaching him we left and picked up Jessie in Highland trailer park. And we were going to get high on the way up there. And ah we picked him up and ah I’d say it was around 7 o’clock I guess about the time we left to go up there. I don’t know exactly what time we got there but we got there and ah its about 35 miles, and we gave Charles Stone the money and he wrote us out a receipt and gave us the keys to the building so we could get in went back inside his house we opened up his building and went on in and we had to turn the lights on and we started practicing. We left and I believe we dropped little Jessie off about 11:00, 11:30.

        . . . Mr. Stone said he made a deposit in the bank the next day, and that day was may 6th, he made a deposit of $300.00 into his account.

        The prosecution produced the receipt for $300 with Fred Revelle’s and Charles Stone’s names. The receipt was actually dated April 27, eight days before the murders.

        Another alibi witness got tripped up by his prior statements to police. Dennis Carter testified at trial that he went to wrestling at Dyess on the night of May 5, 1993, with Jessie and others. However, Carter had been interviewed by WMPD officer Diane Hester on June 9 and again on June 22, and neither statement included any mention of going wrestling with Jessie on the evening of the murders. The June 22 statement, handwritten by Dennis Carter himself, states, “I went to Dice one or two time. But it was after the three little boys was murder. I have never went with Jessie to Dice. The time I went to Dice was with Kevin and Jhoney and Freddie and Bo and with Jhoney girlfriend. It was on a Friday night. But Jessie did not go with us.” The June 9 statement, handwritten by officer Hester and signed by Dennis Carter and his uncle Billy Carter, also read in part: “Dennis states that he was not really surprised when he heard that Jesse was arrested for the homicide. States that he was always nice to him but it didn’t really surprise him that he was involved.”

        Jessie Misskelley was convicted and sentenced on February 4, 1993. Over the next two weeks, he made three more detailed confessions, so apparently he did not put much stock in his own alibi witnesses.

        September 30, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • lawsquared

      Jason Baldwin Timeline
      3:40pm – Home from school

      Confirmed by Matt Baldwin

      Confirmed by Domini Teer

      Confirmed by Terry Grinnell

      4 – 4:30pm – left house to mow his great uncle's lawn. Was accompanied by Ken Watkins to the trailer. Also accompanied by Domini and Damien to his uncle's house.

      Confirmed by Matt Baldwin

      Confirmed by Ken Watkins

      Confirmed by Domini Teer

      Confirmed by Hubert Bartoush

      Confirmed by Terry and Gail Grinnell

      Confirmed by Dennis "Dirk" Dent

      4:30 – 6:30pm – Jason remained at his great uncle's house after mowing the lawn (Hubert does not remember anyone being with Jason, but he remembered Jason being there until 6:30pm and saying he was leaving to play video games at Wal-Mart. Ken may have gone home to babysit for approximately 45 minutes before Jason left his uncle's.

      Hubert's confirmation of visit

      Dennis Dent's confirmation Jason left to mow the law with Ken Watkins

      6:30-7pm – Went home (unknown if he stopped by Wal-Mart, but he only had a brief window to do it if he did). May have met Ken at Wal-Mart as suggested by Ken. Gail Grinnell says this in her June 4th, 1993 interview as well.

      7-7:30pm – Jason returned home, accompanied by Ken Watkins

      Confirmed by Matt Baldwin

      Confirmed by Ken Watkins who says he met Jason at his house to play super nintendo at 7pm

      Confirmed by Gail Grinnell who had spoken to Jason on the phone from her work

      Dennis Dent confirmed seeing Ken and Matt

      8pm – Went with Ken to Adam Phillips house to buy a tape. Showed Matt the tape when he got home. (If the WMPD ever questioned Adam Phillips there is no record of it).

      Confirmed by Dennis Dent (he said Jason came home and left to return the tape, returning at about 9-9:30)

      9pm through the rest of the night – Ken left and Jason remained home

      Confirmed by Matt Baldwin

      Ken confirmed he left between 9 and 10pm

      Confirmed by Dennis Dent who said Gail Grinnell called to check on the boys around 9:30pm

      September 30, 2011 at 11:46 am | Report abuse | Reply
  37. Rick

    One of your worst interviews. You asked all easy questions to these men. I don't know who killed the boys, and you started to ask them that, and then apparently you forgot! How can men who were imprisoned for 18 years not be angry, that's my question! An innocent person would be furious. Just because they can't PROVE they murdered the boys due to lack of evidence does NOT mean your interviewees did not kill them. Piers, you are normally hard hitting, but why didn't you ask them about their lives BEFORE the crimes, kiling animals, etc.... Very disappointed. So who DID kill these boys?

    September 30, 2011 at 10:47 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ted

      I think someone else has already said something to the same effect already. Morgan probably wasn't allowed to ask tough questions, must have been part of an agreement in order for them to appear on the show. Having them appear must make CNN a lot of money and–and the WM3 for that matter. He just didn't want to ask any hard-hitting questions for fear of them walking off the set and not being able to air the interview.

      September 30, 2011 at 10:59 am | Report abuse | Reply
  38. lawsquared

    There's a reason why websites call themselves TRUTH or HOAX. it's to present a pigeonholed facts be damned version of some event. WM3Truth and WM3Hoax takes the sub evidence... The evidence that no lawyer with common sense in 2011 would even attempt to use to make a case. Remember folks, you're talking about people who believe these three teenagers pulled of the first satanic murder on the face of the planet, and left behind absolutely no evidence. The key word there is Satan. I don't trust or believe anyone who thinks that Satan has anything to do with anything. Blaming things on the devil is a sign of mental weakness and a glorious ignorance to actual facts.

    September 30, 2011 at 11:08 am | Report abuse | Reply
  39. Michelle

    Why wouldn't he say thay? During that time everyone had something to say, remember Vicki Hutcheson? Remember the rumors about Damien having Christopher's testicles in a jar at his house? Everyone then had something to say then? Everything you keep bringing up has been discredited or debunked.

    September 30, 2011 at 11:27 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ted

      Unlike Hutcheson, Bartoush was Baldwin's cousin. If your cousin was suspected of a crime would you tell police your cousin hung out with a guy who liked to torture and kill animals?! And you're WRONG... it was never disproven that the dog killing had actually happened.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:34 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Michelle

        It hasn't been proven either.

        September 30, 2011 at 11:54 am | Report abuse |
      • lawsquared

        And it was never PROVEN to be a fact neither. Where was the distraught dog owner? I'm pretty sure someone wouldn't report a dog as expensive as great danes are that one was missing. At the point in time that that statement was given it was common knowledge that the police were gunning for Damien. He did not implicate Jason just Damien. This incident also allegedly happened the year BEFORE the murders.

        September 30, 2011 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Ted

      But you're still missing the point. Why would his own cousin say that? It would not look good for Baldwin... it wasn't just Echols and Misskelley who were suspected of the murders, but Baldwin as well.

      If he didn't want to implicate Jason then he wouldn't have said something that would cast doubt on his cousin's close friend... that would make him look like he was friends with a serial killer.

      Serial killers usually start by killing animals...

      September 30, 2011 at 12:43 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • lawsquared

        first you would have to prove that it actually happened in order to even extrapolate a meaning from said event. It has NOT been proven to have happened is the point you seem to be missing.

        September 30, 2011 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sandy

        And IF Jason's cousin(s) said anything about a dog, maybe they're the nutty ones? I have some freaking crazy cousins who have lied about me because I called them on their drug-addicted, poisoned ways of thinking and acting.
        You people really, really need to learn a little about how the world really works. And I hope to God you never, EVER get accused of doing something you didn't do.

        October 1, 2011 at 12:48 am | Report abuse |
      • James

        Why shouldn't I believe there was a dog, especially if family said there was?

        October 5, 2011 at 2:58 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Ted

    Yeah, maybe the people of WM believe it was a satanic ritual, but I don't think any of the comments by nons on this site suggest that. It was thrill-kill. And do you really think the sites put up by supporters are more truthful? and leave out so much information on the case and are deliberately deceiving in order to fit the narrative the WM3 were found guilty only because they wore funny clothes and liked heavy metal.

    September 30, 2011 at 11:28 am | Report abuse | Reply
  41. lawsquared

    If you believe Jessie Misskelley you believe that three drunk teenagers killed three little boys just for the fun of it and left no physical evidence. And then had the prescence of mind to clean up the crime scene and leave absolutely no evidence of being there and that the DNA profiles or 2 or 3 OTHER people were found there but not theirs. In crazy land that works. In reality land thats not plausible.

    September 30, 2011 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ted

      I dont' know why it's so hard to believe three teens could kill kids...

      And why it's so hard to believe there wasn't much physical evidence left...

      September 30, 2011 at 12:36 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • lawsquared

        The CSI effect is what people use when they want you to believe that three TEENAGERS committed a better crime than most criminals. If you are going to use the CSI effect you would have to first negate the presence of the the DNA profiles that were found at the scene. Their existence has not been discredited.
        You can believe whatever you want I'm only here for the people who come here and read the article to make sure they get a balanced rational opinion. NOT selective processing. In order to believe in these men's guilt you need to disregard a mega crap ton of evidence and then turn around and believe in evidence that was never even worthy of being brought to bear at trial.
        A good lawyer can impeach an alibi even if it's true. Damien and Jason and Jessie had public defenders some of whom actually admitted that they were unskilled and unqualified and out of their league in this case. Believe what you want. People interested in this case and read the information found here will make their own choices, but i refuse to allow you non supporters to have the loudest voice here. Once you strip away the lies, the obfuscation, the exaggerations and innuendo you guy's case is pretty much baseless. And that's a fact as demonstrated by the State of Arkansas releasing these men with no conditions.

        September 30, 2011 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ted

        @lawsquared Was Casey Anthony some sort of criminal master mind? Was Robert Blake some sort of devious genius? What about OJ Simpson? Was he too some sort of gifted and clever criminal that was able to fool all those jurors?

        September 30, 2011 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sandy

      lawsquared, you're forgetting the nons most recent theory. Domini went and cleaned up the woods for them. Yep, a pregnant teenager who wasn't even clever enough to stop from getting pregnant cleaned up the scene from an incredibly bloody, brutal murder.

      October 1, 2011 at 1:17 am | Report abuse | Reply
  42. No Dice

    Also don't forget about the suitcase with the photos of the three boys they say Damien was carrying around with the cocaine and the tiny gun. Cause that makes sense. Seriously people, choosing what to believe and not believe is not how a confession works. A confession is supposed to consist of the facts of what actually happened in a crime, It's not supposed to be selective.

    September 30, 2011 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  43. InTheKnow

    Mr. Moore, shame on you. You have been given the opportunity on numerous occasions to "tell your side" and you, and your ex wife have declined. You even declined to meet with several people in 2007, who wanted to show you new evidence. You chose NOT to tell your side of the story, but then you criticize when others opt to tell theirs ?

    If you'd take a step back, and look at the posts from your followers, you will see why NO ONE, not the media, not the attorneys, not the prosecution, NO ONE takes you seriously. If i remember correctly, Mr. Ellington even told you that you have "NO VETO POWER"...why ? Because of the vile you and yours spew. It's rather disgusting, and behavior unbecoming that of a victims father. Do you think Michael is proud of you for the way your behaving ? I doubt it, I'm sure his restless little soul just wants justice.

    As for Jessie not being interviewed...2 reasons. First, they wanted him to fly to New York, and because he's going to New York next week for the screening of PL3, he didn't want to go 2 weeks in a row. Second, his attorney could not be present, and he didn't want to go alone.

    As for Damiens 500...people, come on !! That was completely exaggerated by Damien at the prodding of his family, to assure him Social Security....and this was BEFORE the murders. So, why don't you all dig a bit deeper and find something else to use as "evidence"....The great dane, again, BEFORE the murders...nice !

    Jessies confessions...debunked....Next !

    Do you honestly think, that the AG's office in Arkansas, would have agreed, to let 3 child murderers free, if they honestly thought they were guilty ??....Each and every one of you need to take a good hard look and face reality....

    The scary thing is, You call Damien the Psychopath...

    September 30, 2011 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ted

      @InTheKnow There's no proof that's actually Todd Moore leaving comments, seeing how you can put any name you want in the 'name' field. Is that your real name... InTheKnow?

      September 30, 2011 at 1:27 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  44. Storm!/wm3org/statuses/104416925572005888

    The comment of us saying that David is part of the prosecution is bull... you will see there that someone from did say that David was from the prosecution.

    He is not.

    Sorry wasnt us that started that rumor.

    I would like to know how the hell Jessie's mental retardation was first the mind of a 12 year old, and now its 4 or 5? And if you look at his tests, his first one he scored a 72. 70 is considered mentally slow. Jessie was not mentally retarded. He was street smart..may not school smart. And why wasnt he on to dispute this. I would think it would bother him some knowing people are saying he is so retarded he doesnt know what he is doing. He is living his life with his girlfriend, and her kids now. He is starting to get into UFC stuff. How does a retarded man with the mind of a 4 or 5 year old do all this? Its just more exaggerations. Damien never went out of his cell, and stayed there unless his lori came to visit him. So how is it that when he was at a theater that he didnt have to worry about other inmates stabbing him in the back? If was in his cell the whole time, why would he fear that. Just doesnt make sense.

    September 30, 2011 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Wendy

      LOL, "Storm"... you're so stupid. That tweet from isn't a compliment to David and his little website. It's pointing out that the State of Arkansas's case against the WM3 and David's website are similar in that they are factually inaccurate and biased, to say the least.

      Thanks for the laugh... I needed it. 😉

      October 1, 2011 at 2:29 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Storm

        LOL I wasnt saying it was a compliment. You really need to understand what your reading Wendy. I was pointing out that we were not the one who said David was part of the prosecution. Someone here said it was us "nons" that said the was saying david was part of the prosecution. We did not. That is what that link was proving. It was who said David was part of the prosecution and that is how the rumor was started. But really, Thank you for the laugh.

        October 1, 2011 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Wendy

      "Storm", you still don't get it. DID NOT SAY they think David is from the prosecution. They think his site is a pack of lies, just like they think the prosecution's case is a pack of lies.

      Keep proving my point about reading comprehension, though, you poor thing.

      October 1, 2011 at 11:25 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  45. Sara

    I don't usually comment on these posts because everything has been said over and over, but.....i find it hard to believe that three BOYS could commit a murder like this and leave NO BLOOD, on themselves or at the scene. This doesn't seem to have been pre-planned so that they had everything wrapped in plastic, etc. Usually more evidence is found, not less. I have followed this for at least 15 years, I read, I examine, and I am very open minded. It took me at least 10 years of following this to come to the conclusion that in MY OPINION, they are all innocent, and the real killer is still out there. For those who say that it is funny that no other murders happened after they went to prison, how do you know? There have been a lot of children murdered since 1993. Could it be that the real killer moved somewhere else, and just as he wasn't caught for this one, hasn't been caught for the others? Just asking.....

    September 30, 2011 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ted

      Well, I don't believe that you've read all the evidence. If you had, you would have known about the Luminol test that showed there was blood at the crime scene. And why must three teens be criminal master minds to leave little physical evidence? Most of the evidence was destroyed because it was underwater. They were just lucky.

      September 30, 2011 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  46. storm

    I cannot believe you would bring up Todd and his child. Saying his child is not proud of him..where the hell do you get off saying that. His child is extremely proud of him. You have no idea how he feels. Shame on you for even saying that.

    September 30, 2011 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  47. InTheKnow

    It obviously is Todd Moore doing the posting. He's calling people stupid, and putting them down, just like he does on the hoax board. I was waiting for him to call someone a cu*t or a tw*t.....but I see he was able to restrain himself.

    And Ted, with the question you asked me, you proved my previous post to be accurate, when it comes to the nons....

    September 30, 2011 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ted

      @InTheKnow Err... wow! How does that prove it's actually him? Even if it were him, I think he gets the green light to say whatever he wants. It's his kid that was murdered. And which previous post are you talking about?

      September 30, 2011 at 3:53 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Pixie

        murdered son or no murdered son, that doesn't give him a pass on lying and treating others with such blatant disrespect.

        October 1, 2011 at 1:23 am | Report abuse |
  48. InTheKnow

    @Storm....all I'm saying, is what MANY have been dying to say for a WHILE now. No one can quite understand how the father of a slaughtered child can be so callous and so harsh to people, but yet, he refuses to do public appearances and interviews ? Then, he turns around and gets angry when others choose to share their sides of the story...He's had his chances, he blew it. Instead, he chooses to hide behind his keyboard and make malicious, viscious comments to people who's opinions are different than his.....I'm pretty sure Michael would be wanting him, out and about...looking for answers, instead of acting the way he is. All of the other parents, when called for a meeting, has appeared, heard what they needed to, and went about their business...not Todd....he has slammed the door in so many's faces, no one takes him seriously anymore....Sad to say, but true. And I'm not afraid to speak my mind and tell it like it is. He's been treated with Kit Gloves for too long now....yet, he shows no respect to no one.....

    September 30, 2011 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Toomas

      You are making the sadistic killers of his child heroes. Should he love you for that?

      September 30, 2011 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Pixie

      THANK YOU. You are right, many people have been wanting to say exactly this. How sad that the only people who seem at all interested in finding the real killers are us supporters, and Damien, Jason, and Jessie.

      October 1, 2011 at 1:27 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Toomas

        Damien, Jason and Jessie want to find the "real" killers. HAAAAAHAAAHAHAAA!
        Sure, buy them mirrors

        October 1, 2011 at 8:16 am | Report abuse |
  49. mommamoon

    This happened when we were all the same age, these boys lives have been destroyed because of the system..I will stand behind them they are innocent and they deserve to be able to live a normal life now...I deffentally feel for the 3 8 yr old boys and there parents, im a mother myself, but things should have been looked at differently..The real killer is still out there and they still want to accuse these guys, i would do everything to have it reopened if i were the familys, what bout the back guy covered in mud and blood, and the hair at the scene which was a black mans hair or the family member that was molesting one of the little boys to begin with...Damien, jason and jessee hang in there you have support here in tenn...Were here and standing behind you a hundred percent...We will be in touch i promise..Enjoy those sunsets were praying for ya.....

    September 30, 2011 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  50. myths about Jessie Miskelley

    from wm3 truth

    Supporters have spread many myths about Jessie Miskelley’s 6/3/93 interrogation: the police bullied a mentally retarded teenager into making a false confession in a brutal 12-hour interrogation; his family didn’t know where he was; he was denied access to a lawyer, never informed of his Miranda rights, pressured to sign a rights waiver which he couldn’t read or understand; Misskelley’s story didn’t match the facts of the crime, except for a few details which the cops fed him and had him repeat back.

    None of that is true. Here are the facts.

    There was no 12-hour interrogation. Misskelley first confessed at 2:20 pm, roughly 4½ hours after Sgt. Allen picked him up at his father’s workplace. That 4½ hour period included maybe 3 hours of actual interrogation.

    Misskelley’s father knew he was at the police station. Jessie Sr. talked to Sgt. Mike Allen at 9:45 am and again at 11:15 am about the interview. Allen actually talked to Jessie Sr. first in the morning; Jessie Sr. then drove off and retrieved Jessie Jr.; then Allen and Jessie Jr. drove to the police station. At the 11:15 am meeting, Jessie Sr. signed a waiver allowing police to give Jessie Jr. a polygraph exam.

    Police informed Misskelley of his legal rights on several occasions. Sgt. Allen read Misskelley his legal rights around 11 am, and Misskelley initialed and signed a rights form. Detective Durham advised Miskelley of his rights again at around 11:30 am before conducting the polygraph exam, and Misskelley again initialed and signed a rights form. (This second form is not available online, but it was discussed and entered into evidence as “States Exhibit Eleven” during a court hearing on 1/13/94.) At the beginning of the first tape-recorded confession, police again reminded Misskelley of his legal rights and reviewed the signed rights form with him.

    That hasn’t stopped WM3 supporters from making bogus claims. For example, Henry Rollins told a radio interviewer in 2003, “what was really interesting to me was the lack of due process that the three boys incarcerated did not enjoy and the lack of Miranda rights read to Jessie Misskelley and I went ‘wow, that’s not the way Americans should be treated’”.

    Misskelley was capable of understanding his legal rights. His lawyers tried claiming that Misskelley was incapable of reading or understanding his legal rights, and thus that his 6/3/93 confession should be thrown out. Prosecutors countered that Misskelley had extensive experience dealing with law enforcement officials before June 1993, and that Misskelley had been Mirandized and signed legal rights waivers on four previous occasions.

    There’s no evidence that Misskelley was threatened or harmed during his interrogation. Jessie Sr. later told reporters that cops “cussed him, spit in his face, stepped on his hands.” It’s possible officers used swear words around Jessie, but there’s no evidence of any physical intimidation.

    Jessie Misskelley is not mentally retarded. Not by any accepted legal or medical definition, at least. No one disputes that he has a low IQ, but that is not synonymous with “mentally retarded”.

    The bogus “mentally retarded” claim serves two purposes for WM3 supporters: creating sympathy (“look at how the mean cops treated poor retarded Jessie”) and sowing doubt about Jessie’s many confessions (“you can’t believe anything Jessie says, he’s retarded”).

    Misskelley’s lawyers tried to depict him as “mentally retarded” during trial. Supporters continue to call him “mentally retarded”, or “mildly retarded” or “borderline retarded” or “mentally handicapped”. Not true. Misskelley’s lawyer and WM3 defenders often make the similar claim that Misskelley functions at a five-year-old level. Again, there’s no evidence for this claim. He was 17 at the time of the crime and confession, and he functioned at the level of a street-smart but low-IQ 17-year-old.

    In fall 1993, when Misskelley was awaiting trial, a psychologist hired by Misskelley’s defense lawyers gave him an IQ test (specifically, the WAIS-R). Dr. William Wilkins declared Misskelley’s IQ to be 72. Before the murders, Misskelley had taken two other IQ tests and scored 74 and 73.

    The jailhouse IQ test should be taken with a grain of salt. First, Misskelley’s lawyer told him upfront that a lower test score would make the death penalty less likely. Paradise Lost actually shows this conversation (around the 13:00 mark). That’s a pretty strong incentive to get a few questions wrong.

    Second, cross-examination of Dr. Wilkins brought out some discrepancies. In Misskelley’s two earlier IQ tests, his performance score (a subscore covering five of the eleven subtests in the WAIS-R) had been 84 and 88; this time around his performance score was 75. The prosecutor also grilled Wilkins about the MMPI-2 test (a personality test, not an IQ test) given to Misskelley, which showed a very high level of “malingering” or “faking bad” or, in Wilkins’ own words, “trying to present yourself as being ill when you’re not for some particular gain”. Wilkins falsely reported a “mild elevation” on the malingering scale in his report; under cross-examination he admitted, “That may have been a mistake then. I may well have mispronounced what it was supposed to be.” All very technical, but the upshot is: Misskelley may have intentionally tried to score badly on his psychological tests, and Dr. Wilkins may have been complicit in this attempt.

    That IQ score of 72 should not be taken as hard fact. Consider it the low end of a range. And even 72 does not mean someone is mentally retarded.

    The Wikipedia page on mental retardation lists this rough breakdown:

    Profound mental retardation: Below 20
    Severe mental retardation: 20–34
    Moderate mental retardation: 35–49
    Mild mental retardation: 50–69

    (Yes, I know Wikipedia is not always a reliable source. The Wikipedia page on the West Memphis Three is a complete joke. I’m assuming that the mental retardation page is a reliable summary of mainstream thinking, but I’m not an expert.)

    Mental retardation is not simply a matter of IQ; the “diagnosis is not based only on IQ scores, but must also take into consideration a person’s adaptive functioning”. Adaptive functioning covers things like: “Daily living skills, such as getting dressed, using the bathroom, and feeding oneself; Communication skills, such as understanding what is said and being able to answer; Social skills with peers, family members, spouses, adults, and others.”

    Misskelley definitely falls on the non-retarded side of the scale on all these “adaptive functioning” criteria. He lived very independently, going to jobs and hanging with friends with little adult oversight. He juggled multiple relationships with women. Watch Jessie interact with his family in Paradise Lost — he holds up his end of the conversation, uses humor, responds quickly to things other people say.

    There’s a broad range between “average intelligence” and “mentally retarded”. Jessie Misskelly’s cognitive level falls somewhere in the middle of that broad range.

    September 30, 2011 at 9:53 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  51. Misskelley's THIRD voluntary confession - in front of his own lawyer

    excerpts from callahan 8K

    "STIDHAM: You still want to give a statement despite my advise and counsel?
    MISSKELLEY: Yes, cause I want something done about it."

    ....DAVIS: Ok. And when they came over what happened?
    MISSKELLEY: And then Ja, Damien jumped on'm. And them other two (2) started beating on Damien and me and Jason jumped on'm.

    ...DAVIS: Ok. Now when you grabbed one and Jason grabbed one what happened next?
    MISSKELLEY: We started hitting'm.
    DAVIS: With what ?
    MISSKELLEY: Fist at first.
    DAVIS: Ok. Where describe to me what Ja, what you saw Jason do?
    MISSKELLEY: He first he cut one of'm on a face on his left side just a little bit like a scratch. Then ..ah.. he went to the other one and got on top of him, started hitting him and then pull one of'm pants down and get on top of'm and cut'm.

    ....DAVIS: What, what was Damien doing during this time?
    MISSKELLEY: Well the one that got cut on his face, he stuck his finger on his cheek and slicked the blood off of it.
    DAVIS: That's what, saw Damien do. What else was he doing?
    MISSKELLEY: He grabbed one of'm by the ear, I don't know which one, he grabbed on of'm by the ear trying to pull his ear off or something. He grabbed'm pretty tight. It turned kind of red.
    DAVIS: Did the, were the kids, the threee (3) little boys were they saying anything, doing anything during this ?
    MISSKELLEY: They were saying Stop, Stop.
    DAVIS: Ok. And what about the boy that you were hitting, was he saying that?
    MISSKELLEY: Yea, he was telling me stop and then I stopped and Damien told me, no, no don't stop. And I got on'm again.

    ....DAVIS: Ok. And did Jason have anything in his hands at that point.
    MISSKELLEY: He had a knife.
    DAVIS: Ok. Where was, was he actually hitting'm with the knife or with his fist ?
    MISSKELLEY: blade was open.
    DAVIS: Ok. Could you see where he, was he cutting the boy?
    MISSKELLEY: No, he was like this swinging the knife at his legs.
    DAVIS: Ok. Could you see, did you ever see one of the boys get cut with the knife?
    MISSKELLEY: After he cut through with'm then I noticed what'd he done.
    DAVIS: What did you see?
    MISSKELLEY: I saw that boy you know missing
    DAVIS: If you worried when you saw that, describe to me what you saw Jason do and what you saw happened?
    MISSKELLEY: Well when he was doing that I seen blood fly.
    DAVIS: Ok. Well did he, where'd the blood go?
    MISSKELLEY: Grass, I mean not grass but weeds, like sling around.
    DAVIS: What'd the boy do when that happened?
    MISSKELLEY: He started hollering. And Jason put his shirt over his mouth.

    ....DAVIS: Ok, Jessie tole me that Jason came over to you and then went back to the boy that had been castrated and start hitting him in the face. What was Damien doing at this point?
    MISSKELLEY: He was still holding that, still messing with them boys, that boys p_nis.
    DAVIS: Ok. And you said that you had, that your b, the boy that you had was unconscious and then what happened next, what you remember happening next?
    MISSKELLEY: I, I let him go, after that I let him go and Damien come and got him. So I kept on hanging on to'm and start hitting him some more.
    DAVIS: The, were the other two (2) boys still conscious. You said the one you had was unconscious, were the other two (2) boys still conscious at that point?
    MISSKELLEY: Well the one who got castrated he wasn't moving that much no more. I figured you know he might be dead or whatever. I really didn't know.
    DAVIS: What happens next you said you, Damien's still got the other one, Jason's got one and you got one. What happens next?
    MISSKELLEY: Damien was messing the one little boy's p_nis.

    ....MISSKELLEY: We tied'm up.
    DAVIS: Ok. Now you said before when the police asked you in their statement and asked you what they were tied up with. And you said they were tied up with rope. Ah..
    MISSKELLEY: I made that up.
    DAVIS: Why?
    MISSKELLEY: Tied to get off, you know get'm off track.
    DAVIS: Who tied'm up?
    MISSKELLEY: Damien and Jason.

    September 30, 2011 at 9:59 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • FunnyFaceKing

      I saw three leading questions, and the last bit about the rope made no sense at all. First he made up the rope, then they're tying him up again.

      Where did you get this? There is no link? How can anyone verify it's authenticity if there is no link or other identifying marks attached to it?

      October 1, 2011 at 8:37 am | Report abuse | Reply
  52. Statement from Diana Moore, mother of murder victim Michael Moore

    West Memphis 3 Follow-Up
    Statement from Diana Moore, mother of murder victim Michael Moore:

    In 1993, all I wanted was justice for Michael, Christopher, and Stevie, and closure for myself, and my family. 17 years later, still no justice, or closure.

    Since the convictions, the media has made it a point to make this case all about the convicted. I would like to take this opportunity to remind people that three innocent 8 year old children were brutally murdered, and these three men were convicted on the evidence presented to 24 , (in total), juror members that voted unanimously to convict.

    Not one of the celebrities interviewed in this program has ever bothered to personally read the case file at West Memphis PD, or speak to anyone involved in prosecuting this case.

    My little boy died that day. I'm his mother, and wish to say that the public remains ignorant about what happened in court primarily as a result of the Paradise Lost films, and the writing of Mara Leveritt. My voice is small compared to theirs, but I believe more relevant. They weren't there during the trials, and they didn't lose anybody. I lost almost everything, and not a day goes by that I don't mourn for Michael. The public should think about that before casting their lot in with Eddie Vedder and Natalie Maines.

    September 30, 2011 at 10:27 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • lawsquared

      Ms. Moore,
      I would say every single WM3 Supporter thinks about your son everyday. I think many of us hope and pray everyday that the actual perpetrator of this crime is caught. Every single piece of evidence in this case can be found online and on various websites. I would venture to say that just from reading this thread no one can say all supporters are ignorant.
      We have read, we have watched, not just movies, but depositions, heard audio. Read some more. We want Justice for your son, for Stevie Branch and for Chris Byers. I hope one day you open your heart and realize that those three boys didn't kill your son. I hope that some day you will come to see that we in fact do not seek to hurt you. We want closure for you as much as you seek it. But you will never find it in those three men. The new evidence point in another direction. I hope one day you will sit down and meet with the defense attorneys as the other parents have and hear the new evidence. I wish you peace. I hope that one day you will not feel the need to hold these men as monsters in your mind. I hope one day we get to celebrate the actual murderer being found, for in my mind the greatest injustice is the ability for that person or persons to still walk freely these last 18 years while ALL of you sufffered. THAT is the travesty.

      September 30, 2011 at 10:56 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Sandy

      Every single supporter, every single dollar that does into the investigation is there for the purpose of honoring your son and finding his real killer(s).
      And most of us were supporters long before Eddie Vedder and Natalie Maines spoke out. I prefer to think that they hitched onto OUR wagons.

      October 1, 2011 at 1:35 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • The real killers were found

      Ms. Moore was there. Not the supporters. She knows what really happened. She saw the threats made toward those testifying for the defense or those that were scared off by those working with the defendants. She saw Echols behavior, including blowing kisses to her and the other parents. She knows Echols was a very sick person. She knows who the real killers are. The ones found guilty the first time that then plead guilty again to get out of jail. She isn't fooled by one side movies or books. She saw what really happened in court. She saw the real evidence, not that made up by those paid by the defense later.

      October 1, 2011 at 2:33 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • lawsquared

        Nice try. There were no witnesses scared off by the defense. The prosecution did stash some witnesses so they couldn't be subpoenad to testify. Why did the Moores not go see the New Evidence? Why wouldn't they want ALL of the information. Pam Hobbs and John Mark Byers and their families do not think these three did it and they have seen ALL the evidence.

        October 1, 2011 at 7:35 am | Report abuse |
      • guilty

        Several people were afraid to testify because of fearing the cult there. see wm3 truth Accounts of people at the trial stated that people were afraid of the cult and their pressure. The "new" evidence is from the defense. The real evidence, repeated confessions, testimony and accounts from the three themselves show evidence of their guilt.

        October 1, 2011 at 10:30 pm | Report abuse |
  53. Michelle

    ....DAVIS: Ok, Jessie tole me that Jason came over to you and then went back to the boy that had been castrated and start hitting him in the face. What was Damien doing at this point?
    MISSKELLEY: He was still holding that, still messing with them boys, that boys p_nis.
    DAVIS: Ok. And you said that you had, that your b, the boy that you had was unconscious and then what happened next, what you remember happening next?
    MISSKELLEY: I, I let him go, after that I let him go and Damien come and got him. So I kept on hanging on to'm and start hitting him some more.
    DAVIS: The, were the other two (2) boys still conscious. You said the one you had was unconscious, were the other two (2) boys still conscious at that point?
    MISSKELLEY: Well the one who got castrated he wasn't moving that much no more. I figured you know he might be dead or whatever. I really didn't know.
    DAVIS: What happens next you said you, Damien's still got the other one, Jason's got one and you got one. What happens next?
    MISSKELLEY: Damien was messing the one little boy's p_nis

    bogus confession..... Yes Damien had the turtles, trying to get them to do this to Christopher.... Oh my in the dark too, oh and they were drunk.... Sounds logical to me..... All fine and dandy, except Christohper wasn't castrated.

    September 30, 2011 at 10:55 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  54. lawsquared

    What you guys lost on facebook so we come back here? I've got news for you... this is CNN if it's not the top newstory it ain't getting read. 😛 So you're basically talking to yourself now.

    September 30, 2011 at 10:59 pm | Report abuse | Reply

      So, square, this is about a social media contest to you? I see that you are determined to monopolize the conversation and interject your ridiculous ideas at every turn. That smells like desperation to me. You're a fool. Get another life outside this forum – go back to wm3 and rant.

      October 1, 2011 at 6:49 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • lawsquared

        It's squared. Not square. No it's not a social media contest. but i see its just the handful of you in both places. I don't think these men deserve this treatment. I also think that harboring such deep and unyeilding hatred is healthy. Any one of you would strike down these men if you caught them in public and thought you could get away with it. You are a scary rapid bunch of people with absolutely no ability to see the forest thru the trees.
        It's over for you guys. In a few more years no one will be talking about these men and being guilty. And it makes you sad because you spent 18 years spewing your hate on them where ever you could. You guys don't get it. From your hate filled forums, to your twitter and facebook harrassment campaigns, you're never going to ever get your point across, because there is absolutely nothing to back it up anymore. Rational people realize that a st

        October 1, 2011 at 7:00 am | Report abuse |
      • lawsquared

        It's squared. Not square. No it's not a social media contest. but i see its just the handful of you in both places. I don't think these men deserve this treatment. I also think that harboring such deep and unyeilding hatred is healthy. Any one of you would strike down these men if you caught them in public and thought you could get away with it. You are a scary rapid bunch of people with absolutely no ability to see the forest thru the trees.
        It's over for you guys. In a few more years no one will be talking about these men and being guilty. And it makes you sad because you spent 18 years spewing your hate on them where ever you could. You guys don't get it. From your hate filled forums, to your twitter and facebook harrassment campaigns, you're never going to ever get your point across, because there is absolutely nothing to back it up anymore. Rational people realize that a state will not let a death row inmate and two lifers out of jail without just cause. It just doesn't happen like that. Posting with glee all over the internet about how you just can't WAIT for them to reoffend, like you are counting on it. These are the reasons why people think you are irrational. These are the reasons why people do not throw their lot in with the likes of you. It's incoherent. Believing these men's guilt means DISBELIEVING all things rational. The justice system is not infallible. 24 jurors and non supporters can be very very wrong. I implore all interested in this case start with the movies but do not end there, there are books, there are websites, there are supporters in this case who spend at least an hour a day thinking, pondering, going over court records, transcripts and testimony. We are not ignorant to this case. The reason why so many people have followed and will continue to follow this case is because we believe that 6 people had their lives stolen May 5 1993. Thru incompetent police work, inefficient representation, prejudice, and ignorance. 3 of them were able to get their lives back. For the other three, we will NEVER stop fighting for justice for Stevie, Michael and Christopher.
        So you guys keep hanging around whereever and posting nonsense wherever you can. It doesn't matter what you think one way or the other. The men are out. Soon they will be cleared. Hopefully the real perpetrator of this crime will be found and locked up. That is Justice. Slinging insults and ignoring factual evidence of innocence is not helping your cause. Everytime i get into a discussion with a non supporter it comes down to the same 3 base issues. You guys know the Mr. Misskelley had a low IQ he has a history going all the way back to elementary school of being tested and getting special services for being a slower kid. Coerced confessions do happen its a fact. You guys can gripe about the time all you want, It can take as little as an hour to get someone to parrot what you want to hear, depending on many factors including fear. And as for the Bible Confession this is all you need to know...
        As soon as Jessie was convicted the Prosecution, or someone acting on their behalf was putting MONDO pressure on Jessie and violating his rights in the process.

        Rumors aren't evidence. Any time you bring a rumor up it discredits everything you say. If it is not backed up by more than just words on a paper from a teenager its crap. Straight up crap. The fact of the matter is it's no longer 1993. Religion, satinism, small mindedness, and small town justice don't exist anymore. These convictions would not happen today. That's a fact. If those murders happened today, there is no way those men would have ever even been considered as suspects. Too many people have recanted in this case. Too many people have been proven to be of questionable intelligence, let alone integrity. Many teens stated being encouraged by law enforcement to make statements. Using your badge to instill fear in children is pretty heinous. And they did it OVER and OVER and OVER again.
        Those who see thru your crap go searching for an alternative. So i welcome how crazy you are. You must realize though that most people do find the rapid, violent rejection of facts and the desire to make these men suffer, makes you seem incredibly small minded with a narrow world view. These are not the killers you are looking for. When you look at them you don't see murderers, you see three men who had their lives stolen by people like you.

        So keep on doing what you're doing. While you do that we'll be over here talking about this case and pressuring the government to reopen the case, and pursuing any and all avenues to get Justice for all involved. Hate doesn't get you anywhere.

        October 1, 2011 at 7:24 am | Report abuse |
    • James

      That's exactly how I read your comment too, nice emoticon to reinforce it. And I also think you've forgotten the victims.

      October 5, 2011 at 2:43 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  55. Misskelley told the truth

    Turtles didn't do anything to the victims. Did they find the turtles that did this? No. Did anyone see turtles do this? No.
    In other words, this is pure conjecture with no evidence.

    This is another story made up by those paid for by the defense. One can believe the evidence presented in court and examined by both sides of the case, or that for experts paid for by the defense later. The reality is that the testimony backs the story of castration, this was consistent in the confessions. It fits the cult motive of the crimes, since Echols and his teenage satanic cult had a history in that area. He chose the boys and planned to get them that night on a full moon. And it appears he did.

    October 1, 2011 at 2:43 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Misskelley was Coerced

      Yes because this was a Satanist murder. They also carried around the photos in a black briefcase filled with cocaine and a gun right? And the panel of animal predation experts that didn't mean anything either right? As soon as you post full moon your credibility goes out

      October 1, 2011 at 8:00 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Michelle

      Really? It was snapping turtles, and other animals, no knife. The whole orange and knife thing doesn't play with me. WMPD didn't state anything of turtles but then again they left out so much. There's plenty of footage showing turtles as well, it's up to you to find it. His confessions have been debunked over and over and over again. There wasn't a satanic cult, really? There wasn't any history of it there, whitnesses recanted after the arrest....

      October 1, 2011 at 8:04 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • James

        Don't buy the turtles theory either.

        October 5, 2011 at 3:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sandy

      Well, then, MisskelleyToldTheTruth, using your own logic and reasoning: Damien, Jason, and Jessie didn't do anything to the victims. Did anyone see Damien, Jason, and Jessie do this? No. In other words, this is pure conjecture with no evidence. You can't have it both ways. Sorry, but you can't.

      October 2, 2011 at 11:50 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • James

        But Jessie said they did, he was the one that saw it. So I guess it's not conjecture.

        October 7, 2011 at 8:02 am | Report abuse |
  56. Evidence of guilt and cult involvement

    - We can believe the legal evidence showing their guilt, confirmed by the vote of a unanimous jury to convict, with all of the evidence examined by both sides and debated

    or we can believe in a few one sided supporters websites, movies and books, that leave out large amounts of evidence and misrepresent the case. The fact that the crime happened on a full moon only increase the strength of the motive of the killings being cult killings. If no one saw "snapping turtles" castrate one of the victims, then the evidence this is true is weak at best. We have several confessions and people hearing the three brag and talk about the murders and the castration. How many recanted due to threats and fear?

    MISSKELLEY, Jr. v. STATE of Arkansas CR 94-848
    A witness testified that she had attended a satanic cult meeting with Echols and the appellant.
    The appellant was asked about his involvement in a cult. He said he had been involved for about three months. The participants would typically meet in the woods. They engaged in org_es and, as an initiation rite, killing and eating dogs. He noted that at one cult meeting, he saw a picture that Echols had taken of the three boys. He stated that Echols had been watching the boys.

    Damien Wayne ECHOLS and Charles Jason Baldwin v. STATE of Arkansas CR 94-928 S.W.2d Supreme Court of Arkansas Opinion delivered December 23, 1996

    Echols admitted on cross-examination that he had delved deeply into the occult and was familiar with its practices and where various items that had been found in his room supported the State's theory of motive that the killings were done in a satanic ritual; where an expert in occult killings testified that there was significant evidence of satanic ritual killings; where a detective testified that Echols had made a statement regarding the mutilation of one of the victims that the jury could have reasonably concluded he would not have known about unless he had been involved in some manner; and where Echols's testimony contained additional evidence of guilt....

    Echols admitted on cross-examination in the penalty phase of the trial that he had an altercation with his father in which a knife was involved and the police were called; where he admitted that he was hospitalized that same day and that when his father came to the hospital, "I told him I would eat him alive"; where he admitted that he tried "to claw the eyes out" of a student; and where a psychologist who testified for Echols admitted that Echols had "an all-powerful God-like image of himself," that his parents were concerned with his satanism or devil worship, and that Echols's medical records included notations of statements by Echols pertaining, among other things, to his rage and the drinking of the blood of others....

    Where one witness testified that appellant Baldwin had told him that he had dismembered one of the boys, sucked the blood from his p_nis and scrotum, and put the testicles in his mouth, and where an expert on ritual killings stated that one of the facts that led him to believe that the killings were cult-related was that one of the victims had been castr_ted and had had the blood sucked from his penis, there was sufficient evidence of appellant Baldwin's participation in occult activities, and the trial court correctly allowed the evidence....

    October 1, 2011 at 3:00 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • lawsquared

      Which of these websites is sane:

      October 2, 2011 at 11:15 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  57. NOT Guilty

    I'm involved in the occult, Meaning I practice paganism and wicca. Does not a murderer make. You are taking testimony that has absolutely nothing to do with the crime and trying to draw a straight line. The FBI has stated that there has never been a satanic murder in this country. Are you smarter than the FBI? Yea i thought not.

    Aren't ya'lls websites dying. I stop by doesn't seem like they get updated much. Where as supporter websites are still thriving. hmmm.

    October 1, 2011 at 4:06 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  58. evidence of guilt

    It is more than the fact that they were involved in the occult that adds up to their guilt. The physical evidence, the repeated confessions and bragging and their violent nature add up to their guilt. It is a myth that the FBI stated there were no satanic murders in this country. And this is totally untrue anyway. One FBI member who had never talked to any victims of satanic crimes claimed that none of these crimes happened. He has been refuted.

    The websites are actually growing. Even if they weren't, this doesn't matter, as the reality is that there is plenty of evidence that they were guilty. There are two sides to this story. They were found guilty the first time and plead guilty the second time.

    October 1, 2011 at 10:25 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Michelle

      And what evidence would that be? Other than Jessie's debunked confessions or Damien's mental records.... what evidence proves that they are guilty, I'm interested in hearing. I have asked several times and I see all these responses but not one person has said listed anything. This was not a satanic murder, what about these murders states that this was a satanic murder? Since your the expert I would love to hear....

      October 2, 2011 at 10:16 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • foothilla

        It's sad how most of you people desperately NEED to be right. In regards to this case, most people are either completely convinced of the WM3's guilt, or completely convinced of their innocence. There is no logical middle ground with the average moronic American. The reality is, we'll never be sure of who committed these murders. There simply wasn't enough evidence to build a solid case against anyone, except for Misskelley. While I think that Echols and Baldwin were probably guilty, there isn't enough evidence to fairly convict them. Misskelley, on the other hand, confessed repeatedly. The last confession being to his own attorney, after his conviction, without coercion, with nothing to gain from falsely admitting his involvement. Even someone of dull intelligence realizes that REPEATEDLY confessing to being an accomplice to murder will result in conviction.

        All of you that have yourselves 100% convinced of guilt or innocence are blind fools with a sociopathic need to be "right". There is no way that any sane, fair minded individual could draw a positive conclusion, one way or the other.

        December 30, 2016 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse |
  59. innocent people do NOT confess

    My heart goes out to the family of the victims

    October 2, 2011 at 8:10 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  60. lawsquared

    I think ALL of our hearts go out to the FAMILIES of the victims, the victims themselves. The three men whose lives were stolen, and their families who also suffered. There are no winners in this case an there never will be until the real perpetrators are found.

    October 2, 2011 at 10:30 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  61. lawsquared

    Here is the thing the "They're Guilty" crowd doesn't tell you or want to let you know. They can't prove that these men are guilty. Their "Guilty" is based on a feeling. It is not based in fact.
    They will cite One thing to prove guilt or will speak on a host of UNPROVEN, UNSUBSTANTIATED claims that happened months or years before. What are is their critical evidence?
    The Jessie Confessions. Which were recanted. Which were never brought to bear in the Echols/Baldwin Trial. Which would unequivocally be annihilated be torn apart by the new defense team. The problem with confessions is they have to be honest to be effective evidence. Since these were not effective confessions any defense attorney worth his salt could very easily shred such confessions into finely shredded strips of paper. That's even if they would even be used in trial. The new judge seemed a LOT more accomodating and actually interprets the law in a more standard manner, So perhaps the ENTIRE testimony from Dr. Ofshe would be used in Jessie's trial further anihilating it. Add in the evidence that the Judge sent the original confession BACK and came in to assist in fixing it so they can issue warrants. AND said confession would NOT be used against Damien and Jason being that Jessie would not testify. So what are we left with in the Echols Baldwin trial? Would the Prosecution be able to Successfully shred those alibi's 18 years out? Probably not. Satanism? Nope. Oh but the defense would bring up the physical evidence that doesn't point to them. The distance they would have had to travel to commit their "satanic thrill kill demon" murder. The fact that the crime scene was a disposal site not the actual scene. Animal predation, Wound experts, ALTERNATE SUSPECT.

    What is the prosecution truly left with?

    A pile of people who took back their statements, alluded to police pressure, coercion, pressure and suggestion and people who patently state that they lied. Which is exactly what they would have had 18 years ago if people hadn't been susceptible to the mass hysteria and I'm not talking Satanic Panic. Murder of a child is a horrible thing. Loosing 3 in one evil swoop is enough to send any community into a panic. BUT we are better than this now. It's time to right this wrong.

    October 2, 2011 at 10:56 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  62. Found GUILTY and PLEAD guilty

    The fact is that Jesse confessed THREE times. In detail. In front of his own lawyer, who asked him not to do this. Jesse knew what he was doing. Many of the details of his confessions were verified by others and the physical evidence.

    October 3, 2011 at 1:02 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • lawsquared

      No he did not. The first time was 17 year old Jessie by himself.

      Now as for the bible confession and the other "confession" made post conviction Here are the issues:
      Jessie states the water in the ditch was over his head. It was not.

      Jessies route is completely illogical. I do not believe from any of the statements Jessie made that he has ever really been near that location and I wonder WHY they never took him to the Blue Beacon and told him to lead them to the site. oh I know why because he wouldn't find it.

      Jessies timeline gives him exactly an hour and a half to get from the trailer park to the murder scene, participate, then end up at a wrestling match by 7:30... ON FOOT.

      Jessie states that they wiped up the crime scene with their fingers. Wiped up individual leaves and blades of grass. Blood + Fingers=problem.

      the old guy who looked like Damien who lived in the trailer park with a beard and a mustache who lead the satanic cult but who's name he does not remember. No such person was ever found to exist.

      Jessie repeatedly gets the direction wrong. Where the boys came upon them... how far the scene was from the pipe bridge.

      These are just SOME of the issues. Jessie was trying to get out of JAIL. He was 17 looking at a life sentence. He told the truth at trial and it got him no where so he decided to listen to the prosecution who had been contacting him over and over again during those weeks after and try to concoct a more "beleiveable" statement that could help him at least get a deal to get out of jail. His father told Jessie not to lie in court and Jessie recanted AGAIN. Then refused to testify against Damien and Jason. Adult Jason maintains that he was NOT there. He had no knowledge of the crime at all and that he was mistaken.

      October 3, 2011 at 9:36 am | Report abuse | Reply
  63. Ofshe critique

    Ofshe has been heavily critiqued. He has been critiqued for using secondary sources instead of primary ones to promote the theory that more legal miscarriages of justice may exist than actually do. At times, his expert witness testimony was either rejected, or had less-than positive outcomes at trial. In one case, testimony in court was found to lack credibility and he was accused by a court of attempting to blatantly coach a defendant and convince him that he was coerced psychologically. In another case, he was accused of drawing pseudoscientific conclusions as well as his work having methodological flaws.

    October 3, 2011 at 1:09 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • lawsquared

      Problem is OFSHE is no longer the ONLY false confession expert. According to most experts Jessie's confession hits every single point in terms of false confessions. From Age, to Mental capabilities, to pressure. For the final confession the prosecution was WELL aware that if they put the screws to Jessie there was a very good chance they could get him to do what they wanted once again. Why do you think they transported him to the courthouse for Damien and Jason's trials REPEATEDLY! False Confessions happen ALL the time in MANY MANY cases. Look at John Mark Carr in the JonBenet Case he confessed but his confession was so OFF that the police immediately determined his confession was false and full of crap. False Confessions happen. It has been proven it is not a pseudo science. It is a phenomena of law enforcement and criminal cases. Some do it voluntarily and some do it based on pressure. Make no mistake there is no provable physical evidence that was EVER elicited from Jessie's confession. No one as of yet has determined what the boys were ACTUALLY hit with. The police never kept the ACTUAL sticks that were used to weigh the boys bodies down into the water, they were collected weeks after the crime, No one even knows if they were the actual sticks and no DNA was found or pulled from those sticks. The prosecution needed to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the timeline, the location, the method, and accounting of the crime were accurate. Instead they took Jessie's information and tried to make the evidence fit that. THAT is the reason why we are here. If the WMPD attempted to collect all the evidence. Interview ALL the participants instead of getting people to Lie and trying to set Damien up from basically day friggin one. We wouldn't be here. Vickie Hutcheson is all you need to refute the honesty and integrity of the WMPD. If you believe she lied, you know this WAS a witchhunt. You guys focus on the confessions... Jessie would not testify against Damien and Jason in another trial... also the new trials would have been separate so no lumping anyone together. The fact is there is no evidence to KILL a man, and lock two up for life. There never was. There never will be.
      DNA is the key here. It would take one more nice sample from the one who is already implicated. Who aired his dirty laundry in a lawsuit against a celebrity and LOST. There is more questionable material about this person and his past than there ever was against the three. Including his ever changing stories, alibi, his VIOLENT past and present. There was quite a long list of people lining up to say he did it, since the DNA test results came back. And if you don't think that would have a bearing on the trial, I don't know what to tell you honestly. This is not cut and dry. It is not black and white. And its not over. Be happy that you have the false guilty for now. it won't last forever.

      October 3, 2011 at 8:55 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • susan

        "Be happy that you have the false guilty for now. it won't last forever."

        Can't wait, square.

        October 4, 2011 at 6:34 pm | Report abuse |
  64. He confessed THREE times

    But he confessed THREE times, once in front of his lawyer. There was NO coercion. All one needs to do is listen to the confessions to realize this. According the the defense it was a false confession, not to the prosecution. The prosecution believes that most of the facts fit the crime. And he admitted he changed some facts to throw the police off. He had no reason to confess much later, except because his conscience told him to do so. The 3 were seen with sticks before the crime was committed.

    The lack of DNA proves little. The bodies were underwater for 18 hours before they were found. There was plenty of evidence and testimony. Misskelley told two people he committed the crimes before he was arrested and Echols told or bragged to others about the crimes before he was arrested. One person could not commit these crimes. The knots tying the boys were tied 3 different ways, clearly suggesting that 3 people did this. The Luminol evidence also shows that several people were involved in the crime. The three that committed the crime were found guilty. This won't change.

    October 3, 2011 at 9:08 am | Report abuse | Reply
  65. Jesse and the 3 told others they committed the crime


    Jessie Misskelley’s confession to Buddy Lucas – May 6, 1993

    Lucas – So we sit there, sit there, and I said, he said man me Jason and Damien we went walking last night in the town of West Memphis, I said why didn’t you all come by and get me? We will we uh, we were in a hurry and everything go up there and come back home. I said alright I understand (inaudible) now since I found out I’m kinda glad he didn’t come by and get me

    Ridge – Okay, what did he tell you he do?

    Lucas – He told me that uh, that he got in a fight, that’s what he told me at first

    Ridge – Okay

    Lucas – I said Damien and Jason they helped you? He said um-yea and everything so I said well did you all hurt anybody? And he said yea, I didn’t think it was those 8 year old kids or anything, so I turn around and come to found out that Jason he was with Jason and Damien when they sacrificed them little kids. I was come and tell you all

    Jessie Misskelley’s confession to Kim Floresca – June 2, 1993

    Floresca said Misskelley told her and other students the day before he was arrested that he participated in the killings.

    A group of students were driving last Wednesday after school to a friend’s house to go swimming when Misskelley began telling his bizarre tale, she said.

    “He was saying he hit the little boy and the little boy ran off and he was taking him back to where Damien and the other boy were,” she said. According to Misskelley’s story, Echols had already killed the two other boys, she said....

    The details in Floresca’s quote match details that Misskelley told police in his June 3 confession to police — specifically that Misskelley chased down and brought back one boy who ran away.

    Damien Echols’ confession to William Winford Jones – May 1993

    According to notes by police officer Shane Griffin, DeQuita Dunham “stated that her son William Jones has heard Damien stating that he pulled a fast one on the police and that has been telling kids at Lakeshore that if they messed with him, he would do the same thing to them that he did to the 3 little boys.”

    William Winford Jones told WMPD detective Bryn Ridge that Damien Echols had confessed to him a week earlier.

    Damien Echols’ confession to Ken Watkins – May 7, 1993

    Kenneth- He said, i was there when the three little kids got killed.

    Ridge- That’s what he told you?

    Kenneth- That’s what he told me.

    On October 12, 1993, Ken Watkins took another polygraph at the West Memphis Police Department. To the question, “Did Damien tell you that he was there when those three young boys were killed?”, Watkins answered “yes”; the polygrapher considered this an honest answer. Watkins denied knowing who else was involved and who actually committed the murders; the polygrapher considered those answers deceptive.

    Damien Echols brags at the skating rink – May 1993
    On June 16, 1993, a twelve-year-old West Memphis girl named Brandy Wilson told police that she had overheard Damien Echols bragging about the murders at a local skating rink.

    Damien Echols brags at the softball park – late May 1993
    Several tween girls claimed to have heard Damien Echols bragging about the murders at a local girls softball game.....

    WM3 supporters often claim that the softball girls and Donna Medford later recanted. This is false. Some supporters point to this 2007 affidavit by Donna Medford (scroll down to Exhibit RR) as a recantation. It’s not. Donna Medford in 2007 repeated and affirmed exactly what she said in June 1993 and March 1994.

    Jason Baldwin’s confession to Michael Carson — Summer 1993
    In January 1994, sixteen-year-old Michael Carson contacted the Arkansas State Police with information. Carson and Jason Baldwin had both been held at the Craighead County Detention Center in summer 1993, and Carson claimed that Baldwin confessed to him sometime in late July or early August.

    ....However, there are good reasons to consider Michael Carson believable. By the time he came forward, Carson had been released and faced no charges. He had nothing to gain for his testimony. For what it’s worth, he passed a polygraph.

    ....Michael Carson reaffirmed his story in December 1996 and denied ever having met Johnny Preston. “That’s just something somebody has made up. They’re just trying to make me look bad so [Baldwin] can get off. I don’t go around crying about things in front of total strangers.”

    Witness Claiming Reports Are False
    Michael Carson stands by testimony
    Stan Mitchell, Arkansas Sun

    October 4, 2011 at 12:29 am | Report abuse | Reply
  66. Jo

    I am a supporter of the WM3. After 18 years, I hope they can now have a life. The loss of the 3 young boys is so sad. In my opinion, their killer(s) have remained at large all these years. So sad on so many levels.

    October 20, 2011 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse | Reply
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  68. Genaro Weigand

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    December 1, 2011 at 8:53 am | Report abuse | Reply
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  70. anthony baccare

    now will they recieve the left over cash in their fund or will they sue arkansas? becuase millinos of dollars are obviously in the account and they deserve the money. the served the time and should not have to worry about a single dollar for rest of thier lives

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    Get over it .......this is all about the next movie. They just want to make more that will never go to the real victIms. THE FAMILIES. Remember the ones that had to bury their children. We hear all about MW3 .Those parents will never get to see their children again. Sick of hearing about MW3.

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      So because he was a simpleton as you put it why does that mean his confession is irrelevant? Maybe that just explains why he got his statement wrong a few times, people are just too narrow minded when discussing this case

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    Miskelly confessed several times. When the 'false confession' move by his lawyers didn't work and he was convicted ... he confessed again. Why on earth would he INSIST (against his lawyers advice) to go on record with another confession post conviction?

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