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May 1st, 2012
10:15 PM ET

Dan Rather on the George W. Bush memos: "We reported a true story. That's the reason I'm no longer at CBS News"

On Tuesday evening, "Piers Morgan Tonight" welcomed legendary journalist Dan Rather, and his remarkable blend of insight and perspective.

Joining Piers Morgan for a live, face to face interview, the longtime "CBS Evening News" anchor and "60 Minutes" correspondent opened up about the much-scrutinized 2004 report on George W. Bush's Air National Guard service record:

"We reported a true story. That's the reason I'm no longer at CBS News," revealed Rather. "Those who found the story uncomfortable for their partisan political purposes attacked us at what they knew to be the weakest point, which was the documents."

The "60 Minutes Wednesday" segment focused on a series of memos discovered in the files of Bush's commanding officer. Though their authenticity has long been questioned, Rather noted that the documents, and his report, have stood up:

"I believed it at the time, or I wouldn't have put them on. I believed it ever since, and believe it to this day. And I remark, the longer we go and nobody comes forward with proof that the documents were not what they report to be, the more I believe it."

Watch the clip, and listen to the interview, as the author of the new book, "Rather Outspoken: My Life In The News," shared details of the conversation he had with Bush following the much-publicized incident.
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  1. motherlodebeth

    Dan Rather may have been a liberal reporter for years, but GWBush was the worst President we have had since I was born. Worse than Nixon. And thats saying a lot. But then I am a Libertarian, and believe the wars he got us into were horrid and illegal.

    GWB said pre election he wouldnt be a nation building President and then did a major flip flop, invaded a soverign nation, Iraq, who albeit had an evil leader, and started a war we have just gotten out of. Then he never looked for OBL, and even said in one news conference he wasnt interested in doing so. Yet OBL was the master mind of 9/11.

    Am still puzzle why more Americans werent mad as hell that MOST of the 9/11 killers came from Saudi Arabia yet GWB didnt go after the Saudi's. Probably because the Bush family considers them 'family'.

    May 1, 2012 at 11:04 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Guest

      Your obvious dislike for President Bush reveals your inability to have an objective opinion as to world events. The Saudis condemned the 9/11 attacks. Do a bit more research and then get back to me.

      May 2, 2012 at 12:47 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Tricia

        The Saudis condemned? That certainly makes them innocent. NOT.

        May 2, 2012 at 8:41 am | Report abuse |
      • helen turney

        You're an idiot. Bush was a nice guy but an idiot too. You think Bush was the President, Cheney was. Since when isn't it okay to tell the truth. Stick your head back in ground and pretend Bush had a brain.

        May 2, 2012 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • motherlodebeth

        For those who think the Saudi's condemed the 9/11 attack, anyone remember when the mayor of NYC refused a hefty donation from the one Saudi Prince because he told the mayor America had brought this on herself? Anyone remember the first Gulf War with the first Bush President? Where he sent our troops to Saudi bases, where our military who were doing the dirty work for the Saudi Royal family, were told NOT to wear the American flag or allow any Christian crosses, Bibles to be seen, even if they were for personal use on base?

        Anyone remember how in the last year its the Saudis who keep encouraging America to do something about Iran? As if we are the Saudi's hired hands. We have given the Saudis BILLIONS in military goods, and aid which was meant to help the poor in that oil rich, money rich country. Yet the poor grow in number. You get billions of poor Muslims seeing the Royal families getting help from the USA and you watch out. This breeds warriors who want to destroy their enemy and sadly we become that enemy.

        May 2, 2012 at 3:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • Barry Roope

        No need to do further research, the whole world watched as Bush did horrible things to the American people, that is a fact that cannot be disputed by anyone who is honest. He was so weak of a leader, he let Cheney run foriegn policy, and many young men and women are now mangled, maimed, and mentally traumatised, maybe you should research at Walter Reed Army Hospital, it won't take long to see how wrong Bush and Cheney are, It also won't take long to break your heart seeing our veterans in such broke conditions. May God bless and heal them all.

        May 2, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • Barry Roope

        No need to do further research, the whole world watched as Bush did horrible things to the American people, that is a fact that cannot be disputed by anyone who is honest. He was so weak of a leader, he let Cheney run foriegn policy, and many young men and women are now mangled, maimed, and mentally traumatised, maybe you should research at Walter Reed Army Hospital, it won't take long to see how wrong Bush and Cheney are, It also won't take long to break your heart seeing our veterans in such broke conditions. May God bless and heal them all. later

        May 2, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • Another guest.

        To guest. Read everything before you form your opinion, not just what you want to hear. Then your opinion could be respected. Sorry but you are the one who needs to read more deeply!

        May 2, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mike

        All that "guest" did was make a point that the person he was responding to has an enormous dislike for GWBush. And I agree that makes him/her completely incapable of forming an unbiased opinion of the man, or his Presidency.
        While I disagree with much the man did I can at least give credit where credit is due. We would not have gotten Bin Laden without the years of intelligence it took to track him down. All it took Obama to do was give the thumbs up. I can do that.
        The intelligence agencies are not getting enough credit for what they did in brining OBL to justice.
        As for the war in general? I guess we can agree to disagree. Many bad men are dead or in prison. Yes, many U.S. soldiers lost their lives but there is no mistaking the cause was just.
        And Bush didn't flip flop. He didn't go over to Iraq and build a nation. He simply got rid of the evil satanic dictator that was killing his own people and that allowed Iraq to decide for itself what kind of nation it wanted.
        If you keep believing all the conspiracy theories out there you will never get to the truth.

        May 2, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • jmcg

      The Saudi's will say whatever it takes to keep us from condemning their monarchy!!!We are a Democracy in bed with a Monarchy! Bush was a classic hypocrite and was in office for the sake of his family and their social register friends. Bush did whatever he wanted and dared Americans to try and stop him. He proved another thing, tell America you believe in Jesus and you can do anything!!!

      May 2, 2012 at 10:56 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Art

        And what is your source for these comments? You haven't given anyone anything other than what you speculate and you're nobody. You sound like someone who believes anything anyone tells you as long as they sound credible. My opinion of you is you went to a Detroit public school... How do you like that? It's basically the same thing you're doing.

        May 2, 2012 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • okc

      The Saudi's have been under attack from these same a little fact checking on these sites.

      May 2, 2012 at 11:30 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Don

      Unfortunately, I have to agree with you that GWB was the WORST president in history, AND I'M A REPUBLICAN.

      I hate to say it, because he also proved to be the worst blight on the party itself since Nixon. He lied his ass off to America, the UN and, obviously every nation in the world. He capitalized (as always) upon his daddy's stature, and was even able to convince a straightforward and well respected Secretary of State, Colin Powell, to buy into his BS and use his (Powell) stature to convince the UN of one of the biggest lies in history, to invade a sovereign nation.

      Worse yet, we re-elected him! Although, in fairness, we didn't really have a choice or good alternative.

      May 2, 2012 at 11:44 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • okc

        There were WMD's in Iraq....just because Carville laughs, doen't lessen the reality that a centrifuge is the first step to an Atomic bomb. All of those false positive chemical weapons were just one part of a bianary system.........just as we use. I agree he was an idiot top not prepare the Nation as to what would be found.
        I was a chemical warfare Specialist in the Army.

        May 3, 2012 at 9:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Luis

      You forgot Carter & Obama the true worst presidents since you were born!!!

      May 2, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Lilly Ann

        Amen brother!

        May 2, 2012 at 2:37 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mike

        I'll agree with Carter. Obama? The jury is still out. But he is working his way up the list of worst Presidents ever.

        May 2, 2012 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • jms58

        Your lies do not make it so.

        May 2, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Shaquita Rashad Jones

      For all of Bush's incompetence and evil influence from Cheney (the true Devil), Barack Husein Ayatola Obama is the most incompetent we have had EVER – making Carter look like a rocket scientist. 'Bama should have stayed in Chicago and built a resume. He may be a nice guy but he is ill equipped and followed every one of Bush's flawed poicies

      May 2, 2012 at 2:37 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Elle

        And to add, at least Bush was IN the military!!! Take care.

        May 2, 2012 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sara

        I'd like to point out that Jimmy Carter IS a rocket scientist. He has advanced degrees in Physics, He's also a humanitarian and a decent man who has done more for common people than any former president except someone else you probably reflexively hate, Bill Clinton.

        May 2, 2012 at 5:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ex-AF

      GW Bush never fulfilled his military obligation and it was largely overlooked during his campaigns and presidency. Simple math would have demonstrated it. Bush acknowledges he was an officer and a pilot and that he left the Texas Air National Guard with the rank of first lieutenant (1st Lt). For those who are not familiar with military ranks, when officers are commissioned they start with the rank of second lieutenant (2nd Lt). Their next promotion would be to first lieutenant (1st Lt.), followed by captain and then on up in rank. Normally after two years as 2nd Lt, officers are promoted to 1st Lt. Two years after that, they are promoted to captain. So, if Bush served over four years, he should have held the rank of captain. However, pilots incur an eight-year service obligation for finishing pilot training. It cost a lot of tax-payer dollars to train a pilot and the country needs to get it money’s worth, so there is a lengthy service commitment. So, if he was a 1st Lt, Bush served less than four years out of an eight-year service obligation.

      It is also convenient that the Texas Air National Guard conveniently “lost” his service record while W was the governor of Texas. However, has anyone made a Freedom of Information request to the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, MO for Bush’s military record?

      May 2, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • Fernando

        " However, has anyone made a Freedom of Information request to the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, MO for Bush’s military record?"

        July 23, 2014 at 7:54 am | Report abuse |
    • okc

      Do you remember Jimmy Carter.....a most sincere and honest man, but completely incompitant to be President. He is the worst. Well LBJ would be pusshing him for that..........or the guy that gave us the Bay of Pigs and Viet Nam, he would be in the running also.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:58 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • salvo

        He was betrayed in his mission to liberate our American citizens from Iran...

        May 2, 2012 at 4:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • WorldCares

        Correct me if I am wrong, I believe VietNam started in Ike's administration.

        May 3, 2012 at 5:42 am | Report abuse |
    • Maine Liberal

      No one has ever come foreward to say they were with bush for those months.

      40 years later I know my freshman year room mate in college and where he is living. Yet until FB have not had contract with him. He is not even close to being president. One would think if he was president that I would be telling people that he was my roommate. Why no one for Bush ?

      May 2, 2012 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • sal

      I agree with you 100%...

      May 2, 2012 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Sara

      Your analysis is spot-on. That any American still listens to the propaganda spewing from the Right is a mystery to me.

      May 2, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • tim

        Don't forget the propaganda from the liberal left

        May 2, 2012 at 6:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • gloria shepherd

      You are so right !!!!

      May 2, 2012 at 5:36 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Edward B

      Dan Rather Did you really say you reported the truth? The only way I can tell when you’re not telling the truth is when your lips are moving..
      Dan go away, no one believes you, you are a career liar, shrivel up a little more and blow away

      July 13, 2012 at 3:43 am | Report abuse | Reply
  2. Phyllis

    This is one of the funniest quotes of the day from Rather: that CBS ever had or has now any particle of "partisan political" feelings IN FAVOR of George W. Bush that would make them uncomfortable in airing a negative story about him. Really, I can hardly write that without laughing. But hey, never give in to reality, Dan. If you and Mary Mapes were not exposed as being so gullible and/or malicious, wouldn't you both be working in journalism today? I think Mary is just in her kitchen somewhere in East Dallas knitting socks. And Dan – is he still on some network that you can only access through your Maytag dryer.

    May 1, 2012 at 11:46 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • neonjeff

      We have seen an onslaught of conservative newsmen and women fabricating out of whole cloth stories to make themselves look better, and who they deem too liberal -create stories that make them look bad. Dan Rather and a group of investigative reporters found out that parts of Bush 43s past in the military were missing – lets look at it this way-what makes Nixon look bad is that he taped everything – but something like 23 minutes of tape that might have implicated him in wrongdoing was erased. In Bushs case, no one that was assigned during that time remembers Bush- and a years worth of records has evaporated. Is this illegal – I am not a legal expert – is it fishy- yes it is. Since more people subscribe to the Republican party, and most of the media focuses on conservative ideology-Dan was not bashing Bush, but doing his job as an investigative journalist. Phyllis – if Obama had an AWOL-he would never been elected. No one has evidence that seems to vindicate Bush. Considering the status of his father, wouldn't you think that some care would have been given to preserving the records of his enlisted son? After all, there does NOT seem to be a problem in finding the other airmen, who would have worked along side him, and their records. Because these reporters are not working at their craft today, or have found other things like retirement more pleasant, you make a snarky, illogical statement about where you think Mary is. This was Dan Rather stating why he was fired from CBS – it had to do with reporting a story that was 'true' to the best knowledge that they had at the time – and today – and having Republicans push to get these 'liberals' fired. And it worked. There are Nixon defenders to this day. You are a Bush defender. Expect people like me, who do not, nor ever have, voted for either a Republican or Democrat for president to point out how much Bush was out of his league ( I always vote third party.) – and how many problems that we have today that were created from him and his neocon team – from being ideological – over being humble and practical. I saw an interview with him, when he had just left the White House. He was asked by a reporter "Do you have any regrets? Have you made any mistakes?" His response was that he could not think of ANY mistakes that he made while in office. Let me ask you – Does this sound like a smart or humble person? Would you vote for Bush again, because you must have, if you are willing to defend Bush's honor against the biased liberal media elite of a Dan Rather.

      May 2, 2012 at 1:36 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Judith m. McBrayer

        Poor Dan – if this was the truth, why were you fired? Get over it. Bush has been blamed for everything wrong that has gone on in this country. Shame on you Piers for Always phrasing your questions to the liberal side. We all know that this administration has spent more money than all our presidents put together and has divided our country. Hopefully we will have a new president by year end and we can start moving our country forward. Had enough of the Bush Bashing, we could all be so lucky as to have him back in the white house. BO needs to find a job he can handle.

        May 2, 2012 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • okc

        That is a new one........I have never heard his records were missing............I did see on the news the paper work showing he had way over the minimum hours for his enlistment......mostly in the first two years them only meeting the minimum the last two.
        What is your source for the missing records. I hope not Dan Rather since he tried to palm off forged records and got fired for it.

        It was the truth only the paper word was odd

        May 3, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • okc

      Oh no, the story is true just the evidence is fake....that the best one. The written work was shown to be forged from the very begining, bloggers called it into question within" hours.

      May 2, 2012 at 11:33 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • kind person

      Phyllis – You are a mean person. If and when a mean person defends GW Bush, then I conclude...GWBush is mean-spirited also. The Dalai Lama can say all he wants about GWB being "nice", but what's "nice". It's a useless word and only the Dalai Lama could be naive enough and kind enough to say such a thing. The people in my town throw that word around all the time and I laugh....what's "nice". A smile, a joke, a pat on the back, happy? Perhaps. But the word itself is nebulous and should not be used to describe the President of the United States.

      May 3, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • okc if nice is meaningless what is "mean or mean-spirted"..... you are laughable......

        May 3, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Guest

    Rather stepped on it big by allowing his personal dislike for Bush to color his reporting. And so he paid for it by losing his job. You will notice he's hasn't occupied a news chair since. But like all bad pennies, they all turn up again......

    May 2, 2012 at 12:34 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • John Klenk

      Well I don't think he stepped in it for stating the truth. If you do your homework before popping off you would know that the bushes and the Bin Laden's have been in business together for years. Do you really think that the Bush's would let a little terrorism get in the way of a lucrative and profitable business. Of course they condemned the attacks if they had not they would have been labeled a terrorist state and been the next on the block. I am now a disabled vet injured from fighting in a war that was not justified. I love my country, but GW was the worst think to ever happen to this country and continues to create a rift among the people that elected him to make choices to protect the country not his business intrest.

      May 2, 2012 at 1:50 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Guest

        You have your opinion and I (USN '74-'82 but not disabled) have mine. I voted for Bush and would again. I also voted for Reagan.

        May 2, 2012 at 4:05 am | Report abuse |
      • Mike

        thank you for your service in the USN. It is people like you who serve and sacrifice that make this country great.
        Even if we do have to listen to some of the idiots on the internet.

        May 2, 2012 at 3:36 pm | Report abuse |
  4. enrique

    Morgan, you are a turd.

    May 2, 2012 at 12:55 am | Report abuse | Reply
  5. Carl R Gottstein Jr.

    And yet Obama gets a FREE pass from all these liberal clowns. They have zero credibility any more.

    May 2, 2012 at 5:52 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Fernando

      The funny part is that lil Barry Bama of Chicago has followed every Bush policy he criticzed – proving him an inexperienced fake! Anyone but BamBam in 2012. Even black people secretly admit they hate him. They just wont say it in public.

      May 2, 2012 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • LearnBlackHistoryBeforeYouSpeak

        Fernando who made you the expert on how Black people feel about President Obama? Most black people voted for President Obama because he is a GREAT MAN and cares about the people even you when you loose your job or get sick and have no health care or maybe even one of your kids and your insurance want cover you anymore not being of your fault. Just admit why you really don't care for your Commander In Chief that you can't seem to accept. And just so you know I voted for President Obama because of Michelle. I know you really don't understand that reason because again you don't understand what most Black people think you can't because you have never been black leaving in America dealing with decades of injustice. I will help you out here most black people don't care what you think. Much LOVE for MR. President Obama our commander in chief.

        May 2, 2012 at 5:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Deest

        You supply no data to back up what you say. Obama has been a good president, dealing with the worst recession in 80 years caused by his predecessor and the global economic collapse. I have traveled to 20 countries since Obama took office and the world has been very happy with his leadership, particularly in contrast with Bush, who alienated even our allies. The US is in much better shape economically than almost every other country during this crisis due to Obama's decisions. Just ask workers at GM.

        May 2, 2012 at 7:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • tim

      Amen, Carl. Liberals are losers

      May 2, 2012 at 6:38 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  6. Cliff Jackson

    Dan Rather was crucified by the NeoCon thugs Rove, Murdoch (See CIA Agent Plame) . He reported yet another story about GW, and how the man was a complete fraud. He never accomplished anything of substance his entire life, and had his service been in any way honorable he could have proven it. Like Mr. Rather states, the longer GW acts like this is a non-issue, the more vindicated he becomes. @ Carl G. I don't see the President getting a free pass from any news agency, but not because he's a Democrat, but because he is doing well as a Black President.

    May 2, 2012 at 7:45 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • okc

      Amazing how the truth is an attack..............

      May 2, 2012 at 11:39 am | Report abuse | Reply
  7. Rightieasshat

    I stand with Rather. I don't like Dan, But I believe he was done in by finding info on "W" that was damning and truthful. But I don't think "W" had the brains to deal with it. CHENEY on the other hand can make people disappear at the drop of a hat. George W Bush was one of the top 5 worst presidents in our history. He spent more money, he never put the war or tax cuts in his budget. Obama did. that's why 2009 looks as bad as it does. THIS IS FACT and you can look it up but you (see my name) will not. You have your head where the sun don;t shine and HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHY you vote republican. You know what you hate. but have nothing good to say about the "R"s. For good reason. Liars and thieves have no positive attributes.

    May 2, 2012 at 10:10 am | Report abuse | Reply
  8. Bill Kane

    Rather's reporting not withstanding, here are some facts that are not in dispute: Bush got in the National Guard when it was virtually impossible; he was asked to volunteer for duty in Vietnam (yes, that's the way it worked in those days – now you know why getting in the guard was so desireable in those days of a draft) and declined; after a couple of years he asked to be transfered to a base in Louisiana; He showed up in Louisana for his physical, but then went a year without attending required guard meetings; his two superior officiers refused to do his annual fitness report because they hadn't seen him; shortly after the fitness report problem he attended a year's worth of meetings in about six weeks; he was removed from flight status because he hadn't flown the required number of hours; shortly after "catching up" on his meetings, he requested early release from the guard so that he could attend graduate school; he was granted an early out and a good conduct discharge.
    I am a former USN Officer, Vietnam era.... There is no question that Bush got special treatment, which was the point of the Rather expose. A regular person would probably not have gotten into the guard. If they had and didn't show up for meetings they would have been punished (and probably forced onto active duty .... and not gotten an early out and a good conduct discharge.). These are all facts taken from available records.

    May 2, 2012 at 11:45 am | Report abuse | Reply
  9. Bob Ingram

    The May issue of Texas Monthly has a very detailed review of the facts in this case by Joe Hagan. It is well worth reading.

    May 2, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  10. oussu

    At least Rather was a Marine. That gives him loads more credibility, regardless of party leanings or political motivations, than GWB who avoided real service, just like his daddy, as did Dick Cheney and many of Rather's chief critics.

    May 2, 2012 at 12:29 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • norm

      I am no fan of the Bush family, but in fairness George Bush Sr was a decorated fighter pilot in WWII.

      May 2, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse | Reply
      • 2cents4free

        Stay focused, the story is about Jr.

        May 2, 2012 at 4:19 pm | Report abuse |
  11. colazo1948

    To "neonjeff" and "Bill Kane": Thank you guys for your excellent comments, very educating and well researched work and I'm so happy that the little village in the middle of Texas got it's idiot back.

    May 2, 2012 at 12:42 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  12. jimsan

    dan rather should be commended for taking the igh road in repoting the facts that the "bush baby" got the military assignment that he did because of family connections. the fact that he blew all of the economic surplus we had built up prior to his taking office and blowing it on an illegal war and hiring civilians to do the dirty work that would have ordinarily gone to the military was simply to pad his and cheny's pockets. shame, shame shame!

    May 2, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  13. Gregg

    Serving and dying for your country is considered noble and patriotic because if it weren't sold/marketed this way to the public then the rich would have a problem, "who would die for or instead of them"?

    Why do you think we make such a big deal about and glamorize "war heroes"?
    In our country, money is everything.

    What a sad comment on our so-called "culture" we really do not have any.

    May 2, 2012 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Concerned American

      Ha!! If you think the Saudi's were behind 9/11, then you must think the grass is purple. It was our own country that did this to us, not anyone else. Look at the evidence...or lack thereof. Read testimony from the eye witnesses. Take a look into GWB's family... His grandfather, Prescott, along with DuPont, Chase Bank, and others, was behind the plot to have FDR overthrown to instill a Hitler-like society. George Sr., was in the CIA. His oil company was ZAPATA, an Off Shore Co. (which he named after a communist Mexican revolutionary who would invade towns and murder every man, woman and child. Bush also named an earlier oil company after Zapata, a questionable choice for a hero). The code name for the Bay of Pigs invasion was Operation ZAPATA! The name "Operation Zapata" was top secret and known only to a very few.
      Plus, GWB got his funding FROM OBL!! Wake up everybody!!

      May 2, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  14. kstulak

    Get over it old man,just go away, far away.

    May 2, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  15. JoJo

    In my opinion, the 2 greatest tragedies in the downturn of human civilization were: (1) the burning of the great library at Alexandria two thousand years ago, and (2) the appointment of George Bush, Jr. over Al Gore as President of the United States in 2000. At a pivotal point at the beginning of the millennium, when America and the human race could have started down either a path toward a Golden Age of Enlightenment or one leading catastrophe by catastrophe into a new Dark Age of Ignorance, by the slimmest of margins, we tipped into the latter. And it's too late now.

    May 2, 2012 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  16. vote4america

    Among the US presidents, GWB is representatively the worst one. That has no doubt about it. This conclusion is not drawn by either conservatives or liberalians, it is cast by GWB himself. He has fully utilized his 8 years presidency to proof that he is definitely fallen into the category. His failure presidency also needs to issue an alert to those voters who selected him. Experimenting a leadership has the severe consequence, that is how we are now. Voters should hold the election accountable. A religious conservative guy may not be the good one for the president. Personality is not the replacement to the qualification. That is the hard lesson that americans need to learn in the next election.

    May 2, 2012 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  17. NFLD thought

    Ah yes, the good ole freedom of speech days under Dubya.
    Imagine; a Commander in Chief sending thousands to face their death in an illegal war when he himself was too cowardly to go.
    Can't wai to hear how this ends up being Obama's fault

    May 2, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • franklovesfl

      And how was the war illegal? What law was broken? Or do you feel better about yourself when you say it?

      May 2, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Mike

      Illegal war? You mean the one that most Democrats voted for also?
      "he himself was too cowardly to go"? Was the President supposed to go fight in Iraq or Afghanistan? Are you an idiot or do you just play one on the internet?
      If you're referring to his past military career then I'd like to see Obama's military record. Oh yeah, there isn't one.
      You have no room to talk there buddy.

      May 2, 2012 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  18. Marilyn

    Geezzzzzz, get over it already.....why waste time on this.......why not do something about the idoit in the office now...please!

    May 2, 2012 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • 2cents4free

      \Let's just sweep it under the rug huh?

      May 2, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Tom

      The idiot president now had to deal with a financial disaster created by Bush, and a Republican party that won't let him fix it. Granted the stimulus package was a waste of money.

      May 2, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • ProudVet

      Correction, let's do something about the "idiot" who is going to run against Obama. You know, the guy who at Bain Capital caused massive layoffs from the companies his predatory organization bought. The one responsible for sending American jobs to China. The guy whose health program became the model for so-called "Obama Care". And now he disavows his own work. That Mormon dude who believes he will become a god on his very own planet someday. Let us expose him for what he is. Just compare his past statements to those of today.

      And GW? I know his military history. Dan Rather reports correctly. He was a drunk, a coke head and a shirker of duty. Just another child of privilege who was propped up, pandered to and lied for his entire life. That he managed to get two terms as President is testimony to the collective IQ of Americans. Stupid people are simply too stupid to recognize their own stupidity. Yes Marilyn, that includes you.

      May 2, 2012 at 7:27 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Dorly

      First, geez oh man people will claim grphas are flawed if they don't what they say.Two, grphas are dangerous because people think they're all scientific.Three, science is dangerous because people think it's all truthy.Four, people are dangerous because they basically believe whatever they want.And Five. The truth is that the delineation is probably unhelpful, except insofar as you can draw a line between when it was a bad idea to be expanding gov't expenditure and when it was a good idea to be expanding gov't expenditure. To do that, you'd have to go back a way, probably. When people were competing to buy houses in Baltimore County, it was time to raise the interest rate and tell everyone to go home to their wife and kids and play foosball or something.Once everyone starts firing everybody, that's when deficit spending starts to make sense. Hard to see that on this graph, though. Pretty colors, maybe.Oh, and six. Obama RULLEZZZ. I'll just leave that there.

      June 27, 2012 at 9:33 am | Report abuse | Reply
  19. chris

    I'm a Republican now. I didn't know my party affiliation when Bush was in. He cut taxes and increased spending and set a world record for deficit spending. Barak thought it was a good idea to break Bush's record, it hasn't worked out so well. Now each American owes $50,000, even the kids. This isn't even touching Social Security problems. George Bush was a wolf in sheeps clothing. His wars were a disgrace. Barak is a wolf with little disguise left and mocks the American model of government. I "hoped" he could bring some racial civility to the country. I was wrong about that. I realy can't decide which is President is worse. I flipped a coin – Bush wins!

    May 2, 2012 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  20. James

    Those who are against Obama I am sure are Republicans, DUH !
    Now either they are super rich which is fair they have their basis covered OR if they are not THAN they are in this for a big ride once again !
    Republicans are completely sold out to big lobby more than their counterparts and they are fooling common people on basis of religious and racial agendas !

    If Republicans really worked for common people than after all this years ! For quite a few decades in fact the SOUTH, their SOUTH would have been far better off than NORTH and NORTHEAST or other so called liberal states right ?

    If you are one of a common middle class person, ask your parents if they are alive and retired what it would be like living without Social Security, Medicare and for those of us with prime age about no more jobs because the super RICH like to ship it with every opportunity they get.

    May 2, 2012 at 4:46 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  21. Tom

    George W. Bush was a joke of a president. There is no way he can be defended. The really sad thing is, the republicans go out of their way to find presidential candidates that are simply rubber stamps for the wealthiest and most out of touch Americans.

    May 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  22. hammer

    Get over it.Bush was President for 8 years theres nothing anybody can do about it.Just like Bill Clinton was and a lot of people think what he did was bad to.Obama is President now and I'm sure people are going to cry about him far years to come and I would say the same thing to them to get over it.For now on every time we change President the first thing they are going to do is to see if they can dig up something bad on the last President.That is what the two parties have became.

    May 2, 2012 at 6:15 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  23. John the dino moderate

    As a moderate (facing exstinction) I am always fascinated by the far left and the far right. They never let the facts get in the way of their opinions. Mr Rather was a great reporter. He was also a liberal. All reporters unwittingly at times let their perspectives leak into their reporting. They are human. He was wrong this time and just refuses to admit it. That's an ego's bitterness. I watched and enjoyed him for years and then would switch channels and get another perspective. No big deal. As for Bush, I loved his dad who got beat up from right and left. George W. had tougher decisions to make than most presidents. I agreed with him most in the first term and was disappointed in second term. The specifics of which I'll leave to debate with my former marxist friend (now a liberal democrat...he gor a job) and my reactionary friend who is just to the right of atilla the hun. Of course, there will be beers involved as I prod each of them with a stick of facts until they pass out from a fit of denials and high blood pressure or too many beers.

    May 2, 2012 at 6:17 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  24. The Dude

    Bush had no business in the White House.. He is Sarah Palin with a penis.

    May 2, 2012 at 7:07 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  25. MaxinScottsdale

    GWB was just a figure head for Cheney and 30 other very white rich men that run the GOP. Two of them are named KOCH. They don't like to lose and will spend Hundreds of millions to get their power back.

    May 3, 2012 at 2:12 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Shaikh

      Mmhhh ok data surely reenrspets the reality but there is a bias in the potential perception:- This graph wants to make you believe that Obama's administration is doing better than Bush's administration concerning the labour market.- This is clearly false, because job loss itself is not correlated with the decisions of those two leaders but rather with the impact of the crisis on a specific timeframe and the decisions of the companies according to this same timeframe. – What I would like to see is the impact of president Obama's decisions and policies to drive job CREATION, which are currently unexisting. This is where a correlation may exist, in my opinion.

      June 27, 2012 at 6:26 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  26. WorldCares

    Nobody cares about the truth anymore. Everywhere you look, people have their faces down, plastered to their cellphones; much ado about nothing. Ironically, big money maker for the world. What a waste of human consumption.
    Don't stop and smell the roses anhymore. You can find a picture, like a robot, like a donkey to a carrot.
    Gotta love the mass.

    May 3, 2012 at 6:05 am | Report abuse | Reply
  27. Skip

    "Fake but accurate." No wonder CBS showed him the door and he continues to tell is little lies. What other fake news stories did hie foist on us over the years?

    May 3, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse | Reply
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