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Michael Bloomberg on stronger gun laws: "I don't understand why the police officers across this country don't stand up collectively and say we're going to go on strike"
This evening, Piers Morgan invited Mayor Michael Bloomberg to join him in studio for an honest and revealing discussion in the aftermath of Friday's deadly shooting in Aurora, CO.
In a primetime exclusive interview, the head of the executive branch of New York City's government provided his solution for implementing stricter gun laws in America:
"I don't understand why the police officers across this country don't stand up collectively and say we're going to go on strike," Bloomberg told the "Piers Morgan Tonight" host. "We're not going to protect you unless you, the public, through your legislature, do what's required to keep us safe."
A co-founder of Mayors Against Illegal Guns – a coalition of more than 600 mayors fighting illegal gun trafficking and gun violence – Bloomberg is frustrated with the level of dangerous ammunition and supplies that are readily available:
"Police officers want to go home to their families. And we're doing everything we can to make their job more difficult, but more importantly, more dangerous, by leaving guns in the hands of people who shouldn't have them and letting people who have those guns buy things like armor-piercing bullets," he detailed. "The only reason to have an armor-piercing bullet is to go through a bullet-resistant vest. The only people that wear bullet-resistant vests are our police officers."
Watch the clip, and listen to the interview, as the only man to ever serve three consecutive terms as the Mayor of New York City sat down for candid commentary on the state of the country's gun culture.
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Why can someone sane or whacky beable to have 6000 rounds of ammunition. Forget debating the 2nd amendment
it's a no win situation BUT AGAIN ASKE ONE QUESTION. Who needs 600o rounds of ammunition.
Who needs to buy more than a sixpack of beer? Who needs a car that is more than 100 HP? Why do women need more than 3 pairs of shoes?
Have you ever purchased anything in bulk for cheaper prices? Ammo is no different.
A 12-pack is NOT bulk if you have company. The average person does NOT drive over 100 MPH. Shoes are variant, and a trend. Point is, the average person does not need to buy ammo in bulk including me, a licensed gun owner.
I like your analogy, James.
100 HP...horsepower!!!
@James,
Imagine how many DUI deaths we could prevent if only allowing 6 beer limit purchase per day per person. Sounds just as silly as talking about limit the buying of ammunition in bulk BUT alcohol has killed more people in the US than shooting deaths. So, you think it is perfectly fine to have large volumes of alcohol on hand for potential guests, what if somebody wants to invite all their buddies to go shooting one weekend?
A responsible gun owner does not just own a gun but should become proficient in the use of such weapon. This takes time, practice, and ammunition. You are doing yourself and others a diservice by claiming to be a gun owner then insisting gun owner rights be violated.
Jim, Are you really saying that teaching our children the difference between right and wrong is the solution to this problem? My parents never had to tell me to be sure never to buy 6000 rounds of ammo and 4 weapons and then open fire in a theatre. Holmes is a sick individual whose idea of right and wrong is very different than that of a sane person.
Comparing ammo to beer and shoes is ludicrous even if you plan to poke someone in the eye with a stiletto heel or hit someone over the head with a beer bottle.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Beth,
Please note that I am giving a response to the question "Who needs 6000 rounds of ammunition?". I don't think women NEED a closet full of shoes or an alcoholic NEEDS a fridge full of booze BUT I am not going to pass my judgement on them. If that is what they want to spend their money on, it is none of my business. Also, please note that alcohol kills more people each year than firearm related murders – I'm talking about the liquid in the bottles, not the bottles themselves. I won't comment on shoes because the combination of crazy women and high heels scare me.
6,000 rounds and/or 4 guns do not kill, just as matches & gasoline do not commit arson.
6,000 rounds of ammo is a good weekend at the range with a friend or two.
The average instruction course requires at least 500 rounds per day.
Excellent James!! Alcohol should require a 4 hour waiting period too.
My car has 505 HP and my next car may well have about 700 HP. Off the show room floor. And, boy, is it fun!
Great analogy James, the number one killer in the country is car wrecks and speed is probably the number one reason for those, number two is alcohal which no one ever talks about because everyone is drinking and acting as if it is medicinal which is a crock. Now we have medicinal marajuana which may be the biggest lie being told today to justify a population in a stupor induced state of denial(how else could a totally unqualified person like Obama get elected otherwise). While it is ridiculous to have 6000 rounds, guns don't kill nearly as many people as these other things do.
Having thousands of rounds for the same reason as a home alarm system, peace of mind. I am sure most of those rounds won't see the light of day but they are there just in case, at least I sure hope they don't. Paronoid? Maybe, but tyranny is a funny thing, never know when it will rear its ugly head.
the british are coming isn't that what we fought for?
begin sarcasm– Imagine how many lives we could save if only a few people were allowed to drive. Say cab drivers, ambulance drivers, law enforcement officers. If we left the driving only to "professionals" we could eliminate nearly 40,000 deaths a year. We need to outlaw automobiles, but why stop there, people die or suffer severe bodily harm in bicycle accidents. All you have to do is call a cab at 2:00 AM wait 30 minutes to run to the pharmacy to pick up medications for you 3 year old, The waiting time yeah it might be a hour in some remote parts of the country like Roundup Montana, but the lives saved each year would be well worth the pain. –end sarcasm
Bloomberg is a Blooming idiot – he needs to seek mental Health help – a collosial stupid idea. – not even close to being sane
Here in Minnesota, many of our boats have over 100hp. I drive a standard V6 with 190hp. I suppose you drive a Volt? or some car that gets 40mpg like a dumb car (SMART) yea, little metal coffin. DO not want Government to dictate what we drive, I like a pickup truck, 4X4 SUV, a Van, that rides smooth, great in a crash, hauls lots of people, or things. This is America, not Europe, and we do not want to be like them. You cannot regulate behavior, but give penalty for not obeying laws, or society loses its freedom. If people make bad personal choices, (Drinking too much beer and driving), then just enforce the existing laws and make them pay for thier mistakes. (instead of buying their way out of trouble) IF the Citizens in Colorado had been armed with Pistols at the movie theater, The Crazy nut would have had 30 bullets hitting him for every one he popped off. The idea that taking guns away from law abiding citizens is going to lower crime is wrong, stupid, and disgusting. If someone wants to purchase 1000 rounds of bullets, paying for it, that is their business, their money invested, not yours.
A common misconception among persons who have never purchased a firearm is the existence of a "gun license". Unlike driving a car or owning a dog, keeping and bearing a firearm is a right, not a privilege to be licensed. Although there are various permits involving the purchase, sale, carry, and use of firearms the "licensed gun owner" is really for the most part a fiction in the minds of non-gun owners, So when @James says he is a "Licensed Gun Owner" I would love to ask him; Who issued your gun license? Did you get your license before you bought your gun, like with getting a driver's license before you buy a car – or did you get it after buying your gun like getting a dog license after you buy your dog...
Please ask the victims of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pot, Lenin, etc, etc, etc, if they could use a nice powerful automatic weapon and all the ammunition they can get.
Protecting yourself is a duty given at birth and is never vacated.
I need to buy 6000 rounds of ammo. You know why? BECAUSE I LIVE IN A FREE COUNTRY. 6000 rounds is not that much. I've shot more than that on a weekend at the shooting range.
Just pointing out that DUI related deaths are not the no. 1 cause of death, those would probably fall under the accidents category (not all are DUI related) which is 5th behind 1. Heart disease. 2. Cancer. 3. Cerebrovascular disease and 4. Chronic lower respIratory disease. However, it should also be noted that homicide (not all homicides are shootings) comes in at number 15 on the list, accounting for 0.7 percent of all deaths in the USA, statistically speaking.
James, you will never get anywhere talking common sense. Most of these people on here are clueless. They don't want to understand the bigger picture.
So, I think with this discussion we can establish that men should not be able to buy more than a six pack of beer a day, women can't buy more than three pairs of shoes per season, and I haven't concluded a reasonable amount of ammo. This is an entertaining discussion! LMAO
If the views of bloomberg and his elitist crowd become mainstream, you may come to regret your comment. Bloomberg is ruining New York, turning it into a fascist police state. The Big Apple has become, well, just a big fruit.
You do realize that people not only do people buy guns for protection or hunting, but also to shoot at the range for fun? Some people collect guns and have dozens or even hundreds. They go to the range with a few people and can easily plow through that much ammo. It's a hobby for a lot of people – collecting or modifying them. It's really no different than modifying a car. It's all perfectly legal until you do something stupid like street race and injure, kill, or put people in danger. At that point, the person is to blame, not the tool. After a racer kills some innocent people, there's no outcry to ban modification of cars. There are tons of stabbing deaths and injuries in the US, but no one is calling on the outlaw of knives. Every time there's a tragedy, people like to find blame everywhere except where it's warranted: Toward the person who committed the crime. If guns were illegal for civilian ownership, he would have probably just fashioned a bomb and done it that way. Ban one thing and sicko will just find another way.
@Beth...."Comparing ammo to beer and shoes is ludicrous"
Having a little trouble comprehending those simple analogies there aren't we girl ??
I'm afarid YOU are the one that is "Ludicrous"... sweetie... (he said in his most condesending tone 🙂 )
I buy ammo in bulk because one trip the the range and my wife and I burn through 300 rounds
To James: Nicely done. I like it...
Perhaps alcohol should be limited in it's intensity.."No on NEEDS 100proof whiskey or vodka...only a person looking to get drunk..the average person only needs 3.2 beer...so that's the limit"
Music – "We are not anti-music...we are anti hearing loss and the statistics are startling...our children (after all, everything is about the precious children is it not?) are losing their hearing. You can have music, all you want. You don't NEED loud rap and rock and roll...quiet soothing lullabyes are just fine for the average person"
Motorcyles – gone. no one NEEDS them, certainly not the average person..especially children
Kids sports – gone. have you seen the violence. no one NEEDS the sports as much as they do functioning knee joints, spines and concussion-less life. Certainly not the average person. Govt and liscensed professionals can fashion after school programs for fitness. We will add diet while we are at it. Who really NEEDS doritos? certainly not the average person.
Water – lifes liquid essence...drink all you want. But who really NEEDS to shower every day? certainly not the average person. Think how much we could save if we simply went to saturday night baths. families could share water. Think of the benefits to society and.....Gaia.
Buying things in bulk is simply common sense regardless of what we're talking about. And just because you are a gun owner doesn't mean you have common sense, as James illustrates. Make no mistake, what Queen Bloomberg "really" wants is to ban "all" firarms. NYC doesn't have too many guns. NYC has too many black teenagers.
Better yet James, why not just ban alcohol all together. No alcohol no alcohol related deaths in automobile accidents from vehicles that can't go over 60 MPH regardless of what you do to them.
This has nothing what to do with controlling crime and everything to do with making crime committed government leaders easier. I can adequately protect myself against violent crime committed against me by individual criminals. I can't do the same when the criminals are the government that is supposed to be protecting me and my rights.
James, your proposal is a perfect example of how policy proposals made by those who are ignorant can sound quite legiimate. When I go to the range to improve my shooting skills and safety, I go through 300 rounds or more. I go once or twice a months. You want gun owners to be well practiced. Owning guns one has not become utterly proficient with is not something you really want, whether you know it or not. The actions of one person determining the rights of all people is not a legitimate way to make policy, sorry.
@James(not James, but @James): The purpose for stocking up on ammunition is to be able to defend yourself against governments. Do you not realize that one of the purposes of allowing citizens to have firearms was to defend themselves from the government? Did you just forget about all of that or conveniently leave it out to support your view?
The fact that the Colorado nutcase had 6000 round of ammo means nothing.
He killed 12 and injured over 50 using probably less than 150 rounds.
The AR-15 he used was "mean looking"–it did have a large magazine and I believe they should be banned, not the weapon. BTW, I am a NRA member.
I don't hear calls to ban Ford F-250 trucks or roadside trees after 15 people died Monday in South Texas in a traffic accident. "It was the tire's fault"–even though the guy had 22 people loaded into the pickup-gimmee a break!
From what I understand (I'm not a gun owner but I fully support American's right to own guns) someone who regularly goes to a firing range can go through 6,000 rounds in a month. Also, do you mean 100 mph (miles per hour) or HP (Horsepower). And finally, when you ask who needs 6,000 rounds of ammo, does that include the cops who protect Bloomberg when he's out and about? Is he saying that they, too, should go on strike? I'm sure he doesn't. It's easy to tell everyone else to disarm when you're surrounded by armed protection 24/7
With every new law that is passed we lose more of our freedom. It needs to stop now. It's nobody's damn business how much ammo I might have.
You all are giving the wrong reasons when people say "What do you need 6000 rounds of ammo for?" You get defensive and you try to justify. What do I need 6000 rounds of ammo for? None of your damn business, that's why! It's a free country. They justify soda taxes by saying, soda is bad for you, what do you need to drink soda for? And people give pathetic reasons why they drink soda. Why do I drink soda? NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS, THAT'S WHY!
James: 4 bricks of .22cal ammunition is about $90 and is 6k rounds of ammunition. I can blaze through that with my boys in a weekend. Target practice is a fun way to spend an afternoon.
So the question is: How much ammunition should I be ALLOWED to have? What makes you safe? 1k rounds? 500 rounds? 20 rounds? 1? none? You are saying that I have no RIGHT to have more rounds then you THINK I should have. Who made you the arbiter of all things good? If you have 4 different guns and you have the same amount of ammo for each is 1500 rounds per gun. What is the big deal? Oh wait. You are one of those anti-gun nuts that think guns cause people to kill other people.
What a ridiculous argument. But thanks for the laugh clown.
I try to buy ammo in bulk in order to save money.
Da' Comerade. Ve Vill all do as YOU vish.
Who are you to determine how many beers or rounds of ammo a person purchases? It takes a lot of damn gall to say that if you don't need/want something then nobody else should have it either!
14 people killed in a Van Accident in Texas...how many killed in Bus accidents in NY?..think Buses and Vans should be banned, they carry too many people...and lead to worse accidents...This is the stupidy of liberal thinking!...they just never get it..had one or more people in that theater been packing end of story.If more decent people allowed to carry the criminals and hoods would have what to fear..now why fear they have the liberal mindset in their favor.
Did he say 100 MPH, NO, he said 100 HP (horsepower) which only the weakest of cars produce today.
The right to own a gun, and as many rounds as you want to have, is the most essential thing we have to protect our own individual liberty. What is liberty? It is the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. So what good are all 3 of those things, especially life, if I am not allowed to have a gun to protect my life? Criminals will always have guns regardless of the laws, so the only thing that gun control does is take away the rights of law abiding citizens to protect themselves, just like what happened in that theater. The stats consistently show that the more armed a populace is, the less crime there is. Look, guns are dangerous, but the only thing more dangerous is not having them.
I blew 1000 rounds in a weekend once. Not that much ammo really if you have ever been shooting.
I buy an 8 pack of 'Little Kings' every 8-10 days. Doctor said a little alcohol lowers cholesterol . Everyone should buy a gun and enough ammunition until the government stops breeding dummmies on welfare just to vote demo.
@ James The licensed gun owner. So you actually asked for permission to exercise your Right? Your part of the problem
The real question is how can a mayor of NY not know that police officer are not allowed to strike by law? Like most Liberals and Loons own the Left, they lose the ability of rational thought and instead operate on their emotions rather than intellect.
6000 rounds of ammo is a good supply but for people who shoot alot that won't last a couple of months. I always buy in bulk because I shoot alot, it saves money. Anyway, did this murderer shoot 6000 rounds of ammo in his insane spree? No. So the 6000 number is just that, an abstract number (6000 rounds weighs hundreds of pounds, so he would never be able to attack with that. If he only bought 200 rounds, would that be too much for you anti-2nd amendemt guys. I am on my way to buy 525 rounds of .22 ammo because it's on sale...is that wrong of me?
I go to the range and fire 2000 rounds on the weekends,is that a problem? I buy in bulk because it's cheaper.
How about this for an analogy: If guns were banned, we would be effectively bent over with our cheeks spread for anyone wishing to enter our domains.
James,
One reason that you might need 6000 rounds of ammo is that our government may some day collapse under the weight of its own spending and irresponsibility. If that were to happen, who would protect you and your family?
Bloomburg doesn't have to worry about protecting himself. He can afford to hire his own if and when the city stops paying for his protection. So of course he is the right person to remove firearms from lawabiding citizens and to let criminals keep the guns.
It seems like every year there is more laws for guns, and if the great people that are running our cities, states, and country can,t even begin to take care of the laws that are in place. That is because they really don.t care about them cause there real agenda is trying to get all the guns out of the people hands just like Europe and Australia. But they now all to well the American people will stnt up fpr what is right and for our Freedom and we know that Freedom is not free.
I know we had a Civil War before andmy grandfather was ini it I guess it can happen again.
In less than .001% of cases a gun is actually used for protection. So the argument for protection is SO slim that it almost doesn't exist. At your northern border gun crime drops 600% instantly. Why? There is no easy access to guns. THAT is the truth your country dances around that is crystal clear to everyone else in the world. Cut throught the BS and have a REAL discussion.
@SteveAustin1971–And did you know that 98.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
An even more dire consequence to American citizens is, buffoons like Mayor Bloomberg! If New Yorkers are so sophisticated & intelligent, why do they elect an idiot like him?!
@steveaustin1971... did you know that two milioin incidents per year take place where a lawfully carried firearm prevents an act of serious violence.. without a shot being fired? This number os from FBI statistics. In other words, had those fuirearms not been brought into those deadly situations, there likely would have been at leasat two million more violent deaths per year... that is far more than people killed in car crashes nationwide per year. SO.... your claim is unfounded.
Further, did you know that Law Enforcement kill more people per year with their firearms than all other non-military deaths combined?
Steveaustin ask the Brits about how well it went when they took away guns from their citizens. They're demanding them back now. And that statistic you cited is so ridiculous it isn't funny. Just because a gun doesn't prevent gun violence explicitly it doesn't it isn't intrinsic to the prevention of violence on the whole. And it isn't even about self defense. It's about defense against the tyranny of the government. Read some history for once in your life.
@steveaustin1971
"At your northern border gun crime drops 600% instantly."
Maybe because there is about 1/10th of US population figure residing here in Canada. That would work out then to 1000% drop in gun related crimes volume if the rates were the same . Which indicates your figure is bogus and made up as you go.
"There is no easy access to guns."
US: You go to store, fill up the form, wait a bit, pay & pickup your gun.
CA: You go to store, fill up the form, wait some longer, pay & pickup your gun.
So, disregarding the longer waiting period, I don't see much difference. I am sick of damn US liberals using Canada as some sort of authority or a buttress for their arguments, especially when the arguments are a) inaccurate or b) utter bologna.
BTW, I own 2 rifles.
There was a string of burglaries a wile ago on the road where I live. The houses left and right of me were broken into. Mine was left alone. A RCMP officer came by to ask if I saw/heard something. I told him I just returned from a 2-week trip. He pointed to a sign on my door, with a pic of a magnum and words: "We don't call 911!".
He: "You've got a magnum?"
Me: "No, just a couple of rifles".
He "Paperwork all in order."
Me: "Yes."
He, again pointing at he sign: "Well, it does seems to work. Have a nice day."
@SteveAustin1971...interesting you brought up the "Northern" border like the violence on our Southern border has something to do with gun laws. In fact Mexico has some of the most strict gun laws in the world and could be compared to the UK as far as the laws. Maybe the violence is less in at our Northern border becaue it is a different culture with different values.
Bloomberg is a classic communist – – first it's smoking, salt, large quanties of food, large drinks, and now strip everyone of guns. This man made money in a free America and now he wants to take freedoms from everyone else - because he thinks he's GOD - smarter than the small people.
Consider his point, no police.
OK, good deal, they are WORTHLESS ANYWAY. Did they STOP this crime? No.
Did they stop the 8 murders and 40 assults in Chicago last weekend? No.
What he is advocating is eliminating Police to CAUSE a rise in crime (which wont happen, Police cannot stop crime and its not their job anyway) that would be a self fulfilling prophecy to use others deaths to push his political agenda.
he truly is a Traitor
BloomTurd, YOU FIRST. YOU give up YOUR armed police protection.
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Exactly, the elite do not give a sh-t about us. His bodyguards are paid by us as are all his self appointed benefits. Bet they all have guns and I bet he would not want them to give them up unless the police paid by us protected him
The bigger question is why was Bloomberg elected to a third term. NY mayors are term limited at 2 terms. He used a loop hole because he thinks himself indespensible.
@SteveAustin1971: go to http://tiny.cc/us-can for homicide rates for US (minus Black and Hispanic population) vs Canada and look at non-firearm homicide graph. Homicide rate for Canada is actually a little higher than US. Interesting that homicide by beatings is about eight times higher in Canada than in US. That's 800% higher. (Beating is defined as struck by/against.) And to someone who says well you can only kill one person at a time by beating vs many by a gun with large ammo clip which somehow makes killing with a gun worse than killing by beating, when you stand back and look at the large picture, for every 100 people killed by beating in the US, 700 more were killed by beating in Canada. The fact those 700 were killed "one at a time" is I suspect of small comfort to them.
Maybe bloomburg should take a walk through ni66ertown without his security detail............at midnight.
If you ban guns from the public politicians should not allow their secret service agents to carry guns. There would be no need right.. since the guns are all gone!!(sarcasm) I bet they would still have them. Why u ask? Bc the bad guys will still get them. Why is your life/American dream any more important than mine?
I say right on. Obama should put the slap down on these over-buyers of ammonition. How would any of you so-call 2nd amendment tea party repubicans like it to have 5,000 bullets (or more) flying over your building????
All mayor Blloomberg is trying to say is STOP THE VIOLENCE against our people. Cops and all other forms of government protection to you AND ME are in dangerous times every day, every SINGLE day!
You tellyour police how many bullets you want and have it to be approved BEFORE you are able to purchase. No more of this, I'm gonna get on line to order me some bullets day.
Keep the guns but keep track of how many of the bullets for EACH gun there is. Mayor and police needs list of EACH gunowner WITH a list of how many bullets he have for EACH gun. Not any trouble at all to do that then we and all of the police will be safer than ever before (please).
Markell Q
It must feel marvelous to be so blissful. Look up the reasoning behind the second amendment. It has nothing to do with self-defense, home defense, target shooting, or hunting. It's inclusion is specifically to overthrow a corrupt, tyrannical government should the need arise. So, why would you want a semi-corrupt government to know who has the best tools to carry out the revolution? Not to mention the cost increase for ammo would be astronomical and that's the entire purpose for buying in bulk. If this type or regulating occurred, people would just start hand-loading (manufacturing) their ammunition which is untraceable. Hundreds of thousands of people already do it to save money. There's always a loophole and the will to do evil is stronger than any law can contain. It would just hurt law-abiding citizens in the end.
@Markell
So many things wrong with this. First, it's ammUnition, and 'bullet' refers only to the projectile. Please get your terminology right before attacking my rights. Secondly, how would you enforce it? Pass a law like this, and you've just opened another black market, adding to the crime rate. Finally, it only takes one round to shoot someone. The guy in the theater fired less than a hundred. An extremely tight limit of, say, one box per month, and you still have plenty of ammo for mayhem in no time.
If people give up their guns, who will it be that does that? The answer is obvious; honest people who don't intend to harm other people.
So who will have guns at that point? Police and ...?
Do we have enough Police to protect everyone? No, so that means after disarmament, we will need MORE POLICE.
Good normal people are not the problem and never will be.
Politician's logic for getting rid of guns is strictly a control issue, or if you are libertarian minded, a totalitarian state issue.
Grab your life jackets because here we are straightening the deck chairs while the ship is sinking!!
This upcoming election will produce no different conditions if we don't get out and campaign! Donate! Go door to door! Ask people to vote! Ask if they are registered to vote! Register them yourself! Drive them to the polls! A click of the mouse won’t do it! We can't just sit at our internet! We may not have it much longer if we get a Deja Vu!!!
I don’t want to live on my knees, do you?
Enough with the so-called "gun control."Gun control has become increasingly more strict over the past several decades, while violent crime rates have increased. Why is this? Because criminals DON'T CARE if guns are illegal! They can get them anyway! What happens is that you scare innocent law-abiding citizens away from responsible gun use, while criminals become bolder about arming themselves. The end result is a population of 90% disarmed innocent bystanders, and 10% violent criminals armed to the teeth with no opposition.Let's say you are an armed criminal looking to rob someone at gunpoint, so you single out an old lady as a victim, drag her into an alleyway and put a gun to her head, and tell her to give you her purse. Why did you go about it that way? Because you're pretty damned sure she's not packing a gun, that's why!Now, let's say that you go into the same situation knowing there's a 50/50 chance that little old lady might be packing a 45 caliber HAND-CANNON? Are you still gonna be so gung-ho about taking her purse? Hell no, you're not.Criminals don't look for a fair fight. They look to take advantage, and guess what? They HAVE the advantage, because while the rest of us have been disarming ourselves (and one another), they've been buying more guns.Remember, criminals DON'T CARE if guns are illegal. They'll buy them anyway.Wake up, people. Shaking your finger at violent criminals and saying, "You can't have guns / drugs / etc" just makes you look like a doofus. And it can very well get you shot, for being a moron. p.s I live in Aurora, CO
I was going to leave a comment, but I believe you covered about all I was going to say. 🙂
Amen
I could'nt agree more. Guns now then what cars because drinking and driving
How can you even call this an interview? Piers is a thug, a horrible interviewer. No wonder CNN's ratings are a all-time low. CNN should release an apology for this one-sided, simple minded discussion.
you are so deluded I wouldn't even know where to begin...better not argue with a fool or people might not be able to tell the difference.
Where do you think criminals GET the guns? They STEAL them from so called "responsible" gun owners.
Well made, "common sense" points. Unfortunately "common sense" and political ambition are mutually exclusive! These hacks will say whatever it takes to get their way. They also don't mention that statistically, you are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than a "terrorist". .
Beautifully said Gina!! and 1971 if you are a responsible homeowner/gun owner/business owner etc. you also know how to lock up your guns so they stay safe. You are an idiot if you think that is how most criminals get their guns. They buy them from illegal dealers other criminals and yes they they do occasionally steal them but guess what, I don't feel sorry for the one that gets shot with a gun in the process of trying to steal anything from someone!! Jill
Well said. Bloomberg is just another fool who believes in Utopia. Taking protection away from the weak is not the answer to crime. The police should go on strike until criminals who use guns are seriously punished and off the streets, preferably outsourced to a Turkish prison for fifty years or so. The case could be made for making crimes committed with a gun capital offenses.
@steveaustin1971
"Where do you think criminals GET the guns? They STEAL them from so called "responsible" gun owners."
Here we go again, making stuff up.. Given the paucity of reports of stolen guns and/or backtracking guns back to their former owners, your assertion is bogus.
Most guns acquired by criminals are smuggled in and then distributed through their contacts. The southern border is so porous that you could smuggle in a herd of elephants without much fuss.
Preemptively using Canada as example so you can be free of temptation... The illegal guns, (handguns predominantly) used by criminals are smuggled in through ports or via impromptu pickup points on the coast. There is not that many handguns around to steal from their legal owners. That doesn't mean that there aren't any at all.
Just FYI, recently, more restrictive Canadian gun laws were repealed (Long gun registry).
Yes because the Police should say they will stop protecting us. Mind you the SCOTUS has already stated you can no reasonable expectation to have your safety provided for by the POLICE. So which is it? Cops carry guns to protect themselves not anyone else. I do so for the same reason. 1000000000000000 people could walk right by and so long as non of them attacks me or others around me the gun isn't going anywhere. So the problem from my standpoint is that you have bad people willing to do bad things to other people, I am not going to be one of those victims. I don't care what politician says about any of it! You can't keep drugs out of JAILS and you think you can get guns completely removed from society? A society filled with people that fought or had family members DIE fighting for their rights to those very guns. Good luck with that confiscation plan. The plus side is there won't be any unfunded pensions to pay out to the volunteers as they will never see retirement. Not a single gun owner I know would hand over anything to the government. All these people buying guns in sudden rushes at times are not buying them so they have something to "turn in" a few months from now. Get a Clue!
Actually, violent crime rates are at its lowest since WWII. Ownership of guns has increased as well.
That is a total lie. Gun laws have become more lax over the last two decades courtesy of the NRA and their lobbying arm. There hasn't been a serious gun bill since the Brady bill and it's been watered down by the same crew.
Gun fanatics just can't have an honest conversation. I don't know why anyone bothers.
Further more, I'd say that guns have a more fundamental purpose. It is our right as human beings to be able to protect ourselves and our families from enemies foreign and domestic. No matter how big or how small. There should really be no debate on this issue. Most who are pro-gun control are not motivated by wanting to save peoples lives. More realistically, they are pro-people control or pro-behavior control. The 2nd ammendment is vital to a free country in which the people give power to the government rather than the government giving power to the people. I like how Benjamin Franklin puts is: "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
The so called interview by Pierce was the worst I have ever seen. No matter what side you fall on with this issue, Pierce handled this interview like a child. If you want a good honest debate, you must be able to listen to the other side and let that person have his point. It was very frustrating to listen to that broadcast. Very poor! Grandstanding like that, and not allowing your guest to get a word in edge wise just seems as a set up.
I agree, it was appalling to watch the program. Piers Morgan just wanted to hear himself talk. It was rude of him. I was frustrated watching the show. It was not a debate, it was a Piers Morgan filibuster. Get rid of him. Everytime I watch him, he does the same thing.....his lips are moving, but he is never saying anything that anyone even care to listen to. . He loves to rip on America as if we are all idiots and his beloved country has it all right. Send him back to where he came from.
I agree about the tenor of this interview. I actually agree with Piers' position but his interview style was unprofessional and unworthy of CNN. He definitely likes to hear himself talk more than he cares about presenting informative interviews to the public. I work at a huge office and my coworkers one at a time are leaving CNN evenings because of him. As one of the last die hard fans who followed Larry King and want to stay loyal to CNN, I must say that someone at the network needs to reign him in and maintain the professionalism that CNN is known for. Guests should be allowed to speak irregardless of which side of the issue they come down on. The interviewer should be the thoughtful conduit of information rather than an arrogant person who wishes he was being interviewed every night rather than the guest. It seems that Piers Morgan has become addicted to sensationalism and tries to artificially manufacture it more and more. I too believe that there should be less guns and tighter laws, however, I would have been interested to hear John Lott's extensive research and opinion on the matter. CNN went as far as to invite him – the network should have treated him with common courtesy and respect rather than use him as a tool by which Piers could try to create "buzz" tomorrow. Although people tune in when they hear this type of thing is going on – or they look it up the next day – I hear over and over from everyone I know at work, at the gym, at parties that they have very little respect for Piers as an interviewer and will use nights like tonight as a reason to stop watching CNN. Please reign him in or find someone else who is interesting, probing, professional, and dynamic. (By the way – this is my first time to EVER be driven to post any comments to any webpage – that is how strongly I feel)
I agree with Chad and Darren. I am 45 y/o and find it amazing that about 4 years ago my eyes were opened to the open abuse by the media to use their influence to push their agenda and to heck with unbiased reporting. It was at that time I quit watching news reports as they are only attempting to influence me to vote for a politician who make open empty promises to fix things without an idea of how. Now I am subjected to a British reporter telling me how to act like an American. Really? I could watch his grandstanding so long. He then invited his guests for an "open honest debate" which looked more like a pack of wolves (Morgan, bloomberg and Co.) devouring poor Mr. Lott without ever letting him explain his side. I tried to understand what Mr. Lott was trying to ay but he was constantly interrupted by Morgan. I did notice that Bloomberg was never interrupted. One sided? Without a doubt. Can someone email me and let me know when some true unbiased news reporting will be back on the air? Im done with the media
Daren,
Well said. Regardless of your stance on this issue, Pierce is a disgrace to the journalistic profession and CNN should hold their head down low.
I agree Pierce is an idiot. Give the guy a chance to talk. Dershowitz a complete moron. They would not give him a second to answer and the idiot kept cutting him off because he didn't want to hear what he had to say. Pierce is a foreigner not even a citizen of this country. I love to hear other opinions, but he was clearly not interested in the other opinion. I will never watch that Larry King want to be again. That wa
I agree Pier's was disrespectful he needs to replaced !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I totally agree and I am still in shock over seeing the so-called interviews Piers tried to conduct last night. Generally, I enjoy watching his shows, but to sit there and watch him set up that one guy, John Lott, or whatever his name was, was a disgrace. It really opened my eyes to what our news media has become, as if my perception of it wasn't bad enough already. I hope Piers sees how unfair and unprofessional he was by looking at all of these comments and has this guy back on his show for an apology and a chance to actually tell the other side of the story. That was the bad thing, too. I really wanted to hear the arguments on both sides, but do not watch the news if you want a fair debate, not on Piers' show, anyway.
One more thing. Brits and Europeans seem to get absolutely furious if we do not do exactly as they do. It's mind boggling how obsessed so many of them are with this issue and all issues where the US doesn't do as they do. Most Americans could care less what they do in their countries, so why do they get so upset when we feel differently about something like this which doesn't affect them in the least? When another country in the world is different, the Brits and Europeans say they respect cultural differences. When it's the US, they have to even go so far as to set out to try to change us. I googled this last night and there it was, a bunch of Brits talking about how stupid Americans are b/c we do not accept having our guns taken away. Isn't that what some countries have done right before their governments take them over? And most Brits/Europeans know they're countries are going to no longer belong to them in a matter of years now. It isn't even a question of if. It's just a question of when.
Agreed. Pierce Morgan was and has always been a disgust. Was one of the worst interviews I have ever seen. That's what's the MSM has become. Trying to tell people what to believe and what the facts are instead of having real debates about issues. By the way... the liberal Governor of Colorado agreed with John Lott.
Totally agree with all of these thoughts. I have enjoyed Piers in the past; but he definitely let his childness show. There is no way I could have learned about or understood either position with the way he behaved. He definitely shot himself in the foot. And now that I see the disclaimer about lively and courteous discussion below, I woud like to ask CNN to make sure their hosts do the same.
Interesting that they refered to John Lott as "Anti-Gun Control" vs. "Gun Rights Advocate" words mean things. Piers had an opportunity to learn something, but instead just sounded like a fool. It's obvious that he has no understanding of the mechanical workings of guns and didn't want to hear it when John asked for his understanding. His lack of professionalism was disapointing. Next time he should take the cotton out of his ears and put it in his mouth.
Agree. Utterly self-serving, Morgan offered nothing respectable in this interview. I would like to see CNN replace him. Dershowitz seemed incapable of a factual comment. Garbage.
In regards to your NRA guest tonight on "more guns less crime"...etc. Does he suggest...that we need to all walk around with a gun and holster to protect ourselves? What is this the WILD-WILD-WEST? Imagine everyone walking around packing a gun...sitting in a bar under the influence of alcohol or whatever & a disagreement happens and BOOM! a gun fight breaks out...BACK TO THE GUNSMOKE DAYS!!!!
Really...lets ask the deeper questions...."why do so many people turn to violence to protect themselves"?...Nobody wants to deal with the tougher deeper questions!!! War and abuse is sooooo yesterday!!!!! Wake up people! Peace & Love is the only answer!!!! Remember Ghandi? Jesus Christ?....just asking!
That's illegal. No where in the US can you get drunk in a bar while carrying a gun. How can you just make things up to push your side of an arguement that you know nothing about?
Please dont be fooled by this interview. I pray you are more intelgent than your comment would leave us to believe.
How could you even know what the Lott had to say about gun control. Piers Morgan did not let the guy finish a sentence or thought without interrupting him. Dershowitz and Morgan were shameful in their dialogues. Everything for them is about emotion and not information. Morgan and Dershowitz ..."you are the junk science in this interview".
Exactly Lori..I made the same comment futher down on the blog..great minds think alike I guess. These people who are arguing for guns and more guns overlook the fact that our great county tops by far, the list of murders/100,000 among industrialized nations. They need to use their brains, do the research and then open their mouths.
Lori, please read up on what it takes to get a conceal carry license. It involves more than just paying a fee. Also it is illegal in most states to CC in a bar. In the states that allow it you cannot consume alcohol. Statistics show that CC holders are the most law abiding of citizens.
yes that is where we are nothing can change it you can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hand you give the police your gun and ill keep mine since im a felon anyway yippie ki yay people have guns to fight crazy cops atlanta ga
The wild west wasn't wild at all. Do some real research and try being more informed and less opinionated. Yes. you are responsible for your own self defense regardless if your attacker has a gun or not. I suppose you support a rapist having their way with someone rather than that women defending herself.
Hey Lori, yupppppppppppp gunsmoke, hmmm good old series did you ever watch it.. To your comments, oh thats right other people already addressed them. War and terror are not sooooooooo yesterday as you proclaim lady. Sorry to burst your bubble. Wish it were true. So the next time you are walking and some criminal who does not agree with your philosophy asks you for your purse or wants to have his/her way with you, Give them your opinion... I am sure they will find it very interesting...
I agree. There are sheep and then there are folks that want to be more than sheep. Then again, just call and wait for the police to show up. Hats off the Aurora police though. They were there very fast. Well done. That doesn't always happen if you know your history. But for me, I want to have the option of carrying to protect family, friends and myself.
71 year old foils two armed robbers.
14 year old stops his home from being invaded.
Mother repels attacker save her and her two children.
Salt Lake City Man stops a knife wielding assalant in a grocery store.
Aurora Colorado, a man stops an armed attack in a church.
Winter Springs, 48 year old woman catches a burglar in her home.
All of these folks used a gun to stop crimes.
@DN,
Did you happen to notice that most of the gun crimes you cite were in places where gun ownership is already illegal or severely restricted? Chicago ring a bell? DC?
everyone wants to depend on someone else to keep them safe. Gun owners do police and the government a favor by helping protect themselves and take responsibility for themselves. Violence and war may be "so yesterday" to you, but to everyone else in the real world violence is real, and war is very much a reality. So while your cowering in a corner allowing a criminal to run the joint in and when the police arrive, hopefully someone with a cool head and good heart will be packing some heat, to protect the good people who can't protect themselves. Saying no one but police can be trusted with guns is crazy. your father could'nt be trusted with a firearm, and be trusted to do whats right in a dangerous, life-threatening situation? or would he be one of your imaginary charecters sitting in a bar causing fights?
How many times do we have to hear this "Wild-Wild West hyperbole from the left??? You think you would be afraid to go out if people were armed? Do some research in the state you live in... if there are concealed weapon permits issued in your state, find out how many. I've seen some numbers concerning my own state of Florida that put the concealed weapons permits at over 750,000. Lions and Tigers and Bears Oh MY!!
"We would not allow our enemies to have guns, why would we let them to have ideas"? (Joseph Stalin) 20 million people in Russia found out what happens when the people lose their weapons and you, Lori, should remember not one gun law has ever stopped someone from killing another person. Aurora had gun laws so why don't you tell me how effective they were. Maybe you would enjoy a dozen years in a gulag to find out what happens when only the government has weapons. Neither would you have to worry about weapons anymore, nor would you have to worry about thinking.
By the way, Gandhi was strongly opposed to the Arms Act of 1878, which prohibited native Indians from owning firearms without express permission from the British government. In fact, he sold the First World War to Indians as a way to learn to handle weapons. While the Mahatma believed that nonviolence should be practiced if at all possible, he appreciated that a massive imbalance of force is not a good idea.
Thank you, Piers Morgan, for a full court press against idiots who think more guns make sense. Liberty means being able to go to the movies without worrying about being shot, NOT the right to be armed to the teeth.
With that way of thinking, it wont be too long before you can go to the movies. If and when the govt gives you permission, please make sure to go on your assigned day.
I see we have another person brain washed into Communisn. Start thinking on your own.
JANET...you are absolutely 100 percent correct. thank you for your post.
if you could disarm criminals it would already be done i take guns to movies that wouldnt happen in atlanta i dont know any one who leaves their house without a gun
The guy's a tool, and a total jerk when anyone else has an opinion different than his. CNN wonders why their ratings continue to plummet? A large part of the problem is Piers..
@Janet
Such a NAIVE little girl..... 🙁 and to think she probable votes too...
One person in that room with a concealed pistol could have ended that with a quickness, and we wouldn't even be talking about it? Remember the guy in Florida who shot the two men (non-lethal shooting, shot one in rear end), probably not, because that problem was solve quickly.
One person, one gun, one bullet.
how are they really going to ban guns? Are they going to go home to home all over America to find the 300 million guns in civilian hands? One thing that will happen is the price for guns will go through the roof and legal owners will make a fortune selling off their collections underground.
Exactly. Libs love to tell us there is NOTHING they can do about illegals. They are already here, lets just amnisty them all. Yet they go 100% flip with guns that are also already here. Black market will make it even easier for criminals to get guns once they are banned and worth 1000% more than someone paid for them.
PIERS AND CNN SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES! I HAVE NEVER SEEN A MORE ONE-SIDED, CONDENSENDING INTERVIEW IN MY LIVE. YOU ASK A GUY A QUESTION, HI FACTS AND STATISTICS DISPORVE YOU POINT, AND YOU SHUT HIM DOWN NOT TO LOOK LIKE AN ASS! I HAVE LOST ALL RESPECT FOR CNN. PIERS IS A SMUG, PATRONIZING THUG! HE GAVE NO ROOM FOR THE GUY TO TALK, THE OTHER GUY IS SCREAMING ABOUT BANNING ALL GUNS AND THAT THEY ARE A FALIC, PHYSCHOLOGICAL CRUTCH! OMG, I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS! YOU CALL THAT AN INTERVIEW! YOU REALIZE THAT ALMOST EVERY GUN MURDER COMMITTED IN THIS COUNTRY IS COMMITTED BY SOMEONE WHO HAS OBTAINED GUNS ILLEGALLY! ONCE AGAIN, PUNISHING THE FEW, LAW ABIDING CITIZENS, FOR THE ACTIONS OF THE BAD GUYS! THOUSANDS OF BLACKS KIDS DIE EACH YEAR BY OTHER BLACK KIDS, YET ONE GUY GOES CRAZY, AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BANNING ALL GUNS! IM SURE THE GANG MEMBER WHO WANTS MY TV LOVES THAT IDEA! THE IDEA THAT A NON-CITIZEN GETS ON TV AND SCOLDS AMERICAN POLICY AND ITS CITIZENS IS DOWNRIGHT OFFENSIVE! NO WONDER CNN'S RATING ARE AT A 20 YEAR LOW! RIDICULOUS!
Great Post ! Morgan and Bloomberg are Liberals ! When Barry Obama Has to leave Perhaps he wll take them back to Kenya with him ! Thanks Fellow Gun Owner
If you want to save lives in America, then outlaw alcohol. Drunk drivers kill far more Americans each year than firearms. I don't hear anyone complaining about how easily alcohol is obtained.
How many guns did Ted Kaczynski use? Jeffrey Dahmer? Or even the hundreds that Timoth McVeigh killed? This guy was not an ordinary idiot. If someone has the psychological desire to go in to a theater of people and just randomly start killing people, he wiill find a way. Would we have rather seen napalm, no control on these materials. Pipe bombs, heavy machinery, airplanes, gas mains, household chemicals, maybe these should all be banned too? Using this tragedy to spark a debate about gun control is sickening. All of CNN should be proud to using this tragedy and disrespecting all those that died. Congratulations for the great media. This is worse than some of the comedians on the forums making light of this tragedy.
The most important thing to REMEMBER is that the 2nd amendment was written and put in place so that WE THE PEOPLE can DEFEND OURSELVES FROM AN OPPRESSIVE GOVERNMENT .
This was a great show and I think Pierce did an excellent job!
If ALL of you would read the 2nd amendment you would think twice about what you say about gun bans,,it specifies that THE MILITIA can have that right to carry arms...Who of you are in a militia????? I own several fire arms and I DARE anyone to break into my home !!!! I have a Niece whom WAS IN THAT THEATER,how many of you can get the facts staight from a survivor ???? Talk all you want but get the FACTS before you do......
No, Doris, you need to read the amendment. It says for a well regulated militia. A militia is made up of civilians. It comes together only when needed. Thus, we are allowed to have weapons so that we are ready and able when the militia needs to be brought together.
Besides.. when is the idiot brit going to understand we will NOT roll over like HIS COUNTRY did and give up our weapons to watch crime soar over 300% within the 1st year of the BAN! Yea.. they like to hide that little jewel of information! ha ha.. Idiots.
I used my sidearm to rescue a policeman who was being attacked. I have the incident on video. It was used in court. I was later awarded a medal. TV news was aware of this the night of the occurrence.. The story was of no interest to them. Media has an agenda. "Good" gun stories are to be ignored.
Thanks Paul for your heroism!! You are 100% correct. Good gun stories ARE ignored in the media. Check this out. There was another shooting in Aurora, CO back in April that was ignored because it had a positive outcome. http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/12175-two-aurora-shootings-one-widely-known-the-other-ignored
This was the first time I ever watched this Peirs Morgan talk show. I thought it was a joke that Peirs would not shut up for one second to let that one guy to explain his point a view, but he let that one tell the US that he wants 90 percent of the guns taken away. I do believe gun control works to a point.
I will say if Peirs want to make a point then he needs to be an American!
Pierce I will never watch your show again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The way you treated Mr. Lott was deplorable.. You are not a us citizen and have no clue what you are talking about. And just grandstanding the whole interview. I would hope the people of the united states of america will run you back to the country you came from. Especially the ones from Alaska. CNN needs to get rid of him immediately.
Piers, your argumentative stance with Mr. Lott on gun ( 7/23/2012 )control was rude and very unprofessional. You are a poor interviewer if your guest cannot speak without your constant interruption to get the last word. I grew so frustrated I had to change channels. You were absolutely unbearable and I thought Mr. Lott should have gotten up and left. You need to put your super ego on hold in these situations and let the viewer hear the other side even if we don't agree with the guest. Why did you bother have him on in the first place ? Pat
what an idiot! go back to england if you can't understand the basic principals of what makes americans american! We desire to defend ourselves! We will defend ourselves. Of course that is something this guy will never understand as he is english and they huddle in their homes waiting for americans to save thier butts from their enemies. Them and every other country in the world. We are one of the only countries in the world who aren't afraid of being walked over like poland or england because we can, to the man, defend ourselves with guns. and if that mean that a few may fall by the way...then so be it.
I am stupefied over the government. First let me say here in Georgia I am not even able to buy Allegra D, an allergy medication unless I provide a drivers license. Then the government controls and monitors your use. god forbid, like me, your allergy meds come up missing upon return trip from tour luggage. The government does not allow you to go in and replace them without a 150.00 doctor appointment and missed afternoon of work. BUT they allow anyone to purchase 600 rounds of ammo no questions asked?
.Colorado and Aurora have done nothing since our 1993 visit there where someone walked into a Chucky Cheese and opened fire. See this link. http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/24747080/detail.html.
American Goverment of Insanity!
It's simple Luciana, Gun ownership is a right...medicine apparently is not. Rather than advocate for taking away our rights try to do something constructive with your pie hole and advocate a simpler means of abusing, I mean getting the drugs you need.
Well we obviously know how Piers feels about America and guns. CNN needs to do something with this guy. This may not be a shocker but Piers does this in nearly every interview. He must like hearing himself talk.
The biggest problem with this interview, aside from the fact that it really wasn't an interview at all, more like a self righteous mugging at the hands of a loud mouth posing as an interviewer, is that this kind of non-discussion is the reason nothing substantial ever happens with regard to issues like gun control in this country. Just like on the morgan show, it all becomes just a show, where the loudest mouth, in this case Morgan's mouth, wins the day. Over time, both sides get a chance to shout the loudest, win their day, but real change, based on real discussion never happens. Piers Morgan, and loud mouths like him, are the problem and the reason nothing substantial ever gets done.
Well first of all , I do need 600 rds of ammo why because its my sport i love to go target shooting..theres you first answer.
Reading these comments only confirms that the majority of the people in our great country are really sick, stupid and more stupid than ever!
Are you looking in a mirror?
Who needs 6000 rounds of ammunition ? Gee, have you never shopped at a Warehouse like Costco, Sam's Club, or BJ's ?? Ammo is simply cheaper in bulk, just like anything else.
Who would use 6000 rounds of ammo ?? I have a friend who is an Olympic shooter: she goes through several thousand rounds of ammo a WEEK. I was at a shooting event last weekend, 10 guys went through twice that amount in 8 hours. . . .
Exactly...i think it is weirder when people buy a 64 roll pack of TP. or Mayo in 5 gallon buckets. and they don't own a restaurant.
6,000 rounds is nothing. Some folks I know have 20 or 30,000 rounds....and they have never shot a human being. But they sure do target practice a lot.
"The media insist that crime is the major concern of the American public today. In this connection they generally push the point that a disarmed society would be a crime-free society. They will not accept the truth that if you take all the guns off the street you still will have a crime problem, whereas if you take the criminals off the street you cannot have a gun problem." – Col. Jeff Cooper
He is comparing the possibility to be dangerous and dangerous. it is saddening to see BETH's comments. i alone in a group of 6-10 every weekend would shoot off 200 rounds and another 100 throughout the week. that is 1,000 – 1,500 rounds a month personally, younger then my teens, and the primary reason to not shoot more? sore. your question is "WHY DO I NEED 6000 BULLETS?!?!?1" the answer is YOU do not. and applying personal bias, have you ever 1. shot a gun, 2. owned a gun, 3. hunted. 4 if 1. is yes, enjoyed it.
Piers Morgan's gun control program was a consummate farce, enough to convert any rational pro-control viewer to the gun rights position. PM wouldn't John Lott finish a sentence, screeched at him hysterically, and allowed Alan Dershowitz to say whatever he wished, including personal attacks, and rejection of objective data in favour of "common sense". PM's and AD's hysteria meant they rejected reason in favour of emotion.
FWIW, my wife and I go through 600-800 rounds of .40 S&W per month, at least 400 rounds of 5.56/.223, and god knows how many .22LR rounds. We go to the range once a week, sometimes as many as three times a week, as we both a) enjoy it immensely and b) like to keep our marksmanship up to snuff. You can do the math, so we typically buy ammo in bulk of 1k rounds per caliber (more for the .22LR). I have plenty of ammo in the house, from target rounds to hollow points for the .40S&W handguns to military grade rounds for my 5.56mm rifle. To those of us that actually shoot a lot 6k rounds isn't really an unheard of number, as we typically stock up, shoot, stock up, shoot.
Given how expensive ammo is, buying in bulk can bring the per round cost down significantly.
I have been a police officer for 12 years and I encourage all my friends and family to get and carry guns, so we LEO's are not a monolithic group. In fact, Bloomberg would find, if he left the northeast, that very large amounts of police officers support gun rights and concealed carry. Police and community are a partnership against felons. Bloomberg seems to envision more of a model where police maintain all the firearms and keep people safe about as effectively as he kept snow off the streets this past winter. Works for him just fine. The common homeowner, not so much. We (police) can get to a 9-1-1 call in 3 or 4 minutes. In many critical incidents, like a home invasion or a convenience store robbery, that 3 or 4 minutes could likely be 2 or 3 minutes after you're already a murder statistic. I'm also insulted Mayor Bloomberg thinks he can rabble-rouse unionized police officers like he and the Dems agitate other union workers. We see through your political games, sir.
I swear something ain't right with this man Bloomberg head ya know.... smh how in the hell he trying to persuade NYC cops to go on strike, lmao... how in the heck would that help... I believe that he family to the Bush's family
Ok so he blames Mr.Obama for not getting these guns off the streets ...lmao (he's a comedian) and he tells the NYC police to strike, stand up and let Obama know that he needs to get the guns off the streets ....
So tell me Mr.Mayor how does this go.... no police on the streets of Harlem, Bronx and Brooklyn in this here summer time and the guns will just get up and walk themselves into the police station?So while we have no PO-Po on the streets in the ghettos, he seems to think that they violence will cease until the cops go back to work!!! I am not understanding this logic at all.... why is someone anyone not challenging him on this topic.... pls let him stop airing his mouth cause he really doesn't make sense most of the time .....
Did he fire off 6000 rounds of ammunition? What does that even matter? Nothing. Have you carried 6000 rounds of ammunition? It'd be about 200+ lbs. How exactly does this have any meaning in this situation, if anything "carrying" 6000 rounds of ammunition would have slowed the shooter down (Not that he could have even been carrying that along with a rifle, handgun and shotgun, but somehow common sense falls on deaf ears in emotionally charge rantings)
Pretty sure I have close to 6000 rounds. Maybe closer to 5k. I'm a cop. I like to shoot!! I like to reload my own ammo as well!! I've got several guns, different calibers, which requires different ammo. I frequently buy 1000 rounds at a time, just for 1 caliber of gun. ALOT cheaper that way!! Ever go shooting? I'll head out back at my little farm with the family and over a couple hours we could easily shoot 2-3000 rounds!
Chances are you don't own firearms, never served in the military and have no idea how firearms function.
Using your logic, your First Amendment rights should be restricted to quill and scroll, a Gutenberg press, and a soap box on which to stand.
If YOU don't want to own firearms, that's your choice. DON'T tell me how to live my life.
Chances are your a plant by Bloomberg or the Obama camp PRETENDING to be a poster here.
I own acreage out in the country and I live on it. I often go through a thousand rounds of different types of ammunition when I am shooting on my own rifle and pistol ranges. Do you have a problem with that? Would you like to come on down to East Texas and discuss this with us here?
First of all, dear Mr. Bloomberg, Police, firefighters, and air traffic controllers are among the groups commonly barred from striking: usually by state and federal laws. Second, have you heard about Second Amendment? And third: only law abiding citizens will voluntarily disarm. All criminals will keep their weapons.
why are wacko's given full privacy rights but when they go out and hurt someone you demand to punish everyone else who did not do anything wrong.
This group punishment reminds me of my army days, on any given weekend the regular drunks would run out get wasted and puke all over the latrine. So instead of punishing the drunk who made the mess. They would line up 40 guys in the platoon and scream at all of us.
it was stupid then and bloomburg is stupid now.
that's not the point...
I buy ammunition in bulk. It is much cheaper. I go to the range several times a week to practice. I have a CCL, and carry everwhere it is legal, just in case something like this happens when I am around. People need to understand, police react to crimes, not prevent them. My house was broken into when I was home alone at night, and the police took 45 minutes to get there. My neighbor had a drive by shooting, and it took them over 30 min to get there. I will defend myself and my family against crime. I will keep my skills up, and by doing so, I defend myself and each citizens very freedom.
Why do you need more than one golf club in your golf bag? After all, you are just hitting a little golf ball around.
For the same reason I have many different weapons. I have a long barrel shotgun for hunting. The ammo includes slugs and buckshot for deer, #2 steel for ducks and geese, #6 through #8 for various types of small game, and #9 for skeet and practice shooting. I have a short barrel shotgun for home defense, and #4 shot is ideal for that purpose.
I have a long barrel rifle for hunting various game. When going after wild boar, it also pays to have a semiautomatic rifle handy; if you take out one pig, his or her family will come after you until you take out another dozen of them at close range.
Large caliber rifles are needed to hunt wild sheep at ranges in excess of 1000 yards. Hanguns are ideal for personal carry; the 'Judge' can fire a .410 shotgun shell making it perfect for defense against snakes, both two legged kind and the no-legged kind. And the .22 rifle is perfect for teaching the little ones how to shoot.
To remain proficient in these weapons takes hundreds of rounds of ammunition. When I take my family with me to shoot outdoors or at the range we can easily blow through over a thousand rounds of various ammo in a day. Having 6000 rounds of ammo laying around is not wacko. It's practical. People who don't understand this make spectacles of themselves all the time mouthing off over something they are ignorant of.
Why would anyone need 6,000 rds of ammo? Hmmm, lets see, the government has BILLIONS of rds of ammo. You think governments are benign? Governments murdered MORE THAN 120,000,000 people in the 20th Century! Or are you just so ignorant of history...RECENT HISTORY!
The main point to this argument is, who the hell are any of you to tell me or anyone else what we can or cannot buy in bulk or buy period. For a mayor of one of the largest cities in this country to make such comments on nationally broadcasted television is beyond logic, absurd and straight up irresponsible. That tird is stealing the freedom and liberties of those new yorkers right from under their noses, he is a globalist slob. Keep your bad ideas for NewYuck City and until the rest of us vote you in somewhere different, go to hell!!
Actually, Nanny-man....the criminal wore a bullet proof vest. More armed citizens protect themselves from criminals than do police officers.
James: It is wrong to apply a *needs test* to any of our rights. Why do you NEED to speak freely? Why do you NEED to be secure unreasonable search and seizure? Why do you NEED to keep and bear arms?
If we have to demonstrate a NEED before we can exercise a right, it is no longer a right. Why is this so difficult to understand?
Hey Paul, do I need to remind you that Hitler outlawed the owenership of guns by Jews in 1937; he didn't start murdering them until he first DISARMED THEM!
@Vincent Joy
Careful... you' confuse these histroy challenged young people wih facts.... 🙂
What an Idiot.
I having thousands of rounds for the same reason as a home alarm system, peace of mind. I am sure most of those rounds won't even see the light of day (at least I hope they don't) but they are there just in case. Paronoid? Maybe, but tyranny is a funny thing, never know when it will rear its ugly head. And if things do go to hell in a hand basket I promise not to use my weapons to protect anyone that objects to me having too many rounds, certainly don't want to offend anyone or compromise their values.
@James...why does a single person need an SUV–maybe we should restrict ownership of vehicles based on car size...why does anyone need a 3,000 sq ft house for a family of 4? Maybe we should limit house size to 400 square feet per occupant–I mean, that is PLENTY. Tell me, James, do you have ANYTHING that you don't NEED?
Meant for Paul, not James...so, effective immediately, single people can ONLY have sub-compact sedan. Married couples the same. Once you have a child, you can have a mid-size sedan...2 kids, a full size. In order to purchase a mini-van or SUV, you MUST have at least 4 children (after all, 3 can fit in back seat of full size car). And don't give me the crap about pullng your boat, you don't NEED a boat!!!!!
It has been proven, without shadow of a doubt that a city where everyone owns guns by law has much less violent crime than one where guns are banned. Proven. in 1982 Kennesaw GA, one of the periphery cities of Atlanta and most populous city in that county enacted a law where every head of household is required to have a gun and ammo in his or her possession. Since then they have had 4 or 5 murders, one in 2007 and I dont remember the details but I think the guy shouldnt have had a gun anyway. The others took place on school grounds in I think 2010 where no one was allowed to be armed. Chicago where guns are banned, the crime rate speaks for itself. Guns deter crime and save lives. Proven and done, there is no arguing the facts.
I say right on. Obama should put the slap down on these over-buyers of ammonition. How would any of you so-call 2nd amendment tea party repubicans like it to have 5,000 bullets (or more) flying over your building????
All mayor Blloomberg is trying to say is STOP THE VIOLENCE against our people. Cops and all other forms of government protection to you AND ME are in dangerous times every day, every SINGLE day!
You tellyour police how many bullets you want and have it to be approved BEFORE you are able to purchase. No more of this, I'm gonna get on line to order me some bullets day.
Keep the guns but keep track of how many of the bullets for EACH gun there is. Mayor and police needs list of EACH gunowner WITH a list of how many bullets he have for EACH gun. Not any trouble at all to do that then we and all of the police will be safer than ever before (please).
@ James
I have bought at least 4 k rounds if you own a semi auto gun no matter what make you use a lot of ammo at the range.
I own 3 hand guns and two semi's and AR-15 and a mini ruger M-1. like I said before I don't have a 100 rnd clip, but I dohave 30 rnd clips and yes when you go out to the range you use a lot of ammo at one time.
Mayor bloomberg is an a$$ Hat for telling cops to go on strike good let them I'll police my own street bet their will be less crime.
what about dangerous criminals? will they be required to provide an inventory of their weapons and bullets? oh they wont? because they never bought the guns or ammo legally in the first place? Well at least everyone who wont be using their guns and ammo for criminal activity will be acccounted for, all those records keeping track of honest hardworking people will do alot of good dont you think?
Markell, taking an account of law abiding citizens and their weapons will not stop crime, also criminals will no confrom to an inventory, imagine police going to the ghetto with loud speaker and saying "alright everyone with your illegal firearms come out and have them registered, we'll also need to know how much ammo you have for your illegal firearms" no criminal will register, and no law abiding citizen should have to register, not smart markell, not smart.
Uhhh... No. Just no. Holy mother of an unspecified Deity are you serious? I can't even begin to process the crazy here. (ad hominem yes. couldn't resist really). I'm gonna make this simple for you. Tombstone 1881=Guns restricted within city limits. Quite a bit of crime and shootings. Chicago 2012=Guns restricted within city limits. Quite a bit of crime and shootings. We lose more people there (Chicago) every year than we do in combat in any single country we operate with military forces in right now.
Gun=Airbag. Hope you don't need it, love to have it if you do. Goes with you everywhere. The more good people have guns the better. If more bad people than good people have guns=no freakin' bùeno. 10000 rounds now is cheaper than 100 rounds over a span of time in varying frequencies. Right now it's legal. Deal with it. You're just mad that we have more fun than you do. Also patch things up with your mother she loves you and I'm sure she wants you to return from madness.
Doctors:
(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is
700,000.
(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are
120,000.
(C) Accidental deaths per physician is
0.171.
Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of
Health Human Services.
Now think about this . . . .
Guns:
(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is
80,000,000.
(Yes, that's 80 million..)
(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is
1,500.
(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is
.000188.
Statistics courtesy of FBI
So, statistically, doctors are approximately
9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.
2nd ammendment was not written so we could have guns to go duck hunting. It was written so we could protect ourselves against a tyrannical government. Notice, its always the politicians who think they know whats best for us. Wierd.
6,000 rounds isn't that much ammunition. At the typical handgun training course, you will be required to bring 200 rounds just to satisfy the firing portion of the training. It is unwise to opine from a position of absolute and utter ignorance.
When the time comes, how many rounds does it take to defeat tyranny ? You miss the point.
I need 6,000 rounds that's who. I own an AR-15 like the one used in the killings, I also love going to the range and shooting for fun, you don't just take 50, 100, rounds you'd be don in 5 minutes. I take 1,000 to 2,000 rounds at a time.
I don't own a 100 rd clip like the killer used, but I do have a bunch of 30rnd clips.
I am so tired of you anti gun people grow a set of ball go out buy a small hand gun and get out learn to use it to protect your home and yourself, then depending on where you live get a carry permit.
Leave me and my 2nd amendment rights alone.
You know a pick up truck 3 days ago crashed with 22 people in it coming over the mexican border killed 12 of them in one shot. I say lets have stronger pick up truck laws this one pick up truck killed as many as the shooting in Colo., but don't worry your tax payer dollars will pay for their medical treatment even though they are illegal.
In a free and respectful society we do not question why our neighbor feels the need to buy legal items in what ever number. It is simply none of our business. It is only in totalitarian society that we start to demand that people justify their lives to us.
MILLER: Gun ownership up, crime down
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/18/gun-ownership-up-crime-down
The sane and rational person who needs 6000 rounds is the one who sees our country turning into a fascist state where tyranny rules. One can only hope and pray we never need them!
Depending on the caliber, one box may contain 100 or 200 rounds. What does 600 rounds have to do with it? IF the idiot had owned 400 rounds would we see a different outcome? Maybe 300,200 etc. would make a difference it what he did? I don't think so.
when I was into shooting sports back in '95, I always had a about 5000 rounds of ammo, that because its cheaper to buy a 1000 round pack, then buying a 20 round box. and you can easily target shoot 200+ rounds at the range in a matter of hours. Either way, why are you focusing amount of ammo? How is it relevant? how is 100, 000 rounds translate into anything positive or negative? if you think there is a policy you can craft to prevent an insane man from murder you are sadly mistaken. these events are extremely rare, but they happen. I know this lack of ability to do something preventative is disturbing, but if you planning to craft a policy for the masses based on an insane murderers behavior, your logic is flawed
I do!
How about we ban red hair too, the guy was obviously insane because of red hair, the arguments you make do nothing but restrict people from having freedom. If I want to buy 6000 rounds it may have nothing to do with hunting but may have everything to do with protecting myself from an extremely corrupt government that wants to control every part of our lives. The problem with regulations like this is they only hurt the law abiding citizens and do nothing to deter crazy people and criminals.
Because we are FREE citizens and up to the point where he breaks the law it is NOBODYs business what a person does. If Bloomberg feels so strongly about disarmament, maybe the billionaire mayor should go around without body guards and police protection everywhere he goes...better, maybe the police should go on strike about protecting him. Maybe we should have a two week waiting period on espousing stupid ideas...maybe radical islamists, white supremacists, black panthers and other radical groups would die on the vine.
Paul Hoffenberg, How many rounds do you think our Govt. has? If every citizen had 6000 rounds each, then we might have a fighting chance if/when the Govt. decides to become more than the soft tyranny that it is today. That is the original intent of the 2nd Amendment, not hunting, not sport shooting, not collecting, but defense of liberty from tyranny.The founders had just fought a Revolutionary war against their Govt. Without an armed citizenry, there would never have been an America. That is why I have 6000 rounds, to protect you from the Govt. that you so blindly trust with your life and freedoms.
For the same reason the DHS bought 450,000,000 rounds of hollow point 40 cal. rounds. Which are illegal for our miltary to use. First gun control laws were inacted to keep freed slaves from having guns. Guns in the hands of civilians keep us from being enslaved.
Apparently, very few people understand the true intent of the 2nd Amendment. As a matter of fact, you will probably be labeled as a potential terror suspect, by the DHS, for even mentioning it's true intent. When did our countrymen become so trusting of their Govt.? At it's VERY BEST, Govt. is a necessary EVIL, at it's worst it is an intolerable one. Where do you think we are on this scale?
I do! This will help keep the Tyranical Idiots like Bloomburg, and our Centralized Government from taking over our lives. Do you remember exactly the charges brought against King George III in the Declaration of Independence? Maybe you should look at that first!
"Live Free or Die" is on Vermont's License plates. Live by that or you will live as follows..."In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, "Make us your slaves, but feed us.""
-Fyodor Dostoevsky's Grand Inquisitor
I completely agree, There should be a limit on the amount of violent films produced a year, there should be a limit on the number of insane people born per county, there should be a ban on congregating in a large public gatherings such as a rally or a movie theater, there is a lot of restrictions you can impose on the law abiding in order to protect from the criminally insane. Your logic is solid good sir.
If you and your two sons go to the range weekly, that's 1,200+ rounds a month. When there's a sale on baulk ammo, you buy a lot. I've bought 3,000-4,000 rounds of ammo at one time on more than one occasion. Not only am I not a threat to you, but I'm the one that will stop and help you if your vehicle is stalled somewhere in the middle of the night and you'll be glad I have a gun on me when I do.
Police are there to protect and serve. Who they protect I do not know. MY father was a policeman for 25 years and encouraged us to have and know how to use weapons. Police usually show up after the fact of a crime not before a crime occurs. They take reports, try to find the culprit and collect information on all parties. For the normal citizen, the right to protect their property and life is essential in any society. I will never elect anyone in office that feels it is necessary to disarm the population that is law abiding. Should felons have weapons? No! I believe they also believe they should not have the right to vote. Anyone who takes away another's rights should be removed from the right to hold office or vote. The issue here is respect for others rights. It is my right to bear arms and also my right to defend myself. Should it be necessary, I will do both!
Well, since you ask, your government needs 6,000 rounds of ammunition X 75,000....yes 450 MILLION ROUNDS of .40 caliber hollowpoint (not usable in combat according to the Geneva Convention). You're worried about your neighbor having 6,000 rounds but you're completely oblivious to what the people pointing guns at you (soon) saying give up your guns have in their weapons cache. Nothing like naivety.
Maybe for someone who doesn't enjoy shooting 6000 rounds is too much. I went out to the range one day with a conservative 500 rounds, and they all went downrange in about 20 minutes. I had 40 minutes left on my hour, and I wasn't about to pay range prices for ammo. Its like buying gas at a station on a major highway, always .10 cents more a gallon. Well for shooting enthusiasts, saving $5 a box when you buy in bulk really adds up.
Is it not perfectly clear what is happening here? They (the government) wants to be in total control. With our 2nd amendment gone we will be at their mercy. We have the right to bear arms, as it should be. Just because of the few that create problems, the rest of us should not have to give up our rights as Americans. History has shown that because we have the right to bear arms, other countries have not invaded us. Yes we do have military forces that are being down sized, but the civilians that are armed will make up another army that invaders will have to deal with. DON'T LOSE OUR RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.
You might... If the police go on strike!
Because if the American civilian population , heaven forbid, has to defend itself, it has the means to do so. I would hate to have to defend my family with a 20 round box. For target shooting, which is a sport by the way, it is far more economical to buy in bulk and it keeps me from running up to the store every other day.
Fact: Cops overwhelmingly disapprove of strong gun control laws.
Fact: Being a cop is nowhere near the top in dangerous occupations. They're far less likely to die in the line of duty than construction workers, roofers, NY cabbies, big city convenience store clerks, window washers, soldiers or Marines, etc.
"need" is not the issue. Do you really want the government to limit what you can buy based on someone else's definition of what you need?
Ask the police if they are willing to give up their guns first.
Well, I'll routinely go through 1,000 rounds of ammunition in a weekend at many pistol classes. Sometimes 1,500 or so. One course of fire for a PISTOL can take 4 magazines (40 rounds). For a RIFLE, 4 magazines would be 160 rounds. 10 courses of fire, that's 1,600 rounds. Do that once a month, the round count adds up. It's not uncommon for someone to order 1,000 rounds every 6 weeks or so. Remember, this guy was stockpiling for several MONTHS.
I stopped watching Piers Morgan a few months after he started. Uninformed, rude and boring. No legal firearm fires 100 rounds per minute. The amount of ammunition that would be allowed under any proposed limit I have read is far in excess of the rounds fired in any known " nut " incident. The Mayor of New York is a perfect example of great academic intelligence and absolutely no common sense. If the "nut " in Colorado couldn't have obtained guns he would have used a bomb. Look at his apartment ! What would a bomb have done in that movie theatre ? Or a fire, or gas. Or whatever. Where there's an insane will, there's always an insane way. Wake up !
Oh, BTW< armor piercing bullets ARE ALREADY ILLEGAL under Federral law. As are automatic weapons (machine guns, assault rifles, machine pistols, etc), hand grenades, grenade launchers, land mines, Claymores, and 99% of the weapons that are Military grade. Only semiautomatic weapons are legal for civilian ownership.
Armor piercing rounds are typically made from depleted uranium, the densest material we know. Teflon coated bullets, which can slide through Kevlar, are also illegal under Federal law.
So, what's he talking about? Bloomberg is a loon!
Somebody that shoots alot.
Thanks the reminder, I need to restock on my 7.62 AK rounds. I can burn through that many at the gun range, plus stock up for D day. My guns are for the last line of defense or gov. tyranny and personal protection. For that you need several thousand rounds minimum.
The second ammendment isn't for duck hunting. As an American it's your patriotic duty to keep weapons. It make our nation stronger.
Why does the Department of Homeland Security need 450 million rounds of .40 cal hollow point ammo? Why do they need million of rounds of .223s and 12 guage ammo? I shoot about 600 rounds of ammo a month to keep up on my skills. I have probably around 3500 rounds in the house. Too much for you? Well, I paid for it, not you.
Why would anyone think that criminals and insane people would honor more laws? They don't pay any attention to the ones we have now.
When they set up a Dept of needs then your stupid ideas will be heard.
That's not the question. The question is: Being that about 25% of the persons in this country will have mental "problems" in their lifetime, why are citizens not trained or equipped to recognize or respond when persons need help?
6000 is just a start for some. It is very possible to have 6000 of one type (45 auto, 9mm, and 223). The stuff is good for thirty to sixty years and never gets less expensive. Pay now shoot later, or trade for something of value later.
Forget the 2nd Amendment? I have to question your intellect and sanity at this point. Freedom is sometimes messy, but with freedom comes personal responsibility.Had there been a citizen in that theater who was armed, may have saved alot of lives oh, and guess what? Guns dont kill people, people do!
I'm sure the some of the Syrian people who never thought they needed 6,000 rounds of ammo might might disagree
I'll tell you WHY police are not EVEN going to THINK about it.. they SUPPORT Civilians rights to have a gun. I hope this BLOOMING IDIOT is voted out of office next election cycle.. the People of New York have to be EMBARASSED as H3LL for his remarks.. basically saying "The 2nd Amendment doesnt matter".. that means NONE of our rights matter.. Freakin MORON.
What's whacky beable? Or 600o? Read, think, write, proofread, post. In that order. Then, and only then, does your post have any merit. Until then it's just illiterate babble.
PS Molon labe....
We must remember, all criminals will obey the gun laws! So say the mayors of New York, Chicago and Washington DC.
Then again we must realize that this discussion is on a story appearing on the bottom of the barrel news source CNN.
Well guess you get what you pay for
I tell you what: lets take down the 10 commandments off all Government property and schools (woops- already did that), lets stop prayer in school (did that too), lets support deviant behavior (done), lets lock up parents for disiplining their kids (done), quit teaching GOD's principles and making, that's right- "making", our youth go to church (accomplished),punish the teachers for infusing right and wrong in school because anything is OK. Deep down, you know what I mean, just admit it.
He sais HORSE POWER not Miles Per Hour. Why do our biggest cires have the kookiest mayors is the real question?
Reason our biggest cities are our biggest centers of corruption.
While I don't think any sane person would ever use 6,000 rounds of ammo I also don't agree with stopping the sane from "having" how ever many you wish to have! Our boy's and husband enjoy a weekend out once in a while shooting at a range, camp or private property where it is permitted. We could never afford to buy ammo all at once so we have always just bought a little here and there! Save like you would your penny's. So yes there is times when that amount of ammo is not at all unreasonable in fact not even a large amount when you have a large family! I think we are headed in the wrong direction! In stead of mandating limits on how much ammo you can have why not offer better gun education – like we do car/driving classes! If we teach the young the right way how safe and or un safe a gun really can be from the very beginning we not only can learn a lot ourselves we teach them how to be responsible and take the bs hero thought out of there minds! Kids are sponges – if we fail to teach them they will go for entertainment and learn about every thing we fear but they will still learn it! The key is do you want them to learn how to be wise and safe and never use a gun unless it is needed or in a safe fun environment or do you want the entertainment industry to raise your kids thinking your cool and a big hero if you shoot someone?? Get over your fears and raise your kids and this conversation would not be taking place!!
I do. Who are you to tell me how many small arms I am allowed to own? Who are you to tell me how many rounds I ammo I can own. I'll tell you why I need what I own and purchased with my own money – protection from the socialist-totalitarian nitwits like you.
"Why can someone sane or whacky beable to have 50 knives. Forget debating the 2nd amendment
it's a no win situation BUT AGAIN ASKE ONE QUESTION. Who needs 50 knives."
Who in the heck are you to tell me what I want or may have? You're a typical Liberal who wants to boss rveryone else.
Only 20% of thge nation's people live in large cities.
About half the natioin's households contain firearms. You & Bloomberg think you're going to disarm us? Try again.
If the cops go on strike, who cares? We don't need them. I own a gun & can defend myself. After alI, I fought as a lieutenant in the 1st Infantry Division & later as a captain in the 101st Airborne in Viet-Nam.
Want evidence I fought? http://www.vietnamproject.ttu.edu/banshee Just check the unit roster.
Bloomberg says a national police strike will change people's minds on guns because the police will not be there to protect you. What an utter moron. The 'job' of the police is to enforce the law, not to protect you or anyone else. His solution, is to suspend the enforcement of laws in order to bring about what he considers a means to enforce the law. Great idea, Bloomie. Well, he's only a politician. What would you expect?
I shoot that much in rifle tournaments in about two weeks.
But if you have ten guns, that might be only six hundered rounds per gun. Not so much.
Ifyo uhave a .22 and buy 4 moderately priced boxes rounds, you already have 2000 rounds.
Add to that a half-dozen cases (on sale) of birdshot or target load shotgun shells (btw not suitable for home defense), and now you have another 1500 rounds.
If you have a deer rifle and then add a few cases...
Several thousand rounds of ammunition adds up very quickly.
Those who have little or no experience with firearms, make snap-judgements that may sound "reasonable" if your talking about buying marbles, or sticks of chewing-gum. But when you take couple of friends to the range with your shotgun to shoot at clays; it's very easy to go though a lot of rounds of ammunition.
Then add to the fact that you have the UNEDUCATED telling you what's approprite about something they know little or nothing, and those same UNEDUCATED people want to limit what you can buy because of SOME OTHER ISSUE, then you begin to buy a FEW EXTRA, so that when you want to take your buddies out to the range, you actually can.
Nuf said.
Bloombergy needs to get his own murder rates down before popping off about other staes issues.
NYC has WAY MORE than its share on HIS watch.
.22 rimfire is sold in bricks of 1,000. If you go to the range for a day of shooting (which obviously you never have) you'd shoot anywhere between 300 -1000 rounds.
So if you own an .380, a 9mm, a .38 Special, an M-1 Carbine and an Ar, and only have enough rounds to fire each gun a full day at the range (or all of them for 5 trips, you'd have between 1,500 & 5,000 yournds, not counting the .22, not buying in cheaper bulk, not relying on running to the store each time, not buying on sale, etc.
And that doesn't account for differences in ammo in each gun. I'm not shooting expense self defense hollow points with my 9mm at targets, and I'm not shooting Deer with varmint rounds
What difference does it make How many cartridges one has? you can only fire one at a time.
When I was a cop here in the South, I had to go on many calls with gun drawn and ready to use it. Because so many carry, I never walked into a situation expecting less; however, I always felt safer, because I knew a lot of decent citizens also carried and would help if needed - and they did! Don't fear the people.
the criminal fed just bought 500,000,000 rounds of .40 caliber to use against American citizens. We ALL need 6000 rounds of ammo.... Idiot.
The guy loves to target practice and found a bargain on bulk ammo,
the guy owns a LEGAL class 3 machine gun and loves to shoot.
Or he's scared to death idiots like Bloomers might be taken seriously.
Or maybe since we have 2nd Amd. it's nobodys business.... Mr. Himmler
when the bad folks are disarmed, only then can you have a discussion.
Imagine a country where good citizens give up the right to own a gun and only the bad, the govt and police are armed.
No thank you
@ pappy
Very good post Sir.
Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA – ordinary citizens don't need guns,
as their having guns doesn't serve the State. "Heinrich Himmler"
For you history challenged young people .... Himmler was a Nazi
When I take family and friends shooting, we can go through roughly 300-800 rounds. So 6000 rounds would be enough for 6 or 7 excursions. Sounds like a lot, but really isn't. Ammo prices fluctuate too, best to buy cheap. I am not into it as much so don't have much on hand(about 50 rounds). However buying in bulk once a year, is usually the cheapest way to go.
I have my concealed permit,the course was taught by a Police Instructor. His view was the Police want law abiding citizens to be armed it helps them do their job. As he put it the Police maybe 5 minutes away but you are there already. I do a lot of sport target shooting I buy ammo in bulk.
Someone like me who believes this country is going to have a revolution before I leave this earth and I want to be ready or as ready as I can be. I would also like to say that I know a police chief and he's very happy that citizens have guns and maybe the mayor should walk into a home where a criminal is armed and the mayor has to disarm him. If the home owner had a gun the chances are by the time police arrived it would be all over. This mayor has NO COMMON SENCE!!!!!
Excellent James! Though allergic to drink, it would be a kick for the anti 2nd Amendment types to be limited to a six pack or a few ounces of the hard stuff. Not that I'd advocate such infringements, but it would make for interesting conversation. The shoes restriction is also quite funny and would work for me.
My wife and I shoot a 22 rifle. I buy a box of 555 cartriges every once in a while as prices don't go down and if I have 6 boxes I have over 3000 right there. If you want to trap shoot you could easly have another couple cases of shells for another thousand rounds. I can easily see MANY people who shoot haveing thousands of rounds and not killing anyone.
I realize you feel like you want to do something to stop such horrible things from happening. But going after guns and ammo is misguided.
In a free country, It's not for us to decide how much money Bloomberg needs for his lifestyle, nor how many shoes Oprah should own.
As a mayor, one would expect greater maturity in his speech than to call for police to steal taxpayer's funds by refusing to provide the services for which they are being paid. If the mayor approves of theft of public funds in that manner, it is past time for a new mayor.
Some say that N.Y. law would make his statement a criminal offense, and if so, the attorney general should have a look at the evidence. I think Bloomburg belongs in court for his official disregard of the 2nd Amendment rights of the citizens of New York.
Um...let's see...maybe a Syrian citizen trying to overthrow a brutal dictator? Maybe an American citizen in order to make the government fear the citizenry so that a Syrian situation never arise? The 2nd Amendment isn't for hunting and sports, dummies. It has a much higher well thought through purpose. The police knew when they put on their uniforms what was ahead of them. Bloomberg is a very sick man! And besides being a socialist, he appears to be an anarchist..
They need to hold a mayors against illegal Mexicans they kill more people than legal gun owners
You need that many rounds when an armed flash mob attacks your neighborhood.
Cars KILL more people in a day 50,000 people EVERYDAY WE NEED TO BAN CARS – BTW balming guns is like blaming forks for the reason their are fat people – BAN FORKS!
Why do we trust our cops to have guns. Does sending them to class for a couple of weeks and slapping a badge on them magically make them a bastion of moral virtue?
"At least 100 people were killed earlier this month in a Syrian village called Tremseh."
I know of 100 people who wished they each had 4 guns and 6000 rounds.
Does he also want his OWN police security detail to go on strike? BTW, has anyone seen the kind of food and drink served at his fundraisers in NYC? No limits on salt and trans fat and soda there...
I know, people hate the bare mention of the proverbial "slippery slope" but, hey why not. So, you don't like the 2nd amendment? Well, I think people should go to jail for lying and maliciously misrepresenting facts or criticizing me. But it does not happen.How about the 14th amendment? I am of the opinion that you MUST be fluent in the language, history and aware of the political system of the country to become a citizen, but that is not the case. Further, I believe that if you are not a citizens those rights (before mentioned) and all others codified should not apply to you since the Founders clearly were referring to the citizenry of the nation! Guess, I do not get to modify, qualify or exclude certain rights based on my particular political bend. The act of mad man should not be a defining moment in our nation's history. And before anyone gets on a high horse about my diatribe, I am black, Hispanic and an immigrant that came, learned the language, became versed in the culture and politics of the nation and became a citizen. The beauty of it all is that the same is available to everyone.
My condolences to the family and friends of those who were killed and best wishes to the injured for a full and swift recovery.
If you read the second amendment closely:
'A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.'
It isn't only about the people's right to keep and bear arms but to make sure the militia doesn't become a military arm of a dictatorial government used to intimidate, dominate, and abuse & destroy the people.
If the people are defenseless then events like what happened in Rwanda, Cambodia, and today in Mexico will most assuredly happen in the United States.
The people are the backup for the militia; which are a backup for the national guard; which are a backup for the military; and if the people don't have access to equivalent weapons, maybe not fully automatic, but bullet size and ammunition magazine capacity only invites military expansion by other countries and criminal expansion in our own country.
The data shows that where states have implemented conceal carry laws the crime rate has declined considerably and lives have been saved, such as recently the incident at the internet cafe in Florida.
http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp
You are correct, sir
You are correct, sir
http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp
So are you gonna outlaw automobiles the next time somebody causes a 10 car pileup?
We have laws against gun misuse. The law was broken. Do you think outlawing guns will render them unavailable to crooks? And if the cops go on strike...that's also against the law. C'mon Bloomberg...stick to getting the rats out of NY!
Paul do you not think that the next wacko will probably just run over the bystanders at their next movie or event ? And for some of us who are old enough and know past history is now coming forth to repeat itself that if still alive 6000 rounds wont be enough. If the politicians of today " not all" like Bloomberg and Palosi and O'bama can get a loop whole for gun and ammunition control we will have anarchy in the streets of America. trust me when most of the baby boomers have moved on and the newer generation arises to power themselves Anarchy will happen because they let their guard down through the emotion of past and coming disasters from wackos who dont know how to comtrol their own emotions because the american dream ain't happening for them and alot others as well. What the government was dissapointed about this year was the street protesters this past year didnt get violent enough because when they finally do all the citizens will want the government to quell the violence and martial law is coming and then the attempt to confiscate your protection. Its History !
Let's face reality – every person has the power to kill at least one person no matter what laws are enacted. Outlawing bulk ammo purchases merely places you at a greater disadvantage when the government comes around to kill you. And governments eventually do kill their own citizens as we have seen with Pol Pot in Cambodia, Mao in China, Stalin in Russia, Hitler in Germany, etc. Try an internet search of "Operation Gladio", "Operation Northwoods", Operation Mockingbird", to see what is being done to us.
How many examples of government murder does it take to get the message to people that they need to be armed for their own protection? Governments have killed over 270 MILLION PEOPLE in the last 100 years.
Bush had the power to kill Iraq and he did so, but none of you questioned whether the Pentagon bought too much ammo.
Obama has the power to kill entire nations yet none of you complained when our arms shipments murdered Khadaffi and destroyed Libya.
Where were all of you when 83 American citizens were killed by US military attack at Waco, Texas; when women and children were tortured at Abu Graib? When innocent wedding parties are murdered in Pakistan by drone attacks? Do you think the Batman shooter is working alone?
Did any of you bother to read about how the State Department admitted that the "Underwear Bomber" had official US government help in boarding the airline? Did you read about the CIA connection to the "Mumbai Massacre"? About the MK Ultra connection to the "Unibomber"?
Do you even know anything about what your government is doing?
You had me until the last 3 paragraphs. Take the aluminum foil off your head, put down the bong and get some help.
John sounds crazy but he's right. We can't have it both ways. If we as a human race don't all lay down our arms at once, then all the laws and restrictions are meaningless. Even if we banned guns completely in this country, they'll still be here, they're not going anywhere.
Let's start by not giving Mexican drug cartels 200 automatic weapons.
You don't have to be a mainstream media moron if you decide to research the official record in a Congressional inquiry and read that testimony yourself if you want to remove all doubt that our government deliberately helped the Underwear Bomber board the plane.
Try, "State Department admits Underwear Bomber was deliberately assisted to board plane"
And yes, there is an MK Ultra connection to the Unibomber – he was in the program. Look it up if you want to know more.
Of course, some don't want to know more.
Do you want to know more? Why not do something about it?
Many gun enthusiasts just like to shoot their guns for sport. It's not uncommon for someone to shoot over a 1000 rounds of ammo in one session at the range. Please realize that 99% of all guns fired are fired at paper targets.
"The only reason to have an armor-piercing bullet is to go through a bullet-resistant vest. The only people that wear bullet-resistant vests are our police officers."
James Holmes had a bullet resistant vest
Can I just have 4000 rounds of ammo?
We also have drug laws/control but seems like drugs are one of the biggest problems we have in America and are easily accessible to people who want them, which by making laws those people are now criminals.
paul, you spend all day everyday worrying about things that are none of your business and being all upset, right?
None of your business.
If you think that restricting ammo sales would have stopped this then you are even more delusional and ignorant than the average lefturd
Paul you are missing the point. Better to ask the question, "Who needs an oppressive government that forbids firearms?" The answer is anyone who wishes to support a dictatorship. Dictators decieve their way into power and once there maintain their power in part by disarming the public. Do you really think the people of Libya, Syria or Iran would (have) put up with the brutal oppression of their governments if they, the people were well armed? Indeed, would those governments even dare to even think about oppressing a well armed populous?
The second ammendment was written to assure the American people their right to bear arms in protection from tyranny, not to turkey hunt.
As far as the terrible incident in Colorado is concerned, if concealed carry was permitted, the guy probably would have been shot after his first few rounds. Come to any public avent here in Ohio where concealed carry is allowed and you have no idea how many women are "packin' in their purses." This preditor chose a target area where he knew the population had been neutered of their ability to protect themselves by the local laws.
Why does the TSA need 450 million rounds of 40 cal hollowpoints that are illegal to use in wars?
forget the ammo question but try this:
How is it that ANYONE would be so screwed up as to massacre people? What has gone wrong where this is becoming more and more of a problem? This lunatic would have used NYTHING at his disposal if he had not been able to get firearms an ammunition-to say othing of KEVLAR!
Good God, you have people today that think the violence and gore they see in the movies is a guide to real life..the same with these so called video games. Anyone want to think that isn't screwing up people?
If you want to look at firearms, fine-but all had best look at the violence that we see for "entertainment" as well
Go home Piles, we eviscerate socialist red coats. Your kind aren't wanted. (and your ratings prove it)
2A is there so the people have the last say is throwing off the oppressive nanny state globalist socialist government that Piles and Loonberg want crammed up their butts.
Bloomberg is an idiot. Even Super-Dem Frankilin Roosevelt said that public sector unions should not have the right to strike. We do not pay them to express the politica views of their bosses......
Here's a better idea. I think all of us who work and pay taxes should go on strike until the governments (local, state and federal), get their priorities straight and get spending under control and stop eroding our rights and liberties in the name of fairness. After all, the largess of any government is only possible due to the taxes paid by the people. The government doesn't generate revenues, it confiscates income. It exists because we allow it to exist. Enough with political elites telling us what is best for us. Back off and back down or we go on strike.
Paul, it's none of your damn business what anyone owns. You sound exactly like the megalomaniac, totalitarian, Marxist control freaks in the White House, and I'm sure you worship them.
6000 rounds of ammo is nothing. On any given day when I go shoot, I shoot a few hundred rounds. I can go thru 1000 rounds in 2 weeks EASY. I love shooting and practice to be better at it. Its easier and more cost efficient to buy in bulk just like anything you buy at SAMS or COSTCO! Stop associating a crazy guy with an average shooter.
Making something illegal...say...assault guns...DOES NOT REMOVE THE EXISTENCE of such guns...it only makes them illegal. A reasonable correlations is to the 18th Amendment did NOT remove the existence of booze in America...it only made it ILLEGAL to have...and of great pecuniary importance (and also MUCH MORE ALLURING!) When folks in 1933 realized this simple truth...the 21st Amendment was introduced and passed...negating the 18th. ILLEGALITY NEVER RESULTS IN REMOVAL! Interestingly...in the case of guns...the ratio of those who have guns/those who have no guns...exponentially increases. Those who have the ILLEGAL guns will obtain more...and the FORCE MULTIPLIER EFFECT results. This is precisely what occurred in the Colorado Aurora Century Theater, which did NOT permit guns in the auditorium. Making it ILLEGAL for guns to be in the auditorium had nothing directly to do with such devices being in there. It only meant that the folks who selected to obey the no-gun law would have no guns for their protection...THAT IS ALL. This "no-guns law" does NOT physically apply to those who select to live outside such laws...as folks inside Century Theater sadly discovered. Oh..and concerning spefically Holmes: As in the case with Lee Harvey Oswald, James Holmes (if that is real name) is a CIA-FBI DIVERSION. TWO men are involved, neither of which were observed to have red hair. One man opened the exit door; the other entered...BOTH STARTED SHOOTING...NEITHER were apprehended. Certainly one is still at large. Both probably headed back to Buckley AFB less than two miles behind the theater. Eric Holder and Soetoro-Obama have the current UN gun control mandate and Second Amendment implementation and reduction respectively to implement. The perpetrators and murders remain at large.
Making something illegal...say...assault guns...DOES NOT REMOVE THE EXISTENCE of such guns...it only makes them illegal. A reasonable correlation is to the 18th Amendment which did NOT remove the existence of booze in America...it only made it ILLEGAL to have in one's possession...and of great pecuniary importance (and also MUCH MORE ALLURING!) When folks in 1933 realized this simple truth...the 21st Amendment was introduced and passed...negating the 18th. ILLEGALITY NEVER RESULTS IN REMOVAL! Interestingly...in the case of guns...the ratio of those who have guns/those who have no guns...exponentially increases. Those who have the ILLEGAL guns will obtain more...and the FORCE MULTIPLIER EFFECT results. This is precisely what occurred in the Colorado Aurora Century Theater, which did NOT permit guns in the auditorium. Making it ILLEGAL for guns to be in the auditorium had nothing directly to do with such devices being in there. It only meant that the folks who selected to obey the "no-guns" law would have no guns for their protection...THAT IS ALL. This "no-guns" law does NOT physically apply to those who select to live outside such laws...as folks inside Century Theater sadly discovered. Oh..and concerning James Holmes: As in the case with CIA-paid Lee Harvey Oswald, James Holmes (if that is real name) is another CIA-FBI DIVERSION. TWO men were involved, neither of which were observed to have red hair. One man opened the exit door; the other entered...BOTH STARTED SHOOTING...NEITHER were proven apprehended. Certainly at least one is still at large. In fact BOTH probably headed back to Buckley AFB less than two miles behind the theater. US Attorney General Eric Holder and Soetoro-Obama support the UN gun control mandate and Second Amendment implementation and reduction respectively. The perpetrators and murders remain at large...INCLUDING HOLDER AND OBAMA.
I am a cop. Bloomberg is a fool. An abject idiot!
I will never strike. Citizens should have guns. I encourage ALL of the people I counsel after they're victimized by violence to acquire whatever skills, tools or tactics they need to NEVER become a victim again.
For some, its fortifying their apartments and homes, for others it's planning your shopping trips and only taking the money you need to make purchases that day. Many women take every single credit card they were ever issued with them.
Others want a gun. I tell them to go for it. Take a safety class and practice often to get comfortable and build muscle memory and hand strength.
Did I mention that Bloomberg is an idiot?
An idiot who is well beyond the expiration date.
i have read many of these comments and i really had a good laugh, why? because have we got to the point that we are so controlling that we have to justify our possessions, why do i have this many cars, or what ever! how about it's none of anyone's business!, look "shall not be infringed" was not or ever will be just a suggestion!!! Period!!! end of story!!! if i want to buy up every kind of one item no matter what that item is. it is my right to do so and no nobody's business to tell me otherwise. my dad retired from law enforcement, and let me tell you what we know from experience, if you can defend yourself, alarm, personal weapon, what ever, it's an obstacle that creates a problem, if your an easy mark no protection your chances are far higher of something happening, guns are like airbags and seat-belts, you never need one til it saves your life.
You really haven't been paying attention. How is 6000 rounds of ammo more dangerous than 60 rounds? How is having more ammunition than one can ever carry more dangerous than a single box?
The shooter in the Colorado theater killed 12 people. That can be done with a SINGLE BOX of ammo.
Your plan to limit ammunition amounts will not make you any safer, but it will limit the rights of legitimate citizens that want to have years worth of ammunition on hand.
You accomplish nothing, but infringe on the rights of innocent citizens.
Why is DHS buying 450 million round of hollow points (used for defense, not target practice)? http://www.theblaze.com/stories/why-is-homeland-security-buying-450-million-rounds-of-hollow-point-bullets/
You are presupposing that you are 'average'.
Where do you shoot at? How often?
I burn through a thru 1,000 rounds in 1 day on a weekend trip to the range.
Like many other products, ammo retailers offer very nice incentives to purchase in bulk.
I often purchase 25,000 rounds of various ammo at gun shows.
Usually reduces my cost to half.
I bought 250 rounds for my rifle becasue it is cheaper in bulk. I also bought in bulk because i know the Soros supported organizations are doing everything they can, with lots of his money, to ban all weapons and ammunition, just like they did in Australia. When asked about those owners, like me, who enjoy sport shooting, at targets, Soros' field commander Rebecca Peters, said. Let them pick another sport. She has been set up as the ultimate decider on who, in the entire world, should have the right to own weapons ( in her opinion, no private cirizen) There are many gun banners who believe there should be no arms whatsoever, even for hunting and self defense.
I am a former Marine who knows how to use the rifle. I belong to a club where I shoot that has very stringent safety rules and mandatory and ongoing safety instruction. The greatest majority of owners are careful, law abiding and conscientious people who will never do harm to anyone else. And by the way, Mr. President, contrary to your insinuation today, the Colorado shooter did not have an AK-47.
Who needs 6000 rounds of ammunition? Everyone. The government has a lot more than that; And better weapons. The second amendment is not to guarantee your safety from other citizens, it's protection from the government.
I buy ammo online and in bulk. The prices are MUCH cheaper. If you're involved in the shooting sports it makes sense to buy it this way. Personally, I don't understand why people are focusing on this. This nut case was obviously insane and that's revealed by this behavior as well. He planned to go to a movie and shoot people. I don't think it's been released as yet, but it's a very safe bet he didn't fired over 200 rounds. So 5,800 rounds or more are sitting in his apartment. Do you think there is ANY scenario on earth where he could have fired 6,000 rounds in anger before the police got involved? It would take the better part of two days just reloading the magazines and firing them.
As others have noted, it's nice to take advantage of sales and stock up. It also de-links the expense of shooting with the enjoyment. I cry once when I order a couple thousand rounds of ammo, but it's all fun when I get to going to the range and shoot it. A lot more fun than paying $50-100 bucks at the range for what you plan to shoot that session.
And to you gun control advocates. I respect your views and have no problem debating the issue. What does irritate me is most of you don't have a clue what you're talking about and after each crisis we have to listen to your stupid, factlessly based agruements. This ammo situation is a perfect case in point. You're so clueless, you just discovered ammo is available through the mail– like it has been for decades. So if this nut had just bought the ammo he'd require to committ this heinous crime at a local gun shop you'd still be cluless about internet ammo sales you now deem to be some major problem. By the way, you DO NEED A FIREARM to discharge ammo. Nothing inherently dangerous about it.
Anyone who can afford to buy it. Point he did not shoot 6,000 rounds in that theater, he probably bought it with federal grant (read our tax) mone. Freedom has a price, some pay a little, some none, some All.
The real problem with any discussion on gun control is anti-gun zealots lack perspective on the topic. They have never bought a gun or ammunition and, at absolute best, have only fired one once or twice. The truth of the matter is they're horribly uninformed about very basic purchasing and using practices. Most of what they spout off tends to be urban myth. The worst part of this conversation is those who are horribly uninformed have absolutely no interest in becoming informed.
Contrary to what Paul Hoffenberg seems to believe, 6000 rounds is not a tremendous amount of ammunition and if he ever decides to stock up for the zombie apocalypse he'll want to buy a good deal more than that.
YEs...I agree...PLEASE STRIKE....then maybe...just maybe...the citizens will wake up and do their duty......start arresting the real criminals.......
Someone might purchase 6000 bullets, if that person wants to say: be able to fight back, if this country is ever invaded; protect their family; not rely on the police and the military, who are overworked and underfunded, to defend them against people that wish to do harm. I say this is a personal freedom situation. Outlawing any weaponry has only insured one thing: Our planes get destroyed into our buildings, Our people die, and those that want to protect themselves do not have the supplies to do, but the people on the other side of the law do. I am not saying that everyone should own a gun. I am not saying that I have 6000 bullets. What I am saying is that Canada and the UK have very strict anti-gun laws and both of those countries have hundreds of casualties related to those shootings each year.
How many of those 6000 rounds were used? In any event, it would have taken only 1 round to eliminate his access to 6000 rounds. Apparently no one there had 1 to counter his 6000.
Americans need 6000 rounds to keep the government from becoming what it apparently is becoming: totalitarian. The founders knew that eventually the government would become oppressive to the point of violence against its citizens. Why else does the Federal government have concentration camps in the USA sufficient to house 3 million people? Why are they empty at this point? Can you answer that question?
THE CRIMINAL ELEMENTS WILL LOVE TO SEE ALL CITIZENS DISARMED.
DOOMBERG IS AN OBAMA JOCKSTRAP SUCKER.....
Why does someone need more than a smart car? Why does someone need more than a small fry? Why I ask, does someone need more than 1 knife? My point is, this is a free country. If I want 120,000 rounds of ammo, then so be it. I'm not going to hurt anyone. If someone is nuts enough to pull a stunt like this, they will find a way. They don't need guns, they don't need ammo either. Nor do they need gun powder. Hell, just steal a truck and plow into a group of people walking down the street or into a strip mall. Now we have to limit the size, power and speed of vehicles. Where will it end? Quit the BS left wing teachings of this country where everyone is special and go back to some discipline and teach humility. Then we might stand a chance.
In the last few years there were reports of people driving autos into pedestrians, so let's limit the speed of the autos to 3 MPH, with a sonar device that sounds a loud HORN if people sized objects come with 50 feet of the auto.
Because the homeland security had ordered Half a BILLION ROUNDS OF HOLLOW POINT BULLETS
"who needs to buy 6000 rounds?"
Anyone who doesn't like some snot-nosed pipsqueak telling them what they do and don't need.
Mind your own business, child.
What an idiotic statement, yes...let's have the Police go on strike till we give up our guns, in the mean time the bad guys are running free across the Country.
Bloomberg your a old Lefty fool, without a grasp of reality.
who needs 6000 rounds ? homeland security and a revolution.
how about we have a tax strike til politicians are audited and imprissioned.
Who needs more than two hours a day on the computer or a car that drive more than 2 miles a day I mean seriously, Who needs 24 hour a day availability to the net? Who needs to drive more than 2 miles to the store? For that matter who need access to more than on movie or television show per week. With less access to violent movies, this shooter would not have cracked. With less access to the internet, this shooter would have had a tougher time finding and ordering the ammunition and body armor. With a care that could not drive over 2 miles from his house this shooter could not have moved his weapons to the theater unnoticed. Maybe we should consider banning Cars, violent movies, and unlimited internet access.
Some years back Meth became a huge problem. The so-clled powers that be decided we could all solve the problem easily by puting the over-the-counter medications used to make meth behind the pharmacy counter and limit how much a person can buy. All that managed to do is inconvience the inocent people that have cold and flu symptoms. It didn't slop or even slow down the production of meth, did it? Laws and limitations have no affect on criminal intent. If a law-abiding citizen with a concealed weapon had been in that theater in CO fewer people may have died. That is of course the citizen were a calm and well-praticed shot. Don't limit his or her ability with limits on ammo.
It is not for you or anyone else to ask why you "need" something that you have a right to own. I don't need to explain why I "need" a gun or ammo or stock pile food or anything else I have a right to do. Who are you to judge what others need based on your political views? I hope the cops stand down though, then all you democrat whiners will realize that without firearms you will be helpless against the criminals in this country. Cities with high gun ownership will have the least amount of crime while the cities, like chicago and new york, will burn to the ground because all the people will panic and cry for the police to save them while the criminals have their way with them.
I do, because lemmings like you force me to stockpile in preparation for the day that citizens will not be allowed to protect themselves.
Well said.
I am calling for an immediate ban on fully automatic vehicles. Why does a civilian need a full auto transmission? They absolutely do not. For the police it is one thing, they need the other hand to text or talk on the the radio or hold the Doughnut . More civilians in this country are killed every year by a full auto vehicle than all the people murdered by semi automatic rifles in the history of our country. Millions of innocent animals are slaughtered every year by people driving full autos. I say ban them and confiscate the ones that are already in circulation. After all they are registered. The government knows where to find them.
If you ban the purchase of 6,000 rounds at a time, then if someone wants to, he can buy the largest amount allowed and save up, or he can have his friends buy it for him.
I suppose if you're going to limit buyers to one round per week, then your approach may work.
I do.
Some of these comments about the amount of ammo one has are obviously from people who have never been within 100 feet of guns. As a RESPONSIBLE gun owner who also by the way had an uncle who was a Salt Lake City Police officer and have friends in the Seattle Police, I can say that argument is totally missing the point. I shoot mostly as a hobby using long guns, rifles, etc. and own a SINGLE handgun I use as protection. As a hobby I target shoot at a minimum of twice a month. I shoot at a gun range and take serious the safety of others when taking part in my hobby. At each target session I shoot 50-100 rounds in my handgun. I shoot at clay pigeons with a shotgun for which I purchase many boxes of shells 50-100 at a time, more if my wife is going to also shoot. Shooting is a Legitimate sport which is even included in the Olympics. People who claim to be so smart miss the common thread in all violence. The common thread is not the weapon used, its PEOPLE; EVIL HUMANS intent on causing harm. In 1994 an estimated 800,000 Tutsi in Rwanda were murdered, the murder weapon of choice? MACHETE, cheaper than the cost of a bullet, purchased from China. Victims actually had to PAY their killers to be killed with a gun. If all you on the Left are truly horrified by violence in the world, look to the common thread and stop using gun tragedy to push a political agenda against guns.
For those on the left who feel compeled to contradict my example of the 800,000 killed in Rwanda by machete one on the LEFT might say “But that was lots of people doing the killing, the Batman shooting was one person, killing many because of a gun” I’m sure the parents of the EIGHT Chinese school children stabbed to death by a doctor at school in 2010 would disagree.
Citizens are armed and able to protect themselves. Subjects are disarmed and rely those in charge to protect them. Police are rarely on the scene to prevent crime. Citizens are everywhere. Police can not be held legally responsible for failure to prevent a crime. Armed citizens prevent over 4 million crimes a year (source NRA.org). Every man over the age of eighteen is part of the Militia as defined by US code. If called up each member is expected to provide their own weapon for battle. If I were called into battle to defend my homeland I would want an assault weapon and at least 6000 rounds... not some pea shooter with a couple of bullets. We are the guardians of our liberty and government. Living as a citizen in a free state requires responsibility. Let's not lose our liberty to ignorance and irresponsibility.
A target shooter. For a target shooter to have 600 or more rounds of ammo is not unusual. When I shot in tournaments on a regular basis, I use to have in excess of 1000 rounds of ammo. [American Skeet Shooting]
So true about large amount of ammo not being uncommon. When I first married my wife she was scared of guns. Now she shoot skeet as well and has her won carry weapon after attending a very good safety course here in Washington State.
I need 60000 rounds of ammo per caliber.
If there had been 1 concealed handgun carry person in the theater at least more than 1/2 of those killed would be alive. New York has the strongest handgun laws in the nation and the thugs still get them, but their not afraid of the common citizen whose not armed. It's illegal to own a gun in Mexico and they get in from all over the world not just U.S.
If you shoot a lot, you' can easily go through that much ammunition in several weekends. Often it's cheaper to buy bulk since there is usually a volume discount. 6000 rounds is just not all that much.
People get fixated on the 6,000 rounds. Why? The shooter didn't use but maybe 200. So that is a false argument. The extra amount did not and does not ever cause an increase threat.
You will one day when the government comes for your guns.
I have over 6000 rounds of ammunition and I need it for peace of mind ... but why I need it is irrelevant, in this country the question should be what reason the government has to restrict it. ...do you think a law restricting bulk ammunition purchases would have stopped the idiot in Aurora? How many rounds did he actually fire? Rather than just asking an ignorant question like "who needs 6000 rounds anyway" why don't you think through the options and the implications of them.
Some people have lots of ammo because they like to practice and you need bullets to practice. Some people started hoarding ammo after Obama was elected, others because they think the world is coming to an end soon and to fend off the looters and thugs that will try rob and kill you. (i.e. new orleans after Katrina)
Anyone who does a lot of target shooting but does not load their own ammo buys in bulk whenever possible. It's cheaper that way.
DUH!
Really? This moron should stick to controlling 16 ounce sodas. Has he asked Obama for permission to speak about this subject? Because... you know that millionaire businessmen like Bloomberg didn't do ANYTHING on their own, he was taught to speak by someone lese, his suits are made by someone else, his brain is occupied by somone....
Shut-up Bloomberg (and your lacky Morgan) and go rule your lil filthy empire called NYC and leave the rest of the country alone with your drivel.
one crazy SOB should not limit our rights. if you are avid sportsmen or just like to shoot, 6000 rounds would not be a big deal as you go to the gun range very often. Guns and ammo do not kill people, People kill people. In the UK where they banned all guns, only the criminals have guns and knife assaults are the assault weopon of choice.
What really should concern you is why the folks at the theater did not follow standard procedure of checking the rear doors very frequently. regal cinemas in my area check those back doors at the begining , and twice during showings. they would have caught the tape over the door latch. In addition, why did not the alarms sound when that door was opened to staff. simple security steps would have played a major role in stopping this massacre.
Also, SCOTUS affirmed the 2nd amendment so no way the Coomunist in Chief can get our guns..
Police are utterly useless, they dont protect and serve they tax collect. Let em go on strike, vigilantes gets more stuff done.
Obviously written by someone that has NEVER< EVER handled a firearm. As the old saying, Übung macht der Meister...Practice makes perfect. And True Gun Control is being able to Hit Your Target. So, yes, one can blow through that many rounds getting proficient with a firearm. You should have asked "WHY DOES DHS NEED 450,000,000 rounds of .40 caliber Hollow Point ammunition (more than most countries have on hand), particularly when that ammo is (a) not used by military forces, (b) is designed to punch through 'bullet proof' vests, and (c) is designed solely to KILL CIVILIANS." And, to add further illustration, .40 caliber, along with the 'standard' military calibers, is illegal in Mexico. Ice-T was absolutely correct when questioned bout the Second Amendment.
"Who needs 6000 rounds?" The 20 million people who were murdered by the red army? The Syrian peasants? The jews living in Germany?
Where did you learn English? University of Stupid?
There are a few problems with Mayor Bloomberg’s position.
One, the Supreme Court of the United States has stated, “Police do not have an obligation to protect American citizens”.
Two, Police Officers are civilians while off duty, so then they would be required to turn in their off duty weapons.
Three, gun confiscation works great doesn’t it; England has higher violent crime, murders, robberies, assaults, since their gun ban.
Who needs more than 16 oz of soda pop? Blooberg is an arrogant S_ _ T Stain
The question you asked is a little ridiculous, particularly when you compare it to "why Homeland Security needs 400 million rounds of Hollow point shells?"
When seconds count, police are only minutes away.... I can react in 10 seconds to an intruder anywhere in my home with a a firearm used for my defense.
This is absurd.
Guns don't kill people.
Just like pens don't write books and shoes don't win marathons.
People make choices and those choices have consequences.
Take away their guns and they will find another way to kill.
People who own guns do practice regularly and it is more convenient to have a reasonable supply on hand for the spouse and friends, the price is cheaper in bulk, and when there is a need for amo due to potential problems the price goes up because the supply is gone.
What do I need with anyone who thinks they can tell me what I need?
Who needs somebody-you, the mayor, the president, the congress-telling them what they need?
What a fool. Police should strike against law makers who are not giving them the right to shoot the criminials and strike against the justice system for not executing criminals. Not strike against decent people wanting to do what the state is supposed to do and can't (protect them).
Who needs more than 2 kids? Who needs more than 30 years on this Earth? Who needs more than 1200 calories per day? Who needs more than 800 square feet in their home? Who needs to weigh more than 120 pounds?
You start putting limits on our rights and soon you have no rights. We have allowed government to take too much of our freedoms already. WAKE UP and take those freedoms back! If we don't, our children and grandchildren will be living as slaves.
EXACTLY why Americans HAVE the 2nd Amendment. If The Police went on strike, WHO would protect YOU?
Do you know how to stop a massacre ? An armed law abiding citizen with a gun, an unarmed population is going to be a victum. An unarmed population equalls DEMOCIDE....THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF UNNATURAL DEATH !!!!!!!
What did the DHS find so compelling that it purchased 7,500,000 rounds of ammo? Are they preparing for an ivasion of Canada or are they preparing to repel the hordes entering from the Southern border? Just curious, you can come up with an answer for yourself and perhaps then you'll know why someone would order 6000 rounds for himself.
Why does the Swiss government give every citizen a fully automatic rife and train them how to use it? Why does the Swiss government have the LOWEST gun related crime in any modern country? If i knew everyone was carrying a gun I sure as hell would not try to attack people with mine if I was a criminal. Just as any other prohibition, the prohibition of guns will fail if it ever comes to be law.
I go to the firing range every weekend and fire 300 rounds. I use over 15,600 rounds a year. 6,000 is nothing. 6000 rounds only lasts for 20 weeks. Buy in bulk, save money, duh.
Who doesn't need 6000, or 60,000, or 600,000? I mean if I'm gonna own a gun, I need bullets. How much I stockpile is a matter of my comfort level and not a line item in a political agenda.
I'll need 3,000 rounds of ammo if the police go on strike.
Not that it is any business of yours, but there are several reasons for a person to buy such amounts of ammunition. First, economy of scale. Second, do you really believe the fascist environmental wackos will never be able to get lead bullets outlawed? Third, many people do a lot of target shooting. That can certainly run through rounds.
Try and get a grip. You have been propagandized and brainwashed and acclimatized by the educational system and the left wing media to believe the normal state of existence is only what government will approve. Oh, that is reason #4
I for one WIL NOT blog or read at any of king Bloombergs site. And will block anything from them!
He'd be the first to have a woman block the shot.........
I don't understand why New Yorkers do not stand up collectively and say, UNTIL THIS NAZI (Bloomburg) is REMOVED FROM OFFICE WE ARE NOT GOING TO PAY OUR TAXES.
These comments only show how out of touch Bloomberg is with the general public. How can one of the richest men in the world know what it's like to have to buy things in bulk to save money? Or, how the regular, law abiding, middle-class citizen (not the crazies like the Aurora killer) who can't afford an army of private security troopers like Bloomberg, just want to protect themselves, their families and their property? Bloomberg should shut up, worry about New York City and donate $100 million to a trust fund for the children of the victims in Colorado.
how many rounds did he use? what differance does it make how many he had? why didnt other people in the audiance have guns and shot at him? one person with a gun in the audiance would have stopped the 70 shots he made.
im sooo glad we have sheep like you that spout the same crap the mass-mis-media spews.
are you capable of thinking for yourself???
does the nany-state need to think for you too???
Why do you feel the need to tell somebody what they "Need" or don't "need"? Not your business.
Can't someone shut this idiot up?
FattyZ
I just wanted to say that both James and Paul are absolutely right. The average "sane" person does not 6000 rounds of ammo. It should be AT LEAST form times that amount. If you don't have that for each caliber, you are not prepared. Go buy more, now, before the price goes up.
Gun Control is not the solution. We will use Colorado as a Prime example because they have some of the most stringent gun control laws in the Nation. This is why this Jerk was able to walk in to a Cinema, and kill 12 people, and injuring 72. Then we had Columbine. Yet you never hear of such horrible things happening in states with lax gun Laws. Heck if they tried this in Florida he would be lucky if he got 3 rounds off before he would have been stopped. The Mayor of NY is forgetting a few things one being the 2nd amendment, and the other is an armed populous is a safe one. If we take away the right to bear arms then the only ones left with guns will be the Bad Guys. The numbers show it. Crime does not go down in cities or states with stringent gun laws they go up. This is not and never will be the solution. remember no gun ever killed anyone. It is the people behind them, and of all the murders with guns involved 95% of the guns were owned illegally.....Think about it
The problem is that we have already done what you folks thought would need to be done to keep the police officers safe. You have disarmed the law abiding citizens and do not allow those who do have a firearm to carry it with them where they go. So we have no choice but to flee when something like this happens. If we have the opportunity to defend ourselves, we will take it. Sure, some of us may end up dying because of this, but at least we took a stand against someone wishing to cause mass casualties. We would rather it be us than someone who is unable to defend themselves against the threat.
Everyone should be trained to use a firearm and be able to carry, either open or concealed, to stop these kinds of travesties from happening. There are an estimated 500k incidents around the US yearly where a firearm is used to defend ones self against an attacker. We don't get to hear about those because there is no sensationalism in them. People are doing what they need to do to protect themselves. You only hear about when people AREN'T able to defend themselves and end up dying because of it.
600 rounds is not that much. it is a days to two days usage at the range. You are clearly a urban jew like Bloomberg
I routinely purchase that amount of small arms ammunition. I teach, I compete and I enjoy shooting roughly 500-1000 rounds a week at the range that is for the public owned by the State of Georgia. Big deal. Bloomberg's stupidity arises from the simple fact that most Police Officers are strong supporters of the 2nd Amendment as interpreted by SCOTUS.
That's why the current President is avoiding the gun control issue like a case of herpes.....
In Fascist Amerika and Fascist NYC you can hire an armed bodyguard and Security Team to follow you around (like Bloomberg and other rich celebrities and elites do) and act at your direction, but you can't just carry a gun yourself...Fascist logic 101..Limit the 2nd amendment only to the rich and famous..because they'll be the last one's to be ushered into the camps to be cooked in the ovens.
Be careful America with these Fascist Amerikans, Germany had the right to keep arms.
Guns and ammo are not the problem. People are. One doesn't need a gun to commit an act of terror or ever murder. If this crazy person wanted to kill a lot of people all he needed was a vehicle and a group of innocent bystanders. The 9/11 terrorist didn't use any guns, they used box cutters. I see no need to take away another one of our freedoms because of this idiot. He should be promptly tried, convicted and publicly executed. I believe taking away peoples lawfully owned guns will only increase crime because then only the bad guys will have guns or they will have less fear of armed citizens. Explain why gun ownership is up and violent crime is going down.
For example I walk into my local gun store and the man behind the counter says, "How can I help you?" I reply, "I want to buy only one 30-06 round with at least 176 grains and velocity of 2,800 feet per second. Would you think I might have a dedicated intension?
I'm all for a nation wide police strike. Perhaps it would result in a thinning the herd. Those who own their own guns will have a much better survival rate than those that want to grab them away from us. C'mon coppers Do it!
A Piers, we get it, you don't like guns. But it is so encouraging to see that you continue to do what you excel at, pandering...
Who cares if the guy had 10,000 rounds. If someone in the audience would have been a conceal carry individual, maybe the guy only gets a handful of rounds off before being taken out. You will never keep guns out of the hands of criminals or people that seem to pose no risk. Your only defense is to conceal and carry.
It's not up to you or the government to determine how much of anything anyone needs. What's next? Gee, you don't need all that money you earned....oh wait. Isn't that what the next election is all about?
It's called individual freedom.
I recommend every gun owner read what Bloomberg said, read the responses of people herein, and immediately go out and buy at least 10K rounds of ammo for every gun you own. If you don't already have an AR or AK you should also get one or more. Don't wait around. Do it now.If the police go on strike you will need the ammo and the weapons to shoot it. Even if they don't there are in fact a lot of reasons to have a lot of guns and ammo. You can endure the accusations of the left. Get at least one tactical shotgun and several handguns. I have had guns and ammo all my life and never had to use them for anything except sport. But I have taken responsibility to have the tools and training to take care of myself and my family.
Why stock up on ammo? Because once a resistance begins against the federal government (the entire purpose of the right to carry, there is NO other purpose for it) .. it will be difficult to impossible to order more. The founders intended that we had pretty much the same arms as the government because, unlike other nations, we ARE the government. That was the intent anyhow.
Show me someone whom is capable of walking around carrying 6000 rounds of ammunition for those weapons. Without going to the emergency room for a groin injury.
6000 rnds of ammo and 4 guns didnt kill anyone. A nut in colorado used tools to kill people. they just happened to be guns. I think its funny that everyone is all in arms(no pun) over the guns but what about the bombs??? what if he walked in there and successfully detonated a bomb and killed 70 and wounded 10??? Or the ones in his apt that could have potentally killed scores??? I would take my chances against some nut shooting at me instead of one throwing grenades or dynamite. SO the obvious solution is to ban anything flammable or harmful if inhaled like the stuff in your bathroom and kitchen which you think is harmless but has the potential to cause wayyyyy more destruction than a gun or bullet. My loaded gun will never kill anyone unless someone picks it up aims and pulls the trigger and even then its not a given.
We should ban life! Oh wait, the Democrats have been working on that for a while now.
I have close to 5000 rds in my closet. I know this will come as a shock to some of you, but I've never killed anybody. Why do I need that many? Well, cheaper to buy in bulk at gun shows, plus when the zombie apocolypse comes I'll be ready.
Hey Mayor Bloomberg,
If the police go on strike, people are going to buy more guns not less. Dummy.
When Bloombergs are outlawed, only outlaws will have Bloombergs.
"Who needs 600o rounds of ammunition"
Those that want it.
Neither you nor the government gets to define anyone's "need" but your own.
How about, you don't decide what I need, and I won't decide what you need. Because, guaranteed, I'll make a decision you won't like.
Wether it 1 round or 10 rounds, or 10,000.00 rounds. What 's the bottom line here, 1 bullet will take a life..? What? One life not enough to make a difference....there needs to be more, and in a public place? How many shootings and deaths in other parts of the country that never get news coverage anymore....Oh I see the Governments plan there...no-one cares about those low life gangsters. Let them shot themselves huh....Oh but if we get a smart crazy kid to do this, we can get tighter gun laws... Ours Government Wants to Take all those rights away out for fathers fought so hard for us to keep. I guess there efforts were in vain, and for nothing if The American People are gonna sit back and do nothing to insure we keep our gun laws keep safe from tyranny. This is just another ploy from our goverment to create tighter gun laws. When in-fact more people should be More Concered by this and need to get "ammo and guns" while you can.......
The NRA solution to drunk driving, give them more alcohol.............................
Last week or maybe 2 weeks – in Boise idaho area. A brother or cousin coming home late at night shot by his brother or cousin on the house thinking someone had broken into the house.
I'm for gun control .
14 people died in Texas when a truck, packed with 24 illegals, crashed. Where's the outrage? Are you for F250 control?
Hey stupid, If he killed him with a baseball bat or golf club would you call to ban all bats and golf clubs?
An evil person is going to use whatever is at their disposal to commit murder. A gun is just a tool (that happens to be protected under the 2A). Calling for a gun ban is just as silly as theaters banning costumes.
Bravo....well said DE!
Those things arent used solely for killing things. Guns are horrible. We live amongst them so I am for the second ammendment and upholding it, I just dont think it should include automatic weapons. And quit calling people stupid, it reflects poorly on your argument.
Dom,
Why should law abiding citizens not own automatic weapons? The term "automatic" is confusing because it is used to describe two types of firearm actions – an action that automatically reloads a second round vs. an action that automatically fires continuously when trigger is depressed. In 1934, the National Firearm Act was established by the federal government to register machineguns and the Hughes Amendment in 1986 made the ownership of machineguns limited to guns mfg up to 1986. There are strict federal guidelines for individuals to own legally transferable machineguns (which some states disallow ownership) and anybody that understands economics should know that a finite number of guns increase in price over time. The NFA community is one of the most law abiding groups in this country so I doubt you'll be seeing guys going on shooting rampages with their $15,000 M16s. Also, individuals must get approval from their local law enforcement agencies and submit FBI fingerprint cards which the BATFE then examines before allowing the transfer.
The gun used by the shooter was a semi-automatic rifle.
@dom....
You show for all to see, your lack of knowledge about guns, when you use the term "Automatic"
Similar to what a female journalist would saw
@DOM , it wasnt a automatic weapon he had. Educate yourself on weapons before you start the hate spewing. Thats the problem with this country. People see a AR-15 and think its some movie gun that shoots 100 rounds a second.... Any semi auto hunting rifle could of done the same thing. The problem is that people see any kind of military style gun and jump to conclusions...
Maybe instead of gun control because of guns, you should be targeting the reform of those people behind the guns. People who are educated in how to use guns don't just whip them out at a whim. They get out of the house and call 911. Since when did common sense become so uncommon in our country. We have to sell smaller soda bottles in NY so that we can control obesity because people obviously do not have the good sense to shut their own mouths and teach their children to do the same. It's called self control. This country has become really great at pointing the finger at others and playing the victim completely ignoring the fact that maybe....just maybe we need to start learning how to exercise some self control and common sense. Maybe his brother got killed because the idiot behind the gun was stupid?
sounds to me like a quick trigger finger.....
You are better off calling for hillbillie control or alcohol control cuz i am willing to bet good old uncle jacktooth was all hopped on whiskey and wine prior to letting his nephew have it!
Fascism has a new name: Michael Bloomberg.
The stories can go on and on. Has not one thing to do with a crazy man killing people but to the gun control people, it somehow matters. Last week I was reading that in the UK, using a knife on people has been rising. In some places it has risen by several hundred percent. Listen now, I know it hurts but mommy let you go a long time ago, there are bad people in the world and all the governments men won't change it. Since the dawn of man, it has been that and will be that way. So stop handcuffing the entire world to try and pretend you can change the world. Errrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!
"A young mom in Oklahoma made the decision to protect her child by killing an intruder who tried to enter her home on New Year's Eve.
********, a young Oklahoma mother, shot and killed an intruder in order to protect her 3-month-old baby."
Kay, you dont get it. The 2nd Amendment was put in place for a very important reason, that is for citizens to protect themselves against enemies foreign and domestic,(especially the Fed Govt) and to ensure our 1st Amendment freedom. I suppose you are oblivious to the heavy handed Police State tactics that are being implemented in this country as I type? Take away the guns and only criminals will have them and youll think twice when someone breaks into your home and you are left helpless and at the mercy of a 911 operator, but oh yea, Police response times are lousy, by then,youll probably end up dead along with your family.Guns do not kill people, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE.
Kay:
Twelve years ago, my father shot and killed an intruder at 3 AM. He had seven grandchildren visting him. The intruder had a illegal .357 magnum with him plus a twelve inch bucher's knife. Mr. Intruder was wanted in another state for multiple murder....he let my Dad's place in a bodybag.
As Dad put it: "Better him leaving that way than my grandkids-or me. I didn't survive three wars to have that S**T happen in my own home"
May 16th 2012 Paige Parkerson stabs father of her children to death because of Cheap Mothers Day present.
Google it not lying. No gun needed in that killing. Common thread BAD HUMAN not the weapon.
If we are going to talk about personal preferences, I'm in favor of intelligence and genetic testing before people are allowed to have children, mandating a massive escrow bond before marriage, returning ALL government staffing levels to 1980 levels, and returning all school curricula to 1960 standards for testing and advancement. But, then, none of those are PC, though they would all be good for the country and NONE violate anyone's rights under the Bill of Rights.
Do you have any idea how many millions of guns are out there? Do you know how many are sold here and around the world? Do you know that countries that we can't control sell them? Do you know how easy it is to make a gun in your garage or living room? Do you know that powerful explosives can be made with minimal information and household chemicals (and the instructions for same are easily accessible to anyone)? You're recommending another era of prohibition. The police are NEVER there when the bad guys come. They can't protect you, they just try to clean up after you or your loved ones are killed or worse. Home invasions typically involve more than one attacker and lots of rounds are fired. If you want to be proficient (and safe – you do want us to be safe, don't you?) a gun owner must shoot frequently and train for a variety of situations. 1 round was too many for the Aurora killer. 6000 is easily reasonable for someone who intends to be safe and proficient with a personal defense weapon. We know that if we surrender our arms we will be at the mercy of some truly bad people. Bad people will have guns. Police will not be there to protect us. That's why we will never let anyone take our arms. Never.
Is there a certain portion of the color spectrum that denotes the desire to engage in direct or indirect assault activities. Would that color include vehicle tires, underwear,refrigerators and washer and dryer units? How would these engage in assault activities? tires being questionable.
very unfair to guest author on segment with gershowitz. lott was not given time to fully explain his position.
too much interruption by piers and gershowitz. felt that piers needed gershowitz because he was not
comfortable with the material. he cut it short to exstinguish lott. love the show but that was appalling.
piers should learn to shut up and listen. lott was more informed and I wanted to hear what he had
to say. I think piers thought he was on the side of the majority and talked over the expert. redo!!
I agree 100%; Larry never interrupted like this. Even Lott made the point of saying it was odd that the interviewer talked more than the interviewee. I honestly wanted to slap Piers and tell him to shut that flapper up for a few minutes.
I couldn't believe how Piers spoke over his guests and wouldn't allow them to respond when he didn't get the answer that he wanted. This is not journalism: that's bullying.
Well said.
Peirs I as an american veteran and former gun owner am appalled by your total lack of manners toward your guest who wrote more guns less crime, Lets really think I stood in uniform for 27 years and have the right to keep and bear arms, the 100 round mag which you kept stating will let loose 100 rounds in 1 min. only IF the shooter can pull the triger 100 times in 1 Min. also the shooter chose a place which shows strict rules against gune so he knew he woul;d not be shot back at, no country will militarially invade the US due to the GUNS we own.
HWWelsh III. This is so well said. Thank you for your 27 yrs of service. I too am retired from the military and completely understand where you are coming from.
Worst interview and interviewer in the world. All Piers did was grandstand as if he was interviewing himself. All one sided. Can't stand another second of it. I haave never written a comment online in my life previously in ragards to any show in my life and I will not comment on Piers Morgan again becuse I will NEVER turn him on again.
I agree, I was so disappointed with Piers. He was horribly rude and not interested in Lott's point of view. He just wanted a whipping boy to try and prove his point. I have a lot of respect for Piers but it is difficult for people not born in this country to understand the gun issue. My husband is from England also and he and his family don't get it at all. They ask me about it all the time and why I feel it is so important for Americans to own guns.
I'm not surprised that CNN's Piers Morgan has continually received poor ratings. He is an arrogant, opinionated bully with his guests. He doesn't allow fair dialogue with guests who don't agree with him. He speaks over them to get his point across. Very poor quality style.
My goodness....as much as I'm for gun control, Piers needs to STOP interrupting his guests. Tonight was painful to watch. If Piers disagrees with his guests, it becomes all about his views. Even if you disagree with the pro-gun view let's hear what he has to say. I grow tired of listening to Piers cut someone off before they finish their sentence. I only watch Piers if there is a good guest, otherwise I just cant take the interrupting....it's too frustrating.
Tonight's interview was a one sided discussion on Piers view of the 2nd amendment and served no real purpose other than to express his view. What happened in Aurora was a sad event by a mentally disturbed individual and we should all be devastated by this senseless act. I no longer have any respect for Piers and will no longer watch his show as it demonstrated a lack of balanced discussion. Personally, I would have walked out of the interview had I been his guest.
I whole-heartedly agree with Michael. What is the point of his show. I hardly EVER watch, but I was interested in his guest's views tonight. Mr. Lott was respectful, and at a loss for why he could not finish a sentence – not one sentence! I was filled with anxiety just wanting Mr. Lott try to get a word in to answer even one question. I don't want to feel like this after a long, stressful day at work. Piers Morgan was rude, and his bantering only proved he had an agenda. I don't care about HIS agenda! I want a debate in the proper manner, not bullying and rude accusations. Piers needs an education in etiquette. I will NEVER watch his show EVER again! I still did not learn anything about Mr. Lott and his book. I am sure other than being frustrated, Mr. Lott was angry and totally embarrassed. Shame on you CNN.
Piers,
I watched your interview this evening on gun control and I was quite dismayed... Instead of answering your own questions and giving your own opinions, it would be much more informative (to your viewers) if you let your guests answer the questions that you have asked them.
What is it gonna take to ban purchase of assault weapon in the US??? Who has to die to make it worth??? How many more kids and innocent peoplemhave tomdie before congress and leaders in this country will have their consciuosness wake up... Instead of worrying about re-election?????? This is disgusting and disgraceful for a country like the US...
More people die each year as the result of alcohol abuse. How many politicians have killed innocent people due to drunk driving? Where's the outrage? Prohibition didn't work.
New York City, Chicago, and DC have some of the strictist gun laws yet the highest crime rates. Guns aren't the problem, people are.
We have tried various bans in the US, they don't work. In the year preceding the 1994 assault weapons ban more than two times the number of assault weapons were produced in one year than in the previous 5 years combined. A year after the ban the prices for these firearms dropped because of the ready availability of them; we had more people with more assault rifles than ever before. Yet gun crime rates started to drop and haven't stopped since 1991, even after the ban expired; explain that. There is also the fact that these types of firearms are used in only 1%-8% of gun crime. People, I beg you, do some research into these things before demanding more gun control. It might seem to be the obvious answer but, there is more to it than limiting the freedoms of the majority.
The term "assault weapon" was made up by politicians and is defined by any firearm that looks "scawwwy". Assault rifles on the other hand are defined as a medium caliber rifle cable of full automatic fire. Those have been regulated heavily since 1934 and completely banned new manufacture to civilians in 1986. Furthermore as per FBI statistics so called "assault weapons" are used in less than 1% of all gun crimes committed every year. Also what is commonly overlooked is that in a vast majority of gun crimes both the perpetrator and the victim would not be able to legally obtain firearms legally(meaning criminals).
Since I notice most liberals agree with disarming the public because of how man people guns kill per year, let's look at another statistic. Since the 60's 500,000 Americans have been killed by firearms. Since 1973 somewhere between 49 and 51 MILLION abortions have taken place. But that's acceptable right?(please note that I am pro choice, just making a point)
Seriously here is a formal request that CNN fire Piers Morgan. He is a horrible journalist! His tactics and motivation are deplorable. Go back to Britian you limey ass!
PIERS MORGAN – displayed genuine lack of respect for his guest the author of "More Guns, Less Crime" (I forgot his name). Piers interrupted the guest, didn't allow the guest to make his points, used up the guest's speaking time by repeating the same emotional outbursts (why does someone need so much ammo, etc?). It was the WORST interview I've seen on a major network and Piers should be heavily reprimanded for flushing any journalistic professionalism down the toilet and reverting to school yard style bullying. Shame on you Piers, you know better.
Agreed. The sooner they fire this guy, the better.
Sir, what is the definition of 'asault weapons'? No one knows, it's all just appearance. By the governments own admission, the Clinton gun ban did nothing.
What good are more laws going to do? The theater was marked that no weapons could be brought into the space. How well did that work? The only people that are stopped from bringing weapons are those who obey laws. Criminals pay no attention to the laws. That's why they are criminals, duh!
Dumb!
The Jews learned very quickly what happened when the government took their guns away.
Piers, I am a huge fan of you and your show but totally disappointed tonight. I was so happy you asked "why does a regular citizen need a semi automatic weapon" but you never let him answer. I applaud you for your passion on this topic, but we depend on you and CNN to educate us on all opinions, not just ones you agree with.
Piers Morgan is really starting to irritate me. He is far too aggressive with some of his guests (particularly those with ideas of the political right). I've watched him a couple of times (Johan Greenburg: Lott) and he doesn't let his guest speak. Rude. And when challenged he asks, "Isn't that good journalism?" No, it is not – it is acting like an attack dog instead of an intelligent interviewer. Give us discussion, please, instead of trying to ram your ideas down our throats.
Back off and let your intelligent guests speak – whatever their political persuasion. You invited them on for a reason didn't you?
I totally agree and when talking about American issues he refers to the UK quiet frequentley as to compare our immensely more populated country to theirs. Likeeee we don't care
30 year conceled carry permit owner. I follow thie law. Who are you to quite the opinion of your guest? He is an American citizen with a viewpoint. I will no longer watch your show. Larry King as always had professional discipline in his interviews. Where did CNN's application for his replacement request say " narrow mindedness". One word you are here at the request of your employer. Get another job. The American public would welcome your removal.
Mr. Morgan...
You are THE rudest talk show host ever! You never let the guests get a word in edge-wise. You continue to ask the same questions over and over. It is completely annoying. Any communication person should know that "listening" is the most important part of communicating. Shut the he'll up so we can get to know your guests. We're tired of listening to you squawk the same question over and over again.
Signed,
Disappointed in the Desert
Piers,
If you like the UK so much. Why don't you go back, and leave this country. Maybe the BBC would hire you. Let your guests speak. Isn't that why you have a show. For the guests opinion.
I agree with Ed. I was reminded why I don't watch the news but, at the same time, I see why I probably should. Piers – do you think we are all mindless idiots that you needed to protect or do you think maybe he's on to something? It's really a shame how you and Gershowitz railroaded him and wouldn't even let him speak. Pretty cool how he maintained his temper (like the law abiding citizen) while you got loud, frustrated and became a bully (like the gunman). Strange parallel I know but neither you nor Gershowitz had the real numbers like he did and you were scared to let him speak. Instead you had to shut him up and hope people believed what you said about his examples (and ultimately him) being ridiculous. Israel really does have one of the lowest murder rates. Hey Piers! – check out this article detailing the success of England's gun control laws. http://www.saf.org/journal/16/guncontrolinengland.pdf
I agree, you should give the guy a chance to explain his position completely uninterrupted and you should issue a public apology for the way you treated him.
Morgan and Bloomberg are both idiots just like those bleeding heart liberals that want to take our Country and rights away. They just don't get it. The only time any type of gun control would have worked is the same day the first gun was invented and even then the criminals would have figured out a way to get them. The only thing gun control is going to do is punish law abiding citizens and open season on them for criminals.
What needs to be done is allow those law abiding citizens to carry guns. Just think if there were someone in that theatre that was carrying they may have been able to stop that crazy person from killing so many or maybe not it's too late now. I know you will say that will put more guns in the hands of crazy people but wake up America those people already have guns!!! p.s. Piers, Take your stupid views back to England and stay out of our business!!!
He was a law abiding citizen. Please quit with the "idiots", no one can read the reason behind your anger. And if you are for a conservative foreign policy strategy, you can also quit with the "stay out of our business" bit, it reads as arrogant and ignorant (from a fellow American, albeit a bleeding heart liberal).
Bloomberg? really? since when is this failed mayor an authority on guns? It is his failed leadership, outright fraudulant opinions, and loaded wishful thinking that makes him the poster child for enept government in action. He and his mayor group have been countered by FBI statistics, credible studies, and hostory-please stop putting this overdue public servant infront of us as a expert-he cant even balance the New York check book.
Well I have to say that tonight was the first time I have ever wanted to reach through my screen and duct tape the mouths of both Piers' ...along with that of Dershowitz. This interview was clearly a session to bash the author and using this poor author as a mere excuse to take out their hostile aggression for a tragedy that he had nothing to do with. I was interested in hearing the statistics and at the end only heard the ignorant rantings of Dershowitz and Morgan. Dershowitz was a complete disgrace literally backing up nothing that came out of his mouth and repeatedly gesturing how we should exercise common sense while pointing to his temple – sheer ignorance. He is an attorney not a statistician and maybe if both these men closed their mouths and opened their ears they might learn something. They bashed this man as if "gun control" was the culprit of this whole tragedy. If this is the case then maybe we should be suing Henkels every time someone is murdered with a knife. These men ignorantly think that gun control will prevent these tragic events – Common sense tells you that in order to prevent these events from happening you would literally have to monitor every US Citizen's mental health. How feasible and cost effective is that? One lunatic out of 312 million people in the US; it's like finding a needle in a haystack. And then quoting statistics on the number of killings with guns per country. How skewed was that statistic quoted by Piers? Try looking at those statistics on a population based ratio if you want a true comparison especially with the disparity in population (US 312M, UK 63M, Israel 8M). Really? These men were a complete disgrace and their guest really was a man of patience and class. I personally would have walked off the show.
Piers didn't give them hell tonight...he told the truth and you think it's hell!
DM Not sure if your post is in reply to mine but no where do I mention the word hell. I think if you notice 99% of these posts voice disgust with PM's behavior as a journalist (if you can call him that as by his behavior it is anything but journalism). The "truth" you reference can be many things for many people. Ultimately it the truth is found through peer reviewed research. His guest had spent years backing his book with statistics whereas PM opened his mouth backing it with nothing as did Dershowitz. That is not TRUTH. It is an attempt to stifle truth or anyone's opinion that differs from your own. It is immature and he was a comp,ete disgrace along with Dershowitz who added nothing of value given his background
No, he acted like a total jerk.. the sooner CNN drops this guy, the better. Hey, their raitings may even start to go back up once they fire him. Maybe just a little anyway.
*Ratings.
What happened to the other posts? Thwre were almost 200 negative posts on Mr.Morgans interview tonight. You guys are really manipulative. I Know Only show the good stuff.
I always thought Larry King was very poor journalist, boring and pandering. Piers makes him look good. Tonight his interview with John Lott was nothing more than a rant so he could expound on his ill informed opinions, talking over any intelligent answers, and sounding like an ignorant buffoon, very impressed with himself and unwilling to discuss a scientific point of view that differs. But then again, maybe that's what he is–an ignorant buffoon impressed with himself. CNN let Larry go, Piers is an ignorant bully with lousey ratings. He should join Elliot Spitzer as one of CNN's failure to live up journalistic integrity. Maybe this week he'll have Michael Jackson's mother on to discuss the Colorado tragedy; it would be right up his "journalistic" alley. Get rid of him and get back to what CNN was intended to be.
What an appalling and frustrating show. Clearly we understand what Piers thinks and of course Mayor Bloomberg's selection as his feature interview only serves to affirm his perspective. Everyone normal person is upset by these events and wishes there was some effective way to prevent this kind of senseless violence. The answer, however, is not to ban all firearms! This position is nonsensical for so many reasons – none of which the lone "pro-gun" guest – however inarticulate he was – was given the chance to share. What I think it fair to say about the horrible events is the following: The shooter would have found any number of ways to kill people even if he never had access to the firearms he purchased. It is feasible to believe that someone legally armed may have been able to prevent or minimize some of the harm being done to thgse defenseless people. Lastly, the vast majority of people who own similar weapons – myself included – are law abiding, rationale people who have no interest in or capacity to cause such violence. Why should we be denied access to firearms? What have we done to merit such a potential violation of our rights and contempt for our good citizenship? Peirs is a lively host but is disappointingly ignorant of U.S. history and culture as it relates specifically to this topic. Prepare better the next time please and be more respectful of your guests whether you agree with them or not.
Dersherwitz is not the right guest to talk about guns or crime-he is a lawyer advocating the release of thousands of violent criminals including the elimination of the death penalty for offenders such as the Colorado shooter. He has been discredited in this area, and finds himself embattled in court rooms to be taken as anything but a showpeice-nobody really hirtes this guy anymore, smae leauge as Jeffery Fieger-all they really have are loud opinions, junk ideas and no real data. All the volume is the world and rude interuptions by host Peirs will not change the facts that more guns equal less crime. Just ask the police if they'd like to have less guns to fight crime. Why should citizens have any less advantage against the criminals dershowitz and his greasy buddies have helped get outa jail.
Hey Alan D. – Like the Jewish lawyer in The Caine Mutiny said – "Can't fight a Nazi with a law book."
Mr Morgan: please take your UK views on firearms back to the UK, and stop trying to impose your views on how you think the United States should be run.
Piers Morgan did rush his butt here. Must have liked it better than where he came from. Don't try to turn us into the country you ran from.
If Piers was a professional, he would offer a public appology.
Larry, I 100% agree, he owes Mr Lott an apology and should have him come back so we can here his views. P.M. was totally unprofessional.........
I am so sick of Piers Morgan's rants... this interview (or lack thereof) with Mr. Lott, was pure sabotage. Your opinions don't matter to me... you were rude, pompous and self serving... why don't you just hold your program with NO GUESTS so you can talk all the time.
I agree with Lawrence B–ambush journalism and bush league technique.
An interesting point–the British tried to impose gun control on the colonies to further subjugate them. The colonists said "no". The second amendment was the outcome of a revolution that created the country that Piers now finds so offensive. Maybe it's because he's British. He should go back to the UK where he would be safe–but last I heard they were trying to control knives over a certain length due to knife crime. One UK politician seemed to question why anyone would need a butcher size knife, Right, that's gonna work.
I agree with Benjamin. You were so rude. The only thing I heard was your opinion. You wouldn 't let him speak. Why have guest on if you don 't let them talk.
Clearly neither Piers nor Bloomberg understand the 2nd Amendment
Bloomberg also wants to ban soda, banned smoking, forced the NY taxis to become hybrids etc....
He is clearly a little tyrant.
Piers wants to act like a shocked Brit each time he discusses the Americans right to bare arms
But the 2nd Amendment, like most of the US laws originates in England.
"no royal interference in the freedom of the people to have arms for their own defence as suitable to their class and as allowed by law (simultaneously restoring rights previously taken from Protestants by James II)"
Convention of Parliament 1689
As annoying as Piers was I can't help but comment on the arrogance of Mayor Bloomberg. How ridiculous to hear him describe mayors as people "who get things done"! New York City has very strict gun laws yet a high – and growing – rate of gun violence! Of course it's not the Mayor's fault – only by the police striking and the Federal government banning the private ownership of firearms will he be able to complete the creation of a utopian environment in my beloved hometown where no one will smoke or drink 20 oz. or larger sugared and caffeinated drinks. I can't wait for his remaining 528 days in office to come to and end.
OK – some questions. Isn't it just common sense that having access in the US to an AR-15 assault rifle capable of firing 50 to 60 rounds a minute is a mistake? Why is it a "right" to have such a weapon? For what reason exactly? Can't we have some sensible policy about these kind of weapons?
Why is a justification necessary or appropriate? I have always felt it should be the obligation of others to indicate why we should NOT be able to have such a firearm. I have one so do hundreds of thousands of others who have never presented any danger to you or anyone else. For the record, since you may be relatively new to this topic and the laws themselves, I would certainly agree that Colorado should consider a law similar to that in other states in which "drum magazines" would be outlawed. 30 round magazines are legal in many states and others limit those to 10 rounds. The term "assault rifle" is misused and generally misunderstood. Unfortunately – and I do not refer to you in any way – most people who engage in this discussion frankly don't know the difference between a semiautomatic and a semiconductor.
OK – some questions. Isn't it just common sense that having access in the US to a car capable of going from 0 to 60 mph in less than 10 seconds is a mistake? Why is it a "right" to have such a vehicle? For what reason exactly? Can't we have some sensible policy about these kind of cars?
I changed MAYBE 15 words from your post to show how rediculous it can sound. And please, learn the proper terminology. An "Assault Rifle" is a weapon capable of automatic fire. There are already heavy restrictions on such weapons. And before someone says that cars vs. guns is not a good analogy, car accidents kill more people in the US every year than guns do in a decade.
Piers,
I am so proud that you are taking a stance on gun control. I am so tired of people not doing the right and common sense things to ensure our safety due to political gain. Keep hammering this topic and get a movement started to hold our elected officials responsible for tighter gun control There will always be a way someone can kill people. But way make it easy? There is no reason anyone needs these kinds of weapons that were used in this theater massacre.
Why don't you all stop holding guns responsible and start holding the people behind them responsible. Or is that too much to ask...simple common sense and self restraint. Guns didn't kill those people in CO. The person behind the guns chose to kill them. It only take one nut case to create this situation. Something that unless there is complete accountability for the mental state of 312 Million US citizens could have never been prevented. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. But God forbid we instill this guilt on our fellow human beings and demand some sort of moral compass.......nope if it makes you feel good, you have the right to do and the rest of just need to go with it....ignorance truly is bliss.
I totally agree with you. I have never participated in discussions previously;however, I was so impressed with the program tonight I went online to hopefully thank Pierce Morgan for taking a stand. I am horrified by the negative comments. Comparing the homicide statistics in the United States with other countries around the world, it is easy to understand why we need to change our gun laws. Earlier this week, the police commissioner from Chicago addressed the issue in the same manner as Mr. Morgan and Mayor Bloomberg. My husband is a retired Air Force pilot who has no desire to own a gun. We lived in Europe for three years, and saw that the logic of people in the United States feeling that they have a right to own a gun is truly frightening. Living now in Oklahoma where the legislature just passed a law allowing people to walk around with guns visible to all takes us back to the wild west days. More people need to be willing to take a stand with elected officials to let them know that the gun owners might be more verbal, but are not necessarily in the majority.
Melinda, do you have any idea why the right to bear arms is the SECOND Amendment, right after Free Speech? It is so Americans can defend themselves against a government turned oppressive (eg if the TSA and Dept of Homeland Security gets even further out of control). Single shot handguns are pretty useless in that regard. Yes, being armed costs lives along the way, but in the long run it saves more .. look at Germany, a nation considered more 'civilized' than the wild west USA .. how many civilians died in the 20th century? Far more than in the US .. it just happened all at once due to a free but unarmed country turned oppressive overnight in the name of 'security'.
I was absolutely disgusted tonight watching Piers Morgan's program on the gun control debate. For someone who isn't even an American citizen, he has some nerve standing on his soap box lecturing the American viewers on what the meaning of the 2nd amendment. He is obviously very biased on his stance on gun control and pounced on the opportunity to bring this topic into discussion after the terrible tragedy in Colorado. I understand that this is a sensitive topic especially after the events of last week.
However, if he was truly open to having a debate he would not have been so rude to his guest John Lott. John Lott is a respected academic professor, researcher and author. The fact that Mr. Lott had a different view point than that of Piers would have made for an honest civilized debate. However Mr. Lott was never given a second to answer any of his questions. He was interrupted repeatedly in a rude manner that was very disrespectful.
Of the 15 questions Mr. Lott was asked he was interrupted each and every time, while the pro-gun control guest Gershowitz was allowed to speak extensively after each of his 3 softball questions. Piers and Gershowitz sounded completely unprepared to discus anything about firearms let alone firearm restrictions. The only person who had any information on the topic was not given a chance to inform the viewers.
The problem is that Piers doesn't know the meaning of the word debate. In a debate their is a premise, followed by arguments to support or disprove the premise, followed by facts, figures and research to support your argument. Piers failed and knew he was unprepared and had to result to loud outbursts and interruptions. Completely unprofessional, I wanted to expect more from CNN but I guess I was wrong.
Piers has said he wants to have a discussion and debate about gun control. I saw neither a discussion nor a debate tonight. I just saw a poor interviewer interrupting his guest everytime he tried to answer a question. Same thing out of Dershowitz. Clearly Lott was the only one that remained cool, calm, and profession despite the poor treatment he was receiving. He didn't sensationalize or call the others ideas silly or non-sensical or claim their stance was junk science. He was the only one who tried to have a discussion and debate.
I'm watching this with morbid curiosity and having a little difficulty after hear Piers and Bloomberg and Dershowitz.
I'm a retired social worker with 35 years experience. I also hold 2 graduate degrees from top line universities.
I own an AR-15,(and an evil AK47), a Remington 870 12 ga shotgun, a couple of Glocks and a few thousand rounds of ammo for 9mm, .40, .38/.357 magnum, .44 spl/magnum, .223 and .308. I also hold a license to carry and believe that I, as well as every living organism on the planet, have the right to defend my own existence. I've never had the urge to go out and massacre innocents (and I've never witnessed any of these evil machines going out and doing it by themselves).
The question I have for Piers, Alan and Michael is–why? Is there something wrong with me?
and to the NEW YORK mayor why DONT YOU GIVE UP YOUR BODY GUARDS , they have guns , so you so special you dont walk without them , what a DIRT bag you are to talk CHIT, CLEAN UP NEW YORK FIRST MORON BEFORE YOU STICK YOUR NOSE IN EVERYONE ELSES BUSSINESS
Until you can guarantee me that government will never descend into tyranny, I will keep my 2nd Amendment. Piers, why don't you do a report on Jose Padilla, and then you can tell me government won't descend into tyranny. Guns are our insurance policy against tyranny.
Oh please...what a lame comment... WAKE UP people..it's not 1792 it's 2012...and have no fear...after Obama comes Hillary 2016...get used to it peeps..your time has run out.
DM if you have nothing of value to add you need to please get off this blog. You have consistently just bashed people's opinions with immature and ignorant remarks.
Who are you to say what the American people need? The people want guns, & have the right to own them. This is like jamming healthcare down our throat wether we like it or not. Let the people decide, the way it was intended.
Warning to all free-thinking Americans...it appears the NRA has manned this blog tonight.
Why don't we want more government controls on firearms Peirs?
TSA
If Piers Morgan doesn't like how America deals with guns then why doesn't he move back to England.
ok this is not junk science,that is a biased attack,for example, Indianapolis Indiana,you cannot own a firearm,but the crime is threw the roof
i live in a town in kentucky,almost everyone has a rifle or something,we have no crime
I grew up in the country where everyone had guns. No crime at all because it was common knowledge that if you went into someone's house then you were likely to not walk out.
This segment was SO BAD. Piers Morgan should NOT be pontificating when he has guests on. Let the guests ANSWER the flipping question!!!! PIERS MORGAN SHOULD BE FIRED!
I agreed he really needs to be fired. I can't stand how he compares the UK to the US and makes the US feel inferior. I can't stand him.
I am from the U.S. but have lived the last 20 years in United Arab Emirates where I will never be shot by a gun, could leave my door open all night and never have any crime commited against me. My daughter came to the U.S. to go to university. I had culture shock in my own country and had a very hard time leaving her here due to violent crimes with guns. The idea that she could be shot in a restaurant or a movie theater is very unsettling. I do hope one day the U.S. people will realize that they can feel the same safety I feel everyday with some gun control.
Why don't you buy her a gun and then she can protect herself against crazy people.
i live in a nice peaceful town,EVERYONE owns guns
we have no crime,i wonder why
But...but...do they have Miranda rights there? Jury trials? The exclusionary rule? Do deranged homeless people have the right to roam the streets? Or, just let me take a wild guess, do the cops have the pretty much unfettered right to arrest bad people and people they think are "bad" including weirdos like that guy in Colorado? Would you support to have the kind of orderly society you treasure? You know what, so would lots of people here! As compared with gunless Britain, Dubai and Singapore are safer. And you managed to overlook those things when posting?
Here is an idea, if you are concerned send your daughter to France or England. Much stricter gun laws.
If you can not understand the basic concept of armed citizens please stay in URA. There will always
be evil in the world. We do not live in the liberal utopia and it will never exist. It is a shame
you have reproduced.
IT JUST GOT WORSE. I LITERALLY JUST CHANGED THE CHANNEL. UNWATCHABLE.
SHAME ON CNN FOR ALLOWING SUCH ONE-SIDED GRAND-STANDING.
Morgan should be banned from CNN and transferred to MSNBC or britans got talent.
Alot of things that were stated in the interview were incorrect. More than half of the reported guns deaths are suicides. The so called assault rifles were never complely outlawed just certain cosmetic features. These rifles are technically not "assault rifles". While what this guy bought online may raise some red flags, to anyone that shoots 6,000 rounds is not unheard of. I think you all would be surprised about how many people have a few thousand rounds in their home. In a typical day at the shooting range with friends you can easily go though a thousand or two.
I would highly doubt that anyone in that theater that night would object to anyone watching that movie carrying a gun. Then he brings up body armor. You're not Iron man if you have body armor on. You are still taking an impact of a bullt and it doesn't just repel unlimited bullets.
There has to have been some red flags or behavior that this guy exhibted. Just like in many cases like this. Strong background checks, mental health checks, tougher screening may be he answer. Banning doesn't work. Ask mayor Bloomburg how their were 10 shootings just last week in NYC but some how all guns are banned there.
Piers has no idea what he is talking about.
i know,you want to see out of control gun fire,do what pierce wants and try to disarm the american people
you will see out of control gun fire
Only a communist like PM and all libtards would advocate GUN control. Remember what Hitler did. Take away everyone's guns and send in the ghestapo! Liberals are the cancer of society!
Why have a guest if you wont even let him talk.
Piers, you were so RUDE to your NRA "guest" and obviously pushing your personal opinion about the 100 round magazine that your demeanor and agenda TOTALLY drowned the effectiveness of your intent. I am sorry to see that and disappointed in you. I thought you were of a higher CALIBER! I have relegated you to the status of just another cacaphonous, conversation interrupting boor. So disappointed.
Mr Morgan............tonight is the last night that I will be watching your interviews. You have proved you are not an "interviewer" but more a one-sided opinionated typical news journalist. Don't you know by now that when you interview, you let the person finish the question YOU ask of him?
WOW!!!
I have heard so much about gun control laws and regulations on this and that through this country. So far none of it works, it's funny that New York comments on gun control, yet had over 4,000 guns confiscated on the street from police officers (4th most gun controlled city in the U.S.). Chicago also has the worse gun crimes in the U.S. (almost 1,200 deaths and is one of the top 10 gun controlled cities in the U.S.) When the assault weapons band (1994-2004) was put in-place, there was six mass shootings in the U.S. were 35 citizens lost there life and almost 100 people were injured, criminals do not obey the laws, plan and simple. Now there is a few things that we need to fix, but you do not start it by banning guns. Now I do agree no one needs a 100 round drum or arming piercing bullets, yes certain things need to be tracked. Yet none of those are not the main problem, the problem comes within our nation, those problems are we the people are unethical, unmoral, irresponsible, and most do not follow the good old fashion American values we use to. Basically, the United States need to work harder remembering our principles, morals and ethical codes. So Mr. Piers Morgan to answer your question why is it that Britain has less gun crimes? Better morals and ethics, also a much better education system while also having a small island of only 50-60 million people. Don't think
Piers has great guests but he talks over the top of them and often does not let them finish their answer to a question he asks. He is always trying to show that he has more answers than they do. Prime examples were Supreme Court Justice Scalia and the Dali Lama. Their are numerous others. We watch to hear what his guests have to say not Piers opinions.
PM is a communist! CNN is a breeding ground for liberal Socialistic/Communistic media!
Just joined the NRA for three years, never would have before Piers Morgan and Alan Dershowitz spewed all their ignorance. Congrats Piers and Alan for recruiting me to the NRA.
What a hatchet job! Appalling journalism .....and that's a stretch. Piers you had trouble judging "talent" .........Dershowitz typical lawyer...screw the facts, bully on Teddy!
I don't know what's sadder about this entire exchange:
1. There's a CNN producer in a control room somewhere fist pumping the "awesome television" he/she thinks this yell fest is allegedly creating.
2. 3 people have been killed by guns in the US during this program.
Your points are so well taken. I thought the same thing about the "producer". See all the reaction this PM show is creating?
A point to raise is this: If Mr. Bloomberg wonders what tragedy it will take to convince our President (or incoming) to create restrictions in regard to gun control, likewise I wonder what it will take for CNN to finally fire PM!?! WAKE UP!
NOBAMA2012! NOBAMA2012! NOBAMA2012! NOBAMA2012! NOBAMA2012!
Hey pm why dont you go back to England since you love their gun laws. Our founding fathers left your country because of yalls controlling communist ways. So dont come to my country and try and change our laws. GO HOME
It appears that Mr Morgan has finally shown his reason for being on TV to be a mouthpiece for gun control. If he is so in favor of gun control perhaps he should return to his native country. His only claim to fame is a judge on Americas got talent well it appears he has none other than to conduct carefully scripted interviews in which he never lets anyone answer a questuion when he asks one. Boycott this bum
again,do these people think crime ,murders,never took place before guns,guns do not kill,there just a tool,300 spartans slaughtered thousands in 3 days with swords and spears
Piers Morgan is too busy hearing himself talk to hear his guests respond. I believe in gun restrictions, and it doesn't help to have someone like Morgan display such ranting and unfairness in his interview. I miss Larry King.
Piers, you were extremely rude to your guest that wrote the book, "More Guns, Less Crime". You came across as ignorant & hateful. You often blocked his answers and attempted to treat him with great disrespect. I personally find most of your interviews to be narrow minded and bigotted against a country you profit off of but show so much disrespect towards. Feel free to leave anytime.
Piers, your treatment of this guest was unfair. Your position on this issue is absolutely incorrect. I come from a family of military and local law enforcement. Weapons are used to keep our country safe and they are used to keep our families safe. Accidents will happen, bad people will abuse them and those are just facts of life. Our lack of immortality is the only sure thing in life. I would much rather see a discussion on the rampant increase in mental health issues that we have in this country and what we are going to do about that.
Thank-you, Piers for trying to send a message to this closed minded idiot, I am afraid it will do no good. Even when they have no answer to why would someone need a weapon that holds 100 rounds, they say the same insane old arguments that are proven wrong with each incident. It was fun to see the argument but sad to know that we are too dumb to do anything about it. I hope his book flops.
what is the difference between 1 clip that holds 100 rounds or 10 clips that hold 10 rounds... there will still be 100 people dead if it is in the hands of a whack job.
the idea that you call people who want to keep there rights dumb,shows your stance,here we are blaming the guns,when the blame is on the man,if there was no guns,he could have simply walked in with a sword,and began slicing his way threw the crowd,and i agree with one point,i carry a pistol on me,i have a liscens,if others who abid by the law would have had there firearms on them,he would have been stopped,regardless of the body armor,we wore body armor in the middle east,yet we took casualties,wonder how,omg,but we had body armor on
Huh, what was his responce? Piers wouldnt shut up long enough for him to respond.
Fun to see the argument?!?! There was no argument. PM did not let him answer the questions. He obviously was afraid he might have a good debate!!
The real debat should be making sticter laws about criminals. One simple law could reduce the illegal guns by 95% and crime by 70%. Anyone caught with an illegal gun get a mandatory sentece of death. Problem solved. These clowns are not worried about illegal guns they want to band all guns so they can turn this county into their dream of Soviet Amerika.
The real debat should be making sticter laws about criminals. One simple law could reduce the illegal guns by 95% and crime by 70%. Anyone caught with an illegal gun get a mandatory sentece of death. Problem solved.
http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp
Take your feeeeeeeeeelings and stuff Em.. These are FACTS
Reminds me of the Planet of the Apes movie where Charleton Heston says he wants a gun to which the ape says "we are going to ape city where they make the finest guns on the planet but the part we are visiting is also the safest part of the city so you won't need a gun" to which Heston replies: "good, but I want one anyway".........
(Wanted to also add this) Don't think education, morals, ethics, or responsibility (aka "values") has nothing to do with it, well here is more proof Mr. Piers Morgan. In 2010 the United Kingdom had a little over 250 deaths from drinking and driving, in the United States we had around 11,000. See a trend there?
Pierce,
I agree with you and Mayor Bloomberg but you got to let the other guy talk! That was a pointless interview. The guy that wrote the book with the goofy eyebrows is who I'm talking about. You never let him make any points. I realize he his probably wrong but how can we learn how the wacknuts think if you don't listen.
I'm done with PIERS. He should return to hisbeloved England full of hooligans and rekindle his relationship with the Murdoch's. He was appalling on his show withe gun author. I am done with him
AS A AMERICAN WE NEED TO CHANGE THE LAWS.THE GUY YOU HAD A INTERVIEW WITH WAS TALKING OUT OF SOMETHING I CAN NOT SAY....I WOULD OF KICKED HIM OFF THE SET. WHERE DID THIS GUY COME FROM. WE DONT NEED GUN TO PROTECT ARE FAMILY THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER WEAPONS WE CAN USE SUCH AS PEPPER SPRAY,BATS,U CAN NAME MORE AND MORE YOU THINK ABOUT IT.EXTRA GUNS......COME ON!!!!
So you are going to use pepper spray against a rober who has a gun? Good idea, you woudn't want to hurt him or anything.
Well Josh, thats called bringing a knife to a gun fight. It realy doesnt turn out to well for the person with the knife.
your the type,if i lived next to you,i would have a sign in my front yard that read
i believe in gun ownership and have guns on the property,i will exercise my right to shoot any trespassers.
my neighbor believes in gun control,so to respect his wishes,i will not use my guns to protect his property from trespassers or robbers
see how that works for you
WAS SAYING IF GUNS WERE BAN!!!!!
I'll make sure to inform my fellow criminals, you are protecting your home and family with a slingshot...
It's just too bad that Piers starts a discussion, but won't let one of his guests make his point. Just because you don't agree, doesn't make him wrong...
Piers, you're opinion is valued but it not the only one that counts...
I thought the point of discussion was to let everyone make their point and then let people decide for themselves based on the opinions presented. When you don't let your guests present their points, you may as well not even bring them on the show.
You might as well just do a show by yourself....since it seems, yours is the only opinion that counts.
too bad...
How ridiculous for Bloomberg to suggest police officers go on strike until there is tougher gun laws. He thinks all those legit gun owners, collectors, lovers, etc. are going to suddenly give them up at the thought of the police no longer protecting them! Leaving only those who have obtained their guns illegally to still have them.. probably not. If there was a police strike I can imagine those who are legit, legal gun owners would only stock up for the unknown. My husband says history always repeats itself, look at countries in the middle east where their governments turn on their own people, time after time. And an irresponsible comment like Bloomberg recommending a police strike, could only be asking for a citizens police state (and in a situation that would surely be destructive, i would probably feel better with some protection from my right to bear arms especially if the police could be going on strike any day...
Sure is a good thing that nobody watches this show any more. Bring back Larry!
Right...otherwise they'd know the truth dude! Piers is right on!! Keep up the good work Piers!!
PIERS... I HAVE NEVER HERD SUCH UTTER CRAP COME OUT OF A PERSON'S MOTHER THAN WHAT I HEARD COME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH... WHERE DO YOU THINK ALL OF THESE PEOPLE GO TO DO THESE CRIMES... IN GUN FREE ZONES OR AREAS... FOR YOU TO MAKE THESE COMMENTS WHEN YOU ARE NOT EVEN BORN IN AMERICA... YOU HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE COST OF FREEDOM IS... ASK THE PEOPLE IN CHINA AND RUSSIA AND NORTH KOREA ABOUT GUN CONTROL... THERE ARE COUNTRIES LIKE SWIT. THAT ISSUE ALL IT'S CITIZENS GUNS AND TEACHES THEM TO USE THEM AND THEY HAVE THE LOWEST VIOLENT CRIME RATE OF ANY COUNTRY... YOU WERE AND ARE NOT INFORMED AND YOU WERE VERY RUDE TO YOUR GUEST ... VERY BAD REPORTING... {MORE OF A REFLECTION OF WERE YOU COME FROM}..
Wow Pierce, that was the first and the last time I ever watch your show. If you would have taken a minute and let your guest respond to your quesitons we might have had a good debate. You sir are a loud mouth bully. Once we needed our guns to kick your limey butts out of our country and I dont think you have gotten over it by the way you acted tonight. This was shameful and you owe your guest a public apology.
by the way: it seems I am so in minority. the vociferous ness of all the replies v a v your 2nd Amendment ( and eg go back to..) explains very clearly why Piers and Dershowitz.had to act that way. hello Cult leaders and followers. An assault weapon ..600O rounds?? Lott : amorally insensitive,Done now. Got the temperature..and it is sad.. For all those who fought for the aggregate intemperate comments. Greatest generation deserved better..
Everyone ban this "permanent resident" and maybe he will leave our free country!!!!!
Well, firing him's a good way to start things. Then once he realizes how much people don't care for his mindless rantings, then maybe yes, maybe he'll pack up and go back home. c:
I just say to Piers Morgan that your journalistic style is so wrong that you should be fired from CNN. You are a terrible replacement for Larry King. The big problem is that you don't know how to hold a proper conversation, and you do not allow the guests on the show to speak their opinions without interrupting them. STOP interrupting when you're guests are speaking, Sir. I wont even start about your political views you speak about on the show, as I believe them to so wrong that I wouldn't know where to begin. My constructive criticism is to talk less and listen more ok.
I never post comments like this, but your interview with the pro-gun author was so incredibly unprofessional that I felt the need make my thoughts known. You and Mr. Dershowitz essential ganged up on the individual who you were 'interviewing." It looked like you set this guy up in order to make him look bad. You only succeeded in making yourself look bad. You would do no such thing to me. If I were in that chair, I would have embarrassed you in a way in which you are not accustomed. As a veteran, you sounded incredibly ignorant when you spoke about guns. Your only defense was to bully your interviewee. Sincerely, Student Veteran @ Columbia U.
Couldn't help notice the dramatic contrast between the interview with the Mayor Bloomberg and the gentlemen who authored the book...one receives thoughtful questions and unlimited time to answer and a running commentary telling him how spot on he is.....while the other receives no serious questions, only cynical, opionated attacks. And in case Piers did not give the pro-gun control point of view enough airtime with bloomberg, he had to have support from the disgraced legal "expert" Alan Dershowitz, who long ago gave up any pretense of impartiality. Both of them ranting, hysterically screaching their guest was "absurd" and "non-sensical" while not letting him answer a single question revealed their blatant bias. Thanks for the fair & balanced interview Piers...Fox gets slammed for their bias, yet you pretend this charade was an interveiw presenting both sides? CNN should be ashamed.
Well said. My sentiments exactly. Even the anti gun folks should have been able to see the bias of this show.
ok enough is enough Piers Morgan on how America laws and how things should be in America. Who are you, your not even an American. I'm sick of hearing how things are done in Great Britain. If you don't like America then don't let the door hit in the ass on the way out. For the record we did do things like Great Britain before July 2, 1776 then smartened up it was called the Declaration of Independence and freedom was born! AMEN
I usually enjoy Morgan's show. Tonight was an exception. His job is to interview his guests and stir up controversy. Tonight it was all Morgan. He would ask the guest a question, and would then talk over him when he tried to answer. Then he brought in the lawyer to help him do the same thing. This was a terrible show with just Morgan expressing his views on gun control. In the future, let the opposition express their views also.
Even if you are going to speak about guns, get your facts right, sir. The civilian AR15 holds 10-20 rounds fired at 1 round for each trigger pull. If you had listened to your guest speaker maybe you would learn something about guns. Even the military version wouldn't fire 100 rounds in a minute. There are soldiers in combat that dont fire 100 rounds a minute..as you say over and over again on your show.
Every time the pro gun guest tried to speak Piers claimed his answers were nonsense. Just because you disagree with someone does not mean their answers are nonsense. I think if Piers, Bloomberg, and the guest attorney think the laws are nonsense they can buy a one way ticket to the UK. I don't want to be limited to having only having a knife in a gun fight. They have legitimate arguments about the loose regulations in the United States, but if you give the government and inch they take a mile. If people allow them to start doing what they want in a few years no one will be able to have a gun.
Very disappointed by Mr Morgan this evening following his interview with the Mayor. He took an attack stance when questioning the next guest about his book. Regardless of the position you take Mr Morgan, if you ask a guest a question, allow him to respond and respect his opinion.
Tonight was the worst interview I have ever seen in my life. It was worse than a Bill O'Reilly interview.
Piers is too biased on his show, he never let the guy who wrote the book on firearms talk, he is pushing his British agenda. Wasn't Piers mentioned as one of the people that tapped into peoples voice mails, but he never admitted it? Tonight showed me how it's abot pushing what he thinks, and allowing only people who follow his ideas talk. I'm done with this guy, he needs to go back to Britain, we don't need his nonsense here in USA. He should stay home and fight for what he wants instead of running to USA.
As a Pierce Morgan fan I was truly disapointed in his interview tonight. Why ask questions without having your guest answer? How rude ! Instead of getting both sides we had to listen to the one sided Pierce rant, while baggering his guest. Is he now stooping to the likes of Glen Beck ? Bring back Larry King or a real american who understands that solution in america can ony by found by promoting participation from all parties.
Here is a question if all the guns are banned what prevent freaks like Holmes from using bombs,fire or poison? ALSO VERY DISAPOINTED.
the media is the last place to get any information on any subject.....let alone letting a foreigner try and second guess our rights as AMERICANS....yea it was tragic what happened but its just another headline to these people.....
Don't know the name of the idiot representing the NRA (the "author") but using Israel as an example of an armed population was another bit of junk science–just more of his crazy talk. Many Israelis carry guns in public because all all Israelis are called up to active military duty as young men and women, and large numbers remain in the reserves. They are expertly trained in the use of firearms, highly disciplined, and subject to extremely stringent regulations about how they can bear, store and use their arms–and they return them to the military when their service has ended. Ask your "expert" if he knows how many incidents of a shooter gunning down random strangers in a public place have occurred in Israel in all of its history. Bravo to Pierce for calling him on his ridiculous justifications for an untrained, undisciplined, uncontrolled armed populace.
let me ask this,which is the point the author was trying to make
you have a choice,2 stores,one is full of un armed people,the other,they all have rifles slung
which store would you walk into to start a fight
another one,you see a person with a pistol on his hip,and one with out,which would you try to rob
dont answer with the well i wouldnt do that ,the point is easy targets,people walk around with rifles,they are not easy targets
the town i live in in kentucky,everyone owns guns,we have no crime,cause if someone is dumb enough to try,they would be shot
so yes,the phrase was use some common sense,but the ones who think gun bans will stop anything
who here thinks a criminal will throw up his hands and go,aaa dam,*kicks dirt* now i have to give up my stolen pistol
I don't recall the statistician saying anything about having an "untrained, undisciplined, uncontrolled populace.... those must be YOUR words because the poor guy never got a chance to speak a complete sentence.
Can tell you have never been, the IDF mandates all citizens at the age of 18 to active service (men for three years and women for two years of service). So before you call someones facts junk science, make for sure you know your stuff before you make your comment. So here, I will help you know the facts, the Interior Ministry handles some 200,000 valid permits for firearms for civilians, and another 140,00 permits for security firms. There is a high percentage of civilians that own a guns!
Only in American can a guy get a job on with a major news organization and pimp off the suffering of others to try to get his poor ratings up!
This is for that idiot lawyer that was on the show tonight! He stated that he has never heard of liberty being fought for with a gun, well you need to go back to school and study the Revolutionary war. That was one of the reason why the 2nd amendment was created. If we had your way of no guns in 1775 and 1776 we would have lost the war and you would be call piers Lord Morgan tonight! Our right to own guns is just not for domestic defense, it's also for foreign defense (I know it's a big if, but our founding fathers knew what they were doing and knew how important mercenaries are)
I'm speechless like the poor guest that I just witnessed. CNN needs to take a hard look at getting rid of this Piers turkey.
Absolutely the WORST Piers Morgan interview EVER!! I don't EVER remember Larry King not allowing a guest to get out a full sentence. I lost a lot of respect for Piers tonight. I almost turned it off, but kept hoping that the whole Alan Dershowitz response was just a gag skit from SNL. Unfortunately, it was real. It's easy to scream "gun control" when you can afford your own security of the government supplies it to you for free." If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."
Very poor interview by Mr. Morgan, he was bullying the pro-gun guest with his own opinions. I believe in gun control but I want to understand the others opinions. Mr. Morgan can't call himself a journalist if he is rude and does not allow a guest to respond !
Piers Morgan, What an intervi... I mean soapbox rant.
To Mr. Morgan and the programming executives at CNN:
After watching this evening's Piers Morgan show, I have decided I will no longer watch CNN. To allow such poor programming to use up valuable air time when you are already struggling as a network is shameful.
Both Mr. Morgan and Mr. Dershowitz grandstanded and bullied the guest to the point of ridicule. An interview show is typically structured with questions and answers. Mr. Morgan made a fool of himself tonight never allowing enough time for his guest to respond.
The most insulting comment was from Mr. Dershowitz, when the guest Mr. Lott asked if he could respond and was told "you've had plenty of time to respond." Mr. Dershowitz presented himself very poorly as well, looking like an angry old man. For you to survive as a network, you will have to respond to your audience.
Don't waste your time posting to this blog or tweeting. I just tweeted: "Guns don't kill people.People kill people. 1 in 300M US Citizens cracks and gun control will solve this? Show was a disgrace" and my tweet was deleted while all tweets favoring his interview remained. Once respected CNN for being able to not "spin" the news and providing a voice for all. Will stick to my sole source "The Economist."
FROM MY POST EARLIER.....IF ALL GUNS ARE BAN TO CIVILIANS A ROBBER SHOULD NOT HAVE A GUN AND QUITE FRANKLY THE ARGUMENT IS POINTLESS. ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF SOMEONE YOU LOVED WAS KILLED BYE A GUN IM SURE YOUR MIND SET WOULD ALSO CHANGE.....LETS THINK WHAT IF.......IS THIS REALLY AMERICA??? THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS SOUND TO ME SHOULD BE MAN AGAINST MAN ONE ON ONE LIKE THE OLDEN DAYS.....HUMMM DOES A GUN MAKE U FEEL LIKE A MAN......???? IF IT DOES YOU ARE A COWARD IN MY BOOKS!!!! GUNS KILL PEOPLE......BULLETS DO!!!
The world doesn't work that way Josh, the world will never be perfect and you will never be able to make it perfect. Criminals will always be able to get what they want, even if you destroyed all the guns, they will just make more. Don't believe me, then go and live in Mexico for just two weeks and then tell me what you think!
Based on the all caps shrieking and sneering, I'd bet you're another "enlightened intellectual liberal".. The problem is, you ladyboys live by your feeeeeeeeeeeeelings and not empirical FACTS.. This may make your mascara run, but read it anyway.. fool
http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp
Unbelievably poor performance tonight Piers. Browbeating Mr. Lott tonight made for a miserable show. Why bother inviting a guest on your show if you won't let the guest speak. Many of your viewers were very interested to hear what Mr. Lott had to say, but instead you wasted their time with your emotional rant. You are not the only person who harbors your feelings, but you are paid very well to be a professional. Act like one.
This was too much! So rude to the guest. I am tired of hearing how inferior the United States is on the Piers Morgan show. It will not be on again in my house.. What has happened to CNN???
Thank you, Pierce. I ask that you forgive the imbeciles that proceed my comment. I too, have, never commented on anything that has aired - either online or on the air. But, tonight's interview/report on the atrocity that occurred on Colorado cannot be ignored. I don't have adequate words to thank you for calling out the absurd premise that more guns = less crime. What kind of idiot would profligate such crap? But what is exponentially sadder is how many American's are buying it. Sadly, there's isn't a politician amongst us with the balls to acknowledge that we do indeed, have a problem. We should be ashamed to call ourselves Americans at this point in our history. We grow stupider with every passing day, and every passing shooting.
I AGREE MELISSA!!!!! WHO IN THE WORLD WOULD EVEN BUY THAT BOOK....IF THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE LIKE US THERE WOULD BE A LOT LESS PEOPLE DEAD
I will give you all the credit in the world if you can name the old time bank robber that said "we only hit the city banks that require the citizens to turn in their weapons". If you really think that criminals are going to obey laws, then your living in a fantasy world. Yet you are right about something, we do have a problem, our nation is unmoral, unethical, and has lost her principles, the reason why you are seeing so many deaths. Not just gun crimes, take a look at drinking and driving deaths, it surpasses gun crimes by an average of 4,000 per year.
Thank you for your thoughtful post, Melissa. Yours is one of only a few posts on this board that called it like it is.
And stupidity does seem like it is spreading like a disease throughout our once proud nation.... when the few leaders who are bravely stepping forward in an effort to address the problem, are called communists and worse. Good taste and balls seem to be in scarce supply!
Amen to that!
http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp
So.. more lib kryptonite.. "FACTS"..
stupider?
Bloomberg and Piers Morgan will both support more gun ownership when police officers and/or their private security are not available.
Piers, you are a real A.S.S.. England is so safe!! Remember Jack the Riper! Go back home! I guess Bloomberg can't hear himself. He first says "Why allow Armor Pricing Ammo since only Police and Law Enforcement are the only ones that wear Body Armor", then he Says "Even if any of the people in the theater had a gun and used it to shoot the Shooter/Killer it would have not done any thing since the Shooter/Killer was wearing BODY ARMOR!" What!!! The Shooter/Killer wearing BODY ARMOR but you said only Police and Law Enforcement are the only ones that wear Body Armor! OK...That's a politician for ya!!!
Well let me tell you this, the Gas Mask he had on would not stop a bullet to the face, no to mention all the other body locations that are not covered by what he had on! I can also tell you that even with protective armor on a, .45 Cal. bullet would knock him clean off his feet after being hit, armor or not. So, just so understand my point, If there could have been any one person, that was armed and trained with a Concealed Carry Permit allowed in that theater with a Gun on them, they would have been able to protect them self for one, and most likely have saved lives and or lessened the number of injured!
I loved Piers tonight.....and also Alan D, whom I have never agreed with .........until now. Sorry guys, this is a topic worthy of heated discussion and it is inconceivable that the guest tonight could attempt to justify his "more guns" agenda at a time like this. More guns leads to more violence, and that is just a fact. Where you find guns in homes, the likely hood of a family member shooting another family member is much greater. This fact was born out in my own family when two brothers began arguing. one ran to his bedroom, got his gun and killed his own brother with a bullet to the heart....leaving 4 children fatherless. If that gun wasn't so handy, maybe that beloved family member would still be alive. We cannot control behavior, but we can attempt to control the availability of lethal weapons, especially semi-automatic weaponry. No one needs to be running around with a AK-47! And EVERYONE has the right to feel safe without fear of being mowed down by some lunatic who claims second ammendment protection! A little common sense here, please! I feel Pier's frustration tonight in trying to make meaningful sense out of such stupidity.
Piers, great show!
Based on hypothesis, one typical licensed gun owner (non-military) sits in a theatre when guy walks-in and starts shooting.
a). is gun owner trained for this event? I ask simply because as a licensed gun owner, I may be able to shoot, but I have never practiced shooting while another sprays bullets in return. Question is, as a licensed gun owner, what would be your reaction if someone was spraying bullets at you? How would defend yourself in this instance?
On the other hand, what if law enforcement entered during duel? Who will LE shoot? The ordinary man or individual with armored equipment? I believe there would be some confusion in the theatre, right?
Clearly, the licensed individual loses.
Well Eddie, to answer your questions I offer this.
a) Yes, he or she may be trained for a similar situation. I am! There are ways you can go train for this, I would highly recommend it! Or if you prefer to just take cover that's up too you. I would have definitely taken action in that situation, and it would have included return fire, if I was allowed to Cary in the theater!
If law enforcement entered during the skirmish they may be confused at first but are trained on identifying and assessing situations. Not to mention, at that time I would be identifying myself and taking cover. Remember the situation here, I have a Small .45 Hand Gun with one clip of ammo and am dressed in civ. clothes, he has two long guns with multi-round clips and is dressed in ballistic armor and is not identified as standard Law Inforcement! have definitely taken action in that situation, and it would have included return fire, if I was allowed to Cary in the theater!
@Ed
@Ed
Ed, I am NOT speaking of outliers, but focusing on average Americans–the 99%–who don't feel the need to carry a pistol while enjoying themselves with friends and family in public places.
Kudos to those with the skills of defending themselves while being sprayed with bullets–keep up the good work!
I would like to think a news angency that I use to respect would have the professionalism to conduct a fair and honest debate on a subject.Piers Morgans opionion tonight was pretty obvious,but unfornately very rude,disrespectful and arrogant to his viewers,not to mention Mr. Lott.I will only watch his program one more time,so I can write down the names of advertisers during his show and inform them that they are wasting their money on his show because my family will no longer watch his program.A friend told me the other day CNN stood for communist news network,tonight I would have to agree.Shame on you!
Thank you Mr. Morgan. Tonight was the first time watching your show and it will be the last time. The bullying tactics that you exhibited were intollerable. I NEVER post on blogs, but I deliberately searched this one out to express my utter disdain for this show and the treatment of its guests. Mr. Morgan, I understand why you are against gun control, as the US would still be a British colony without it. Get over yourself.
The defensiveness of Mr. Morgan and Mr. Dershowitz, along with their complete rudeness to Mr. Lott, follows from a simple fact. If Mr. Lott is right, then they are in part morally responsible for the murders of innocent people who have been legally disarmed. The rudeness by both men drowned out a scream that they dared not let be heard in their own minds, "No! He can't be right!"
There's corruption in the legal forces, one hears about everyday in your local newpapers.
This country is out of control.
Our two party government is never going to agree.
They are too busy putting each other down and blaming the other party for problems they created.
There is no solution in the distant future.
Dershowitz ( a guest) commented, (to the pro gun guest something like) "if you said that in court you woudl be held in contempt and jailed....". Well, actually, in court he would have been able to complete his explantion without interruption!
If Ted Nugent was the pro-gun gest I'll be he would have been allowed to finish what he was saying.
Mr. Dershowitz, as a gun owner, how would I defend myself against an individual spraying AR-15 bullets at me, in a case of extreme confusion, dark and covered with smoke? Kindly explain.
Piers...YOU are Wonderful. I have as of today got 20 people watching you now. You are absolutely right. I and most people I know agree with you. I am an American. I lived in gun free Ireland for a long time. It is free and a democracy. No gun murders when I lived there! America is the laughing stock of the world for our violent agressive gun laws and horrible crimes! Trust me, no other free country in this world wants to be like us. Just read all the papers in the free world. It is embarrassing and just horrible. This country dosn't obviously give a hoot about victims of these tragedies. We have become a frightening society and we are no longer civilized because of the gun lovers. I am for peace. I have wished for peace here my whole life. It seems hopeless. This country will never have peace within, You're right, where is the common sense? Assult guns must be banned. We have become a country where no one trusts anyone, because of the years of violence. Why hasn't someone also talked about the video games the shooter played? He even says in the clip how powerful he feels as a gamer. All of this is pure insanity. If I were you, I would take your family back to England to live free and safer than here! God help all the people raising children in this violent society. It is so sad. And we could all change it if we wanted to. It is clear that few want peace here. I feel so sad for America. I felt the same way back in the 60's with the Viet Nam War where lots of friends were killed....for what? That war had nothing to do with our Freedom. We have all been brainwashed by the NrA and the military that love to fight. God Help us all. Pray and work for peace and justice in this sick country of ours! If we don't change, it will be the end of America,,,why aren't Americans in the streets protesting against the NRA, Why? Because they are so powerful that everyone is afraid of them! Michael Bloomberg is right. Is he the only leader in this country who is willing to stand up? Shame on all of our Congress! I urge all to write to your reps and demand tougher gun laws and stop illegal wars!
Intelligent remarks. Thank you. I'm thinking the NRA has manned this blog tonight....if not, their proud card-carrying members sure have...and THEY do not have a monopoly on America!
So you enjoyed your time in "gun-free" Ireland? So does the RIRA.
Dear Barbara,
you obviously loved your time in Ireland so much so that you completely ignored the severe drug and violence problems, I dont know when and where you were there, but just as a brief heads up in the year to April 2012, there were about 6.4/100K Firearms offences in Ireland (possession or discharging), for those of you who know the difference those are also the Primary Offence figure so it does not include incidents where firearms were used against individuals (murder, attempted murder, aggravated assault etc.) so your assertion that there was no gun crime in 'gun free' Ireland is quite simply wrong.
Just because you have a punching bag in your garage doesn't necessarily mean you can box.
Just because you have a gun doesn't mean you can defend yourself against a lunatic like Holmes.
More guns is NOT the solution. Great show, Piers.
Texan...amen to that!
Texan – And you think that banning guns will prevent criminals from having them? You and your kind need to come down from your 1% ivory towers and join the real world.
John, I never mentioned the word "banning" or "criminals"
FYI, at 22k a year, I probably poorer than you.
IF Piers Morgan is correct in his belief that fewer guns equals fewer gun crimes then we must become aware that fewer keyboards will equal fewer spelling mistakes. Let's protect our students from bad grades.
What a brilliant argument!!! Wow!! Ya know, I just can't seem to understand how people in this country can stick their heads in the sand...Are you all PROUD of the fact that this country TOPS the LIST among industrialized countries for murder rates. And, it's not even close!! Our rate is 5.22/100,000 compared to Germany's .8/100,000. Do the research.
Guns account for a very small percentage of the murders in this country.
Also to compare the US to most European countries is dubious at best. Look at the demographics for Germany and compare it to the US. I'm not saying anything specific, but you might be enlightened.
Thank you piers and cnn. you have finally put the nail in the coffin proving CNN is a joke only worried about ratings and pushing agendas of those whos campaign spends the most with you. do you wonder why your ratings keep dropping? Try reading the comments left and you will see many people like me are just changing the channel with no intention on comming back! Sellouts! Do you even know what a news worthy story is? It is clear you have forgotten your job is to report the truth and facts. oh by the way government should fear you not use you! How much do you make with all the b.s. so called campaign adds? They don't have nothing to do with what "stories"you report do they?
Regardless of the issues involved in this interview, I was struck by
the Unprofessional manner Piers treated Jon Lott in the interview.
He and Allen simply insulted and berated Jon Lott and would not
allow him enough time to present his points.
Thank you piers and cnn. you have finally put the nail in the coffin proving CNN is a joke only worried about ratings and pushing agendas of those whos campaign spends the most with you. do you wonder why your ratings keep dropping? Try reading the comments left and you will see many people like me are just changing the channel with no intention on comming back! Sellouts! Do you even know what a news worthy story is? It is clear you have forgotten your job is to report the truth and facts. oh by the way government should fear you not use you! How much do you make with all the b.s. so called campaign adds? They don't have nothing to do with what "stories"you report do they? ask me you should report the truth and the campaigns should put the millions of dollars they spend paying you to tell one side of the story
This is a good, active debate!
It seems to me, the real question here is: Is the availability of guns and ammunition responsible for a person's behavior?
Morgan, Bloomberg and Dershowitz clearly think so.
Bloomberg also believes large soft drinks are responsible for folks buying them.
A tale of two Aurora, CO shootings. One ignored, one sensationalized. Why? http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/12175-two-aurora-shootings-one-widely-known-the-other-ignored
Gun control? Its obvious that Piers Morgan needs mouth control.
Why bother to have guests on the show? PM could have saved the guy the commute by just yelling at a photo.
Mayor Bloomberg made a very persuasive argument for the ban on assault weapons. We need more gun control just as we a return to more banking regulations. We need to save ourselves. Otherwise, our society will experience anarchy.
One more post...and I will be done.
Dear Piers,
My dad once quoted me an old and very true adage, " You learn nothing while you are talking ".
While you disallowed yourself full knowledge of Mr. Lott's argument, you sadly denied your viewers the information as well. This is not only irresponsible, but viewer unfriendly (as some of the other posts infer). Get better at your job.
Amen!!!
As far as I know most of the time a gun is used in a crime it is not legally obtained. So more laws are not going to stop criminals from getting guns its only going to stop law abiding citizens. Lets also not forget it doesent take much more than some pices of pipe and you can make a pipe gun or a pipe bomb, so so much for fixing your sink. yes you guesed it I do owne guns. I have been around them my whole life and have been taught to be responsible and respect what they could do. I have also had to use them to protech my self and my family. About two years ago I had to stop a armed burglar that broken in while me and my family slept. Luckily I was able to use non lethal ammo. Guess what his gun was illegally obtaind and modified to full auto. So no law stoped him. 911 was called and it took 20 minutes for police to show up, and guess what Bloomberg I live in NY state.
I think the guestion should be how did he get the guns in to the theater in the first place. I dont hear much about that When I go to the movies I see people getting caught sneeking candy and soda in. I guess the theaters are more worried about you having to buy the $6.00 soda and the $10.00 popcorn. Its not like he snuck in with a small pistol. He got in with 2 hand guns a rifle a shotgun, ammo,and tear gas. I realy dont think the problum was how he got the guns its how did he get in with the guns. I think it comes down to edjucation and I hate to say it but guns dont kill people people kill people.
Lets also think about this drunk drivers kill people so maby we should take all cars away.
I'm with barbara on this one. Everyone (minus a few) in these postings obviously heard what they wanted to about the show tonight. Piers wasn't saying take away all our guns, he stated we have the right to have firearms in our homes and for hunting. What he was trying to get Lott to divulge was who in the hell needs a semi-automatic weapon with a 100 round clip. NOBODY. I own my own 12 gauge for hunting, but who knows I might need that semi for that herd of deer that plan to rush me, really? Was Piers showboating.....I'll give you that one.
I was appalled while watching this interview. CNN please fire Piers Morgan.
I strongly agree that gun control is long overdue, but why couldn't you let the guest that you invited to answer your questions? You interrupted every time he wanted to make a point. I really would like to know how someone can defend the "right to bear arms" in the light of recent events. That wasn't what happened on your show.
I agree with Mike, Piers needed to let his guest at least answer the question. I watch Piers all the time and I have never seen him like this. He had his opinion so why did he not just speak it and not have a guest.
It's really inaccurate to attribute crimes committed using guns to lax gun laws. Far too many other variables play a part in these crimes outside of legal access to guns, i.e. education, development of ethics, family experience, etc. In addition to that, where is the logic in claiming that someone who has obviously put this much premeditated calculations into an illegal crime wouldn't procure the weapons, ammunition, explosives, and ballistic protection through illegal avenues regardless of gun control laws? Really? As most of you are aware I'm sure, narcotics laws haven't been very successful. Trafficking into the U.S. is rising at a rapid rate. "But we have laws against that." Yeah, apparently outlaws don't pay attention. Perhaps Piers may need a few courses regarding the psychology of the criminal mind. Laws don't tend to affect it. That's my piece.
Most will agree PM acted in a appalling manner towards his guest interview.
As for a couple of other posters....the question of gun control isn't going to stop someone from killing you. A criminal is going to use anything they can to intimidate and get you to do what they want. The 9/11 attack is a good example. A short range weapon versus a long range, who is gonna win? And wait, the gun jams..oops. I just was pro for both...
A lot of people do not wish to get hurt in any manner. Someone in the the theater may or may not have been able to stop the gunman. If I recall, he exited the building through the emergency door after propping it open to get his gear/guns....so where was the alarm in that case? Might have saved lives or got the police to investigate before he got his stuff.
This part is for you Josh Lowery.....Criminals are as such as they are BREAKING the law. So whats gonna stop them from smuggling a gun or other device? They still will still attempt to kill you if that is their intention. Your arguments would be better if you did 2 things: A) Stop the all caps B) Form a full / spell-checked sentence , it takes a few tries to even understand your post.
For everyone else, I hope justice is served for this horrible tragedy. Hopefully with better awareness for all Americans.
this is a tough topic. My uncle was murdered, shot by someone. I don't want gun control. People have killed each other and will continue to kill each other. I am getting sick and tired of people wanting to ban stuff just because a few cause chaos. People hit people with cars, ban cars. People kill with knives, ban them too. People make bombs with legal substances, ban those also. If they are so worried about this install metal detectors in all businesses. Just because some idiots use weapons to do wrong the majority of people who follow the law has to suffer. It doesn't matter if you have a clip that holds 10 rounds or 100 rounds. A psycho is a psycho. The guest has a good point, most of the massacres happen where there is strict gun laws. Down here in the south, people shoot back. When you know there are less guns then you are more likely to commit a crime. If you are not sure if the people around you are packing you are more apt to be cautious. I have used my pistol to stop a burglary in my house. If I didn't have a weapon who knows how that would have turned out. And shame on Morgan for doing this show about that fool. He is playing right into that guy;s hand by making him famous. If you take away our guns only the criminals would have guns. You really think the criminals will turn in their guns? Child please.
Piers and Alan Dershowitz, I find your behavior absolutely deplorable. Piers, watch the video, you NEVER gave John Lott an opportunity to give a complete answer. With you guys filibustering and talking over him, the man NEVER had a chance. Its behavior like this that makes me not want to watch your program, nor anyone else who partakes in the same idiotic and RUDE behavior that is almost beyond compare. If I was either one of you guys I’d be feeling pretty embarrassed and/or ashamed of myself. With yours and Mr. Dershowitz's prideful and pampas demeanors', you guys probably don't even care about this critique of your conduct, but at least I feel better. And for the record, I agree with some but not all of each side argument.
First I have to say that Mr. Morgan is the worst journalist that I have ever seen! He would ask a question and not even allow time for an answer. What is the point. Also you could tell that he knew nothing about guns, just like most liberals who want them banned. He does not know what makes an assault rifle an assault rifle. For thos of you that think assault rifles are the problem, look at the FBI numbers...4% of violent crimes commited with assault weapons. 4%!!! Do some research if you are going to argue your point, I am so tired of people saying guns are bad just get rid of them, make them illegal. Yea because when the gang members hear that guns are illegal they will just give them up right? Maybe people should look at free speech at the same time as the gun laws huh Morgan. Seems like the socialist media can be just as dangerous as a nut with some guns. Look at all this reporting on these Bio weapons syria has. Where is the proof? The media does not care lets amp people up and go to war...oh wait we might need gun then. Also Morgan dumb argument about England having less murders compared to the U.S.. What is the population of England compared to the U.S.? What a Moron.
If we truly want to have a discussion about gun control, or about any other topic for that matter, we need to allow people to express their opinions, even if we disagree with them. We so need to have discussions in America about topics that concern us all. Mr. Morgan, you are in a position to lead the discussion, and I ask that you use your position to encourage civility and to be civil yourself.
Pertaining to gun laws: Piers Morgan, don't be jealous because England has taken your gun rights away, because that's the reason we fought against England and won our independence. England nor America has the right to take our gun rights. England lost it's battle, but Americans will never let anyone take their gun rights. We start shooting guns when we are children in the South of the United States for hunting and survival. Chatom, AL is one of the safest places to live in America (look it up). Everyone has multiple guns. As far as it's concerned, I don't know why CNN has you, Piers Morgan, on my freaking TV. Go back to England. Do your history. We won the war, don't be jealous. Just because the Feds are owned by England does not mean the people are. Please get off my TV.
Piers Morgan is a tyrant with no brain. nobody watches CNN because of Stooges like him. He interrupted his guest over and over again. If Piers Morgan fought in a war it would be for the Soviets. He is a traitor and a loud mouth with a small d**k.
It seems odd that politicians who have body guards, are able to say that I don’t need a particular weapon to defend myself with; while I don’t own an AR-15, I understand that it like the earlier Garand and M-14 have worked their way into civilian markets. Being that this individual took months to plan his attack on unarmed individuals and had a clean record, what difference would it have made if he bought one gun a month, and only a few hundred rounds of ammunition. I personally prefer buying ammunition online, as it allows me to find what I am looking for at a reasonable price; when I but whiskey I buy it buy the gallon, not because I am going to sit down and drink it all at once, but because it is cheaper, and I will have it around for some time. The notion that because he was covered in body armor, made it so people even if they were armed would have not made a difference seems wrong; if an individual in fear of their life had shot back to defend themselves this criminal might have been stopped earlier, because cowards like him choose unarmed individual’s knowing they will not be able to defend themselves. Those in the media not even a week ago were calling the 71 year old who used a pistol to defend himself and others a hero, and now because of a cowards actions we are expected to believe guns are at fault. My father and grandfather taught me about guns from a young age, but they along with my mother and grandmother taught me more importantly about humanity and morality. A lack of morality is what I feel is at issue sadly in our country, people don’t respect women, children or the elderly like we should, and those like Piers Morgan just drive a wedge in between us by rallying for gun control, when he knows people like myself don’t need or want. Something that makes no sense is how reports and politician’s make it out like those carrying a concealed weapon are some yahoo with no training and are looking to shoot everything and anything, people with CHL’s comprise current military, veterans, retired police, and yes regular Joe’s who passed stringent background checks before ever getting their license.
Amen!
Piers Morgan's interview tonight was very poor. Dispite the facts of the resent days, Morgan seems to believe that anybody that can own a weapon must e some kind of psycopath (or atleast thats how he is portrying himself). Sadly, any meaningful information that might have been shown for a debate was covered up in loud-talk by our host (Morgan).
Many people complain about gun violence in this country, and I'll agree that it's bad in some places. One major thing that our access to guns have limited is organized terrorism. Every now and then we have these sad events that take place, and many other times we have other crims that take place but not highlighted by the media. When was the last time a major (or even) terrorist attack happened here? 9/11 was the last time wasn't it. Sure our law-enforcement is second to none, and that elps out alot, but do you really believe that thats the only reason?
In this country we enjoy the rights to protect ourselves from this type of crime, and it's for that reason that we're not a target by these organized terrorist groups. Sure they'ld love to "get" us, but it's because we can defend ourselves that we're not attacked. Other countries are targeted by these groups. Morgan, remember the IRA?
Regardless of these points I've made, the fact that Morgan was sadly taking advantage of the tragic events to soapbox an issue that he doesn't quantify to the viewers as to his stance on is poor interviewing practices. I can see why Clarkson had issues with him.
At the very least Morgan should make apologies to his guest, and to the viewers of his show for the bad behavoir on his part.
I want everyone to take second to think about the young girl 6 years old few years ago same situation happened please we need to step behind and think about these two young girls.
the media really needs to get their facts straight. a hundred round beta mag in an AR 15 DOES NOT FIRE 100 ROUNDS PER MIN! why would America follow in other countries laws? isnt that what makes us America? Bloomberg and Morgan are both reject from the communist party it appears. also they label 'assualt' weapon.. assualt? the weapon cannot assualt on its own. its the idiot behind it. dont punish others for one persons demonic misguided actions. educate yourself fully on the facts of the firearms. may i remind that civilian hunting rifles such as the remington 700 are also used by the US military for long range applications. disarm law abiding citizens but put a M249 belt fed general purpose machine gun into the hands of an 18 year old and send him to war to protect our freedoms and rights that make us America! our liberties and freedoms and certain past times are what make this nation great. i would be more concerned at the drunken idiot drivers who cause WAY for deaths then firearms. some people like baseball, some like restoring cars, and others like myself enjoy collecting and preserving that 2nd amendment that our fore fathers fought and died for. firearm, knife, brick, etc. if an individual is determined they will find a way somehow. godbless America and Godbless the victims.
I usually enjoy Piers Morgan's show. But I thought the way he ran the interview tonight, not as an interview, but as a second person there to attack the author of the book about gun ownership was not only unfair, but showed that Piers is not a expert an interviewer as I thought he was.
I think that flags should be triggered with someone purchases weapons or ammunition in bulk and that the ATF and FBI should do their jobs more effectively in questioning those who do so, as opposed to their obvious laps that happened with this James Holmes fellow. But if someone wants to do damage, they will do it. How long has heroine and cocaine been outlawed? But anyone who wants to get to those items can get to them. If firearms had been outlawed forty years ago, people who want to do damage could still get weapons.
In my opinion, the steps that should be taken in the wake of the various mass shootings that have happened are these:
1) Outlaw large clips.
2) Have a national database that all weapons and ammo purchases would have to be registered in.
3) Have the ATF and FBI effectively monitor any mass purchases by people who don't normally make mass purchases. Obviously, some people who hunt and sport buy ammo in bulk, and that would be expected of those people over time.
Piers Morgan needs to learn how to refrain from emotional interviewing like he did tonight, and run a well-balanced interview. He needs to take lessons from Charlie Rose and Larry Mantle.
"1) Outlaw large clips."
What's a large clip? More than 10? In any case, I can see your average law-abiding criminal meekly complying. Not!
"2) Have a national database that all weapons and ammo purchases would have to be registered in."
So, if gummint goes bad for some reason, they would know where to go to pry your gun from your dead cold fingers. Else, what good it would do? Would it keep track of criminals' weapons? What? Explain in detail how it would curb the gun crime.
Ammo, now that would create another 'efficient' layer of bureaucracy and gobble up more taxpayer money.
"3) Have the ATF and FBI effectively monitor any mass purchases by people who don't normally make mass purchases."
Oh, so I'll buy 10k rounds for my uncle as a b-day present and the next thing I know, a SWAT team is kicking in my door. Brilliant!
Good gun control ideas? When you find a criminal with a gun, you take it away. When a law abiding citizen wants to buy a gun, you teach him/her the laws and train him/her to use it in a responsible manner. A gun is not much different from a fire extinguisher. Both are rescue devices.
Count me as another individual completely disgusted by the "journalism" displayed by Piers. I will not be turning to CNN in the future for the purpose of obtaining truthful, unbiased knowledge with which to make an informed decision about a particular subject.
By the way, I've jotted down the advertisements run during Piers segment and will be sending a link to these comments to their respective marketing directors. If we can't instigate change by voicing our displeasure here, maybe we can by affecting CNN's pocket-book.