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October 31st, 2012
10:43 PM ET

Michael Moore on climate change and Superstorm Sandy: "This is going to set the precedent"

As much of the United States' Eastern seaboard continue to weather the impact of Superstorm Sandy, this evening "Piers Morgan Tonight" welcomed Academy Award Winning Filmmaker Michael Moore for his patented blend of candid perspective and unique insight.

Joining host Piers Morgan for a live, face to face interview, the man behind such films as "Bowling for Columbine" and "Fahrenheit 9/11" sat in studio, sharing his opinion on everything from global warming and climate change, to the recent revelation of a second New York City hospital losing power and subsequently being forced to evacuate.

Tuesday's program shared the harrowing tale of a group of courageous nurses and doctors who bravely transported 64 patients – including brand new babies – from the NYU Langone Medical Center. One day later, Manhattan's Bellevue Hospital suffered a similar fate, as the National Guard was called in, before damage was deemed too extensive, and an evacuation ensued.

With Moore listening closely, Morgan spoke on the phone to Alan Aviles and begged for answers:

"Is it not your job, of New York City Health and Hospitals Corporation, to think the unthinkable? And isn't this just part of the unthinkable, in other words, a major attack through water?" he asked Aviles. "You're based near the water there, it can hardly be that unthinkable, that it has come in, and has affected your power system, to the extent that you have to evacuate hundreds of people. That is part of your job isn't it?"

"It's very easy, to make that judgement, from a ringside seat. But when you're in the arena and you do have to balance the risks involved in even doing something like an evacuation," explained Aviles. "This has never been experienced here before. We do have back-up systems that are quite robust. There are four emergency generators that are on the 13th floor. We still don't know exactly what occurred in terms of outages to many of the electrical circuits that go through a distribution panel, as well as what happened to the fuel pumps."

A regular guest of the program, Moore, having listened to Aviles, jumped in and came to the defense of the hospitals:

"The infrastructure is set up, the reason why those generators, and the oil and everything, is in the basement, to keep it going, is because New York does have a history of black-outs, but the black-out doesn't actually come into the hospital, from the river. It happens to the ConEd system and those generators were put there so that the hospitals – when we have the black-outs or brown-outs – the hospitals keep going here, and they have," said the Michigan-native with a home on Manhattan's West Side. "No one has experienced this, as he [Aviles] said, before, but what I want to point out, is that when you say it's unprecedented. It may be unprecedented ... but this is going to set the precedent. Because this is what we are going to see."

Watch the clip, and listen to the interview, as Moore, Aviles and Morgan engage in spirited debate as to what went wrong at New York City's hospitals, and what precautions should be taken to avoid a repeat scenario.

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  1. lougarcia

    I have lost all respect for Piers Morgan! Now is not the time to be pointing fingers! His interview with Mr. Aviles was inexcusable! What a shallow person. He will never be Anderson Cooper! Thank goodness for Anderson!

    October 31, 2012 at 10:57 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • dborlando

      I agree with Pierce Morgan on this issue. How the heck does Goldman Sacks and the NYSE manage to open up their businesses, but not Belleview and NYU hospitals???

      November 1, 2012 at 12:37 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • eking

        Maybe because our priorities are a bit twisted. Money is more important than health care in this country. Hospitals are desperate for money for improvements... but it's just not there. Wall St. has deep pockets.

        November 1, 2012 at 11:40 am | Report abuse |
      • Addison

        The big Wall Street brokerage and trading firms have money coming out their wazoo. They have contingency plans for operating in the event of an emergency because NOTHING must EVER stop the global flow and business of money. Hospitals, on the other hand...mehhhh...they only take care of (local) human lives – besides which they must pass the cost on to the patient. No one stands to make money – or, rather LOTS of MONEY – from sick people.

        November 1, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kim

        Goldman Sacks and the NYSE are just better prepared for contingencies.

        November 1, 2012 at 11:46 am | Report abuse |
      • mem79

        It's Goldman Sachs, not Goldman Sacks.

        November 1, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • Really? REALLY?

        @ eking Aree you serious? Hospitals hurting for Money? What are you smoking? Granted, they do not have the money or power of Wall Street, but they are not hurting for money. There are more Hospitals popping up left and right than any other time before. You do not open more if they are hurting for money.
        Hospitals do not plan for disasters like Financial companies do. Sorry that is a fact.

        November 1, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • Leif

        Eking, you nailed it. Capitalism is not fully compatible with a moral code based on empathy. It is the job of humanity to find a balance between these two forces.

        November 2, 2012 at 5:39 am | Report abuse |
    • Richard

      Amen. Piers' hostility was unwarranted and absolutely ridiculous. You can't build a hospital or any other facility to cover every possible natural disaster for all time!

      November 1, 2012 at 12:44 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • lisa blum

        I have also lost all respect for Mr. Morgan.To berate Mr. Aviles is just not acceptable. When a catastrophic disaster of this magnitude happens, it is such a turn off to see one another pointing fingers . Shame on you Mr. Morgan, for not commending these professionals in taking such great care in their patients. Maybe you will come to your senses one day,if god forbid, you lay vulnerable in a hospital bed and rely on these people to tend to your every need. I will no longer watch your show. I believe Micheal Moore could fill your seat with much more compassion and getting the facts straight!!!

        November 1, 2012 at 11:28 am | Report abuse |
      • Meg

        Richard I could not agree with you more. I understand that Piers had questions, however, the manner in which he asked was inexcusable. This situation is unlike anything before. What does he not get?? Absoloutely NO ONE could have predicted this would happen. Yes one can do everything in there power to guard against such things but THIS??? I actually had to turn it off for awhile because he just wouldn't shut up...... And to compare that the lights were on in Goldman Sachs.... I mean come on....... Stuff happens in life and sometimes there is no answer. It's easy to target something like Goldman Sachs and all that they represent, however, if they didn't get flooded or they were on a different grid then they get to keep their lights on-it's that simple. Hopefully many things will be learned to make everyone that little more prepared for the future becuase that's all you can really do.

        November 1, 2012 at 3:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lorraine

      Piers Morgan has he been drinking. Why is he picking on a health care professional? No class? In an emergency everyone knows look after yourself and your family and let emergency crews look after the sick.

      November 1, 2012 at 12:46 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kimber Reddick

      Time to find a new host CNN. Larry King he is not. It's all about him. His guest can't even talk, because he has to be spouting his brilliance at all times.

      November 1, 2012 at 2:05 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • m.snow

      Piers is out of line to attacking Mr. Aviles and I probably won't watch the show again. It's sensible to ask what measures were taken in preparation and why they didn't work, but it's outright disgusting to attack with zero understanding of the situation. Secondly, I also agree with Moore that it is absurd to have reporters standing in hurricane conditions to give "live" coverage. It's quite sad actually watching three reporters constantly "pass-the-mic" repeating themselves. Moore was presenting the idea of tapping social media for REAL live news.

      November 1, 2012 at 4:01 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • valerie

      Piers Morgan was shameful last night. He interrupted every guest and imposed his opinion on everyone. He was argumentative and arrogant!!!! Michael Moore by contrast was polite and brought out viewpoints that were relevant and important. Bring back Larry King or just get rid of P. Morgan-he is an abomination.

      November 1, 2012 at 8:02 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Tim Sullivan

        I'm with you, Valerie. How does an entertainment figure all of a sudden become a building engineer?

        November 1, 2012 at 11:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Jsorensen

      I long for the days of Larry King. Mr. Morgan should realize Larry King was so successful because he LET HIS GUESTS TALK. Mr. Morgan spends most of his time butting into his guest's reply and hearing himself talk. I would like to hear what the guest has to say, not Mr. Morgan. Mr. Morgan asks a question and then proceeds to answer it himself by butting into his guest's answer constantly and then says its time to move onto another subject. Why, oh why won't he just ask a question and let his guest finish a sentence. I tune in to hear what his guests have to say. Let them talk.

      November 1, 2012 at 10:02 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • nnnn

      IIt would sure be nice if you were more like Michael Moore. He was genuine and nice. You are always so arrogant.

      November 1, 2012 at 10:28 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • matt

        you are being sarcastic about Michael Moore being nice, aren't you?

        did you see the nasty, vile, campaign ad he did for Obama on Monday, which uses old people to swear and threaten violence against Romney? THAT is Michael Moore.

        November 1, 2012 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brad76

      Alot of people find him to be disdainful and patronizing. He's a smart man and he brings up some good points at times, however he needs to work on his demeanor.

      November 1, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • matt

      How is it that the biggest news about Michael Moore didn't even get asked about?

      Michael Moore produced an Obama campaign ad on Monday in which he has old people say things like "burn this m'fer down".. and "..i'm gonna c*** punch Mitt Romney"

      This is why CNN has almost no viewers anymore. They are not reporters or journalists. They are propagandists for the left.

      November 1, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Leif

      @Really...etc. How exactly did "financial companies" plan for the disaster which they helped create?

      November 2, 2012 at 5:42 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Marilyn

      For the pass two days, Piers has been so bent on making trouble for the NY hospitals! I couldn't believe it.
      There's no doubt in my mind that he WANTS controversy in this matter.

      November 2, 2012 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  2. Jeff

    The victims of hurricane sandy need more useful news on tv, the radio, Internet on how to survive now. Where can they find open food stores, gas stations, shelter, etc... Please focus our efforts on what we have to do now to HELP. The news media can point fingers after. NOW is the time to HELP.

    October 31, 2012 at 11:12 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • cynthia

      I agree with Jeff – more info is needed for people on how to come together and survive and acquire resources. To encourage people to be patient and resilient. Piers is being very reactive and reality he is as traumatized as any other human being who has survived this ordeal. He is also over identifying as a new father and his attacking isn't helping the overall situation. Now is the time for all to come together; not pull each other down. Best to be calm and humbled by the magnitude of mother nature.

      November 1, 2012 at 12:40 am | Report abuse | Reply
  3. mememine69

    Romney and Bush laugh as we fear monger our own voting base over to the Tea Party by our condemning of the voter’s children to the greenhouse gas ovens of a climate change crisis. Nice work girls. Can we move on please?
    “Climate change IS real because we must be doing something to the planet.” isn’t science, it’s blind ignorance and science has yet to ever say it “WILL” happen, the IPCC only says it only “could” and “might”……despite being at the brink of no return, maybe.
    Science gave us pesticides don’t forget and real planet lovers welcome the good news of a crisis being an exaggeration after all.

    October 31, 2012 at 11:25 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • George

      Spokien like a true Republican–with absolute disregard for your own accountability. It is your greed and drive to win at any cost that encourages science to push forth things prematurely. You want instant gratification and miracles, but you aren't willing to pay. Guess what? You don't have a choice. I suggest re-reading that Bible you thump so hard and learn to listen when God speaks.

      November 1, 2012 at 4:12 am | Report abuse | Reply


    October 31, 2012 at 11:54 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • dborlando

      I agree... enough with all the excuses, and take accountability. But, kudos to the hospital staff for all they're trying to everything possible to make the most of the situation!!!

      November 1, 2012 at 12:33 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • George

      I suppose they should plan ahead and install shielding to guard against a catastrophic meteor impact too? Get real.

      November 1, 2012 at 4:15 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Alice Elder

      I totally agree. Don't you think that is myopic to put your generators on the 13th floor and your fuel in the basement? Even if there was no flooding, what about pumping that fluid to the top? I am no scholar on this but that is ridiculous.

      November 1, 2012 at 11:05 am | Report abuse | Reply
  5. Joanne Smith

    Michael Moore is 100% right. I am from Rockaway, I lived through Sandy. I see my home destroyed. I will send you pictures. The only thing we here in Rockaway begged for was news of our home. Direction to what was going on. All we got on the radio and the bits of tv we got was about New Jersey. Bloomberg could care less about rockaway, he basically said hopefully we learned a lesson. News is for the TriState area, not the New Jersey area because the president and Christie are playing nice. Get some help and some coverage of Rockaway, Broad Channel and Breezy Point. Enough with Christie and his home town. Michael Moore, I will take tour on a personal tour of our home.

    November 1, 2012 at 12:24 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • SteveKJR

      Sounds similar to Katrina doesn't it – the only difference is that with Katrina Bush was to blame – Michale Moore blames global warming – wow – hope Michael helps you out

      November 1, 2012 at 12:59 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • RDB

        Ummm, hellooooo – nobody is saying Katrina was President Bush's fault.

        The criticism against President Bush was based on the DELAY in the mobilization of help. I repeat – it was the slow response time that garnered criticism. Conversely, President Obama has been repeatedly prasied by Governor Christie for his expedience, which I can see would be a Republican's worst nightmare.

        That you (and those like you) would wilfully choose to ignore the distinction is telling.

        November 1, 2012 at 2:50 am | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      Sorry to hear about your house. We'll be doing some fundraising to funnel money to storm victims. Hope some of it makes it to you.

      November 1, 2012 at 5:59 am | Report abuse | Reply
  6. dborlando

    I strongly agree with Michael Moore's criticism about seeing CNN reporters standing in 3ft of water, or on a resort pool deck covering news for hours on end, while there's more noteworthy stories to be covered. Pierce Morgan says that these reporters are incredibly brave. I think they're incredibly stupid. This type of shallow reporting is both cliche and irritating.

    November 1, 2012 at 12:30 am | Report abuse | Reply
  7. Sefkhet

    Heaven help Piers! Michael is on point. CNN was utterly ridiculous having those reporters out there in the storm. I would give anything to not see one more rain battered reporter. I turned each time they put one on. AND, Piers please stop talking over the words of your guests! Finally, the delayed response to major events happening in NY metro area is very close to unacceptable.

    November 1, 2012 at 12:38 am | Report abuse | Reply
  8. RShenoy

    Piers really needs to 'get off the hospital administrators backs' and stop with the blaming and criticism! He needs to focus on the incredible work done by those two hospitals in NY.

    November 1, 2012 at 12:40 am | Report abuse | Reply
  9. Maqsood

    Pier absolutely right this is the job of president of hospital system to prepare for the worse condition. This is what he is paid for. If not prepared mean not fulfil the job.

    November 1, 2012 at 12:40 am | Report abuse | Reply
  10. Harold Shine

    Piers get over it stop being so combative, you never let anyone finish what thier saying I for 1 am tired of it . Now as what happened were they supposed to be ready for WW3? That is not in the picture, This storm was the 1 that we never thought could happen, due to the fact that our politicians don't believe in global warming or climate change. Now your A Brit would you be as combatative with England given the same issue? The last storm I saw like this was the "Perfect Storm" I was in it . We have a Big problem but your not helping by being so anti & combative. If I owned CNN you would have been fired long ago.

    November 1, 2012 at 12:42 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • SteveKJR

      Hey, when Katrina hit it was Bushes fault – why isn't this Obamas fault – Oh wait he is the Great one – it's global warming fault.

      November 1, 2012 at 12:53 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • George

      As a fellow Brit, I was quite disappointed when I first saw his "performance" on CNN. Like Erin Burnet, he came off as an ignoramous while being touted as a genious. Both began performing more intelligently for a little while, but plug in the political storm and they both went right back to stuck on stupid. Playing devil's advocate doesn't mean being combative. Frankly I'd change the channel, but the alternatives are C-Span and Fox News–one putting on the most boring show to appease the masses, the other bent on promoting ignorance and intolerance.

      November 1, 2012 at 4:21 am | Report abuse | Reply
  11. jkraft

    We have been global warming for the past 1 Million Years. We will be global warming for the next millennium. Oh, I agree with NOT sending reporters into harms way for our viewing pleasure.

    November 1, 2012 at 12:44 am | Report abuse | Reply
  12. SteveKJR

    it's interesting to note that Michael Moore blamed "global warming" for NJ/NY not being prepaired, but when Katrina hit it was Bushes fault. He is a moron.

    November 1, 2012 at 12:51 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Scott MacLeod

      Thank you! Too bad the average person in this country thinks Michael Moore is some sort of guru for the left. I agree that he is an idiot as well as a moron.

      November 1, 2012 at 12:55 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Russ Wetherill

      I thought Piers Morgan dropped the ball during this interview with Michael Moore. When Michael Moore asked the rhetorical question: "Do you really want to take a chance that this isn't Global Warming?" He means anthropogenic global warming (AGW), by the way. My reply would have been: "Do you really want to take a chance that storms sucha as Sandy aren't AGW, and really are either: 1) not global warming at all (sampling, modelling errors); 2) global warming from natural and not human sources; or, 3) a product of a once in a thousand years combination of weather patterns?

      In all three cases above, you have squandered trillions of dollars ineffectually attacking perfectly good windmills that were minding their own business. Instead of punishing producers with a carbon tax, money could be spent to build better sea walls, bury power lines, or generally deal with more immediate, and real, crises.

      Does Michael Moore really want to take a chance that the earth will warm and the seas will rise despite all the efforts of the GREEN MACHINE? What will they tell us then? Probably that we didn't start soon enough, or that we didn't cut back deeply enough on our sinful ways. If this sounds a lot like religion, well...

      You see, facts matter. Rational, defensible, and verifiable (independently) facts are the basis of a sound decision making process. Here are the facts: 1) the earth is warming, 2) there isn't sufficient evidence to know why.

      Continuing the religion analogy: we are born, we live, we die. There isn't sufficient evidence to know why. Whenever there is a vacuum in knowledge, morons like Michael Moore are literally sucked into the void. They make stupid statements like "Do you really want to take a chance that the sun isn't revolving around the earth? You must worship me and buy my latest book, it's on Amazon.

      November 5, 2012 at 4:30 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  13. dennisearlbaker

    In my opinion

    We need to replace the fossil fuel power plants, the primary source of GHG. Now!

    At a scale required to accomplish this task :

    Ethanol starves people : not a viable option.

    Fracking releases methane : not a viable option.

    Cellulose Bio Fuel Uses Food Land : not a viable option

    Solar uses food land : Not a viable option

    Wind is Intermittent : Not a viable option

    All Human and Agricultural Organic Waste can be converted to hydrogen, through exposure intense radiation!

    The Radioactive Materials exist now, and the Organic waste is renewable daily.

    Ending the practice of dumping sewage into our water sources.

    Air, Water, Food and Energy issues, receive significant positive impacts .

    Reducing illness / health care costs as well !

    Dennis Baker
    * Creston Avenue
    Penticton BC V2A1P9
    cell phone 250-462-3796
    Phone / Fax 778-476-2633

    November 1, 2012 at 12:51 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • SteveKJR

      Well then you need to get rid of everything you own because everything you own comes from Fossil Fuel

      November 1, 2012 at 12:56 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • dennisearlbaker

        No , I am talking about the primary source of GHG
        The fossil fuel powered electrical generating facilities

        November 1, 2012 at 1:40 am | Report abuse |
  14. Leonardo Ledesma

    Many, many years ago, St. Lukes Hospital in Houston experienced the same problem during a hurricane. All their power generators drowned in the basement and they lost power. After that experience, they relocated all their power generators on a middle floor of the building... and on top of that, they hire a mobile generator on an 18-wheeler as a backup during hurricane conditions. It has become a standard in all hospitals in Texas. It is inconceivable that any hospital administrator hasn't heard of this. To plead ignorance in the light of what happened in NY is pure hokum.

    November 1, 2012 at 12:56 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • SteveKJR

      It is Bushes fault – same thing happened with Katrina – I heard that the generators in one hospital was shut down because the cool water pumps for the generators were in the basement and when it flooded they shut down – Bushes fault – not because of Obama – or as Michael Moore said – Cause and effect – global warming. Yah, Right!

      November 1, 2012 at 1:04 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • RDB

        Ummm, hellooooo – nobody is saying Katrina was President Bush's fault.

        The criticism against President Bush was based on the DELAY in the mobilization of help. I repeat – it was the slow response time that garnered criticism. Conversely, President Obama has been repeatedly prasied by Governor Christie for his expedience, which I can see would be a Republican's worst nightmare.

        That you (and those like you) would wilfully choose to ignore the distinction is telling.

        November 1, 2012 at 2:48 am | Report abuse |
  15. Furley

    Piers – this event was completely foreseeable. Several years ago, the medical center area in Houston, Texas was plagued by persistent flooding, more recently Katrina had a devastating impact in New Orleans. At NYU Langone, they are attempting to correct obsolete designs by replacing existing buildings and renovating existing spaces. As the Director of IT Facilities Planning at NYU Langone until July, 2012, I saw first hand the challenges of maximizing the design of spaces to support the changed environment. The FAR rules in NYC limit the amount of square footage that can be built and anything placed above grade competes with clinical, research and donor funded initiatives for space. Infrastructure space carries the same weight in the equation as any other space when above grade. Moreover, the greater challenge in renovating existing space and "making room" above grade is that infrastructure covers an entire building and frequently, space constrained organizations are forced to do renovations a little bit at a time.

    I give great credit to Vicki Match Suna for her commitment to building new buildings in the existing NYU Langone Medical Center, with each designed to support the needs of the future. However, it cannot be done in a year or two, it is a long term project and by 2017, you will see a very different environment than you see today. I hope NYC and NYU continue to press forward in designing world class spaces that are the envy of hospitals across the nation.

    Furley Lumpkin

    November 1, 2012 at 1:19 am | Report abuse | Reply

    I hated you for tearing down the authorities involved with the evacuation of patients from New York Hospitals. How could you sit on a soft chair, in a warm well lit room and take the pants down of those courageous people who are braving the unprecedental clamity. Have you ever been out in the winter rain with only some shreds on you back? Try it once, you may develop some respect for the pain and suffering of other people.

    November 1, 2012 at 1:53 am | Report abuse | Reply
  17. Norma Akins

    I was so very disgusted with Pierce Morgan taking the hospital president to task for not being prepared for something that has never happened before and was never expected to happen until now. He was being rude and totally unreasonable. And the way he (just like a lot of TV interviewers) kept interrupting the man and talking over him was so maddening!! How can CNN think that he should be retained on their team? How about asking the city of New York why in the world they built the subway system 103 years ago without realizing that they could be flooded like they were for the first time now? Like some of the comments earlier, why can't the expensive TV time be used during this time for something important like giving out information to help all the people who so desperately need it instead of Pierce acting like He could have prevented this horrible natural disaster - if HE had been in charge?

    November 1, 2012 at 1:56 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Richard

      Piers Morgan was so obnoxious last night it was a disgrace.

      While I agree with him about the hospital ... it was not the best of planning, Piers would not let anyone get a word in!!!

      All he did was argue!

      And Michael Moore, I agreed with too, but Piers just shut him up. Incredibly rude to his guest; had I been Moore, I would have thrown the mike back and told him to shove his pompous ass!

      I'll never watch Morgan again ... time to replace this narcissistic Brit (I am not a xenophobe) with anyone else ... Larry King, we miss you!

      November 1, 2012 at 11:54 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ann Marie

      NYU and Bellevue hospitals have emergency preparedness plans for all foreseeable and unforeseeable natural and terrorist events. Their buildings can be sustained during tsunami, earthquakes, bio-chemical attacks etc. To say that they couldn't predict this is inaccurate. They were not ready to handle the situation is the right answer.

      November 13, 2012 at 7:19 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  18. CDougherty

    I would ask that CNN replace Piers Morgan. He's an embarrassment. Tonight, interrupting, questioning the NYC health official Mr. Aviles, not letting Mr. Aviles or Michael Moore finish their sentences. Acting as though it was Mr. Aviles fault the pumps failed. Yes, thank heavens for Anderson Cooper and the other level headed journalists/reporters. I miss Larry King. Piers' first mistake with me when he first started was asking Oprah what gumbo was, proud of the fact that he's British and doesn't know. I groaned. We just want the straight level facts, not his ego.

    November 1, 2012 at 2:32 am | Report abuse | Reply
  19. Addison DeWitt

    Piers is an idiot regarding the presentation of the storm via the media. Piers: you claim showing a reporter being socked by waves should be enough for the masses to know that the storm is dangerous and that everyone should be safely inside some refuge. YOU IDIOT! Don't you understand that the mere act of showing a human surviving adverse conditions on TV and Cable essentially DARES a sizable segment of the viewers to do the same???? You know what? By broadcasting how a human reporter IS surviving the storm's onslaught, CNN is sending out the REAL MESSAGE: "It's not that dangerous – if it was, this reporter would be dead by now." Jeesh Piers, no wonder the media is sooooo out-of-touch with reality and the reality of the viewers.

    November 1, 2012 at 3:27 am | Report abuse | Reply
  20. George

    Let's pretend you are among the ignorant Michael referred to. Hath not God spoken? When will the Right listen to reality smacking them in the face. You don't have to believe in science to get this message. Your meteoroligist needs to go back to school, and frankly so do the Republicans. I saw this weather system coming last winter because of obvious climate patterns. I even warned my sister who lives there to watch out, especially after this unseasonably warm summer. It is historically unprecedented, and will leave a geological fingerprint unmatched since the last ice age or the weather system that nearly wiped out the Clovis people 10,000 years ago. How he can say this can be anything other than global warming... Seriously? Michael is right: this is the new standard so long as we don't take responsibility for our actions. The right thinks they can repent on their death beds and everything will be fine. Get real and be accountable! I can't believe you went to school in Europe and are so ignorant that Americans can see it!

    November 1, 2012 at 4:01 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Steve Stout

      So please explain why piers corbyns solcentric climate predictions accurately predicted Brittains worst winter AND the three cold winters preceding when the MET office with all the intelligence of East Anglia backing them predicted balmy winters each time? It's because It's not a science yet. Piers Corbyn, SELLS his predictions because they work. There is no "the model" of the climate. Only tens of thousands of different ones produced using different variables. Then when something happens they dig through the giant stack of science fiction, pull one out and say "See?!" They produce no useful predictions which is the measure of good science. You probably don't recall their failed NOAA ACC based prediction of the 2006 hurricane season. f they want to make a case that Sandy is due to Global Warming or other anthropogenic climate change then they need to have accurately predicted the event. We're wasting time on anti-scientific practices that provide no useful predictions when we could really be getting a handle on climate. You may not like Corbyn, but what we need to see is predictions as specific as his from the ACC community.

      November 1, 2012 at 5:40 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • Martin Gordon

        Piers Corbyn doesn't forecast weather – he guesses, if he guesses right he goes on and on about it, if he guesses wrong he keeps quiet. A con as old as the hills!

        November 9, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
  21. worldcares

    My thoughts and prayers go ou to the people on the east coast.

    November 1, 2012 at 4:41 am | Report abuse | Reply
  22. Steve

    Mashnich and Baskirtsev will get their 10k. It's the big yellow thing in the sky. Even if mankind were affecting climate to the extent claimed, it would make a lot more sense to review the affect we have on water and water vapor than carbon as water vapor accounts for around 70 percent of the greenhouse effect and carbon dioxide around 20% with mankind producing only about 5% of the total amount of atmospheric co2. The carbon emission associate particulates we produce are having a big affect on cloud cover and we're constantly damming up rivers and producing greater water surface area for increased evaporative effect. Seems to me like we're wasting time on co2 if we really want to get a strong handle on climate.

    November 1, 2012 at 5:28 am | Report abuse | Reply
  23. Greg

    I am in public place in Taiwan that has the show on. I can't think of to bigger fools to discuss America globally. Neither has a clue

    November 1, 2012 at 7:35 am | Report abuse | Reply
  24. SHW

    Morgan is the biggest fool on television today. He is an embarrassment to CNN. I stopped watching him months ago and today I turned on his program to see if he has become " smarter and less arrogant " . To my disappointment, he is still a man without any knowledge on the subject and worst of all , he thinks he know it all. He asked Mr. moore if there was any motivation behind about Obama and Christie working together to help the victims . Let's embrace the positive things not to question the motivation. They both look very sincere to me and are doing their job as president and governor. Mr.Morgan if you are one of the victims you would be glad they came together to deal with this disaster.

    November 1, 2012 at 8:21 am | Report abuse | Reply
  25. rose macaskie

    Piers Morgan. MIchel Moore says that of the people who wont vote, a majority of them are Obama voters.
    There are disappointed people, who dont want the right in power but who would restrain from voting just to punish their candidate. I would like to say that they can do this in any other moment but a crisis, look how badly austerity has worked in Europe and it is austerity that republican want to put in place, the paying back your debt instead of stimulating your economy line. People cant afford to express their anger at their own party in a crisis, they cant in this crisis afford to do anything that would bring the right in to power.
    Another reason not to vote for the right is that among the other theories that have been and still are popular among such people, theories such as privatisation, breaking the unions, and deregulating industry, especially the financial industry, there is the idea that you should use moments of crisis to implement unpopular measures such as all the above and reducing the wellfare state because you can then claim that as it is a crisis, special measures are necessary and as in a crisis people are more likely to agree to take it in the throat, they accept the neceessity of suffering to get them out of the crisis, so to do anything that makes it more likely that the republicans will get in power in a moment of crisis and at this moment in the history of political ideas, is to bring on your head an avalanche of anti-social mmeasures, to bring about a lot of them in a short space of time. rose macaskie madrid.

    November 1, 2012 at 8:40 am | Report abuse | Reply
  26. GWAZ

    Wow. Pierce was getting slammed by both of his guests! Aviles had solid and obvious answers for questions that were made to stir up controversy. I think Morgan thought he could ask him the same question 4 different ways (but he kept getting the same reasonable answers). My favourite part was when Aviles said that if he evacuated early and spmething tragic happened then he'd be questioned about that.....he obviously knows the media well and didn't put up with his crap. Then Moore slams him (and the station) for throwing reporters outside in water instead of covering the real stories....couldn't agree more. If a news reporter dies then Morgan should be interviewed with the same questions.

    November 1, 2012 at 8:57 am | Report abuse | Reply
  27. Giggles

    I was amazed that Morgan did not ask Moore about the ad on the web with the very elderly lady calling Mitt Romney a "mf". I know he is having Moore back on his show tonight, but he asked him other questions about the election–of course all were to paint a positive light on Obama. I really did not expect anything different. I am not saying Moore posted the ad with Obama's approval, I don't know. The group that posted the ad IS a strong supporter of Obama!!!

    November 1, 2012 at 10:26 am | Report abuse | Reply
  28. ED

    Fat boy (Moor) go f***** you salf whit Soro d*****.

    November 1, 2012 at 11:12 am | Report abuse | Reply
  29. lymegate

    Cost-Benefit Analysis and Risk Assessment

    Mr Aviles said "you do have to balance the risks involved in even doing something like an evacuation,"

    I think he left out the other part of what a CEO has to pay attention to--cost-benefit analysis. If a 'risk' (Sandy) has never occurred before-– then 'it will never happen' and why change things that will cost a lot of money? That's the mind-set.

    I'm pretty sure that the COST of making forward thinking changes over-rode the BENEFIT and the patients had to be moved.
    Never-the-less, the nurses and other employees did do a great job evacuating the patients. The kudos belong to them.

    November 1, 2012 at 11:35 am | Report abuse | Reply
  30. Fourleaf Tayback

    Michael Moore is a gigantic fat pig. He is revolting to look at and he has no talent. Big fat pig.

    November 1, 2012 at 11:41 am | Report abuse | Reply
  31. Richard

    A hospital should have the same disaster response as a level 1 data center.

    Quarterly, take the hospital off the grid, to the point that the tanks are refilled 2-3 times.


    November 1, 2012 at 12:00 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  32. P.V.

    This Limey !!! is a hatchet man sent in just for the election, to crow for the democrats cause and he´ll soon fade away.
    I can´t believe I agreed with M. Moore, what cnn showed us the other night was not news... they missed the real news.

    November 1, 2012 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  33. lymegate

    A trustee of NYU Hospital "[...] told Bloomberg that the backup generators were “not state-of-the-art and not in the most state-of-the-art- location”, and said, “that’s all very well known by the board of directors of NYU”."

    He also stated "the hospital’s board of directors knew their emergency generators were outdated."

    It's been said by the hospital that they 'weren't prepared for the level of flooding' that Sandy brought about. I'm pretty sure that the warnings were quite clear that this would be a flood of immense proportions. Right?

    November 1, 2012 at 12:34 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  34. Mark Bernadiner

    It is always interesting to hear opinion of this person with quationable education and elementary school knowledge in the subject.

    November 1, 2012 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  35. lymegate

    I agree that repeated shots of a reporter standing knee high water, over and over, isn't complete coverage of the storm. I do have to say that he was 'doing his job' and I didn't envy him.

    Where (and for how long) a reporter stands to 'report' has many factors. First, once the lights/trucks/generator and all the other equipment needed for those few minutes we see on TV are set up-- it takes a LOT of effort and time to move to another location. Other locations may not be as readily accessible. Too dangerous, such as the Breezy Point fires. No permission granted, if it's on private property. Getting from Point A to Point B, in this event, can NOT be as simple as just driving there during a SuperStorm.

    November 1, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  36. Sherry Cooper

    Great comment from Sally...exactly my opinion. Why doesn't Piers allow his guests to speak instead of talking over the top of them so often. Just when a guest is making a point, Piers interrupts. Was Larry King right when he said Piers didn't have anything to offer on his show....I watch because King and Morgan have interesting guests...when the show becomes an opinion forum for the host, I am not interested and is why I don't watch FOX

    November 1, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  37. Skyraider

    Michael Moore is such a fraud, a farce, and sad sad person. Of course there's global warming and climate change, but not at the hands of man. It is cyclical, and has been going on for millions of years. Experts in the field have tested ice core samples that have been gathered and saved as far back as 150 years ago, and as technology has gotten better so has the information gleened from these samples. These long tubes of preserved ice shows the amount of gases, carbon, and other molecular material that shows in the last 750,000 years our earth has experienced over 600 major global warming and cooling cycles, and most interesting is that they lasted between 100 to 1000 years or more. Guess what Mr. Moore, you and I just may be living through a global warming period and we'll both be dead before it starts going back the other way. Al Gore knows this is true, and this is the exact reason many of us were so upset that he did not put it in his book, "Inconvenient Truth". If he had, there would have been no book, no tours, and most of all, no millions of dollars coming into his coffers!

    November 1, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • lbpaulina

      OK, you are right that climate changes are cyclic, but, unfortunately, it is the frequency and the speed of these cycles that worry the scientists. Scientists do not only worry for changes that occur during one human life span, they are generally interested in spans of centuries. Any dramatic change of the Earth doesn't occur all of a sudden, but it is always announced by some signs. What happened in NY is one of these. Think that last summer the ice cap of the North Pole melted reaching historic levels. The causes were to be found in the increasing global temperature of the Earth.

      November 1, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  38. lymegate

    "New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn expressed her concern over NYU Langone Medical Center's generator failure during Superstorm Sandy."

    "There are obviously enormous questions that NYU needs to answer," voiced a concerned Quinn."

    November 1, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  39. lbpaulina

    Come on! Poor Piers Morgan! He is very and absolutely British. Very proud of the British Royals, of the British health care system (far worse than the French system, sorry), proud of "Britain's got talent", and after writing three volumes of memoirs (at 47?), he landed at Larry "Piers Morgan tonight." We all know that the English think of the Americans like of a sort of Barbarians, and he is not an exception. He thinks that everything works far better in the UK, although he works here. How come?
    He has a positive aspect though: he makes everyone sleep, fact that works far better than any pill...try it!

    November 1, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • John Q Public

      Thank you, and who gives a **** about the royals? That's why we have our own nation here, to get away from them. If Morgan likes it, then let him move back and take his venom with him.

      November 1, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse | Reply
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  41. John Q Public

    The only global warming that's taking place in the world is the hot air coming out of the mouths of these two. Add in all the times Al Gore opens his mouth and temps skyrocket.

    November 1, 2012 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  42. nikosan

    Off with his British Head!

    November 1, 2012 at 2:50 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  43. tilsmapa

    I am so thankful to see that others were as offended as I was at Piers Morgan for his brutal verbal slashing of Mr. Alviles. Shame on you, Piers. NYC had not dealt with this kind of flooding in 150 years, and officials did a grand job preparing the people about the storm... encouraging everyone to evacuate. It was much more organized than in 1995 before Katrina hit. This was a hard blow for anyone directly on the coast from the southern most tip of NC all the way up to Massachusets. Being from the south, we have learned that when these massive storms hit that you can never predict what mother nature has planned. The immediate aftermath is devestating, and unfortunately, it takes time to get to all the people. The hospitals made their best guess at the correct thing to do for all their patients. Negativity like what you were spewing on Wednesday night does nothing but upset people. It is petty, pompous, and unrealistic.

    November 1, 2012 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  44. lymegate

    One poster said:

    " the question of what happened to lead up to that evacuation needs to be pressed."

    The question isn't whether or not you like Piers. It isn't about whether you dislike 'foreigners'. It even isn't about his style of asking questions- it's about "what happened to lead up to that evacuation" and using those disclosures, "how can it be prevented in the future?

    November 1, 2012 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  45. tblack

    I have to agree with Morgan on hospital flooding. We need government grants to assist in restructuring facilities for major storms. In 2001 TS Allison caused major flooding to several hospitals in Houston resulting in evacuation of patients. Yet, when Ike hit Galveston and Houston in 2008, UTMB had not implemented changes from lessons learned by Houston. The pattern continues with NY, and I'm sure other states. I have to say that NY and NJ had a week to prepare and I don't think they talked with other cities about preventative measures that could & should be implemented.

    Moore also complined of the lack of real news coverage opposed to sensationalism of a few shots played over and over again. Anyone who has been thru this kind of event knows this frustration. And this kind of reporting only adds to the anxiety of those affected. I was not impressed with Morgan's arduous stance that any reporting is good reporting.

    The best thing I can tell the people in NY is listen to the radio- local talk radio specifically.

    NY & Jersey need to get over it. Ike resulted in 4,5 m people in Texas alone without power for 2 weeks to a month. Most of the residents of Galveston couldn't even go back to assess their property for 2 weeks.

    November 1, 2012 at 4:14 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  46. James

    What I don't like about climate science is its newness. The earth is
    4.5 to 4.6 billion years old and climate science has about 50 years of
    data they work with. I don’t think a climate science is a developed
    science. They need a geologist or something to be with them when they
    speak to hold any value for me. I mean the Ice caps are melting but
    they have been melting since the last ice age. Geologist record the
    last little ice age ended 1850, so Ice caps have been melting ever
    since. Also this even happened before the mid AD 950 to 1250 aka
    Medieval Climate Optimum. Which saw similar temperature spikes as
    today? There were also much greater temperature fluctuation and
    spikes with the last great ice age. So these climate changes
    happened before the industrial age, I like to see more data on why
    recent events and temperature fluctuation are any different then what
    geologist have recorded with their 4.6 billion year of data, compare
    to climate science 50 years of data. I’m not say it’s not true just
    I having see the correct data.

    November 1, 2012 at 4:14 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  47. csnord

    Is there no subject of which he has no understanding that the pea-brain Michael Moore will not offer up an ignorant, emotional, and wrong opinion about? Like the finder of a Boojum, he needs to quietly fade away.

    November 1, 2012 at 4:23 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  48. Drew

    Michael Moore blamed Katrina on Bush. So, should we blame Sandy on Obama? I'm sure he would never say that.

    November 1, 2012 at 8:05 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • oh my...

      No one blamed Bush for Katrina! It was a hurricane. Bush was blamed for the abysmal response. I guess I shouldn't be surprised by how many people here don't understand the difference.

      November 2, 2012 at 2:46 am | Report abuse | Reply
  49. art

    I believe the earth is warmer now than it was during the ice age.

    November 1, 2012 at 9:48 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  50. marctheduck

    Michael Moore is the single most responsible person for global warming in the world. The amount of hot air, from one end, and methane from the other is immeasurable.

    November 1, 2012 at 11:22 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  51. ITguy

    This is what we call Disaster Recovery Plan. NYSE and other financial corporations would have their data center rated at the "Business Critical" level. i.e. 24 x 7 up time garantee. It is a rule of thumb for building data centers, never to be placed in a basement because of danger of floor, and it must be placed in a location that is above the flood line. Now for the hospital in this case, we are talking about the backup generators. These are heavy equipments, so they are usually on the ground level. But we know this is NYC, open space is scarce, therefore they are in the basement. Where else you can put them, may be the only option is on the roof top. But can the building supports it, etc. So, we should consider the situation/dilema situation the hospitals are in.

    November 1, 2012 at 11:27 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  52. Humanity4All

    Remember, Sandy visits only once in 200 years...

    November 1, 2012 at 11:32 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  53. Bob

    piers morgan is an idiot, especially on that interview with Jesse Ventura, when he said, It is my show!, maybe you should be replaced....

    November 2, 2012 at 8:27 am | Report abuse | Reply
  54. Marion

    Morgan has this egotistical delusion that he speaks for the people and asks these "tough" questions for them. He has an opinion on everything under the sun....espeically everything American. Boy, do I miss Larry King.

    November 2, 2012 at 9:43 am | Report abuse | Reply
  55. Marion

    Morgan has this sly grin on his face whenever he thinks he is pigeon holing his guests with is clerverness and "tough" , but judgemental questions.

    November 2, 2012 at 9:45 am | Report abuse | Reply
  56. 2012grl

    Why are they interviewing Michael Moore about global warming? Oh, I forgot, he is a climatologist, biologist, scientist. Don't waste our time with hollywood and their opinions, uneducated ramblings, and regurgitations from Gore's film. Do I believe that Global Warming is real? Yes, but don't waste our time with Michael Moore.

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