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Piers Morgan on the Newtown, Conn. school shooting: "How many more kids have to die, before you guys say, 'we want less guns, not more'"
In the aftermath of yet another shocking American gun incident, on Friday evening "Piers Morgan Tonight" invited in a host of experts, survivors and insightful voices, all charged with attempting to add perspective and context to a school shooting in Newtown, Conn. that cost 28 people their lives.
Hosting a live program dedicated entirely to the tragedy that left 20 young children – ranging from Kindergarten age to the fourth grade – dead within the walls of their Sandy Hook Elementary School, Piers Morgan welcomed members from both sides of the gun debate, generating a spirited discussion on the ways in which the nation should respond moving forward:
"Why on Earth would you want more guns in schools after what's happened today," Morgan asked Steve Dulan.
Joining the program remotely from Ann Arbor, Mich., the Attorney for the Michigan Coalition of Responsible Gun Owners made his case:
"If we could suddenly make all guns disappear, I'd have a different position," he stated. "The simple facts are, guns exist. They are essentially 1800's technology ... they're easy to make, they're not going anywhere, they last several human lifetimes with minimal maintenance. So since guns exist, and we know for a fact that the only way to stop an evil person, like the person you were discussing earlier in the show, is to shoot him..."
At this point, Morgan jumped back in, presenting a different angle:
"This is exactly the argument that I have been hearing ever since I joined CNN," he noted. "The argument I keep hearing is 'well if everybody else was armed, it wouldn't happen.' It's a load of total hogwash!"
Siding with the host, Jerrold Nadler added some statistics to the argument:
"The proof of the pudding, is that in every other industrialized country in the world, other than the United States, they have reasonable gun control laws," said the New York Congressman. "They have 100 people a year, not 9,000 or 10,000 a year, killed by guns."
Upon engaging in heated discourse with John Lott, who was attempting to make a case for less legislation, Morgan remained insistent with his stance:
"There are nearly 12,000 murders a year from guns in this country. When are you guys going to focus on that, and stop telling me the answer is more guns. It is not the answer!" he exclaimed to his guest. "How many more kids have to die, before you guys say, 'we want less guns, not more.'"
"I'm upset, because I worry that the gun control laws that you're pushing, have killed people," said Lott, the author of "More Guns, Less Crime."
The man behind "Piers Morgan Tonight" saw things differently:
"Oh what a load of nonsense," he grumbled. "I'm so frustrated, I'm so furious, that these kids, have been blown away again, with legally acquired weapons. Some boy, who's got problems, takes his mother's three weapons – including this ridiculous assault rifle – and goes in a school and kills these kids, and you guys on the gun lobby still want to tell me the answer is more guns. It is madness!"
Watch the clips, and listen to the interviews, as Morgan attempts to shine a light on what he sees as the biggest problem surrounding Friday's school shooting in Newtown, Conn. and previous incidents just like it.
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FCC has made this happen make your friends in hollywood stop selling there hateful movies and this will end.
So repealing the second isn't good enough? now we must also repeal the 1st?
Tom change your name. I am ashamed to have the same name as soemone with a twisted mind like yours. Why don't you take your guns and shove them where sun don't shine. You gun loving twisted SOB.
When you allow access to guns then everyone, including yourself, which by the way says a lot about gun control, can buy or acquire them without a significant background check.
No wonder you are all messed up in the head... Oh and by the way the 2nd ammendment was created for a militia and its right to bear arms... this is back when a militia helped to defeat the English...
Times have changed MORONS.....
Please step on it now. push the politics, and save lives. Stu
piers : you need to tell the nra how would you fill if the people start going after nra members and killing them with the guns there so into and want more on the streets . then thay will want gun laws then to keep there members from getting killed . becouse i know if thay keep saying we need more guns on the streets people are going to start going after them after today . for there guns killing kids that were inasent.
today in China went in an elementary school with a knife and injured 22 children. WHile it was horrific, every one of those children are still alive and recovering unlike those shot with guns today. you do the math!
wonderful any mental ill people out there reading that will do it thank to you may be you don't have a right to say that what do you think of that take yoru right away not so nice is it?
James... That would not happen because the NRA members have the weapons to protect themselves from the people you and Piers would send after them. Here's a statistic for you, the state of Montana ranks 3rd in the nation in gun ownership but ranks 43rd in crime rate ( 1 being the highest crime rate). Since liberals like stats. so much you cant argue with that.
Mike, you seem like a reasonable guy. Other countries do not have the terrible problem we have. Senseless mass killing after senseless mass killing; we are insane if we do not do something about the epidemic of gun violence in our country. I'm sorry, but we just simply cannot continue as we have in the past. I believe we need to ban all guns. Half measure have not worked. We need to repeal the 2nd amendment. It is time. Piers Morgan is right.
I used to belong to the NRA. Yesterday I quit my membership. I have long enjoyed guns; the beautiful metal and wood workmanship; the fine machining and the transmitted power. But the human tragedy is too great. It is destroying our country and our democracy.
It is time to end private gun ownership in America. We need to repeal the 2nd amendment.
Stats like Montana having such a high percentage of gun ownership are worthless; those are all rifles. Canada has a higher per-capita rate of gun ownership than the US, but they are mainly rifles. Ban semi-automatics and assault rifles; make it virtually impossible to own a handgun. Own all the rifles you want; then lets see what happens.
@Barry, according to Wikipedia, Canada has 1/3 the total number of guns than the US, ranking 13th in the world, behind the US' #1 ranking.
You need to think out of the box guns are not the issue. You need to stop the focus on gun laws, because they only exist for the responsible gun owners. No matter what laws would have been in place the outcome of this incindent would likely, unfortunatley, have been the same.
The issue here is that the government can supply top notch security for certain government buildings, politicians, and also airports. Why can't we provide the same security to our childrens schools. We need to stop pointing fingers, and come up with solutions, because guns are here to stay no matter the laws in place. If better security was in place this may have never happened.
Mr. Smith. I agree about the security needed. But you mention top security on government buildings, airports, and such. I hate to say this, but if you look into it, you will find that the TSA had 28 illegal aliens working at an airport in Chicago under false paperwork. What is needed is not our government getting their hands on security, but local government stepping up.
Let's say we successfully took every gun including assault rifles off the market, and out of every home in America. You would still have mentally ill people who think that some illustrious voice is telling them to go into that kindergarten classroom and kill everyone inside. This time he will simply use a bomb. Right now in your home, in each of your homes are the materials for a home made bomb. Think people, think. These people are mentally ill. We do not need to stop and look or wait to judge. I can say with 100% certainty that this young man was mentally ill. This is not the work of someone who is stable.
So your point about guns is ridiculous. The real issue here is undiagnosed mental illness, or the training of those who are in classrooms, office buildings, theaters, whereever that there are warning signs. As the days go by it will unfold. What we will see is not that he was a gun loving NRA member. But, instead a mentally ill young man who has been overlooked by the system for whatever reasons and harmed people as a result. If it were not the guns he mother legally owned it would have been another weapon. Stop pointing fingers look at the bigger picture.
And since the overwhelming majority of incidents like this ONLY occur in the US, I'm wondering why do all the crazy people live here and nowhere else? I'm scratchin' my head on that one.....
Better security? Come on. Get real. The last thing we need is armed security guards at our elementary schools. The idea is repugnant – and ineffective. And you were condemning Piers for having a kneejerk reaction to the wholesale slaughter of innocent 6 year-olds? Better security...
It is time to repeal the 2nd amendment. We need to ban private gun ownership in America. Half measure do not work and other countries cannot believe how STUPID we are being about this topic. We are experiencing an epidemic of gun violence and the NRA solution is to ARM THE TEACHERS and install metal detectors and guard towers around our elementary schools?
Come on. Let's get serious. And can the NRA shills please be quiet for a respectable couple of weeks while the rest of the nation debates this issue sensibly and rationally?
Repeal the 2nd amendment. It is time.
Absolutely! We nee about 200 million more like you. Count me in!
I keep reading all of your comments Dave. I don't know what you do in your regular life but you need to be THE FACE if not one of the faces leading this charge. I wish you had a bigger platform. But when you do take on this monster that's long over due to be slain, then I'm right there with you. The 2nd Amendment no longer functions correctly with todays society.
Why don't you move to a different county. Plenty of them without rights for individuals. I think blowhards like you and Piers should be the ones walking up to houses, farms, and ranches demanding their firearms. I'm very sure they would hand them over to you. No problem. They're is an old saying you should think about, be careful what you wish for.
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Piers, you are absolutely correct! How dare these idiots believe the way to avoid future shootings could be accomplished by further arming society? complete insanity!!! please continue to profess your views, Americans have to get passed the fear of "losing their right to bear arms" and rather have fear of going through these horrific scenarios over and over!
Piers, why don't you go back to England where they actually buy into your kind of thinking? You clearly don't fit into America very well and probably never will. Your disarmed victim mentality is deeply rooted in your DNA.
As is typical of mindless liberals, you persist in blaming the gun and ignoring the psychopath that stole it. Might as well ban cars, because drunk drivers kill more people than guns do. You can't stop insane people from doing insane things...unless you shoot them. Everybody who's a responsible citizen should be armed and trained and ready to put down a rabid two legged animal when one shows up. If there had been perhaps ONE armed teacher or faculty member at that school, the death toll might have been much smaller, but the "no weapons in schools" policy serves only to ensure that an armed psychopath can rack up an impressive death toll BEFORE he encounters any armed resistance. These gun control laws and rules make us LESS safe, not MORE safe, and if you had two fully connected and functional neurons in that brain of yours you'd be able to see that without having to have it pointed out to you.
More gun deaths every year in the US then there are car related deaths, look it up.
We don't know if he stole the gun, he could of got it totally legally, it's not that hard.
Give a gun to every man women and child in your country, enjoy your continued mass murders, hope you like burying your children.
IMO the US has let this go on to long, there isn't any going back.
Shawn,
After looking it up, I find that you are way off base.
According to several websites vehicular deaths out weight gun death. For example:
According to the CDC's FASTSTATS website http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm
there have been 34,485 vehicular deaths and 31,347 gun deaths.
That report doesn't mention anything about accidental vs. murder. So maybe you need to check your facts.
What? He was 20 years old, there is no way that he could have legally acquired those handguns or that rifle. 21 is the required age. You are asking for more laws yet you don't even know the laws on the books.
You hit the nail on the head!
No one purposely murders an entire kindergarten class with a car.
So punish everyone because of what this nut job did. That is typical of liberal thinking. You need to study history and the history as to why the Founding Fathers put that in the Bill of Rights.
Good point.
Gun laws do make it safer, look at other civilized countries. The numbers speak for themselves!!!
Please apologize to the parents of the elementary children who died yesterday. Then stop spouting all the statistical nonsense you read off the NRA pamphlets. Comparing vehicle deaths to gun deaths is not social science and is not even a proper statistic. It is stupidity. Cars and vehicles are useful; private guns are wasting human life and providing no benefit whatsoever. They are a pleasant hobby for many Americans, at best. They used to be my hobby too.
But enough is enough. This year and this event is a turning point for me. We need to repeal the 2nd amendment. It is time.
I applaud you DaveW. I'm not an American but I do have American acquaintances who moved to Canada last year. She is a doctor and he was a bus driver in Chicago. They say that if they had known how safe Canada was they would have moved here a long time ago. Canada has it's share of tragedies but not to the degree as the U.S. My Company still has a moment of silence every December 6 for the 14 young women who were murdered in 1989 at École Polytechnique Massacre in Montreal. Keep up the good fight DaveW.
Mr. Johnson, you berate someone whose thinking is aligned with that of most civilized countries, where there is no such thing as "the right to bear arms", and their deaths by guns are far less than the USA. 26 people died in a "peaceful" town and all the gun lovers are concerned about is losing their right to own guns. This is a doubly sad time for the USA – the loss of innocent lives and the apparent loss of sanity.
Mr. Johnson, if that is your real name..... There is a mental asylum I would like you to visit.... Let me see how can I explain this to someone like you.....
When you arm the bad guys then obviously you need more guns to defeat them... Why don't we let North Korea or Iran get a nuclear weapon then....
Your logic is twisted, because you allow anyone the access to guns then obviously you say I have to defend myself... Not everyone has an access to cars. You actually have to pass an exam for that....
Piers You are uneducated... You don't understand nothing... I know your not from America but you need to understand history of the world. THE ROMAN EMPIRE Fell a 1000 years ago and 3.5 million people died. And guess what???? Not a single bullet was fired because they wasn't invented then...??? So back to today. I know in our society its guns thats the popular thing to kill.. But take them away and give people know pertection for there selfs and we will be back in the Roman days.... POINT MAKING... Evil on this Earth will always find a way to kill... Look how many people get killed every year by drunk drivers because liquor is legal???? Because the goverment won't band it because of the revenue they get.??? Forget about the story last week where a doctor stabed his two children 26 times with a knife???? Not a gun... The weather people say the Ozone layer has created all these new hurricanes and Tornadoes desasters that happens every year now...And they WILL be more next year..... So what can you do piers morgan?????? Nothing Nothing....Look at the big picture... It is what our society has become over the last 200 years.. We have invented to many things,, Cars, tv's that put killing with guns on every movie you see and our kids grow up with watching it... WE cant do nothing about it. Wake up people.... Its real
Are you serious?
I understand nothing too. Stu
Stu,
I think you meant to say that you don't not understand nothing. 🙂
Clearly you are not disuneducated enough.
Sir, I would suggest you check your spelling and grammar before calling anyone uneducated.
Piers, keep up the great work. Like a hot compress, you are pulling the white puss out of a long-enduring American infection. Perhaps these 6 year-olds did not die in vain after all.
byrnsd52, your spelling and grammar notwithstanding you make excellent points. But the truth remains: Other countries are not experiencing the epidemic of gun violence that we are struggling with. We need to follow their example and we need to rid ourselves of this scourge. Let us act together and repeal the 2nd amendment. It is time.
This was so funny to read that I was laughing. I'm sorry but your English is horrible. You could at least have written it in your native language and put it in translator by Google. You do sound "disuneducated." LOL.
What a sad outlook you have by the way: we can't do anything. Really?
Well byrnsd52, I think your e-mail as written speaks more for gun control than against it.
Really enjoyed hearing Professor Steve Dulan discuss gun rights. Would love to see him again as a guest - or host! - on CNN!
Piers,
The terrible tragedy that happened today in connecticut will inevitably happen over and over again in the U.S. The world will watch as politicians in America argue about gun control for the next several months, but in the end, as we have seen with other tragedies like this, there will never be any change. There is no political will to take on the pro-gun lobbyists in the U.S. and we will surely continue to hear the same ridiculous argument that "guns don't kill people, people kill people". Isn't it inexplicable that the U.S. Government worries about the use of chemical weapons on innocent people in Syria and yet allows its own citizens to acquire weapons and ammunition that have no other purpose than to kill their fellow Americans. The world watches and shakes its head "only in America".
So take away everyone's gun(s) and then the nut jobs on the far left will come out and play. For example, Bill Ayers hates capitalism and wants to kill 25 million capitalists in the US. We have guns to protect ourselves from the tyranny of big government. It has happened throughout history that governments have killed millions of its own people. It can happen here. There are more reasons than just the one you cited for people to own guns. Read more responses and you will know them.
What about an American Government elected by people like you that hand out guns to the bad guys and lose track of them (i.e. Fast and Furious)
John,
Well said. You practically said everything I feel and would like to have said myself. In the perfect world, all the guns are removed off the street, all the corner shops selling guns are closed and their 2nd amendment right to bear arms is outlawed as outdated. But this isn't a perfect world and I believe its too far gone now. There are too many guns on the street to end this problem and instead, America will have to stand by and watch as more and more of their innocents are slaughtered by needless gun violence. It breaks my heart and it confounds me how there are still people trying to protect and justify their rights to own guns even now, AFTER the mass shooting of yesterday and earlier this week and throughout this year.
Because you obviosly dont live where I live thats why! Everyone has a gun and they didnt get them legally. If you dont carry a gun you get shot. You must live in a dream world becaiuse where I live its a nightmare. Besides everyone I know would love for everyone to get rid of there guns. Makes it easier to get that cash.
You are right Bob, I dont live where you live, and i am thankful for that when I know that my children don't have to go to school and worry that some crazy gunman will come into their class and mow them down. I am thankful I dont live there where I would be frightened of walking down the street and being shot by some stray bullet fired by some crazed gang member in a drive-by. Classroom shootings is something that just doesnt happen here. I understand that you and your neighbours are fearful, but this insane idea that everyone has the right to own a gun in order to protect themselves, just ensures that there are more and more and more guns on the streets. Even owning them legally doesn't make them safe, as has been proved by Friday's events, though I understand what you say about people getting them illegally, ending this madness has to start somewhere? Start by closing down all the gun dealerships. Take the guns off the streets, have people hand their guns in, and slowly but surely the guns will become less and less. I know too, even as I type this that its probably too far gone and a pipedream, but that is my wish for the US. It has to start somewhere and it has to start now.
Im glad your glad that you dont live where I do. but where i live is where most people live. the only reason crack heads dont climb in my moms window is because they no we got guns. carrying guns where i live is illegal now but that aint stopen anyone is it. do you really think that if they made guns illegal that people would turn them in? not in my neighborhood laws dont mean anything now what makes you think it will matter when they take em away. laws are only good if people obey them. if people dont want to do something they aint gona do it. you know whats funny? almost ten people have died here just this week and i dont see anything about them on the news. i guess if they were white in the suberbs then america would care huh? as long as it dont affect you and the rest of america who dosent live here then its ok. but when 20 white kids get killed then its o my god we gota do something. i aint saying i dont care about those kids because i do im saying u dont care about the kids who dont live where you do. listen its just the way it is. criminal carry guns and they aint legal. they didnt buy em from no gun shows. they buy em on the street and the last time i looked ozies arent made in america are they but they have em! the only thing you gona do by giving up your right or my right to have guns is to make it easy for people who dont care about the law to shoot you down for your shoes because they can and there aint no one to stop em. but im glad you dont live where i do.
WHATEVER LADY!
questions you need to ask if you really care at all. what movies did he watch, what games did he play, what songs did he listen to? If you get the answer I know it would be hard, but you should share that. Unless you are so happy that another time happen for you can beat the NRA, and gun owners in to the ground. this is not about guns this is mental illness, and that is what we need to look at. who took the two little girls that were found months later dead by a hunter? this goes on ever year, but you say nothing about this. what do you think you brain would be like after watching CSI, for a year or the other things on tv that is so hateful. talk about the reason not the tool that it was done with you stop what is going on.
When I think of all those little caskets, I think, this is how expensive complete freedom is.
Too simple? Perhaps.
The people that want the gun laws to stay as they are or allow them to have even more guns are afraid of 'big government', isn't that right?
Doesn't 'Government for the people, by the people', mean that democratically elected officials are there because they were chosen 'by the people'?
If the majority of Americans agree that gun ownership by private citizens must be somehow justified and strictly regulated and/or that access to guns be restricted to the military and law enforcement, as it is in most industrialized nations, why is this not the case?
Is it that 'We are the leaders of the free world', mentality that inhibits sane measures on this issue? The great beacon of freedom has made that country great, there is no one that can doubt that, but again, I think, this is how expensive complete freedom is.
where were you when they were running, Mitt and Obama. did you not hear the lies they both told about each other? the for fathers knew this and that is why they said here's a gun don't let them take your freedoms. taking things away works with little kids for a short time but they grow up and they have to be give the keys to the car and other things they can hurt them. we need to see mental ill and do some thing about it. not act as if they just go away.
Where were your sympathies when we (As you put it) just murdered 1. something million children in Iraq???
As horrible as this shooting was, I haven't seen one ounce of remorse, not once did I see pierce arguing for them, Ive never seen obama cry for them, Ive never seen the American public make such an outcry for those children that America (we) just murdered!
What a bunch of hypocrites you are!
Now your only solution is to disarm the American public? Please, stick to what your good at and turn survivor back on until the next misguided child high on prescription drugs does something else to shake your delicate sensibilities
Thank you NRA. You just killed the future of America. We have less bright kids just because of your stupidity.
It's rather ironic byrnsd52 that you criticise anothers lack of education when your rather unlettered post is riddled with spelling and grammatical errors. Also your poor attempt of a strawman citing ancient Romans, extreme weather and drunk drivers has zero relevance on the gun control debate
"The answer is, until you can get ALL the guns out of the drug dealers, bank robbers, murder's hands, weirdo's hands, more guns IN THE RIGHT HANDS are what we need."
This is exactly the sophist dribble that makes us Americans so blatantly ignorant to the world. Seriously, what stellar, well-thought out argument that a rational person could propose. The solution is get a gun, shoot and kill. REALLY?? Yes, say that to any parent today who lost their child today, OR has under these situations. I dare you.
Were any of those innocent children any of those you mentioned above that we need "to protect" ourselves from? Was the shooter the drug-dealer, bank robber, etc., that you allude to? YOU see, it's super easy for a mentally ill person, or anyone for that matter with an impassioned, misdirected cause, to DO harm and mass murder.
Why don't you ask anyone of those parents today or the dozen's from Colombine, would you have liked to have those teachers to be armed or armed guards around to keep your children from being killed.
"The solution is get a gun, shoot and kill. REALLY?? Yes, say that to any parent today who lost their child today, OR has under these situations. I dare you."
I will gladly ask any parent from today or in other incidents in the past, if they would rather have the shooter killed and their child alive. Your comment sir/mama is pure stupidity.
OH boy there we go again, a NRA lobbying blatantly ignorant hot-head conservative whose knee jerk solutions lies in more guns and killing. Because all people with loaded guns would have just the ideal reaction and target precision to know what to do under such situations. Be real.
SIR YOUR comment is so blatantly ignorant and full of sophism. No wonder we Americans seem so ignorant to the world. What an embarrassment.
"Gun free" zone = "free fire" zone for cowards. Ask yourself a question, if you were a parent of one of the children who were killed today and could rewind 24 hours, what would you rather have in place, gun control laws, or a shotgun under the teachers desk? think about it! Even a 1% chance of school staff being armed would deter these cowards.
if I could go back 24 hours, I would walk up to Nancy (the gun owner), revoke her gun licenses and remove her gun collection and cite her for being an irresponsible gun owner for not locking up her guns so people like her son would have no access to them. Preventative measures people. There are too many people in America that cry out they are responsible but keep their guns hidden under mattresses. Wake Up America!
I'd rather rewind the clock 24 hours to wake up and hear President Obama say "Today we have passed a new law. Hand guns are no longer going to be sold to average citizens. We do this in hopes to not infringe on previous legal gun owners but to rid guns out of the hands of criminals and or anyone who either meaningfully or not meaningfully can harm themselves or other individuals. We do this because it's become obvious that we cannot, as a whole, be responsible or personally accountable for our behavior with guns. And although we acknowledge those that have acted responsibly with hand guns or assault rifles, we must take even more notice to those who haven't. Therefore as of today.......we will be rectifying the 2nd Amendment." And for that sir... I'm fine with the lives that we lost yesterday, previously, and will lose going forward because I know an end to this gun epidemic will be coming to a quick end. Sometimes you have to envision the world beyond just today, and envision a peaceful less gun toting and fearful society. Stop selling and making guns in mass numbers and it's inevitable that gun violence will go down. LESS GUNS, LESS GUN VIOLENCE. Simple math.
22 children were stabbed in China by a madman the same day... better outlaw knives too. Someone with a handgun could of made quick work of that problem. Piers Morgan is a Frankfurt School Marxist who took a tragedy and turned it into a golden opportunity to support his bad politics. If Piers wants to confiscate guns and turn our society into unarmed sheeple, I nominate him to go personally go door to door and collect... two words... GOOD LUCK!
YO BEN,
You ignorant American. The 22 children stabbed in China ALL SURVIVED>>>> SURVIVED.
When you try to use an example make sure you know what you are talking about. But what else should we expect from you.... This was worst than the prosecution vs OJ and the glove.
We are not saying you shouldn`t have a gun in your home, we are saying that an AR15 is an asault weapon. This is why the 2nd amendment makes no sense... the right to bear arms menas what exaclty... the right to also have a bazooka????? Why can't you guys see the point.
The answer is not arming teachers, the answer is removing these powerful rifles that are easy to use and carry a 100 bullets per clip.
All the times I have watched Mr. Morgan on different programs, I always thought he was a very smart man. Tonight's program on gun control changed my mind. How much of an idiot actually thinks that outlawing guns will lower the death rate here in the US? As so many people have said, "guns don't kill people, people kill people".
Until we get down to the real problem, taking guns away from the law abiding people in the United States will only cause more people to get killed. The law abiding citizens.
People today don't value human life anymore. They value money over the people in the house next door. All you have to do it take a look at business today. Look at the drug trade. Take a look at the violence in MI over the vote of right to work. Fist fights over money. And don't try and tell me it is deeper than that. That is all it is. MONEY and GREED.
And the BS about violent games cause all this trouble. These educated idiots say that it warps the mind and causes people to kill. My son was raised playing all those war games. All the violent, killing games. But at the same time, WE, his mom and I taught him family values and also taught him that those were only games. Not real life. Too many mothers and dads forget to teach their children today basic values of family and human rights.
I grew up playing cowboys and indians. Playing army. Even playing cops and robbers. It never entered my mind to go out and kill someone. To go out and rob a bank. I had a bow and arrows and even BB's guns growing up. I never as much as shot a bird. Guns were for self protection or for killing something to eat. I was taught values as I was growing up. I was taught that all life meant something.
Today's teenager, for a very large part, think the world owes them something. Not that they have to work for it. And our government isn't helping matters any. They have put so many people on handouts, what do kids today think. "I don't have to work, the government will support me."
What ever happened to self worth and self pride?
Mr. Morgan, maybe instead of talking about a piece of steel being our problem, maybe you could talk about the real problem. The person behind that piece of steel and how they were raised.
A gun by itself can't hurt a soul. It has to have a tool to pick it up and pull the trigger.
YES. I fully admit that we need our laws enforced and maybe made stronger. And yes, I totally agree that NO ONE needs assault weapons in the hands of anyone but law enforcement. But until you find a way to get them out of the hands of the lawbreakers, you will find them in the hands of the general public.
If you look to our (The United States) past you will find that automatic weapons were in the hands of bank robbers and law breakers years before law enforcement or anyone else had them. If I remember right, law breakers carried guns even before the FBI was allowed to carry them. So, you make automatic weapons illegal and who will have them? Oh wait, they are illegal. And who has them? Drug runners, drug dealers, bank robbers, etc.
The answer is, until you can get ALL the guns out of the drug dealers, bank robbers, murder's hands, weirdo's hands, more guns IN THE RIGHT HANDS are what we need.
Armed guards. Metal detectors. Bullet proof glass on the doors. If the school in CT would have had that, I really doubt that anyone would have gotten in the door with those weapons.
And yes, that is what it is coming down to. Putting our kids behind locked doors and protected by gun carrying police/security guards.
Mr Morgan, WHEN you get ALL the other guns, I will be in the front row handing in my guns. (If I had any).
"how they were raised?" did you know Ms. Lanza to make such assessment? "guns in the right hands" would only result in guns in the hands of people who will now be over protective, paranoid, and on the defensive, likely to take action (or pull a trigger) based on protective measures...taking guns away from people means eliminating the tool used to commit these crimes. it may take a while but it's the first step in the right direction..teacher with a gun bullet proof doors = living in fear....strict no gun laws = a better tomorrow.
"guns in the hands of people who will now be over protective, paranoid, and on the defensive, likely to take action (or pull a trigger) based on protective measures"
"teacher with a gun bullet proof doors = living in fear"
"strict no gun laws = a better tomorrow."
I said putting guns in THE RIGHT HANDS. Not someone that get emotional due to excitement. Do you think police officers "pull a trigger based on protective measures"? If they did, there would be tons more drug dealers in the ground. I don't know of one police officer that likes a drug dealer. Matter of fact, I would go as far as saying they hate them.
Living in fear. Mr. "NoMoreGuns" we have been living in fear for years. I have lived in fear in one form or another since I became a parent. I fear for my children everyday due to our society. No, not guns. Society. Because I know there are more ways to kill than by using a gun. Did a gun kill all the people in the twin towers? Did a gun kill all our people in the pentagon? Due to 911 there are now armed air Marshalls on aircraft today. We don't live in fear today? How much has changed in airports, federal building, post offices, etc. since 911?
Yeah. No gun laws. And the law breakers are going to follow that law? Sure they are. LOL
You are so clueless that I can not begin to even discuss this with you. I had rather had the school better fortified and the teacher armed. The real problem is the break down of the family and society in general. I am for better background checks and the right people being better armed. Do you really believe that the criminals are going to turn in their weapons if so you are truly delusional.
What sort of world do we live in if we need armed guards and bullet proof glass in a school, the UK had a similar incident a number of years ago and unfortunatly outlawed the ownership of handguns completely. Tighter gun controls are part of the solution (not a complete ban on guns) along with parental resonsibility in raising their children and medical help for all not just those with deep pockets.
What sort of world do we live in?????? After what happened yesterday, you actually ask that question. We live in a world where people with warped minds can get there hands on guns and kill innocent children. Stricter guns laws? CT has the 4th most strict gun laws in the US and he still got guns.
This is not going to be a simple answer as stronger gun laws. There is much more to it than that. Better mental heath care. Better information and help for people that need it. NO not more government hand outs. Actual help.
Piers, thank you for your voice of sanity. You have earned yourself a new loyal fan. I am also sick of seeing crocodile tears of politicians during these gun murders, yet nothing is ever done. We need strict gun control NOW!
So how's the unisured motorist laws working.???..how's the illegal drug laws been working??? Give me a break...get into reality...these laws don't work...that's why you pay "uninsured" motorist insurance. Only the BAD people will possess guns...not the good people!! Get a clue!!!
and the idiots come crawling out from out of the gutters. Don't you think the lack of good comebacks would have inspired you to bring up better comebacks. Go sit in the corner.
Chicago is the city with the most gun laws in the country. How is that working out on murders? Disarm the public and crime will become rampid
No bull necessary, less guns mean less deaths.
No discussion.
Stu
Yes, tell that to the millions Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot killed or the tens of thousands the Albanians killed – there are others. We need guns to protect ourselves from government tyranny and people like Bill Ayers, who actually wants to kill about 25 million capitalists here in the USA.
On NRA's warning, " Guns don't kill, people do", I can't, for the life of me, understand why the American people withstand this kind of insult to their intelligence in the light of years of gruesome gun violence.
When hanguns were banned in Chicago handguns crimes went to zero right? Wrong!! I think you might find the hand gun ban doesnt protect you very well from handguns if you took a stroll on the south side.
If we need gun control what about car control
There are more drinking and driving fatalities than gun fatalities in the US. Should we ban cars?? Its not the guns, its the crazy people behind the guns. If assault weapons are banned they will find a weapon and still kill!!!!
Really? How or better yet why is the simple truth such an insult to your intelligence? A gun is simply a means. It takes an individual to operate and use it. Now, my heart goes out to the families of the children in CT., but the bottom line is that it was an individual that committed these crimes not the gun. The gun was simply the means he used. If we had gun controls in place, he would have probably used some other means to accomplish his rain of terror. I have owned guns my entire life and not once have I even considered using them in a violent manner.
So let's evaluate your rationale to eliminate guns from the people. Once this has been accomplished, the American people would no longer have guns at their disposal. But guns will always exist. The criminal eliment will always find a way. This would leave us defenseless. I feel comfortable knowing I can protect my family if I have too. With your logic, why doesn't the U.S. set the example and remove all their weapons and guns from the military? The answer is simple if we did that, we would be vulnerable to attack, we would be helpless to defend ourself. So simply stating the removal of guns would eliminated or reduce the violence is rediculous.
People have to wake up. The root cause of this problem is not the gun. It's our society, it's our culture, it's our behaviorial tendencies. We have raised a culture that has romanticized violence. Young people today grow up thinking it is cool and or it makes you tough. They are not being taught moral and ethical values, like in years past. Our young are not self reliant as we are and they do not have an issue with using violence as a means to achieve their goals. Greed and drugs are other factors. Factors that are much more dangerous than guns. Yes, we have problems in this country, we have many downfalls, but any analyst will agree that to resolve a problem you need to eliminate the root cause of the problem. One method is to ask the question why? 5 times. Given truthful answers you can get to the real problems, If necessary ask more than 5 times. This is what the police or other people that analyze these situations are going to do. The root cause is never the gun. So do this exercise yourself, be honsest with your answers and see if the answer is the gun. No, it can never be because the gun is only a means or method. That means, somethings else something deeper is at the root. This is what we have to fix. Come on people, its time to stop hugging trees and work or real solutions.
I would like to send my thoughts and prayers out to the familys and to the children and adults that were lost
Ugh, I just had to change the channel when Piers was talking over everyone and yelling. Why have people on your show if you're just going to talk over them and yell? He was causing way too much attention on himself at a time like this, and it was so unnecessary, this heated debate/discussion could have waited a few days after this tragedy. I also don't think piers realizes that stricter gun control laws, which are necessary, are not the only solution to our problem. Guns are out there, if a person REALLY wants a gun they will be able to get it regardless of what laws are in place. We would be really naive to think that gun laws are going to solve our problems. Mental illness needs to be identified more often and treated better in the US (assuming this person is mentally ill), a lot of times individuals in these killers lives saw signs early on. The problem is they can't do anything about it. There needs to be laws in place to voluntarily commit these people/watch them for an extended period of time if one thinks they have the potential to be violent. Guns by themselves don't just jump up and kill people. People who are sick/mentally ill, or just plain evil kill people. Until these people get help things like this won't stop happening.
I agree hope;
Piers – why have guests on your show, if all your going to do is yell over them. We "intelligent" listeners would love to hear an intelligent discussion regarding the suggested solutions to these senseless killings. But if this is the way you do journalism (yell over anyone you don't agree with) you won't have a show anymore. I also love the way everyone makes up there own statistics to support there side. I would love to see the polls (and exact questions asked – because they also skew the answers) that support this supposed "Americans for gun ban" majority.
I have to agree with you John and Hope guns are not the problem the mental health of our citizens is the problem and the constant doom and gloom of our media pundits ie Piers Morgan etc. His rant tonight is enough to incite violence.
If Piers's comments incite you to violence then maybe you are mentally ill. Listen to the "other side" and keep your opinion if you want. No violence is needed, right?
Liberals have no substance. They have to yell over their opponents. Idiot Morgan is no exception.
REALLY??? "if a person REALLY wants a gun they will be able to get it regardless of what laws are in place."?????
Yah it's starts with RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER, which Nancy was NOT. A responsible owner would have had them locked in a gun safe. See, people like you want to blame the criminals for the reason to have guns, but ITS A FACT....TONS of guns found in the possession of criminals are found to have been purchased by law-abiding citizens who did NOT properly lock up their guns and had them stolen.
Thank You Thank You Thank You ....for saying what I believe most Americans truly feel relative to Gun Control ! I'm an American but have lived outside of the USA for many years and know for a fact that in countrys where they have strict guns laws death by guns are much much less...Its just a fact....I hope & pray that America will awake up and get tough on Gun Control !
PS: If the founding Fathers were here today I don't beleive they would agree in this day & age " The right to bear Arms" is still
a required right !
Thank you thank you thank you for trying to make people understand more guns are not the answer! I have relatives in Australia and they have nothing like this other than the Tasmania incident . This needs to stop, and having these innocent children die is tragic and appalling . Why the man' s mother had those weapons is ridiculous . We need to make this stop now and never ever see this happen again.I hope President Obama can find a way end this string of tragic events.
I think Piers has a strong argument and those part of the gun association DO NOT. I live in Canada, and I can say that we are functioning quite well without as many guns as Americans have. People misuse guns and use them for violence and taking control of people. Why would you want to have such deadly weapons SO easily accessible in your country? I'd be afraid to step outside of my own home with the fear that I may get shot by some psychopath who just purchased a gun like a bag of candy. What if it were one of your family members who were killed in such a tragic way? Would you STILL believe guns are the answer? Think about how these parents and families feel. Without the use of this deadly weapon, this tragic incident would not have happened today and lives would have been saved. Just because there are guns on TV doesn't give us a reason to hand them over to our kids to shoot people with. People shouldn't be attacking Piers because he's making a logical, valid and reasonable point!
Do weapons prosper, do you believe God is he? *Matthew 15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. *Isaiah 1:15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood. *Matthew 27:25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children. *Revelation 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. (Be strong, be brave. Grace and truth)
Piers,
I
love your show and watch it often, almost every night, that is.
I am also right there with you and your campaign for gun control.
But, on a night like tonight,
A night that none of us should live to see again,
I wonder as I watch the media
Circling over this lovely wounded town, Newtown
That have been devastated forever by the hands of just one psycho
Did he watch too much TV?
Too many columbine reports?
Aurora?
Is it possible this unstable genius might have possibly
Yearned all his life for his 15 minutes of fame?
And noticed how you and your cohorts
The smart and eloquent reporters
That landed on that scene while those murdered bodies were still warm
Like voltures aimed on the carcases of bleeding bodies
And hot scoops.
Is it possible that all this hoopla
May one day
Push yet another psycho
To claim his 15 minutes of tragic fame
Knowing you will be there
To recite, repeat and mourn his deed for all of us to watch.
Just wondering,
Bey
well said.
Amen
Avraham,
Are you for real? Maybe you are that next psycho....
This has to be reported. Their pain has to be protrayed so gun loving people like you could see what this does to a community.... You just want to brush it under the rug, let's hide it so we don't have to change or deal with it.
Bravo America.... and you call yourselves the light of the world. God has blessed you allright (sarcasm)!
I'm sorry but interviewing a girl who hasn't talked to Adam Lanza since middle school is ridiculous –
Trying to gain insight this way is stupid and desperate- if you don't know the facts don't try reaching for them through someone without any knowledge, instead Piers do your job and investigate and get the facts- be an actual journalist!
Well put Pierce. We need to end this madness. No more guns!!! Enough!
Did you know that the LA Times reported that today a man in China killed 22 school children with a KNIFE! Talk about a bloody mess. Should we also outlaw knifes? Killing is wrong no matter the source of weapon!! My heart breaks for all these families in America and China!! If they don't have a gun they'll find another way…like knifes!
Cars kill people everyday in the USA when people get behind the wheel and drive, should we ban cars?? Piers, its NOT the guns. The killers will find another weapon and still kill....
Piers, your show tonight was absolutely terrible. You dont even let your guests get a word in because you are so narrow minded...pathetic
Correction " he wounded 22 childern not killed" ...It doesnt make it any better..still a tragedy...I'm from the US but live in China and I can tell you we dont have many killings or fear for our lives walking around China...death by guns is almost non exisitent
do u feel like an idiot because the kids didnt die?? yes a big deifference between guns and knives!
A girl that knew him in middle school.... ? then bring on the experts to tell us why he did it... this kind of 'News' sickens me .... can we at least just remember the Victims... the anchors fake concern .. lets remember this is one of the Fleet street hacks that wouldn't hesitate to hack a phone message in order to get the story
a time back a man came on your show and said you help Obama get in. He said it not in a nice way. I didn't think much of it. Than I started to listen to this gun thing you go on and on about. I know that Obama wants to take our guns away. So now I ask do you think you are to blame for the shooting? could these men that have done this think I will kill my self but I will help to get the gun away from ever one than I done a good thing before I die? what show did they watch on tv Piers. Listen to the hate full stuff you are saying to this man that stands up for our gun rights.wow! They need to take you off the tv not the guns.
Right on!! He needs to go back to the UK where he belongs!! Take away guns and these wackos will use bombs!!
They could use bombs but guns are easier to get. Bombs take time. A moment of being irrational will wear off if that person realizes he actually has to put some effort into going through his plan. Yah great argument *rolls eyes*. Go sit in the corner Robert
Dragon Slayer: Loving your responses, nodding my head to everything you are posting – especially enjoying the sarcasm.
This person used hand guns no semi auto rifle was used. Education people,education......as I told my wife,if I lay a fully automatic weapon on a table and no one picked it up or touched it,it would never hurt or kill anyone! PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE,GUNS ARE ONLY A MEANS TO AN END,AS ARE KNIVES, BOWS AND ARROWS,AUTOMOBILES,AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT CAN BE USED AS A WEAPON! A weapons ban will not stop this type of behaviour,only change the type of weapon.I'm sorry to say but a school full of unarmed children would be in extreme peril from a knife wielding MAD MAN as well.I feel for those families but to blame guns for human shortfalls in my opinion is just wrong.
You know Ron,
I think people like you should be declared mentally unstable and have to pass an examination to see if you are fit to have guns.
People kill people not guns!!!!! That is a great argument just like the one with the cars. I wonder is that all the NRA teaches you? Everytime someone questions your gun loving ways these are the arguments you guys use.
I will explain it to you so you can understand....
When you are playing a game (Call of Duty) you know when you get to choose your weapon???? What weapon will you choose to get the best results (mass destruction).... What if you couldn't choose the weapon of mass destruction, what would you do???
Think about it hard Ron, there may be some hope for you after all..... 22 children were stabbed in China same day as the massacre in Newtown. You know how many of them died Ron.... Z E R O.
Hard to beleive Piers is so misdirected and misguided. When handguns were banned in Chicago hangun crimes went down to nothing. I don't think so Piers. I would love to see you take an evenig stroll on the inner city south side and see how the handgun ban protects you. I would suggest that you head back over the pond with the rest of your redcoated forefathers before you ruin CNN and drive away its advertisers
Well put Ken.
Well Put Ken???
Is that your answer to everything when someone born in another country disagrees with you???? Go back to where you came from?? How mature.
Dragon Slayer,
Sorry, but I'm a firm believer in love it or leave it. If Piers does not like it here then he should leave. If he does not leave then there must be something here so inticing that he chooses to stay. I'm relatively sure if we do nothing as a nation to curb gun violence, Piers Morgan is still going to stay here. I do not want him to impose any of his views on me. I have my own values and don't need input from a foriegn national (I not sure if he is a citizen or not). Anyway, his views are skewed, he does not understand the American History and what we endured a nation to become independent.
So, Dragon Slayer (sounds a little violent to me) why defend this man. What does he bring to the table? We fought to get away from his country years ago. So why are we listening to him now? Because time are different? Because his thoughts are similar to yours? Come on, look around, we are not really that violent of a nation. For the most part, our citizens get along everyday with no incidents, yet TV projects violence everyday. They romanticize it on TV shows and movies. The media is one of the factors that has help create a society so at ease with violence. So, why doesn't Piers make a stand against his industry? Come on Piers, let her you say we need to take violence out of Television. Of course this may get into his pocket so I don't put much stock in his arguments about gun control. He's simply seeking public attention by taking a controversial stand on a matter that he probably wouldn't support if it meant losing his job.
Yo Ken,
Stick to your dollhouse and accessories.
Yes it is the guns (semi automatic) are the problem. But there are also problems when the staff at a elementary school are told NOT to talk about bad things that happen to them at school. Look at what is happening in my area
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=288186354618302&set=a.288186261284978.46874.286748081428796&type=1&ref=nf
You really need to read this
It's semi-auto guns that are the problem? Do you even know what the difference is between a semi-auto and a full auto is? Don't look it up, answer honestly here.
If you do know, then please tell me what is the difference when a person is engaging unarmed targets? I seriously want to know? You don't think a bunch of kids couldn't have just as easily have been massacred with a lever action rifle or a pump shotgun?
Piers,
The Dr you had on was wrong, dead wrong! We can rush to judgement on this! We can say this person was mental. This is not the work of a stable human being. Yes, I can rush to judgement. Please ask your guests to push their agenda on the Vierw and keep it off your show.
Thanks you,
Gina Smith
Thank you Piers for having the guts to stand up to those who are ignorant in terms of gun control. Keep up the good work!
what rights are you willing to give up next? freedom on what you say that right is gone? freedom to not have your child taken from you, gone? freedom of how rich you can get, gone. how much money your can walk around with, gone. they can take your home from you. they can say the dog you own is the wrong dog and have it put to death your rights are going away, and you don't even see it. Who is this guy that goes off on one guy, that is standing up for your rights, with three of them screaming at him. He’s not from here, why does he care so much, he can just go home but he doesn’t why is that? I say this man doesn’t like us very much does he?
how about this.....why try it out. If the numbers stay the same or rise, then bring them back. Don't knock it till you try it. You may amaze yourself.
Gun control laws won't solve these incidents. Don't you know Connecticut has the 4th strictest gun control laws and look what happened!
Look at Washington DC. They have some of the strictest gun control laws and horrible gun crimes. Michigan has strict gun control laws and look at the tons of homicide shootings in Detroit and Flint.
The truth is you gun control people are going to end up taking guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens and the only people left with guns will be dangerous criminals who get guns illegally and the law-abiding citizens will have no protection. The only gun control that works is absolutely no guns in society but then you'd be abusing the 2nd amendment
When a drunk driver gets in a car accident and kills someone we should scream that cars be reduced too.
Just watched this segment. You are a JERK!!!! You do not give your guests who disagree with your liberal views the opportunity to respond to your questions. It is a shame you use the tragic loss of children's lives to push you agenda
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-man-slashes-22-children-near-china-school-20121214,0,6383015.story?fb_source=feed&ref=feed&refid=28&_ft_=qid.5822043940322849147:mf_story_key.102852253220580
do you have guns around you Mr Morgan? do you have some one keeping you save with a gun? is there any one in the places you work that has guns? and if so why?
Piers,
Normally I enjoy your interviews. But tonight you come across as a joker who is way too biased. At least give the gun rights proponent a chance to argue his point. You are talking all over him...crappy sensationalist journalism!
Totally agree!
I was just flipping through the channels and saw your two men (I should say ONE man) discussing the gun control laws. You let the idiot from the Brady foundation rave on and on while the guy from Michigan didn't get two words out before you let him be interrupted by the idiot again! That's why FOX Cable News is and has been #1 for so many years. They are fair and balanced and tell both sides of every story and CNN DOES NOT!!! If the idiot thinks criminals will not have guns (assault rifles and any guns they will purchase illegally) when the government bans guns, he is as crazy as they come. We Americans have to protect our children and ourselves with guns!!!
The Supreme Court of the United States of America has already ruled on the gun-control issue. The debate is over. There's nothing left to talk about.
This is the United States. If you do not like it, move to Australia or re-subjugate yourself to the British crown. But here in the United States, citizens have a right to own and carry firearms, and it will stay that way.
And when the left finally gets all our guns because of the stupidity of the masses as to why the Founders put in the right to bear arms, then tyranny will come. The dictators on the left want those guns so they can dictate to us whatever they want. I feel horrible for those families and very sad for those poor children, but if we lose this battle for our right to bear arms, we will eventually lose all our liberties as most of us cherish them today. Big central governments are tyrannical and that is exactly the direction we are going!
then with that statement, why bother reporting the news at all about these sorts of tragedies. they should just come with the territory right? way to go!
Yes, I am sure you are right, it will stay that way, and more and more of your innocents will die. That will stay that way too. With views like yours, there is simply no hope.
It's not hard to believe that Piers is misguided. He's British. Brits' idea of freedom is based on the supreme authority of a monarch, with commoners existence based on the whim of the crown. Americans idea of freedom is individual sovereignty. Piers might as well be from Mars for all he understands about America.
so if non-Americans just don't get the "American culture", why bother reporting the news about this sort of thing at all. It should just be a normal day right? Go Sit down in the corner Don
Commoners? Go back to the 1820's Don
I am horrified by what happened today, but even more horrified by legislators and TV personalities that once again need to blame an inanimate object that has no ability to act on its own as the problem. No the actual problem is we blame everything or everyone else rather than the person who committed the crime. We are all responsible for our own actions!!!!! I have posted it before and I am posting it again (Guns don't kill, People DO!!!!!) This is a horrible event and the mentally ill person who committed this heinous act is solely responsible.
Piers, give the guy a chance to speak! Its a joke that you let the anti – gun law guys have their say, but as soon as there is a guy that tries to explain the other side of the story, you shut him down!
As a Professional Hunter in South Africa, we have to train to be able to use high calibre rifles at a high rate of fire! We turn bolt action rifles into "semi auto" rifles by practise.
In South Africa, there are stringent laws regarding the posession of firearms, but guess what, its the illegal fire arms in our country that do all the killing! Get control of the black market and screen more thoroughly! it can take upto 3 months to get your licence to possess.
Piers, Although I dont condemn anything that happened today and its very very sad but you are a very closed minded individual. Its not the guns, its the people behind the guns. It doesnt matter if you banned assault weapons, the people that want to do these crazy acts still will.
People that drink and get behind the wheel of a vehicle and cause a fatal accident which there are more deaths in this fashion then mass shootings. Should we take away cars??
A weapons ban will be useless because the bad people will still kill.....
There are other means than killing a suspect to disable them or take control of a situation.
Fast acting Tranquilizer guns that disable a suspect. Gas canisters.
Air supplies to class rooms can be controlled....Yes, it is draconian...but these are vicious times.
It is better than killing people to end killing!!!
Heck...Tear gas panic buttons in classrooms. for teachers, or remotely controlled from a security area......yes, a few kids with asthma would have a hard time, but you could prevent massacres. The slaughter of innocents.
Airlines could have short acting anesthetic gases that could be released into the passenger cabins, while the pilot and crew are safe...and then have them apprehend the terrorist, and give the antidote to the passengers.... probably lose a few little old ladies with bad hearts...but save most of the passengers and prevent an airline disaster...
There are no Tranquilizers that act fast enough to stop a person in pulling a trigger on an automatic weapon that can fire 1,000 rounds in almost a heart beat. Even on a semi automatic weapon, several rounds could be shot off before they went down.
Gases in air ducts? How many would that kill due to being allergic to the gas? That has already been looked into. It was in the news years ago. And due to the chance of killing an innocent due to an allergic reaction, was ruled out. Loose a few little old ladies???? Are we God now that we say who lives and who dies? Who would give the antidote to the people? The teacher that is also asleep? It wouldn't be the police before a child would die from an allergic reaction. They have procedures to follow. They don't just rush into the scene when something happens.
And most of all. What makes you think that a shooter could not get his hands on a gas mask once it is known that schools or airlines put gas in place.
Tear gas. Have you ever been effected by tear gas? I have. Not even an answer. All it would do in a case like today is make the person lash out more.
Just listened to this "debate" – it was horrible – a screaming match that didn't try to look at anything seriously. Piers Morgan does not listen to people because he has his own agenda. I agree with gun control but I don't see how this discussion was helpful at all. Does Piers Morgan consider himself a journalist? Probably not. All he seems to want to do is provoke to create an "exciting" "debate" – he doesn't succeed – he is merely annoying.
Thank you for the great show. You must be frustrated by the responses. i have been fighting this most of my life. My family were hunters, gun were part of life at the Davis's. The issue must be addressed. Thank you.
Its not really about the 2nd amendment. It's all about MONEY. The gun manufacturers want to make more and more money by expanding their market and they don't care what their product does to our children. Follow the money . . . .
I am not a gun manufacturer and it is completely about the 2nd amendment for me and the millions of Americans that own guns. I wish we were all as wealthy as the manufacturers but we are not. They (Gun Makers) exist because WE want their product. Not because they make them and then force us to buy them.
The gun manufacturers market FEAR. And by the way, here is the 2nd amendment. Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. Please note it talks about MILITIA.
You are absolutely correct. A militia armed to protect themselves from the possibility of a corrupt and over zealous government that no longer serves in the interest of the citizenry. I started buying guns to hunt, I continued as a patriot!!!!!
One of our nations worst tragedies ( sept. 11 ) was all started with a an airplane getting high jacked with a Utility knife, or box cutter. That goes to show that even with the highest of security and when GUNS are out of the question.Evil will find a way to kill!!!
Great idea, let's let everyone take handguns on airplanes
Why are there so many Canadians and English people spouting off about how Americans should disarm themselves on this thread?
I"m Canadian and I fully support your 2nd Amendment rights. If all Americans disarmed the US government would run even more rampant than they already do. It's amazing what they already get away with in agriculture, medicine, travel, etc.
If piers has a problem with the gun laws here he is more than free to
go back to Europe.. I will keep my 3 AR15s,1 bolt gun,2 shotguns
and 4 pistols thank you very much.
The shootings this week have be horrible, But they were all done in
"gun free zones". Looks like them rules work great..
"reasonable guns legislation" only works when everyone follows the rules libs,
it makes me wonder why this eludes the left so much..
Never seen such a closed mind than a open minded liberal..
I feel that Americans with your views should just come to terms that this day is just another day in America. No point reporting it if your beliefs just remain the same in the end. SMH
Todays incident is a horrific tragedy. But the culprit here is not the gun. It's the lack of family values and lack of identifying these individuals who are in need of further mental and phsychological help.
If we disarm citizens from our right to bear arms, how can we be able to protect ourselves from criminals and wrongdoers in times of serious catastrophes. Again, todays incident is a huge tragedy and a very sad day for America. But instead of focusing and pointing the finger at gun control, we should strengthen family values that is the core to assisting these distraught individuals.
yah I see Nancy the mom had that work great for her, don't yah think?
Take away the guns! When you want to go hunting get a permit and a gun that has to be returned! The killing has to stop. What is happening to this country? Let's give it a try and turn in your guns! Then, we can talk out situations without killing people–innocent people! Listen NRA, get it together. Make new laws for hunting which is all guns should be used for.
How does one place enough gun control on guns to stop this type of senseless violence guns should know better than to shot people. Perhaps Mike Moore, Piers Morgan, and Rosie O'Donnell should be appointed gun zars, and while they fix all these gun issues in the world how about talking to your friends in Hollywood ask them to curb the violence on television and movie's, hey here's one how about putting a ban on the type of destructive lyrics in the music industry you know rap,song's like the ones that degrade young women, song's about getting BJ's and about putting a cap in someones ass. Yes I guess there is no evidence that the kind of things young people see or hear on t v has any effect on them out all, they just wear their pants down around their ass cause they lost the belt to them. I don't know what will stop this wagon from rolling off the cliff now that we have let this media and its whole filthy industry help tear down the moral fabric of our society but I do know this it won't get solved by those Hollywood fakes and thank God for that, hope that was not to politically incorrect. Try and understand this Piers if guns are outlawed then that means, okay now pay close attention to this a criminal who is about to rob someone or kill someone he is not going to stop what he is planing to do which is break the law because he realizes that if he gets a gun he will be breaking the law. I hope you got that, it's not the manner in which violence is carried out it's the violence caused by someones act.
well maybe the first gun control law that should go in effect would be that it is Mandatory to have your guns locked up in a gun safe at all times you are not using it??? Would have worked in this tragedy don't you think? He would have no access to them in the first place. Evolve people!
Pierce,
STOP being like those hosts on Fox News and other conservative talk shows. It is bad form to prevent those who disagree with your opinion from expressing theirs. I don't listen to only hear your opinion. I like to hear both sides and form my own opinion. You and Soledad need to rethink your approach and go back to the times when everybody's opinion mattered.
Why do ou invite people on the show and then talk over them. Your actions were disgraceful, and take away from any real discussion on gun laws. You looked like a moron pointing at a 223 rifle that was not even used. I am not pro gun, but also am not going to condone your disgusting behavior. You should be terminated, and exiled from this country. You are not an American in any way. Go back to your country!!!!!!!
Thank you Piers for your comments on gun control!!! How many more tragedies need to occur before leaders address the issue?
Thank you Peirs for your story on gun control. I agree with you 100% America needs more tough laws on these weapons. They should be banned. The type of weapons used today are made for war and law enforcement. I served in the military and those weapons were not made for people on the street. Look how many times this year that senseless acts in America. You do not see this kind of tragedy in other countries. I served in Germany three times and never seen this kind of tragedies there when i was in the military. Keep on getting this message out Peirs.
The saying "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" is really getting old. People with GUNS kill people.
People WITHOUT guns kill people too. When people like you get their heads out of the sand, they will see that guns is not the issue. Society is the issue. No values. Or maybe I should say, misguided values.
People with knives kill people,people with cars kill people, it's not hard to see where this is going ,unless you are blind to the fact that the choice of weapon does not matter,only that a choice was made...................
Yes you but assault rifles are meant to kill a lot people and have no other use cars are for transportation we need the knifes are used for prep food I sure hope the next person with assault rifles shows up in your kids school and see if you still going to sing the same tune
Thank you TJ...they need a new slogan for their baseless comebacks. This one is tired.
After watching a brief segment of the Piers Morgan show tonight, my husband & I had to scroll over to the Fox News Channel just to relax. Piers is so rude & arrogant to others. We will not watch CNN at night anymore or for as long as Mr. Morgan is on it.
wow...you really don't get it. And this is why these tragedies will continue to happen...absolutely no concern about anyone else but your feelings....
Good go back in your hole.... hug yur guns... they are more valuable to you then your fellow citizens anyways....
And crown thy good with brotherhood from sea to shining sea.....
Total BS.
morgan is a moron and should take his big mouth back to England were all you are aloud to do is pay taxes.
... back to England WERE all you are ALOUD to .... And you are calling Piers a moron!
My dad always has said "a lock will only keep and honest man out". Gun laws will do nothing but hurt the innocent people that won't be able to own one to protect themselves from the one who will attack them. The criminals or the unstable minded people will find a way to do what they intend on doing. I am licensed to carry and conceal a deadly weapon and I do every single day because you never know what will happen. I pray to God that nothing ever will but if it comes that time I am not afraid to use one to protect my family or myself or even the people I am around. If laws are put into place to get rid of guns how are we going to defend ourselves against those who won't obey those laws. Alcohol is completely legal but look how many drunk drivers kill innocent people but yet alcohol isn't banned. People need to step up and realize that times are hat and going to get harder so you need to protect what is rightfully yours. Criminals won't obey laws so putting them into place will only make it harder for us to defend ourselves when we are threatened.
a locked GUN LOCKER would have prevented this horrible tragedy. Don't blame the lock that was not there in the first place. Blame the irresponsible gun owner, you know, the one who had her guns turned on her and taken.
Mr. Slayer
I'm trying to understand how your mind works. I can't believe that you don't get it. This tragedy has nothing to do with guns, or whether they were locked up. The tragedy is that one sick individual had absolutely no feelings for human life. He didn't care or value a single person in the school. No one will probably know what it was that set him off, but don't you think that would something to address instead of blaming human actions on inanimate objects? I mean really, where does your philosopy come from. Most Americans want and value peace. I fear everyday for my children and grandchildren but you can rest assured, I want the capability to protect them if I need too.
A warped mind scares me more than unlocked guns or guns in general. Ask yourself this question, If all the guns in the world magically disappeared and there was no means to make new ones, would you want this crazy man living next door to you? Be honest. He does not have access to guns so you should feel safe right? Come on use your brain and rationalize the situation. Most people are not violent. There are millions of us who own guns and are happy and enjoy life everyday. Other than my service time in the military I have never witnessed a violent crime. It's because I choose not to put myself in those situations. But, those that do are usually part of the criminal element and that is what gets reported on TV. Why doesn't the media report on the nicer things in life. Could it be it's because they have a following of people like yourself that want to eliminate guns? I really, hope you know and trust your family and neighbors because from what I've seen here, if you live by what you say, you will probably become a statistic. Bad guys, seek out people like yourself and target them, so my advice to you would be first change your online name. Dragon Slayer sounds pretty violent to me. and anyone who calls themself a slayer then argues against just seems contradicting to me. Second, learn about guns, maybe your fear of them comes from not knowing about them. Take a class, learn to respect them and learn their value and importance before you decide to get rid of them.
Bravo! Thank you for having the courage to confront the NRA. Guns are designed to kill people! It is that simple.
micki, guns don't kill, people do. Remember, it was good men with guns who cleared the wild west of bad men with guns.
"guns don't kill, people do. Remember, it was good men with guns who cleared the wild west of bad men with guns."
just goes to prove that dumb gun owners make bad candidates for ownership. Part of that responsibility is to LOCK THEM UP. That should be law.
No, I think it was bad men with guns who killed good men with bows and arrows that cleared the wild west...
I beg to differ guns were designed to kill food like bows and arrows were used by the indians, but some idiot found out it was easier to shoot someone than to hit them over the head with a club. Oh they still use clubs, knives, rocks and any other thing just lying around you know how murders are.
Piers,
Piers,
YOU are WRONG sir! Not because of your point, everyone has the right to their own opinion in this country. Actually, the occurrence of this event encourages me to change from not owning a gun to now obtaining one. Difference in opinion is perfectly fine The fact that you SCREAM over your guests and belittle them when they have an opinion different than yours is horribly wrong, to the core of what the role of a news anchor is supposed to be. You have snugly fit in the very cliche horrific pattern within today's media. It is not your job to scream your opinion over the air. You are supposed to hold the integrity as an unbiased newscaster, and your opinion not needed or wanted when the news is to be reported. I've watched you over several months, many times agreeing with you, many times disagreeing with you. Unfortunately your verbal bullying falls in the same range of the Nancy Grace's of the air waves, and finally, you have completely lost my respect.
No one even said he used the 223 bushmaster. He used the pistols they said. They found the 223 in the car. You came off like a crack pot in your interview tonight. You are an embarresment to cnn and really need be replaced.
Piers!
Bravo tonight!! I never comment on issues but when I saw you yelling at those gun lobby guys I was cheer you on!!! Please keep pushing this issue! Soon, the cameras and reporters will go away, no one will be paying attention, we will all go back to our normal lives and then it will happen again. Very sad...
Piers you are a big mouthed idiot! Can't believe ou went straight to gun control. It's disgusting! If even one person had access to a gun n that school the death toll could have been reduced! Do you really think getting rid of guns will work..it will just make it harder to protect ourselves from the evil people with illegal guns!
Piers-
You ARE the DUMBEST ! ! ! !
The strict gun laws in other countries DON"T stop shootings PERIOD.
What about the shooting a few months ago in Toronto Canada at the eaton centre mall in the food court????? That was a gang shooting STUPID. Toronto a place with VERY,VERY STRICT gun laws.
Not strict at all, well maybe compared to the U.S. Canadians can own a gun for hunting and for protecting their homes. We will be denied a gun license if there is a mental ilness, criminal record or a history of extreme aggression.We are even allowed to possess hand guns with proper training and licensing. Piers wasn't saying get rid of all guns...just dont make it so easy for everyone.
Gun control works in Canada – most shootings are done with smuggled guns, not legal ones. Having an abundance of legal guns makes it easy for wackos to buy a gun and shoot up a crowd. In Canada, most gun crimes are perpetuated by gangs... which get 85%+ of their guns (smuggled) from the US...
good point, but keep in mind Toronto is right across the border of the US, where guns are available and easily accessible.. bottom line, where there's a will there's a way, but fighting fire with fire isn't going to put the fire out, only cause bigger flames. it may take years, decades, but taking guns out of the equation clearly lessens the risk of falling victim to a GUN scenario(s).
Piers, With all due respect I think your view is skewed by your own perception of how things exist. Your perceptions are your own and are valid because they are your reality, however it is your own not others. Action against gun owners is not the answer. People kill other people, not guns. Someone has to pull the trigger. If that someone is a nut ball, we should fix that, not the gun.
Your logic means that rocket propelled genades, bazookas and flame throwers shoud also be legal. Get a grip.
Piers
I have moved to California from Australia having served 23 years as a policeman in Victoria, many as a Detective.
President OBAMA has this time in history to tighten gun control and takes a stance for humanity and further more, common sense.
Couldn't agree more with you regarding your stance re gun laws in this country. We all have the right to walk the streets without fear someone of unsound mind will open fire on innocent people.
The gun lobbyist just dont get it, no-one requires a semi automatic in their home.
see what happens when you live in a bubble your whole life. You don't see what's outside of it. The problem with America.
Blaming guns for these incidents is like blaming cars for drunk driving accidents. We don't need gun control we need people control. And as for Mr. Morgan's question as to why someone would want the .223 Bushmaster is because, like they were trying to tell him, is that, that weapon is no different than the 30.06 deer rifle in many homes, except that the 30.06 is actually a more powerful round. Finally to punish the legal and responsible gun collectors, and hunters for the action of a very small percentage of the population is just wrong. Heed a warning once we allow Liberals to ban one type of gun they wont be happy until we are all defending ourselves with rocks and sticks.
I couldnt't agree more. The speed limit in the county is between 55 and 80 MPH yet we buy cars that are capable of 2 to 2.5 time s that. Sometimes we buy things because they are just fun to have. As a consumer in a free society I will continue to bu many things just because i enjoy owning them. HOWEVER, if i get drunk and drive that car too fast and injure someone else or damage property I am responsible for my actions NOT the alcohol manufacturer nor the automobile maker. The same holds true with guns. If I use them for heinous acts or injury someone or something do to my negligence or decision to do so I and only I am responsible and I and only I must be held accountable!!!!
I couldn’t agree more. The speed limit in the county is between 55 and 80 MPH yet we buy cars that are capable of 2 to 2.5 time s that. Sometimes we buy things because they are just fun to have. As a consumer in a free society I will continue to buy many things just because I enjoy owning them. HOWEVER, if I get drunk and drive that car too fast and injure someone else or damage property I am responsible for my actions NEITHER the alcohol manufacturer nor the automobile maker. The same holds true with guns. If I use them for heinous acts or injure someone or something due to my negligence or decision to do so I and only I am responsible and I and only I must be held accountable!!!!
Mike, forget about the rocks and sticks. If they outlaw guns and we don't have them, the criminals will. And rocks and sticks won't do much against a gun held by a drug dealer or robber.
apparently having all these law abiding gun owns today didn't amount to anything either. Funny how they are conveniently never around when someone needs one. I See how that's working for yah. Stop being scared of the boogie man.
Tell Piers Morgan that the reason we have guns in this country to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government. Like your English King George. Or modern day Syria, or in very recent history Germany. Not to mention all the other tyrannical governments in Africa, commiting genocide. When the government starts putting people in ovens again like Germany only 60 or so years ago, we can fight back with our semi auto weapons. The Tree of Liberty must be replenished sometimes with the blood of patriots and tyrannts. In the words of the founding father of the United States of America Thomas Jefferson. Piers you wouldnt understand that being from ENGLAND!
And being from Canada, I don't understand.
And our Australian friends ..... they don't understand.
And our Norwegian relatives ..... they don't understand.
The civilized world DOES NOT UNDERSTAND.
If it so damned civilized everywhere else how come you all keep coming to America?
Speaking for VancCanadian....because the crap is cheap. Other than that, yall nuts!
@taz: buddy, again you are misguided. look up the numbers. Vancouver/Toronto/Sydney, to take few examples, have more immigrants than any u.s. city. Education my friend, education. Please press your govt for more funding for education, controlling guns and a basic level of medical care. I am sure americans cannot possibly feel good about having a fear of getting killed in the streets of NYC/Detroit/Baltimore/Newhaven in the evening.
You are one paranoid dude.
You must be civilized.
What a abusive interview nothing good comes from abuse it will take a collective effort of all Americans that we are fed up. Americans have elected our staff in Washington who just don't give a damn. The blood of these 20 children and 7 adults are on their hands. All gun laws are approved and lobbied through this body of idiots.
What a pampas ass if you don't like america leave. how about look at how the laws have failed. How about ask all the people that you that have lost loved ones to guns if they had a gun would it have happened? You are a perfect example of the drones.
Amen!
Isn't pampas a kind of decorative grass? Sorry, couldn't resist.
Most non-americans find much to like about your country. But can't you see this one aspect of your culture is BIZARRE and OUTRAGEOUS?
I agree with Taz. When your countries are getting invaded defend yourselves how you see fit, but don't ask for our help. We will be lined up along the border with our guns.
Thank you SOOOOO much for taking such a firm and passionate stand with those morons you had on your show tonight. I am sick to my stomach about this. PLEASE keep the conversation going!!!!!!
Thanks Pier for being the voice of reason about gun control. No one should have an AK47 or that type of automatic weapon. It is ludicrous to think we need those type of guns in our society. Americans have been led around by the nose by the NRA for the last decade it is time for a change. It's time we stopped listening to the select few and did something for the safety of all of us. You can bet if this happened to Congress we would have a new law in the morning banning those type of guns. Absolutely heart breaking what happened to those school children.
You need to do a little research (Not much) and stop believing everything you hear from the liberal press. It's nearly impossible to acquire an AUTOMATIC firearm; an assault rifle as we know it is nothing more than a semi-automatic (one round per trigger pull) rifle with a military design.
Funny how liberals never take responsibility for the violent culture they propagated.
Glad you focused on the kids!!!! Asked them what they think about the shooter having access to his guns!?!?! Opps...sorry, you can't ask them!!!
Ana, couldn't agree with you more.
Pierce, If you are so opposed to gun ownership in the USA...why do you live here? As you very eloquent put it, you come from a country where guns are restricted. My guns do not come out of my safe to kill people!
It's clearly NOT about YOUR gun. It's about the BIZARRE OUTRAGEOUS gun-worship in your country, which is really really ODD with regard to GUNS!!!
why is it that we can't ship a bottle of wine via the postoffice but anyone can have a gun shippped ?
I think it's time to have a serious talk about the mental health of our population and why these crazy people are slipping
through the cracks.
If someone wants to ship a firearm they must take it to a registered firearm dealer and have it shipped to another dealer.Same as wine.
Piers, just listened to your interview on CNN and I am totally discussted that you as a journalist would not let the professionals you were interviewing finish their thoughts without interrupting them this not professional.. Same on CNN for having such an unpro on their "team"
I totally agree Denise
Enough is enough! No more guns!
The simplest way to prevent shootings of any nature is to eliminate guns, not carry one at all times. It's a pretty simple equation.
Ya because criminals there known for following the laws! Lmfao
But the criminals in all the other developed countries where there is little gun violence MUST follow the laws then!
yahhhhhhhh?? I think that's logical???
You need to go back to school to understand the equation.
How many kids dying make a holocaust?
Have we really lost our senses here? If we can't keep children safe, then this is no longer the America, the United States,
my father spent his entire life protecting through his military service. Over the gates of the Army War College in Carlisle Barracks in Pennsyvania, Is an arch, with a motto, "To protect the PEACE".
Guns are not part of peace ...especially in the hands of civilians....Aloha
There is also a phrase that has been used since the first century. Even Ronald Reagan used it.
"Peace through Strength."
And to take a line from a movie, "Peace through superior firepower".
And not to post a long post, but try reading JFK Inaugural Address. He meant enemies abroad, but it could go to today's criminal also. Someone needs to take a stand against all this killing and nothing being done TO the criminals. And making a law to take away the guns is not the answer. The criminals would still have them.
Piers, thank you. You speak for me and millions of Americans. Enough is enough. Our politicians must stand up and show enough courage to take a stand against the gun lobby. Until we demand more of our legislators we are complicit in these heinous acts.
Get rid of him, ship him back to Europe. He will never let guest's finish a word when it comes to guns. I am just watching him for a 1/2 hour while waiting for another show every night. I watch CNN all the time, but he is a losser. We need a Larry King back. Please get him off the AIR.
Michael Thoren
602~377~8183
The Brits didn't want him either because of this.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3716151.stm
Piers, you have become my hero. Americans need to hear their obsession with guns is BIZARRE. I think this message comes effectively from someone from another country. Things DO NOT have to be the way they are in the u.s. Britain and Canada manage very well without gun-worship and money-raking gun lobbies.
That's a helluva statement coming from a place where there are a lot of people who have to hunt to survive. What are you going to do when that big ass bear is tearing your door off the hinges?
Oh lovely, another american who graduated high school, excelling in world knowledge..... well done 🙂
Sorry dude...you just showed your american ignorance...and this is the reason this type of horror will continue...
Sorry, I can't resist .... you found out that we're here in the vast empty wild spaces of the great uncharted park to the north 🙂
he wouldn't know where it is even if you highlighted it. You can't reason with the American educational system. It's by far surpasses anywhere else in the world. *rolls eyes*
so paranoid!!
ITS A CONSPIRACY, THE BRITISH, CANADIANS AND AUSTRAILIANS ARE CONSPIRING TO MAKE US A WEAKER NATION.
See how stupid things can become. It's simple, we are American's we will work out our own problems. It's none of your business so stay out of it. We think the way we think for a reason, mainly built on our history and how we were able to grow our nation and become independent. We value our guns because through our history we have learned the need to be able to defend ourselves. I'm not opposed to some stricter laws and yes people who own them need to be responsible with them. but if anyone, especially those from another country wants to weigh in and try and eliminate our guns, then it will be on like donkey kong.
I truly resent your stupid comments about other countries involvement with yours. Clearly you guys south have no control or vision on your own destiny. You and people like you are the US weakness all on your own. Look at the movies that are produced in Hollywood guns and violence. I saw a video on much music with girl shakin on a bed with a rifle. No wonder you guys are out of control. This is what you probally consider this entertainment for your familuy See kids its ok its your right. What if your kids were the next victims? I wonder how the shoe will fit then..Wake up and smell the coffee before the next massacre. Quit thinking only of yourselves and your rights. Easier to piont your finger at someome else than it is to point it at yourself. Change your values, morales and you might a chance of stopping the madness.
Izas,
Apparently you didn't learn how to read very well, or comprehend is more like it. Didn't you see where I said I would agree with stricter laws, and that people who did own guns need to be responsible with them. Guess you missed that, you were so eager to personalize and make my comments the cause for the way American people are. That's how narrow minded you people are. Why aren't you blogging about other countries. I'm almost positive there are many out there in worse shape that the U.S.
It's really ashame that we can't all just get along. But I'm so resentful that it probably won't ever happen. As for my comments about your country, I'll stand by them. Would you like me to try and impose my will or opinion on how thing should be done or handled in your country? I doubt it. So why are you so eager to impose yours on mine? Maybe we should let this dispute about guns go. Maybe we can discuss social medicine, I don't agree with that either, but Canadians love it. Yet, when there's a real problem they come here for help. And they come knowing we don't have very good gun control methods.
The solution to this debate is simple, stay in your country and keep your comments about mine to yourself. We don't need your help. We are a happy people for the most part. And, I want to be able to defend my principles if it becomes necessary.
tPatriot,
Thank you. I guess Izasw didn't get the sarcasm. I think you're on the track. Like you I think there should be stricter gun laws and I absolutely agree that gun owners, such as my husband and I, have a responsibility to keep and use guns in a responsible way.
Other countries, just don't get it. That's why we are who we are and they are who they are. They didn't have to fight for their freedom. But, if that freedom is ever threatened, the U.S. and people like us would be their to defend their rights. And while they will never admit it they are happy we have their backs.
Oh, I don't think they should have a say in our issues either, but if they want to discuss on the subject then I think they should have an clear understanding of why we feel about our guns the way we do.
I'm with ya tPatriot...
Yep, let'm keep their opinions to themselves. We got this. I'm sure other countries with gun laws have the same problems. It's just not publicized as much as our country.
Pierce you are absolutley right a debate needs to open up on weapons. My take is different than yours. When the shooting started the Principal and a Pycologist ran toward the gunshots. Why are we not allowing school Prinicpals and teachers to be armed. They have to undergo background checks. They care for the children that we entrust to their care. They would be willing to protect the childrens lives with their own. This was shown in this shooting. Six adults who were in the schools administration gave their lives. The police were as usual to late. If one of them had been armed we might not be talking about 20 dead children.........something to make you think when you realize that CT had some of the most stringent gun laws.
I was watching your show just now and am confused about why you focused so much on the rifle. If i'm not mistaken, this was found in a car in the parking lot. The handguns were in the building. I'm sure light will be shed on this issue in the upcoming weeks but to me it seems like this is just being used to focus on gun control, as can be seen in the comments above.
Thanks I hope i wasn't the only one to notice this stupid assumption on his part..
oh let us not forget he had GUNS AT ALL!!! Boy the over site is killing me.
Dragon,
Let's not forget he was wearing battle fatigues too. I'm sure that has something to do with it. Maybe we should go after the manufacture that made the cloths that made the man who stole the gun from a woman who legally owned them. We don't know for sure the guns were unlocked, maybe he stole the key to the lock, maybe we should go after the locksmith who sold the woman the lock. Sarcasim really suck doesn't it. but are you starting to see how you look to others. Your arguments are weak at best. I can understand your stance, and in an idealic world it might work but we don't live in that word do we? The problem is bigger than a lock or gun. And how can you blame the mother, maybe he killed her because she was trying to stop him. How can that make her the criminal? Try and think things out before you speak, maybe you can make a good argument that people will listen too. I open to valid solutions, but it sounds to me you are simply voiceing your opinion with speculation and can't find the word to describe a real solution.
how tragic that your all missing the point, 26 people were murdered, and your making a bunch of insensitive comments about where to place blame! Your country has a long way to go.
Thank you Piers. First, our thoughts and prayers go out to alll who lost loved ones today. Nothing we can say will ever bring them back. The rest of the world gets it. Quite frankly, most of us sit back and laugh at those in the States that continue to spew this drivel about the right to carry guns. Idiots!!! I have many American friends that think this mentality is ridiculous. Unfortunatly, nothing will change until politicians get the guts to stand up to the BS and do something about it. I'm not holding my breath.
I cant believe they let that dumb British retard Piers Morgan get on AMERICAN TV and tell everyone watching CNN that they need to completely take away all the guns in this country, and absolutely no one ever needs to own a shotgun or assault and or hunting rifle in there home. Go back to England preach that trash. If the government plans on taking our guns they better take the cars away to because 4 times more people die in car accidents each year than get killed by guns.
Big difference is car ACCIDENTS kill people. Mass gun murders are not an ACCIDENT.
Saw your show tonight for the first time which will also be my last. I was anticipating a discussion/debate on gun control as a result of of the resent tragedy in CT, however only heard you yelling at your guests. I'm not a gun owner however i have always viewed debates as a way to provide more information to either support your thoughts or enlighten you with new information in a respectful way, however yours was just a loud temper tantrum with total disrespect to your guests. I believe you only had your own agenda and displayed lack of ability to maintain an impartial presentation as a reporter.
I don't get the need to own a gun, why? I live in Canada, in a lot of regards very similar to the US, but I believe that as a society in general we have very little interest in guns and the need to own one. I have never held or seen a gun and have no desire to either, and I would say a large majority feel the same. We have gun violence, but not nearly the epidemic that the US face. I'm so tired of hearing "guns don't kill people, people kill people", yes a person must pull the trigger, but why is it so easy to own weapons.? I just don't get it, how can can any reasonable person say that guns are not a big part of the problem. Why does the US have so many mass killing related to gun violence. I just cannot understand this, I guess this is not part of Canadian culture, the need to own weapons, thank God.
I can tell you one thing for sure, if the Russians ever decided to cross the pole and and expand into your lovely country, you would be begging our gun-obsessed asses to save yours. If it is our "love of guns" that drives the epidemic of gun violence you should be thanking us for our sacrifice as it's that same love of guns that makes many people volunteer for the armed services.
Piers, I just watched your last segment tonight on gun control after the atrocity that happened today and I must say – FINALLY someone stood up and said something! It is time to GO OFF! just like you did. Your first guest was totally misinformed and misspoke. His statement was that in areas where guns are banned is where most of the crimes are are
– and he brought up the island of Jamaica. (and encourage you and your team to research this further as you will see there is a lot of history and lots of TRUE data findings about gun control there). I am from Jamaica now living in the US and I can tell you that your guest grossly misspoke in this regard. Jamaica IS the MURDER CAPITAL of the world. No, not the middle east, not Somalia, not some ghetto in a far off land – JAMAICA! and why is this so? GUN CONTROL! went out of control when dirty politics took guns from America and other countries (since no guns are manufactured in the country at all...) and PLACED these guns in the hands of criminals for political power during elections to move people into directions of voting for a side. The problem in a nutshell was when the criminals got enough guns for free they did not need politics anymore and the ones with the biggest guns took power so now, years later we have situations of mass murder daily in Jamaica and most never hear about it outside the country. The Christopher Dudus Coke situation was a perfect example of gun control mishaps since your guest wants to talk Jamaica and guns – if that is what everyone wants here... 70 plus dead, by snipers from within the community, police and national guard not able to do a thing... get ready. Gun control problems take time. Jamaica has been heading this direction since the early elections of the 70's and now, 40 years later.... this is what we get. If America can not get its guns under control.... I am gone back to Jamaica and taking my profitable businesses with me.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2012/12/15/pmt-ct-shooting-bts-gun-control-debate.cnn
Bye
Thank you Piers for trying to make everyone understand what needs to be done to put an end to these tragedies.
Wow you gun control freaks are so blind.
Connecticut has the 4th strictest gun control laws and look what happened!
Gun control laws won't stop incidents like this.
actually numnuts, the problem actually is the irresponsible gun owner who allowed someone to get a hold of her guns. If she had stored them in a safe to begin with, that city would still be murder free for over a decade from a gun.
I feel that Piers should go back to his country... point blank. You are attacking people that clearly can speak more about this topic than you. You are only a CNN reporter, nothing more. Yes Obama needs to step up and get things done, but he cant as long as the public is on his back about him being Muslim/black, whatever. We are more worried about race than being calm and working together. Wow, United we stand Divided we fall. Well, I guess that's a lie because we aren't united. Go Back to your country please!!!!!!! your ignorance is not needed.
your ignorance is not needed. too bad you cant go back somewhere
right back at you
I think Piers needs to do a little fact checking. Where did he get the information that there were over one hundered rounds fired from the rifle?? Last I heard on CNN the rifle was found by police officers IN THE CAR!! It was never brought into the school, just the 2 handguns. So which is correct?? Or is this just more of these so-called journalists spewing anything heard as fact??
Several TV stations have reported that 100 rounds were fired. Those were estimates by the people that were at the scene.
No more cars!
They kill far more people than guns.
Oh, you must have amazing guns down there.
I didn't know you could use them for transportation.
I bet you thought that was clever. You rascal you.
Van,
The point is that cars like guns are a means. This type of violence is not new, it has been happening since the caveman. He used rocks and sticks or whatever was available to them. So, you may now say, that I just made your point by saying it was what was available to them. Well guess again, if you eliminate the guns people will simply find another means. It's happened all through history. So why is that so hard for you Canadians to figure out? If your country has low crime rates with respect to guns, then what is the means used with respect to violent crimes in your country? Come on you have violent crimes what do the criminal use? Why aren't you trying to pass legislation to eliminate whatever it is that causes your violent crimes? Well?
so does cancer!
Piers, I have never been so upset in the way you handled this interview. You sounded like Nancy Grace. This is just a media grab for you. I have always been a very liberal person and am very hesitant about someone owning guns. But your interview put me over the edge. Everyone in America should have the right to bear arms. That is what this country is founded upon. What happened was an absolute tragedy. If you restrict the God-loving people from carrying firearms you open the path for the hoodlums that will get them no matter what. I don't care if it is a small gun or an assault rifle, it is our right to carry those. It is because of your interview tonight, that I will go purchase a gun tomorrow and take classes on how to handle this weapon. Also, because of your interview, I will join the NRA tomorrow. Thanks.
75000 people (avg) per year die from alcohol related deaths.. in 2010, 8775 deaths were caused by firearms. Now then.. lets get a handle on alcohol first, Guns have no right or wrong, and cant tell good from evil, its the person pulling the trigger that determines that.. Keep guns out of the hads of the WRONG people. Turning out laws about gun control, will only regulate law abiding people, it has ZERO bearing on gangs, felons, or people that intend to do harm...
I see you can read the NRA pamphlet....
Here are the real stats for 2010
•In 2010, 10,228 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (31%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States.
Firearm homicides
•Number of deaths: 11,493
•Deaths per 100,000 population: 3.7
So as you can see that number is higher. My source was the CDC by the way....
The CDC, the organization that says 30,000 people die from the flu annually? LOL, great source.
Why are we having the wrong conversation here? Stop allowing MD's to prescribe psychiatric medications like candy that are known for suicidal and violent thoughts. Nowhere else in the world has as many kids on psychiatric medications as the USA. Guns don't kill people, people on psychiatric drugs kill people.
Long time ago, if you committed a crime, you was either hung or shot. Other countries cut our hands off for stealing... We need to have stiffer punishments in the United States ... No more death row, wasting tax payers money... Kill them slow...you kill someone, you should be killed... You steal and rob someone... Cut a finger off for each offense...all the courts do is slap you on the wrist...lock you up for awhile, then u get out for early parole...if that doesn't work go after the lawyers that try to get the guilty people off the hook... There just as much to blame too!!!
Great program by Pierce
1– without assault rifles massacres will surely be avoided.
2– our children need basic life skills taught in school. How to be a father, mother live in society, nuture a family. This divorce epidemic has lead to many unstable homes. Enough of this loveless society
Way to pas the buck!!! Rather than be responsible for raising your kids to have good life skills and to educate them through example as their parent you would rather pass that responsibility off on the school system. Please tell me your not a parent nor intend to be!!!!
Thank your Piers for your words tonight. Don't know why it takes someone from Britain to tell it like it is. Thank you for having the balls to confront the idiots that think everyone should be able to carry guns around. We clearly don't need assault weapons in the hands of anyone other than those that are at war. There was an incident at Casper College a couple weeks ago where a young man that had been living in Connecticut came to Casper, Wy, stabbed and killed his girl friend, shot his father through the head with a cross bow while he was teaching a math class at Casper College and then stabbed himself to death. He tried to get a gun before he left Connecticut but he was denied. That denial saved many lives at Casper College. I believe he had the same mental disorder that this killer today. Check out this Casper, Wy story and report on the difference in outcomes. Thank you again.
Pierce, surely you are a smarter man than what you appear. Do you HONESTLY think that gun control is going to solve the issue of a child shooting 20 children and 6 adults..... you lose control on your show, and pontificate at people to "get control of guns"...we have a bigger problem then that. As parents and human beings, we need to look at why our children feel the need to be violent. Why they have to act in a violent way to be heard and noticed|""? How, as parents, can we not see the signs that are children are sooooo messed up? Are we that busy that we can't see the signs? That we don't have a clue what the signs are? and you have the audacity to raise your voice that gun control is the issue??? isn't that simply passing the buck???
The u.s has 22 times per capita the gun violence of the next most violent developed country. How can americans not hang their heads in shame about their country? ..... your culture just killed 20 innocent little ones!
I am ashamed of our country today. I'll bet that if gun control is brought up in congress they will vote against it because they will worry that this will affect their next election. No guts. No conscience apparently.
Thank you Mr Morgan give them hell you were so right thanks for standing up to them idiots know one should had any guns like that the problem is a mental health problem and them guns please keep up the fight we are with you and the N R A and the republicans are wrong and the american people would back you and are president. Thank you Bruce Wayne
A mentally challeneged (autism)killed his mom by stealing her guns. Conn requires a cetficate of eligibility to own a handgun. Takes about 60 days to get. Rifles require a 14 day waiting period. It is illegal to sell, transfer or loan anyone a handgun under the age of 21!
Shooter was 20. Guess he was not aware of the the laws in place. The shooter at the mall, stole the gun. You people that think guns are the problem are pathetic. There are indeed 300 million guns in the USA. But most of the murders are in Chicago, DC, Detroit, NYC and La. These actually ban handguns. So if co tell is so effective why do 80 percent of the orders happen there's? Simple, criminals don't pay attention to laws. Yup....new flash. It is illegal for anyone under 21 to own a handgun in most states. Guess what, most murders are teenagers killing teenagers with stolen guns. News flash again......
Go home piers. You were utterly wrong and devoid of having a conversation.
Ahhh,,, maybe thats why we need less guns.
Criminals and those looking to kill are not law abiding as you mention. Neither are people with mental disorders. But if they could not find a gun so easily we would not have such a problem. When people have weapons that are more powerful than the police why do we need police and laws? if that was the ideal then we each should get a gun at 18 like a drivers license and a pack of bullets and be sold no more. How many times has your home been broken into... I highly doubt over 5 times – for anyone... so a 6 shooter would suffice for your protection. Also if bullets cost 100 dollars a bullet even freaking criminals would think twice about shooting and would only do it out of extreme need.
Right..... Cause there is no illegal gun trade lol
Piers, first off you are a disrespectful to your guest and to the people who do net agree with you. You sound like a dictator and maybe you are. Its appalling whats has happened, I have kids and I couldn't imagen the pain. But its sicking to me the way you blame guns and not the person. When people decide to kill they will use any weapon available, including vehicles, knives, swords, explosives, hammers and so on. I don't hear you calling for a ban on fertilizer and diesel fuel, where you here when Timothy McVeigh blew up a federal building? And im sure you have body guards who pack semi auto weapons, and are trained and licensed to use them and your OK with that . Well I Am the body guard of my wife and my kids, I also own semi auto weapons and I am also licensed, registered and trained. I believe I have more of a right to own firearms to protect my children more so than a body guard of someone who brings negative attention on there self, like you.
BS. I am tired of the stupidity of the phrase "guns don"t kill people, people do." Really! If that young man went in with a knife to kill , many or most would have escaped. Also, in many home invasions. people are not sitting, holding their guns. We need very strict gun control, period!! What more does it takes? I have not in the past been a Peirs Morgan fan, but I am firmly in his corner now. We need more of responsible reporting on tv to break this damn gun lobby!! We are the USA, not the USA, inc. . We must protect our children from the idiots like you!!!
Ok. The NRA and gun lovers are always comparing guns to cars. I agree. Lets make it so you can have all the guns you want. I a mean it. All you want. But you have to have liability insurance on every one. You have to maintain that insurance just like a car. If you get sued, you are responsible for the damages awarded above and beyond your coverage and bankruptcy will not get you out of that award just like copy write infringement, student loans, and Irs obligations. We will call it personal responsibility, a favorite word the NRA uses. I bet insurance companies would do a better job of vetting gun ownership than what we have now.
And as I said, I didn't know you could commute in them.
I can agree to that, you made on of the best arguments yet.
But there are thousands if not hundreds of thousands driving with out insurance.
Let's play the game. I say get rid of cars, guns, knives, spones, towels, belts, bats, rope, and anything that can be turned into a weapon.
Come on people, it will never end. Wise up. Our problems are deeper than gun control or how many people are killed by cars. The NRA only uses that as a tool to show perspective not to say car deaths are a bigger problem than guns, but in reality they do cause more deaths, but these deaths aren't as important as the ones committed with guns. You think gun control will save lives, and I'm sure it will save some, but in reality, the criminal element or disturbed person will always find another way. What scares me, are people who commit these crimes not guns. Ask yourself this question, if all guns magically disappeared and there were no means to make new ones, would you want the killer of the CT children living next door to you? I mean you should be safe right, there aren't any guns. Come on, let's get to the root cause, only then can we all feel safe again.
We clearly need gun control law to make it more difficult for people to get guns and we need a ban on assault rifles, I agree. For the people that think that everyone should hand in all guns then at the same time we need to ban all video games with guns, all TV Shows with guns, and GET THIS, ALL HOLLYWOOD MOVIES WITH GUN VIOLENCE. It is only right that if we take everyone's guns we shouldn't see video games, TV and movies. RIGHT?????? Yeah, TELL HOLLYWOOD THAT ALL GUN MOVIES ARE BANNED AND WE WILL REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. CAN WE BE A SOCIETY THAT CAN TAKE EVERYONE'S GUN AND NOT PLAY IT OR WATCH IT FOR ENTERTAINMENT???????????
Dude, I think your caps lock key got stuck?
Here in the UK, we see all the same movies you do and enjoy them without our guns just as much as you enjoy them with yours. I won't go blaming the movies and the video games and the whatever, because we see the same, and play the same, yet over here, we don't have random people shooting up our schools. Why? Well that is probably because we don't have the guns to do so – so the thought doesn't much cross our minds.
99.999% of gun owners do the same thing, only a very few actually use them to murder children.
Your shouting at Mr. Lott adds nothing to the debate and shows nothing but knee-jerk emotion and hoplophobia. It's a poor return to someone with the guts to go on a hostile forum and make a quiet rational argument backed by fact and research ,rather than yelling and drowning him out. It is loutishness I would expect from Bill O' Reilly or Rush Limbaugh! This phobic response of yours and the like, cause me and others on Mr. Lott's side to distrust you and others on your side as much as you denigrate us.
I've been watching Piers's show for quite a while and am quite dismayed at how arrogant he's become as of late.
This evenings discussion on gun control was an embarrassment. Inviting guests with opposing points of view but not allowing them to speak, not allowing them to respond to the questions, cutting them off and speaking over them.
Would of been nice to hear the responses of his guests and less of Piers's mouthing off.
I thought I accidentally tuned into Fox. The might have a spot open for him there if he keeps this up.
Jgl.... (all for gun control and for freedom of speech)
I agree with you completely. Piers wasn't professional–he was entirely too emotional.
you are a complete moron! all I saw today was ignorance! First off he did not have those guns LEGALLY, He stole them from his mother and then murdered his mother who had them legally! Make your statements correct! Removing the guns is not the answer, educating gun safety, and using the right to bare arms for protection! I will gladly go to jail for killing someone if it meant saving others...saving my children or any child...e blame the guns and not the person? He chose to take y the lives of 28 people...the gun didn't make him do it!
I applaud Piers on such a spirited debate. I can't remember another panel show where the debate got this heated and we need to hear more of this. Piers brings the British perspective to this issue and it is refreshing to hear it.
You can't have a civil society with semi-automatic weapons and automatic weapons all over the street. These are often used in gun crimes and the Police are not equipped to deal with this. Look at the challenge in bringing a civilized society to countries like Mexico, Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya when these weapons are in the hands of gangs, political activists, religious activists, the mentally ill and vigilantes.
The dialog must continue.
Your dumb there arnt automatic weapons all over the street, lol semi auto, and full auto are different. Almost all guns made are semi auto
Piers why engage this John Lott character . This man is the worlds worst apologist for mass murderers . This man resights crime stats that he has shaped to suit the sick conclusion he and his keepers , the NRA, want. A world of restricted gun use. This is a man who will probably die of gun violence in a sad irony. This tragic event would have been prevented across the border in Canada as each and every gun owner is required to have a locked cabinet for gun storage. Newtown massacre stolen guns, Murders at the mall in Oregon again stolen guns.
Take guns and violence will only get worse, and you will live to regret it... Criminals dont care about laws, and we only enable them to commit crimes! Since we wont have anything to defend ourselves with. And we leave ourselves open to a dictatorship, plus u try and take guns a civil war will break out. Every country that has taken them, violence has gone up
Thank you so much Mr Mogan you were so right tonight on gun control the problem is mental health problem too but know one should have the them guns like them thank you for standing up to them idiots like them we as the american people would stand with you on this and president Obama. Thank you so much. BRUCE WAYNE SUZA
You morons still don't get it do you? Guns don't kill people, people kill people!
get a better comeback.
Why do IDIOT gun lobbyists feel it necessary to LIE about Aussies? We Aussies are not 'suppressed,' like your biggest idiot Heston once said. In fact, the US has a THOUSAND times more gun-related deaths than Australia, or the rest of the western world. Actually the US is closer related to the child-kiling fields in Africa on a per-capita basis! Ask those kids there if guns helped them? Or the ones in CT!
Christian, you realize that you have no basis in fact, right? Australia has a per capita homicide rate of about 1 (per 100k); the US has a homicide rate of about 4 (per 100k); southern africa has a per capita homicide rate of about 30 (per 100k). The US may be somewhat higher than other "developed" nations in terms of homicides, but nowhere near as bad as you're making things seem. When it comes to overall violent crime, we're actually about in the middle of the pack, with many nations that outright ban the private ownership of firearms coming in well above the US. You can try to play to people's emotions all you want, but fact and truth will carry the day.
Good point. So what you are saying is where one does not have strict gun laws, i.e.; the U.S., the murder rate by a 'gun' is ONLY 4 times that of countries with strong gun laws? Great point! BTW...there is a difference between per capita murder rates vs gun-related murder rates...would be interested to see those figures, which is the point people are trying to make. Appreciate your point!
we create enough pain and emotional distress on ourselves, in our lives with the pressures we feel and put on are own shoulders carrying the feeling like you are trying to carry the weight of the world on your two shoulders, each day with general day-to-day stress in our lives, everyone has experienced their own kind of deep pain, and at one point has felt that deep pain that feels never-ending, like your world and life has shattered, the ground disappears from your feet and you feel like you just keep falling and cannot seem to pick yourself up, when u feel like your world has fallen apart at the seams.. and like a mirror has shattered in silvers across the barren lost and now empty floor of your pained heart.. how could anyone hurt, wound, or take a life and silence a beating heart made from god's love , how could someone violently put any human being and their families and friends, intentionally through that kind of pain by taking a loved ones life through violence. to commit an act of violence against a human with a beating heart full of life and with so much life left to be lived and experienced, heinous put someone through that type of pain is unthinkable to me... never mind just how can anyone hurt or put down someone and make them feel small and insignificant on this vast earth alone.. but to silence a beating heart.. and throw them into a world of pain they must feel they will never awaken from.. or feel that their life will ever be the same again after loosing someone you love to an act of violence is beyond my imagination, to take away someones life and exact pain on their families and friends and leave a them lost in darkness and grief i just do not understand how anyone can act out in violence against someone. like everyone in this saddened world at this dark hour, we've all felt pain earth shattering pains we've all taken bumps and bruises along our paths in life.. we've put ourselves through pain and learned from mistakes, i could or never would wish pain on anyone , hurt or even want to be the reason someone cries in the middle of the night.. and cries into their pillows as tears stream down their eyes into puddles that seem like their tears will not end and will fill a river in their deep pain, I ask god to forgive me of any sins i have committed during these dark hours , if i have ever hurt someone unintentionally i apologize deeply from my heart, i didn't and wouldn't want to cause anyone pain in their life.. my thoughts and prayers are with everyone and the families in newton ct. my candles will be lit tonight as i send prayers out in my now deep sad thoughts because something like this can again occur again in this day and age of our world... please god wrap your arms around these families and friends carry them in their time of need, try to put the pieces of there shattered hearts together and let them know there not alone, and we all have them in our hearts and prayers.. with love and prayer, Darcy Wark
I have a great deal of respect for you after tonight's show Mr. Morgan. What should be done now is to devote a show on how individuals can really help by contacting their congress people, senators, the president etc., and keep them accountable. Also, there are oraganizations that need your help such as the bradycenter.org, where they also have a search engine to find local organizations that you can help with gun control. People who care about gun control, please stop wasting your efforts arguing with gun nuts on the internet and ACT, then you will truly be able to look yourselves in the mirror.
I am so amazed at the type of fairy tale you gun control nuts live in!
You guys think strict gun control laws will stop these incidents but it's been proven a ton of times that they won't.
The state this happened in, Connecticut, has the 4th strictest gun control laws and proves that these incidents will always happen.
And stop blaming gun owners! Guns don't kill people, people kill people. When a person suffocates someone with a pillow do you blame everyone who owns a pillow?
last time I checked, my pillow was not invented for the only intention to smother. Guns only purpose is to kill. I LOVE PILLOWS 🙂
Dragon,
When I was in the army I used my rifle (true assault weapon) for many things. Oh and I slept with it too. Believe me on many occasions I was glad it was laying next to me. It's true a gun's primary use is as a weapon. It's what it was designed for. Your pillow however does have the same capability as any other weapon, even given the fact that it was not designed as a weapon. It can still kill. Your argument fails again.
Would someone please hit Piers over the head with an english muffin and bring him to some kind of common sense. I mean I think everyone feels a sense of frustration with what has happened to all the little angles and their teachers our hearts go out to all of them and their families, may God take them into his arms and hold them tight. Take care all we are all in this together love one another.
How come we don't see Pier attacking Obama and Eric Holder for "Fast and Furious" which was operated by the federal government and killed WAAAY more innocent women, children and men than all these mass shooting atrocities combined!!!!
Not about politics now, your moron....how about thinking about the kids!!!!
Awww name calling once again from a person who lacks the ability to illicit a formulated and concise argument. Nice to see that those women and children were less important than these ones. Sensationalism mandates that a mentally ill child who commits a heinous crime is more serious of an issue than the federal government pushing Semi-Automatic weapons onto the streets with the intent that they be used for political gain, and you see this as a political argument and not a criminal one? Okay!!!
Not about politics? Well it's definitely been made into politics!
Piers turned it into a political argument the minute the incident happened.
I own several guns, and I have been a shooter for sport and hunting since I was about 12, but I would not consider myself a fanatic gun owner who always needs to collect more, or who gets upset when gun control is mentioned. I wouldn't mind a greater degree of reasonable gun control, but I don't think that will be the solution in today's U.S. society.
Many guns have been owned by the public (both the mentally stable and ill) for many years in the U.S., but these sensational massacres did not occur years ago. There has to be one or more reasons other than unregulated gun ownership as to why this change has occurred. I think one reason is that our culture has changed to a more violent one because the behavior has been modeled to our developing youth for several generations now through movies, television shows, and video games. Violence by shooting and killing has been sensationalized as the popular way to react. The mentally stable will not carry out this violence, but the unstable can, and tragically sometimes do.
So now we have this violent culture with these massacres. We probably need more gun and weapon controls for the mentally ill, but first we also need to provide more legal ways to identify and control those with mental illness who could commit such crimes. But how is society going to do that? Where do we start, and where do we stop with laws? Widespread gun and weapon controls for everyone will not provide the solution we want. Our society has created a more complex monster of cultural violence that won't be easy to address.
The book of life, tells us why? (Daniel 9:13) *Isaiah 29:10 For the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and rulers, the seers hath he covered. *Numbers 4:20 But they shall not go in to see when the holy things are covered, lest they die. (Matthew 24:15) *Numbers 18:10 In the most holy place shalt thou eat it; every male shall eat it: it shall be holy unto thee. *2nd Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
NRA are big believer in this also....and?
Also in the news: (Widely ignored by the world's media) – A man wielding a knife attacked students on Friday at a school in central China, leaving 22 children and one adult injured, according to state-run media reports.
The attack occurred at the gate of an elementary school in the village of Chengping, in Henan Province. Police arrested the attacker, who they identified as local resident Min Yingjun, 36. It was not clear how old the injured children were, but Chinese primary school pupils are generally 6-11 years old.
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From March 23 to May 12 2010 there were 6 school childrenkilling incidents in China. All suspects were middle-aged men with an unsuccessful career.
On May 12 48-year-old Wu Huanming burst into a private kindergarten and killed 7 children and 2 adults with a kitchen knife.
April 30, in Shandong province Weifang villager Wang Yong beat five toddlers with a hammer, then set himself on fire with two other children in his arms
April 29, a man burst into a kindergarten in Taixing, Jiangsu province and stabbed 25 children and three adults.
April 28, a teacher carrying a knife broke into a primary school in Guangdong province in southern China and stabbed 15 students and a teacher.
April 12, a mental patient stabbed many primary school children outside a primary school in Guangxi province. 2 children were killed and 5 injured.
March 23, in Nanping, Fujian Province a man Zheng appeared to be mentally ill brandished a knife at the entrance of Luantong Nanping experimental elementary and continuously stabled and cut 13 elementary students. 9 children were killed. Zheng was executed 6 weeks later.
As no guns were used in the Chinese attacks even if we got rid of guns we would not stop these nutters. In China many schools now have patrol police with submachine guns escorting students to school and standing guard all day.
I know its science-fiction but what about gene manipulation in the future? If it was possible to remove all violent genes and create a "John Lennon" world with peace and love without hate, without borders and without anger? Would we? Should we?
And your point?????
There should be violence everywhere?
The point is that other things kill people too
jmm124567 yah but for agreements sake....the Chinese kids DIDN'T DIE
The kids did not die in China this time. But there were over 20 killed in 2010. Yes other things kill people, it "shoud" be harder to kill 20-30 with a knife than a gun. I am unconvinced stricter gun control would help. However it has not really been tried so I think the US could test it for a time.
I am from the UK but live in a hunting region of Sweden. Here the guns have to be locked up very securely. Maybe stricter controls on that in the USA would help. Spot checks that guns are secure.
However as others have said, guns don't kill people, people kill people. What about creating a society where these insecure people can get the help they need. All too often after these things it turns out the killer has been in contact with the doctors but not received the help he needed.
Or: Here is a thought. A GPS sender on every gun. If a gun comes within half a mile of a school the SWAT team is sent in and the school goes into lockdown?
Pierce, we see eye to eye on most issues. My prayers are for all those affected by this very tragic incident. Yet, I was extremely shocked to see you interviewing a mother and her young daughter, who survived the ordeal, a few hours after the shooting incident. I found it to be extremely insensitive and distasteful and showing a huge lack of respect and empathy for what the child has been through so recently. Why would you want to interview the traumatized child? We can only imagine the horror, the trauma, the shock. Yet, with this indiscreet insert, you showed that the news and story came first and the empathy and respect way second. It is not what the people who were affected need, especially the child. I also can't quite imagine why the mother would have consented to have her daughter on the air with her during your interview. Her excuse could be shock. What's yours?
I've heard enough about one's right to bear arms , it's beginning to sicken me !!!! "NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO OWN OR BEAR ARMS PERIOD!!!!!! If you have a weapon (gun rifle or whatever) Your INTEND TO KILL SOMEONE WITH IT!!!!!! Take away the right to own a weapon and YOU CAN'T KILL ANYONE -"HELLO!!!!!!
And THAT is how guns are viewed in the whole rest of the developed world.
But we understand america is the land of amazing exceptionalism.
Your right if you take away my gun I will no longer be able to kill you with a blunt force trauma, poison, stabbing, hanging, asphyxiation, or any of the other limitless ways of causing you harm I can come up with. You have won me over.
Yea cause there is no other way to kill people....lmfao
Umm helllooooo?
Guns are used for recreation too
yah to kill things other than humans....I repeat ... KILL things
Touche!
Piers, I applaud you for continuing the campaign against this senseless violence! I appreciate your justified anger over this issue......please don't give up on pushing this issue! I am a Southerner, who grew-up hunting, and still own my shotguns, rifle, handgun.........although, personally I choose to not hunt any longer. (I certainly have no moral nor ethical issues with those who wish to hunt! For me, I choose to no longer hunt.) However, have you ever seen dear meat or wild turkey which has been obliterated by an automatic assult rifle or a semi-automatic? If you enjoy eating lots of metal shards, then I suggest using these type weapons to hunt with!
My point is this, however.......... I am a white, Southern, Evangelical, Conservative male...........however I finally woke-up to the fact that The Republican Party has no longer become a political party, but rather a religious cult......which is why this Southern Conservative voted for President Obama. What I would like to see discussed is "Why is it that the party of 'Pro-Life', which has overwhelming support of Evangelicals, not 'Pro-Life' on all issues: (1) Unborn Child; (2) Pre-emptively attacking countries who pose no threat to the USA, nor had anything to do with 9/11; (3) Anti any form of gun control; (4) Anti protecting our environment while many seniors suffer from respriatory illnesses. I don't understand my fellow "Conservative" Evangelical friends and family here in The South continue to argue with me regarding some form of gun control?? It's absolutely baffling to me! My only explanation is that these "so-called" fellow conservative Evangelicals have been "brain-washed" by the "Repubican Mantra". People have altered their Judeo-Christian belief system in order to fit the religion of the Republican Party. Shouldn't it be the other way around?
So, I'd love to see CNN conduct an accurate and non-partisan poll which polls those people who claim to be "Evangelical" and ask them two questions: (1) Are you Pro-Life? (2) Do you believe in putting an end to this senseless violance and impose some form of gun control?
I guarantee you that you will see the answers to these two questions to be quite a paradox!
So, in conclusion, let's be "Pro-Life" while a child is in the womb; but once born, then "F'um" ....... the human no longer matters! What hypocrits!
Hope this sparks some dialogue!
I've use a mini 14 and anAR15 for years on deer and it doesn't tear up half the meat as my 30/06.The secret is being a good enough shot to kill them with one shot.You shoot turkeys in the head and you waste no meat.It sounds like you needed to quit hunting.One shot,one kill
Hats off to you man. Thank you for having the guts to speak up. Thank you also for not turning around the blaming Obama for this – saying he caused it by being more liberal, claiming he is going to take away the freedom of owning a gun or turning around and blaming him for not introducing stricter gun laws after being in office for four years. Frankly I think it is up to people like PIerce, you and me to start a real conversation about these things. I don't claim to know the answer – but all I see is time and time again senseless murders by guns. That's it – pure and simple. You simply can't weed out the person who will next kill someone due to mental illness – as you know there is no brain scan or blood test you can do to screen for mentally ill persons. In a lot of cases you can't predict who with a mental illness is going to commit whatever crime. Even if you ban that person getting a gun – they would still be able to get one from their friends or family (as in this case) I suppose. On the other hand, I find it hard to understand why any person should have a gun at home. If there is so much violence and crime in American society – shouldn't we be addressing that problem – like poverty, income disparity, jobs etc etc – instead of arming everyone with a gun and basically saying "if someone intrudes upon your space – you can shoot them dead". Basically that is what having a gun lets you do. Most people develop rage at different times of their life. Call it having a "snap" or whatever. The point is – there would be a lot less murders if people didn't have a gun their hand everytime someone "snapped". Really – I don't get why this is so hard to understand. Jessie Ventura came on TV saying that he would have shot the gunman at the Batman movie massacre – really people were taken by surprise there – there really was not time ot react. THe point is Mr Ventura was convinced that he could have prevented those murders if he was there. Of course he wouldn't have been able to – but he thinks otherwise. It is these people that we need to be able to have a sane argument with – and that is not going to be easy. So thumbs up to people like you who are willing to have a decent conversation. Good on you man!
Piers,
Surely you can't blame this solely on guns. What about all these countries where people kill each other with machetes, rocks, clubs, garrotes.
Guns don't kill people, people kill people. You can lay a gun on a countertop for 10 years, it won't kill anyone. It takes someone to pick it up, and pull the trigger, before it will kill.
Don't blame it on the gun, blame it on the person!
Bla Bla Bla...wonder what the kids say about that cop-out comment!?!?!
Its true
i think all people that are pro – guns are ( cowards ) and stumble when they speak they will never be able to think of an excuse good enough to allow an innocent 8 year old child to be placed 6 feet under .
James,
Why are you blaming guns? Do you blame the baseball bat or knife or any other means to kill? No, it's only guns that get the attention.
Here's an idea for you, let's try to figure out how to stop the intent to kill instead of means to kill.
I am very sadened by what happened in Newtown, it brought me to tears, but I know guns are not to blame.
Stop blaming gun owners for this!
Piers you are very rude and you even deserve to be fired by CNN. Some of what you were saying are right but did you forget you invited these guests to discuss? At least learn to give some respect to others. If you think you know the best and ignore whatever others say, DONT INVITE ANYONE because that is an insult. Wise men know when and how to talk but they also know when to listen others. This is just not the right moment to fight over something dude. Very embarassing!
You are so right...he should invite the kids who were there...opps, but he can't!!!!
Chris, get a clue....that statement was wrong....blah blah obviosly we are saddened by this tradgety, but if a teacher was able to "conceal and carry " the carnage would have been stopped sooner !
Piers,
If you look at your Home Office statistics you will see actual gun crime in Britain has more than doubled since 1997, when handguns were banned – the stats are available on line. Furthermore, citing Britain as an example it's clear that more guns don't actually mean more homicides. The Swiss for example privately own, on a per capita basis, 8 times as many guns as the British, many of which are fully-automatic assault rifles, and yet the overall homicide rate in Switzerland is half that of Britain's. Looking at your other close European neighbors, both the French and Germans privately own 5 times as many guns as the British, and yet the overall homicide rate in France is the same as Britain's, and Germany's rate is 30% lower. So why do your close European neighbors who own substantially more guns than the people in your country, have the same, or lower annual homicide rates? I'm not saying more guns mean less crime, but what I am saying is that no correlation appears to exist. This isn't a gun issue, but a problem with our society. This was a terrible tragedy, lets hope our politicians focus on the real problems, rather than the easy scapegoat.
If it's NOT the guns, a "problem with your society" must be just THE BIGGEST understatement ever.
You clearly haven't read my post.
The British have one of the lowest gun ownership rates in the world, but yet their violent crime rate is one of the highest in the western world.
Where do come up with this crap are u the person that also believes cigarets don't cause cancer and the earth is flat
Show me these facts
Look it up, its true!
Look them up. It's all online.
I hope you want have to apologize like Bob Costa did. Looks like some gun control for automatic weapons maybe needed in the US. Why the school was not notified of the fact that the mother of this killer had illegals automatic weapons?
Jacques, no one said she had an automatic weapon. The mother owned a semi-automatic carbine, perfectly legal. And the real kicker is, IT WAS IN THE CAR! Wasn't in the building! Might as well have been at home.
Please check some facts, before you fall into the same category as ole Piers, being a sad blowhard who comes off as a pompous, ignorant, blowhard who has no business in civil discourse.
Richard, OK the firearms used by the shooter in the mass shooting today were legally owned and registered to the shooter’s mother, NBC is reporting
The fact is, her son took those guns and killed 20 kids!
Well done Pierce! You made history in TV news today.
Yes, BRAVO! Thank you for being an intelligent voice on u.s tv other than PBS.
Crime Statistics > Total crimes (most recent) by country
Showing latest available data.
# 1 United States……: 11,877,218
# 2 United Kingdom...: 6,523,706
# 3 Germany……..….: 6,507,394
# 4 France…………...: 3,771,850
Crime Statistics > Murders with firearms (most recent) by country
Showing latest available data.
# 1 South Africa….….: 31,918
# 2 Colombia…….…..: 21,898
# 3 Thailand……...….: 20,032
# 4 United States…...: 9,369
The overall crime rate in the United States is lower than in Britain but the Murders with firearms the US beat both Europe and Canada.
Gun Murders VS Total crime stats....ya that's the way to win your argument. *Rolls Eyes*
I am sickened and saddened to the core by what happened today. I've been a liberal democrat all my life and voted for Obama twice. I am also an NRA member and a gun owner. What do you suggest we do here in America, Piers? I read everywhere that you say we should ban handguns and "assault weapons," but millions of normal Americans such as myself own these guns. I do so because I've always loved the hobby and I have great pride in the idea that our nation is built on responsible citizens defending each others freedoms. Would you turn me and the other millions of gun owners in America into criminals? I pray my president doesn't go down that path. I pray that we as a nation can overcome our violence problem and our mental healthcare problem. I pray that we can find a solution that preserves our rights, tackles this violent selfish streak in our society, and strengthens our mental health system so that nothing like this ever ever happens again. Those of you bashing gun owners, please don't lay blame on those of us who exercise our rights to own guns and enjoy a hobby. We did not and would not ever do such a thing as this. Please pray for those families and teachers and first responders in CT. Please talk with each other and work together. If we work together instead of divide ourselves we can and will come up with a solution to all of this that works for everyone and we will become stronger and more united as a result.
Would you register your guns every year if would help prevent this kind of tragedy? Because we both know it would.
You might want to talk to the Canadians about this. Last year Canada sensibly abolished its gun registry, as they could find no evidence to suggest that placing a piece of paper next to a gun (in the form of a registration card) made that gun any safer.
How would gun registration had stopped the tragedy at hand?
what if this is due to ever one talking about the end of the world Dec 21 2012 and he feeled he was doing a good thing? he kill his mother than he kill the kids and than him self. ever one is asking why she had the guns she did. may be she feel the world was going to end, and to keep her self save she had them.
I happened to listen to Pierce Morgan go off on a "ban all hand guns rant" tonight and it was sickening to be honest. The man didn't site one statistic but instead flew into an emotional tirade calling the NRA freedom hating child killers. If Pierce wants to understand why the NRA won't bend an inch he ought to take a look at the second amendment banning left wing radical in the mirror!! He and Michael Moore and other left wing nuts aren't exactly rational thinkers but they do represent the radical left in the country and Pierces ignorant comments only make folks want to sign up for an NRA membership. My membership has elapsed but I will renew it tomorrow guaranteed!! A note to Pierce – I have the right to protect my family because the 2nd amendment guarantees that!!!
better watch out, you're kids may come and kill you with your own gun and then turn in on innocent children. Don't trip on your way to renew that NRA membership, it might kill ya too
Statistically that is more likely to happen than that you have to defend your home with your gun. Gun lobbyists don't like those facts.
Way Too Go Pierce !!!!!!! WoW I have so much respect for your values. I "ve always wondered why Americans are still playing cowboys and indians and shoot it up,and I 'm so tuff I have a gun. They should see how nice it is to live in Canada where guns have always been outlawed and we are not parinoid and do not think everyone is out get us . We do not live in fear cause no one carries a gun. Our gun crimes or very low in comparison. In Canada the people carrying guns are the police and crimInals. So I would like to know why in the US good people feel insucure without owning a gun . Its really sad . I beleve they are totally brainwashed. Wake Up America !!!!!!!!!
Wow are you kidding?
You just said in Canada the only people carrying guns are police and CRIMINALS.
Well there's one major reason why law-abiding Americans have guns. To protect themselves from criminals duh!
Don't you see that most criminals are not deterred by any of those guns in your home? The homicide rate in our country is the highest of all civilized countries. Your self protection doesn't work! If if would work, shouldn't we have the lowest homicide rate of ALL countries in the world? We are so far away from that, but you gun lobbyists just close your eyes from those facts. You elevate the right to bear arms above the right to live. By the way, nobody is talking to take away any guns from law abiding citizens. But make law abiding citizens take a test so we really know how law abiding they are. ( To drive a car, you need to do that and everybody is happy). Give them a 3 week training on the proper use of a gun and then pass a test, as the Swiss do before they give any weapon to their citizens. Or whatever, but we need to control gun safety much, much stricter than we do today and save thousands and thousands of lives.
Actually gun ownership in Canada is one of the highest in the world.
I was very happy to see Piers "loose his cool" on this issue and shout down the gun advocate on his show tonight. GUNS are the story here. The story is not "mental illness," or "motive." The press is generally very timid about talking about guns as the "real story." Congratulations to Piers Morgan (and to Bob Costas a couple of weeks ago.) Maybe the politicians will now have the courage to start talking about the real issue.
How many viewers did Piers lose tonight?
I'll start the count at 1.
Anger and arrogance from a journalist is a big turn off for me.
I just cancelled your "1".
I'm a new fan. It's great to hear intelligence on u.s TV.
I KNOW @LEAST 20 IN FAVOR OF GUN RIGHTS !!!!
I caught him at the right time on his show. This was my first time watching him on his show on CNN. And my last time too. So count me as #2.
#3 here.
Me, my father and brother are done watching him even though we barely do
That's #4,5 and 6
It's nothing more than tabloid news reporting.
Why is it that Democrats always say Republicans don't live in reality? It is really Democrats who don't live in reality. They live in some magic land were there are no poor people and no guns and everyone is equal. Get back to reality. Were always going to have poor people and were always going to have guns and shootings!
Thank you for your logical comments Piers.
It's a shame that this debate continues.
It seems fairly obvious that guns provide an easier and more efficient means to end life. That is, in fact, the primary purpose of a firearm. Promoting a pro-gun, gun-manufacturing and gun-wielding culture only endangers the future. It is objectively apparent that the United States has a higher proportion of murders and gun violence than other similar countries such as Canada, so why not adopt similar policies?
Piers and other narrow minded people, stop trying to go after the "means to kill" and go after the "intent to kill".
People can kill with many different things than guns; fertilizer, gasoline, knives, and even cars. A killer will kill, you might as well be able to defend yourself.
Guns are not the problem.
Maybe if people in this country would raise their children correctly, we may have less of these issues.
And Piers, if you do not like the laws of our great nation, you always have the option to leave. I know I will not miss you.
AGREED!!!!!!
What do the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and a society free of violence because they have no guns have in common? They are all figments of your imagination!!!!
SANTA CLAUSE NOT REAL?????????? Man you just burst my bubble. And I was looking forward to all those present he was going to bring to me. I have been good with my guns this year. LOL
Right on Taz
Guns & other forms of violence (including child-rearing practices) are a major problem in USA. Why are these "big strong men" so intent on carrying guns? I am female & have never needed a gun all these years. I just pray to God for my protection. I'd rather be killed than to live in fear all the time. And, what about our children-we send them out into the world every day without a gun! 🙂
Beverly,
While there is a problem in this country, it is realatively small when you look at the big picture. i have lived in this country for 58 years and I have never seen a violent crime in person. While, I do own guns, I have never even considered using them in a violent manner. Most of the time they are simply locked up, but I do like to target shoot and hunt.
What has happened is truly unfortunate and my heart goes out to the families of these childred. But honestly what could anyone have done to prevent this from happening? Someone with this kind of mental problems is always going to be lurking in the shadows. Like you i find peace through God and ask that he watch over me and my family. Seems to be working for me. Maybe if the killer talked with God his problems would have been solved too. I'm sure he would have at least acquired respect and value for human life.
In this country, the people have moved to remove God from schools, courts, government agencies, etc. Seems to me that is when all these types of problems surfaced.
On the internet a couple days ago was a story about a guy in china who killed 22 children with a KNIFE. See you don't need a gun to Kill!! If someone's head is'nt screwed on straight and they want to kill, THEY WILL FIND A WAY. I agree with the mental aspect of the argument. The type of gun used in these things (to me) is irrelevant !! years ago a couple kid's were picking off grade school classmates with their dads 22 rifle from sears( I think it was ) not a assault rifle.
Meanwhile in the real world, the knife attack in China only wounded 22 children.
This means that these Chinese families aren't burying their children, but rather awaiting their recovery.
Thank you, Piers for expressing your outrage at these ridiculous pro-gun groups and their outdated arguments! Your upset & passion echoed what millions of us feel in Canada, the U.S. and around the world. You have an opportunity in your position to keep pushing the envelope on this topic...hopefully change will come soon!
Outdated arguments? You live in a fairy tale. In reality incidents like this will happen no matter what. Gun control can't solve these problems. Connecticut has some of the strictest gun control laws and look what happened!
So far, in spite of repeated massacres lately, no one at one of these scenes had a gun. So the theory that if everyone had a gun, the killing would be reduced, has not yet been proven either way. Even though we have more guns than any other country, we are too scared to carry them around. People in general are Hoplophobic. Psychiatrists can cure Hoplophobia, but people with this affliction get the police to harass legal gun toters, so we don't carry them. One of these days, a legal gun carrier will happen to be at one of these potential massacres. We will then see if 'guns everywhere' will help or hurt.
And what is more likely to happen is the "trained gun holder" will either hurt themselves, or some other civilian.. .. Meanwhile more and more mass shootings happen. More mass-shootings occurred in the US, than anywhere else in the world combined. But there are no problems with the gun control laws right?
Sie können die Waffen nicht abschaffen, das kostet Arbeitsplätze in der Waffenindustrie...
let me start by saying my heart goes out to the families and community of this tragic event. I think that this problem is so much more than gun control and laws. Our morals in this country are declining more and more each year. Lets be honest here there are cases for gun laws that help some crimes or even save lives. BUT we know for a fact the guns in this country will never go away. Anything we do will not help stop criminals who are suicidal, determined to take others lives ! our culture and upbringing has more to do with it than anything.From video games the children play to tv shows and toys have as much to do with the problem then even guns. Here you are Piers saying ban guns and that's its crazy to own a ar15 ,well I got news for you. YOU and the rest of your media buddys have more blame than anything. How about we ban the 24/7 coverage that these tragic events get. You yourself contributes to spreading the word that hey if you kill people,WOMAN,and CHILDREN. we will show you to the world. we will make you Infamous and destined to be remembered for committing these dastardly shootings. But hey that's never gonna happen. media does alot of good also you will say. Its a necessity to know whats going on.Your right. Tv coverage and news of these crimes will never go away. But the mass shootings wont either. The guns you say should be banned are like the media. You can blame yourself as much as the weapons you demonize.guns can save lives and be useful Like all the law abiding citizens you will ridicule. you know whats good for them.Your the smarter one that knows what is right and wrong. You judge their character for wanting a gun to protect themselves or for sport.Well you will just say the media don't kill people. Well I have news for you my friend. Look at the DJs from that radio station in Australia.They essentially killed that woman. They didn't mean to hurt anyone. they didn't know her or anything. But the simple fact is that if they didn't call she wouldn't be dead. If the media didn't make it a world story, she would not be dead! I know you might think that is absurd ,but is it that far off?Am I lying?. You gotta be more thoughtful of other people wants and needs.what might be good for you,might not be good for someone else. Im not saying that gun laws wont work at all.There are times it works. But the fact is that they wont stop this from happening. What does help is society looking out for one another. know thy neighbor. be more vigil .Report people that seem dangerous. tell someone that you know something is gonna happen. There is no way someone didnt see the signs. This could absolutely have been prevented I think .Im not saying everything can be prevented. But we just dont simply have the tight nit communities like before social media and video games. . But I am saying the problem is much bigger than gun laws, and regrettably gonna continue. There are bad people out there. saying you cant own guns is not gonna stop a determined suicidal person from killing anyone. It wont help the countless people who have saved their lives or a loved one with a gun from a maniac bent on killing. I wish you would spend less time politicking a tragedy and giving other nuts ideas, and more time looking at yours and the rest of the medias part in why this country is so screwed up.For every time a gun has killed another has saved. Police can have a gun. people would say hey its crazy for a cop not to have one. Is it just as crazy for you or I to have one when we all know damn well that bad people do. Saying that big gun magazines and rifles should be banned are abserd. It will not change anything. Your crazy and ignorant if you think it will help. be honest with the public and yourself about what role that you and the media have in these times we live in and the tragedies that happen. My heart hurts for the children who will not have the life they should have.My hear hurts for this country that is losing its way day by day. Everyone please hug your children and loved ones and reach out to your neighbors and help prevent the needless lose.
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You'll learn all about them in fifth grade
Sorry for any inconvenience,I wrote it on my phone and it was hard enough to type on my screen.Were talking about a mass shooting of innocent children and your more worried about paragraphs? your part of the problem with the country and exactly what I'm talking about. Next time Ill remember that I went to 5th grade and the children that died didn't have a chance. That's what I'll take away from your comment. Or maybe your just mad my statements are not in line with your train of thought. Thanks for reminding me fellow american.Your a real patriot!
STOP!!! This is fear based hysteria. Gun control is the quick and easy fix that our brain turns to in an effort "solve" the problem and feel some sense of control during an insane situation. Yes, USA needs to have better laws regarding gun control, yes the USA needs to assist the mentally ill more effectively but assuming that gun control is a quick and easy solution is false. It is a broader issue overall and this specific situation needs to be reviewed to the root of the cause which we have do have the ability to do at this time. This type of thinking is fear based and a distraction. I truly do not believe that this small town is in risk of further immediate gun men shooting their citizens (not to minimize the situation but it is unlikely to happen again in this location). Can we focus first on healing ourselves, and the survivors of this horrible tragedy. The Post Traumatic Stress Disorder for these Adults and Children could last a lifetime and have devastating impacts on their lives which has a larger cascading impact on society overall. Do you see how the gun control argument is a distraction and a quick fix? The true focus should be on supporting this town FIRST, then addressing how we work with the mentally ill in this country, and then focusing on gun control. People first, things second
The world itself is wrestling with God, they need a new heart. Why take pleasure in the death of the wicked? So then faith cometh by hearing, & hearing by the word of God. But I say, Have they not heard? *Matthew 15:8-9 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. *Isaiah 29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: *Romans 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
Hearts out to the family...But guns are not to blame. If you set a gun on the table , and you ask the person next to you "Hey, is this gun going to kill you?" If they said "Yes" , ask them "How? It is just sitting there" Its the person that welds the gun. Guns dont kill people! People kill people!
News flash: guns that fire a hundred shots a minute with huge clips kill a LOT more people than a six-shooter. Math: use it.
That would make more sense if the guy used a gun that held 100 rounds. He didn't. The semi auto rifle was left in the car, unused.
Yeah lets reduce the number or rounds a mentally disturbed person can fire; that will solve everything(lol) How about we treat the person's mental illness before they get to the point of wanting to kill someone? Oh wait we don't give a damn about people like that tell they do something crazy.
Thank you Piers. 12000 times a year.
Over the next 10 years the United States government plans to phase out the following items from existence:
Knives & every other kitchen utensil
Guns
Alcohol
Cars
Baseball bats
Pillows
Pots and Pans
Basically anything that can be used to kill someone
And if you were in charge we would all be carrying rocket-powered grenades, bazookas, flame throwers and commute to work in Apache helicopters.
CNN is owned by Time Warner. Time Warner also owns Warner Bros Pictures. Warner Bros Picture is responsible for the distribution of New Jack City, Unforgiven, South Central, "FALLING DOWN", "NATURAL BORN KILLERS", Heat, The Matrix, and much more. I love how the Hollywood libs make money using the 1st Amendment to export filth and violence into our society and then lobby against the 2nd Amendment when society acts out what they have taught us. Piers Morgan, look at the people who sign your check
Those same movies are shown all over the UK, where there were ALL OF 51 gun deaths in 2011 in the ENTIRE COUNTRY. What's the difference you say? Repeat after me: IT'S THE GUN CONTROL
If you want to live in the UK, go ahead, but don't try to make the US the UK.
Britain has one of the lowest gun ownership rates in the world, but while gun homicides are low in Britain, their violent crime rate is actually one of the highest in the western world. A murder is a murder by whatever means. As mentioned in my post, nearly all of Britain's European neighbors privately own substantially more guns than the British, and yet the homicide rates in these countries aren't any higher, in fact in many cases the homicide levels are substantially lower. The Swiss privately own, on a per capita basis, 8 times as many guns as the British, most of which are fully-automatic assault rifles, actual machine guns, and yet Switzerland's annual homicide rate is nearly half that of Britain's. Other close neighbors like France and Germany privately own 5 times as many guns as the British, but yet the annual homicide rate in France is the same as Britain's, and Germany's rate is nearly 30% lower. Guns really don't seem to be an issue in those large gun owning European countries, so why is that?
Very good point!
How is it that four armed Police Officers were all killed by one man? And those people are trained professionals.
STOP BLAMING GUN OWNERS!
GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!
Oh, It is so true and we are all enlightened! Nukes do not kill people, it is people who kill the people! So, let everybody has a Nuke if they can afford it!
My deepest heartfelt thoughts and prayers are with the families, the children, the faculty, the law enforcement officials ,the fire department, the volunteers, the community and the forensic staff.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASELOOK INTO IF THE HOOTER WAS ON PHARMIVUDICAL DRUGS. EVERY MASS SHOOTER HAS BEEN. WE NEED TO HOLD THESE COMPANIES ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL.
HORRIFYING.
This is NOT an isolated incident... if this person did not have access to the guns he would have been much less of a threat. Apparently, all the guns were legal in Connecticut. This Connecticut mass shooting, the Oregon mall shooting in the past week, The Arizona mass shooting with Gabby Gifford and more in the past few years....these are actions not just beliefs. The statistics are counting over 10,000 killed by guns in the US in a year.
The moral issues of the country do not have bullets that go through people's bodies. How can we justify arming the mentally ill. It has very little to do with morality and being righteous. It is more about human nature and math. Do we need to still be moral and righteous? Yes, of course, but we also need to be intelligent about our decisions and choices in our society. This is common sense.
No matter what political views you may have, there is no denying the crisis we have in this country. Solving this problem is going to take more than politics to solve. More than getting stuck in the politics of it. The solution needs each of us being as honest and responsible and as smart as we can to make sure this national crisis is addressed and solved. We cannot continue to loose such precious people in this way.
Sadly, it will probably take an incident with triple-digit deaths before Americans begin to realize what a total failure our gun policy is.
Bravo Piers It is insane to think guns belog in the hands of ANYONE othe than law enforcement
Law enforcement should only have guns and everything will be ok huh? Tell that to the African country's where war lords rule the land.
The huge majority of gun deaths in this country are suicides. Just think, if guns are banned, people will stop killing themselves!
R U SUGGESTING THAT ROPES SHOULD BE BANNED ALSO,,?,IF PEOPLE WANT TO KILL THEMSELVES, THEY WILL FIND A WAY....THAT IS A "PERSONAL" PROBLEM ON THEIR PART .
Everybody forgets the third part of the statement.
Guns don't kill people
People kill people
Guns just let them do it faster, more efficiently, from further away and without having to get up close and personal.
Piers Morgan, you are an extremely disrespectful debater.
I'm offended that Morgan, some Brit, is trying to get us to give up our rights. Go back to the UK lymmie
Don't you guys think there is a reason we sent him over to America? He's pro phone hacking and made his name in the lowest form of journalism. He has the personal appeal of a decomposing pile of feces and has the lowest primetime ratings for CNN in 21 years for exactly these reasons.
His idea is a sensible one, but he is throwing the practicalities to the politicians. There is no easy answer here – all the details of the situation are still not public, for example. Throw whatever statistics you want at it, bad things happen to good people. Hindsight is always 20-20.
And thank you piers for going off on gun lobby tonight. THANK YOU for saying what I feel.
hey Dana, maybe after you give my 2nd amendment rights away, lets just take your 1st amendment rights away or are we just gonna relive history, long live the Queen! or did you forget how this country came about, it was fought for so you could have your voice. let punish the criminals!
piers morgan is a retard, take away the guns then the kid would of just made a bomb, what are you going to do then, take away bombs, people will kill no matter what you do.
Brandon, you couldn't make a bomb if I gave you 10 kilos of gunpowder. Besides, there's this technique that I just learned about when you see a lunatic with a bomb.... it's called RUNNING AWAY. Sounds promising, eh?
How are you going to see a person with a bomb when he has it under a coat? Or plants it around an area he's going to explode later. You make it sound like they're going to run around with a bomb in hand chasing people. Try running from that.
Dear Patriot Missle,
I could make a bomb using items readily available from the local home supply store and so could anyone with the intent and access to the internet. It is the cost of living in a free society. You don't like my guns? I respect that. But your freedoms end where mine begin. Maybe I don't think you need a sports car that goes over the National speed limit or your wife needs a handbag that cost over $1000. It's your money and your choice. I am sure alot of you anti-gunners smoke marijuana, like the President used to. How do you people get that marijuana when it is illegal? Is it hard to find a supplier for your illegal marijuana? NO! Where there is a will, there is a way. You can't legislate morality.
Tighter gun laws will not prevent this stuff from happening. I guess liberals haven't learned from history. (Hitler, Mao, Castro, Stalin) They were ALL ABOUT Gun Control! And you see how that's turned out! If Piers doesn't respect and like american rights (all of them! Not just the ones he chooses too), he needs to go back to England and stay there! What a parasite!
AMEN!!!!!
Pier's 'animated' performance could probably be ranked as unprofessional. And it's about time. Thank you Pier. Thank you for being real. For being human. For not being politically correct. It's outrageous that our children are dying and we are silenced not to 'politicize' our grieving. Politicize it. Don't stop talking about it. Our children's lives depend on it.
You said it much better than I could. Thank you, and THANK YOU, Piers, for taking a stand!
He's being more like stupid and not concerning himself with the root cause of these killings. But hey at least he's being real.
There will be a time for discussion on Gun Control Laws. However, while the bodies of those poor children are still laying where they fell is not the time. Getting the bodies back to the families for one last kiss goodbye and to plan for their funerals is the only thing that is important.
Piers Morgan, you are absolutely right – about time this country is educated about the facts of life and death. I hope that CNN and other news agencies in the US get together to finally to do something!
When will Americans demand their rights to stay safe in our own country free from the fear of guns. We have to start doing things not talking about it.
CNN, get behind your man!
Lol you think you'll be safe if there were no guns,take away all firearms and watch how creative people will get when they want to commit mass murder. You'll wish they were using a gun when they start bombing places instead.
THANK YOU for taking a stand on this issue, Piers!! You are SO RIGHT:; it is time NOW to DO something to regulate guns more!
Tell that to timothy mcvey, would have made no difference to him.
Sure, but it certainly would have made a difference to those 20 dead school children in Newtown, the kids dead at Virginia Tech, the Dead movie patrons at Aurora, the dead kids at Columbine....etc etc etc
Please please please look into if this shooter was on pharmaceutical drugs. Every mass shooter has been so far. These companies need to held accountable as well.
Horrifying.
And no one gives credit to how to powerfully these drugs create rage, sucked, homicide. There is a black box warning on these drugs given to our American kids, teenagers, young adults, our veterans etc, that WARN of this feeling being created by the drug. Sickening. I don't know if he was on anything or not but its hard not to at least question. I have now known personally numerous people who have killed themselves while on these drugs. They create overwhelming rage and desperation. GET THEM OFF THE SHELF.
Piers brings folks on to his show and continues to yell and overspeak them because only his opinion can be heard and he refuses to hear anyone's opinion. Pathetic. "Come back when you change your thinking." HA
Clearly everyone thinks that guns can just disappear – it will never happen. Those like Piers also believe that "Semi-Automatics" are even worse have no clue that most of their grandfathers also had semi-automatics in the form of hunting rifles. They both operate exactly the same.
I find it interesting also that none of the media and definitely not piers is talking about the man who had his conceal carry during the recent Oregon mall shooting, had the gun drawn on the shooter, but did not shoot due to understanding that based on the situation too many people were at risk. However, the shooter saw him and then ended his life. Coincidence? I don't think so...
Piers, if you want to run a real news show with facts and both sides – run the story about the man with the CCW in Oregon.
Also to think about – we get tough on guns and take em away lalala – are we so naive to think that "bad guys" will not either a) use other forms of destruction or B) find guns illegally. You then have a gunman facing an unprotected society armed with chairs.
Piers Morgan does not want to be confused with the facts, he's already made up his mind. That guy is twisting words and cannot comprehend what people are telling him. both the psychology experts told him this is not a gun control issue, this is a mental health issue and they told him why but he refused to listen. Piers talks a lot about what he thinks but can't bring any facts to the table. Bottom line; Piers is ignorant with this issue and has no respect for the facts. He does not need to do another debate on this topic.
Be upset, be infuriated, be angry, way to go Mr. Morgan..! Those three bone-heads, whoever they are, who wanted more guns after the Sandy Hook incident have no idea what this is about – innocent lives. Yes, be angry, well done.
It's a mental health issue not a gun issue, stop the takeover of the goods people's rights,good kids were killed yes but don't try to take my rights away. You only support socialist government remember the ones that died for our rights for our country,people kill people guns are fired by people,they don't go off by them self...........
Is mental health a warning sign? Tell the little children the truth and take away the pride of life. The Most High will humble you in grace. A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign. Take no pleasure in the death of the wicked. (Ezekiel 33:11) *Isaiah 38:18 For the grave cannot praise thee, death can not celebrate thee: they that go down into the pit cannot hope for thy truth. *Isaiah 53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. *James 2:6 But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
I saw thhe program and learned the horrible news of the shooting.I live in The Netherlands and I do not understand the dicussion about the right to have guns and weapons. Everybody has the right to defend himself, but do it with your bare fists. No guns and it saves a lot of dead bodies.........the gun lobby will not agree because they cannot make money of bare fists! I wish you all wisdom and strenght for the families.
When tragedies like this happen, people begin to blame stuff like mental illness and guns. It’s not that at all. Blaming mental illness just makes the issue worse (and stigmatizes those who innocently suffer). And gun control, although important, is a side issue that distracts from the root cause of the problem. In fact, most mass shootings committed can be narrowed down to 3 factors (and the solution is NOT witch hunts). This opinion piece does a good job a summarizing the root cause and offering practical solutions:
http://behindtheveilofsociety.blogspot.com/2012/08/examining-psychology-and-sociology.html
Piers, Please stop giving the likes of John Lott a platform. They do not deserve it. No-one is interested in hearing it any more. His thought process is as deranged as Adam Lanza's obviously was.
NRA is like an orthopedic who argues, to increase his practice, that people in his town must walk in the middle of the road as statistics say more had the accidents when they walk close to the curbside. It's not the statistics that lie but the guy who interprets it with half-truth is the crook. USA needs the surrender of all guns by the public and cancel all licenses, stop additional private manufacturing, close the private gun shops and these have to be done right now. Then the needy will have to reapply for the guns with proper reason and should be reissued to the real needy people with just enough power, making then accountable and reportable for every bullet. We do not need NRA, either it needs to be abolished or gun lobbying must be made illegal. Gun control must be brought under federal jurisdiction – not states. Most of the "mass murders" happened with licensed legal weapons by the citizens. Issuing the statements like "illegal gun control" etc are only to dilute the issue. We need comprehensive gun control and elimination of guns from the hands of private citizens in general. Also, my advice is to either educate current NRA members about how to read statistics or put them to mental health training – it seems they have serious [psychological problems for sure..
Mass murders have Psychological problems to begin with and talking guns away will not cure their Psychological problems. It will only make them use other means to carry out their sick ways which will be worst than any firearm. You need to educate yourself on the root cause of these mass murders and stop diluting the issue with an gun control approach that will never work and is a waste of time to even think of.
I agree, taking guns away is not the complete solution except it starts there, and also minimize the mass casualties that one can inflict within a short span of time. Most of the times, mental health issues are not the real reason for these incidents, but the instant uncontrolled emotions are. In either case, we being an advanced country in the 21st century, must have more civilized laws as well. Unless the private guns are restricted in the entire country, at the federal level, this kind of massacres cannot be stopped. Most of these "mass massacres" are done with weapons legally owned by the culprits or their family / relatives.
"Evil visited this community today…“ was said by the HP. What visited this as many other communities, families, streets is the sick fascination of GUN OWNERSHIP in the US! A multi-billion weapons industry, a denial that times have changed and today’s society is different than at the time of the founding fathers, a weak excuse for people with no self-confidence, power hungry, craving for recognition, egotism, desire to show off, dishonest, careless for the safety of their fellow man – to own guns of all types to “feel better” to be able to “protect” or “entertain” or “recreational” themselves. With very few exceptions, everyone owning guns should visit a shrink to find out why they have this need for a deathly companion in their lives! Even here, today there are still people who insist at this very moment that MORE guns would be the answer - what kind of feelings do these people have? Waiting for an opportunity to kill themselves? Of cause in self-defense -! Playing hero in a shootout? This is so sick!!
For the moment, I grieve for the dead and hope one day they can smile again. But for anyone staying silent on this topic, not looking for solutions – the grieve it costs will be on their hands too!
As a mother to an 8-year-old little boy who means more to me than life itself, I thank you, Piers, for your impassioned call for real reform – finally, at long last, real change. Those of us who recognize the utter insanity and idiocy of those arguing for more guns need to DEMAND change. The culture of violence in this country is beyond intolerable and we will all have blood on our hands going forward if we dare allow yet another mass killing to take place without INSISTING that swift and widespread reform is carried out.
Piers, you are my hero. You finally spoke out to this pro-gun advocate with the kind of energy and anger that ANYONE of good conscience simply HAS to, especially after what happened earlier today. How these folks can continue to defend the idea that we don't need and shouldn't have gun tougher control laws tells me that they are more interested in defending their individual freedoms than what is clearly best for our country over the long term.
it takes some one that comes here to the USA to tell us how we should be when he doesn't even want to live in his own country are you nuts?
Only ever seen a gun at the airport on a policeman. Never personally known anyone get shot, never heard a gun shot, never felt unsafe....why, because I live in the UK, a country that took action after an idiot rampaged through a school many years ago. The pro-shooting lobbies here came out with all the usual guff, but the wider pubic said enough is enough and guns were banned.
You still get the odd report of gun crime but just possessing one is enough to send you away for years so even the dumbest of criminals are eventually getting the message.
I am a massive fan of the USA (and no fan at all of Piers!) and of all the things you do as a nation and for the world, I am a frequent visitor. But the one thing I don't and never will understand is your obsession with guns.
You won't eliminate the problem overnight but if it means one less school suffers this each year, and 20 sets of parents don't lose their kids forever, surely that has to be worth consideration.
- public - 😉
Just as many kids, actually younger, lost their lives when timothy mcvey blew up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. There were no guns involved, more people got killed, even more injured and it only happened within seconds. The root cause is worth consideration.
So two wrongs make a right? I lost colleagues in 9/11, and the world's response, led by the USA, was correct. But in that same year over 11,000 US citizens were shot dead by their own countrymen weren't they?
Thank you so much Piers you’re a hero to speaking-out on gun control and America truly need more people like you in media who truthfully tell America the truth. US need to wake up. Enough is Enough!! God Bless you.
As a mother I can only imagine how the parent's who lost their children,and how the families and friends who lost their loved ones must be feeling.I am so deeply sorry.my daughter is two and I have a fear of letting someone watch her or her going to school because of all the molestations that have happened,now,I am scarred to let her go because of this.if our children r not safe in school then where r they safe???we r no longer safe in school,at the mall,or at the movie theater.what is wrong with people?on a more blunt note,I am sick and fed up with the whole"mental illness BS!"I don't care if u have a disability,if u had hurrible things happen to u as a child,or if u r just depressed,that gives u no right to take someone's life!u r either normal or f–+*+ in the head!
I just became a parent in America and I am struggling to come to terms with gun laws and gun violence in this country. I am originally from Ghana (a very peaceful African country),lived in Britain for five years before coming to the States and I find Americans so blinded to the truth when it come to guns. Maybe it is a source of pride but life is way more precious than guns.
The Rwandan Genocide was the 1994 genocidal mass slaughter of an estimated 800,000 people in the East African state of Rwanda. This was all done with Sticks and Stones? I don't go to your country and spew hate against your laws, don't come here and spew your hate against ours.
*sighs* I believe Joe said he came from Ghana...not Rwanda, therefore your point is mute.
If you are following this arguments from theese stupid guys, you have to pull a weapon in the arm of every 5-year-old child to protect them from a murderer. Did you americans want that ? Poor poor country with no learning about what´s happend. Is that your special freedom ?? Where is now the freedom of theese children to having a life full of joy ? Thank you Mr. Morgan to give all people a voice who never unterstood the things inside a head of such stupid white men.
by Tom Norris.....
My heart is with the families. May God bless and keep them always.....
TAKEN OUT OF SCHOOL
18 children were taken out of school,
and with 8 adults, makes 26 in the pool.
A lone gunman, now we're being told,
Was all it took to end their lives,
but I think their lives were sold.
Who is there amongst us, who doesn't clearly see,
The madness all around us that made this come to be.
We need more guns, the lobbyist say,
We could have shot him down,
If every boy and girl today
were packing in that town.
We need more guns politicians say,
Every man has a right,
To buy and sell assault weapons,
And children , young and bright.
We need more guns, the senate says,
It's not us should make a rule,
To take away those super guns
From every crazy fool.
We need more guns, the Congress says,
It's written in the law.
It's not our fault, these kids lay dying, calling for their Ma.
We need more guns, we know this, from the NRA,
And any politician who doubts them
Ohhhh, dearly he will pay.
The NRA, it owns them,
The politician has been paid,
With re-election money,
And children so afraid.
Guns don't kill, it's people,
These wiseman always tell.
Won't you buy a gun from me,
Before I burn in hell ?
So now I finally get it,
Not guns, but people kill.
Boehner, McConnell,Cantor,
To name a few, if you will.
Ohh, and Mr. President, I can't say your hands are clean.
I've voted for you twice now,
But my eyes see how it's been.
"Now's not the time " you said to us
When Giffords was sadly shot,
Do you think that maybe now's the time
You can start to make a fuss.
My hands are clean, says Cantor,
Mine too, Boehner shouts out.
You need us re-elected,
Is there any doubt ?
We have no blood on our hands,
These children , WE didn't kill.
Why should we do anything,,
Why should we pass a bill.
At the hands of politicians,
It seems we've all been sold
For even less than Jesus
By Judas Iscariot of old.
Oh, and me as I am writing,
Just noticed my bloody hands,
For silence, more than guns,
Has destroyed so many lands.
And how many times must the canon ball fly,
Before they are forever banned?
I think I'll copyright that line
Before Dylan shows his hand.
Certainly, our forefathers ,
Knew this day would come.
And wanted us to protect
The politicians, not the young.
My thoughts are with the families ,
No parent should lose a child,
Especially from lack of laws
That clearly should be filed.
And to the young survivors,
A day you won't forget,
Forgive me and all adults,
For something that we let.
I'll steal some words from Dylan,
It's me he'll probably sue,
But he has so many,
He won't miss just a few.
"May God bless and keep you always,
May your wishes all come true,
May you always do for others,
And let others do for you.
May you build a ladder to the stars
And climb on every rung
And may you stay
Forever Young"
And now I'll ask Piers Morgan ,
The bloke's been speaking out,
Can you turn that Limey voice more into a SHOUT?
I feel like Dylan's Mr. Jones,
As I sit chilled to the bone
Hearing all the talking heads,
My God, am I here all alone ?????????
That Morgan bloke is as bloody mad as King George III. All that uncontrolled ranting only solidifies the opposition. Maybe a vacation back to jolly old England is in order? (pip pip cheerio)
PIERS is brave and brilliant.
The gun toting crowd are extremist crazy nutters who hide behind big guns to protect their insecurities about their own masculinity.
THE NRA needs their heads examined.
I,m with you Morgan....luckily I,m living in Germany (although british), where the chances of a mother with an obviously disturbed son might find it a little difficult to buy a house-full of automatic weapons.........
People are saying that CT has the 4th strictest gun control laws in the U.S so therefore this tragidy couldnt have been prevented. CT has the 4th strictest gun law compared to the other states but that still doesnt make it strict. It is legal to carry a gun full stop. This needs to be changed now. Why do you need to carry a gun? to feel safer? if thats the case then other laws need to be addressed because i live in the UK and i have never in my life ever felt the need to carry a weapon. It is illegal here to own a firearm and that is how it should be in America. How many more people have to die for you all to realise this. WHY DO YOU NEED A GUN?????
Because of people just like this kid. I have a locked and loaded .357 semi automatic in my car at all times. I have a locked and loaded Desert Eagle in my nightstand. I also have a locked and loaded AR-15 next to my front door every night. When I'm not at home or in my car it's under lock and key along with a combination lock that I only know the numbers for. So you want to know why I own such heavy weapons as a female it makes me feel so much safer than being out in the big bad world alone with no protection whatsoever. In the 20+ years I've owned them, the only time I have fired them is out on a range, I never had to fire it under distress. But if I had to, you better believe I would take someone else out before they had a chance to do it to me or my family.
Right on Sister!
Good on you, Piers, for trying.
But, I'm afraid, you'll never get through to these lunatic Americans. Let them kill each other off and we won't have to listen to them any more.
I'm over it. Poor, poor, children, may your souls be peaceful.
How many Americans do you know, other than what you see through the media? I would never assume you are bad because your neighbor might be.
Just one more thought- those children were Americans. Are you wishing them peace and damning the rest of their family because they are American? God Bless you and your Aussie family.
Another goofball Australian who thinks we give a flying #$@% what you think. Like I said before, You all are a bunch of sheep who turned your guns in when the government told you to. If you were ever to get invaded by another country, count us out on helping you. However, in this country, if we were ever invaded and by some unimaginable chance they were able to defeat our military, they would still face over a 100 million gun owners who are quite proficient at shooting. I know who I would place my money on. USA.
I know people say gun control is the answer , but Im more curious about the shooter and what type of anti-depressant he was on. All of these killers were on some sort of medication, or had some mental issue. Do these type of drugs contribute to their actions? Are these drugs a catalist to the mass murders they perpetrate?
I wonder how many of the parents of the 20 children murdered today are NRA members?
Piers- First, today is the time to Pray for all those affected by this horrific act of violence and not make advocadcy speeches.
Next, you can outlaw all the guns, you will not solve the problem of social breakdowns in our society causing some disturbed and/or ill intention person from getting a gun if they want it and using it to kill. A vast majority of gun crimes happen with illegal guns not leagally held guns (a vast, vast majority). It's time for you and others of the same mind set to realize that family breakdowns, broken homes, lenient treatment of criminals, certian politicians promoting that it is society'"s fault and not the individual's fault- that is not hold people accountable is what is primarily creating the enviorment for these violent acts. Maybe we should repeal the 2nd Amendment, take away your "cause" for all gun violence, so once an for all when gun violence continues to increase we can get to the real cause of crime and violence in the country – some that you, Harry Ried, Nancy Pelosi and like minded people in this country have been in denial about for decades.
This man did not obtain these guns illegally. He took them from his mother after killing her. She owned them legally and for what reason? Whyt would anyone feel the need to own three guns? He took these legally owned guns and took them into a school and killed 26 innocent people. It seems as though this man did not plan this massacre in advance. He was in a rage. If it were illegal to own firearms, would it really have been that easy for him to obtain an illegal gun and go into that school while still in his fit of rage? No. Making guns illegal will not put a stop to gun related crimes completely but it will certainly lower the number of these mass killings in your country. Dont these children deserve better than people remaining in denial about your relaxed gun laws?!
Charlie, in President Obama's hometown of Chicago, underage members of the Gangster Disciples and Black Disciples street gangs gain access to guns all the time. They do not support the NRA. They did not go through a background check or register their guns, nor will they ever do so. When they are enraged and seek retaliation, like a few weeks ago at a Chicago funeral home where a rival gang member was being laid to rest; they had guns, in Chicago, the city with the strictest gun laws in the United States and where criminals killed far, far more than 20 children this year. Where were Obama's tears for the children and other victims of gang warfare in his home town? Where were all of you people and your outrage while dozens of school children in Chicago were being gunned down in the most violent summer ever? Hypocrites! You have nothing to say because you can't blame the gun lobby or gun enthusiasts such as myself, a law abiding, multiple gun owning,Lifetime NRA member, for the acts of criminals. Yet you don't mind holding us responsible for the horrific acts of demented individuals that commit unspeakable acts of violence.
Also, yes, it is a time to mourn but there is no reason to wait to address these issues. It is time to act now to prevent this from happening again. Surely everyone deserves their safety?
If it were illegal to own a firearm, would this have happened? No! Would he have gone into that school with the intention of killing all those people? Probably not! A person filled with this rage with a gun in their hand is a major threat. A person filled with this rage without a gun in their hand isnt as much of a threat. He wanted to do the most damage possible and he did that with several guns. Would he have done as much damage with a knife? No, he would have been taken down! How can a child defend themself against a crazy man with a gun? They cant!! It is no use saying that there are strict gun laws in place because they arent strict. If it is legal for a civilian to own an assult rifle then this is not srtict. Why dont they ban guns and see how much gun related crime goes down. Maybe then people might see how much damage they really do. Why are americans so obssessed with guns? Its carzy!!
That's why 22 people were killed in China this week by someone with a knife. Don't kid yourself, if someone wants to kill someone else they will do it by any means possible. Stop living in a dream world.
Actually i think you will find that 22 people were attacked by a man with a knife but none have actually died.
I would rather face my chances with a man with a knife than a man with three guns. There will always be people with mental health issues and awful childhoods that will try to carry out these kinds of crimes but a lot of them can be prevented by stricter gun laws. I think it is time that you stopped living in a dream world and actually opened your eyes to what has happened and how it could have been prevented if these issues were addressed a long time ago.
Charlie. if we could pass a law to solve all our problems, Politicians would be saviors and we all would be living problem free. I mean really- in this horiffic case a school teacher had guns that her likley ill son used. A school teacher! If it makes people of your mindset feel better to eliminate all guns, fine. but you are kidding yourself- gun violence will occur at the same if not a higher rate. Broken homes, a Media and Entertainment Industry that promotes violence foor profit, denial with reporting problem people, laxed criminal laws- these are the roots of this type of violence and all the gun control laws (and we have tons now) wont change that.
You are making poor assumptions. A pipebomb could accomplish a tragedy of this size. A china school recently had a man come in with a knife and cut up 22 kids. The evil is in the person not in the tool. Were missing the point here, taking gun's away doesn't take thte anger and maliciousness of suicidal maniacs. These are the hardest to prevent, no differnt than the using a plane as a weapon, they will find a way. There were approximately 25,000 people that were able to protect themselves and their familes in the last year becuase they had a weapon to protect themselves when approached by a violent criminal. Would we wish those 25,000 to be defence-less? You might think differntly if an intruder entered your home and went after your children.
The UK tightened their gun laws after Dunblance and Australia tightened their gun laws after the Port Arthur massacre and have shown it can and has had significant effects in the positive. Those arguing that they need to be able to retain their right to arms because to outlaw them would increase crime need to switch their brains on. The people responsible for mass shootings often, as in this case, get their guns from home...if they had to go out and find a gun (especially if illegal), and had to go through cooling off periods and background checks before being able to purchase them, I doubt they would carry things to the point of purchasing and killing innocent people. The system American's live in now makes it so easy to act on impulse without any obstacles.
Last year, handguns killed 8 people in Great Britain, 52 in Canada and 10,728 in the United States. You do the math!!!
Please, don't portray all Americans as heartless. I watched this unfold and was so heartsick for these people I wasn't even able to speak. I have three young grandaughters and the thought of a travesty such as this hitting a family is unthinkable. I also am thinking of the aftermath and what the entire community is going to have to face with thier children. God be with all of them. There are many prayers for them from my home and I'm sure from all over America, so please don't speak for us Americans because you are obviously out of line thinking you can speak for a whole country.
Mr. Morgan, I am so tired of listening to you rant over our laws about gun control. Yesterday was an awful day. But I am a card carrying NRA democrat and am so tired of hearing your rants over something that is actually none of your concern. You are an outsider. You rant about our laws our Government who should be in office and who shouldn't be. I happen to own an AR-15. It has never been used for anything but on a range. Why do I own it, because I can. I also have a right to carry concealed which I do, I have a .357 that is locked and loaded in the glove compartment in my car that has never been fired unless at the range. I own a Desert Eagle .50 cal semi automatic that I also keep in my nightstand. I have gone through every legal way of getting all of my weapons. I have gone through extensive background checks through Federal, State and Local Governments. You get so upset over gun ownership that it's almost laughable. I hope to god that you are never a victim of a crime and you are caught off guard, the police don't respond to your calls in time so that you or someone you love is hurt or killed. I wouldn't wish what happened today on anyone. But the people that you interview are right. You never hear of anyone going to a gun show and hurting anyone or anywhere else that your right to carry has an shooting of any kind. Yes guns are very dangerous in the wrong hands, but don't blame our government for the stupidity of certain people. We need tougher gun laws on the selling of guns by those that aren't allowed to own, sell or use. But don't tell me that because I own one of these weapons that I'm a horrible person. I own them because as American Citizen, A Mother of 2College aged daughters and I'm also the daughter of a retired Pennsylvania State Police Officer who taught me gun safety from when I was 8 years old. So please Mr. Morgan, stop running our country down, if you don't like it go back to England where you think you are safe and sound. But remember, tell those 33 Kids parents in Russia that were gunned down in their classroom, that these things only happen in America.
Sadly, your view is typical of many Americans – it is possible to love a country and criticize it at the same time. Very few people in the UK would accept an equivalent of a second amendment and most would resist it in the strongest possible terms. The UK experiences gun violence and the occasional massacre but has responded by increasing the control on guns – to make it a safer place. Please don’t use the “if you don’t like it you can leave” tactic – it’s not very bright!
Stephen, For your information I didn't tell him to leave. I told him to go back where he feels safer if he doesn't here. Is this country perfect, No. It never has been. But I wouldn't go into England and tell them how wrong they are because of their laws. So what gives Mr. Morgan a right to spew his hate on a national forum? I hope CNN realizes this and fires him for his very bad behavior on such a horrific day.
Amen, Dyan. Morgan can go back to the land of bitter tea and bad teeth and leave Americans alone.
What a tragedy of the CT shooting....my heart is heavy with sorrow..........but it leads me to wonder why Piers spends all this anger on illegal behavior of the shooter when about every 12 minutes the U.S will legally kill (with knife, toxin, etc.) the same number of children. Every 12 minutes...than we start again...every 12 minutes, every 12 minutes, every 12 minutes.
My heart is breaking for these people. Just Tragic! This is just an observation but I am from Wyoming which has some of the most liberal gun laws. We recently had a shooting in Casper, Wy. which resulted in deaths and the gun man chose to use a bow and arrow to kill his own father. Now this happens in a state with the some of the most strict gun laws. Ironic.
I have never watched his show before and probably never will again. If he's going to have guest on for a discussion, let them speak. The shooter was a psychotic freak and never should have had any access to weapons.(of course there are a whole bunch of informational websites on how to fight and kill) I'm a licensed gun owner and the other people, in my family, that are not, have NO access to them. Was there any kind of security at this school? How did he get the rifle past the front door? I work at a school with at LEAST one armed officer.
Just watched "discussion " of recent school shooting, Agree we must get tough on gun control as a nation. We also need to learn to have civil conversations on the media about serious issues! To night I saw four men yelling a t each other and not listening.Pierce you were the worst and you were supposed to be the interviewer. If we really want a decrease in violence in this country We could start by having the media be a model for civil, nonviolent conversation.
I agree with what you say. However, in Mr Morgan's defence – this is an extremely emotional issue. The fact is so many young innocent kids got slaughtered today. People are frustrated that everyone has these civil conversations but don't commit to anything – or go around blaming Obama or a Republican when the problem is actually us. Us who refuse to have this conversation because we don't want to offend the other party – and think we should just keep going. We simply have to stop gun violence – and the most obvious thing would be to limit gun availability. Easy access to guns has been tried for years and years and has not worked – is it not time for a new strategy? Why can't we even have a discussion about this without people running to their corner and trying to vehemently defend their side without actually thinking about the implications of what they say? Like most of us today, Pierce was really frustrated. He is only human.
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I live in CT and this situation breaks my heart and at the same time I can see that the focus for the solution to prevent this type of situations in the future is to denied or be more strong with the gun permit. Nobody is talking about Nintendo, X Box, movies, pills, etc etc... Is not about the guns, is about the way you change the point of view and the things that are really matters. That's my opinion. If U close the door to the good people that wants to protect their homes, family, and there kids and U want to let the bad boys to be the only ones that can carry a gun is going to be worst. Kids are living the game. Our responsability is to educate them with values and explain to them how important is life and share the love.
I see what you are saying Avril, but the issue remains it was a gun that killed this kids. I agree that society has a lot of violence – and needs control, but if you think about it, if what you say works – and I actually agree with you that it should work, then you shouldn't need so many guns. The bottom line is that guns are dangerous and is far too easy to commit mass murder – like pressing a button to detonate a bomb – which is very very easy to do. We really need to think about having guns so easily available in this great country. It is an important conversation only we can solve.
117,000 children 16 years old or under were injured in motor vehicle accidents in 2010. 2000 children were killed. Isn't it about time we ban privately owned and operated motor vehicles? Cars, the REAL assault weapon!
Gun control laws provide the arm chair activists false satisfaction that they are doing something to change the country for the better. A crusade for stricter gun laws serves as a distraction to the underlying problems that this country faces like poverty and poor public education. Crime and violence will still be present no matter if guns are in the equation or not. We might as well ban butter knives while we are at it, too.
I am from Canada and my heart goes out to all the families involved in this senseless tragedy. I am not sure what the answer is, but if we are going to argue facts then lets get them accurate. England had 722 murders last year approx 50 by guns and they have 60 million people. Canada had 522 murders in 2009, 160 by guns with a population of approximately 40 million people. The us had 16000 murders in 2009 approximately 12000 by guns with with a population of 340 million people. Do we blame gun laws, maybe we blame the mother for allowing her son access to the guns or maybe we blame God for allowing evil. There might be no answer to any of these questions. Perhaps a young obviously unstable young man snapped and committed an inexplicable act of extreme violence. Hug your kids, tell them you love them, teach them right from wrong and pray that God keeps them safe.
Hi Brent. I'm from Canada too. Actually there is an answer. It is actually pretty obvious I think. Guns kill people. The problem is that it takes relatively little effort to use a gun on someone – oh a whole group of people. You simply can't screen out those who are likely to commit murder. There is no blood test, scan you can do to weed out those with mental problems. That is reality. In Australia, they brought in tough gun laws and gun related violence did go down. Whatever people argue, what is blatantly obviously is that what exists today is clearly not working and there must be a change. The most obvious change would be to – either increase gun availability or restrict gun availability. Given the comments on this blog, it is clear that there are a lot of people who feel that easy access to guns has nothing to do with it – in fact a number of people feel they need more access to guns. Ordinary people should not have a licence to kill.
First of all let me say I'm all for gun controls and I'm very sorry for those who are affected by this tragedy...
But what I wanted to say after watching is this:
When interview other people, I think it's very important that there's one person speaking. Mr. Morgan (as well as other guests) constantly interrupts other people. I'd say if you want to express frustration, etc. and make a point, then please do that on your own show. There's no need to invite a guest to have them say some short, incomplete sentences, only to interrupt them and spin their arguments around.
Thanks!
I would ordinarily agree with you, but Pierce was making an important point. That guy was talking garbage suggesting that we need more guns to have prevented what happened today.
Hm I think he was trying to say something along the line of... "after the ban, [the crime rate] was higher than before the ban." Then Piers said, "so you want more gun, not less."
Until now I still see no connection between the two.
It's like my saying, "there was a meteor shower last night," and then you say, "so you generally drive 80 in a 65 zone."
What frustrates me is that I would really love to hear what he (the guest) has to say more because I want to know how the study was made, or what event he was referring to, so that I could check if it's causal or not, etc. Then Piers cut him off.
And if you know (or suspect) that your guests would make stupid comments, just quote them... don't invite them. Inviting them means you'd give them a chance to respond. Here there's no chance for that.
Yep. I agree
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Pierce. I thought this was the best interview you ever did. I couldn't have put it better. Crazy americans. Now they will all turn around and blame Obama. Of course it is a gun. No body would have gotten shot today if not for guns. Nobody should need to defend themselves with a lethal weapon like a gun – the answer to a break in is not to shoot someone dead. It is this complete disregard for a persons life that is now engrained in American culture that is the cause of this. There needs to be a complete turn around in the way people think about guns – and that needs to start at grass roots level. Not Obama or any politician (republican or democrat) can solve this problem. The conversation needs to start now – and pierce did start it. It was a brave move – but a good move. Everyone has fits of rage from time to time. That's part of being human. Usually we go punch a wall or something. With guns you can, at the spur of the moment, cause unbelievable damage and loss of life. You can't pick/scan/do a blood test to figure out who has psychological problems and screen them out of owning a gun. It is simply not practical. America is a great country – but Americans simply cannot handle guns. The bottom line is none of those 26 people would be dead today if this young man didn't have a gun in his hand. Period.
Against my better judgement, I watched Mr. Morgan's show and I regret it.
The lack of journalistic integrity and professionalism shown in today's show is unacceptable. I happen to agree that we need to take a serious look at our gun laws to make sure this doesn't happen again. But when people like Mr. Morgan invite people on his show just to scream at them doesn't help to move the debate forward, in fact it hurts it.
If Mr. Morgan is as passionate about this issue as he comes across (at other times), then he needs to work on his professionalism first and foremost. It may get him ratings but it will cost the cause of gun control in the meantime.
Can't imagine anybody being able to not lose it with those creeps! Adam Lanza may have pulled the trigger, but we have the pro-gun folks to thank as well for this latest tragedy and how many others. Yep, just so Senator Lindsey Graham's right [as he pointed out in a recent interview] to own his guns and hunt aren't infringed on ....
I cannot stop crying over this terrible trajedy. It hurts so much to think that there are people who hate so much and that cannot control their emotions and can bring themselves to commit such a horrendous act. Pray for our nation, pray for the parents and loved ones of all whose lives were taken, pray for all of those who are wrestling with demons – pray, pray pray to a mighty and powerful God. Pray and believe that He can change things for the better. Almighty God, help us all.
You know the saying 'where it just takes on to ruin it for others'...sorry to say, but even if you consider yourself a responsible gun owner, too bad – it's time this madness ends. There are far more people who gain access to these weapons that cannot demonstrate the level of responsibility to own one and here is your end results each time. It's not 1770, you don't need a gun and pretend to be G.I. Joe.
This show was not a forum for discussion, it was piers Morgan's time to lose control and shut down the guests he didn't agree with. I think there should be tighter gun control measures, and even agreed with couple of points Piers' made, but he joined the ranks of Rush Limbaugh in this show. Very disappointing.
dont normally like piers, BUT WOW HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH
Bottom line,this murderess lunatic killed his mom then Stole her guns and car.Gun control would not (and did not) stop this from happening.
Piers,
Quit with the hysterics. Millions of Americans use guns every day for legitimate purposes. You are not going to abrogate the rights of hundreds of millions of Americans to bear arms just because some city slickers in a media studio overreact to every one of these incidents.
Can you tell me exactly how it is possible to over react to the murder of 20 innocent children? Your comment is, at best, poorly judged – please think before you write such totally hurtful nonsense.
It was FAR more disrespectful of Piers to communicate that the reason this happened was because of guns and to imply that a law could have saved these children. How disresptful and insensitive. Piers and the media are the problem here. It would be nice if he could acknowledge this so that he could use the media in a way that is helpful and not damaging. Not only his talk on Gun's but CNN itself along with other media glorify these acts and create an opportuinty for infamany that incentivize suididal menevolent people to carry out such things. Then they ignore their part in it. This tragedy occured because one man had evil intentions. No one is talking about how to solve and address the evil that exist in the society. Thats the real problem here. How can we bring back values and "love thy neighbor" to our culture. Instead we listen to Piers bantor and argue (well not argue, he doesn't let other people talk) I wonder if he spent the time he spends causing conflict and instead spent the time say, mentoring a child that needs a support network along with everyone else like him, where we wold actulaly be. That would be crazy though for someone to actually step up and do the right thing and spend their time doing something that would actually help instead of creating arguments about it. We all are at fault in this country and need to own up to it.
Oh – Sorry – I forgot it's not the guns – it's the people. And there I was thinking it was the people with the guns!
Gun control advocates will undoubtedly use the recent tragic shootings to gin up support for oppressive firearms laws. They will ignore the following facts. First, we are not being overwhelmed by an avalanche of murders. Murders have decreased over 40 percent since 1991. The murder rate has declined by over 50 percent.
Second, while violent crime has decreased, since 1991, the number of firearms in private possession has increased.
Third, guns are essential for self-defense. Studies by criminologist Gary Kleck and others show that firearms are used for self-defense against criminal attack over 2.5 million times a year. This far exceeds the annual total of gun crimes, suicides, and accidents.
Fourth, far less than one percent of privately owned firearms are involved in crimes, suicides or accidents. For example, less than four thousandths of one percent of privately owned firearms were used to commit murder in 2009.
Finally, "assault weapons", i.e. semiautomatic rifles which bear a cosmetic resemblence to military fully automatic assault rifles, are used in less than 1% of homicides. Less than 2% of violent criminals used "assault weapons".
How many more innocent lives have to be lost through gun violence in the USA before someone in authority actually has the balls to take a stand, say enough is enough and do something about the problem? It is high time that US politicians stop hiding behind the Second Amendment and allowing gun lobby representatives to retain the influence and power they have over progress being made to decrease the circulation and availability of these weapons (purely for financial gain). The time for debate is over – IT'S TIME TO ACT!
Why is it that when it comes to the lives of ordinary Americans it is money that does the talking ? In the USA the insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies already hold the country to ransom and lives are lost through lack of access to decent healthcare and medication for so many. A similar scenario exists with the gun industry, which instills fear amongst the population by perpetuating a nonsensical argument that having a gun means you can defend yourself against someone else with a gun.
I am from London, England and could not agree with Piers more. Having spent a great deal of time in the USA over the past two years myself, I watch the cycle: One shooting happens, the American people are stunned and horrified for a time but then just sit back and wait, knowing that another such incident is inevitable (purely because there are too many guns out there).
Having a gun amnesty where people voluntarily turn in these weapons which ruin lives, would be a start. Decreasing the number of guns in general circulation immediately, whilst making the ability to obtain a gun much more difficult in future and making laws about where guns are kept (under lock and key at a gun club, for example, and not in the home) is the way to go. Once steps are taken to make the situation more manageable, police time and money could be spent on catching real criminals instead of investigating the deaths of innocents. True, criminals hell bent on obtaining guns will still get them, whatever restrictions are in place but, as I say, at least police time can be spent on targeting criminal activity instead of dealing with a crime scene where the crime has been committed purely because of the ease of access to a gun with which to perpetuate that crime.
Having worked in the media in the UK in 1996, I remember watching, in horror, the live feeds coming into the tv studio when there was the massacre in Dunblane in March that year. This led to the swift action by the government and The Firearms (Amendment) Act in 1997 which effectively made private ownership of handguns illegal in the United Kingdom. It may be difficult to go that far in the US because there is a different culture but I think that American public opinion might just be ready to embrace such a change.
Good points well made!
But the gun ban in England was a false panacea. The ban there has had no impact on actual gun violence or the overall homicide rate. If you look at your country's Home Office statistics gun crime has more than doubled since 1997, when handguns were banned. While gun ownership in Britain is one of the lowest in the world, the violent crime rate in Britain is one of the highest in the western world. Apart from Ireland, all of Britain's close European neighbors privately own substantially more guns, and yet the homicides numbers in these neighboring countries are no higher, in fact in many cases the rates are substantially lower. So how do you explain this?
I think that maybe we do need to have tighter gun control laws in light of all the gun related inccidents, however the fact that American citizens do own guns is a good thing think about it this way. Do you know why the United States has never been invaded? Its becaues of those same guns that some are calling for a ban on, it is no accident that we are a nation that has never been attacked by a ground force of another country. Its because the countries that hate the US cannot account for the number of guns that citizens of the US own, look at the big picture if the US were ever to be invaded we would loose a lot more than 20 children. Dont get me worng I am not trying to trivialize the tragedy in Newtown, but lets place blame where it belongs on the offender not the tool he used to offend.
It might also be that the US is a very long way away from would-be invaders – if you discount Mexico and Canada! Get real!
I don't know about the rest of you, but I find the Georgia Guidestones to be very concerning. You could just say that it's a fantasy or dream that the super wealthy elite have; but who do think they are to want to eliminate 5.5 billion people?
Moreover who gives Prince Phillip the right to say "In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation?" NOTE to Prince Phillip, eliminate yourself!
No matter what people,say, not anymore, for those 20 children that we lost, for those teachers that try their best to keep our communities safe. We LOST. How many more do we have to lose ? Gun control can happen, we can make sense, we can change... simple measures, start with metal detectors in every school,don't we have the latest security scanning equipment in our airports? Why not in other places as well ? Let's all take responsibility. Little angels you are our start, on a race that we are way behind due to our own stupidity; Educators that will be forever an example of courage. WE WILL LOVE YOU FOREVER. Americans let's look inside our house(country) and fixed it.
I respectfully disagree that reinforcing the schools will solve the issue. The evil that occured and was in this individuals heart could have just as easily been carried out at the local YMCA, what about the football field, the soccar field, Walmart, a restaurant, a parade, etc.
We need to start figuring out how to recognizing when our fellow citizens need support socially and try to treat one another better so that we bring back a sense of comradship with our fellow citizens. Begin to Care about others. These days people go "unnoticed" because everyone is so busy and the culture has shifted to being unaccountable for our actions with the way we treat people. Maybe we need to start paying attention and taking the initiative to support those in need and be compassionatte and generous so that we can being to eliinate all the hate and anger. Just getting rid of gun's or in security equiptment is the easy part, we need to address the hard part of becoming better people.
Someone should investigate the money issue involving weapons. "LOBBYISTS" are paid BIG money, they do not care about ammendment rights. How many of NRA members own shares or are involve in companies making weapon?
This murderer wore bullet proof vest so if someone else in the school has gun, there is still no chance of taking him down without endangering others, bullets will be flying all over.
Aim for the head.
I am an American. I do not involve myself with issues in England, Australia, Canada, etc. Worry about your own land and if you are here and don't like it here; planes leave daily! When people finally stop playing politics with these sort of tragic events, it will be hopefully understood that every successful act of terror resulted from a lack of vigilance. We live in a great, safe country. Because of this, we are not as conscious as we should be to security breaches and potential threats. Those children and adults that were slaughtered were innocent lambs. A good shepherd understands that there are predators always lurking about; so he exercises extreme vigilance and employs guard dogs to help protect his vulnerable flock. Stepping up security is the answer. We like to say that our children are our most precious resource but do we protect them like they are? The Amish people are pacifists and are vulnerable to attack by outsiders. Some of them, realizing they cannot change the world and the evil nature of man, have employed Menonites to protect them from evil doers. There should be no school that does not have someone dedicated to protecting the students and staff at our schools. You have Security at your banks, your malls and your entertainment venues; why not at your schools? This should be regardless of grade level or how nice you deem your community to be. You always want to be a "hard target".
BRAVO, BRAVO, BRAVO Piers Morgan, for having the balls to say what you did on last night's show.
Why is it that every few months when this happens, the media are all over it, people talk about the tragedy of it
but then it's soon forgotten until it happens the next time. Why aren't people demonstrating in the streets over this?
The Americans suffer from OCD when it comes to their guns. The have a sick love for weapons and unless they
start loving their children more than their guns, nothing will ever change!
Ridiculous comment. I've never met a person who loved their guns more than their children. I am a former military veteran who fought in the war in Iraq. I can wholly say that I have firearms that are maintained and secured where children are unable to get them. The teaching and mentoring of my children is my number one priority. I teach them about life, love, loyalty, we read a chapter out of a book every night when we go to bed (currently Tom Sawyer).
I take my children to church so that the morals I introduce are reinforced and that they understand that life has consequences and that every life is valuable and precious.
On some weekends I go to the range and I fire my weapons, I go hunting occasionally, and I keep a pistol for personal protection in the event that someone attempts to break into my home and harm my family.
Owning a gun does not make me a lunatic, bad father, or a sociopath. A guy in China went into a school and stabbed 22 children. Of course people like Piers Morgan want to say, "Well more of them lived so its ok". How? The same policies meant to protect our kids didn't protect the Chinese kids. They were still stabbed and traumatized for life. The kids around them were traumatized for life. Whether a child see's 20 bodies or 10 bodies, do we really correlate that to a success? I hope the body count isn't the correlation gun control people are looking for.
The body count should be ZERO. This can only happen when we have real progressive change. First when I went to school (and I graduated from high school in 2001) there was a local Sheriff's Deputy that was assigned to the school. This was a rural school and never once had an instance of violence that I can remember hearing about, but he was still there. In the event a person had come into the school we had a trained police officer there to respond.
Either he could:
1. Stop the killer
2. Assist in evacuating people and coordinating other resources.
I worked in the Army as an investigator and I can't tell you how many times I came to a scene where there were conflicting stories, such as the suspect is inside with a firearm, the suspect ran out the back door, etc... yet neither turned out to be true. This is why we need trained professionals watching over our kids.
If police officers are out to Server and Protect, then let them. Stop cutting their funding, stop giving criminals easy targets, and stop saying that banning guns will solve this.
There are 150 mass shooting deaths per year and 15,000 single homicides. The criminals committing the 15,000 single homicides aren't going to care if you ban guns just like they don't care that Meth and Heroine are banned.
BRAVO INDEED.
This man is a breath of sanity.
As I read through some of the comments, I must say I was pretty shocked. WHAT WAS THE MURDERER'S MOTHER DOING WITH 3 WEAPONS? why were they available to her mentally unstable son?
my husband has a hunting rifle and a hand gun, so we are not anti gun, and we know that these massacres are not always preventable. however-putting more guns in the hands of the public, and allowing conceal and carry even at public political events, should be against the law. period. i am in full support of MR. MORGAN on this issue. but don't worry, NRA zealots...no one has the political courage to stand up to you-it's shameful, really.
how often do you hear someone survived or lived through a crime or that a life was saved because they were armed? do we live in a war zone, that we need to be armed like an army at war? disarming society does not make us vulnerable to criminals it only puts more responsibility on people to become more engaged with those around us, to care and love a little more, to shift focus from the defensive rather than put up a wall, and arm for the worse..we need to find ways to help those with who need help, whether it's a medical need, attention, or just love and good advise. eliminating guns will not solve the issue 100% that is true, but it will lessen the chances of falling victim to these now common scenarios. Gun ban education love = a step in the right direction.
These are the facts:
Number of deaths due to mass murders each year : About 150
Number of single homicide deaths: 15,000
The "assault rifle" was not used in the school shooting. Only the pistols were, so for Piers or anyone else to say that this rifle must be banned surely knew that it was found in the car. Also everyone who says, "It's not criminals who are committing these crimes its psychopaths with no criminal history".
Your correct, however, what about the 15,000 single homicides committed each year? Those in fact are primarily criminals. Generally people refer to certain portions of town or a city as unsafe, because they know that criminals are more prevalent in that area. That is just a fact of life, but if you take away Joe's guns in suburbia now Mr. Criminal isn't contained to one area, he has free reign to go and harm as he pleases because there is nobody who is going to stand in his way.
The bottom line is you can use the 150 deaths per year from mass shootings as a rallying cry to ban guns sure, but if you do then those 15,000 single homicides are going to rise dramatically. Piers has no clue because he's from a country with very few guns, but think about how long it would take America to become a gun-free culture? Maybe a hundred years? More? People are not going to give up their firearms and even if they did criminals will still possess them.
Ask any criminal if they've ever said, "Oh well there is a law against this crime so I won't commit it". Also ask any criminal if Meth and Heroine being illegal has stopped or slowed them from taking it? It hasn't.
I have hadn't had a chance to read the comments yet. But watching his show he was very angry, and I agree there are a lot of people angry! We have to stop this gun violence in USA. Our latest victims are small innocent children. Pierce, I agree with you! SOMETHING HAS BE DONE TO PREVENT THIS!!!!! My prayers and thoughts go out the victims and the families an the community. What a tragedy!!!
Since 1966, China's gun laws have remained some of the strictest in the world; including execution for committing a crime with a gun and a minimal 3-year prison sentence for even possessing a single gun. Yet, heinous crimes continue to occur in China.
In 2009 a security guard shot and killed three judges and wounded three others after stealing a sub-machine gun from a subordinate. In 2007, after making a homemade pistol a man killed 5 of his family members and friends. In one year alone -2010–2011- a series of mass stabbings and hammer attacks left a total of 21 dead and 90 injured, mostly children.
In March of 2010, a 50 year old man killed seven children and two adults and injured 11 others with a meat cleaver at a kindergarten. In August 2010, a 26 year old man stabbed 20 children and staff at a kindergarten, killing 4. In September 2011, 3 adults and one child were killed by a 20 year old axe-wielding man.
To quote a prominent criminologist from Beijing using a psedonym "Peng Weimin" stated "China has a serial killer problem." And that wasn't at all exaggerated. In 2003 a 20-year old man, Cheng Young Feng was sentenced to death after murdering 10 people. Chen Zheng Ping was arrested in 2002 for the deaths of 42 children, after lacing rice balls with rat poison. Peng Maiji used a meat cleaver to murder 77 people and was later executed in 2000. In 2006, Yang Xinhai was convicted of killing 65 men, women, and children -this being the highest tally of victims linked directly to a one single killer, by contrast, 48 in the US. He had used a bicycle for transportation and hammers, shovels, and axes to bludgeon and chop his victims.
Untold victims, quite possible numbering in the hundreds of thousands, many of whom were simply prisoners, convicted of petty crimes, have been murdered by their own medical communities with the aid of their law enforcement and military and covered up by their own government in China, for the sole purpose of organ harvesting. This is a particularly concerning crime that the government of China has yet to truly address. Can any of you even imagine organ harvesting by our military and law enforcement? Can you imagine a person, living in the US, being imprisoned for something petty – such as having been found with a joint on their person – they are then whisked away to a prison; only to be murdered by the prison staff and local hospital for their organs?
So, while China's gun crimes are almost non-existent, and their murder rate is less than half of Americas' would any of you rather live in China?
"Guns don't kill people...........People kill people.....with guns"
My heart goes out to the kids and parents. I'm still exploring in my own beliefs as to gun ownership. That said, what struck me last night, when I watched Mr. Morgan's show, was his utter lack of respect and the bullying of someone with a differing view. I thought there were compelling arguments by all. However, Mr. Morgan's behavior made him the least credible in my eyes. Who is anyone to think they have a monopoly on morality and/or rightfulness? Obviously the senseless killings are an important issue in this country. I would hope any discussion would start with respect for each other and an appreciation for all ideas.
This is not a moral issue. It is simply using common sense, logic and a willingness to look at the facts. Piers Morgan is frustrated because he cannot understand that there are still people around who do not see the simple facts.
Anybody with a sane mind understands that if many people in a country own guns you will also have more people becoming victim of these guns. And the countries where there is very very strict gun control (like the Netherlands) there is simply and endless amount of people less who become innocent victim of shootings (relatively of course). We never experienced a school shooting for example.
If you live by the gun, you die by the gun.
I'm not arguing either way and I'm not professing to have any facts. I'm saying there was a lack of respect in the discussion and that makes me less likely to believe him because of his utter disregard for respecting someone else. By the way, do you really mean that anyone who disagrees with your position is not sane? Is that position respectful?
I want to know why that white males are coming these crimes why is that not mention
Eduardo, the murder rates in Mexico, Cuba, Puerto Rico, El Salvador, Guatemala, Costa Rica, Honduras, Ecuador, Peru, and Venezuela, each more than double the murder rate in the United States. What is wrong with those "brown," people?
And what's wrong with the "yellow" people of China who on a regular basis have crazed men wielding axes going into kindergarten classes and hacking up 5 year olds!?
If you live by the gun, you die by the gun.
I thought in the US there are so many people true christians. But am I sure the morons that are still in favour of more guns, will probably also be able to produce the arguments that Jesus would be in favour of more guns.
I love americans, I love the US, you are a great nation. But on this point....my my my.....it will take another century before you come to the conclusion that it is actually best to get rid of these guns.
To the people in favour of more guns, I would like to say: don't worry about the children who died, and the many that will die in the future...just consider it 'colleteral damage' of your oh so 'smart' ways of dealing with guns in your society.
Jan
The Netherlands (where almost no one has a gun and where we have endlessy less innocent victims of shootings compared to the US. But hey...don't let yourself be bothered by the facts) 🙂
That is not a fair comparison – you have less than 5% of the population of the US. Tragic events like this happen what – 4-5 times a year at most? By population – if it happens once in four years in your counrty, it would be about the same rate.
I am comparing not on absolute basis but relative basis. So if we adjust for the difference in population the number of innocent people killed in shootings is endlessy lower compared to the number in the US.
We for example never had a shooting on a school.
Where I live in the United States, many of the thugs and gangs in this area use unregistered guns to commit their crimes. They then hide the guns around the city for the next one of their thug, gang members to find and to use to commit other crimes. I really wish we could enact laws such as those in China in regards to thugs and street criminals who use guns to commit crimes. In China they would be executed 3 weeks after the crime, no questions asked. LOL.
The problem goes beyond gun control; our moral fiber as a country is the issue. Here is my thoughts written and copyright protected in lyric form:
Oh My God
They took his word out of the law,
They said it wasn’t logical.
They took his name and said prayer is for home,
And if you pledge to God you must be alone.
They said we came from apes that the word can’t be true,
They made up our minds for me and you.
No Christ in Christmas, no nativity at all,
Then we look around and wonder how did we fall?
Oh my God we are dying.
Oh my God we’ve moved away from you.
Oh my God where’s King David?
Help keep us alive until the coming is due.
The Devil has made his mark; he’s taken hold.
He has skewed God’s word,
Slandered what we’ve been told.
There is no right or wrong,
Killing is just a game,
Hip hopping gangsters wanting glory and fame.
No pride, no remorse, they’ll just take it from you,
For God is just a word that has been removed.
Oh my God we are dying.
Oh my God we’ve moved away from you.
Oh my God where’s King David?
Help keep us alive until the coming is due.
The Ten Commandments in stone are the law of the land,
Let Freedom ring for every man, child and woman.
Oh my God, Oh my God, we need you.
Mr. Morgan,
Your temperament on your show about gun control is infuriating. Why have guests with different views to discuss an issue if you are too rude to allow them to speak?
Massacres with guns are a symptom. You can treat the symptom, but it does not cure the disease. This evening you made reference to the recent number of assaults compared to the last four (?) decades. Do you know how many states no longer can afford mental health care for their citizens? A system that used to be able to identify mentally dangerous individuals and furnish aid for them and assistance to their families, no longer exists. Does it strike you as strange that many of these shootings are perpetrated by young men in their late teens or early twenties? Do you suppose this might have something to do with the fact they are no longer eligible to be covered under their parent’s insurance plans? Do you know the cost of caring for a mentally ill or deranged child? (Perhaps the death by gun rate is lower in England because of their health care system? ) Do you know if you are aware a child might be dangerous and ask law enforcement for help they tell you they cannot do anything unless the child breaks a law?
In the future, I would hope you pass your yelling and cursing around. Let’s let government, the medical profession, pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies get their share of the blame! I once read, ”pencils don’t make mistakes, people do and guns don’t kill people, people do”. The sad part is, it is not just one young man’s hand on that trigger!
Is this Midwestern, sixty-two year old, white, female, mother and gun owner for gun control? Yes. Assault rifles do not need to be in the hands of John Q. Public. Thorough background checks should be a must. Gun shows should be outlawed. By all means, treat these symptoms, but let’s cure the disease!
Respectfully and thoughtfully,
Dee
First I would like to say my heart goes out to all of those familys. Second, I can't believe Morgan would be such an ass to debate this so fast. He couldn't even wait 24 hours. What a shame. I would like to make one point and that is that Mr. Morgan kept saying these people were killed by guns that were obtained legally......I beg to differ, the person who obtained them legally did not do this horriable crime. It was the person that killed her and stole them! If there is going to be a debate let's present the facts as they really are!
What would gun control do to prevent this? The guns weren't owned by the gunman and the AR was found in the car (wasn't even used).
Politcians and news media sound like complete idiots when they call for gun control during these times.
A person in china stabbed 22 children – there goes the knives!
I am afraid the complete idiot in this case is you.
You asked: would gun control prevented this?
Yes, because in a country like the netherlands were almost no one has a gun in house, adam lanza would not have had access to a gun. In the US he just had to open the closet of his mother to get three. If you do not see the logic of this I am afraid you will never understand.
But hee.....why bother about the dead kids? This is is just collateral damage for your love for guns.
stop diluting yourself and wake up, case 22 wounded doesn't equal 27 dead!!!!
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT MY HEART IS SAD FOR THE CHILDREN AND THE PARENTS. I AM PRAYING FOR THE SURVIVING FAMILES AND THE SOULS OF THOSE CHILDREN. I AM A CHRISTIAN AND A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN. I HAVE A CHILD AND I AM ASTOUNDED AT HOW SELF SERVING PEOPLE ARE TO DEBATE ABOUT GUNS AT A TIME LIKE THIS. HOW DO YOU THNIK THE PARENTS OF THOSE DEAD CHILDREN FEEL WHEN WE ARE FOCUSING ON GUNS AND NOT THEM. THE PERSON THAT DID THESE SHOOTINGS WAS DESENSITIZED BY PSYCHOLOGICAL PUNISHMENT AND TERRORIZED. THESE TYPES OF SHOOTINGS DONE BY OUR YOUTH ARE A CLEAR MARK OF WHATS WRONG WITH OUR SOCIETY AND THE SYSTEM. OUTLAW CHILD ABUSE AND BULLYING AND GET KIDS MENTAL HEALTH HELP. IF YOU WANT TO OUTLAW SOMETHING TRY GAME CONTROL OR MOVIE CONTROL AND HELP PARENTS TEACH THEIR CHILDREN NOT TERRORIZE THEM. MY CHILD HAS NEVER TAKEN UP ONE OF MY GUNS AGAINST ME OR HIS SCHOOL AND MILLIONS OF OTHER CHILDREN HAVE NOT EITHER!!
CHRIS
To start getting serious about gun control, the media needs to advertise commercials about the horrors of the mass shootings and gun violence in America, and how guns make the NRA and gun lobbyists big money. Take cigarette smoking for example, 20 to 30 years ago it was cool to smoke. Today the commercials are so graphic on how bad smoking is for you that people who smoke are now seen as the outcasts of society. That cultural shift needs to happen for gun control and then the politicians will start making tougher gun control laws.
I'm not really surprised that many of the comments here are pro-"guns-for-everybody", what else can you expect by the people of a country, which always started every year for the last 6-7 decades with a dart aiming on a worldmap to decide which country should be "pacified" in the upcoming year.
The 'logic' of the gunlobby:
"IF YOU LIVE BY THE GUN, YOU SAVE YOUR LIFE BY THE GUN"
But hey...actually they are right. If the teacher would have had a loaded gun in her hand while teaching 5 year olds math, each day, each lesson and if she would have pointed the gun at all times to the door waiting for a shooter to come in, she could have prevented this killing.
And the mother of Adam Lanza as well. If she would have simply always kept her gun pointed at her son at all times, she could have prevented her son to shoot her head off with her own gun.
Hahaha......and there are still people who even need to think about this...
But hey....it is just 20 kids.......let us call it a day and move on to the next shooting.
Because that is how you organised your society...
YOU ARE A HERO PIERS.
GO FOR IT.
SPEAK THE TRUTH. YOUR FAN BASE GROWS BY THE SECOND.
THE MAJORITY ARE BEHIND YOU.
Follow away. Follow the liberal media. We don't need you leading the sheep off a cliff. Just stay right with types like Morgan...right where they need you.
Do you honestly think that people will turn in their guns? It's not the crazy suicidal nuts that scare me. IT'S THE FELONS WHO AQUIRE THEIR GUNS ILLEGALLY! You tell law abiding citizens to turn in their guns you turn America into Disney Land for the criminals. FREE WALLETS AND CARS AT GUNPOINT! The criminals won't turn their guns in. I don't personally own a gun btw.
BUT RYAN , you need to think a little bit harder.
If LESS people have guns there will be LESS shootings.
Its not hard to work out.
No one is saying that it will stop all shootings, BUT IT WILL HELP.
Dont let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Go to the NRA.
They even misquote the 2nd amendment.
The second amendment was set up so that Americans "in the absence of an armed militia" had the right to bear arms.
Now we have by far the biggest standing army on earth, so the average guy does not need a gun.
But the gun lobby, simply the guys who get their money selling death machines, fool people into only reading the first half of the second amenment.
ANd stupid passive consumers American born into a bath of mindless consumerism, – BUY IT.
I meant they are all stupid.
And its the stupidity that is killing our children.
Bro, I totally agree with your points of view, greetings from germany..
Thank you, Piers . This is a much needed debate that has been all but silenced by a narrow group of people with gun industry help...and politicians weakness. Stay on the subject and the examples from around the world that show that our "exceptionalism" is literally killing our kids and society. God bless America and God help America.
Morgan shrill delivery of the adminstration's talking points was so obviously him being the obedient lap dog for a gun control agenda. His guests were just the props. Morgan was armed with a message to cram through. Thats a goal of this adminstration, and the strategy. Set the stage, create the drama, put shrill voice pieces out to carry the message, stir up the non-thinking public and then " solve" the problem the administration creates to enable Obama to shove through his agenda by any means necesary. Without a trajedy, how could he easily consifcate every citizen's guns? Aside from this obvious agenda, the war on drugs has worked SO well that we should give government another platform on which to throw its weight about. Morgan you are obviously a mouthpiece.
Being lectured to by a guy who orchestrated the hacking of private citizens phones is laughable. Did the Mail fire that idiot?
If the shooter didn't use a gun he would have ran them over with a vehicle instead. Should we ban vehicles for fear of a crazy nut running our kids over?
Yeah, I'd love the headline to your fantasy-story: "Jeep enters schoolbuilding and kills 20 innocent kids by driving into their classroom during math lesson".....
Amazing,Not a word about Hollywood,How guns are Presented.the Movies,Police shows,CHILDRENS apps.(how to make a bomb)Everyone thinks it's OK to have a gun
We have the 2nd amendment. Should cars be banned? Cars could easily be used as weapons and do kill thousands every year. This tragedy was perpetrated by a killer not by an inanimate object and by distracting from that point you forget there was a man behind the gun.
Piers,
You are so right ! Thank you for telling the truth to the people! It all comes down to education , and it is not very high in the US.
Of course they are not telling anybody ,that the NRA is making billions of dollars in profit by selling guns , and they don't care how many people die. It is the same as the tobacco industry. And hopefully they will be penalized too, just like them.
Right on, Sister!!!!!
Yah! You go girl! While we solving social problems through draconian legislation lets ban people and companies who make millions exploiting tragedies like this. Did you know there are people who literally wait for this stuff to happen and then go there with cameras and film it so they can sell it? Sounds pretty immoral right? First amendment you say? Well who cares about your inalienable right to free speech. Think of the children and I'm sure you will agree that Free Speech is an antiquated concept and really pretty immoral when you think about it. Save the children! Ban the News!
This isn't so much about gun control as it is about public health, mental health that is. Discourse is everywhere in America. From from political sparring in Washington to street gangs in Chicago, fighting is the standard response. Violence has become the first response rather than negotiating, mediating, compromising or reconciling. And when guns are so readily available, it is too easy to use a weapon in an irrational moment.
A friend of mine wrote a book and has a website, "Peace Anonymous" through which he is trying to create a movement, based on the 12 steps of AA, to curb America's addiction to violence. I encourage everyone to google it, like it, and read some of his postings. It will make you think. And if more people chose to think instead of fight, it will be a good thing.
Thank you Pierce Morgan for standing up to the heartless segment of Americans who are still opposing gun control. No other American reporter or politician has the guts to face up to this malaise in the US society as you. The fear of the wicked reprisal by this Taliban like segment is ever present.. I used to look at you as a "paparazzi" reporter but the intensity and dedication with which you are pursuing this humanitarian mission put you in the Nelson Mandela class in my world.
Please keep up the good work and I only hope that the gun lobby does not wear you down.
Thank you to Pierce Morgan for taking a strong stance. End these cycles of violence.
Piers, though I like him usually, is so off on this it/s rediculous. The issue is how in the world did this school allow this guy to enter with full body armor, camo clothes, an assault rife and two hand guns????? The school is responsible for this tragedy, and they know it. They did not protect their children, that's the issue that piers won't talk about.
Piers Morgan is a loud-mouth. Again, any tragedy like this that happens , the anti gun guys go nuts. The fact is that YES...this was a horrible tragedy. To make this about gun control is rediculous. He stole the guns from his mother. The thing that no anti gun advocate wants to recognize is that there are thousands of gun crimes committed each year by ILLEGAL firearms...maybe concentrate on getting these illegal guns out of the hands of the criminals and more in the hands of responsible law abiding citizens. The gun lobbyist that was on his show last night was horrible and could not complete a sentence. For the handful of these tragedies...there are thousands of tragedies every day in America that no amount of laws are going to stop,..criminals don't follow the law...that's why they call them criminals..,.one day, Mr Morgan..you might be in a grocery store with your family and someone robs it...the only thing that may be stopping that man from killing your family in front of you may be consealed on someone in there with you...you would be for more guns at that point wouldn't ya?
Our heart goes out to the victims' families and friends. Terrible things like this can happen anywhere, but when it happens here in the U.S.A, it’s an American problem, and we need American people to stand together and fix it. We simply don't need any foreigners to butt in on what we should and shouldn’t do. Just let we don’t tell you how should or shouldn’t you make your laws and manage your counties. There is no question that we need to make our schools safer, but thinking by simply taking the firearms out of law abiding citizens’ hands will completely prevent this kind of incidents from happening, is just being plain ignorance! If there was just one Resource Officer is assigned and were present at Sandy Hook school, this might not have happened. And that’s something that can be done quickly and effectively to make our school safer.
I never comment on things like this but the passion shown by Piers last night moved me. Being an average Canadian citizen, I do not have a gun in my home nor do I know anyone that has a gun in their home – except for the game hunters – who are required by law to have them locked up all the time. My confusion starts with the mentality of the citizens of the United States. Why do they feel they need to have a gun in their home? If they are serious about diminishing these instances of insane shooting sprees, why wait for politics, gun control laws etc. Its the people of the United States that need to hold drives to have everyone voluntarily turn in their guns. It is that simple – the less guns out there – the less likelihood of these crimes happening. I know it will not make the completely go away but as Piers said last night – why does a mom have these weapons in her possession? More guns is not the answer! Let the people of the United States start fixing this problem by changing their mentality of guns – it would be a start. My heart goes out to all the families who have lost their loved ones!
please ask yourself one question, how in the world did this school allow this to happen? That is the only issue at hand, not how many guns we have in our homes. The School is responsible for this tragedy period.
Really!!!!! So all the schools in America need to be bullet proof buildings with no windows so that are children our safe. Anyone with a gun and determination to commit a crime will – not matter how safe you think you have made your school. Once again... it's all about the guns!
When tragic incident happens here in the US, it's an American domestic problem. Your suggestions are well noted, but we simply don't need Canadian citizens to tell us what should or shouldn't we do on our problems.
Where did Pierce Morgan get his facts last night on the show? over 100s of rounds were fired? Really? Who gave him that number? the rifle was left in the car, wasn't even used by the murderer. and to fire over 100 rounds of ammunition with the handguns, it takes 6 or 7 times of reloading with high cap magazines. Just wondering if Pierce really had his fact together before shouting out in the show.
Laws alone won't end the violence, as it's largely a cultural problem. We in this country idolize violence. From Godfather in the 70's, to Scarface, Martyrs, and Apocalypse Now, the blood baths have snowballed over the years. At one time you saw them through the eyes of the victims, but many if not most today are 'first person', i.e. you being the attacker.
Prime example: Natural Born Killers, which not only takes you along for the ride, but sucks youngin's into first sequestering a justification to rebel, and then glamorizing their killing escapades as not just fun, but meaningful and adventurous escapades.
From Rotten Tomatoes' review, "Natural Born Killers will thoroughly alienate many viewers with its shock tactics, chaotic approach, and disturbing subject matter, while others will value the combination of technical virtuosity and dark commentary on the modern American landscape."
And indeed it did, garnering mostly positive reviews, and eliciting a number of 'copycat' killings, as well as a few lawsuits by victims.
But it's not just killing, it's the ecstasy of gun toting and multi-round shooting that is seemingly the attraction. First Person Shooter games (FPS), along with the newer third person versions [you can see your avatar] can be hypnotic. Lanza was a gamer, chronicled in a Bennetts Farm neighborhood booklet, and was on anti-depressant drugs, which can cause mental aberrations, and subsequent deviant behavior. But given that possible susceptibility, can long term gaming so induce? Go here for the answer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGFmzub128I
In short, we need:
• Uniform gun laws, some 'National' rather than 'State' only.
• Possible restrictions on semi-automatics and large ammo clips.
• A closer look at the psychological effects of drugs and FP Shooter games.
And yes, the study needs to start in Newtown, CT.
Hooray, copied right from the "Idiot's Guide To Stopping Violence" . Step one: Find something new fangled and confusing. Step two: Blame that! Hey here's an idea. Get a layman's grasp of BASIC STATISTICS before you start spouting unfounded trash. It's a good thing we invented video games so we can blame them for everything. Pro-tip. If your solution to a problem involves trying to "Undo" a popular part of normal life through legislation? It's the wrong solution.