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Dr. Michael Welner on the Sandy Hook Elementary massacre: "This is an indefensible act"
Tonight, "Piers Morgan Tonight" welcomes Dr. Michael Welner and Dr. Mehmet Oz for an insightful discussion inside the mind of a killer. Welner, a forensic psychiatrist at NYU Medical Center, says the shooter's behavior in the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre was disgusting. "This is an indefensible act," he says.
"If we don't collectively, in the press and leadership, say 'this is disgusting, this is repulsive' but rather to say 'who failed him?' then everyone who has a grievance, like him, who nurtures it and then says finally 'I want my grievance to be heard because I'm anonymous' there is an incentive for relevance and there is a vehicle for escapism of video game immersion who want to be deadened to crawl in the cracks and stay there where no one can discover them until it's too late."
Oz, host of "The Dr. Oz Show" is more concerned with mental health than guns in America:
"We need a homeland security approach to mental illness," Oz says. "In psychiatry - hands are bound. So many rules govern what they are allowed to do it makes it almost impossible for them to be able to provide that type of broad scale support."
Tune in at 9 p.m. for a live update, discussion and debate on guns and mental health in America.
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Please start to address the issues of " who are the gun users" not just how many guns are out there. Factors leading up to the users are violence in movies, video games, not enough parental interaction in the family. Get Hollywood actors and producers on your show to talk about why are they making such movies. Never hear any of these questions to the Hollywood people. Also medical doctors prescribing drugs to young people who then have altering behavioral problems. These are contributing factors that cause guns to be used. Please dig deep and keeping them honest on your program.
Root Cause: Incessant viewing of violence amusements can drive psychosis to extreme acts. Make them unlawful! #SCOTUS #POTUS #NRA #GOP
Whether you are for or against gun control you should never accept this form of journalism, actually this isn't even journalism. It's crazy, while gun control may be an issue, it is becoming more clear everyday that the US media system is completely corrupt, bias, and subjective.
What is even more pathetic is that CNN and FOX have both profited off of this tragedy.
To Mr Morgan i think you need to get your fax strat on how fast a assult rilfe that civillans have dose not shoot 40 rounds a secound thay only go as fast as you can pull the trigger. That is why thay call them simi automitic guns.Now the one that the military and the cops and the atf and fbi use are fully automitic thay will shoot 60 round per secound.You are talking about the kids that was killed in sandy hook what about the ones killed at waco by atf the tbi and those kids was tourched by gas builts comming from fully atomitic guns from out side. and know one was ever held acountable for that.If you realy want to know why I think I need my assult rifle have me on your show ill tell you.
Get serious here. Why do you need a semi-automatic? What's it used for, eh? BTW, learn to spell right, ok?
Google the Stats: Murder rate Detroit Michigan 2010=364; 2011=308 souls lost
Murder rate Windsor ontario – less than a mile across the border & Detroit rRver 2010= ZERO; 2011=ZERO. Twin cities devided by a narrow river, connected by 2 tunnels & a bridge.
For sanity & intelligence look north of the border. For Cowboys & idiots (& Pratts) look South of the border!
God Rest the souls of the innocents in Newtown. God Bless those who mourn them.
Question to all "Good Christian" folk who support the NRA: W.W.J.D? -Here's your answer:
Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword (Matthew 26:52, King James Version).
If Americans choose to live by the gun, the Bible explains what to expect as the consequence.
God Bless Newtown & the massacred Holy Innocents.
Where guns (pistols, rifles, assault, and high capacity clips, et al) are "everywhere" in our society, persons who, for whatever reason, "lose" all sense of "hope" (for whatever reason, and it may not be a "reasonable reason") that person may "snap" and become a mass murder "shooter." When mental health access becomes as accepted and as available as guns, then we have a chance to turn this out-of-control turn toward violence in our American society. Senator Dianne Feinstein was recently seen on TV being interviewed regarding Newtown and its horror, and she said, "Is this America? I don't think so!" Well, I have news for you Honorable, senator, "THIS IS AMERICA NOW!!!" Until Mental Health is as "funded" and available and accessible and accessed as often as guns, we will continue to have these events. The NRA (I am a 2nd Amendment supporter, not an NRA supporter) is not the enemy "the enemy" is the lack of will, the abundance of objection to funding mental health care and access.
Walter. Well and good. However, the issue is assault weapons and why the need for them to be legal to purchase. We get the 2nd amendment here. Think about it, if assault weapons were not available, this killer would not have gotten his hands on one and wantonly and callously slaughtered all those children, right? Sure he'll use a simple pistol or rifle, but, as horrible as this sounds, collatoral damage would have been minimized. Can't you and others here see the sense in this?
I would also add, Walter, that the need for reform in mental health treatment is what one needs to include when you talk about mental health services being as available as guns. The abusive, dehumanizing and violent forms of mental health treatment, and mental health "treatments" that are motivated by the love of money more than the love of country and our citizens need to be stopped completely. If you want to see a system of mental health treatment that works and saves the country money look at the Open Dialogue treatment in Finland which HEALS the worst kinds of mental illness. When individuals have a nation that will uphold the value of the lives of its individuals, this, in and of itself is a factor in having mentally well citizens.
Yes.
Mary Rose,
Excelente comment, bravo.But will they take note.
thank you
Det.Frank Serpico NYPD ret.
I'm a retired Marine and gun collector....its none of your business what i want to own and how i use it. For you to use your bully pull pit to say that people in America should not be able to own certain weapons is none of your British business. If you dont like our gun rights, then the solution for you is easy.......Go Home.......
Amen!!!!
Amen!!!!
Why don't you tell Dylan Hockley's family they should NEVER having come to America instead?
But you know what, Terry? American's are dying under the 5th ammendment and the hispanics
are taking over. Serves you right. Cheers!!
The issue not being addressed is that guns are far more accessible than mental health care and support, and its the "crazies" whether temporarily by an adverse life event or suffering brain "damage" that is the real issue. Until we are willing to "fund" our "America" to become a "mental health" oriented society, the "violence" oriented reality will be constant and repeating in things like Sand Hook.
This is why we have the problems in this country ,people wanting to tell me what I can own, it none of your business what gun I have ,my heart go out for those children I have been so sadden from this so much ,it is not gun owner it's more a society issues ,it disturb people that are doing these horrible act .i need a way to protect my family
Need a way to protect your family? What's ailing you, Tim? What are you paranoid about? I like to see you look into the eyes of every dead child's parents and tell them to their face about your need for your guns. Now go back in the woods and stay there. I'll feel better and more safer that the likes of you are outa sight, outa mind.
Guns don't decide to kill people, bullets do not decide to kill people, and the argument about removing guns will not remove the "will" to violence and killing that can easily be done in any other number of ways. The issue is that "we" in America become something different than who we "are" now–violence oriented in settling our sense of individual anger, rage, complaint, angst, injustice, you name it. We shun mental health and glamorize guns, we get people using guns instead of mental health care. That is the key issue. The real issue, regardless of whether you take away all guns or not. The fear that you are going to take "some" persons' guns away will result in them using their guns in mass killings. It's called "blow back" and you/we will see it soon–more gun violence not less over the paranoia about the "government" taking away "our" guns.
Mr. Pierce Olbermann Morgan's loyalty and focus has been towards more legislation surrounding gun control versus providing suffering families and Americans the time to grieve. Most insensitive gesture and part of his self fulfulling prophecy. I surmize that Mr. Olbermann Morgan's ratings begin to fall as followers become disenchanted with this type of 'entertainment' versus real news.
We control many things, and "reasonable" control is needed, and we as a society should control many things, like extremely lethal/addicting substances, speed of cars on roads, shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, etc. What that control may be on guns ought to arrive a reasonable control. "No" controls at all is unreasonable. "Taking away" guns is unreasonable. We must arrive at what is "reasonable." But guns or no guns, there is no solution if "hopeless" people have access to cars, knives, deadly chemicals, many things with which they can kill people. The issue is "mental health" and the irony is that those who defend no limits on guns seem to be against any public funding on mental health which is the root of the cause of violence. Just like Benghazi, the people complaining that the State Department didn't protect the lives of our Americans there also voted against funding additional "protection." So who is really at fault?
Amen! Speak for yourself mr. Morgan not all Americans feel the same as you do! I love my right to have a firearm, although I'm sadden from what that looney toon did to those people, but he had it in his head to kill, even if there were no guns in that house, he would have used something else! It's not the guns, the type of guns, it's the deranged! And his mothers irresponsibly to store them the correct way, but again he would have used something else! It is because of people just like that, that is why I have firearms!
Beth, you're the loony here! The pt. is if those semi-automatics weren't legal or available on the market, that loony you call him, wouldn't have gotten his hands on it in the first place and those children would've been alive now!
Those of you that are quick to jump on Piers for being British, seem to dislike Brits... It's not difficult for me to imagine what other people you dislike... I can imagine that you also dislike other immigrants, or people of color... how quickly you turn to labels- to try to dismiss Piers from the Bucolic green hills as some foreigner who should not be listened to... when of course the major voices for gun mania are white men... white men who don't like Brits... I will just bet they hate the usual "others" as well... you know people who are in gangs or inner city people.. those people.
For all you gun wackos out there. Here's a little perspective here written by a John Oliver. Think about it.
"One failed atempt at a shoe bomb and we all take off our shoes at the airport. Thirty-one, that's 31, school shootings since Columbine and no change in our regulation of guns." SHAMEFUL!!!
Yes.
Piers: I am armed and military trained to handle weapons. All of my weapons are in a safe with trigger locks. The ammo is secured in a separate safe. None have hurt anyone. If addressing gun violence is the agenda; There is a box that brings it into my living room all day long. Zombies is entertainment? Tom Cruse movie postponed? Game consoles, all gun violent. Did your segment the other night address any of this? Did guns blow up the train in Spain, or the bus in England or bring down the WTC? Would CNN allow you to run a campaign to clean up the airwaves too?
I am a fan...I watch your show...my heart bleeds for Sandy Hook. If we make changes...Make big ones.
Eric
Stop making excuses: it's guns that let go of bullets...you're asking pure stupid questions re; Spain & British bombs, are is it you're not up with the news that terrorists used rucksacks with bombs in them on those terrible days? But all the American massacres are caused by people with guns, & they're not all mad. I repeat, "GUNS"!
Yes; even the lack of guns didn't stop the violence.
Piers, like I, simply want the answer to why there's a need for semi-automatics and the like to be readily available? Pratt deserved to be called incredibly stupid because he was avoiding this simple question and rambled and laughed on and on by totally dismissing the seriousness of this issue and disrespecting the dead for not answering this question. I would like to know why there is a need to have these types of WMD, that's right, weapons of mass destruction available? Don't give me that 2nd amendment b.s. either. We get it.
ask the chinas people that was standing and throwing rock at tanks that is what the 2 amendment is there for.you see in china that tell you only one kid and if that kid is a girl look out so what you want for us in american to be like the chinase??????
o you did say smi automtic guns right well the worst death of kids was a waco there was 27 ranging from 2 infants to25 othere kids ranging as far up as 12 thay was gased, burnt, shot, at with fully automtic guns and tanks owend by the atf tbi militry cops cia and so on and so on all told 50 are so people was killed and now one had anything done to them about that??????
Eric. Perhaps you can be part of the solution. It sounds like you are a responsible gun owner, who would no more think of hurting someone that I would (never owned a gun). I can't see how you would would be against gun control that 1) requires training similar to your military experience in both handling and safely storing them 2) makes this kind of training and demonstrated proficiency a requirement before a gun license is issued, and 3) has a licensing similar to the DMV that differentiats between licenses cars, trucks and motorcycles for various styles of guns. I just can't understand why driving a vehicle should require so much more training than owning a gun. What do you think??
I just can't understand why driving a vehicle should require so much more training than owning a gun.
Gotta be the dumbest question ever put forward as an argument to this problem.
Criminals and insane people dont give a hoot about the 3 points you have so brilliantly figured out.Were talkn about crims, murderers, mass murderers and people who are in sane. They will do what they do regardless of any laws or restrictions clueless people like you try to bring up as solutions to this situation. Get a life.
Chris Donner was the best trained & most responsible gun owner _ & really nice guy (by reports) – Until he went beserk. Brain tumours & trauma / stress can happen to the nicest people. – Turning then ' not criminally responsible" temp or permanently. Gun laws need to be tightened.
and how in the world is more laws gonna stop those in the "Doner" category youve explained may I ask? Absolutely nothing.
If the police are allowed semi's for protection with high capacity clips then why shouldnt the ordinary citizen have the same advantage at self defence?
Terrorists are laughing at the US. They don't need to make any effort to destroy you. US citizens are massacaring themselves & demanding the right to carry on! Tourists, on the other hand, are taking their dollars to safe, civilized countries.
Mr. Morgan asks who needs an AR-15 or similar weapon, why would anyone need an 98 cylinder Mercedes or Ferrari? Why would a family of four need 3000 SF house? why, why? We do not decide what other people need of a legal product. All the recent masacarres would have happened without so called Assault rifles.
PS. I have never owned a gun, my wife would not live where we need one.
What's your thought on cigarettes? That's legal. What's you point here?
Do you think the UN should pose sanctions on the US for using drones against civilians in Pakistan? Thousands of innocent people have been slaughtered in the name of terrorism..
Maybe we should outlaw drones?
Outlaw the mass murder of innocent men women n children all over the world.
That "Pratt" (the gunman spokesman) has an appropriate name; because he is a right "Prat"!
and Penis Organs name is also very very appropriate LOL
Or perhaps penisASS Morgan even better....
Please oh Please, ask the gentleman who Piers is interviewing right now – please ask him do we need to now carry guns EVERY WHERE, so that we are safe – is that the point he is trying to make? What happen to the safe town of Sandy Hook – it was safe! Until what happened last Friday! If I'm understanding this man correctly, he thinks we'll all be safer carrying guns in school, movies, malls UNBELIEVABLE!
Please ask these clowns like Pratt and every politician supporting guns, how much they are getting paid by the NRA and other gun lobbies. This isn't rocket science follow the money and take these idiots down.
Way to go Piers... Pratt is an idiot and thanks for standing up to him!!
Wow...so impressed with your intelligence Mr. Morgan. When debating with your guest on the issue of gun control, you can't come up with a better response than to just insult him by calling him a "stupid man"? Come on. Thought you were more capable than that. Maybe you should stick with showbiz.
I would hate to think what you would say if you were under the same pressure as Piers is.. He did a great job despite this terrible tragedy and having to face off with these gun supporters, and feeling sensitive to this issue because he has small children of his own. Pratt was not any better making a general insult towards Brits.
Rose...you're serious??? Piers...just go home...
What does semantics, or Piers Morgan for that matter, have to do with this gun issue and this tragedy? Bottom line, guns should be out of peoples' homes and in safe keeping...period!!!
Piers Thanks for addressing this gun issue in America and also putting that idiot you had on your program today.
he is really an idiot and should not event got the opportunity to be on your program. Thanks again
Whether you are for gun control or not, calling people names has no place in journalism. CNN is not a news network, it is an entertainment network that profits off of ignorance, stupidity, and unforgettably the exploitation of tragedies.
No matter how uncomfortable the subject is, it's now time to address this "in your face" style because people like me are saying ENOUGH is ENOUGH and we're not going to tolerate this no more. You cannot sweep this issue under the rug. We have to face it and obliterate it.
Piiers, loved your debate with the Exec. Dir. of gun Owners of America. Its down to idiots like him. Thank you Piers
I just want to say that it's extremely annoying when Mr. Piers talks all over his guests. Even if Mr. Piers does not agree with his guests, he still should allow them the opportunity to express themselves. It's rude when he constantly interrupts his guests. I often get so annoyed that I switch channels. He proves to everyone that he has zero class when he calls his guests offensive names, such as "idiot". Grow up, buddy.
Basically he said my 6 year old needs to defend himself at school.......
Larry Pratt made Piers look foolish and inept. Piers was unprofessional and repeatedly did a poor job at handling what could have been a good interview.
I thought Piers did well. What does it take to get the message to wackos like Pratt to get it that there's no place for assault weapons on 6 & 7 year old children?? Mr. Pratt comes off as a paranoid, freaky, gun nut exploiting the true meaning of the 2nd amendment right.
Larry Pratt successfully made Piers look more obnoxious than Sean Hannety. I did not think this was possible. GO HOME PIERS, leave America to Americans.
piers. I am cheering you on as I watch this debate! what a freaking moron! I do not understand why anyone needs a gun. Ever! There is no reason.. I support you one thousand percent. If Americans would only ask themselves. Why do I need a gun of any kind? Really this isn't 1700 anymore. Yes bad people will get their hands on one if they want but allowing people to buy them at Walmart or online is absolute lunacy. Blaming it on mental health is not an excuse... Ban guns is the answer to reduce these tragedies..... Americans have a really super screwed up way at looking at guns..... I am with you...
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Forced "no guns" vs. "forced" no restrictions on guns is mutually insane. Reasonable regulations is the answer for America, and mental health is a serious matter that is "forced" in being covered-up as I think was the case with Lanza. He needed much more mental health care "a long time ago." That he had guns at his finger tips and even was taught to use them by his mother whom he murdered shows the complete insanity of "take away all guns" or "no limits at all on guns" or "mental health is your problem not mine." We seem to be saying these things over and over–it's all wrong.
Americans need guns for protection of LIFE and Liberty. It is an Unalienable RIGHT.Ban guns and only crims military and Gov will have them. The gov is not in the least bit interested in protecting you in your home.Its somethn you n you alone are responsible for.
Piers, thank you for your continued spotlight on the out of control gun violence in the US. May Mr. Pratt rot in hell....what a pompous ass to say the shooter was EVIL, forget any mental illness that may have contributed to the situation. What a complete idiot!!! Why do we have ANYA KIND of laws if we are such a sad sack society that we can't manage them? Why have speed limits, why can't anyone have a nuclear weapon?? Why do we give a fig about any other country having nuclear weapons?? I'm sick to my gills of people justifying their own selfish desire to play Rambo over the lives of fellow citizens and especially children. THERE MUST BE EMPHASIS ON MENTAL HEALTH CARE AND TESTING AND THERE MUST BE A BAN OF ASSAULT WEAPONS AND HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINES.
I totally agree, Mandy. Piers has presented evidence that other countries with strong gun control have minimal deaths by gunfire, compared to the outlandish amount in the U.S. This monstrous group of lobbyists (NRA) have complete control over our Congress. It's time for the American public to make some noise...LOUD noise...and get the assault weapons out of the hands of civilians.
why do the police need the very same weapons types you people wanna take from citizens that give them their ability and right to defend themselves?
Pierce, I am from Canada and watching what happened at Sandy Hook and the debates on Gun Control and the legality of assault weapons really distresses me. In Canada there is a limit on magazine sizes for rifles of only five bullets maximum. All rifles whether it has a built in magazine or removable all need to be modified to hold only five cartridges. The way we see it, if you have a rifle you use it f
Piers Morgan is rude! No matter who he interviews if they do not agree with him and the topic he resorts to calling people names. To me that means that he is very DUMB AND STUPID. If you treat people with respect you will get respect and I no longer respect Mr. Morgan. This is not only over the gun issue but any of the issues he discusses. Of course, this is just my opinion.
I thought Piers did great. When you hear idiotic and nonsensicle statements coming out of a wacko like Pratt, what'd you expect?
He talks over his guests, doesn't give his guests a chance to tell their side, he's immature, a horrible role model when he calls his guests "idiot", he has NO CLASS !!! I agree with much of Pier's arguments but I often switch the channel during heated arguments because, what's the point, I cannot understand what two people are saying when they are arguing at the same time. Reminds me of Jerry Springer show or when a show bleeps out every other word. So annoying.
Thank you Piers for letting Mr. Pratt have it! He is a prime example of the ignorance that abounds in this country when it come to guns. Get rid of all of them, not just the assault weapons, and we will not have this problem. Policemen and hunters for sport are the only ones who should be permitted to carry guns. Where is Pratts common sense? His remarks made no sense.
since the total gun bans in Australia and GBritain, violent crime and murder has escalated and grown exponentially. How come? Home invasions on the increase. The ordinary citizen has no defence against the armed intruder. I dont understand your stance. Many more people including children die from medical mal practice than from gun violence.Go figure.
I can no longer watch PM because the very few times I have tried he is just rude, obnoxious, belligerent, and a one-sided bigot. What happened to journalist being impartial and hearing both sides of the story?
It’s gotten to the point that even if I agreed on something with PM (which I typically do not) I just can’t watch him. I’ve been home sick and can’t thank CNN enough for their coverage of the horrifying events of the past weekend. But when PM comes on, I have to turn the channel.
I beg the producers of CNN to please find someone or something else to fill this spot that equals the rest of the excellent reporting that the entire CNN crew does. PM does a great injustice to the entire team.
I agree. The only person who's as obnoxious as Piers is Sean Hannety. Unfortunately they are on at the same time. I switched to my least favorite show (wife's favorite) on the Travel Channel about spoiled brats picking out which house in wherever they want to buy.
Piers,
There is one fact that trumps everything. The AR15 rifle was manufactured for the military to do one thing and one thing only. The AR 15 is designed to KILL PEOPLE. End of conversation. It should be banned, along with high capacity magazines. If you are a hunter you know that hunting laws restrict the amount of bullets in a weapon is limited.
All guns were designed to do one thing, shoot a bullet. If the shooter did not have access to the AR he would have used the shotgun, if he did not have the shotgun he would have used the pistols. The horrible end result would be the same. Its not the gun that did the killing. Add a hundred new gun laws to the system and ban all the gun types you want, this will not deter the next sick person from doing the same type of terrible act. Knee jerk reactions to ban the "scarey looking" AR simply will not stop the next killer from killing. As for high capacity clips- cant get a 30 round clip, just buy three 10 round clips, takes half a second to change clips, again another useless idea.
You got to be kidding here! Doofus, how many rounds does a simple handgun shoot off? How many rounds does a rifle shoot off? I venture to say a lot FEWER than 30-50 rounds and tragic as this sounds, a lot less carnage than AR semi-automatic. Get your head out of your ***** and talk some sense here and think intelligently here.
The AR 15 is designed to KILL PEOPLE. End of conversation...
is there any weapon/gun not designed to kill people or gun that cannot killpeople.BB guns excluded of course :o)
Piers Morgan just conducted one of the most unprofessional interviews I have ever seen in all my 53 years. Maybe this type of journalism is acceptable in Great Britain, but has no place on American T.V. Do you think you are Simon Cowell, and your show is American Idol where it is acceptable to criticize and humiliate the guests? You don't hold a candle to Larry King. Take your arrogant, unAmerican,intolerant, pretentious, know-it-all self back to England, Mr. Morgan. You are no longer welcome in my living room.
Why Mary? Are you afraid of the truth; that there are too many guns in too many Americans hands...in too many American homes...for to shoot too many innocent people...including now, five & six year olds. Feel properly ashamed!
Piers is Another arrogant Brit. We kicked them out once, maybe time to do it again?
For hunting or for target shooting and five is plenty, any more than that is unnecessary and dangerous. I can't believe in America people can legally own these huge capacity magazines, it's unnecessary it is obviously very dangerous in the wrong hands and there is absolutely no need for it.
There's enough graves already filled with gun victims in US, NRA types, stop saying your solution is to fill "many more"... because that's what you're saying & that's what you'll end up doing!
Piers, you came down a little too harsh on Larry Pratt tonight. While I totally support your side of argument, I find it imprudent and unprofessional to speak to a guest the way you did. Pratt's argument was severely flawed. You could've easily challenged it if you had been better prepared. Instead, you got carried away by your anger and started attacking Pratt personally. That didn't make you or your argument look good at all.
He is right to be angry; when Pratt still wants to do nothing & wring his hands of the responsibility that he & his friends the NRA ilk...share with still promoting automatic guns for profit!
N = No
R = Responsibility
A = Apparently
I think it was sadistic, creepy, and disrespectful for Mr. Pratt laughing and trivializing this tragedy. Piers Morgan was right to call him on it. Pratt deserved it.
Piers Morgan is so rude! He invites guests on his show and then doesn't have the decency to allow them to answer questions he has posed. Then , when they do start to answer, he talks over them–must be afraid that some of their comments may ring true. I'm so tired of hearing about Great Britain. If it's so great there–please–GO BACK! I miss Larry King.
Thank you for airing the interview with the last tard. This shows what kind of idiots are gun caring and dangerous group that need to be stopped! Thanks again Piers?
yes and the use of the word "tard" just shows how intelliigent and worldly you must be to use a term like that.
Rob G any one that advocates to have more guns in schools and daycare is a tard. Small world paranoia is someone who is scared of sounds and shadows in the night and someone is comming to get them. It's a great world out here, come join us and let the children play.
and how do you suggest you stop them?
Right to own guns. OK.
Not allowed to own guns. Not right!
Kids getting killed at a scholl. WRONG!
Piers – I formerly believed that you were an accomplished journalist. However, after viewing your interviews the last 2 evenings I believe the opposite is true. You've resorted to personal insults when the argument isn't going your way. Frankly, you looked "stupid" as you called your opponent "stupid". Quality journalists don't engage in this type of bahavior.
You need to take a step back and realize that there are two sides to this argument, as many have done.
I've never more uncomfortable watching your show...
Eric, where's you sense of moral outrage here? Piers Morgan is expressing total outrage, befuddlement and sense of lunacy from a gun wacko nut laughing, trivializing and disrespecting the dead. Piers was right to call him on it. Anyone, like Pratt, trivializing and laughing about a serious issue should be called an INCREDIBLY STUPID man. It's about time that people should be called on it. Way to go Piers!
Pratt was not laughing at the tragedy of Sandy Hook. He was laffing at the stupidity of Penis Morgan and Penis' not allowing him to finish answering his question.
I agree with Pierce. I grew up in an era where it was safe to walk to school, shopping malls, anywhere. Sure you heard of crimes but NEVER EVER of this nature or magnitude. What the hell went wrong with all of us? Is this where we are at now...where it's not safe for children to be in school. Then on the other hand, you have every psychiatrist coming out of the woodwork. Is it really about mental health and if so, what is going on that so many have mental health problems? This is what we all need to ask and address. Then we have the issue of the assault weapon that people are arguing back and forth about. They are HIDING BEHIND the second amendment. Doe they really know what the second amendment really says? Have they read all of it? Do they even know what year it was written and for what? What it does not state is that people have the right to bear military assault weapons to mass murder people. These are uneducated people who probably want a name for themselves. So now you have everyone saying stronger gun control, for who? The gangs, the criminals, the law abiding citizen? What is next...our children carrying guns on the way to school? We have gone too far and this is shameful. Twenty 6 year old children????? Really? How far will we let this go? We all sit back and complain when we don't like what our gov't does and says....we all have opinions but yet we don't come together all of us across the country and do something. Something has gone wrong in America.
you think its bad now.Its gonna get a hell of a lot worse and not from American gun owners :o))
Sorry, 2more things. The gun lobby would like to make this debate about mental illness. I'm not sure of the stats, but I'm guessing less than100 dead in mass murders done by"crazy" people each year in the U.S. that means about 9900 by regular people, including accidents. 2 the 2nd amendment is so misinterpreted it's crazy. If you want to stop guns boycott the companies involved in manufacturing them. The one thing more powerful than the NRA is $
How come the families of victims of assault weapons haven't sued the pants off the NRA?
Great idea.
uh............2nd amendment ring a bell???????????????????
Piers, I am very disappointed in your approach to your guest who disagree with you. I've watched you constantly interrupt them before they finish a point that you initiated. Tonite, you called one or your guest "stupid and an idiot" and some other words that when one is at work they would not be considered professional. You lost the "high level" debate by the way you treated your guest. I'm really disappointed that I will have to go without information from a source I considered to be a professional and I will not be watching your show again. I wish you the best, sir.
Mark. Any person like Pratt even suggesting that teachers carry weapons to school using that to "skirt" the issue of semi-automatics, deserves to be treated with derision because what Pratt said was the MOST STUPIDEST and idiotic statement I've ever heard. It defies total logic and sense here. Pratt deserved to be called incredibly stupid because he sounds like an a****hole!
mr ococoob would you pleace read what i have posted under your writings and get back with me on some of what i said ok instead of running your mouth think before you up hold gun control ok
Hold on there now Ococ Pardner. Banning those weapons from law abiding citizens will not stop the crims and crazies from going into pre schools and repeating this kind of evil. There are already schools with armed protection in some states.No problem there. Crims are a whole lot cleverer than you seem to be.They keep away from people with guns. Simple. They rob kill murder steal and mass murder the DEFENCELESS. Simple...
Mr. Piers, I would remind you that the people most directly affected by this latest atrocity have asked for civil discourse regarding gun control. While I agree with your views, I feel your rudeness does not help the cause.
Piers, dammit, you totally mishandled the Larry Pratt interview.....you got down in the gutter, you let him make it sound reasonable, and where you should and could have taken him apart with his Korean merchants nonsense on semi automatic weapons, you settled for name calling......I hope this was just an off day for you...like the President's first debate......so take a lesson from him and prepare yourself for the next one....
A fan
Jack M. I thought Piers was right. If it takes to "get in one's face" to wake people like Pratt up, then so be it. How many more do we have to go through this? Where are people's sense of decency here? 20 children, damn 20 6 & 7 yrs old shot more that 3 x and the teachers too.
If Piers had to get down and dirty to make people wake up and realize the lunacy of this tragedy, then so be it. How else can people like him get his point across and make people SEE the lunacy!??
Mr. Morgan and CNN,
Perhaps it's time to place the brakes on Mr. Pierce Olbermann Morgan and his show. Since the school shooting it has become quite obvious Mr. Morgan wants to be remembered as the individual carrying the flag for gun control (self-fulfilling). This family and extended members have been pleased with Mr. Morgan's show and CNN in general, but after the last two evenings interviews (or lack thereof) we are unsure. Mr. Morgan's position may differ from his guest, however that doesn't make him a "stupid man" nor one that supports shootings like Mr. Morgan suggests. We are incredibly dissappointed with Mr. Morgan who has previously demonstrated intelligence and good will. I think we are done with this type of "entertainment" versus real news. Perhaps some experience about the topic he discusses might lend some credence to his thoughts.
Good on him, I hope he succeeds to bring that day closer; of course, with the help of President Obama & take the guns out of society. The security forces & the military have enough guns between, & have to pick up all the pieces after these shootings & they all know how dangerous they are. Ordinary Joe Soaps buy them mostly for themselves or others to go daft with, & then want to avoid talking about the consequences when massacres happen, because of same held guns. The Jingoism is "Laughable"!
Many of you Americans are so stupid with your guns and your 2nd Amendment. With the invention of futuristic smart weapons which do resemble guns, your 2nd Amendment is useless.
Hey no name! You speak like a true anti American! Wouldn't it figure?
No Name
All great world powers thruout history tho destroyed from within were finally "taken out" by there less advanced/armed/militarily inferior enemies. The Afghans, Viet Cong etcetc sent greater super powers packing.
Piers you are a buffoon. Oxtcontin is doled out like candy in north america and you rant on inanimate objects. Throw a 30k/yr pot dealer in jail for 20 years but companies can addict millions of people and make billions. And you wonder why people are f**cked up.
but companies can addict millions of people and make billions.
I guess Cory, you must be talking about "Guns & Addiction" & how the manufacturers make millions/billions because of these "Death (Inanimate) Objects". Of course when people are killed because of them, they lose their Inanimate tag.
As for "Pain Killers" that's another debate...for another time. This one is about Guns & their deadly/deathly "Abuses"!
This one is about Guns & their deadly/deathly "Abuses"!...
yes abuse by clowns doped up on Psych drugs :o) manufactured by Big Pharma lobbiest etc
Why on earth would the mother of a known mentally ill young man tell her babysitter never ever turn your back on my son, not even to go to the bathroom, but then take him to a shooting range and leave unlocked guns in the house??? Was she mentally ill?
There needs to be more and better accessible mental health care to parents.
We armed pilots after 911, but didn't ban box cutters.
If the ban of guns would be the answer, then we should ban heroin too. Oh yea we did...hmm.
The doors at my daughters school are locked, but they are all glass. I do want the massive glass doors at my daughters school replaced with solid doors.
I wouldn't be upset if an officer was at her school door too.
In reference to your interview with Mr. Gun Nutty, did I hear him correctly when in the heat of the argument he mentioned evil. That it is more important for citizens to arm themselves in order to defend against and defeat this "evil" as opposed to understanding and dealing with pyschological issues in these incidents. What is the this generic "evil" he is talking about?
On another note, perhaps the NRA / gun lobby needs to update their slogan to, " Guns don't kill people. People kill people. And we're here to arm them!"
I'm am shocked that you called your guest an idiot because he said we need to arm the teachers. You also called everyone else who recently purchased guns which caused gun sales to go up an idiot. You are the idiot in my book. Think!! If government limits the rights of honest hard working Americans to bare arms even assault rifles, this is not going to stop the guns from getting into the hands of the deranged individuals of our society. Maybe, you need to open your eyes. Do you really think if assault rifles are banned that this will keep them out of the hands of the deranged or criminals of our society? I say no, it will just keep them out of the hands of the good, honest Americans trying to protect his or herself!!! We do seriously got a problem here, but I don't thing limiting guns to the honest citizens of the United States is the answer.
Agreed. Drunk drivers kill thousands each year: take cars away. Pencils are responsible for all mis-spelled words; make them illegal. Take away the ability to defend myself; there are not enough law enforcement now let alone an American society without firearms. Guns don't go off alone, cars don't drive themselves, pencils don't mis-spell words. Passing more gun laws makes us feel good, we did something...........that is.......till the time comes when we are victimized.
You both fail to LISTEN carefully what Piers was saying. He was NOT saying all law-abiding, gun carrying citizens are stupid. He gets it about the 2nd Amendment here and so do I. What he and I want to know from this man is WHY is there a need to make it legal to purchase, stock, and carry around weapons identified as assault weapons with clips and magazines here. Now, get you head out of your *** here and listen CAREFULLY to what he is saying, ok? NOT what you want to hear.
Piers, why are so afraid to address the real issue here? The mother knew her son was unstable at best...yet decided that 6 guns in the house, as well as taking him to the shooting range to teach him how to use them, was the right thing to do? I have not heard one mention of that from you. All I hear is "Ban Guns!! Guns are evil!!" You are nothing more than a typical CNN Communist who thinks they know whats best for everyone. As awful and heartbreaking as this tragedy is, the mothers bad choices contributed greatly to this
Piers
We need you to keep this conversation alive many months and even years after this horric event. Media is key to setting the agenda in America. There is NO NEED for Automatic Wepons and we need your stong public voice to keep this in forefront until we get the law changed .... AND WE WILL.
Thanks for your candid, vocal and passionate voice of reason since there is NO REASON the NRA can make to justify automatic wepons.
Automatic weapon – Do you really know what that is? Do you know what you are referencing? Have you ever shot an automatic weapon? Education partner.....
Hey Piers,
Quick, somebody needs you to sign something in Munich. It will solve everything!
LOL Good one ...
I am sick to my stomach over Mr. Pratts prehistoric comments and his blatant disconnect from the world we live in today!!!! Mr. Morgan please continue to break down the walls of ignorance!
I completely agree ! Keep pushing the topic, Piers! Now is the time for action & change in the U.S. – no more excuses!!
Piers, you should get a show with Hannety. You wouldn't have to pay for guests since neither of you allow anyone to talk.
Larry was brilliant on the obnoxious Brit's show tonight. I joined the NRA at age 63 last Friday night because I saw this anti-gun movement coming. I just wanted to voice my support and offer this angle.
A couple days ago I was speaking to an airline pilot friend about him carrying a firearm. To my surprise, pilots are not required to carry a weapon (as I mistakenly thought the result of 9/11 was), but they are 'allowed' to carry a concealed weapon.
This is the direction I think we need to go. Lift the ban on concealed weapons everywhere. This plants the seed of doubt that would likely stop most of these evil mass murderers. Just the thought that in a mall, movie theater, school, church etc. there MIGHT be someone who can shoot back would act as a deterrent.
I agree!!
How does the threat of potentially being shot deter these acts when they are willing to shoot themselves after they commit them ?!
Because they know there is no initial resistance, they get their unabated '15 minutes of fame'. If they knew someone might blow them away before they even get started, they might think twice. All of them know they will eventually commit suicide, but if they know their deaths might be in vain, they would puss out. Pratt was dead on. Where there is even the hint of gun presence, the cowards do not tread.
Before you start talking Piers know the definition regarding MENTAL ILLNESS, AUTISM AND ASPERGERS THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT EVEN THOUGH ITS ALL UNDER MENTAL. PEOPLE ARE ALL DIFFERENT COLORS BUT YET WHERE ALL PEOPLE. I am truly upset my son has autism who would have been a victim without a doubt not because I want to believe it but because I know it. My heart truly goes out to the children and parents of NEWTOWN. Now I have to worry how the world will perceive my autistic son. Stop throwing out his autism with the name of a KILLER I am not here to judge that young man and I don't know what demons drove him to do that but thats not me to decide thats the man upstairs. My son didn't choose autism autism chose him and all these kids who are under that umbrella again not MENTAL ILLNESS.
Anna Autism isn't as you probably know usually a case like this at all very rare and to top it all off he has more than that, so what I would tell you and your son is when he grows up to never use that as a crutch or excuse. I'm not saying you will.. All I am saying if he uses that for his strength/power oh man will he go far Anna. I got misdiagnosed when I was in 9th grade.. In and out of hospitals for a year and a half until finally a savior of a Dr. said Dylan you don't have that you actually have Bipolar. so that was a huge relief. anyway ever since I was little my dream was always to go into the military either Marines or Air Force well 9th grade kinda crushed my dreams. But from day 1 I made a promise to myself side from the military that what ever I want to do with my life by gosh I will do that and succeed with out fail. So please Anna don't be mad or angry what ignorant people like Morgan for they don't know the struggles we go thru strictly because we are good ad covering them up. Know that your son will have a very bright future and tell him to use it as a strength and not a crutch. If you have any questions Anna please feel free to ask! 🙂
Ohhh and Bipolar has almost always linked to most killers even tho thats just an excuse to not give them the death penalty I don't let it bother me one bit due to the fact thats not the truth and who cares what other people thinks of me? as long as I can help someone I'm happy!
Like I said get a hold of me if you have any questions!
🙂
-Dylan
Piers: This issue has reached a point where the language you
used tonight was appropriate. If you used stronger words I'd approve.
Australia and England are a model for gun laws in America.
Amen to that! I agree. I'm an American and I'm ashamed at the lunacy of it all here.
BS....Pal
Violent crime has surged potentially since the gun ban confiscation in Australia nd Britain.London is the murder capital of Europe. Do some research mate and wake yourself up.
Piers the point you are missing regarding the 2nd amendment is that many see that as the main barrier to the government taking away their freedoms. They live in fear of their own govt and it has little to do with self defense. It plays right into the right wing narrative of being opposed to Washington and states rights vs federalism. If the govt has big guns then citizens need them too otherwise they won't feel they can be really free. It is the politics of fear and the survivalist notion of being able to fight off the hoards when society collapses.
Knowing I will be flagged immediately,(THOSE OF YOU WHO SEND CONTRARY E-MAILS HAVE TO REALIZE THIS)I still have to question this fellow's right to comment on our system.He comes from a frame of reference where intrusion on personal freedoms is normal,and while it may have curtailed gun violence(although,what happened at that school in Scotland a few years ago?),knife violence leads the world.The first time someone shoots back during one of these situations, this form of evil will end.The running theme in these cruel,self indulgent,criminals and their blind families is cowardice.On every level.And to not acknowledge the evil that is persistent,and has been for ages,is dangerously naive on the part of the public and the families of the obviously disturbed.As is the clinging hope that banning weapons will stop evil.The true hand wringing should be how did we,as a whole,create this situation.Where did we open the door to this Pandora's box?
Timothy. Nobody, including, Pier Morgan are advocating getting rid of guns. Just want the answer to why semi-automatics should remain legal and free to purchase? We get that. Nobody's advocating of abolishing the 2nd amendment right to bear arms, although, I believe it's being twisted and turned to benefit one group's agenda. I find it appalling that most on this thread seem to "skirt" the question of semi-automatics and refuse to see or totally deny that there's no need for them to be sold on the streets legally.
thats exactly what they want to do.Get rid of all the guns and the 2A. Startn with these semi autos. Citizens need these weapons to guard against tyranny. Simple. Ask Ms Feinstein. ALL GUNS from mr n mrs america. Her own words...
BTW...more/most ( 99.7% ) of gun deaths are caused thru the use of Handguns. Trust me.They want ALL GUNS and if you dont know why, then ya need to find out "Why"
Crown Prince Dipendra of Nepal murdered almost the entire royal family with an automatic firearm in 2001. I assume the royal family was protected by royal guards that were armed and trained. That did not stop the massacre even though the crown prince was drunk. What makes people think that more guns among civilians is the solution to gun violence? Did people grow up on bull crap?!
Thank you Piers for speaking common sense, loud and clear. I was cheering you on tonight !!!
Piers, you need to respect your guests whatever their views are.
I agree. We all are adults and should respect all positions on any issue.
You go Piers! You are saying and feeling what we all feel. Outrage and sadness and grief that there are people out there that think more guns will solve problems.
the best Offence is the best Defence...
Pierce Morgan, how easily you forget why the American People have been enshrined with the rights which even you while living in the U.S.A get to enjoy. Let me refresh your memory. Over 200 years ago many of your former citizens
Left your country because they were tired of been persecuted. Once in this country your King felt he could still control us.
Many people died defending those rights and many even now will not hesitate to defend them now. What makes you think that once you step or try to change the 2nd amendment that will be the end, why not go ahead and change a few more of the amendments we dont like. Had the new American citizens had not stood up, we would all speak screwed up English and have
bad teeth. We the American are resilient and value those God given rights. It's easy for the President and those rich politicians who call for more gun control to say that stricter gun control is the answer. Let them give up all that tax payer funded top notch security and will see how long their song last. The main culprit in most mass murders have been people with mental issues, and unless this is address nothing will matter. Look up the Bath, Michigan massacre no guns involved but a crazy indiviual whose sole purpose was to kill innocent people. Like Charles Hesston so elegantly stated "You want my gun, over my dead body". Like the Toby Keith song says "Sleep well tonight, knowing American soldiers will keep you safe tonight".
Amen my brother!!
Amen to that as well.
Well said brother... keep your guns and America safe for those who value Freedom .
It is too bad Piers let Pratt get to him, and called him an idiot. Even if Pratt is an idiot, Piers should have tried to remain civilized in his conduct of the interview.
while this shooting is a tragedy, I am concerned that the fiscal cliff problem is now being overshadowed by this latest event, and that many more people will be affected in the near term.
For those who use the excuse, "I need my guns to protect my family, " I have a question for you. Do you drive a giant Hummer or a big wheel truck when your family is with you. Or does your wife have these types of autos? Well, there are thousands of people who die in auto accidents. Many more people die in auto accidents than attacked in their home by an intruder. You are only as strong as your weakest link. Why only protect your family with a gun and not with the strongest, biggest bad ass car they make? I feel that the gun is only an extension of a man's penis.
Really? Arm yourself s with a truck, I don't know where you live, and I don't know where your getting your facts? But your wrong on that note, there are home invasions everywhere here where I live! You can arm yourself with a truck, if you want, but I will just stick with my guns!
I didn't say "arm yourself with a truck" my point is if you feel you need to protect your family from ANY SORT OF HARM then you should also be putting them in a huge truck or fortified automobile because your family has a greater chance to be injured or killed in a traffic accident than having an intruder come into your home.
so ban cars too...they kill many more children...
YOU GO PIERS! I LOVE YOU!!!
WE DO NOT NEED ARMY GUNS ANYWHERE... I have a 6 year old and if I hear teachers are keeping guns in classrooms, I'm home schooling. I don't even trust them fully in the education they provide in this country let alone with guns!
I am writing to my senators, superintendent of the school systems, anyone who would listen. That Larry Pratt IS an idiot..
I cannot believe the ignorance and immaturity you show in this discussion. Don't act like a child that is tuning out someone else with a different viewpoint. Listen! Listen to the argument and challenge yourself to consider a different viewpoint. The tragedy was a result of children and adults who were "DEFENSELESS" against a madman! Taking defense out of the hands of the responsible majority leaves them vulnerable to criminals who are going to find a way to get a weapon, firearm or not, to play out their unimaginable demented initiatives. This has nothing to do with responsible people having guns. There should be stricter policies on acquiring firearms, along with training and licensing, but taking them away completely is not the answer. And I have to say something about your comment that a politician should ignore what the majority wants in order to step up and be led by some moral calling. I'm sorry, but we are not led by dictators who think their sole ideas are the best. Our country was founded on democracy, which means representing the majority, not ignoring them when they don't agree with you. United States leaders should not impose their beliefs on the people, but rather gain knowledge from what the majority of the people want, and represent that.
You tell him. I agree. Our Freedom did not come free, but we will continue to protect it for an eternity. GO MY FELLOW AMERICANS!!
I've read a lot of comments about how people are disappointed in Piers because he disrespected his guest...maybe it's time to be uncivil, to get down and dirty, there is certainly nothing civil about 26 dead innocents.
Piers is extremely obnoxious. Why have a man on his show for an "interview" only to insult, degrade, and over talk his guest. This was a botched interview!
Mr Morgan – I applaud you for going after the gun totting people in this country. How many of thegun supporters that you have talked with or get comments from have a child that is 6 0r 7 years of age or grandchildren that age and do they remember how much those kids weigh and what their body types are like? How many of the dead dear childen were struck by one or more bullets – to the point that they could not even be recognized – these people are idiots. An assult rifle has no place in a home – a shotgun for hunting maybe – but there is no good coming out of an assult rifle being in a home -where whn not taken proper care of can get into the wrong hands.
All of these murders we discuss – they're not one on one – they are 10/20/30 or more – all of these sick people are out to hurt or kill as many people as they can so their name will live on in history. I am for assult rifles being taken any and make a federal offense to have on in your possession.
And oh by the way – I have lived all but two years of my life in America – but for 2 years I did live in the Midlands of England on a international job assignment and my son was born there and its where my wife and I have felt the safest.
then why dont you go back?
Surely the safety of you n your family warrants such a move.
I daresay 100s of thousands of Law abiding citizens in the US. feel very safe with their 2A Right.
How many of the gun supporters that you have talked with or get comments from have a child that is 6 0r 7 years of age...
100's of thousands of them and they all went out and bought more guns after this incident.And if they didnt own a gun?Well they do now.Why??? Think about it. Let me know if ya need me to answer that question for you. Okay???? Ill be only too happy to oblige.
Ban guns and only crims (besides the obvious) will have guns.
BTW. The Gov Police or the Military are not here to protect you or your family.
I'm Sticking my Neck out here – and will get Lots of FLACK......but I ask EVERY SINGLE DOCTOR....Nancy Grace, Pierce Morgan -- to EXPLORE........how many of these GUNMAN – in all these SHOOTINGS........have NOT been VACCINATED!! I've done my RESEARCH.......I KNOW the TOXIC EFFECTS to the BRAIN from these Ingredients..and I would SERIOUSLY like to see just ONE of these people EXPLORE this SIDE. It's not Politically CORRECT – I know. PLEASE do it – and I encourage EVERY PARENT to do the same. It doesn't take a ROCKET SCIENTIST to FIGURE this out. LOOK AT THE TIME LINE when MULTIPLE VACCINES were injecting into these little bodies – and NO, not EVERY CHILD is affected the same – in years. My Pediatritian warned me back in 1976 – and I am GRATEFUL every day....that he did so. Mental Illness is Inherited – but Poisons that get to the Brain – as in Vaccines ---manifest symptoms often much sooner. God BLESS all in CONN. and around the world
Piers thinks the President is concerned about assault rifles. Was the Obama administration concerned when they gave .50 rifles to drug cartels? How about a law banning that?
You're an idiot. It was found later that there was no proof of wrong-doing and Obama and Eric Holder were vindicated. Pay attention to your current events, will ya?
you are misinformed ococo.
Pls provide your source for yur info.
After hearing Piers Morgan rant like a deranged and unstable psychopath I felt that being well armed was a good thing. He is ground zero for the reason we have the 2nd Amendment. I bet his closet is full of hand guns, video games and his mummified mother.
you tell like it is!!!
I agree. Piers is unstable and has clearly gone off the deep end. It might be wise to start his deportation papers right away.
Are you listening, new CNN management?
He is so worked up and insane, he doesn't even let his hand picked supporting guests speak. He is a dangerous "man" and actually frightening. WOW.
YES!!!
True words.
I know which of the 2 in this interview I would trust to own a gun.The one who remained calm collected and rational.Oh geee wiizzzzz, which one would that be. Pratt? or Penis?... Penis or Pratt. A very difficult question for the gun control crowd obviously. Didnt Penis once say on Britains Got Talent that he would ..."machine gun" some of the contestants? Nice guy. We know where his heart is...
Penis Morgan is obviously one who should not be permitted to own a gun...
Mr. Morgan – Thank YOU from the bottom of my heart for NOT backing down to that COMPLETE IDIOT (pratt) – I would seriously like to know if it was one of his family members at Sandy Hook, if his views would be the same?? GUNS DO NOT BELONG ON OUR STREETS much less is the hands of civilians (whether with mental isues or not)
Our society has crossed the threshold and has NO REGARD for human LIFE !! I think its time for parents / grandparents / caregivers of every dinomination to stand up and say ENOUGH !! It's time we TAKE BACK our children from this dangerous society we've become and RETEACH some MORALS. I am a mother of three young men and I have always voiced that GUNS are WRONG.- they belong in the hands of our Military.I think its time that these violent games be pulled from the shelves and no longer manufactured. Not saying that ths is the SOLE issue but it is a contributing factor !!!
I enjoy your show immensely !! Keep up the GREAT WORK and again THANK YOU !!!
CHEERS !!
Thank you so very much for your commitment and advocacy to end gun violence in the USA. You have my support and admiration. Your NRA guests make my blood boil! Please keep up your hard work and dialogue...thank you!
Piers,
You are my new hero. As a retired school teacher and principal, your courage and ability to present the reality of such a lack of gun control in this country is unconscionable. The more you interview the idiots of the gun world, the more they validate how ridiculous and disturbing their beliefs are in this most difficult time in our history. I applaud your courage! Don't give up. Please don't let this be a blip on the screen. You have the power to make a difference.
With so much respect,
Jan Keating
Even more scary than Piers Morgan was Dershowtiz. Here's a guy who would represent the Sandy Hook murderer and get him released on a technicality..... For a few bucks.
Hell, if I ever needed a damn good lawyer, I'd hire Dershowitz in a minute! 'Cuz he's that damn good!
I was one of the people who is in the statistics of high gun sales this weekend. I sold my gun to a dealer. We should not assue that the high sales means that all people are arming themselves. I have a dear friend who is a life long member of the NRA only because many years ago he purchased a lifetime member ship. He no longer belives in what they stand for.. He receives their publications and likes the fact that they have to use their big bank account to publish and mail their propaganda only to be ignored. I hope they go broke. By the way I am a teacher in a rural area. I also taught in the "city" in an urban school. No shootings shootings there; so Mr. Pratt go figure.. and did you know that Sandy Hook is not a "City"? Keep up the great work Piers.
The second amendment referred to bayonets and muskets. NRA – arm yourselves with muskets – fill your boots. The second amendment does not list assault rifles and the like. Nor does it allow for surface to air missiles,,,, but give you guys time and you'll be lobbying for citizens to carry such weapons. Concealed of course.....
...seems you only have half a brain and cannot think for yourself.
I dont think they were trying to say that young children should be running around with assault rifles. Thats just not smart.. but then again looking at some of these comments on this board no wonder you listen to this guy...haha. To all you idiots out there who think guns should be banned just remember that criminals, criminals dont follow laws. Mentally unstable people, they dont follow laws either. So when you get held at gunpoint when you are trying to go to the mall or get car jacked at gun point in your quiet community just remember that you could have had a gun.
You tell them Kevin!!
You must definitely be joking here!!! Becasue this makes no sense at all. So if a guy pulls a gun on you to rob you, you will pull out your gun to shoot him too right? Who's to say you'll still survive? By the time you get your gun out, that guy would have shot you anyway. Wouldnt you rather just hand him your wallet and thank God you are still alive to debate whether guns have any relevance in a civilised society???
Kevin, let's talk probability and statistics here. Can you honestly enlighten all of us as what is the probability that a unarmed citizen would be confronted by an armed criminal here? 1 in 5? 1 in 10? 1 in 100? 1 in 1000? 1 in 10000? 1 in 100000? C'mon I want to hear your statistics here. Also, list your source while you're at it, ok? No soundbites here. And PLEASE no NRA sources either!
Finally you want to talk statistics!
Murder rate Detriot Michigan 2010= 364; 2011=308 souls lost
Murder rate Windsor Ontario 2010& 2011= two years straight = ZERO
Less than a mile wide Detriot river separates these twin cities. What's the difference? Canada has reasonable gun control laws.
Where would you rather raise young children, Canada or the USA?
That "American Dream" is a myth & a horrible nightmare for the majority.
YEP...every last one of theses anti gunners would wish they had a gun the day they come face to face with the barrel of a gun. Guaranteed.Especially if there children 5 or 6 yrs old are being threatened with death by gunshot.Oh waite.Obamas group of clowns rekn all ya gotta do is run hide or use a scissors. The gov does not care about your safety or the safety of your children.
Piers,
You are also my hero! I am an elementary school teacher and I am crushed by this tradegy as all of us in America should be. Why do we have such ignorance in our country? We have not educated our nation to a respectable level that reason and logic prevail over fear. The true evil we have is this ignorance that drives that fear. I applaud you for trying to educate and hope this will make a difference. We need change in gun laws now! No more innocent lives lost!
There is an abundance of evidence to support this position and thank you for providing this in forthright way on your show. We need God in this country not Guns!
I bet if the IRA and Northern Ireland didn't have guns they would still be oppressed by clinically deranged people like the Brits and Piers Morgan.
Loki, even the IRA and N. Ireland have the SMALLEST, even 0 death tolls from their guns compared to 12,000. of ours here in the U.S.of A. Now who's the deranged people making stupid comment such as yours?
Re: Northern Ireland & the IRA:
Peace came to the UK & Ireland after 9/11. I apologise to all those who sufferd, but the truth is that the "clinically deranged" Americans who persited, for decades, in sending money to the IRA finally got a taste of what living with terrosim is like.
God rest the souls of all victims of violence
.... No doubt restrictions should be increased regarding certain weapons and the topic of gun control should be debated. The real problem here is how we leave our children vulnerable without protection, whether you are talking about an armed police officer or better security enabled schools....
If you attempt to remove all weapons from law abiding citizens then only criminals will have them and they WILL be brazen about the crimes committed... My uncle is a police man in Britain and he could not disagree with you more piers... He is at a disadvantage everyday because not all of the force carries a weapon. Limited because of gun laws and the people suffer from a greater number of violent crimes, robberies and break ins per capita.... piers stop pandering to weak minded people that follow you like a sheep, believe the embellished facts and lies you spread every evening. You are almost as obnoxious as O'rielly
Dont you think the numbers of guns owned by criminals would be alot less than those owned by a whole country of law abiding citizens? Isnt it easier to manage, track and control a smaller number of firearms? And when have criminals ever gone into schools to shoot students and teachers?
Keep giving them hell, Piers. People need to hear it!
If you are a journalist, look into the when requirement passed in Washington DC that gun owners had to register their firearms and after about 30 days it was passed that pistols were illegal and that they had to be turned in to the police. Convenient, law abiding citizens registered their guns only to be informed that they would have to turn them in to the police. Do you think the criminals registered their firearms? When did Governor Paris Glendening hold a press conference to display the assault rifles taken off of the streets in Maryland? All the rifles on the table were marked MSP and belonged to the Maryland State Police. It was staged. They were not from the street. Piers have you attempted to purchase an assault rifle legally? Find out exactly how it is handled. How about the fast and furious deal that allowed guns to be purchased by a straw man purchase and when dealers called the ATF the culprits were allowed to walk. How about the judicial case in Washington DC where two women were victimized and decision stated that the police did not have to protect the citizens. If you are truly a journalist then research these incidents and maybe you might understand the belief that many have on the second amendment.
It seems following a tragic event there is a high demand to make a new law to stop or prevent. Yet in all this debate I have yet to hear a law that would prevent this particular event from happening. I have even heard our President say that he does not have the solution but something needs to be done. There is not one person who advocates this violence, even if someone is pro gun. We keep passing laws to protect us from life while giving up our civil liberties. If no laws are passed it does not mean that we don't care about those children's lives, that is absurd. Sometimes life is cruel, let's not make laws based on emotion but common sense that the laws we make have a purpose and more important an effect.
Great job, Piers. You spoke for me and it's OK to treat an idiot like an idiot. Being "rude/unprofessional/passionate" is just fine with me. Pratt didn't deserve to be there and he didn't deserve to talk on, uninterrupted. Arming teachers? What insanity.
amen!!!!!
what about armed police at schools? Would that be insanity? Or just something the elite's children should be privy to...???
I agree one hundred percent!!
Piers, you are an embarrasment to CNN and to yourself. There are so many more better qualified people to do the job than you and I am amazed that CNN allows someone like you to take the airwaves in their name.
Thank goodness for alternative channels and may the ratings of CNN plummet until rude idiots like you are sent packing!!!
Piers, you are a stupid little man and you should run back to Merry old England if you continue to wonder why we don't want any part of another government like England. Spew your English rubbish somewhere else, your an embarrassment to the journalism profession. Calling everyone stupid if they don't agree with your Marxist views.
You are a very rude, stupid little man and your unable to seriously interview anyone without interjecting your own politics and beliefs as the supreme. Such low brow performances as this are probably well within your league.
Piers thank you for showing how small minded a lot of the gun lobby are. You are tuely showing and empowering the quiet majority of our society. Thank you.
Pratt's a stupid little man avoiding or "skirting" the question why the need for semi-automatics by changing it around saying why the teachers don't carry weapons in the schools. You're stupid yourself for overlooking this asinine excuse.
Piers was right to show anger as I am for we're waiting for a PLAUSIBLE reason WHY semi-automatics with clips, mags., etc. are legally available.
to fight tyrany Coco...to fight tyrany.Lets hope that never happens but thats why we have the 2A. Its a precaution. Hitler Mao Pol Pot Chavez etcetc all took the guns... I hope your not naive enuf to think this cannot happen in America. Facism is already here bud.Wake up.
People are missing the real issue here. Ask yourselves...why is it that you feel you need a gun?...why do you feel you need to defend yourself? Perhaps your country needs to address the criminal element. Larry Pratt...arm teachers? Have you lost your mind?
if its gonna save children? Why Not???
Ban guns and only the crims have the weapons and theyll be even more advantaged and be able to commit even more carnage among the defenceless. THINK.
I am not an American. But when I see this whole situation from the outside, it seems painfully obvious to me that when a country says its OK for its citizens to be carrying assault weapons (the name justifies their purpose) then it is OK for them to be using them too at their free will! That is simply an obvious result of such a situation. Guns are meant to be fired to KILL, not to be used as showpieces in your house!! And an assault weapon is made to be used for ASSAULT. Anyone saying that Guns protect you from killings, is deluding themselves of reality. I for one feel lucky to be living in a society where everyone is not free to own a gun. My heart goes out to all those families who have lost their loved ones to gun violence for no fault of their own.
Piers, Thank you for always bringing forth important issues with tangential journalistic views. Dr. Wellner is a reservoir of information regarding the criminal psyche. His long standing fascinating background with the criminal justice system involving murderers and mentally ill subjects has not yet been fully explored on television, particularly on the Sandy Hook tragedy. Given more time on tonight’s show, Dr. Wellner would have enlightened the nation in ways Dr. Oz could never respectfully accomplish. Consideration should be made for a future in depth interview with Dr. Wellner. It appeared he had more to say...I would venture very important issues not yet discussed in the media
As I have stated before, my deepest heartfelt thoughts and prayers are with the families, the faculty, the law enforcement officials, the fire department, emsa, the volunteers, the community and the forensic staff.
This is still the time of mourning and healing.
This is not the time to talk about guns.
i would like to offer the nation help with understanding how ptsd works in people and how society can push us to our snapping point. mental disorders and illnesses need to be a priority to our healthcare providers and our younger generations.
Any one that advocates to have more guns in schools and daycare is a tard. Small world paranoia is someone who is scared of sounds and shadows in the night and someone is comming to get them. It's a great world out here, come join us and let the children play.
WHY DIDN'T MRS. LANZA KEEP HER GUNS IN A LOCKED CABINET? THINK SHE OWNED 5 GUNS..HE TOOK 3 OF THEM...
That's just silly. American parents need to keep loaded guns by their beds & in easy reach in every room of the house. NOT in a gun safe separate from the amo. What criminal is going to break into your home & wait 10 min for you to unlock your gun safe & load your machine gun? The fact that your kids will inevitably get shot by accident, anger or suicide is just 'collateral damage'- who cares as long as your paranoia is calmed by surruonding yourself with loaded machine guns?
Gun Control's Twisted Outcome
Restricting firearms has helped make England more crime ridden than the U.S.
http://voices.yahoo.com/the uk gun ban 3819560.html?cat=17
The trail blazing UK held the distinction of having the toughest firearm restrictions of any democracy and their 1997 handgun ban became the "gold standard" of gun control.
How has that UK gun ban been working?
In the four years from 1997 to 2001, the rate of violent crime more than doubled.
Your chances of being mugged in London are now six times greater than in New York.
England's rates of assault, robbery, and burglary are far higher than America's.
53 percent of English burglaries occur while occupants are at home, compared with 13 percent in the U.S., where burglars admit to fearing armed homeowners more than the police.
In a [2002] United Nations study of crime in 18 developed nations, England and Wales led the Western world's crime league, with nearly 55 crimes per 100 people. [1]
Gun crime in London is increasing so rapidly that police fear they may not have the resources to cope. In a 2001 BBC report, officers stated there had been a 100% increase in firearms related crime in the capital. [2]
"When Seconds Count, the police are minutes away."
Northern Ireland [home of the IRA] is the only part of the British Isles where significant numbers of civilians are granted permits to carry a concealed handgun for self defense. According to the International Crime Victim Survey released in August '01, Northern Ireland had one of the lowest levels of victimization of any of the 15 industrialized countries studied and England had the highest
With the exception of gun related deaths, 2008 UK crime stats show a significant rise in gun crimes, the biggest since 2004. [6] The overall picture since the UK gun ban clearly shows that gun control is not crime control and only serves to empower the criminal and inhibit the liberty of her people.
A Church of England vicar had this to say, "It seems as if we have slipped into some bizarre parallel universe where the basic rules about the way human beings communicate have been suspended. What can we say or do? We feel so powerless. "We need to ask hard questions about a kind of society that makes possible such a callous disregard of human life." [5]
By adopting a radical gun ban, the UK abandoned the principles of their own 1689 Bill of Rights calling for the citizenry to "have arms for their defense." The abandoning of such principles is not a practice that a Freedom loving nation desiring the safety, pursuit of happiness, liberty, and justice for all should emulate.
Remember folks, it is the law abiding that abides the law. The bad guys will not comply with gun laws and will remain armed. So what is the purpose of any nation stripping her people from the right of self defense?
"No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson
"When Seconds Count, the police are minutes away."
Dude, no sources here?
I am a mother of a middle school asperger kid. I followed the Sandy Hook tragedy in the past couple of days. All the words to describe Adam Lanza can be applied to my son – socially withdrawn/awkward, aloof, loner, limited eye contacts, quite, shy, intelligent, good at math. However, I need to state here – there is a HUGE gap between insanity/violence and all of the above behavior traits. All of the above are COMMON to asperger or high functioning autistic people. However, it doesn't mean they are DANGEROUS. To me, Adam Lanza is just another victim of asperger who has not been treated CORRECTLY. His final day behavior is EVIL, but he is not EVIL, he is just INSANE. His insanity is caused by the long term ISOLATION caused by his mother, who I believe should be responsible for a large portion of this big big tragedy, even though she herself is one of the victims among this tragedy.
To me, the difference between asperger or autistic kids and the regular kids is their special needs that they need to be trained at the social skills. Unlike the regular people who are able to develop the social skills by themselves, asperger people need to be TAUGHT of those. They need to learn these skills through a cognitive way. Their social skills would be improved through repeated practices. However, I read the news about Nancy Lanza, she decided to provide home schooling to her son, maybe she thought she provided a protective environment to him, she actually took out the chances for him to pick up those critical social skills in a group environment. I can not imagine the poor kid who desperately needed a group environment had been placed in a totally isolated big house for 20 years. No wonder he ended up with insanity. We need to understand autistic people have the same needs like the rest of us – they need to love and be loved, they need to have friends and families that they feel they can connect to. Adam Lanza had the needs just like you and me, what he was lacking of are the skills to fulfill these needs. His mother visioned her son is socially abnormal, tried to provide a shelter to him so he won’t get bullied in the outside world, and the total isolation leads to the final insanity and the tragedy.
Maybe I am critical to Mrs. Lanza who had suffered all the years to try to find out a way to help her son. But I have to say, I don’t agree with her approach at all. All the parents with asperger kids need to go through the painful process to watch their kids behave socially awkward in their early lives, but by giving proper training to those kids, they will gradually move into the right direction. When I picked up my son from the after school program, I saw he was standing among the other kids and talking to them – just like the rest of the normal kids. It is a long way for him to get there. I like to assure those parents with kids who have asperger syndrome, your kids will be fine and you will be fine. Just be patient to work things out. And I like the general public to know, there is no association between asperger and insanity. All the kids can grow up well and contribute to this society, as long as we treat them in the way they need. Understanding is far more difficult than just giving other names like EVIL when a tragedy like this happens. Digging out the root cause and providing the support is the only way to avoid another tragedy to happen in the future.
Mandy, I hear you. It's been brought up several times on various media outlets that experts were quick to point out that individuals with Asperger's ARE NOT violent prone and to think and judge this so is absolute gross ignorance. You should NEVER feel one ounce of guilt for this. YOU ARE NOT a Mrs. Lanza and for those to think so should be ashamed of themselves for painting with a broad brush here. I'm truly sorry that this unfortunate incident has made you very sad and very concerned for your child. It's a shame.
This is not an American vs British argument, it's a sane vs.insane argument. The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different outcome. If nothing changes in the law nothing changes in our outcomes, in other words we keep getting shot up by strangers. Does it have to happen to you before you get it?
NO: Its an American City vs Canadian city argument>
StatS: Detriot Michigan 2010, 364 murders – 2011, 308 murders
Windsor Ontario 2010/11 two years straight = ZERO MURDERS
Windsor is less than a mile across the Detroit river from Detroit michigan. Sanity & effective gun control is North of the border. Selfish, ego centric bullies are Sourth of the border.
Yes you are so correct.
Just add a few more laws and restrictions and NOTHING will change. GUARANTEED. As you said...keep doing the same thing over and over again IS Insanity...
Morgan, geeze you are the biggest moran there is. Yea teachers are going to be dropping guns all the time for kids to pick up. Are you a freaken idiot. Teachers having guns is a great idea and that might have saved lives. Someone in china killed a bunch of kids with a stick. Gun dont kill people, crazy people kill people.
No, none of those people or children in China died. If he had a gun, instead of a knife, he would have killed all of them.
To Mr Morgan i think you need to get your fax strat on how fast a assult rilfe that civillans have dose not shoot 40 rounds a secound thay only go as fast as you can pull the trigger. That is why thay call them simi automitic guns.Now the one that the military and the cops and the atf and fbi use are fully automitic thay will shoot 60 round per secound.You are talking about the kids that was killed in sandy hook what about the ones killed at waco by atf the tbi and those kids was tourched by gas builts comming from fully atomitic guns from out side. and know one was ever held acountable for that.If you realy want to know why I think I need my assult rifle have me on your show ill tell you.
to all you people go and ask the chinas people that was standing and throwing rocks at tanks that is what the 2 amendment is there for.you see in china thay tell you only one kid and if that kid is a girl look out so what you want for us in american to be like the chinase??????
Piers was rude! He was attempting to cut off debate and not allow guests to answer his questions properly. He was a horrible host on what should have been an honest thougtfull debate. GET THAT MAN OFF OF CNN AND SEND HIM BACK TO HIS OWN COUNTRY.
Rude??? The man is outraged here. This crime was soooo horrible that it defies niceities here! Where is YOUR sense of moral outrage here? ENOUGH is ENOUGH, doofus!
Hey cocos
one thing is for sure. I know which of the 2 in this interview I would prohibit having a gun/weapon.The one who remained calm and respectful. I seem to remember Penis laffin and agreeing with one of his guests saying of another of Penis' guests, should be taken out and shot...for having an opinion not agreeable to his, no less. Nice! It seems the ones who want guns abolished are the very ones who would resort to gun violence. He ( Piers) also commented on British tv that he wished he could take some of the contestants out and machine gun the ones he referred to as being talentless and unworthy to be on the show. LOL. This shows where Penis' mind is really at yathink???
Penis does the death of those children an injustice and is an offense to the tragedy, the children, parents and all involved. What these children would want at the very least is not more anger and hate between people who disagree. To use the death of innocent children to further ones POLITICS I find more offensive than the heinous crime committed by a young boy who was not in complete control of his faculties.
Piers does nothing but hide and distort facts and thats bcos facts do not support the Liberals arguments. Simple.He resorts to name calling often when loosing arguments to his guests. He does not want to do justice to those children bcos he totally ignores the real issues in this matter. He is a self serving hypocrit and frontman for the NWO. Wake up pal.
...if Penis was really interested in rational, solution finding discussion and respecting the memories of these children then he needs to show the respect he demands of others ( Very difficult for a hypocritical liar to do I know ). and put effort into the real cause of these mass killings. But he wont and as he has shown in previous interviews. Runs and hides from the real issues..
It is shocking how many shootings happened this year. What do you think, will gun prohibition make you feel safer? I also saw this online poll here, I'd be curious to see what you would vote for:
https://www.inqu.mehttps://www.inqu.me/vote#!qid=gun_control_or_not_is_it_to_easy_to_get_a_gun_in_the_usa_and_should_be_more_restrictive
Thanks for your time to vote!
It was never safe bcos it was a Gun Free Zone.
The shooter came to Sandy Hook bcos it was a GUN FREE ZONE.
Like any crim. Theyll go where they wont be met by people/citizens carrying guns.Or schools with armed guards.Yathink???
Dear Lord, I thank you for the great gift you have given my family & me to be a citizen of a Country that is cilized, reasonably safe and Great – CANDA. I sincerely thank you for sparing us the nightmare of living in the USA that has been so forsaken by you in recent years. When will they learn "he who lives by thw sword (gun) will perish by the sword (gun)" – "Blessed are the Peacemekers, for they shall be called th sons of God" Matt 5.9..
Amen
Im not as conversant with scripture as you are but I do know the Bible says ther is a time, place and purpose for everything under Heaven. A time for peace, a time for war. A time to stand and fight. Fight to protect oneself and ones family. A time to fight for the freedoms enjoyed in the USA. Sometimes peace can only be achieved by standing and fighting.Two world wars were won by those who stood and fought against tyranny. You enjoy a free relatively safe life in Canada bcos of those who believed it was time to stand and fight...with the Sword. Please do not forget that and remember those who took a stand, sword in hand, who died for your freedom...Amen
Crims never give a hoot about regulations and or LAWS. How come you people cant work/figure this out. Wake Up!!! Paaallleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzz
more gun laws restrictions bans etcetcetc will do nothing to stop the crims nd mass murderers. NOTHING. It will just empower them even more.
Have American's declared war (on US soil) against thier own neighbours & kin?
What has war got to do with it?
My Dad was a W W II vet & did not suffer just for a simplistic word "freedom". W W I & W W II were fought as the 'war to end all wars". Our vets fought forDemocracy & peace and for a dream of a safer & better world where their children could thrive & prosper with a good system of law & order. It's not just about YOU & your freedom to clutch your penis (I mean gun/ phallac symbol).
If you are so scared & paranoid buy a well trained guard dog & an Alarm system. Support Obama care with enhanced mental health provisions. Agree to contibute more to taxes to build mental hoospitals. Then take a break in one yourself brother!
well those 2 wars did not end war now did they! Big Fail.
If you dont know what war has to do with it then I cant help your ignorance.
Yes they fought for freedom to have Democracy & peace and a dream of a safer better world etcetcetc .Isnt that all encompassing of freedom Marian? I apologize for my oversimplication but Im sure most thinking people who read my thoughts understood what you clearly did not. Thats too bad cos you got all upset for nothing.All good.No problem.I understand.
What it is about though, is my unalienable right to protect/defend myself and my family.The likes of you seem to want to take that Right from me? Why? The 2A also is to protect citizens from tyrannical governmnt. Ya know.Like Hitler ( why ur father went to war.Right?) Stalin, Chavez, Pol Pot etc. BTW. Where did I say its just about my right to bear arms Marian. Its about Democracy and ALL that it stands for.
I want to be able to defend myself, my wife and children against any person who would want to do harm to me or my family. Thats what its about.Not about phallac symbols Marian. It is my unalienable right.
BTW. Your phallac analogy only demeans you and your thought process, not mine!
Thanks for your advice on guard dogs and alarm systems but my weapons are sufficient.
PS. something tells me you do not have children Marian...Your right also.Im not paranoid about the safety of my life, my wifes life and the lives of my children at all. Because I can and I will Protect Them by the best means available to me.
Thank you....
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