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Tonight: Connecticut Police Chiefs remember Newtown; Obama in Israel
As Wednesday sees Colorado governor John Hickenlooper sign three new gun-control measures into law, this evening Piers Morgan hosts a round table discussion that will feature five Connecticut police chiefs. Including Newtown's Michael Kehoe, as well as Douglas Fuchs of Redding, Joseph Gaudett of Bridgeport, Brookfield's Robin Montgomery, and Patrick Ridenhour from Stratford, each of the cops were active during the days and weeks surrounding the Sandy Hook Elementary Shooting, and will use their "Piers Morgan Live" platform to share their first-hand perspective on the tragic December event, while also providing expert insight into the issue of firearms and gun control in the United States.
Additionally, with Wednesday marking Barack Obama's first visit to Israel as president, tonight the program will invite the founder and president of the Arab American Institute, James Zogby, as well as Senator George Mitchell and attorney Alan Dershowitz to place the international trip into political and global context.
Tune in this evening at 9, as "Piers Morgan Live" pivots between the world's of technology, international politics, and gun control.
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HEY PIERS, SHUT UP, GET OVER IT, STOP CRYING LITTLE BOY, YOU AND THE ONES LIKE YOU LOST , THERE WILL BE NO GUN CONTROL, NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WHINE OR CRY, LIKE THE SPINELESS , SNIVELING LITTLE BOY THAT YOU ARE , GUESS WHAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET YOUR WAY , NOW TAKE YOUR MARBLES AND GO HOME . BUT WE STILL HAVE TO LISTEN TO A BUNCH OF NO NOTHINGS , THAT WANT TO CALL A COYOTE RIFLE ,A RIFLE OF WAR, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD YOU MAKE ME SICK.
Wow Dana, get some background information before you speak. No one is trying to take away your pea shooter. Gun control Advocates want high capacity magazines banned. If you were to take your "COYOTE RIFLE" out for a shooting how many bullets could you fire in 5 minutes? FYI the Newtown shooter was able to shoot 152 bullets, 4 magazines, in less than 5 minutes
Why are you hidding in the United States over the phone hacking? Go home and take you punishment. Oh, I see, you want to ban phone hacking and make it a common practice. You are s a sniveling lil punk that needs to get out of our country. CNN isn't going to save you. I hope they give you up and send you to Britain and you do time for phone hacking. Be careful how you treat people because if you sling too much do-do, some might get on you. I can see you now, crying like a 'lil' female dog. Go home and tell your country about what you're guilty of. The other four are going to rat you out. There's no honor in journalism when you get caught up in a scandal. I'd like you to get 6-30 years like our laws have. Since you like to talk about our government. I hope the U.S. deports you. You're no better than Gary Assange, a raping coward running from justice!
Give me one good reason why these people shouldn’t need high-capacity guns…
1. People who live near the border to protect themselves against Mexican gangs. Police could take a half hour to arrive, so how would you hold them off with just 10 bullets, if there are multiple assailants with more than 10 bullets in each of their guns? (FYI: criminals don’t follow the law, in case you didn’t know.)
2. People who want to be prepared if their town should go into anarchy after a catastrophic disaster. We can’t always count on our government as we all saw in Katrina.
You sound very mentally healthy to me. I'm so glad you own guns.
SharonM said – It seems the Replublican senators are, in fact, pro death. How "interesting"......
I say-
Tell me how this comment makes you mentally healthy. Not a good comment to make when you are questioning the mental capacity of others! Amazing. Just because you are not a very smart person or low informed doesn't mean you can runs others down, an then go an make an idiot of yourself! I'm glad you are anti guns. Thank God for that! I would be afraid for you to own a gun.. Every gun owner I've met seems to have more brains then you! I don't know you, however your comments indicate you are a very unhappy senseless human bean! If everyone in this country was like you, I would be against gun rights...
Wow, Dana's an airhead,think before you speak women! Sen Hannity got B*^@H Slap tonight on his own show by this contributor named Leslie. She was so great " I love you Leslie. Hannity what a Dope. About the efforts with the mess in Egypt. Bye the way sean " we are descendants of apes "G"!!!!!!
Limiting magazine sizes is useless. With a little practice anybody can change a magazine literally in a couple seconds. Secondly, studies have shown that many people freeze during a mass shooting instead of running away. In numerous cases people remained sitting or frozen in place while a shooter reloaded or weapon jammed and were ultimately killed. Furthermore, an AR-15 is a weapon of self defense. Not everyone lives in a big city where the police are around the corner and can arrive on scene in minutes. Many people in rural areas have 20-30 minute police response times. Ranchers and farmers have hundreds and in some cases thousands of acres to patrol and secure. An AR-15 is a force equalizer. It allows one man to hold off many and protect his family, livestock and property until the police can be notified and arrive. One rancher / farmer and an AR-15 can handle anything they encounter including cattle thieves, drug runners, robbers, cartel and illegal immigrant smugglers. You wouldn't have mass shootings if more people carried guns and they removed prohibitations on carrying on schools and government buildings. Most of these cowards go to schools and places where they know no one will be carrying a weapon. Once confronted by police or armed citizens they usually kill themselves. I live in an open carry state where the majority of citizens take advantage of this freedom. Consequently, we don't have these type of incidents because if you walk into a public place and produce a gun about half of the people in the crowd would shoot you dead before you got a couple of shots off. Wake up America, criminals don't care about gun laws and background checks. They will continue to buy and trade guns illegally like they are doing now and will surely be the only ones to own anything the government bans for the rest of us responsible citizens.
I'm an American expat living in Liverpool England. After watching your program with Michael Moore I sent an email to Harry Reid in his response to water down gun control legislation because of his party's inability to stand up for their own morality. I never thought in all my years I would find myself in the position of taking guidance from a Brit (while living in the UK) on how to best exercise my rights as a citizen of a democratic state! Thank you Pierce.
As if the gun ban has had any impact in Britain! The British media refer to Manchester, a neighboring city to where you live as "Gunchester" because the victims, as young as 11years old, being slaughtered on the streets.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6438601/Gun-crime-doubles-in-a-decade.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/136561/Gun-crime-doubles-in-a-decade-under-Labour
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1450338/Firearms-offences-more-than-double-since-Dunblane.html
http://www.galtreport.com/index.php/guns/general/1656-gun-crime-doubles-in-a-decade-in-uk
http://www.galtreport.com/index.php/guns/general/1656-gun-crime-doubles-in-a-decade-in-uk
Manchester has about 35 murders per annum in recent years, that's 1 murder every ten days in a city of 2.5 million.
The EU names Britain as the violent crime capital of Europe!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/5712573/UK-is-violent-crime-capital-of-Europe.html
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/214775/UK-shamed-as-the-violent-crimes-capital-of-Europe
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25671/Violent-crime-worse-Britain-US.html
CR.... I see you still are clinging to your rediculous ar-15 and the defense every night. This guy dosent care about anything else but his contraversial death machine. have at it CR your going to shoot your eye out anyway, and someone innocent!
Scott have you had your check up yet?
THANK YOU SCOTT ELLIS ~ I too was motivated to email that smarmy weasel Harry Reid
http://www.reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm – and – my own Senators: > >
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm < find yours
Please feel free to use my message(s):
HARRY - Question: How many murdered children would it take for a Senator to be willing to lose his precious job ?
Answer: MORE, MANY MORE.
Ron - Question: Which should a father do - kiss his child - or his assault weapon?
Answer: " I'm thinking, I'm thinking ....
From one gun-owning American who isn't insane - and cowardly. Only a gutless wonder who can't shoot straight, needs more than 10 rounds to put down 3 or 4 bad guys. If you need to spray, you have no skills - pathetic losers - tea-bags where their balls should be.
It seems the Replublican senators are, in fact, pro death. How "interesting".
This comment is astonishing to me... Some people amaze me by their low intellect.
And yet their Democrat counterparts advocate for murder, as long as it is prior to the third trimester.
James, Kevin, I agree with you guys... This type of mentality is detrimental to our country.
I agree this is exactly the kind of person that's advocating hate and non-partisan politics in this country.. What a outrageous thing to say. That person obviously has extreme problems!
SharonM said - It seems the Replublican senators are, in fact, pro death. How "interesting"......
I say-
Tell me how this comment makes you mentally healthy. Not a good comment to make when you are questioning the mental capacity of others! Amazing. Just because you are not a very smart person or low informed doesn't mean you can runs others down, an then go an make an idiot of yourself! I'm glad you are anti guns. Thank God for that! I would be afraid for you to own a gun.. Every gun owner I've met seems to have more brains then you! I don't know you, however your comments indicate you are a very unhappy senseless human bean! If everyone in this country was like you, I would be against gun rights... lol
REALLY
Yeah DANA R-E-A-L-L-Y! the criminal right wing nut job Gang members do want the poor to die and delete the middle class! better take some History classess Girl!
haha this is so stupid. Very entertaining though. This comment made me laugh out loud literally. Some people are nuts. Enough said! I think even Piers would think your deranged! A very confused person lol
Hi Piers,
Just curious....All of your Polce Cheifs on your panel are wearing eyeglasses....
The people of Colorado did not elect the Hinsdale Sheriff to decide laws – only to enforce them. Deciding what to enforce is way above his pay grade. He should enforce the laws or he should resign.
What about Eric Holder the head of DOJ..he picked and choose which immigrations laws to enforce,depending what laws suited his liberal agenda...Those new Colorado gun control laws are mindless and unenforceable...does anybody really believe that a wacko or a criminal will obey the law ?? These laws will only effect law abiding citizens,...how stupid.
No law enforcement officer (or soldier, for that matter) can be required to enforce an unjust or unc0nst1tutional law. More power to the sheriff from Colorado for taking a stance. And kudos to the Oathkeepers for their efforts to publicize this aspect of the oath they take.
Piers, While I completely understand the reasoning behind everyone wanting to jump on board with an assult weapons ban, I think everyone needs to take a close look at the real issue. An AR-15 is nothing more than a pistol with the potential of 10, 20, 30, 50 and 100 rounds. The 50 and 100 round magazines are expensive so not very likely that a person off their rocker would have. These are not the same weapons as they use in the theater of war. The ones soldiers use are fully automatic. The Newtown incident was one of where the shooter was trying to have a large body count. Banning an AR-15 would not have stopped what he did, nor would it have cut down on the number of people he killed. In fact the AR-15, probably reduced the amount of people he killed because an AR-15 is not a close quarters weapon. Imagine being in a room the size of a classroom. If he had not had access to the AR-15 style gun, he could have built a small bomb, or a large bomb creating much more damage. From my understanding all of the ingrediants to do that are readily available in your local grocery store. He could have run a truck right into the class room, or could have used a knife. If we are talking about small children, he could have locked himself in the room and done whatever he wanted to. The point being, while the AR-15 style gun was used, banning that gun, gets you nothing in the long run. If someone wants to bring harm to a group of people, they will find a way to do it. Creating laws, just to create them does not make sense, especially when the AR-15 is not the problem. Take your show and be useful instead of counter productive. Dig deep, what are some things that we could do, to find the people that should not have guns for mental health reasons or any other reason. In Newtown, they had security but he just walked by because they knew him. He attacked that school because he knew there would not be any opposition. It was the same thing at Virginia Tech, Colombine, and Colorado. These people are cowards because they preyed on innocent people. Had there been a security force inplace at the school, it could be said that NewTown would not have happened. When you start taking guns away from honest people, the honest people will obey the law. It is the dishonest people that will find a way to do whatever they want to do, and if the plan includes killing themselves, there is no reprocussion for justice. Just my humble opinon.
Good points here. Well said indeed!
Hey Piers, How soon could the shooter In CO had been stopped if he had been in a theater that would have allow concealed weapons? How soon could he have been stopped if someone had a weapon to stop hi?.
Stephen Hallbrook ( see his website) ATtorney Paid by the NRA 1997 or there abouts 4 Law Enforcement OffIcers
SHERIFFS Sued the U.S. Government in disagreement the Brady Act telling them they could face criminal charges and be jailed if they did not make a resonable effort to do background checks on gun buyers in their counties,,The SHERIIFS WON THEIR CASE HANDS DOWN IN THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
FIRST OFF I DONT OWN A PEA SHOOTER I HAVE SHOTGUNS , HI POWER RIFLES AND PISTOLS, AND CAN FIRE 152 ROUNDS IN 5 MINUTES THRU ANY OF THEM , SOME REQUIRE MORE CLIPS THAN OTHERS, YOU PEOPLE THINK THAT ALL GUN OWNERS , DONT CARE ABOUT CHILDREN, JUST BECAUSE PIERS STANDS ON THE GRAVES AND PREACHES EVERY NIGHT THAT GUN CONTROL WILL SAVE CHILDREN IT WILL NOT. BANNING MAGAZINES WOULD MEAN THEY WOULD NO LONGER BE SOLD, WAKE UP JOSEPHINE ,THERE ARE MILLIONS ALREADY OUT THERE WHAT ARE YOU STOPPING NOTHING, I SUGGEST YOU GO TO A GUN RANGE AND SEE REAL GUN OWNERS AND LEARN ABOUT GUNS FROM THEM , INSTEAD OF LISTENING TO SOME STUPID BRIT THAT IS USING YOU, TO PUSH HIS AGENDA. AND BY THE WAY YOU SHOULD THANK PEOPLE LIKE ME , WE ARE THE ONES THAT KEEP BURGLARS FROM BREAKING INTO PEOPLES HOUSES, IF THERE WAS NO GUNS , THEY WOULD BREAK IN ALLL THE TIME. MAYBE YOU NEED SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
I agree with this.. Its amazing how people think taking away guns, or banning high capacity magazines, or banning "just" the simi auto's will help the gun murder problem in this country. All you anti-gun liberals take a look at Chicago. Strictest most regulated gun laws in the country, yet the highest crime... Mexico, another example. Complete gun ban for the citizens, highest crime rate in the world.... Wake up Piers! Wake up Libs! Not rocket science here!
This goes both ways and there's a lot of variables involved. You also need to seriously get off the NRA-influenced 'Chicago-is-the-crime-capital-of-the-US' drivel, let me just say that.
The worst crime spot in the US is Louisiana and it's cities of New Orleans and Baton Rouge – both are *far* deadlier than Chicago and have *lax* gun laws. In fact, only a small part of Chicago – the bizarrely named 'City of Chicago' which actually takes up only about 15% of the principal Chicago urban area – has tight gun laws. The continuous urban area around it and neighbouring states have lax gun laws. I guess a black guy from Englewood isn't supposed to cross a silly border to buy one, not that I think it happens like that.
You may have had a point about Mexico with individual states such as Chihuahua or Sinaloa, but they've simmered down somewhat. Honduras is the crime capital of the world outside of war and has *lax* gun laws. There's a lot of variables, one case isn't neccesarily like another.
Sheriffs are county Elected officials..the balance of power law enforcement officer that can tell a police cheif where to go and you know that piers,,I remember you got your A__ kicked by the Sheriff from Milwaukee a short time ago . The police cheif of Milwaukee was a P___y
wow Dana what little human compassion you have. Our countrys babies are being slaughtered in schools. think one minute of the little boy or girl that was the last to be decapitated in that room think of how he just wanted his mom and dad to come and take him out of the nightmare. And to think you want to save the assault gun from death but not the power to help save a child from this again. just one child saved that day from a small magazine to me would be worth it all. may god love those little children becuase I see the contempt that you have an agenda and will have to answer on your judgement day.
By far the most common type of injury accident involving children are those that also involve motor vehicle collisions. According to the National Center for Statistics and Analysis (NCSA), nearly 250,000 children are injured every year in car accidents. This means that on any given day nearly 700 children are harmed due to accidents on our roadways. OF THE 250,000 KIDS INJURED EACH YEAR, APPROXIMATELY 2,000 DIE FROM THEIR INJURIES. Children make up about 5% of total fatalities due to car accidents. In fact, for children between the ages of 2 and 14, “motor vehicle accidents are the leading cause of death.” Car accidents are also the leading cause of acquired disability (e.g., brain injury, paralysis, etc.) for children nationwide. And approximately 20% of the children who die in a car accident each year are killed in accidents involving a driver who is legally intoxicated. Nearly half of these children were killed while riding as passengers in an automobile driven by an intoxicated driver.
http://www.articlesbase.com/law-articles/children-car-accidents-the-alarming-statistics-695796.html
How about we cut down speed limits by half, huh? How many lives do you think we can save, hundreds?
I respect Piers, He is a likeable guy for me. Piers is very passionate about this issue, so am I. However he should not use tragedies like Sandy Hook to push his political views on the people. This show tonight is exactly why people like Ben Shapiro accuse Piers of "standing on the graves of the children" that died at Sandy Hook Elementary School. He has been accuse of this by many people, and that’s exactly what’s he's doing. It’s amazing; people like Piers use a tragedy like Sandy Hook to push their political agendas. Piers would take all the guns away if he could. And any new legislation will only lead more legislation and more rights taking away from the people, then before we know it. Gun rights will eventually be completely taking away. If we continue to allow laws and regulations to get stricter and stricter we will no longer be a free people. But the low information people are not informed enough or intelligent enough to realize this before it’s too late…
http://youtu.be/hRZPw8uRE70
CR ...Excellent,.. this video you posted is the truth,and cannot be denied.
She said it like it is. Thank you Judge, Thank you CR for posting this! And God bless Fox News for telling it like it is!
Interesting to see an arrogant Brit sitting there, lecturing 6 US law enforcement personnel on gun control ... no matter which side of the issue they're on. One of them was visibly 'red faced' as he listened to the rant by Morgan. OK Morgan, we get your point ... now, can you move on to other issues and stop jamming your opinion down our throats?? It's getting old.
I think hinsdale should be fired for blantenly planning to disregard the law. He was hired to uphold the law and if he flat out refused that is a complete firing offense. find someone who will at least try to uphold the law.
Mr. Morgan-If you want the Colorado sheriff to enforce the new Colorado gun laws because he has a sworn duty to do so, why aren't you telling the same thing to President Obama. He also swore to uphold the laws of the United States but I notice that he doesn't think that the Defense of Marriage act (among others) should be enforced. President Obama is leading by example so if the Colorado sheriff doesn't want to enforce the laws why is that a problem? The President seems to pick and choose the laws he'll enforce and no one seems to care about that.
HEY PAT REALLY , YOU MUST THINK THAT GUNS DO THIS ON THEIR OWN, THIS WAS CAUSED BY CRAZY PEOPLE , AND NO ONE CARES MORE THAN ME, BUT I WANT REAL ANSWERS TO SOLVE THINGS, YOU PASS THIS LAW AND THINK SCHOOLS ARE SAFE YOU ARE A FOOL, BUT IF THEY DID PASS THIS ARE THE BANKS SAFE THEN ALSO, SO THEY DONT NEED ANY SECURITY , YOU WANT SAFE SCHOOLS YOU PUT SECURITY ON THEM , AND THAT DOESNT MEAN GIVE THE TEACHER A GUN, THERE IS LOTS OF TYPES OF SECURITY.BUT THIS IS STUPID AND HELPS NOTHING, AND IF YOU MUST KNOW GUN CONTROL IS PUTTING THE SECOND BULLET, IN THE HOLE OF THE FIRST BULLET. AND BLAMING ME AND OTHER LAW ABIDING CITIZENS THAT ENJOY GOING TO THE GUN RANGE AND SHOOTING, BE RESTRICTED BY STUPID LAWS THAT DO NOT HELP ANYTHING IS SILLY,
Morgan is nothing but a mouthpiece from the wrong side of the pond. If you don't like freedom then GTFO. Gays should be able to get married, people should be able to own whatever they please, no one should be able to tell anyone else what to do as long as they aren't hurting anyone else. Liberals and conservatives are nothing but a never ending contradiction of themselves. Bunch of morons... it's all or nothing when it comes to freedom!!!!
I find it interesting that the left/anti-gunners are always trying to point out that all these politicians were swayed and paid by the horrible NRA with their overflowing coffers of money, as if there isn't big money behind the anti-gun orgs. It is never that perhaps they aren't including 'assault rifles' because they have seen the evidence and heard the debate and realized that they are only used in 1.2% of gun deaths. Also, NBC reported in late February that the final police report on Sandy Hook was that the AR rifle was found in the car trunk and only 4 handguns were found used and in the school. NBC can report that but people like Morgan, Feinstein and Moore still don't seem to want to admit that it wasn't used at Sandy Hook and isn't the problem, and now Moore wants to exploit the images of slaughtered children to further his agenda on emotion rather than fact. The Senate IS going to pass more meaningful legislation like straw purchase laws, background checks, mental health records etc. These anti-gun nuts just can't face the facts and look at the reasonable measures that both parties are talking about passing, things that will actually help in at least reducing gun violence and targeting reasonable laws, loopholes and actions that are supported by debate, facts and actual gun use data. For those of you who support the democrats, not to worry, the real reason they aren't voting to include 'assault rifles' is because they don't want to lose any seats in 2014, they will hope to take Congress and then pass all your feel-good laws that do nothing to prevent the meaningless violence in our nation. Just like gun-free zones did nothing to protect those children.
The ban on magazine sizes should be 10 rounds and retroactive as in you cannot Be in possession of a clip with more than 10 rounds no matter when it was purchased as it is in British Columbia, Canada where I live.
How about you just keep your opinions and yourself up there in Canada. (which i love by the way. I just think you should mind your own countries business and stay out of ours).
But Canadians don't have the const*tional right to bear arms!
And if the Canadian Liberals get into power at the next election as polls are predicting, Canadians are likely to see many of their gun privileges (not rights) the government currently permits them to have revoked. Kind of scary that!
The point is we should be evolving AWAY from violence, yet we are devolving....fast into the dark ages
IT"S WRONG.
THANK YOU CHRISTIAN YOU ARE CORRECT, AND HEY DOUGLASS THIS IS NOT CANADA AEY
Comparing the right to own guns to gay marriage is proof that the general populations way of thinking is wrong. No one NEEDS to own a gun (excluding law enforcement). Why should that have any bearing on whether 2 men should be allowed to marry?
Libcanuk,
Have a look around at what passes for 'culture' and 'family'. How many single mothers with no- account "babydaddies" does it take before you realize nobody needs to get married either? And see how great that's working out...
Well now It becomes clear why there is so much murder and violence in the United States.
Which is exactly why you should keep your ass up there in Canada.
Good news is........ I spend alot of time up there so we could hang out sometime if you want!
WHAT HE IS SAYING IS THAT , IT SHOULDNT BOTHER YOU THAT WE OWN GUNS, IT DOESNT BOTHER US WHEN CANADIAN GAY GUYS GET MARRIED,
A gay marriage cannot be used to kill movie patrons, or elementary school students. Your move.
Is 2 seconds a downside? Is 2 seconds an inconvenience for the 16+ clip owners?
So what are you suggesting, that two second window would have allowed the six year olds to overpower the shooter?
Truth is, it's not two seconds. You have to expel the clip, grab the new one, install it and then load the rifle. All the while you could drop it, fumble with it or it could get jammed. 2 seconds when you're all messed up in the horror of murder, I don't think so.
Two, five, seven, ten, whatever. We are talking about a room full of toddlers and their teachers, frightened beyond anything I can realistically imagine. Hard to rationalize how this could have mattered.
Too much of this debate is emotionally driven, looking for an easy answer even the answer is irrational and will do nothing to help.
I believe all options should be used. any all and and assault weapons being the ones used in almost all mass killings should be banned. they are not hunting guns. everyone I know use 22 rifles or shotguns. more sporting. the only sport it seems these assault rifles are being used for is hunting human beings. but since it seems background checks won't work but still should be done but all the latest wouldn't have turned up a thing on the last 3 shootings. security in schools should also be done but then again the government would be funding that and that would cost lots of money and we know certain groups don't want any government spending. which I think needs to be paid for if found helpful... cut out the stupid spending like paying healthcare costs for government workers making over 100,000 and let them pay it like most everyone else has too. but anything and everything should be done and also really do a study on these video games and take off the crappy tv shows that show so much real life violence (not so real) reality shows.
There is the American mentality, instead of dealing with the real issue that law abiding citizens don't need assault weapons with 100 shot clips they start trashing you and deflecting. The real horror is the little 6 year old with 13 bullet holes in her. Stick to the subject.
THERE IS ALOT OF THINGS WE DONT NEED 100 ROUND CLIPS IS ONE OF EM, BUT WE WANT EM, BUT WHAT WE REALLY DONT WANT IS LAWS THAT TELL US WHAT WE CAN AND CANT HAVE, BASED ON SOMEBODYS OPINION, LIKE WHAT SIZE COKE WE CAN DRINK IN NEW YORK, HOW OFTEN WE HAVE TO RELOAD AT THE GUN RANGE, WHATS NEXT ONE SQUARE OF TOILET PAPER IN THE AIRPORT TOILET. JUST TO SAVE TREES REALLY
I watched your round table with the Police Chiefs and have a couple of comments. First of all a ban on magazines and the reason given behind it is ridiculous. How long does it take to reload a gun, it takes less than two seconds. By what some of you were saying is that gives Law enforcement time to strike and the children time to run. Two seconds gives them enough time to have a false sense of security and expose themselves thus making them an easier target. Let’s see how far you can run in 2 seconds, not far enough to get away I’m sure. You should go and play paintball with no paintball gun and you will see how little chance you have if you are not able to shoot back.
You are a very intelligent person but you lack common sense if you actually believe what you have been saying is true. I say we should train and arm the willing teachers and administrators to protect our children. That solution is economical, enforceable, and quick, a common sense approach. It is time for the citizens to stop whining like babies and the Government to allow us to protect ourselves and each other from those who seek to harm the citizens of this country. The police cannot be everywhere to stop every crime, nor would I want or expect them too.
Last, There are so few automatic assault rifles in the US I don’t know why we are even talking about it. An AR-15 or American sold SKS or AK-47 are not assault rifles or any different than any other semi-automatic weapon from a .22 to a 50 caliber. They can only shoot one bullet per trigger pull.
I would like to see every Law abiding citizen be trained and encouraged to carry a firearm. These crazy people that attack unarmed citizens with ease would surly think twice before attacking a bunch of armed people going about their daily lives. There is a town in Texas that has proven that fact!
PIERS MORGANS OPINION IS WE DONT NEED HIGH CAP MAGAZINES AND AR 15S , I DONT WANT TO MAKE HIS OPINION LAW , ILL STICK WITH WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS WROTE , HAS SERVED ME WELL AND PIERS IS NOT EVEN A CITIZEN WHY SHOULD HE HAVE A SAY
This is the USA, so everybody gets their say. It is a beautiful thing.
That said, there is no requirement to either agree with or accept what anyonenhas to say and, unfortunately, there are no laws against stupid. Got to take the good with the bad and sort it out for ourselves.
Yea but the founding fathers also said we needed a well armed malita they did not say every citizen was to bear arms and the malita is our reservists and they are well armed. if you want to be technical. but I agree we all should have the right to defend ourselves but it is like drugs there are some for over the counter and some that need special permission. so what .. can you have the right to get a nuclear bomb. there are limits and they should be set for the good of all. and when something is being so abused that isn't even nessasary then get rid of it and stop with the bill of rights since it is being misquoted so much.
The militia includes every able bodied man between the ages of 17 and 45. That is you and me. It has nothing at all to do with the reserve. Or the national guard.
ps I don't been get rid of the bill of rights I just mean stop quoting things that are not in the bill of rights
this is word for word the second ammendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
WELL THE 2ND AMENDMENT HAS NOT BEEH CHANGED YET, AND WAS RECENTLY REVIEWED BY THE SUPREME COURT, AND THEY SAID THAT, YES THE PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, SO KINDA HARD TO TAKE THE GUNS
You see the militia is to be regulated. and in that regulation the people have the right to bear the regulated arms since the people back then were the militia. which is now our reserves . but we do have the right to bear arms but not any and all. that would be crazy
THIS IS A LITTLE TOUNGE AND CHEEK , BUT THERE IS SOME TRUTH TO THE OLD SAYING, THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE ARMED ARE CALLED CITIZENS, AND THOSE THAT ARE NOT ARE CALLED SUBJECTS
BETTER REREAD THAT PAT DONT THINK YOU UNDERSTAND IT COMPLETELY
The difference between the Sheriffs in Colorado and the Police in Connecticut is that Sheriffs are elected officials and are responsible for up holding the const*tution.
I READ THAT AS THEY GAVE 2 REASONS FOR THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS , ONE FOR THE MILITIA AND ONE IS THAT IT IS NECESSARY FOR THE SECURITY IN A FREE STATE , BASICALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYS A FREE STATE , ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO CHIME IN ON THAT
you know sometimes I wonder what our they would think know. I think common sense should be used when you look at the bill of rights. back then the musket ball was the weapon. not much worse than a bow and arrow. what would they say now. I think they would have a different view if living today .. common sense and the time have to be looked at. the basic concepts need to be held but limits on some things, and that same supreme court that says corporations should be treated as people. wow. unless your filthy rich watch your pocket books the rich back room games are going after the rest of the 401 k profits next. they already raked in half of it and tried to get all soc security thank good they failed privitizing it so they couldn't force down the stocks and buy it all up. they really are playing sick games in the top 1 percent and if you don't believe it your very niave. just look around and see what is going on.whos got the money and who is still makeing huge money and who is stuck in the rut with no raises prices going up less money to spend every week. but the rich aren't even feeling it. oh yeah buy gold.... huge ploy with the rich having all the gold and they are sellling it 3 times higher than it was a few years ago and people are stupid enough to believe the hype and buy it .. the rich are getting richer by the millions. sheep. believe what they are told. I watch fox news cnn any and all and look around at what is going on to make my mind up and I wish we could have a truly common sence party , not the right wing tea party or the left wing tree huggers. but a down the middle of the road party that would compromise
Well i think you just wrote some truth there pat , I leave you all with a final thought, guns are like motorcyles, some love them some dont, for those of you that dont,i understand , I hope you understand that i do, but that doesnt put me in the group of crazy people that shoot up public places. and i dont want to be punished for it. For those of you that want some gun control ,i have news for you , you already have it, where i live ammo is very scarce , my cabellas does not have any 22 ammo even , let alone any ammo for ar 15s, but for you non gun owners what is your plan , against home invasion, guns are no more dangerous than anything else it depends whose hands they are in, for all you non gun owners go to your local gun range , you will find that guns are not that big of a deal, they are just a tool like anything else , i have recently bought guns and have went thru background checks , i even have 2 guns i can not shoot cause i can not find ammo, thanks to piers morgan and everyone else that is scarring everyone into buying all they can find and hoarding it. thats is the real trutth , and the most sad part is , we need school security , not weapons bans .good night everyone
Dana,
I hear you loud and clear. What the left refuses to acknowledge is that 99.999% of gun owners should never be painted as irresponsible or crazy because of the acts of a deranged young man. Yet that is what they are doing. Really, it is no different than racism in that they label all gun owners based on their irrational fear and prejudice. Maybe we should call it profiling – guilty by association.
The people who want bans are the same ones who promote 'tolerance' as policy yet they refuse to tolerate millions of law abiding gun owners. Instead, they demonize them. The same folks preach 'free choice' as a right. Right until they disagree with the choice you made to be armed. They defend their rights, except the one which allows them to keep the ones they hold dear secure from encroachment.
Foolish. Short sighted. Hypocritical. And a danger to liberty.
SORRY ONE MORE THOUGHT , WAS WATCHING A GUN SHOW THE OTHER NIGHT, WAS FILMED IN POLAND AT SOME OF THE GUN FACTORIES THERE , AT THE END , THE HOST WAS STANDING IN FRONT OF THE DACHOW CONCENTRATION CAMP, STATING THAT THESE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ARMED , IN MY OPINION, THE TRUTH WAS SPOKEN AND THAT IS WHY THE FOUNDING FATHERS WROTE THE SECOND AMENDMENT
Take your caps off. It's rude. This is a public forum to exchange ideas. No need to yell.
We're not talking about taking away guns, or your rights. Just trying to limit the amount of little school children some freak can kill in 10 minutes.
Then your focus needs to be on the freak.
I would venture to guess you don't have children that go to school.
Three still in school. Our schools implemented safety policies years ago which I believe are still sufficient, even in the wake of this tragedy. I am concerned, always, for their safety and well being. But I do not spend my days worrying unnecessarily.
I hunt moose and deer, I have never needed a 100 shot clip. Only mass murderers need them.
Did someone mislead you to believe the 2nd amendment was about hunting? Don't feel bad, it happens all the time. Besides, why do you feel anyone is required to meetnyour standard of 'need' to own something?
Your right the 2nd amendment isn't about hunting, it's the right for it's citizens to keep and bear arms. I don't think they imagined freaks with semi automatics and 100 shot clips going into theatres and schools to kill as many people as they can. I'm sure James Madison, George Mason, and Patrick Henry they would be very disappointed in how their intent is being misused.
Douglas,
I have to agree that the founders would be taken aback by all of this. But I believe they would see it as an issue of corrupt culture and low morals driving these violent acts, and not necessarily a matter of hardware.
The Sheriff from Colorado characterized a magazine ban as a slippery slope, which the host dismissed saying something along the line of " we can deal with that if we get there". Look at tonight's discussion. I suggest we are there already.
I picked up on that also. Morgan put his foot in it and revealed just that.
True, although do Americans really believe that they are going to collectively take up their AR15's against any US government today ? Really ?
Fuels their fantasy world of being an ignorant hero. Drone come down!! next movie!
No it's not about that at all, it's about the fact we don't like big government telling us what we can and can't do. As you're Canadian you come from a completely different mind set and enjoy the nannying. That's what makes our two countries so different.
Douglas,
Military and LEO take an oath to defend the const1tut10n, which forbids them from acting against the citizenry. Some might, most won't. The majority take their oath very seriously. Believing otherwise is where the fantasy comes in. Then again (this is speculation on my part) if that were to happen I believe Patriots would manage to bring more than rifles to bear if the government were to deploy troops in a hostile manner.
What a quake Hannity really got his Butt served to him tonight by contributor Leslie about Egypt. Priceless! Why cant the lttle uneducated right moderates grow some B*^lls and quite crying about expressions and contribute some ideas. Day in and day out most of you dont have a clue about The national business. Water cooler talk fuels your issue responces. Do some research. Im getting emmbarrased for the last 6 months on this site! Wow!
By reading these posts it sounds like most of Piers' audience live north of the 49th!
Funny to think that the last bastion of Piers' audience are Canadians. As his viewer numbers shrink he's spent last few month convincing Canadians about an AR15 ban in the US. That's too funny!
We all watch the news. All around the world. FYI. I have five daughters. I have seen the news about the mass killings in the US lately. It deeply saddens me. I can't believe people defend the right to own magazines/clips that hold that many bullets while their children are being murdered in their schools. You can't stop people from murdering people, those are mental health issues and unfortunately nothing can be done until After they commit the crime. Americans use the 2nd Amendment to justify their right to have such magazines when it doesn't even apply. It has nothing to do with your 2nd Amendment right at all. You have no answer to the problem, just attacks on people who would like something done about it.
Don't give up your freedoms, instead think of solutions to keep Alcohol and Bullets out of the hands of criminals.
A simple ATF stamp on your drivers license would save tens of thousands of lives. If you commit a major crime, the stamp comes off and you can't buy Alcohol, tobacco, or Bullets.
You 2nd amendment came from the English bill of rights. England being a different country than yours.
Modeled after, yes. Comes from? No.
The defining difference is that our rights in America are enumerated, not granted. they are part of natural law. They come from a higher power, not from government. As such they can not be taken away, nor should they ever be surrendered.
Connecticut Senate Bill 452 was put forward to remedy the fact that it lacks an "assisted outpatient treatment" law. But the bill was passed to Connecticut's Joint Committee on Judiciary, where it quietly faded away because of opposition by those who viewed it as egregious and outrageously discriminatory.
Had this law passed, it may have forced Adam Lanza to be treated for his alleged mental illness instead of allowing him to roam free and ultimately to kill 26 persons in a vindictive rage.
Why didn't the legislation pass? Because the ACLU and other "civil liberties" groups cried foul. The ACLU said the bill would "infringe on patients' privacy rights by expanding the circle of who can medicate individuals without their consent."
Well since the ban is not going to pass, has Mr Morgan bought his ticket back to England yet or is that just another lie to match the many he has told to get support for the gun ban.
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