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Filmmaker John Ziegler gets personal with Piers Morgan: "I know you won 'Celebrity Apprentice,' so you must be really smart"
In advance of an upcoming documentary centered around the Penn State scandal, this evening "Piers Morgan Live" welcomed John Ziegler for a contentious and combative interview that featured raised voices, and heightened emotions.
Insisting that the late Joe Paterno was fired without cause from his post as head football coach of the Nittany Lions, the 45-year-old Ziegler said his film is simply about finding the truth. When Piers Morgan countered by suggesting that Paterno knew about Jerry Sandusky's inappropriate behavior, and even aided in a cover-up, Ziegler resorted to personal insults draped in sarcasm:
"You know nothing about this case. I know you won 'Celebrity Apprentice,' so you must be really smart," he bellowed. "You seem to think this is a commercial endeavor. This is not a commercial endeavor."
Writing off his guest's insults as simply offensive for the sake of shock value, the host goes on to read a statement from the Paterno family, noting that "nobody wants you doing this."
Suggesting that Ziegler is only serving to put the victims through additional trauma, while also attacking the Paterno family in the process, Morgan inquires about the specific motivation behind the documentary:
"My only agenda here is to find out what happened," he stated. "You guys in the media didn't do a good job of that. You bought into a narrative that makes no sense and for which there is no proof."
Watch the clip, and listen to the interview, as Morgan and Ziegler engage in a fiery exchange of ideas and opinion, in the process even tossing around a few insults.
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Why does Sean Hannity keep begging over this weekend on his weak news forum that he wants to BOMB IRAN and start another WAR! His children arent going to be up front ( or even in the military, Id be Gasped) He seems to whine to the weak minded followers who cant think for theirselves ( great dinner though, Huh?) Shut up and keep your flimmsy mouth SHUT, unless your joining the American Military SEAN! No more Wars! Bush didnt pay for the last TWO! Every other congress ( besides the Sham of govnerment Congress 112th and 113th that gets paid for nothing) assessed a tax to pay for previous wars! Now Somebody give me the total of Trillions calculated from Iraq and afganastand.
Post the entire interview please.
Yes, please post the ENTIRE interview please Piers.
YES, PLEASE POST THE FULL INTERVIEW –
By posting only a portion – it shows CNN knows Pierce last evening with John Zieglar was a DISASTER
Yes post it all – what a shambolic ramble by Piers – name calling and shouting over his guest – this was awful to watch and he was plain wrong to conduct himself like that.
Piers, stop acting like you're concerned with the victims, only to turn around and ask/drag Sherry West onto your show. Sheesh! How about a little decorum?
I don't believe Sherry West's story for a minute. I feel very sad about her little boy, but her older son was killed while he was attempting to murder someone else. Her story is full of holes and crocodile tears. She condemned the mother of those boys, while she herself had raised a son who was going to murder someone. How convenient that was not mentioned during the interview. The truth will come out eventually.
Piers I am sorely disappointed in your interview with Mr. Ziegler. You apparently are faltering in ratings and just looking to do hatchet jobs on guests you do not agree with, versus truly following in Larry's footsteps and doing a professional interview. Mr. Zeigler is not defending Sandusky at all, he is trying to reach the truth about Joe Paterno, who was used as a scapegoat by the Penn State Board. The rush to judgement is about the rush to find a scapegoat by the board and the media's desire to tear down a person who lived life by the highest morale values and had a greater impact on student athletes that is unmatched in sports. I have supported you in the past, but now am longing for Larry King to return to his show that you are using as a bully pulpit. Piers, do your homework instead of taking the easy route of attacking and talking over your guests.
I was pretty upset about the way Piers went about this interview and wanted to post my disgust, but Steve summed it up nicely. What he had in front of him was a mirror. That man treated Piers like Piers treats others and he couldn't handle it. Then he goes to a break, and then goes to a so-called expert who didn't know much, and then cuts off the interview. Was that Piers Morgan or Nancy Grace? I couldn't tell the difference tonight. I've always felt that if you ask someone a question, they should be able to answer. I don't think I'll watch him again. Plenty of channels on my TV.
Totally Agree...Steve summed it up perfectly. I have always supported Piers and DO NOT support Paterno...but that was extremely unprofessional.
Totally agree, Piers is a waste of space. The point of Ziegler's appearance was to discuss the lack of evidence that Paterno covered up anything. Piers just kept ranting that John was attempting to prove Sandusky was innocent and the Paterno was guilty of a coverup because he was fired by the BoT.
I absolutely agree with it..Professionally he is making poor choices..
Piers is not alone in this! Matt Lauer used the same deflecting questions on the today show. I'm sure ESPN (EVIL) will ignore and deflect Mr. Ziegler's story also as they are the leaders of this destruction of a town and a university and a great man's reputation all so the state of Pennsylvania could avoid large civil payouts for bumbling the 1998 investigation! Sad and disgusting.
Morgan needs to take a LONG WALK ON A SHORT PIER
Steve do you look around your city and scratch your head to how discombobulated everything is in its reality? forget this tory and look around where you are, cant escape, better start with the schools PTA and work your way to the State Capital. reality check!
I couldn't agree more. No journalistic integrity here.
Pierce I always liked you n
But you are a bully an hypocrite ! When people accused you of first hand knowledge of "news of the world" shenanigans you denied denied denied! I knew nothing saw nothing how convenient.
Yet you are so quick to judge Joe Paterno, why didn't you do a right thing Pierce????
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Poor interview. Mr Morgan would not let the guest finish his say and then rebut. He never addressed the guests claim that the dismissal is not proof of cover up. It is not. If Mr. Morgan's positions were strong and accurate he would not become so defensive. Let the guest have his say so we can hear his case. It will succeed or fail on its own merit. Poor job overall.
Was really disappointed with Piers actions and responses. Piers seemed to be the one ranting and raving. He knew what the guest was going to talk about but yet didn't want to hear anything. Lost a lot of respect for the show. 15 minutes of yelling back and forth.
Piers,
Educate yourself with the material before your show. Mr. Ziegler was right.
I compare Piers Morgan to a Jerry Springer circus act. Why request interviews on these topics and then just taunt them with your feminism manners?
John Ziegler had all the facts tonight. Pompous buffoon Pee-ers Morgan was on the ropes, shocked that his total ignorance of the subject matter was revealed so publicly, (well, to all 15 viewers of "Piers Morgan Live"). Morgan was babbling the same sentences, using the argumentative style of Pee Wee Herman ."I know you want to bring up facts, but what about Sandusky?" was repeated 17 times by Morgan. Finally Morgan, screaming "No Mas" ran to karen Peetz ugly step daughter, Sara Ganim, who won a Pulitzer Prize for plagarism.
Piers you were more like a politician than an interviewer tonight. You avoided addressing everything Ziegler said and made a real mess of it because you had an agenda.
I watched the interview and saying you welcomed him was a joke, anytime you don't agree with your guests you attack them and don't let them finish a sentence. I might not like what your guests have to say sometimes but c'mon man let them talk. You lost a viewer tonight because I'm sick of watching you attack guests and cut them off. You are no Larry King!
Piers,
I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I am shocked at your opinionated conjectures that cloud your reasonableness. It makes me wonder how I will be examined for my beliefs when the time comes. (and the time will come.)
It started with gun control, which I advocate, but you are embarrassing. Joe Paterno never had a day in court, yet you condemn him before hearing or allowing a full disclosure of facts. And that is shameful to the public - you censored my obtaining a viewpoint, that I could judge as reasonable. You judged what I would think. Is this China???
You are stupid. Some of us have a better skill in examining viewpoints. Why are you being paid??? Go Home!!!!
Please,
Al
Mr. Moirgan really needs to listen to himself. If the young man, victim 2 ithink Mr. Zigler said really did not verify did not support what was reported to the courts then the coverup is by the FBI, police, and by the prosecution. That is what uyou should be looking into. Please get to the bottom or at least see if you can interview victim 2.
I was very disappointed in this show–my first and last time to watch. Morgan did not let his guest speak and in fact, seemed like he was on an agenda to shut up Mr. Ziegler. Then, he let's the Mom of the baby who was shot go on and on. No one wanted to hear an account of that tragedy. Shame on you. You are a poor excuse for a host who is obviously scraping for ratings.
With his behavior, I turned the show off. I'm done. NEVER watching again.
I was actually disgusted with this interview, I really used to enjoy Piers Morgan now he is becoming worse the Olberman and Oreily were and are. Seems lately he is just not listening to his guests and has an wants to talk down to them. If the news is too personal to report with objectivity and clarity stay off the topic. This man had an unpopular view about paterno and was he was turned into a supporter of sandusky which it seemed obvious he was not. Please change course with this show this was one of the worst but so similar to recent interview Mr. Morgan has done and once again very disappointing. They may have been a worth while news story here, maybe not but the reality is as the host it was CNNs job to get to that in a polite way and bringing in that reporter who didnt even touch on the paterno topic just further shows how off base the production and direction of this was, just really bad. and this isnt even touching the gun control exploitation and agenda stuff, please fix the show
Way to go Steve I agree with you from the post above. John Ziegler stood his ground with Piers. Piers fianlly met someone who could handle his over-powering, bully like, journalist style. Which another word for that style is RUDE. How funny when Piers couldn't handle it he went to break saying John needed to calm down. When the interview continued Piers started twisting the story around and accusing John of false facts. Piers you try to be direct and put your guests in place but it's not working for you. Piers your an embarrasment to all CNN journalists. Go back to Britains Got Talent. If they would even take you back.
Piers is an embarrassment. That was not an interview and very frustrating to watch. Why have a guest on if you won't let them speak? Is Piers really so simple he couldn't understand the simple distinction that the point was not to dispute the Sandusky conviction? Or is it easier to just bully for ratings? It is obvious he didn't even have a basic understanding of the case beyond headlines.
Cancel this pathetic show and try to raise the intelligence level of your shows.
I think Piers was behaving very unprofessional. He clearly aggravated John Ziegler to the point where he had to insult Piers. The man didn't want to admit his lack of knowledge yet takes every opportunity to drown out whatever Ziegler is saying. And the report above is biased (obviously) Piers was saying rude, inaccurate things too. I'm pretty sure Ziegler wasn't "shrieking". Absolutely silly. He acts like a little boy in that interview. Hey Piers, why bring people on your show only to insult them? Filthy
Sadly, professionalism is long dead in the ratings-driven world. Morgan is just another sensationalist that cares little about the facts and knows that these kind of screaming matches tap into the public's endless thirst for crap television.
Piers Morgan is so rude to his guests that I will no longer watch him! He brings on people he knows have a different point of view just to argue with them. He does not allow them the opportunity to speak and belittles them. He is a bully! Please #CNN...remove him from your network.
Piers, come on. Do you really think your opinion matters? I got sick when I watched some of this show. I do not see how a journalist can be considered an expert in anything, but their own opinions. I truly am getting really tired of the television shows that are on TV. You people commercialize way to much. You put journalists up on pedestals.
Those of us who live in the real world see a lot of things wrong and you journalists avoid the real questions and the questions you raise are tainted by opinion. I am seriously thinking about cancelling my satellite subscription because of the BS I hear on the news and the stupid reality shows taking over.
We need a news station that ONLY gives facts that does not cut and paste what they want the public to see and hear just to boost ratings. It's all about the money and I think these opinionated journalists called entertainers are totally bloated.
People need to question the validity of someones accomplishments and allow people to explain their opinions without being cutoff by some bloviated journalist.
once again Piers proved what an ass he can be, I'm done with his "show".
I used to be a fan of yours but now am utterly disgusted by you. Even if you may be correct on the issue, the way that you bully and try to belittle your guests make you look like a fool. I honestly can't tell anymore if you even do research before debating these issues. I would much rather hear you rebut with facts rather than spit out responses that do not make any sense and bark like mad dog that doesn't have a bite. The more I watch you, the more I realize how much of a hypocrite you really are. How can you say to a guest that they are hurting victims when you are the one you put them on air and gave them the platform to speak to a nation audience? Anyway, you've lost a fan but here's some words of advice to you... I think that you really have to check yourself before you wreck yourself to the point where you'll eventually lose your show. It already may be too late though...
Piers,
Amazing job tonight. Larry King must be shaking his head in shame at what has happened to his interview spot. Was that your best effort at an interesting dialogue with Mr. Ziegler? Rather than an intellectually stimulating debate, you pulled off a badgering blubbering aimless attack that was an embarrassment to CNN and journalism. I can't understand what kind of audience you can generate with your arrogant and unbalanced approach. Eurekadog pointed out the irony of your sensational anti-intellectual rants - immediately after Ziegler points out that you are the one inflaming the interview with claims that Ziegler was attacking victims, you turn around and splash a grieving mother in front of the nation during the most horrific week of her life. Your bully pulpit style may play well in Britain. But the more you attack intelligent people like Ziegler, and any other conservative silly enough to get on your show, you underscore the growing problem with a polarized American media. You are the mirror image of the Fox journalists you despise so much. When is CNN going to move away from this sort of demeaning infotainment, and help elevate the level of dialog this country really needs. CNN - please replace Piers with a real journalist like Fareed Zakaria, Candy Crowley and Erin Burnett. A talk show doesn't need to be like this.
Why does Ziegler feel more compelled to clear Paterno's name than Paterno's own family? Ziegler should just admit that he's exploiting the unconditional Paterno-reverence for financial gain. Sandusky is guilty, Paterno was aware of McQeary's allegations in '98, yet never pursued them. Both got what they deserved.
The mcquery allegation was in 2001. The 1998 allegation was investigated by most every law enforcement agency in the area along with psychologists and the attorney general without an indictment. The 2001 allegations reported to paterno were also reported to 2 mandatory reporters of child abuse before paterno was told and another mandatory reporter was told after paterno yet none of the 3 have been charged with a crime that you and everyone condemn and defile paterno for, ironic isn't it?
It's a shame you have such limited knowledge of this case. How could or would Paterno follow up the "'98 case" when the DA found no grounds to charge and the case was investigated by CYS and DPW. Either stop posting nonsense or study the subject.
Well, Scott and rothernbj beat me to my point. Your comment is embarrassingly ill-informed about McQuery, Paterno, and the scandal as a whole. So why should we sign on to your conclusions about either of them?
Ziegler may be a wired gadfly, but he has researched this more thoroughly than most, and is driven by a hunger for justice for a man he senses has been slandered. This is noble.
Everything else about Paterno's legacy is seen as uniquely noble, and the accusation that he protected a pedophile simply doesn't make sense. His MO for protecting his program's reputation over decades was to isolate decadent behaviors and heal or eliminate them–not protect or conceal.
What possible motivation would he have to make an exception for a man he didn't like, whom he told to his face that he should leave the PSU program before the '98 episode even happened, whose access to the football building was arranged in retirement over Paterno's explicit objection, and who was no longer under his authority?
Even if you are cynical about Paterno generally, this "conspiracy to conceal" explanation makes no sense.
Ziegler has lost more than he has gained for his passion, yet he sticks to it. He is no Penn State alum or fan. He is at least honestly devoted to his cause, and at best, well researched and right.
Matt, as they say on jeopardy.....errrrtttt, wrong answer!!!!!!! Get your facts straight before spewing garbage!!!
In reading these comments, it seems that Piers Morgan's bully pulpit "journalism" may have helped Zeigler's case. Zeigler correctly predicted (in advance) that the media would try to spin this as an attempt to exonorate Sandusky. Piers Morgan is a hack.
Matt, study the case a little, your wrong on all counts.
McQuery had nothing to do with '98. That case was investigated and dropped. Another speaking without knowing. The '01 case that started the whole connection to PSU football, and the kid involved, who said nothing happened, is the case that got the football program in trouble. Read and learn the truth before you make as ass of yourself.
1998 is the very weakest point on which to base your assertion, but you would not know that since you never read the original Freeh report and subsequent actual reports. In 1998, the local DA and assorted child welfare agencies investigated and decided there was nothing there. A tragic error yes! But not an error that you could expect Paterno to know about, UNLESS someone broke the law and disclosed a confidential investigation......but no matter, enjoy your bliss, eh?
Once again Piers you are making an ass out of yourself. You invite guest onto your show and then talk over them and don't even give them a chance to express their point of view. Why do you do this? If someone doesn't agree with your point of view you get extremely upset and angry. You need to respect the views of your guest and quit being such a jerk before you lose your show altogether. You have done the same thing with all the pro gun guest you have if they don't agree with your point of view. Maybe it's time to think about a career change.
The interview was a journalistic disgrace. Mr. Morgan refused to let Mr. Ziegler disclose any facts concerning the media driven narrative of a Penn State cover up. He continuously deflected Mr. Ziegler's attempts to state facts and or opinions which came to light during his interview of Sandusky. Mr. Morgan stated that Joe Paterno was fired, thus proving there was a cover up. Five year olds display better logic than this so called journalist. Mr Morgan wined incessantly about being insulted and offended then proceeded to insult his guest repeatedly towards the end of the interview and then demand complete silence for the Pulitzer Prize Winning Sara Ganim so she could remind us all to remember the victims for the 4 trillionth time like somehow that's going to make everything all better. You know what helps heals victimized people, the TRUTH!!! You know people, it sets you free. Ask Sara Gamin what the TRUTH is? Or ask the Pa attorney general or the states attorney who presented a false Grand Jury presentment or better yet ask the current Pa. Governor what the real truth is? Wake up people, your being lied to everyday by a corporate Facist media in bed with politicians they and other corporations buy through political contributions. I'm a 50 year old husband with two grown children, not a psycho living in a cabin in the woods. I called CNN to express my distaste for them. I ask you to do the same if you care to fight for your right to life liberty and happiness. Fight back before its all gone. Ask questions and demand the TRUTH!!
A grand jury presentment that takes 3 years to indict and 7 months to go to trial and convict?
3 mandatory reporters of child abuse who had the same story Paterno Cutley Schultz and Spainier had who did not report it and were not charged? ( 2 medical professionals and a child psychologist???? ) and on and on and on........ I can keep going ............ ?????????????
CNN you have a fantastic group of journalists. EXCEPT Piers Morgan. He needs to go. What are you waiting for? We need more hotties like Anderson Cooper.
I was so irked by the Piers Morgan show (again) that I decided I had to leave a comment somewhere, hoping that a CNN executive might see it and take note of my plea to remove this individual from the air soon. In my defense, the TV was already set to CNN when I turned it on, so I watched a little bit of the show only by accident. I was very happy to see that, based on the other comments on this site, I am not alone. Having just 87,000 viewers is quite a feat, but having them all hate you is even more impressive. I predict even lower lows in the future for this show. Please replace this person's show by something (anything) else, so I can watch CNN again, as I did before...
I usually love watching Piers Morgan, but please Piers would you allow ALL your guests to finish their train of thought without talking over them. We cannot follow the discussion if you and your guests are shouting over one another.. I know it is frustrating listening to people talk nonsense but we, the audience needs to hear different sides. If your guest talks nonsense, please allow him to finish his point. We will then be able to see both views clearly.
The gun issue is another topic where you need to stop talking over your guest.
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Piers need replacing
Agree, Piers, you need to find a different line of work. CNN, you can and should find someone a lot better at what this show is about, why do you invite a guest on and don't allow discourse.
He's apparently good at phone hacking!
Wake up CNN – this Piers character is ruining your brand!
I used to be a die hard CNN fan. It was ALWAYS on! I've now switched to Fox!
Piers: You are awful.
It's obvious you had an agenda and were not interested in any facts.
That big, wet, sloppy kiss you gave Ganim at the end was embarrassing as well.
You are NOT Larry King.
Piers made himself look like an idiot. John had a crucial piece of evidence in his hand that Piers totally ignored, insisting on his personal biased feelings as the "truth" instead. It was evident that Piers has not looked at this topic, nor has he educated himself in any way before this interview. To make statements, as if they were truths, without knowing the facts is poor journalism at its worth. Why is this pompous POS still employed???
I would have sincerely liked to have heard what Piers guest had to say. There is no reason to watch the show if Piers is all I get to hear. And the total lack of manners by Piers was reprehensible. I will have to research this further, but apparently not on CNN.
It was crystal clear that Piers knows zero facts of the Sandusky case and the lack of evidence tying it to Penn State. That he calls himself a "journalist" when he has done no research is a disgrace to the profession. Maybe he, like Sara Ganim, relied on Twitter feeds for his fact checking!
I find it laughable that people are slating Piers. But ignoring the idiot he had in? He makes no sense, he's a rambling idiot. Ignores all facts that are given to him because he doesn't like them – in fact he is a prime example of the mouth breathers that populate America today. And it's funny that all the people who defend Ziegler are men. Football fans more concerned with a creeps legacy instead of the fact he failed the children in his charge.
Keep up the good work Piers. Cracking interview.
This entry is on the same level as Piers himself:the guest an idiot, Piers a rambling idiot,bloggers all men, therefore football fans, Paterno a creep who failed children. The pot is calling the kettle black here. Grow up.
The children were not in Paterno's charge. The only questionable case he knew about (1998 was declared "no wrongdoing" after police investigation) was promptly reported by Paterno to administrators qualified to investigate, something Paterno knew he was not. He did not let go of it until 10 days later, after he was sure the administrators met McQuery directly. No other cases surfaced until 2011. Incidents off campus and children you are not told about are hardly on your charge.
Nice Jordan. I see someone actually made an attempt to answer your ridiculous post. I give him credit, but sometimes you just have to call an ass-hat and ass-hat. And that you are.
Piers used circular logic in his argument about Paterno. Paterno had to know because the Board fired him and because the Board fired him he had to know. Really? Piers Morgan does NOT KNOW, nor has he ever known, that no children were assaulted on PSU's campus AFTER Paterno was told about that incident. The trial verdicts confirm that fact.
Piers also doesn't know that the Paterno family's own expert, James Clemente, stated that Paterno had no idea Sandusky was a child molester. Sara Ganim won a Pulitzer for LOCAL REPORTING - she reported what the police and AG told her about the incident. She sat through the trial and was unable to identify the clear cases of perjury by witnesses. One in particular who referenced her column and said that it prompted him to call the police - the problem was that he called the police BEFORE Ganim's column was ever published.
Unfortunate that Ziegler was given the opportunity to share hs knowledge and some truth about the investigation or lack there of, only to be countered by another media hack who has no interest in the truth and just wants to rant. Clearly the rush to judgement was wrong. And nobody defends Jerry Sanduscky or what he did. But Joe Paterno's life long behavior would never suggest he placed football above the well being of children. Joe had the highest graduation rates ov any Div ! program for years, long before they started tracking it. That did not happen because he placed football first. God bless John Ziegler for investing the time and energy in discovering the truth. Shame on Peirs Morgan for being a blithering idiot who cannot follow a string of logic.
Morgan comes across little a medieval inquisitor–that dead certainty of his own correctness rendering guests who disagree with him as unworthy of simple respect and good manners. This might be good television but it is most certainly not good journalism. How about a little objectivity instead of all the grandstanding. In no way did Ziegler deserve the treatment he got there today.
Pathetic job Piers. Pathetic!!!!! "They fired him, he must be guilty" are you kidding. Get the hell out of here or go back to judging ridiculous talent shows. I use to defend you, man, I feel stupid.
I saw he "interview" which was nothing more than a reporter with an agenda. Piers would not let JZ talk at all let alone finish a sentence. Last time I ever watch Piers.
I'm noticing some interesting voices posting on here. It seems that Piers Morgan is finally being called out for being the close-minded, fact-ignoring bully he is. Now the important part: what other facts does he ignore? What other falsehoods does he perpetuate? How many reasonable voices are silenced by his ranting, allowing only one viewpoint – his – to be heard?
Maybe we should bring Jeremy Clarkson over to be interviewed. It would be nice to see Piers used as a punching bag.
I do watch the show. Piers has 2 personalities. Charming (like Larry) when he sides with a guest. Boorish when we is opposed to a guests view (unlike Larry). Piers was fired from the Daily Mirror after running a false story wrongly accusing British soldiers of misdeeds. Now after making harsh accusations against Paterno, he wants to shout down contrary evidence.
He is guilty of being a known slanderer. By his own logic, he must be. He was fired for it.
Step by step Piers tried to discredit his guest, not by refuting the guest's evidence and information, but by assailing his character. "You are out to make money". No. "You are out to hurt the victims". Uh, no. "You think Sandusky is innocent". No! He is already convicted. But the specific link to Paterno, the story that the media ran with, was wrong.
I would have liked to hear what this guy had to say. Piers did one thing, at least for me. He made this guy look credible. And he made himself look like a guy who got the story wrong, and will childishly defend his position when confronted with facts.
Piers looked like he was performing in an absurd Monty Python skit.
Piers owes this dude an apology. He is too small to apologize.
Bad interview Piers. If you don't know a lot on a topic, do less of the talking and add supplementals to the interview – not try to talk over and belittle your guests.
And Paterno was the fall-guy, the media and the country needed a high profile person to blame and he was the biggest fish to fry...pathetic.
Piers,
I just watched your attempted interview with the jerk named Ziegler, regarding Sandusky, PSU and Paterno. Regardless of any "evidence" he claimed to had, the jerk showed total disrespect for You and Sara. His incredible lack of respect totally discredited anything he may have been trying to say. I'm not sure he is intelligent enough to realize that, based on his behavior. I admire you for keeping your composure and not just coming across the table and slapping the "totally disrespectful" jerk.
Thanks for what you do.
Steve Libsack
Hogwash. Piers Morgan is the one who should apologize. He also needs to go back to journalism school while he's at it.
lol. What interview were you watching where Piers 'kept his composure'.
You appear to be on an island. Judging from the comments I have been reading above, the overwhelming majority of posts support the opinion that Piers acted like a complete a- H-!. He had NO FACTS, and rather than find out whether his guest had anything of value to report, he instead decided to attack the guest. Unfortunately Piers has no real understanding of the facts... That become obvious. I look forward to the time when CNN gets rid of this idiot. I used to watch Larry King, When I see Piers... I immediately change the channel.
How exactly would one have evaluated the evidence? Ziegler never had a chance to explain anything from the start. All we got was a parrot named Piers asserting Fired=Guilty.
Just saw a bit of last nights interview this morning. Terrible way to start my day seeing Piers act like an ________. On this blog it states REPORT ABUSE. Piers Morgan is an abusive journalist. Terrible, awful, disgusting, embarrassing, fowl, unkind, rude, unprofessional, apalling, sickening, disheartening, rude, nasty.
More evidence that Piers Morgan's show is a joke, and he's a pathetic telejournalist
CNN needs ratings, I guess. They're evidently not so much interested in quality in this time slot. I used to watch Piers, and I saw these behaviors from him over and over. In short, he's much more offensive than anyone on FOX. If CNN were interested in quality, they would certainly end their association with Piers. He adds nothing and only takes away from their network.
Piers, you made yourself look like a buffoon. You had none of your "facts" correct.
Horrible performance by you.
Question JT, What have you done for your community lately besides complain about a tradgety all the way around ( story sounds fishy) that is a cancer to your town , city, county? Stand up Dude! get out of the basement1
Piers, you are a clown! this can a job is not for some one like you.
what a joke of an interview by piers morgan...Zeigler was making very good points yet Piers would not even let him speak. This is typical of the mainstream media. They have a narrative and a viewpoint and they refuse to have a discussion about it because they need to be RIGHT all the time. Paterno may have made mistakes but all in all he was a good man he was not able to defend himself.
Ziegler 100, Piers 0
Piers looked like the ranting idiot here. I'm sure he only invited Zeigler on to try to make him crack, but Zeigler didn't and Piers' ridiculousness only helped make Zeigler's point that the media was out of control.
I thought Zeigler made some very interesting points on The Today Show, really showing a different perspective (not from Sandusky's POV but from Paterno's). I was hoping to hear more of that but Piers' idiot act prevented that. I don't think this completely absolves Paterno yet but alot of what John said on CBS could if proven, such as the shower victim claiming nothing happened. Piers missed a huge opportunity by trying to be a bully.
So you saying that the guy who was in the news and told the world he saw the whole thing and later speak to Paterno about it andPpaterno didn't do a dam about? so this guy is lying? hellloooooo! he was telling the true matter of fact he was the one who open the pandora box!
It was obvious Piers had little to no knowledge of the Sandusky story. He could have been educated by Ziegler if he took the time to let him talk and asked him relevent questions. Instead, Piers attacked Ziegler and railroaded the interview. What a sad excuse for a journalist or interviewer. In what could have been a great informative interview for Piers which would have garnered national attention, it turned into a Jerry Springer segment because Piers didnt want to hear he was wrong.
I am surprised CNN keeps Piers Morgan on the air. He lacks journalistic integrity and doesn't truly engage in any type of meaningful debate or discussion. Its all about Piers! Piers is ALWAYS right and everyone else is ALWAYS wrong. When a guest starts to get the better of Piers, he just cuts them off, tells them they're disgusting or goes to break! What a phoney hypocritical little schoolgirl!
Piers, In addition to your appalling manners toward your guest, Mr. Ziegler, I'm afraid you were terribly unprepared and uninformed on the subject matter. There really is no evidence at all that Joe Paterno is guilty of anything. None. That is the story waiting to be told. I should think a true journalist would be very interested indeed in hearing what Mr. Ziegler had to say.....
So true.
Piers is a coward. Right or wrong, he couldn't justify anything he was trying to say. Ziegler had "facts" that he could back up "alledgely". Piers was way out of his league and resorted to name calling.
Not all that long ago Piers was "owned" not only by Ben Shapiro, but also Jesse Ventura, Larry Pratt, Joshua Boston, Sheriff David Clarke, Ted Nugent and Dana Loesch, to name but a few.
In just about each instance, Piers lost his cool once he realized his guests were getting the better of him and exposing Piers' true lack of knowledge on most issues. He goes into a hissy fit, tossing papers about, turning beet red, calling his guests names and then generally, says he doesn't want to hear anymore or see them on his show.
What type of unbiased discussions are these? They're not! Piers is very biased towards the left! His opinions are always right!
CNN...its high time to get rid of this hack! I'd rather see Cosmo Kramer anchor the show! He's smarter!
I lived in PA for awhile so I've followed the whole Sandusky case fairly closely. Piers got so many things wrong I don't know how he still has a job. Good for Ziegler to lay the smackdown on Piers, he deserved it.
I would have really liked to have heard what John Ziegler had to say and the evidence about the supposed victim 2 in which apparently nothing happened on the night in the Penn State locker room. That entire night is the reason Penn State and Joe Paterno have been vilified in the media. Shame on you Mr. Morgan.
I would make bet that Piers Morgan will beat down doors to get Jim Carrey as a guest on his tabloid show,because of Carrey's ridiculous anti gun propaganda video...just sayin
From day one, after he had taken over for Larry King, as an interviewer/journalist, Piers Morgan has shown himself to be an arrogant, pompous ass. I seldom watch Morgan, but when I do it's,only for a short period of time simply because he is unbearable to listen to. His previous success was, if you call it that, was from the graciousness of Simon Cowell, who put him on a show as a judge of talent. Prior to that show he had an uninspiring career. Why would anyone think he would do a formidable job on American T.V.? I agree with many observers of his show, that it should be closed down, and that he should be shipped back to England
I totally agree ..Morgan has a career history in tabloid journalism which is pocked marked with scandal and corruption...Morgan was once fired from the Daily Mirror for faking photo's to make it appear that British soldiers were abusing prisoners..and Morgan was actually escorted from the building...His rants on gun control is not based in the facts and he is openly rude to any guests who opposes him...Morgan will think nothing of using Newtown and the families of the Sandy Hook tragedy as propaganda props for his liberal anti gun agenda because Morgan is more concerned in boosting his low ratings then in reporting the truth.
Why would anyone agree to be a guest on this show? Piers never gave Ziegler a chance to speak, and I would have liked to hear his viewpoint. Piers continued to show how little he knew each time he said the PSU a) fired Joe Paterno b) because he knew Sandusky was a pedophile. Paterno was relieved of his coaching duties due to the media circus–his presence would be a distraction on the field. Paterno also was commended for in his Grand Jury testimony for reporting appropriately.
Bringing Sara Ganim into the interview was totally unecessary. All she could do was immaturely roll her eyes.
And then compounded her immaturity by tweeting Morgan about how much fun it was afterwards.
I've totally lost all respect for CNN.
As someone not knowing the background of the case I was interested to learn from the debate between two mature people. I was sorely disappointed as the two obvious adversities shouted each other down. Mr. Ziegler obviously had a point to make and I wanted to hear what that was. Unfortunately Mr. Morgan did not and his control of the 'interview' was non-existent. It was embarrassing and detrimental to the standing of CNN and in my opinion Mr. Morgan loses impetus in his excellent stance on the Gun Debate. I will of course exercise my right to not tune in to anymore of these segments but feel cheated by the loss of what could have been an unbiased program.
Michael,
Please go to the framing paterno.com site if you would like to read a comprehensive report of John Zeigler's work. You will learn considerably more doing so in comparison to watching Piers Morgan act the fool.
Piers Morgan proved how little he knows about this case last night. John Zeigler has been studing this case for the last 16 months and he knows way more about this then Piers. It's funny that the only "evidence" that Piers could provide that "proves" that there was a cover up was the fact that the PSU Board of Trustees fired Joe Paterno. The main stream media should be absolutly ashamed with the way this story was covered. The media had an agenda and they refuse to give a voice to someone like John Zeigler who has an opposing view. The "cover up" theory doesn't even pass the laugh test. The media agenda was to attack and destroy Paterno's legacy and they succeded tremendously. If you believe, without a ounce of proof, that Paterno and the rest of the administrators at PSU knowing covered for a child rapist for 15 years than you are a complete moron.
this was no interview. Piers Morgan was a jerk. His style reminded so-much of Sean Hannity. Maybe Morgan should go to Fox. He'd fit in fine there.
What a terrible display by Morgan. He does need to be replaced. I was dying to hear a few words from Ziegler and he wouldn't let him get a word in edgewise. I won't be watching this trash anymore.
I wonder if Piers was a victim or an abuser in his past. He sure gave up all of his professional training (if he ever had any) to make sure Ziegler didn't get to say anything. His "open mind" as a reporter sure went bye bye for this botched interview. I agree that Paterno could have done more, probably would have if it would have been his son/grandson that got victimized.
Extremely disappointed at the "FOX LIKE" style of Morgan. I can only hope that this is somehow a desperate test to see if "outfoxing FOX" can improve your ratings. Those of us who are long time loyal CNN viewers now have nowhere to go but PBS. Even a test pattern would be better than this show. The viewing public deserves better.
Interesting that CNN didn't post the entire interview. Why not?? CNN was crazy to hire Sarah Ganin. She is her own biggest fan. Check out the facts of her PP.
HEY CNN and PIERS MORGAN! Are you people reading this stuff?
Time for change! Send the arrogant Brit back home to England where hopefully he can try to do some good for the most violent country in the EU and that's with a total gun ban. How's that workin' for ya Piers? You NEVER speak about those facts do you? You tell half truths and only if they suit you!
You are upset with Morgan is because he is bringing the subject about Patterno's guilt and he was guilty ,and I hope he rots in hell you hate Brits is all ! I dislike him too but this time he is right!and I am glad he got this moron Ziegler who I don't know who the heck he is anyway and let he rant like a sycho!
PIERS MORGAN ~ both judge and jury...and always right! Bollocks!
Out of the 105 comments here, less than a handful are pro-Piers, like Piers or agree with his style and content!
CNN...that must say something to you!
I am at least happy on this blog, that it is so far, not pre-screened!
CNN, on Twitter, just blocks folks and reports people as spam for either too many mentions or comments with which it doesn't agree. By allowing this blog to remain "open", CNN and readers here will get a genuine feel for what people really think. Censorship sucks and always has a hidden agenda!
Piers' basic thesis is that if you are fired, you are guilty.....thank god the Anglo-Saxon court system does not work that way! The Penn State Board basically panicked when the ambulance chasing media went wild (Piers, have a mirror handy?)
Piers is very unprofessional. He does not need to be deported, but CNN needs to replace him at this core prime time slot. I have also stopped watching his program.
Ziegler probably paid by the Paterno family to make Joe into Saint Joe. Joe was a GOD on the campus and in State College but he chose to protect the BRAND as did all the others. For this they are not to be praised but demonized as they continued on their merry way while the BEAST feasted. How can anyone have sympathy for these spineless snakes.
Well, another person who doesn't have a clue what he/she is talking about. shaker47 you do not have a clue about this situation.
Unfortunately, JCA, this is obviously another person who is eating just what the mainstream media is feeding them. This whole story has taught me to be very selective on what I believe. I have found that on almost anything I might have an opinion on, requires me to do extensive further research, before forming that opinion, rather than relying on what the talking heads are saying. They have SO many things wrong in regards to this case and unfortunately, John Zeigler couldn't keep his cool enough to present a portion of what I'm talking about. I think both behaved badly. It was painfully frustrating to watch. I would like more of the national news people to step up, like Bob Costas did, and admit that they might have voiced their opinions without knowing everything they should before spouting. I have enormous respect for that. Piers, on the other hand, just seemed VERY ill prepared for this interview and didn't bother to inform himself prior. The logic of "fired by the Board of Trustees=guilty of cover up" is naive, at best, and ignorant and closed minded at worst. I DID watch his show pretty regularly, but no more. Makes me sad because CNN was my go-to channel for news. (For the record, I find it deplorable that John Zeigler would give this animal the opportunity to be back in the headlines and have his voice heard. Has bothered me a great deal. But now I've decided that must be the only way that the media would pay attention to what he had to say....missed opportunity here).
This interview was an absolute disgrace. Zeigler is not trying to say Sandusky is innocent...he is trying to show that Paterno was railroaded and scapegoated by both the PSU BOT and a mainstream media that went for the storyline that would generate the most sensationalism and therefore lead to higher ratings, more papers sold, more web hits and in the end more advertising $$$. I encourage anybody interested in Zeigler's work that could not make out anything he tried to say last night because of Piers' unprofessional demeanor to go to framingpaterno.com. Very eye-opening...
Piers if you want to be a real journalist, you should do some research on this subject. You are in a position to bring to light some of the true injustices in this case. Do the right thing, and do your research. Yes we all need to think about the victims, but one of those victims is Joe Paterno. The man dedicated his whole life to just causes. He was wrongfully condemed by people like you. I challenge you, just research it. CNN should remove you from the air.
Joe should have and could have got involved in something as horriffic as this. This should not have been flipped to the side and ignored but it was and all the heavy weights on that campus and in the town, that knew about it, should have been concerned. They had an opportunity to do good but they chose to protect the money making machine. That makes them guilty as hell and they deserve to punished severly. They could have hired a PI to follow the monster sandusky around but when you main concern is money, trophies and more money you protect even a satanic brand.
Really scott! just like 99% of the cry babies that bothered to reply instead of give a serious discussion on the fall of Western civilisilation. Not any effort of where did we go wrong to have this story and the freakin massacres all year long. Can anyone stand up and suggest reality to the problem, Next!
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Piers,
You come off like a bumbling idiot in this piece. You clearly have no legitimate knowledge of this case. Maybe you should read the Freeh report, then read the Paterno report before you comment on the case. What many of you in the main stream media seem to forget is that; DPW failed to catch Sandusky, Child Youth Services failed to catch Sandusky, PA State Police, numberous child Psychologist, PSU police, Second Mile Execs...the list goes on and on. Countless people had WAY more knowledge of Sandusky than Paterno. They did nothing. Why? Do so reading and educate yourself before you bash Ziegler. You interviewing him hurts the victims a lot more than he does. You did an awful job. Hope you got the ratings you needed.
All this interview served to prove is that no one wants to talk about what happened. Even Paterno's family doesn't want to talk about, for fear even more damage will be been done... The issue that should have been discussed is that Paterno did not receive due process, and he's been blamed pretty much for anything and everything that happened. And the rather clumsy action of the NCAA, to delete Paterno and Penn State's entire record, as well as their championships, is a full blown and comical whitewash job. As for Morgan's interview, he was shrill, pigheaded, and showed he's capable of the most extraordinary stupidity. What could have been an interesting interview turned into a train wreck, thanks to Morgan. And Piers thought he was insulted over the Celebrity Apprentice comment? Well, Piers seems to be ready to run from any part of his part these days.
The point of this interview was to present FBI evidence that the alleged "shower incident" that brought down Paterno and the entire University at Penn State NEVER HAPPENED. So why in the hell did Piers Morgan turn it into a Sandusky show? Ratings. This was a disgusting interview. Piers Morgan should be fired. Bring back Larry King or another real professional who believes that true journalism is about uncovering the truth, not SENSATIONALISM!!
Why would anyone care what a foreign criminal tabloid gossip columnist thinks of serious issues? Being Donald Trump's butt-boy for a month on a scripted "reality" show" hardly proves one's intelligence. And having the lowest rated show on a flailing "Airport Waiting Area" network is not the pinnacle of journalistic success. If Zeigler wants to get the message out, he should do it during year-old reruns of "Jersey Shore". That show gets 40 TIMES the ratings and viewers as Peirs. It's pretty bad when you have to drag Sara Ganim into the show for "gravitas".
Why do people watch this Pierce guy? He seems to be clueless about the topics he "reports" on and is extremely biased in his opinions. Is he even an American citizen?
Wow, Mr. Morgan. You are a rude, overbearing blowhard. LISTEN sometimes. Won't waste my time watching you screech at people again.
It would be nice ,if when you do an interview, you actually allowed the person to talk. Just because Mr. Zieglar doesn't share your point of view on the Penn State matter, is not a good reason to shout him down. Here in America, we like to hear other peoples ideas(at least I like to think most of us do). If you continue to treat your guests the way you have been, I for one will not be watching.
I can't believe is a bunch of morons in this site talking about Paterno not have nothing to do with the whole thing of the guy molesting the children he was a complice when you know the crime and you keep shut ,you are part of the crime ,he was part of the crime and I hope he is rotten in hell,he put his career and the football team up over the crime of molesting and raping children,he is guilty as the rapist! if he had the decency of speak up in behalf of the victims ,many children will not go thru what they went ,this morons who don't accept this guys guiltiness are beyond the sports matter ,for them sports are over a child safety and is wrong and SAD! I personally dislike Piers Morgan I dislike him a lot ,but that not have nothing to do against Paterno, he is a Tv journalist that I dislike him indeed! and by the way John Ziegler who? that Piers didn't won the Aprentice? you don't have to be smart if Arcenio won (he is not that smart) is luck just because he recruit more money for his charity that is not being smart at all! Ziegler is a moron like the morons here who are upset about Paterno, once again I hope he rotts in hell!
Maria, Have you bothered to educate yourself on the subject other that what you hear the mainstream media saying? If you have, I don't see how you can come to the conclusions that you obviously have. Read the Freeh report, then read the Paterno report. It might not make you see things differently, but at least then you can make some educated observations and comments.
It's about time someone exposed the media for what it is. Piers Morgan is hardly a journalist. He's a glorified Jerry Springer who took over for Larry King. He is a poor replacement and has no business being on CNN. What's next Ryan Seacrest conducting interviews with world leaders?
test?
I like Piers Morgan, esp. over that kiss-behind Larry King who would smile and kiss Charles Manson.
I thought you were dead along with the Beaver, Wally, Lumpy, June and What's his name. I like Morgan too but he does have a tendency to not allow people to finish speaking. Not like Larry but like Bill O'Riley. I don't care for people that insist on BUTTING in even though they agree with my way of thinking. My philosophy is listen and learn.
After watching this interview (WOW what a joke) I've come to the conclusion Nancy NoGrace and Prissy Morgan are the same person lol.I stopped watching cnn and all the other network sensationalism journalist over a year ago.I got rid of my cable and started going to the AP site and/or Pbs this way if i want to know something i don't need to depend on a bunch of ignorant journalist opinion who are about as smart as a box of rocks(putting my money on the box of rocks to be smarter)
Is this the kinda crap people watch on T.V.?this was hands down and by far one of the worst shows i have ever seen. (thats saying something considering all the "B" rate sci-fi movies I have seen lol)
Piers Morgan needs to be taken off the air or hired as a replacement for Jerry Springer if he has a need to entertain. I feel he is a disgrace to honest journalism and a detriment to CNN. He was undoubtedly unprepared for the Ziegler interview and was obviously afraid to hear Ziegler's point of view because he had no intelligent or informed response. I will not watch this show as long as Piers is on it. Do the viewers and the network a favor ... hire someone who is intelligent and knows how to interview.
Pretty weak interview tactics, Piers. The point is to hear what your guest has to say. By screaming about how "he must have known" proves nothing; you are merely committing hindsight bias.
Piers Morgan had no idea why John Ziegler was even there. He turned it into an interview on Sandusky when it was an interview on Joe Paterno who never had a chance to speak after he was vilified by the media. Morgan is a bully and thinks he is a real "tough" guy not even giving Ziegler a chance to state the REASON for the interview. Do some reading Morgan and KNOW what the subject is about before scheduling someone to appear on your show. You looked like exactly what you are – a stupid, uninformed ass.
Mr Morgan, you are a stupid egotistical bitter old man. CNN--wake up!!!!!!!! Here is the proof that you were all wrong, and your network could be the FIRST to report the TRUTH for a change.
Most everyone else has already covered how Piers was clueless, so no need to cover that. But what I don't understand about all these "do gooders", especially Sarah Ganim, how do you learn as a society to protect our kids if we don't know what really happened, the real truth? Sticking our heads in the sand is going to allow us to protect our children better? That has really worked in those states where the schools can't teach birth control. Once the truth comes out and if Joe is culpable, then he deserves to burn in hell. But everything points to him being duped like the rest of the community. So why is everyone OK with him and PSU getting punished when it appears they are likely innocent. Piers, you are a disgrace as a journalist. The best line "Because the BOT fired Joe Paterno, he is guilty of covering up for Sandusky" What a moron. I guess he has never heard of a BOT of a company or university having arterial motives. Disgraceful.
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John Ziegler is a dummy! Joe Paterno was no leader in fact he was a coward.Piers you handle this interview very well. I will not watch this, I can only hope that everyone else does the same.
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