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Marc Lamont Hill: "I've seen enough of George Zimmerman to know he's not brilliant...I think [he] believes the story that he's telling"
With the fate of George Zimmerman now in the hands of six Florida women, on Friday evening "Piers Morgan Live" invited a collection of legal experts and media analysts, as well as a live audience, to debate and discuss the individual elements and specific pieces of information which will ultimately factor into the final decision.
After three hours spent mulling over evidence and testimony, on Friday afternoon the jury suspended deliberations, with plans to resume at 9:00 a.m. on Saturday. According to Judge Alex Ferrer, the man who's fate they will decide has been rather convincing in sharing his side of the events:
"When he tells the story, for him to have made it up, he made it up immediately after the shooting, within seconds of a witness coming out from the apartment, he would have to be brilliant," said Ferrer, as a live audience hung on every word. "He doesn't know who watched, he doesn't know if anybody videotaped, he doesn't know what forensic evidence they're going to find on the floor. And yet, the story he told, with minor inconsistencies, does coincide with the physical evidence, in almost every material way."
Seated two spots to Ferrer's left, Marc Lamont Hill wasn't able to resist delivering a little zinger:
"And I've seen enough of George Zimmerman to know he's not brilliant," quipped the HuffPost Live co-host, as applause trickled throughout the studio. "I think what it is, is that George Zimmerman believes the story that he's telling, and that's why this is complex. I think initially we wanted a very flat, simple, easy story, which was this crazy racist, saw a Black kid, and decided to go on a killing spree. And I don't think that's true, I don't think that's the case at all."
Meanwhile, joining the program live via satellite, jury expert Jo-Ellan Dimitrius touched upon Zimmerman's personal focus on crime within his community, suggesting he failed to follow the rules of his position:
"Piers, I can't help but think that these jurors are going back and looking at the perspective of the fact that as a neighborhood watch commander he is taught to observe, report, and be a good witness."
Watch the rest of clip as defense attorney Jayne Weintraub adds her professional insight in explaining the exact specifications required to accurately claim self defense, and for the next edition of "Piers Morgan Live," watch CNN every night at 9.
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I am ashamed to be a White woman this morning, and I am disgusted by arrogance and self-righteousness of the White defense attorneys. They are a disgrace to my race. Legal "experts" on tv say this is the "best justice system in the world" and that simply isn't true any more. This system was written by White men, years ago, and we HAVE to undo and redo their words.
I agree with you. I was born in 1923 to white immigrant parents from Central Europe. It wasn't until WWII when I had the opportunity to meet and befriend African Americans. What I couldn't understand but what they did is that we were forbidden to socialize in public in the US. Crisscrossing the county from East to West and North to South I was able to
observe and study the actions and feelings between the two races. Needless to say I was appalled by the treatment the blacks received in the Southern States. I was encouraged by the Civil Rights movement after the war. I could see it was a bit late for the adults, but I saw this wonderful opportunity for the young with education.
Then I ;noticed the opponents fo the movement although accepted the law with innuendoes and continued to keep racism alive and flourishing. Like you I too have felt many times ashamed and sad that I was born white and American,
Especially in foreign countries where people of other cultures and races couldn't understand whey the United States being a "free" country wouldn't allow many of its citizens be free. The justice system particularly the courts need vast overhauling particularly the Jury System. I have yet to see a "Jury of Peers" sit in any court. A peer is one equal to the defendant. None of those white women could in my opinion were equal of the defendant.
Having been on the receiving end of a black attack on two occasions, you bleeding hearts will get no sympathy out of me. They are animals and should be dealt with as such. And in this case, was.
We agree, Monica, I'm ashamed you're a white woman, too.
Thank you, Monica. I'm not saying it because I am black. Had the roles been reversed, I would believe the black was wrong. Wrong is wrong, black or white. I love all races, I just don't like some of the racial and dumb stuff they say. Some of the things people say are hurtful to our race and proves what we perceive to be true, is true. I love you, Monica.
This program was a reflection of what occurred when the 9-1-1 tape was played for the Martin Family. It started with different opinions yet as it developed MOST were swayed, persuaded to believe Zimmerman deserves "some kind of punishment". People . . . where does this leave our right for defending our lives or that of others? This panel tonight and the message being resonated is "if you are in a situation where your life is threaten or the possibility of bodily harm, you better find another option other than self-defense because even if you are acquitted, your life will be destroyed.
Piers has disappointed me with this one-sided program. Everyone seems to be reflecting sympathy for Trayvon because he was 17 and black (and supposedly innocent). Everyone is "filling in the gaps" and somehow wanting justice for Trayvon at the cost of another life (Zimmerman's). Let's be reasonable. Zimmerman was arrested ONLY because of Crump, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton who pressured politicians to make an arrest.
What do we do with self-defense? Do we throw it out the window?
First of all, the self defense began when Zimmerman stalked him. He had a right to defend himself, too. Thank you very much!
Monica, get yourself made dictator and change our laws. Even a battered wife followed by her husband might well should wait until he grabs her and hits her once before whipping out her gun from a hidden holster and blasting. Stalking is not clearly cause to attack physically even if occurring first.
This program was a reflection of what occurred when the 9-1-1 tape was played for the Martin Family. It started with different opinions yet as it developed MOST were swayed, persuaded to believe Zimmerman deserves "some kind of punishment". People . . . where does this leave our right for defending our lives or that of others? This panel tonight and the message being resonated is "if you are in a situation where your life is threaten or the possibility of bodily harm, you better find another option other than self-defense because even if you are acquitted, your life will be destroyed.
Piers has disappointed me with this one-sided program. Everyone seems to be reflecting sympathy for Trayvon because he was 17 and black (and supposedly innocent). Everyone is "filling in the gaps" and somehow wanting justice for Trayvon at the cost of another life (Zimmerman's). Let's be reasonable. Zimmerman was arrested ONLY because of Crump, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton who pressured politicians to make an arrest.
What do we do with self-defense? Do we throw it out the window?
Piers can't stand guns, can't stand American culture, and has been clamoring for a conviction from day one based on no facts or evidence and total emotion. He's like the typical yuppie liberal who thinks and acts with emotional reasoning like all liberals do.
Your statement is indicative of the Right Wing Apartied mentality that helps to promote the continued murder of innocent children. You are a bigot and the cut from the same murderous cloth as your KKK Family Brotherhood. May you all rot in hell along with Zimmerman.
MROD1156, I agree with having a self defense law because anyone feeling the threat of being harm should have the right to defend himself, however, when someone stalks you and confront you, self defense should be thrown out the door. Look at this story, http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/14988044-florida-teen-murdered-over-music-jordan-davis. This is awful. I wonder how many people believes he is justified.
Mrod1156 is right to not show a real name in his comment. Trayvon is supposedly innocent? you can make such a statement? if Zimmerman preceived he was in imminent peril and can kill under the Law, Trayvom had a right to preceive he was in danger, and had a right to kick his Ass
Only if Zimmerman attacked him. You can't attack someone or hit them because they're creepy. And why didn't he run home? How is that supposed to happen? He's got a big lead, he's athletic, he's 75 yards from home, doesn't have to cross Zimmerman's path again UNLESS he circles back to the "T" at the intersection of the 2 sidewalks. So HOW does he even come into any contact with Zimmerman? Unless Trayvon WANTED to confront him.
Right on, Joe. None of the "Trayvon was just an innocent child with skittles" folks want to see that he could have kept on walking home. He was so close. But, no. He was most likely bored from being "stuck" up in Sanford because of his school suspension. If he perceived he was being trailed, then he either should have gotten home quickly and/or called 911. Instead he took an opportunity to hide out and confront GZ. He created the altercation – even if GZ was wandering around the area. There was nothing illegal with that. TM SHOULD HAVE GONE HOME, unless, of course, he wanted to start trouble.
What's most obvious is even AFTER the trial everyone is still guessing as to what happened. If that's not "reasonable doubt" then the concept doesn't exist.
Very interesting that you can make these assertions about Treyvon being wrong, I just wonder if instead he was female with blond hair and blue eyes and Creepy ass Z George stalked her down and shot her after she tried to defend her self. Ummm.... now the table is turned ????? Or lets go one deeper.... what if a Black man was on watch in his community and approached a George Zimmerman.... don't kid you self to think that the story would have played out the way this did.... i know it must be impossible but be honest...... the racial hate in this country will never die...
you are just making up random scenarios that never happened and probably would never play out the way you like because they have nothing to do with what actually happened. It doesn't make any sense to wonder if he was a blonde woman, that would be a completely different situation and probably would have ended without any violence. It's not a racist thing at all. Trayvon had bruises on his knuckles and George had bruises on his face. The only possible explanation is that martin attacked george. That is self defense. It has nothing to do with black people.
The other "fact" that has been omitted that nobody seems to care to talk about is the reality of Trayvon Martin. The kid was a punk wannabe "gangsta" instead he's being called a "child" which he was anything but.
Just google "trayvon martin text messages", and check out the messages and the pics. Including him holding a gun.
Joe, why don't you Google George Zimmerman's criminal charges and he only escaped them because his faddy was a former judge. Also, I presume you believe he and his wife is TOTALLY innocent for the perjury charges, too, huh.
All of these people are totallly speculating. You can't put someone in prison for 30 years based on speculation.
joe
you have so much hate agaist TM and a host of Young black men. TM is not on trial for killing Gz
Tm did not kill Gz, why do you take it out on the President of the US? You still can't believe/accept the fact
that he won(twice)? If I have a gun I will not be calling for help. Your Gz is a cold blooded calculated killer,
cop wanno be and a racist sob like you, that can't defend himself without a gun.You have to understand that blacks and black boys are here to stay, like it or not. May God save your soul. All black kids are not criminals.
This had nothing to do with black people. Stop putting your racial bias into this.
Listen to these racists. I can't believe this. Oh gee, if Trayvon did it he would've been arrested. Let's whip up a few riots here shall we? Why don't you all just run out of the studio and start setting fires? What's the matter with you people?
Morgan runs the worst interviews I have ever seen. Tonight's panel of racist blacks, the ignorant comments, the obvious bias, is just a culmination of the crap aired on his show. And Morgan, of course, is the riotous instigator.
I never thought I'd ever agree with Lamont Hill on anything, until now. Nobody on this show has a clue. They all WANT Zimmerman convicted but you don't have the PROOF. If the PROOF was there I'd be right there with you, but it ISN"T.
Just listen to yourselves. Well I think, or What I think happened, or If only Zimmerman had done this or that, or maybe Zimmerman did this or maybe Trayvon did that. Blah, blah, blah. NOBODY KNOWS FOR SURE EVEN NOW.
Racial profile is being defined by morons at this very moment. Dang, no wonder Obama is President. These are the types of idiots that voted for him! Fact is the numerous burglaries in the neighborhood were done by young blacks. Duh.
Everyone on that stage with Piers voted for Obama. If I were on that jury they could never convince me to convict him. There just isn't any evidence to support a conviction. If he's convicted then it becomes illegal to defend yourself, especially if you're attacked by a young black male.
Piers,
How many times are you going to keep saying you can't just shoot an unarmed teenager walking home with his skittles?
Nobody did that and you CAN'T do that. So quit saying that.
If you're attacked by said unarmed teenager and he's trying to kill you or says he going to kill you as he bashes your face in are you supposed to just lay there and let him do it? It sounds to me like you think you should lay there and get paralyzed, or die. What's up with that. Quit making out like Trayvon was a innocent little tyke. The young man liked to fight, and apparently did a lot of it, and liked to injure people. Your whole show is a sham.
Your turn is coming to defend yourself. When it happens remember where you stand now.
One more thing, people are sick and tired of black teenagers committing crimes. You people act as if there is no reason to be concerned about young black males you don't know and you've never seen before wandering around their neighborhood. Who are you people kidding?
Black teenagers are beating up people all over the country, it's like the new national pastime in the larger cities. It's called the knockout game or polar bear hunting.
George Zimmerman's brother is a great spokesperson. He defines dignity and intelligence. The only thing George Zimmerman is guilty of is poor judgement and defending himself. I am so impressed that the American Justice System stood its ground!
Ditto.
I don't think Marc Lamont Hill has the right to suggest George Zimmerman is not intelligent. Who made Mr. Hill the measure for meaningful intelligence? He's not smart enough to know he's not that smart!
Watching, listening to the trial and not being an arm chair lawyer or judge, that being said, I believe that Zimmerman lied each time he retold his version of what happened. Fox News convinced their viewers that such lies were random
comments. Fox News has a way with semantics.
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