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July 29th, 2013
11:36 PM ET

Ken Hanson defends George Zimmerman owning another gun: "We'll sleep soundly"

With Piers Morgan back in his regular chair after a week of guest host's aptly filling in, tonight the British television presenter fired up his trademark interview segment, inviting Ken Hanson to have a seat on "The Grill."

The Legal Chair of the Buckeye Firearms Foundation, Hanson has been instrumental in raising funds that will enable George Zimmerman to purchase a gun.

Suggesting the recently acquitted neighbor watchman is not someone who should be encouraged to own a firearm, Morgan asked Hanson how'd he feel if history hypothetically repeated itself, and the late Trayvon Martin's older brother was to one day engage in an altercation with Zimmerman, only to end succumbing to the same fate:

"Well, if we're the ones that supplied the gun, and again remember, we provided money, not a gun," Hanson reminded the host. "But if someone is on top of Mr. Zimmerman, again repeatedly bashing his head into the concrete, and he acts in self defense, that's incredible bad luck he found himself in that situation twice. But we'll sleep soundly."

Still uncertain of Zimmerman's motives, Morgan continued to press his guest:

"At what point does he have to take responsibility for pursuing, some would say stalking, unarmed teenagers who are walking home?"

Using the law to support his argument, Hanson accurately stated that Zimmerman is an innocent man:

"Two different levels of government review have found no fault with Mr. Zimmerman's actions," Hanson noted. "We can go through all the hypotheticals you'd like to go through, what it comes down to is that he's gone through a government review."

Joining the program live via satellite, Hanson found fault with how strongly Americans felt nationwide about this case in particular, while ignoring so many others:

"The problem is, when we go out and help The Pink Pistols - a gay, lesbian , bisexual transgender group, who's being denied their gun rights, when we go up to a young African-American male in Cleveland who was wearing a hoodie who acted in self-defense," he detailed. "We go to a Cleveland legislator in the Ohio General Assembly, when we're acting on behalf of those people it's not a problem, it's only in this case, when the villagers have gone out with the torches and pitchforks that it somehow becomes a problem. This is not an issue of race, it's an issue of self defense law."

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  1. scdrake

    Lauren Green did it for Reza Aslan and Piers Morgan did it for Ken Hanson.
    Piers doesn't understand the Zimmerman trial.


    July 29, 2013 at 11:39 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • marla

      spot on

      July 30, 2013 at 12:13 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • incady

      Piers Morgan is a jerk. Ken Hanson was trying to be reasonable, and all Piers did was troll him. What a total jerk.

      July 30, 2013 at 3:38 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • cassandra

        Piers Morgan is the most IRRESPONSIBLE over paid shock jock and hypocrite imaginable.

        July 30, 2013 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • Robin Hood

        Someone please get Morgan a one way ticket back to London

        July 30, 2013 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • tobejoev

        Once again Piers Morgan is trying his hardest to trip up one of his guests. Zimmerman hasn't got his gun back because it was evidence and it has a process to go through before released. Idiot Morgan and all the race baiters have no truth to stand on. They keep talking about "if". If doesn't exist. They are trying to limit a mans rights that was found to be not guilty and not to be a racist. He still has his Conceal Carry permit because he is innocent. To Piers Morgan. We don't persecute innocent people. You have absence of malice on your side so you have the right to be stupid and irresponsible but only up to the point of when your actions effects a person in a negative way. I hope the Zimmerman family goes after the so called news media that tried him before the courts did. If I was in Zimmermans position I would join the NRA, NAGR and the USCCA. They have insurance and funds to help those of us who defend ourselves and are arrested because of a mob mentality. I hope that Zimmerman goes through some training and through some psychiatric help. Even cops go through it when they have to shoot another human being. One more thing Piers, Stop trying to create racial tension where there is very little. If our young aren't given the tools needed to live an honest life they will get their knowledge from gangs and criminals.

        August 1, 2013 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
    • Adam

      Respectively Mr. Morgan,

      The UK has more violent crime rate than the United States of America.

      “Overall, 5.4 million crimes were recorded in the UK in 2007 — more than 10 a minute — second only to Sweden. . . . It means there are over 2,000 crimes recorded per 100,000 population in the UK, making it the most violent place in Europe.”

      Great Britain’s crime rate is nearly four times that of the United States. “By comparison, America has an estimated rate of 466 violent crimes per 100,000 population."

      Please Mr. Morgan, check your facts versus opinions.

      July 31, 2013 at 12:38 am | Report abuse | Reply
      • tobejoev

        What Piers ( the man without a country) Morgan uses is the drop in "gun violence". Like other violence isn't as bad. The criminals don't need guns. The population is defenseless. They use knives and bats or pipes. What is the average citizen suppose to do? Tell the criminal to wait before they attack because you are waiting for a " bobby". Your own country disowned you because you were found to be very dishonest. We don't want you here either. So take a hint and go where you are wanted.

        August 1, 2013 at 11:35 am | Report abuse |
    • Adam

      Mr. Morgan,

      I don't find the same numbers of there being 39 murders in 2011 that Mr. Piers Morgan claims.

      Gun Murders in England, Scotland and Wales 2011/12 There were 640 Murders / Homicides in Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) in 2011/12 (10.43 per million population) Of these 640 Murders / Homicides, 44 involved a gun or firearm as the main weapon. Gun murders in Britain in 2011/12 represent 6% of the murder cases, (0.72 gun homicides per million population).

      Population of Britain (combined England, Scotland and Wales) in last census 2011 = 61,370,912
      see tables below for number of murders and gun murders in England, Wales and Scotland per year from 2001 to 2012

      UK Source:

      How is Mr. Morgan portray only 39 murders when the numbers reported by the UK are different?

      Please correct your errors.

      July 31, 2013 at 12:48 am | Report abuse | Reply
  2. max

    I could list all the names you called ever one on your show and more, but it take to long, but that is what you sounded like tonight. You are so backward I clearly see why you are from England. did you not understand what he had done for other, and why he had done this. still the black man that killed a white 16 year old teen was never talked about. so this has to be to fan the hate that is there with some. shame on you just shame on you. may God not for give you for this.

    July 29, 2013 at 11:50 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  3. David

    Piers needs to return to England. We are free here Mr. Morgan, and we fought to be free of England and its' laws. We did not invite you here, and you are free to leave. But, I suppose you will choose to wait, as you enjoy the riches of this nation, all the while disrespecting it.

    July 30, 2013 at 12:37 am | Report abuse | Reply
  4. Teddy

    Is Piers Morgan ignorant or is he so idealistically blinded that he cannot fathom that the US is a "law abiding nation?" His contempt and ignorance of the court decision is treasonous. I cannot stand listening to him berate people with opinions that differ from his. He is a childish wimp. I have not listened to his program for over a year and tonight I decided to give him another try. His interogation of Ken Hanson was sickening.....goodbye Piers...and remember....this IS AMERICA not England. Go back home if you admire that nation so much.

    July 30, 2013 at 12:43 am | Report abuse | Reply
  5. Debi Hearn

    I'm a 60 year old women that lives alone and have never owed a gun! I can't believe I'm in the minority!

    July 30, 2013 at 12:45 am | Report abuse | Reply
  6. GrannieAnnie

    One question I have never heard addressed is exactly when did George Zimmerman remove his gun from his holster. We know he didn't do it when he was allegedly laying on his back in the grass with Trayvon sitting on top of him. So when? It sure seems to me that it would be a very important point.

    By the way, I very much enjoy your show. In response to "Teddy", I think we need to be able to handle some intelligent scrutiny.

    July 30, 2013 at 12:56 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Teddy

      @GrannieAnnie.....a little "intelligence" from Piers is all that I ask. But he is like a little cry baby that didn't get his way. Ken Hanson was the one who put Piers "in his place" after each stupid argument that Piers made. Piers could not even admit that his logic was flawed when destroyed by Hanson. Piers just pouted like a baby. He is not a worthy host to have replaced Larry King. King had class. Piers has pomp.

      July 30, 2013 at 4:33 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Robin Hood

      Grannie Annie; You Definitely aren't in the real world. You need to become an American and leave England laws in England. Wake up sweet heart, it is people like Morgan that is trying to take away your rights.

      July 30, 2013 at 11:41 am | Report abuse | Reply
  7. max

    The last part where Morgan said words fail me to.
    I would have said to Mr. Morgan your brain is what is failing you not your words. If you can not see that this man’s life and his family, is now in danger for what you and other like you have done. to get people to vote to ban guns.
    Why do you some how think Trayon family is in need to be protected. And no one gets your point Mr. Morgan. To say that the Trayon family, would have two sons that would go out and attack and try to kill Zimmerman is sad. you think so low of there family. To keep asking if Zimmerman had some kind of duty to let Trayon beat him to death. Is proof you have air between your ears, is the problem. To say the USA is like any other country you just name, is kind of sad. German almost trash your country, and do you know the history of the other two countries? and who they were and what they did to say that? We can sent you and Mr. Obama a history book, and you may wish to read it with him, to understand what we are, and who we are. We save you families bacon. But may be we should have stay out of it. Where would you be than? I fear you wouldn’t be here. So have your nice little show here in the USA, enjoy your freedom. That you don’t get taxes to the poor house. And you have the right to save your life, if some one tries to take it. But could you say just back off a little on the USA hate and blame stuff?

    July 30, 2013 at 12:57 am | Report abuse | Reply
  8. bennytopa

    Reblogged this on Bennytopa's Mirror.

    July 30, 2013 at 12:58 am | Report abuse | Reply
  9. TKList

    Why does this thing not work?

    July 30, 2013 at 6:34 am | Report abuse | Reply
  10. TKList

    The sooner CNN replaces Piers Morgan the better.

    July 30, 2013 at 6:38 am | Report abuse | Reply
  11. TKList

    The most mind boggling worthless nonsense ever put on a news channel.

    July 30, 2013 at 6:39 am | Report abuse | Reply
  12. fromOhio

    One point Mr. Hanson did not make is that Buckeye Firearms started the fundraiser AFTER the DOJ decided not to release the evidence from the trial as required by Florida law. Prior to the verdict, BFA did not comment on the case instead letting the justice system run its course.

    July 30, 2013 at 7:33 am | Report abuse | Reply
  13. cdbrad

    Piers Morgan is a jerk. Ken Hanson was trying to be reasonable, and all Piers did was troll him. What a total jerk.

    July 30, 2013 at 7:59 am | Report abuse | Reply
  14. nelbert

    It is such a pleasure to continually see Piers Morgan exposed for the mindless buffoon he is.
    Well done, Mr. Hanson.
    And Mr. Morgan? Weren't you supposed to be back in the UK by now?

    July 30, 2013 at 8:18 am | Report abuse | Reply

    What the heck piers your rateings going down.You are keeping this racial thing going and gioing .I think the only reason your saying what you are is because you are worried and had pressure bye someone . you cant honestly believe george does not need a gun now .come on you said you respect the jury seems like you dont .I use to like you now forget it and iI am sure you will lose your show there ,in time. HAVE SOME CLASS LIKE LARRY DID .PLEASE COME BACK LARRY

    July 30, 2013 at 9:57 am | Report abuse | Reply
  16. MrBill

    Bravo to Mr. Hanson. He was courteous and well prepared. Unfortunately for Mr. Morgan he appeared, once again, to enter a battle of wits unarmed.

    July 30, 2013 at 10:11 am | Report abuse | Reply
  17. Ohio Gun Owner

    The sadest part of this whole Zimmerman case is that I now have heard two interviews by Mr. Morgan and that is time I will never be able to get back from being wasted.

    I see 90% of the people posted can't stand this guy and I'm with all of you on that one but sadly the network sees how he outrages everyone and that's a hit to them.

    In Short... YANK HIS VISA and send his tea sipping Queen Loven Butt BACK to England where he belongs!

    July 30, 2013 at 10:47 am | Report abuse | Reply
  18. dennis walker

    Ken finally got me to watch Morgan's show. Morgan is a smooth talking head and Ken did more than hold his own with the transplanted Brit. If he doesn't like the Second Amendment protections of America, he should go back to merry old England and live under the monarchy that we had to defeat in two wars to be rid if! Way to go Ken!

    July 30, 2013 at 12:30 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  19. Kevin

    Awesome job Ken! Stayed cool and kept to the facts.

    July 30, 2013 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  20. surfsock1

    Great debate. Where is the liberal outrage against Darnesha Barry of Henrico, VA?

    July 30, 2013 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  21. Santana

    Well, the well known media & some government representatives started the problem with this verdict and disapproved their own laws, so it became legal to people to smash it down, and turn it into racism because they have been told so. Some people just believe what they watch and read, that is how you create a mess with followers as a brilliant Sheppard.

    July 30, 2013 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  22. Delvia Logan

    Thank you for standing up to the "gentleman" from the Buckeye Firearms Foundation. George Zimmerman is a racist and his actions to the Martin family are sickening. I think that a boycott of Florida's economic and tourism endeavors should be put in place as a punishment for the "stand your ground laws". Did Zimmerman really help the family in the overturned SUV?

    Zimmerman will kill another minority person again and the people of this foundation will support him again. Why is America and its citizens getting so stupid and irresponsible.

    July 30, 2013 at 7:11 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    • Teddy

      Nothing said above about Zimmerman can be substantiated intelligently. GZ racist? No evidence. GZ actions against family? No evidence. GZ will kill again? On what precidence can you base such an allegation? It is clearly apparent which "citizens are stupid and irresponsible."

      July 31, 2013 at 4:20 am | Report abuse | Reply
  23. IN OHIO

    it seams to me that CNN is failing to report on the news that George Zimmerman is not a convicted murderer , he was found NOT GUILTY !!! All he did was defended himself from an attacker , a 17 year old man , who in my oppion , was trying to kill him . I believe in that situation he had a right to defend his life by any means possible , if so be it , by taking someone elses !! CNN needs to get out here in home town USA and see what the rest of us think about the right of self defence , you would be supprised !! You have to over look Piers Morgan He"s English , and has mistaken us all for English subjects . Thank GOD WE ARE NOT !!!!!!!!!

    July 30, 2013 at 8:11 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  24. greta

    Pierse Morgan, time to get back on the boat and head for England. Makes me wonder, how you ever got the job with CNN? Apparently, you know very little about the USA.
    Where on earth did you get the idea that Trayvon Martin was a mere "boy child" and not a thug? Obviously, from his mama, right? Perhaps you should delve a little further into Trayvon's past, before you give such a one sided opinion.
    I'm so in favor of the "not guilty" verdict for George Zimmerman! Way to go Ken, you truly won this debate. Racism, and hate is much more obvious among the black people, than the whites or hispanics. One only has to listen to the hate spewed between the lines from from the so called Reverend Jesse James. SHAME!!

    July 30, 2013 at 9:17 pm | Report abuse | Reply
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  26. ArmedPariots

    Piers is nothing but a baiter and a troll.
    He says things to p4ss people off to get a rise to get ratings.
    Not even Piers believes the stupid sh4t he says....

    July 31, 2013 at 12:15 am | Report abuse | Reply
  27. Adam

    The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.

    The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:
    The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.

    It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.

    The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.

    It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in Germany and France.

    But it is the naming of Britain as the most violent country in the EU that is most shocking. The analysis is based on the number of crimes per 100,000 residents. In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677.

    The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, Australia 92 and South Africa 1,609.

    Source: “The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S. “

    July 31, 2013 at 1:10 am | Report abuse | Reply
  28. mikadocat

    CNN and HLN bashing Zimmerman has been a goldmine for them, best ratings they have had in some time. Justice will be them paying every dime of the profits in lawsuits.

    July 31, 2013 at 10:15 am | Report abuse | Reply
  29. Elizabeth Nolan

    Piers Morgan is an Irishman, despite his assumed English accent. He's from Limerick, Ireland, the most drug ridden, lawless town in Ireland. Irish people avoid it like Americans avoid Harlem, the Bronx, and such. The English kicked him out of England and shudder at the thought of his return. Who else but CNN would employ him in this country?

    July 31, 2013 at 10:44 am | Report abuse | Reply
    • Adam

      Mr Morgan is a former "tabloid gossip writer" associated with Rupert Murdoch. He has published false photographs in his past.

      In 1989, Morgan joined The Sun as entertainment editor. There he wrote and edited a gossip column. Morgan himself was often featured alongside celebrities in his column. His career in media, however, really took off in 1994 when Rupert Murdoch selected him to be the new editor of the weekly tabloid News of the World.

      He opposed Britain's involvement in the Iraqi war and published articles criticizing the British government, including Prime Minister Tony Blair. The desire to get the scoop at any cost got The Mirror in trouble on a number of occasions. Model Naomi Campbell won her case against the paper for invasion of privacy.

      Morgan lost the top post at The Mirror over different story in 2004. He ran photographs that reportedly showed British soldiers abusing Iraqi prisoners, but the images later proved to be false. Rather than slinking away in a cloud of scandal, Morgan took his firing as a chance to recreate himself as a media personality.

      July 31, 2013 at 11:13 am | Report abuse | Reply
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