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October 2nd, 2013
02:18 PM ET

"Piers Morgan Live, Rewind": Bill Kristol, Marc Lamont Hill, Carol Roth, Grover Norquist, and Jesse Ventura on "Shutdown Showdown"

Whether you fell asleep early, stayed out too late, or simply want to watch it again, we realize it's not always possible to get your entire "Piers Morgan Live" fix from television. As an answer to this, we offer the below labor of love – "Piers Morgan Live, Rewind" – dedicated and designed to getting you caught up and connected to the conversation.

  • Bill Kristol spars with Marc Lamont Hill on the government shutdown

With the nation nearly 24 hours into a government shutdown, on Tuesday Piers Morgan invited a live audience, and an informed and opinionated collection of guests to offer their insights and inquiries on the first such stoppage in nearly two decades.

"My position is if they engineered a shutdown they shouldn't be paid," insisted Marc Lamont Hill, referring primarily to Congress.

Offering an opposing viewpoint, Bill Kristol called for less blame being placed on Republicans, and more fingers to be pointed at Barack Obama and his party:

"There's a government shutdown, and why is there a government shutdown? Because the Democratic Senate and President Obama will not accept two propositions: that the individual mandate should be delayed for a year even though the exchanges have opened in total chaos today," said the neoconservative political analyst and commentator. "And the second one, the congressmen should abide by the same rules as everyone else that goes into the exchanges. Those are such unreasonable demands that the President of the United States can't even negotiate with the Speaker about it?"

Hill, a Columbia University professor and co-host of HuffPost Live, saw it differently:

"First of all, you're overstating the little calamity at the exchanges, and second, this is a major piece of legislation, perhaps the most significant piece of legislation in 50 years. It's not uncommon that there might be a slightly long line."

Watch the rest of the clip, as Kristol and Lamont Hill continue their debate over those most to blame for the current government shutdown.

  • Carol Roth and Grover Norquist debate the government shutdown

Amidst a government shutdown that has served to polarize – and paralyze – the nation, on Tuesday evening "Piers Morgan Live" welcomed Carol Roth and Grover Norquist, asking each to analyze the reasoning and repercussions behind such a situation.

"We have these government officials that we have elected to represent us. And for some reason they think that we work for them, instead of vice versa. So as important as the national stage is, I'm more concerned first and foremost about how they are treating the American people, the hardworking people on Main Street," said Roth, an author and CNBC television personality. "If we don't raise that debt ceiling, well then you know what ends up happening, is that we end up in a situation where we could potentially default on our debt and that becomes a big problem in the world stage because they are the ones that are currently funding us."

Norquist meanwhile, suggested that the current economical plight of the United States differs from previous scenarios, largely due to the political cycle in which it falls:

"What the Democrats have to keep in mind is Obama was willing to compromise in 2011 because he was up for election. He agreed to cut $2.5 trillion in spending that the Republicans insisted on we got the sequester. Fast forward, he's passed his election," said the founder and president of Americans for Tax Reform. "The Democrats are now going to turn around and vote not to keep the Veterans Affairs open. Not to keep the national parks open and not to keep the DC open. They're accumulating votes that are going to cost them senate sits and Obama is not looking out after their interest. He's already passed his election."

  • Jesse Ventura calls for a revolution

With a highly enthused live audience clinging to every word, on Tuesday night Jesse Ventura offered his assessment of the ongoing government shutdown:

"I guess my question would be since the government shut down that should mean we shouldn't have to pay any taxes, right. Yet, it's not going to work that way is it," asked the former Governor of Minnesota. "Even though they're not working, we're still going to be paying. I think it's time for a revolt in this country. I've been advocating a revolution for years now. Revolutions don't have to be violent, but we need one and I would tell everybody here: vote them all out of office and, wait, don't vote in a new Democrat or Republican, vote for anyone but Democrats and Republicans."

Watch the rest of the clip as the former governor goes on to explain why he compares modern political parties to gangs. And, for the next edition of "Piers Morgan Live," watch CNN every night at 9.
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  1. Paddy Clifford

    As a visitor to the US I have been following the government shutdown story with interest but nobody is exploring the possibility that the Speaker of the House of Representatives may well be using this pressure to reduce the power of the Tea Party faction and that he will put the basic budget motion only after the Tea Party has been roasted enough not to cause a problem in the future. In my view the Speaker is deliberatly choosing the best time to play his cards.

    October 2, 2013 at 5:48 pm | Report abuse | Reply
  2. Patricia Merkle

    Turned out good re Congress to lose pay. But, congress should have no power to shut down government, or to cause sequester. Maybe in 1776; but not today. Large government involvement in so many areas, and such a large population to serve, not at all right. So we need a new law to mitigate this from happening again, arbitration may also be of help; but by people not involved with politics. Need to have a conversation with people with knowledge of government structure to protect the interests of the American people from especially a congress like this do nothing one in which the President has had to deal, and has lost patience with, and this snobbery.

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  3. Shut It All Down!

    Why should Congress only shut down part of the Government. Shut down the entire FAA to effect business CEO's from air travel. Shut down the entire State Department to prevent any internal travel by business CEO's. Shut down the entire Justice department to stop all legal actions by corporations and CEO's. Shut down the entire SEC and require the NYSE and NASDAQ be closed. If the large corporations and business cannot travel or trade, the results will be felt by all of the American peoples.

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    HOW IS POSIBLE TO SPEND SO MUCH MONEY IN SPACE BUT WE CAN'T DO IT HERE IN EARTH WHERE SO MANY PEOPLE NEED IT!! LO PODEMOS GASTAR TODO IN THE MOON AND SPACE PERO NO LO PODEMOS USAR PARA TANTA GENTE QUE NECESITA PLAN MEDICO,ESTO ES UN ACTO DE ORGULLO Y DES -HUMANO PARA EL PUBLICO ESTADOUNIDENSE.

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    im a single mom and I have an autistic son I have a part time job that is like 20 hours a week and my son gets ssi disability that's all we have to live on this is ridiculous, are they going to pay our bills? let us live with them? they need to do something fast put there differences aside and get it in gear this is messing with to many people and our everyday lives

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