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Bill Maher on FOX News: "Facts never get in the way of their talking points"
Coming up on Friday evening, comedian Bill Maher joins Piers Morgan in studio for a face to face interview that will prove equal parts entertaining and insightful.
The host of HBO's "Real Time with Bill Maher," the 57-year-old political commentator and comedian offers his perspective on the state of television programs, specifically cable news, of which he says allows for narrow-minded, and entirely biased thinking:
"When we didn't use to have these kind of places where you could retreat to your ghettoization of thinking, public discourse was the better for it because you had to hear a conflicting idea. Now you don't," he says, before referencing the network on which he was appearing in his criticism. "CNN suffers for that to a degree because it tries to play it down the middle, and people generally want to hear what they already believe in."
A well-known Democrat who supports the legalization of marijuana and same-sex marriage, Maher's real issue is with the hyper-conservative FOX News network, which he suggests isn't based in truth:
"Facts never get in the way of their talking points. And so for people who only listen to FOX News, they can wake up with Matt Drudge and have lunch with Rush Limbaugh and go to bed with Bill O'Reilly," he explains, listing a trio of powerful Republican voices. "That's all they're going to know, is what they hear there. And very often these people do not care what the truth is."
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War! War! Thank God! I need by defense job back! War war war, oh happy day! I can go back to the ball bearing factory and make tons and tons and tons of ball bearings to be thrown in a burn pit in a deserted area far from the cameras!
Have you considered that Obama does not care whether the ACA works or not? Obama is a Community Organizer. He is a campaigner. He jumps from issue to issue. He has never organized or run anything in his life. He pays no attention to the details. The web site will be fixed by Dec 1 because they will define it as fixed. Sebellius said the web site has never been down. It just runs very very slowly. After Dec 1 they will not admit it is down. The message will be "We are seeing heavy traffic, please come back later". Problem solved.
The next issue coming is the doctors who will not accept Medicare and the hospitals that will not accept Medicare patients because the reimbursement rates are too low.
It is already happening in New Hampshire. Obama's answer will be to shop around. You just might have to drive 100 miles to see a doctor, but he will not be your current doctor.
Did you just say the President is a community organizer and then say he has never organized anything in his life in the next sentence? Have you even bothered to ever look up what he actually did as a community organizer in Chicago? He was the Director of the Developing Communities Project, a Christian church based organization. In three years he more than tripled the budget, he helped set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization in Altgeld Gardens. That's right, he helped people who needed it, and even better, he helped people to help themselves. What is sad is that this is something he is demonized for. There are no shortage of issues to criticize our President for (drones, defense spending, the NSA debacle, etc) but if you are a person of decency or conscience, you would not criticize his accomplishments as a community organizer.
Len, I noticed you skipped right over Maher's criticism of Fox brainwashing so you could distract from the issue with another cheapshot at Obama. I'll take your silence on the issue at hand as an acknowledgment then that Fox is nothing more than a right wing talking point factory.
This is a Fox News Shill posting with all the Fox talking points:
1) Disparaging remarks about Barack Obama's background and experience
2) Glttering generalities about failure of ObamaCare or the Democrats
3) Selective facts
4) No mention of recent Republican disasters like the Republican shutdown costing $26 BILLION or John Boehner's inability to mediate.
5) Name calling
6) End of Days jargon; disaster, impending doom, upcoming armageddon because of ObamaCare.
My God, man. Put your big girl panties on and solve problems using logic, reasoning, ingenuity and the law. And please, please stop whining like a helpless Republican.
oh, Jim, thanks for articulating so well what I could not, though I had a strong reaction to the original post. Great points, great post.
I'd like to give you an internet award for that extremely accurate response.
This is a MSNBC News Shill posting with all the MSNBC talking points:
1) Disparaging remarks about anyone who questions Barack Obama's background and experience
2) Glttering generalities about Republicans hating the poor and being racist.
3) Selective facts
4) No mention of recent Democrat disasters like refusing to negotiate with Republicans, costing $26 BILLION solely because of disrespect to Republicans and the judicial process, or President Obama's inability to mediate.
5) Name calling
6) End of the American dream jargon; disaster, impending doom, upcoming armageddon because of greedy rich people.
My God, man. Put your big girl panties on and solve problems using logic, reasoning, ingenuity and the law. And please, please stop preaching like a smug mr. know it all liberal.
I'd like to give Chloe an internet award for an extremely accurate response as well. Well said!
How to identify a Fox News shill posting:
1) Unreasonable
2) Namecalling
3) Bandwagoning
4) Ranting, Desperate
5) Exclamation Points
6) Intense Anger
7) No mention of Republican missteps
8) Sense of Extreme Urgency
9 ) Doom and gloom
10) Never a solution
Oh, and one more characteristic of Fox News Shill responses. They'll take whatever reasonable, astute observation and parrot it back in reverse. Even if it doesn't make sense. They'll also reducto ad absurdem the argument to the point of being ludicrous.
REASONABLE: John Boehner clearly lacked mediation skills.
UNREASONABLE REPUBLICAN RESPONSE: Obama lacked mediation skills. (?)
REASONABLE: The Republican Shutdown cost $26 Billion in lost business and expenses
UNREASONABLE: Obamacare will cost billions, too. (?)
REASONABLE: Clearly Tea Party Republicans are representing health care special interersts.
UNREASONABLE: President Obama's wife went to college for a time with an employee of one of the ObamaCare website contractors. (?)
REASONABLE: Rand Paul plagiarized speeches, as evidenced by Wikipedia.
UNREASONABLE: I challenge you to a duel. (?)
REASONABLE: Obama clearly meant to say "Your coverage cannot be taken away." Not "Your plan cannot be taken away."
UNREASONABLE: Obama lies about everything.
REASONABLE: News sources uncovered Fox News has hired shills to post on these boards in an attempt to sway public opinion.
UNREASONBALE: MSNBC has hired shills to post on these boards. See, here are some that we wrote as proof.
Facts never get in the way of "Burn Face" Maher either. Lose the makeup, you are beginning to look like Kerry.
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Maher is for Obamacare, we will see how much of a success that is lol, he is against Hunters, and honest and ethical people. He supports a party that is full of corruption and never takes blame for their mistakes. So far the Liberal Party has put more people on welfare and food stamps than any other party and Obama has ballooned the national debt more than the previous 42 presidents combined. His hatred for hunters confirms to me he has a peanut for a brain.
I couldn't care less about hunting. I giant waste of time.
We have a Liberal Party in this country? That's news to me.
We have a Right-of-Center party (Democrats) and the Loony Bin Party (Republicans)
Sorry Mike – YOU ARE WRONG! Corporations that pay poverty wages and no benefits are the ones who put people on food stamps, welfare and medicaid. We taxpayers are subsidizing non-tax paying, ultra profitable mega corporations that USE FEDERAL AND STATE WELFARE PROGRAMS to avoid paying the people they employ decent wages! Corporate WELFARE needs to be STOPPED!
Errol, your statement contains facts ..... most Republicans have no concept of facts !!
Really Mike?
Did you hear him on fact checking. Please look up the facts before commenting. The last 42 presidents, I am Shaking my head LOOK AT THE NUMBERS
I just set my DVR so it would record my fav personality...BILL MAHER! They are talking about a nut job in Jersey with a gun...they better be playing Bill Mahers interview! I don't care about a nut job where everyone will be saying...."Guns don't kill people " when his gun kills people! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lets not forget who caused this deficit to begin with which was Bush. Not to mention the fact that the Republican party said that the Iraq war would pay for itself. Now look where were at.
It's funny how PEOPLE FROM THE RED STATES COMPLAIN SOOOOOOOOO MUCH ABOUT WELFARE BUT THOSE ARE THE STATES TYAT RECEIVE THE MOST WELFARE?!?!?
Mike, I'm sorry but your statement about Obama raising the Federal debt since being in office more than the past 42 presidents combined is exactly the kind of reckless, fact less rhetoric that discredits anything you might say or point you try to make. The reality is that aside from all the things this President has not been able to "live up to" he has indeed not only stopped the rapid growth of our national debt that was handed to him from the previous administration, he has started it's decline. See here: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/23833296/us-budget-deficit-down-to-680b-lowest-in-5-years. Given the fact that he was handed the worst economy since the great depression and has had to "deal" with the most obstructionist house of representatives ever to have populated those seats, I'd say Obama has done a pretty good job when it comes to turning the economy around. The housing industry is rebounding, stock markets have hit all time high records again, unemployment, while not yet where it should be, has quit going up like it was doing when Obama was elected, and has even gotten a little better in some respects. President Obama is not the almighty savior that some like to pass him off as. He has indeed not been able to do all the things that he campaigned on for one reason or another. But let's give him credit where credit is due using facts and stop with the down right lies...
I watch Maher every week and I have never heard him say anything about hunting, ever.
It never fails to make me snort-laugh when I read the right wing knee-jerk responses on comment boards. Never, ever constructive. Always just "Obama is a failure!" "Obama is a Kenyan!" "Obama is the racist!". The most predictably ignorant and pompously righteous responses. Funny part is, they think everyone is trying to make them look bad, when they need NO help in that. They are their own worst enemy.
Its interesting that the author would call FOX new networks "hyper conservative" which obviously indicates the direction he/she feels his/her network exists in. No journalistic bias here huh? When there were only 3 networks, you often didnt hear but one view point anyway, so his point is moot. Today you have more choices, and that allows for more information to be disseminated than ever before. Mr. Mahers pure love of liberal propaganda and ignorance is amazingly telling of how short sighted his own view points are.
Wrong. What it requires is opinion and bias, no matter your political leanings. Trouble is, being controversial on the right simply requires you to be divisive and self centered. To be controversial on the left means that you are required to explain you facts, because as we all know, facts are always opinion.
Fox News will be charged with war crimes if their mis-information causes violence on a large scale. Just sayin. Happened in Rwanda. You think radio and TV is a joke? The FCC is on it, bltches.
Obama's shining achievement is Obama care, but do u only do two things in 8 years like bush did, which was war and no child left be hide, neither one did any good. Welfare is necessary unless you think the minimum wage should be $15 an hour. I think Obama is a cowered for not reforming the pot laws I had a friend shot by some one who was high on coke and wanted his pot thinking they can't report it, he died it was a single gin shot from a .23. But he's better than some multimillionaire who believes god is an actual person who live on another planet, Hubble disagrees. We needed to repel don't ask don't tell, we need immigration reform, and gun reform. Just look at European country's they don't have the mass shooting's every three months. I have a gun but the clip is only four shots and if I don't hit the deer with that then its my problem. If you think I live in the land of liberals your wrong am from sweet home Alabama where law makers are races enough to have an immigration law like Arizona's . Our Hispanic population is 3.5% 2nd lowest in the U.S. remembered Birmingham in the civil rights movement. If you think anything I said is not true come visit Florence Alabama its the Duff in the phone book. Just don't bomb my house if u disagree. ROLL TIDE I'LL SEE THE 23RD AT BYRAN DENNY STADIUM "BILL MEHER IS A VERY SMART MAN AND HAS TOO TALK DOWN TOO MOST PEOPLE
Repubilcan Shutdown – $26 billion
Obamacare Website – $380 million.
Thank you Jim Rome for telling it like it is.
Isn't MAHER the same brilliant expert that said a year ago that the Tea Party was finished? REALLY NOW. Seems the Tea Party shut your entire liberal party down. Good for them.
The tea party didn't shut down the liberal party, they shut down the country and the economy. That's like choking yourself because you have heartburn.
Ummm....i don't know if you're paying attention, but the tea party numbers are dwindling at record pace. And, "Liberal" party? What party are you referring to? The Democrats (including Obama) are almost as conservative as late 70's Republicans, while Republicans are borderline McCarthy era iron fisted, and the Teaparty...well, they're just off the rails. That's why the Republicans are trying to disown them.
The Tea Party shut themselves down. Geez, come out from under that rock once in a while.
Bill Maher is such a d*uchebag. He's such a partisan hack that he never makes fun of democrats. HBO (and CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, as well as the big 3 networks) should be forced to run Republican political ads to balance out the partisanship on that network. I really hate smarmy "comedians" who only make fun of Repblicans. David Letterman falls into that camp too. At least Jay Leno makes fun of both (he finally came to his senses).
What are you yapping on about? FOX doesn't "have to" have a liberal perspective and chooses not to, despite their "fair and balanced" BS motto. Maher absolutely takes his shots on the Democrats and usually has a conservative on his panel. Much more diverse opinions expressed in 1 hour of his show than in the history of FOX News
Bill Maher definitely favors the liberal side. But to say he's never insulted or taken a cheap shot at democrats isnt true. He points out the stupidity from both parties all the time. But the conservative side makes its pretty easy for him. You have crazies like Rush Limbaugh, who is a utterly ruthless against those whose lifestyles he disagrees with and others such as Ann Coulter who makes Bill O'Reilly seem like a limp fish.
Seriously? Most of the ridiculous hubris and character flaws can be found in the Republican party. That's why comedians are attracted to Republicans– it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
Rand Paul was found plagiarizing from Wikipedia.com. In fact he gets a lot of things online. He gets his speeches from Wikipedia, his books from Amazon, and his hair from Walmart.com.
If you were to watch Maher's show last Friday, the first topic he brought up on the panel is that Obama lied. So you entire premise is absolutely false.
@Mike Teall..Yup, Maher hates hunters and hunting but he shoves down his Matzo hole big juicy cuts of flesh butchered from animals kept in cruel captivity and fattened up just to him. He also has a NYC hand gun carry permit but lived in a exclusive high rise in Manhatten. This place has zero percent possibility of armed robbery... yet he feels a need to own a gun. So...who is the gun for.....Trayvon types ?
LOKI: Your reasoning is so lame: John Lennon lived in a closed building, but he still got shot to death by unhinged guy on the pavement outside his NYC building. While the NRA backs no sensible gun control laws that prevents inappropriate people from gun ownership, coupled with the fact that the NRA block banning Assault type weapons and large magazines & gunclips, then I guess Bill just wants to feel safer by having his own gun with a legal gun permit.
Ugh...The point of this article is that if you only watch Fox News or if you only watch MSNBC (which would have made Maher's point more valid if he used both examples) then you will never truly be informed because you're only hearing one extremely biased side. The preceding comments are pretty good examples of this.
Chris, you hit the nail on the head. Bill openly talks about his gun ownership on his show, and he does take alot of shots at democrats when they deserve it. The point is MSNBC & FOX News are not news at all. As to Marcus, simply stating the facts in a dry monotone voice may not grab attention, but it is what we need. We need newspeople/journalist that we couldn't tell you how they voted if we tried. Thats how journalism is done.
To Mckinley, I agree with you somewhat. I understand that journalism should be unbiased. The point I was attempting to make is that the days of sitting behind the desk and relaying the news to the public seem to have passed us by. The majority of people don't watch or read the news in that way very much. In my opinion, the popularity of Fox News and MSNBC rests on the shoulders of the information age we've been in for the last few decades. Americans (generally speaking) don't just want someone to tell them what happened today, they want analysis, opinion and maybe a little comedy thrown in too. CNN does that too and was the first that I can remember to do so. Remember Crossfire on CNN? Personally I prefer the way things are now where we have choices. I can watch Fox News for a little while, flip over to MSNBC, check out what CNN has to say and form my own analysis. It is my opinion that we're all more informed because of it.
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A-frickin'-MEN to this!
come on! everyone is biased in some way!
From all the comments I read, the number 1 item which stands out is the fact Fox is not news, but rather entertainment and propaganda presented in a warped and twisted manner. Fox Propaganda should be referred to as such and not inclusive of the word "News". Media news is when events are reported in an unbiased manner, taking no sides with any party. This is not the case with Fox Propaganda. If one is in search of lies, innuendo and witnessing a spin of fantasy to media reporting, then Fox Propaganda is your boy.
So Chris Matthews is unbiased?
I know Maher smokes a lot of weed...But I didn't realize it make him insane...MSNBC doesn't lie or distort the truth?!!? I can rattle off examples of them not telling the truth off the top of my head! You ask someone to give an example of when Fox News knowingly, deceptively lied they can NEVER give you an example....And if by chance they say something wrong they Correct it (I've seen them do it)...
BTW, MSNBC has Mathews, Maddow, Sharpton, Ed, Lawrence, Mellisa Harris, Baldwin and more....All UNBELIEVABLY, INSANELY LIBERAL...Fox news has who? Oreilly, not a hyper partisan, leans right and Hannity....Both of which Btw have liberals on their programs every day...You are a Moron to the nth degree
I don't agree that Fox is hyper-conservative and I also don't believe that CNN and MSNBC are hyper-liberal. I think it's just a sign of the times we live in today. Simply stating the facts in a dry monotone fashion is not going to grab attention. I think there are other more biased news analysts than O'Reilly but they sometimes resonate with the moderates and liberals so it's not as noticeable. For a while there were no 24 hour news networks so we just had to swallow what CBS, NBC and ABC threw on our plates, so I'm grateful that we have competing news programs. What we need to do is start treating every ounce of news as questionable and probably untrue.
Haha, love these "liberal haters" that are leaving comments on CNN.COM. Ah the irony. You guys are right: hunting, the tea party, shutting down the government and not doing the job you are elected to do, and cutting food stamps is what's going to save the country. Do you so called conservatives (who obviously don't pay attention to the defense spending you support) not even believe in math and numbers anymore? The average person on food stamps gets $133 a month (really $133 a month is "dependent"?). 76% of households that use food stamps include elderly and disabled. Meanwhile corporations that cut benefits and pay people so little that they, yep, have to sign up for food stamps, are given billions in tax breaks, hold trillions in taxable income in offshore accounts. Ahahahaha. Idiots. The worst part is that you won't even read all of this before you are convinced that these numbers must be "liberal propaganda" when in fact they are reported FACTS that are PUBLIC RECORD, but you are never going to actually try and find them on your own, you are never going to search for the truth yourself. It is ironic that our President is so demonized, yet falls right in line with much of the "Republican" thinking of the past 10-12 years. He has never cut defense spending, he is continuing your precious military industrial complex. If you really knew anything about Obamacare, you would know that it is actually the Affordable Health Care Act, and is a watered down shell of the idea it used to be, so utterly compromised that it will never help the way it was intended to and continue to fatten the pockets of private insurance companies. You get so worked up by the divisiveness of your candidates, suckering you into an endless 24 hr election cycle, angering you with issues such as gun rights, abortion, and marriage equality, things that have absolutely nothing to do with the actual problems our country faces, just so they can continue to be elected and not do the job they were elected to do and make you the ultimate sucker. But hey, keep on hatin' and see where it gets you. The people who claim to be the most Patriotic of us all will be the undoing of it all.
Bill AMEN!! and let's not forget Education has suffered during this and no one blinks an eye about it
Agreed Sean. The cutting of education is the surest long term investment to a failed economy and failed infrastructure. Unfortunately, there are less and less people smart enough to know that, therefore even less people with the power to change it.
Thank you Bill and Sean for temporarily renewing my faith in human beings. It makes me really sad and scared to think that people actually believe what they hear on Fox News. At least I know that two people out there knows what the hell is actually going!
Great post!!!!!
For the record, I think Democrats and the GOP are both dead wrong on many things. I'm a moderate and wouldn't to associate myself with either of these political tyrants. 🙂 I am a moderate and I try to remain centered. I didn't support Bush, and I don't support Obama. We are all in this together. It's we the people, not we the politically affiliated.
Bill, Great post!!!!!!!!!!!! we need to more informed. Don't wait for someone to report it. Look it up, or listen to alternative news sources, that have no stupid basis, and will tell like it is. I will here a news segment, and see the exact same thing on the news in biased manner a week, to 2 years later.
As a young person sometimes I'll scroll down to the comments sections on articles like these hoping for a frank and intelligent discussion. Mostly, especially on sites like CNN, it's just all sound and fury peppered with racist undertones and out-of-date thinking. Who are you people? Seriously. America is a very sad, stupid place. The 'news-tainment' that passes for actual journalism on the three mainstream media channels definitely has helped. No wonder my more educated friends are getting out as fast as they can.
Recently, it was uncovered that Fox News had hired shills to post comments on boards like these, in an effort to sway public opinion. However, the posters couldn't rationally defend the Republican's shenanigans, and resort to namecalling, glittering generalities and false claims. Once again, a Republican initiative backfired, because it's based on deception, behind-the-scenes corporate agendas, and personal financial gain, just like everything else they do.
After Fox hired these shills to post derogatory remarks about Obama on these boards, something happened. Suddenly, the tone of the republican party took a turn for the worse– everything they said was disparaging, complaining, whining and hopeless. Republicans have no plan. They have no way to fix problems. If they're so good in corporate business, why don't they suggest a fix for the website? Why don't they help? Because Republicans are not working for the people and the greater good of our country, they're working only for their corporate interests.
Brilliant! He is so right!
An idiot (Bill) is criticizing the idiots (Foxnews)
Let us not forget the most important fact. FOX is in the business of making MONEYand since they know that IDIOTS outnumber the rest of us they present a product that grabs their attention and keeps them adicted and coming back for more. This is not so much about political ideology but rather about PROFIT.
Rush Linbaugh had once said on his radio show over 20years ago, "if there was money in being a liberal radio talk show host I'd be a liberal".
FOX, Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Rielly et al give their consumer exactly what they want to hear which ensures their loyalty which in turn drives up their viewer/listenership which in turn drives up the cost of sponsorship and profits.
Pity the poor white working class non college educated FOX devotee who has too many wives and kids, a high car payment for his gas guzzling Pickup truck and a bleak future for him and his family. How dare he support Unions, Universal Healhcare, Public Education, Clear Air/Water, Strict Gun Laws, Higher taxes for the upper 1%, Investments in Infrastructure, Reduction in Military Spending, Corporate Welfare, Raising the Minimum Wage...... These are all UNAMERCIAN, UNPATRIOTIC positions which lead to SOCAILISM. Cover your ears and close your eyes and chant USA, USA and everything will be OK.
Jim A: Excellent post!!! Talk about cutting one's nose off to spite their face!!! You hit the nail on the head!! Good for you!!
So painfully true. It's as if the corprorate lobbies have taken control of our representatives in exchange for campaign contributions. It's corruption most foul. With the Republican shutdown shltstorm, we got just a taste of what bribed senators can do. They're not representing the people, they're representing corporations!
And MSNBC is unbiased?
The difference is that MSNBC doesn't falsify and mislead to incite anarchy.
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Bill,
Fox viewers also watch MSNBC so how about making that a talking point.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/11/pew-tv-news-cable-fox-news-msnbc_n_4085269.html
Tea Party republicans have been bribed by corporations! Tea Party republicans don't represent their states, they represent corporations in their state! They're not statesmen, they're bribed pawns working in the interest of corporations! This is corruption, people!
I doubt Maher watches Fox News … and I know people who include Fox News in their sources of information don't 'only watch Fox News…." I watch them all, including CBS, CBS local-news, all the Sunday talk shows, CNN, MSNBC, BBC, listen to NPR, read local newspaper, peruse AOL and the Huffpost … and I conclude Fox is as "fair and balanced" as it gets. They all have their organizational agendas. Without Fox News, however, we would be back to a very one-sided agenda. Therefore, Fox News is an essential part of our democracy.
Bill maher any day over Fox. All liars ...bullish....twisting of words to suit their needs. Shameful cast. Nough said.
How in the hell did these so called Tea Partiers get to have a say in anything. They were not elected, they simply chose to folllow the elephants around. This really makes me angry they even get mentioned in what is going on. Our country is headed towards another war between the parties that are trying to run it. People hate other people when they do not agree with how they think. This all needs to stop and all the Tea Party members need to go to Boston and jump in the water. Hopefully most of them cannot swim.
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